Join Dave and Len as they unpack the week’s biggest stories: the confusion and apology around Pastor Jamal Bryant and the Target boycott, Alabama’s controversial commutation of a death sentence, and highlights and reactions from the Oscars.
They also touch on local sports, surprising weather swings, Oprah’s Paris fashion moment, rising young athletes, and whether people still go to movie theaters — a brisk, opinionated round-up of news and trends.
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00:01:27 --> 00:01:31 I'm hanging out with my partner, Mr. Leonard Young. What's going on, sir? Hey, Dave.
00:01:31 --> 00:01:35 Everything is good. This is Leonard Young, CEO of National Black Guide,
00:01:36 --> 00:01:41 DelawareBlack.com, Black Media Specialist, all-around good guy. How goes it, Dave?
00:01:42 --> 00:01:45 Man, it's gone. It's gone. I think I fooled around.
00:01:45 --> 00:01:48 Got a little bit of head cold fooling around with all this different weather
00:01:48 --> 00:01:50 we've been having. Uh-uh.
00:01:51 --> 00:01:57 That ain't good. Yeah, I know. It's warm one moment, and then it's cold again.
00:01:58 --> 00:02:01 I know they said it's supposed to be cold again towards the end of the week.
00:02:02 --> 00:02:06 And it's, what, this week's the first day of spring is coming, right?
00:02:07 --> 00:02:09 I think the 20th. Yeah, I guess next week. 20th is the first.
00:02:10 --> 00:02:13 Oh, yeah, next week. Okay. Hold on, is it the 20th or the 21st?
00:02:13 --> 00:02:14 No, the 20th. It's the 20th.
00:02:14 --> 00:02:17 You sure? I thought it was the 21st. I think it's the 20th.
00:02:18 --> 00:02:20 You can check. You can check. Let's see who's right.
00:02:21 --> 00:02:28 Yep. Friday the 20th. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, the 20th. So that'll be the first day of spring.
00:02:29 --> 00:02:34 Man, you know, these seasons, it's the weirdest how these seasons change anymore.
00:02:34 --> 00:02:35 Right. You know, you don't know.
00:02:36 --> 00:02:39 You know, they run right into each other. You don't know what season you're in anymore.
00:02:39 --> 00:02:45 It used to be, we thought we were in spring. What, last week? You know. I know.
00:02:46 --> 00:02:49 Done switched up on. Yeah, I know. But then winter said, oh,
00:02:49 --> 00:02:51 no, it ain't spring yet. It ain't spring yet.
00:02:52 --> 00:02:55 And it's funny because, I mean, of course, we got some crazy weather coming.
00:02:55 --> 00:02:59 But I heard something on the radio today talking about, how did he say?
00:02:59 --> 00:03:03 He said something similar to like another cold front is coming.
00:03:03 --> 00:03:07 I'm like, okay, you know, we're in the middle of March.
00:03:08 --> 00:03:12 Like there shouldn't be too many winter cold fronts coming, which is weird.
00:03:13 --> 00:03:18 Yeah. Well, it's just like we had that 80 degree day last week.
00:03:18 --> 00:03:19 Oh, yeah. That was real nice.
00:03:20 --> 00:03:23 And then the next day it snowed. Right.
00:03:24 --> 00:03:29 I mean, I don't think I ever remember seeing that before.
00:03:31 --> 00:03:34 I mean, and it wasn't little flurries. I mean, it was coming down pretty good.
00:03:34 --> 00:03:38 Yeah. I mean, yeah. Well, you know, it's so funny. I kept on waiting for it
00:03:38 --> 00:03:43 to stick and add up, which it didn't. But, I mean, it was coming down really good.
00:03:44 --> 00:03:46 Yeah, it was too wet. It was too wet to stick.
00:03:47 --> 00:03:52 But it was just strange because, you know, people was walking around in shorts
00:03:52 --> 00:03:54 and in T-shirts the day before, you know.
00:03:55 --> 00:04:01 But it just tells you a lot about the crazy world we're in right now.
00:04:02 --> 00:04:06 And, you know, a lot of people will say it's a sign of the times.
00:04:06 --> 00:04:13 It's a lot going on out there right now. And, you know, we just have to be mindful
00:04:13 --> 00:04:14 of everything that's happening.
00:04:15 --> 00:04:24 We have to also keep in mind those people who are involved in the war out there and dealing with that.
00:04:24 --> 00:04:30 You know, hopefully you don't have too many of our service people to go down
00:04:30 --> 00:04:33 or get hurt during this war.
00:04:33 --> 00:04:40 And, you know, try to bring everybody, you know, try to bring as many home as safely as possible.
00:04:40 --> 00:04:45 You know, that's the last thing we want to be in is a war at this time.
00:04:45 --> 00:04:53 So, so other than that, I know you and I was just talking before we got on the podcast.
00:04:53 --> 00:04:57 I know last week you were talking about your, your daughter and her team,
00:04:57 --> 00:05:00 her basketball team going into the state.
00:05:00 --> 00:05:03 Well, that was the semifinals when we talked then, right? And then they made
00:05:03 --> 00:05:06 it to the finals, right? Yep. Yep. They made it to the finals.
00:05:06 --> 00:05:11 Unfortunately, they lost to a Howard high school, but they, I mean,
00:05:11 --> 00:05:12 they, they, they had a great season.
00:05:13 --> 00:05:20 And, I mean, Howard was a great team, and, you know, let's say you didn't know
00:05:20 --> 00:05:26 what the score was, but you saw them play. You know, I'll say Howard hustled all four quarters.
00:05:28 --> 00:05:34 So, hats off to him. To the Wildcats. Howard Wildcats. Yeah.
00:05:35 --> 00:05:37 I remember St. George's for a long
00:05:37 --> 00:05:41 time was a doormat for a long time with basketball and stuff like that.
00:05:41 --> 00:05:44 So it's good to see them on the come up. Yeah.
00:05:45 --> 00:05:48 So. Now, Dave, I'm not sure what next year is going to look like because.
00:05:49 --> 00:05:50 They're graduating on a lot of kids.
00:05:51 --> 00:05:54 Well, I know that they're star players. So their star player on St.
00:05:55 --> 00:06:00 George's, he was the Gatorade player of the year going into this year. Yeah. So he was.
00:06:01 --> 00:06:08 So he's graduating. I'm not. What's his name? Name is Joshua Obiora.
00:06:09 --> 00:06:10 Okay. Yeah.
00:06:11 --> 00:06:13 All right. Has he picked out of school yet already?
00:06:14 --> 00:06:17 I don't know. I was Googling today, and it doesn't look like he did.
00:06:17 --> 00:06:22 Back last year, it looked like he had a picture with Dell State gear on.
00:06:22 --> 00:06:25 But the caption said, hashtag not committed.
00:06:26 --> 00:06:30 So, you know, I'm sure it was probably just a visit, but I don't know where he's going.
00:06:31 --> 00:06:35 I know if Stan Witterman likes him enough, he'll get him down.
00:06:36 --> 00:06:42 Yeah, so I was just reading the other day. I guess a lot of these kids are going to make decisions.
00:06:42 --> 00:06:47 I was just reading the other day that Kevin Hart's son just committed to Tennessee.
00:06:48 --> 00:06:53 He's for track and field. Apparently, this boy is really good at track and field. Oh, really?
00:06:54 --> 00:06:57 Yeah, he just said his personal experience.
00:06:58 --> 00:07:07 His personal best in in 100 i think he was he i think i read he ran relay he's on the relay.
00:07:09 --> 00:07:15 Excuse me i think he runs the 200 too so i mean but he apparently he got a full
00:07:15 --> 00:07:19 ride down in tennessee and tennessee has you know a very nice track squad i
00:07:19 --> 00:07:21 watch a lot of the college track when it's on.
00:07:23 --> 00:07:25 You know, they got a good squad down there.
00:07:27 --> 00:07:32 But yeah, apparently he announced over the weekend that's where he was going. Oh, okay.
00:07:34 --> 00:07:39 Is he living in LA? I wonder where he's... Is he living with the mom?
00:07:40 --> 00:07:45 I think he was with... Because I think that was with his... That's Torrey Hart's
00:07:45 --> 00:07:47 son, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah.
00:07:49 --> 00:07:50 Yeah. but.
00:07:52 --> 00:07:55 That's good. That's good, though, that, you know, I didn't even know he had
00:07:55 --> 00:07:56 a son that was doing it like that.
00:07:57 --> 00:08:00 So, you know, but apparently he's doing it big.
00:08:00 --> 00:08:06 So he's the young, these young guys, you know, because there's a lot of a lot
00:08:06 --> 00:08:11 of parents now whose kids are coming up and doing big things or their grandkids or whatever.
00:08:11 --> 00:08:14 Well, just like you, man, your son following in your footsteps,
00:08:14 --> 00:08:20 you know, there you go, you know, but they even going back to track and field.
00:08:20 --> 00:08:26 I was watching, I was looking at social media over the weekend and there was
00:08:26 --> 00:08:32 a high school runner, black guy in Texas, high school, a high schooler.
00:08:33 --> 00:08:38 And he went a nine point nine something in the 100 meters.
00:08:38 --> 00:08:43 And I'm like, man, like, you know, yeah, yeah, he broke 10.
00:08:44 --> 00:08:47 Now, now I don't remember. It might have been wind assisted.
00:08:47 --> 00:08:52 I don't remember, but, you know, just the fact of going, because,
00:08:52 --> 00:08:55 Dave, you know, some people in the Olympics ain't even going 9-9.
00:08:55 --> 00:09:01 No, I remember years ago, there was a guy, and this might have been before your
00:09:01 --> 00:09:03 time, but his name was Houston McTeer.
00:09:04 --> 00:09:09 And Houston McTeer was high school sensation.
00:09:09 --> 00:09:13 He ran under 10. He ran like a 9.
00:09:14 --> 00:09:23 I want to say a 9.92 or a 9.93, and at that time it was unheard of. That dude was fast.
00:09:24 --> 00:09:28 He ended up, he competed in a couple Olympics. He just never,
00:09:28 --> 00:09:33 when he got to the pro circuit, I mean, he did all right, But there was so many
00:09:33 --> 00:09:36 guys who were just as fast as he was back then.
00:09:36 --> 00:09:41 He never really cracked it because he came up doing Carl Lewis's time too. Okay.
00:09:42 --> 00:09:46 You know, and him and Carl Lewis, he couldn't be called.
00:09:46 --> 00:09:51 I think he beat Carl Lewis once, but he couldn't, you know, he couldn't do it consistently. Yeah.
00:09:52 --> 00:09:56 But Houston material was fast. I'll never forget when they said that boy ran under a 10.
00:09:57 --> 00:10:02 That was news all over, you know, because you just didn't hear that back then.
00:10:02 --> 00:10:08 A kid running like that, you know, so, yeah, yep, so, all right,
00:10:08 --> 00:10:13 well, I guess we got a couple things to talk about other than what we've been
00:10:13 --> 00:10:15 talking about so far, so let's get to it.
00:10:17 --> 00:10:20 I kind of heard a little bit about this story this morning, you know,
00:10:21 --> 00:10:26 this guy does love staying in the news, man, I guess you gotta know how to be
00:10:26 --> 00:10:31 relevant in order to be relevant, if you know what I mean, so, Pastor Jamal Bryant.
00:10:32 --> 00:10:40 Apologizes for confusion surrounding his target staff and continued boycott from other leaders.
00:10:42 --> 00:10:45 Keep in mind, you know, the whole Target thing was thing, you know,
00:10:45 --> 00:10:49 about boycotting and all that was started by a black woman.
00:10:49 --> 00:10:56 You remember that, right? Right. Yeah. So Pastor Jamal Bryan caused a firestorm
00:10:56 --> 00:11:00 earlier this week when he announced that the end of the Target Fest,
00:11:01 --> 00:11:06 which originally was set to run through Lent this year.
00:11:06 --> 00:11:11 No, last year. I'm sorry. Last year. But extended into a year-long fest.
00:11:12 --> 00:11:18 Many believe that Bryant's announcement marked the formal end of the overarching
00:11:18 --> 00:11:22 Target boycott, which began last February,
00:11:23 --> 00:11:28 leading some organizers to speak out against Bryant and insist that the national
00:11:28 --> 00:11:29 boycott was still going on.
00:11:30 --> 00:11:36 Now, Bryant is apologizing while also stating he hasn't received any money from
00:11:36 --> 00:11:39 Target or been compensated to end the fest.
00:11:40 --> 00:11:45 During the latest episode of his Let's Be Clear podcast, which was the 100th
00:11:45 --> 00:11:50 recording of the show, the latter pastor clarified comments he made regarding
00:11:50 --> 00:11:54 the end of the Target Fest and how he was not the leader and said.
00:11:56 --> 00:12:02 Of the said movement, but black women such as Nina Turner, Tameka Mallory, and Dr.
00:12:03 --> 00:12:08 Nakeema Levy-Armstrong were the leaders.
00:12:08 --> 00:12:12 Today was supposed to be a hallmark celebration, Ryan began.
00:12:12 --> 00:12:17 But given the most recent events that were to have taken place this week,
00:12:18 --> 00:12:21 we're having to make a hard pivot.
00:12:21 --> 00:12:26 He later added around the six-minute mark, I wanted you to know that I've heard
00:12:26 --> 00:12:32 your empathetic cry that it wasn't just about those four,
00:12:32 --> 00:12:38 but Target in the community's estimation was a prime candidate for cancellation,
00:12:39 --> 00:12:42 saying no matter what happened, you're not going back.
00:12:42 --> 00:12:45 I was reading from a different sheet of music.
00:12:45 --> 00:12:53 I made assumptions that were not true, and I wanted to apologize to you for
00:12:53 --> 00:12:58 being a leader that was out of touch with what it is that the community wanted
00:12:58 --> 00:13:03 and sensed what it is that the community were demanding.
00:13:04 --> 00:13:09 In their own statements, the founders of the Target boycott said nothing had
00:13:09 --> 00:13:14 changed in their decision and not to return to the store.
00:13:14 --> 00:13:18 Let's be clear, the Target boycott is not over.
00:13:18 --> 00:13:23 This is grassroots movement led by communities demanding corporate accountability,
00:13:23 --> 00:13:31 and we will not stop until Target reverses its retreat from diversity, equity, and inclusion.
00:13:32 --> 00:13:36 Armstrong, one of the boycott's founders, said, to date, Target has not addressed
00:13:36 --> 00:13:42 the national backlash to the boycott, nor restored DEI policies.
00:13:43 --> 00:13:47 It said during the press conference on Wednesday, Brian spoke about some of
00:13:47 --> 00:13:49 the demands from the FAS,
00:13:49 --> 00:13:59 including honoring a $2 billion pledge to black businesses, depositing $250 million in black banks,
00:14:00 --> 00:14:07 fully restoring DEI commitments, and implementing retail business programs at HBCUs.
00:14:07 --> 00:14:12 All of those demands per brine and other organizers have been met,
00:14:12 --> 00:14:15 save for the $250 million deposit.
00:14:16 --> 00:14:21 Now, that's interesting to me, because I heard that none of the demands were met.
00:14:23 --> 00:14:32 But he's saying all but that $250 million deposit to the Black Bakes was the
00:14:32 --> 00:14:33 only thing that wasn't met.
00:14:33 --> 00:14:38 Huh and why wouldn't that be met if everything else was met,
00:14:40 --> 00:14:43 I don't know, this whole thing with the Target. Now, Target,
00:14:43 --> 00:14:45 of course, obviously took a big hit.
00:14:46 --> 00:14:50 You know, now I still see some more people still going to Target.
00:14:50 --> 00:14:53 When's the last time you've been in a Target game? Unfortunately.
00:14:54 --> 00:14:59 Recently, right? Yeah, I was. I'm rushed.
00:14:59 --> 00:15:03 Folks, you hear my partner broke the line there.
00:15:04 --> 00:15:09 Was that the only time? It was a quick patter.
00:15:10 --> 00:15:19 But no, so prior to maybe mid-February, I don't think I've been there all of
00:15:19 --> 00:15:24 2025 after we kind of got on one accord.
00:15:25 --> 00:15:26 Mm-hmm. Okay.
00:15:28 --> 00:15:31 It wasn't easy. I mean, it wasn't hard for me not to go in there at all.
00:15:31 --> 00:15:37 I haven't been in Target in, gosh, maybe 20 years. Oh, damn.
00:15:38 --> 00:15:41 Okay. Yeah, it's been a long time. So basically, Dave, you said you were boycotting
00:15:41 --> 00:15:45 before the boycott. Yeah, yeah, because I think I told you this before.
00:15:45 --> 00:15:48 I had a bad experience in that store, and I just never.
00:15:48 --> 00:15:51 Hold on, Dave. Was Target even around 20 years ago?
00:15:52 --> 00:15:55 Yes. No, no, no. I'm serious. Yes, yes.
00:15:56 --> 00:16:00 See, you might need me Google again. When did Target come to that?
00:16:00 --> 00:16:09 I remember buying my son's, what was it, Nintendo Cube, I think I got from Target.
00:16:10 --> 00:16:16 That was probably when he was about 10, maybe 9 or 10 years old.
00:16:17 --> 00:16:21 So, Target opened in Delaware 2010.
00:16:23 --> 00:16:31 They all been 2010. Yeah, I'm looking at it right now. Crisis Corner opened 2021, Middletown 2024.
00:16:32 --> 00:16:37 And I'm sure the one in North Wilmington was after Christiana Mall won.
00:16:37 --> 00:16:40 I don't see a... What was that, 16 years ago?
00:16:42 --> 00:16:47 Well, you know what? That might be right. No, no, no, Dave. You said 20, though.
00:16:48 --> 00:16:51 No, no. Okay, no. I'm thinking about my youngest son.
00:16:51 --> 00:16:57 My youngest son is 30. so 16 years ago that would have put him at 14 so okay
00:16:57 --> 00:16:58 all right that makes sense okay,
00:16:59 --> 00:17:02 all right but you know dave if there's nothing if there's
00:17:02 --> 00:17:05 nothing i'm not gonna do i'm gonna hold you accountable okay yeah
00:17:05 --> 00:17:07 that's right okay you got me that time but that's the
00:17:07 --> 00:17:10 last time i was in there was because of something that
00:17:10 --> 00:17:13 happened that with that purchase that day
00:17:13 --> 00:17:17 and i felt like i was being targeted okay
00:17:17 --> 00:17:21 like racially yes okay yeah it
00:17:21 --> 00:17:23 was a profiling type thing and i just didn't like the way i
00:17:23 --> 00:17:27 felt about it so well would they tell uh pastor
00:17:27 --> 00:17:30 jamal bryant you need some of that uh money that's
00:17:30 --> 00:17:35 poured back into the community yeah it must be poured into his pocket because
00:17:35 --> 00:17:39 they said when he when he announced that the fest was over he was in front of
00:17:39 --> 00:17:46 a target at the time so now and that's another thing i hadn't heard them say
00:17:46 --> 00:17:49 fast i just heard them say boycott.
00:17:51 --> 00:17:55 And it's supposedly two different things because the fast had to do with them
00:17:55 --> 00:17:58 stopping at Lent. They were fasting for Lent.
00:17:59 --> 00:18:06 But the boycott was supposed to be something that was going to go on for forever
00:18:06 --> 00:18:09 until they decided that they were going to give them what they wanted,
00:18:09 --> 00:18:11 which they haven't done yet.
00:18:12 --> 00:18:16 And the whole thing was about the whole DEI and all of that.
00:18:16 --> 00:18:19 Anyway, when they started taking everything out of the stores, Right.
00:18:20 --> 00:18:26 So my whole issue with what you just read is Target has not made a statement
00:18:26 --> 00:18:30 like, you know, I feel like Target needs to make some type of public statement.
00:18:31 --> 00:18:35 And I mean, I don't know if it sounds like an apology, but it needs to sound
00:18:35 --> 00:18:36 something like an apology.
00:18:36 --> 00:18:40 You know, I think they're scared. I think they're scared to say something because
00:18:40 --> 00:18:42 they could cause more damage.
00:18:44 --> 00:18:49 And they, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if they have somebody like a Jamal
00:18:49 --> 00:18:52 Bryant or something on their payroll to speak for them.
00:18:54 --> 00:18:59 You know, I mean, Jamal Bryant is saying that he's not getting paid for this.
00:19:00 --> 00:19:05 But for him to jump out there the way he jumped out would be all wrong and everything.
00:19:05 --> 00:19:08 He's probably been talked to by them.
00:19:09 --> 00:19:14 Yeah, yeah. I mean, Dave, the pain may not be immediate. Yep. Mm-hmm.
00:19:15 --> 00:19:20 But, you know, now they hear the backtrack on everything, they might have reneged
00:19:20 --> 00:19:22 on that pay. Yeah, that's not good.
00:19:22 --> 00:19:30 You know, because you're out there trying to be the man and fooling around and
00:19:30 --> 00:19:32 messed up out there, you know?
00:19:32 --> 00:19:35 And the last thing you want to do is get a bunch of women mad at you.
00:19:50 --> 00:19:55 That's a good question. I mean, but even if we think about it and I mean,
00:19:55 --> 00:19:58 I know it's kind of rhetorical because there's no correct answer.
00:19:59 --> 00:20:05 But, you know, it's like we don't have anybody who universally speaks for us.
00:20:05 --> 00:20:11 And I would go and guess in any state, in any city, in any town,
00:20:11 --> 00:20:17 you know, I think you'd be hard-pressed to find someone who speaks for the immediate
00:20:17 --> 00:20:22 people who are around them that the community approves of in masses.
00:20:23 --> 00:20:28 Yeah, I agree with that. Because even when we had the Obamas in office,
00:20:28 --> 00:20:34 they didn't speak for all of us, you know, because there was a lot of us who—,
00:20:35 --> 00:20:40 Unfortunately, a lot of us who didn't believe in a lot of the stuff that they were doing,
00:20:40 --> 00:20:45 you know, and, you know, so if you can't get if you can't get that kind of leadership
00:20:45 --> 00:20:47 to lead you, who can lead you?
00:20:48 --> 00:20:52 I mean, it's like even when Martin Luther King was living in Malcolm X was living,
00:20:52 --> 00:20:56 you know, you had the heat. They had their following. Yeah.
00:20:57 --> 00:21:03 But not everybody agreed with. Right. So it's hard to have somebody who's going
00:21:03 --> 00:21:07 to be the spokesperson for any of us these days.
00:21:07 --> 00:21:10 And it's unfortunate that, I mean,
00:21:10 --> 00:21:17 that's why it's so interesting to see how many of these people kind of like
00:21:17 --> 00:21:24 with bated breath is on every word or every action that the president of the United States does.
00:21:25 --> 00:21:31 You know, because, you know, they feel he's the greatest thing to ever happen.
00:21:31 --> 00:21:37 They were talking about, you saw that they unveiled that statue of President
00:21:37 --> 00:21:41 Obama up in Chicago. Did you see that? No, I did not.
00:21:42 --> 00:21:44 You know, a bronze statue, very nice looking statue, whatever.
00:21:44 --> 00:21:46 They just did it over the weekend.
00:21:46 --> 00:21:50 You know, a lot of great comments that people were making about it and whatever
00:21:50 --> 00:21:54 could always go to the comments section. The comment section is some of the
00:21:54 --> 00:21:58 funniest stuff that you ever read and then some of the grossest stuff you ever read at the same time.
00:21:58 --> 00:22:02 But, you know, you always want to think what people's opinion are.
00:22:04 --> 00:22:09 And one person said, let's see how, excuse me, one person said,
00:22:09 --> 00:22:12 let's see how long it would take before Trump puts his name on that statue.
00:22:14 --> 00:22:20 Well, that's like, I did laugh at the joke Conan O'Brien said when he said.
00:22:20 --> 00:22:25 Oh, that's Oscars? Yeah, where something like little something something,
00:22:25 --> 00:22:27 he's like, yeah, I bet you Trump won't put his name on that.
00:22:27 --> 00:22:34 Oh, yeah, I do remember that. Yeah, yeah, I do remember that. Yeah. So that's funny.
00:22:35 --> 00:22:41 But, you know, I guess we'll see what happens with this whole thing with the Target and, you know.
00:22:41 --> 00:22:48 And one thing before I jump off of this, one thing you have to also pay attention to, Leonard.
00:22:48 --> 00:22:52 Remember when all this started happening, it wasn't just Target that was named.
00:22:52 --> 00:22:54 There were some other stores that were named as well.
00:22:54 --> 00:22:58 You notice how low of a profile they kept, those stores?
00:22:59 --> 00:23:02 You know, yeah, they said, oh, we're going to ride this out.
00:23:02 --> 00:23:06 We're going to watch on the sidelines and we're not going to make any waves
00:23:06 --> 00:23:11 because Walmart, remember Walmart was one of those stores too. Yeah.
00:23:11 --> 00:23:18 But Walmart has still continued to do business, you know, and because they have
00:23:18 --> 00:23:23 not rocked the boat, Target feels that they were going to be able to survive
00:23:23 --> 00:23:24 whether we came in there or not.
00:23:25 --> 00:23:28 And they try to act that way, but they noticed we hit them.
00:23:28 --> 00:23:32 We heard them. We heard them because there are a lot of people,
00:23:32 --> 00:23:35 that shop at Target, but they stopped going in there.
00:23:36 --> 00:23:39 So we'll see what happens with this. We'll see.
00:23:40 --> 00:23:42 All right, moving on to our next story.
00:23:43 --> 00:23:47 Alabama governor commutes death sentence of a man who didn't kill anyone.
00:23:48 --> 00:23:50 This seems to be a common story anymore.
00:23:52 --> 00:23:59 Alabama Governor Kay Ivey commuted on Tuesday the death sentence of child Sonny
00:23:59 --> 00:24:02 Burton to life without parole,
00:24:02 --> 00:24:07 saying his execution, which was set for Thursday, would be unjust.
00:24:08 --> 00:24:15 In 1991, Burton was one of six men involved in a robbery at an auto zone in
00:24:15 --> 00:24:21 Talladega that ended with the murder of a customer, Doug Battle.
00:24:22 --> 00:24:25 Burton didn't pull the trigger in the
00:24:25 --> 00:24:28 killing Doug Battle was brutally
00:24:28 --> 00:24:31 murdered by Derek DeBruce while
00:24:31 --> 00:24:38 shopping in an auto parts store but DeBruce was ultimately sentenced to life
00:24:38 --> 00:24:47 without parole now already I can tell you Burton is black okay that's sure Derek
00:24:47 --> 00:24:49 DeBruce doesn't sound black to me already.
00:24:51 --> 00:24:54 You know just by that statement that i just read you
00:24:54 --> 00:24:58 heard me right right so so
00:24:58 --> 00:25:04 we're going to go back and it says while shopping at an auto parts store the
00:25:04 --> 00:25:11 bruce was ultimately sentenced to life without parole charles burton did not
00:25:11 --> 00:25:17 shoot the victim did not direct and trigger man to shoot the victim,
00:25:18 --> 00:25:22 and had already left the store by the time the shooting occurred.
00:25:23 --> 00:25:30 Yet Mr. Burton was set to be executed while DeBruce allowed to live out his
00:25:30 --> 00:25:33 life in prison, Ivy said in a statement.
00:25:34 --> 00:25:40 Okay, now if he wasn't sure before, I think he should be sure now, right? Right.
00:25:41 --> 00:25:46 Child Sonny Burton's Federal Defenders for the Middle District of Alabama,
00:25:46 --> 00:25:50 I cannot proceed in good conscience with the execution of Mr.
00:25:51 --> 00:25:54 Burton under such disparate circumstances.
00:25:55 --> 00:26:01 I believe it would be unjust for one participant in this crime to be executed
00:26:01 --> 00:26:04 while the participant who pulled the trigger was not.
00:26:05 --> 00:26:06 You think? Okay.
00:26:07 --> 00:26:10 Alabama Attorney General Steve
00:26:10 --> 00:26:15 Marshall expressed disappointment in the statement first to the NBC News.
00:26:16 --> 00:26:24 There has never been any doubt that Sonny Burton has Douglas Battle's blood on his hand, he said.
00:26:25 --> 00:26:29 Burton does not deserve special treatment because he is old.
00:26:30 --> 00:26:34 He couldn't not, I think Burton's 75, if I'm not mistaken.
00:26:36 --> 00:26:39 He couldn't, could have been executed a long time ago.
00:26:40 --> 00:26:47 But like many death row inmates, he chose to drag out his case through endless frivolous appeals.
00:26:48 --> 00:26:54 I firmly believe he should have faced the punishment imposed by a jury of his
00:26:54 --> 00:26:56 peers and upheld by a number of judges.
00:26:57 --> 00:27:04 Keep in mind, folks, this is Alabama. So if you think this attorney general
00:27:04 --> 00:27:07 is sounding unsympathetic, You're right.
00:27:10 --> 00:27:16 Burton amidst entering the store armed with a gun, he said he stole cash from
00:27:16 --> 00:27:21 a safe in the back room, then he fled outside to wait by the getaway car.
00:27:22 --> 00:27:28 People gathered outside the Alabama governor's mansion in Montgomery on February
00:27:28 --> 00:27:33 16th to urge Governor Kay Ivey to grant clemency to Sonny Burton.
00:28:02 --> 00:28:07 It said that said that not commit the act themselves. In a phone interview earlier
00:28:07 --> 00:28:13 this month from WMC Holman Correctional Facility, the site of the state's execution chamber,
00:28:13 --> 00:28:19 Burton told NBC News he had no idea about murder was going to happen.
00:28:20 --> 00:28:24 I didn't assist anybody. I didn't aid anybody.
00:28:24 --> 00:28:28 I didn't tell nobody to shoot anybody.
00:28:29 --> 00:28:37 Ivy had faced a growing chorus of voices asking for mercy for Burton who's 75,
00:28:38 --> 00:28:42 including the victim's daughter, who published an open.
00:28:45 --> 00:28:49 Letter in the Montgomery advisor urging Ivy to spare his life.
00:28:50 --> 00:28:54 Burton expressed gratitude to NBC News for that show of support.
00:28:54 --> 00:28:59 She forgave me, and I wanted to say how much I appreciated that, he said.
00:28:59 --> 00:29:02 She lifts a whole lot of guilt off me.
00:29:03 --> 00:29:07 Burton's family and legal team expressed their gratitude in the statement from
00:29:07 --> 00:29:11 federal defendant Bass Schultz, who represented Burton for nearly two decades.
00:29:13 --> 00:29:17 I'll stop there. What's your thoughts before I even say anything else?
00:29:17 --> 00:29:19 What's your thoughts on all of this?
00:29:20 --> 00:29:24 It almost sounds like one of those cases where after, you know,
00:29:24 --> 00:29:26 I guess this person passes away,
00:29:26 --> 00:29:35 that someone's going to come and protest and they're going to free him after
00:29:35 --> 00:29:39 death and give him these accommodations that he didn't have while he lived.
00:29:39 --> 00:29:41 I mean, the whole thing just sounds kind of crazy.
00:29:42 --> 00:29:46 I mean, he wasn't there when the guy got shot. You know, he was.
00:29:47 --> 00:29:50 I mean, and, you know, I can see there being some type of charge,
00:29:50 --> 00:29:54 but life in prison, to me, sounds egregious.
00:29:55 --> 00:30:00 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and even, and, of course, this is one of them states that
00:30:00 --> 00:30:03 you would expect this kind of stuff to go on, Alabama.
00:30:03 --> 00:30:07 I mean, unfortunately, you know, sorry to hear that. I got two friends that
00:30:07 --> 00:30:09 moved down there a few years ago.
00:30:09 --> 00:30:12 I'm still trying to figure out why they did that. But, you know,
00:30:13 --> 00:30:17 when you hear these kind of things and you figure the state,
00:30:17 --> 00:30:21 and I mean, of course, you know, you got stuff going on down there.
00:30:21 --> 00:30:22 You got businesses down there.
00:30:23 --> 00:30:28 So you see what type of area, you know, the areas that are within that state
00:30:28 --> 00:30:31 and the people that you deal with.
00:30:31 --> 00:30:36 To have a law that would have to be that stringent, you know,
00:30:36 --> 00:30:40 I can understand a felony, being charged with a felony.
00:30:40 --> 00:30:43 But if it's proof that you had nothing to do with the shooting,
00:30:43 --> 00:30:51 and the person that you know actually did the killing, you know did the killing,
00:30:51 --> 00:30:56 why are you putting the other person to death?
00:30:57 --> 00:31:00 And the other person gets suspended, the person who actually did the shooting,
00:31:01 --> 00:31:03 gets to spend the rest of his life in jail.
00:31:04 --> 00:31:08 Something wrong with that picture. Yeah, it don't make no sense.
00:31:08 --> 00:31:13 No matter what way they put it, it just makes no sense.
00:31:13 --> 00:31:17 And for the daughter of the victim to come out and say, hey,
00:31:18 --> 00:31:21 I don't want this to happen. Right.
00:31:22 --> 00:31:26 You know, an attorney general sounding as cold as they did, you know,
00:31:27 --> 00:31:31 it just tells you a lot about where we are, the day and time that we're in.
00:31:31 --> 00:31:36 This almost remind me of, yeah, okay, here we go.
00:31:36 --> 00:31:40 Folks, let me brace myself when I get ready to say this.
00:31:40 --> 00:31:47 This always almost reminds me of the movie A Time to Kill. Did you ever see that, Leonard? No.
00:31:48 --> 00:31:54 With Samuel L. Jackson and, what's my man? Yes, I'm sorry. Matthew McConaughey.
00:31:54 --> 00:31:56 Yeah, I feel like I saw that in school.
00:31:56 --> 00:32:00 Yeah, I'm sure you did, because it was a very popular movie. Remember, Samuel L.
00:32:01 --> 00:32:05 Jackson and was on trial for something that, you know, for killing somebody,
00:32:05 --> 00:32:09 but it's because of what the guy had done that he killed him.
00:32:09 --> 00:32:13 And remember he said, yeah, I killed him, and I wish he burned in hell. Remember that?
00:32:14 --> 00:32:16 You know? No. Nope. I don't.
00:32:16 --> 00:32:20 I remember seeing, but I don't remember all that. Okay.
00:32:21 --> 00:32:26 Folks, this is what I had to deal with, you know, on a regular basis with people
00:32:26 --> 00:32:32 dead, you know. Dave, you're the only one who remember all these movies and movie quotes.
00:32:33 --> 00:32:38 Well, see, that tells you how different of a day and time we both grew up in.
00:32:39 --> 00:32:45 Because we, you know, during my time, we didn't have as much free time to do
00:32:45 --> 00:32:50 other things like you guys had coming up. You know, you had all these other distractions.
00:32:50 --> 00:32:54 Remember, you came up during the computer age. We didn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:32:55 --> 00:32:58 Yeah, so we watched a lot of TV and a lot of movies.
00:32:59 --> 00:33:03 Time to Kill was a very popular movie. I think when that came out,
00:33:03 --> 00:33:06 during the 80s, 90s, early 90s, something like that.
00:33:08 --> 00:33:12 Yeah, you should have seen that movie. It's not like Invitational Life that
00:33:12 --> 00:33:13 you always can't be about.
00:33:14 --> 00:33:18 Yeah, okay, all right. But anyway, this kind of reminds me of the type of situation
00:33:18 --> 00:33:20 that happened in that movie.
00:33:22 --> 00:33:27 It's good that they are not going to put him to death, Mr.
00:33:27 --> 00:33:31 Burton to death. But now they should look at releasing him.
00:33:31 --> 00:33:35 Yeah. How many years has he been in?
00:33:36 --> 00:33:40 He has been, wait, did it say in this article?
00:33:40 --> 00:33:43 No, they didn't mention the year.
00:33:45 --> 00:33:50 Oh, 1991. Okay. Yeah, 1991. Yeah.
00:33:51 --> 00:33:54 So that's when the robbery took place, is 1991.
00:33:56 --> 00:34:02 So what's that? What's that? Almost 34 years. 33, 34, yeah.
00:34:02 --> 00:34:07 So he's been there a long time. So he went in there. He's 75 now,
00:34:07 --> 00:34:09 so he was in his 40s when he went in.
00:34:10 --> 00:34:12 Oh, crazy. Yeah.
00:34:14 --> 00:34:19 Yeah. Yeah, that'd be like Eddie Murphy and Eddie Murphy and Mario Lawrence. Yeah.
00:34:21 --> 00:34:23 Remember, they didn't think they were going to be there all those years.
00:34:23 --> 00:34:26 They ended up being there all those years. Yeah.
00:34:28 --> 00:34:36 Well, we hope Mr. Burton gets justice, and hopefully they will figure out a
00:34:36 --> 00:34:37 way to get him out of there.
00:34:38 --> 00:34:44 You know, they were going to execute him by gas, too, Leonard.
00:34:45 --> 00:34:51 It was, you know, yeah, that's not, you know, that's not the best way to go, you know.
00:34:52 --> 00:34:56 So ever since I saw, ever since the movie, what was that?
00:34:56 --> 00:34:58 What was the movie? Jamie Foxx
00:34:58 --> 00:35:04 movie. When it starts off, it starts off in the beginning with the gas.
00:35:04 --> 00:35:10 So the prisoner is being put, was being killed and injected with the gas and it went bad.
00:35:11 --> 00:35:17 And, you know, what was that movie? Jamie Foxx played the attorney general in Philadelphia.
00:35:18 --> 00:35:20 He was the district attorney in Philadelphia.
00:35:22 --> 00:35:27 You're no help. No, dude. Because, you know, dude, I was probably working.
00:35:27 --> 00:35:30 I was probably at work. You know?
00:35:31 --> 00:35:36 And all these movies, this was my baby raising time.
00:35:36 --> 00:35:39 So, you know, I probably had Barney on. Your baby raising time.
00:35:40 --> 00:35:42 Yeah, baby raising. Oh, my God.
00:35:44 --> 00:35:50 Gosh. Baby raising. Okay. Folks, you know, he's amazing. He really is.
00:35:51 --> 00:35:53 Anyway, I'm going to leave that alone.
00:35:54 --> 00:35:57 Speaking of movies, we're going to move on to our next subject,
00:35:58 --> 00:36:00 which I can't get in cooperation from him.
00:36:00 --> 00:36:02 Maybe I will at this point.
00:36:04 --> 00:36:09 Well, hold on, David. It's my turn. Look how you just tried to bolt in all my space.
00:36:10 --> 00:36:12 Yeah, I know. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead.
00:36:13 --> 00:36:17 All right. So I found this story on Oprah Winfrey that I actually thought was a little funny.
00:36:18 --> 00:36:26 So she had appeared at a fashion show in Paris and the internet or some internet
00:36:26 --> 00:36:32 trolls were kind of mocking the way that her and Gail were walking,
00:36:32 --> 00:36:36 you know, calling them like nine, you know, 90 year, looking like 90 year olds
00:36:36 --> 00:36:43 saying they walk stiff and, you know, disoriented and all that. So.
00:36:44 --> 00:36:49 Oprah has responded to, you know, some of their criticism. And it was actually
00:36:49 --> 00:36:55 kind of funny, but she says that right before she was about to hit the runway,
00:36:55 --> 00:36:59 one of the designers gave her a pair of glasses.
00:37:00 --> 00:37:05 And she said that the glasses that they gave her. So, you know,
00:37:05 --> 00:37:07 Oprah wears prescription glasses.
00:37:07 --> 00:37:10 The glasses they gave her were not prescription.
00:37:11 --> 00:37:16 Right. So she said when she put on the glasses, she couldn't see anything.
00:37:17 --> 00:37:22 So when she was walking, she really, you know how it is when you can't see nothing,
00:37:22 --> 00:37:24 but you're trying to walk and figure out where you're going.
00:37:25 --> 00:37:30 And as for Gail, apparently Gail had two broken toes.
00:37:31 --> 00:37:38 So you know gail's walking funny oprah's walking funny but that's what had caused
00:37:38 --> 00:37:44 the internet to say they look like you know two 90 year old women you know disoriented
00:37:44 --> 00:37:46 walking crazy looking elderly,
00:37:47 --> 00:37:50 but you know i i just thought it was kind of funny because you know a lot of
00:37:50 --> 00:37:55 times you know we don't know the whole story why people are doing stuff and
00:37:55 --> 00:37:58 um i don't know if you know Oprah is 72 years old,
00:37:58 --> 00:38:04 which I feel like I feel like we don't give people passes for being over 70 no more.
00:38:04 --> 00:38:08 You know, I mean, this is like now, like we don't give them pass a pass till
00:38:08 --> 00:38:14 they get to 90 or 100, you know, for looking elderly, looking old, walking funny.
00:38:15 --> 00:38:18 You know, isn't that kind of weird? Like, you know, Dave, I even looked at all
00:38:18 --> 00:38:23 the stuff with Joe Biden. And I mean, of course, you know, he was old and he
00:38:23 --> 00:38:26 looked like he was, you know, getting, getting, getting there.
00:38:27 --> 00:38:34 But I don't know if I would go online every day and just talk about how old
00:38:34 --> 00:38:42 and senile and decrepit somebody was, you know, you know, strictly on their age.
00:38:42 --> 00:38:44 Like, I'm not sure. I think it's kind of weird.
00:38:45 --> 00:38:52 It's funny. People do that all the time. I saw the video with her and Gail.
00:38:52 --> 00:38:56 I saw that immediately after it came out. I read the comments.
00:39:00 --> 00:39:06 There's also another story tied to that story about them walking the way they did.
00:39:06 --> 00:39:11 They said it was from they were having trouble with their stomachs from the
00:39:11 --> 00:39:13 weight loss drugs that they were using.
00:39:14 --> 00:39:22 Which is probably true too yeah that was something that was reported I heard
00:39:22 --> 00:39:24 that on a couple different,
00:39:25 --> 00:39:30 media outlets type media outlets that were talking about that and they were
00:39:30 --> 00:39:34 saying that that's the reason that they were walking the way that they were
00:39:34 --> 00:39:39 it's because that they were having issues with their stomachs because Oprah
00:39:39 --> 00:39:42 was bent over and And yeah,
00:39:42 --> 00:39:47 I mean, and she couldn't have been having issues with her glasses, but I mean.
00:39:48 --> 00:39:52 Okay. So, Dave, you're saying you think that was an excuse because you just
00:39:52 --> 00:39:57 said she could have had excuses, you know, issues.
00:39:57 --> 00:40:03 Do we ever really, will we ever really know what the whole story is around that? Probably not.
00:40:03 --> 00:40:08 Yeah. I mean, and that could be, that could be the truth or it could be an excuse.
00:40:08 --> 00:40:11 60, we never will know because first of all, it's Oprah.
00:40:13 --> 00:40:18 She has a crisis management team around her that works very well.
00:40:19 --> 00:40:22 Stuff might pop up for a little bit with her, but they know how to clean.
00:40:22 --> 00:40:26 She got her own Olivia Pope around her. I can guarantee she really does.
00:40:30 --> 00:40:36 People love Oprah. She is an icon.
00:40:38 --> 00:40:41 You are right about how people,
00:40:42 --> 00:40:47 have not, they don't seem to have the age pity anymore.
00:40:47 --> 00:40:53 You know, it's not, or, you know, giving a pass to people that are over a certain age.
00:40:53 --> 00:40:56 You know, I think about Oprah, Oprah's 72.
00:40:56 --> 00:40:58 To be honest with you, she's only six years older than me.
00:40:59 --> 00:41:06 So, you know, and I think about it because I know I had them days where I feel like I can't walk. Yeah.
00:41:07 --> 00:41:11 All right, well, Dave, send me the video so I can start putting stuff out online
00:41:11 --> 00:41:13 too. You ain't going to get me like that, you know.
00:41:14 --> 00:41:18 Next thing I know, the AI would be an Oprah walker, and it would be a finish
00:41:18 --> 00:41:22 line there, would be trying to get to the tape before she does, you know.
00:41:24 --> 00:41:27 But, no, I mean, it's, but you're right.
00:41:27 --> 00:41:33 I mean, if you're on social media, if you're on camera, on a regular basis,
00:41:33 --> 00:41:37 people don't care. If you put yourself out there, they're going to talk about you.
00:41:38 --> 00:41:40 They're definitely going to talk about you. And you know TMZ is going to talk
00:41:40 --> 00:41:46 about you. And they actually, I think that's why I saw it first was on TMZ. Gotcha.
00:41:46 --> 00:41:51 Yeah, so, yeah, so hopefully they are okay.
00:41:52 --> 00:41:56 And maybe the next time we see her, she won't be doing that,
00:41:56 --> 00:42:02 you know, but, but she's over, you know, she can do whatever she wants to do.
00:42:02 --> 00:42:07 You know there's very few people especially in our community who can do whatever
00:42:07 --> 00:42:12 they want to do and you know because they can buy look they wanted to she could
00:42:12 --> 00:42:14 buy the media company yeah,
00:42:15 --> 00:42:17 you know so you know,
00:42:18 --> 00:42:22 So, you see one of them people, so. And like I said, I'm a comment reader,
00:42:22 --> 00:42:24 so I always read the comments.
00:42:24 --> 00:42:26 So, I went right to the comments to see what everybody said.
00:42:26 --> 00:42:29 People were not nice. They were not. Yeah.
00:42:30 --> 00:42:34 You know, but a lot of, you got to understand, a lot of people that are under
00:42:34 --> 00:42:37 50, they don't care. They're going to say what they want to say.
00:42:39 --> 00:42:43 So, all right. Anything else on that?
00:42:43 --> 00:42:47 No, that was it. I just thought that was interesting. but I was not familiar
00:42:47 --> 00:42:51 with the part that you mentioned, so that just makes it a little more interesting.
00:42:51 --> 00:42:57 Yeah, they did. It was two different media outlets that I heard from that they
00:42:57 --> 00:43:02 all kind of mentioned that this might be something stemming from the weight
00:43:02 --> 00:43:03 loss drugs that they were taking.
00:43:04 --> 00:43:08 But of course, that's speculation as well. Of course.
00:43:09 --> 00:43:13 All right. so on Sunday
00:43:13 --> 00:43:17 night we had the Oscars and
00:43:17 --> 00:43:21 this particular Oscars probably was one
00:43:21 --> 00:43:28 that was probably more anticipated than we've had over the last few years because
00:43:28 --> 00:43:34 of especially because of two movies that were getting most of the shine and
00:43:34 --> 00:43:41 of course those movies was one that I forgot the name of it One day after another, right?
00:43:41 --> 00:43:43 One day after tomorrow, something tomorrow.
00:43:44 --> 00:43:47 One battle after another. I'm sorry, one battle after another.
00:43:47 --> 00:43:50 And then, of course, Sinners.
00:43:51 --> 00:43:55 Did you see One Battle After Another? Yeah, I thought it was really good.
00:43:55 --> 00:43:58 It was really good, okay. And I know you saw Sinners because I remember it.
00:43:59 --> 00:44:04 You know, I remember when you went to see it, you said, this is the best movie I've seen.
00:44:04 --> 00:44:07 I was like, oh, that's a letter stamp. Okay. That was good. Okay.
00:44:09 --> 00:44:14 So it basically came down to a shutdown because Senators had the most nominations.
00:44:16 --> 00:44:19 And one battle after another had the second most.
00:44:20 --> 00:44:25 So you knew it was going to be a big night and a night possibly for us to get some shine.
00:44:26 --> 00:44:32 Now this is where things kind of change up a little bit and for somebody like
00:44:32 --> 00:44:36 yourself who used to go to the oscar parties all the time and whatever you know
00:44:36 --> 00:44:41 and you know they do brackets on these things now where people are actually betting,
00:44:42 --> 00:44:50 whatever so they were there was a lot of betting going on about how this was
00:44:50 --> 00:44:53 going to go last night and who was going to win the big awards.
00:44:54 --> 00:44:59 I kind of knew from the very first award what kind of night was it going to
00:44:59 --> 00:45:01 be. Now, how much time did you watch, by the way?
00:45:03 --> 00:45:09 Maybe an hour after it started, and I watched to the end. Okay. All right. Okay.
00:45:10 --> 00:45:15 So they started out with a best supporting actress, right?
00:45:17 --> 00:45:21 That was the first award, if I'm not mistaken? Yeah.
00:45:23 --> 00:45:31 And that was won by Amy Madigan for the movie Weapons.
00:45:31 --> 00:45:33 Did you see that movie? No.
00:45:34 --> 00:45:38 I heard of it, but I didn't see it. Okay, I did see Sinners.
00:45:38 --> 00:45:42 I did see One Battle After Another. I did see that.
00:45:44 --> 00:45:52 I didn't know Amy Madigan was hooked up with my boy from The Rock and Ed Harris.
00:45:52 --> 00:45:54 You know who Ed Harris is? Yeah, Al Bundy.
00:45:55 --> 00:45:59 Oh, no, no, that ain't Ed Harris. No, that's not Ed Harris. Yeah.
00:45:59 --> 00:46:03 You ever seen the movie The Rock? The Rock? Yeah. No.
00:46:03 --> 00:46:07 With Nicolas Cage and Sean Connery where they broke into Alcatraz.
00:46:07 --> 00:46:08 Oh, okay. Yeah, I seen that.
00:46:08 --> 00:46:12 Remember the general, the guy who was the general? That's Ed Harris.
00:46:12 --> 00:46:14 Okay, so who was he hooked up with?
00:46:15 --> 00:46:19 The winner of the Best Supporting Actress, Amy Madigan. Oh, okay.
00:46:19 --> 00:46:24 It's funny because last night, I was surprised to see a whole bunch of people
00:46:24 --> 00:46:25 were hooked up with each other.
00:46:25 --> 00:46:28 I was like, oh, okay. I never knew they were together. Okay.
00:46:30 --> 00:46:33 But she ended up winning this award.
00:46:34 --> 00:46:38 Now, this is the reason I want to talk about all this because this is where
00:46:38 --> 00:46:39 the controversy comes in.
00:46:40 --> 00:46:42 Over the last few years.
00:46:44 --> 00:46:49 You know, it used to be, especially when I was coming up, the Golden Globes
00:46:49 --> 00:46:55 usually was the big award that kind of dictated who was going to win in the Oscars.
00:46:55 --> 00:46:57 You know, whoever won those big
00:46:57 --> 00:47:01 awards at the Golden Globe usually were a shoo-in to win at the Oscars.
00:47:02 --> 00:47:08 And the Screen Actors Guild, the SAG Award, that was another one or whatever.
00:47:09 --> 00:47:15 So, leading up into the Oscars, the black people were winning the awards.
00:47:17 --> 00:47:21 Tiana Taylor won for Best Supporting Actor in the Golden Globes.
00:47:22 --> 00:47:27 Delroy Lindo won Best Supporting Actor in the Golden Globes.
00:47:27 --> 00:47:32 And I think one or both of them won in the Street Actors Guild. But Michael B.
00:47:32 --> 00:47:41 Jordan won Best Actor in the Golden Girls or the Screen Actors Guild,
00:47:41 --> 00:47:42 one of those awards shows.
00:47:43 --> 00:47:49 So, just saying, Best Director went to Ryan Coogler.
00:47:50 --> 00:47:53 They won for Best Picture leading up to this. So, I'm thinking,
00:47:53 --> 00:47:57 okay, we didn't win too many awards leading up to this thing, you know.
00:47:57 --> 00:48:05 So last night when they gave out that first award, it wasn't Tiana Taylor or the young lady from...
00:48:06 --> 00:48:13 From sinners that played, which one was that? Stacks Girl or was it Spokes Girl?
00:48:13 --> 00:48:17 The one. You're talking about the mixed one, the white one? No, not that one.
00:48:18 --> 00:48:21 The dark one. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
00:48:22 --> 00:48:30 He also had one in Golden Globes. So when neither one of the black women won
00:48:30 --> 00:48:35 in the first award, I was like, okay, this is the way the night's going to go.
00:48:35 --> 00:48:39 So, Leonard, I was sitting here. I had a little score sheet.
00:48:40 --> 00:48:46 I was sitting here predicting what was going to happen with all the major awards.
00:48:48 --> 00:48:53 So, I got two wrong, Leonard. Hold on. So, were you betting money, too?
00:48:53 --> 00:48:57 No, no, no. Did you have your bookie on the line? No, no, no.
00:48:57 --> 00:49:02 But, you know, if we have another year like we had this year with those kind
00:49:02 --> 00:49:08 of movies, I might bet. You know, so, but I was, I was on it. I was on it.
00:49:08 --> 00:49:12 So let's go over to the top awards. Okay.
00:49:13 --> 00:49:19 Well, I want to bring up one particular one that was very, very uplifting and very poignant.
00:49:21 --> 00:49:30 Best Cinematography went to Sinners. And the young lady's name was Autumn Doral Archipaul.
00:49:31 --> 00:49:34 Was a woman of color. Did you see what age, when she won?
00:49:37 --> 00:49:41 Was she the, was she Asian? Yeah, I feel like I saw it.
00:49:42 --> 00:49:45 She wasn't black, she was something. Yeah, she was something,
00:49:45 --> 00:49:50 but she was a, well, you know she was, she had some kind of ethnic background. Okay, yeah. Okay.
00:49:50 --> 00:49:54 And remember, they gave her a standing round of applause.
00:49:54 --> 00:49:59 I mean, they really loved her, because she's the first woman to ever win that
00:49:59 --> 00:50:00 award. Yeah, I did see that.
00:50:01 --> 00:50:06 And then And to make it a woman of color as well, whatever ethnicities she might
00:50:06 --> 00:50:07 be, I have to look that up.
00:50:08 --> 00:50:11 But, and she was very gracious in her speech.
00:50:12 --> 00:50:15 I thought it was very poignant what she said about Ryan Coogler,
00:50:16 --> 00:50:19 about him giving her the chance to do this.
00:50:19 --> 00:50:23 But the thing, no other woman has ever done that, won that award,
00:50:24 --> 00:50:27 all these years. That's crazy.
00:50:28 --> 00:50:35 Okay. So I wanted to bring that up. The fix, my theory on the fixes.
00:50:36 --> 00:50:42 When they gave the Best Original Screenplay Award to Ryan Kuzler,
00:50:42 --> 00:50:46 I said, that's all he's getting tonight. Did you feel that way?
00:50:47 --> 00:50:48 To be honest, I wasn't sure.
00:50:49 --> 00:50:54 I already knew it. I said, and I had him winning that award, by the way.
00:50:54 --> 00:50:59 I said, that's all he's going to get tonight. They're going to give him that
00:50:59 --> 00:51:02 award to say, okay, you got one of the top awards, now sit down.
00:51:02 --> 00:51:04 That's what I was thinking to myself.
00:51:05 --> 00:51:08 You're not going to get Best Director. You're not going to get Movie.
00:51:10 --> 00:51:13 But they gave him that award. I love what he did.
00:51:13 --> 00:51:18 He made sure his cast got all the props, that he had them all stand up,
00:51:18 --> 00:51:21 and that's what he's supposed to do, especially with that type of cast.
00:51:23 --> 00:51:28 I love the fact that they got the Best Original Score. They did a great job with that score.
00:51:30 --> 00:51:35 I knew they wasn't going to get best original song because did you see did you
00:51:35 --> 00:51:37 kids watch that K-pop movie?
00:51:37 --> 00:51:42 They have. They loved it. I don't know if they loved it but it was very popular
00:51:42 --> 00:51:44 for me. It was very popular yeah it was very popular with the kids.
00:51:45 --> 00:51:51 How are they going to have them perform the movie song Golden give them all the props to do,
00:51:52 --> 00:51:57 the earn the lights down they got them waving the glow in the dark things right
00:51:57 --> 00:52:06 I'm like I'm like okay if they if these people do not win this award after going through all of that,
00:52:07 --> 00:52:11 because they didn't do that when Sinners was performing on stage with their
00:52:11 --> 00:52:18 original song you know so I said that was a fix you knew they were going to win that award okay.
00:52:21 --> 00:52:26 When it came down to best actor, I thought Michael had a shot at winning,
00:52:26 --> 00:52:28 and he did. And he ended up winning.
00:52:29 --> 00:52:32 I almost felt it was like one of those type of moments for, okay,
00:52:34 --> 00:52:35 we got to let you win something.
00:52:35 --> 00:52:39 You've been out here long enough now. Let's let him win this time.
00:52:40 --> 00:52:41 Let's see the next time he wins.
00:52:42 --> 00:52:48 Let's see what happens the next time. but Paul Thomas they were on Paul Thomas's,
00:52:49 --> 00:52:54 you know well I ain't gonna say that word but they were on you could tell,
00:52:54 --> 00:52:59 everything that came there was a little string there that one battle after another
00:52:59 --> 00:53:03 was just racking up all the awards there for a moment no Dave have you seen
00:53:03 --> 00:53:08 one battle after another yeah I said I saw it oh good alright yeah I thought
00:53:08 --> 00:53:09 it was a good movie you know,
00:53:10 --> 00:53:16 what you call him Sean Penn won for best supporting back his character was over
00:53:16 --> 00:53:20 the top it really was and did you hear the guy,
00:53:21 --> 00:53:25 Kieran Culkin say when Sean Penn was the only person that won an award that
00:53:25 --> 00:53:32 wasn't there and he says he said I'm gonna accept this award on behalf of Sean
00:53:32 --> 00:53:36 Penn since he's not here or he didn't want to be here right.
00:53:38 --> 00:53:41 I said oh man so anyway,
00:53:42 --> 00:53:47 Yeah, his character was really crazy in that movie. So, but Paul Thomas,
00:53:47 --> 00:53:51 you know, I didn't know he was hooked up with Maya Rudolph.
00:53:52 --> 00:53:55 You know who Maya Rudolph is? Yeah.
00:53:56 --> 00:54:00 Her bridesmaid and all. Yeah. Yeah. And I know she's Minnie Ripperton's daughter.
00:54:00 --> 00:54:04 Yep. Yeah. Yeah, because she used to be on Saturday Night Live.
00:54:04 --> 00:54:06 Yeah, she used to be on Saturday Night Live and everything.
00:54:06 --> 00:54:10 But yeah, that's apparently his other half. I never knew that.
00:54:10 --> 00:54:14 You know, I knew who he was, but I didn't know that. that was who she was hooked up with.
00:54:15 --> 00:54:20 So, when he won Best Director, I said they're going to win Best Picture.
00:54:20 --> 00:54:22 And, of course, they won Best Picture.
00:54:23 --> 00:54:27 Do you think the Best Picture won?
00:54:28 --> 00:54:31 Remind me what the Best Picture was. Well.
00:54:34 --> 00:54:38 You only probably seen two of them later. Well, no, no. I'm sorry.
00:54:38 --> 00:54:42 Who won? Remind me who won. Oh, one battle after another.
00:54:43 --> 00:54:46 I can definitely see it because I thought that was a great movie.
00:54:46 --> 00:54:49 So like when it won, I didn't have any hesitation.
00:54:50 --> 00:54:55 I was curious about Frankenstein because, you know, Dave, I like those Frankenstein
00:54:55 --> 00:54:59 type movies, but I don't know if I was really feeling the way that one looked.
00:55:00 --> 00:55:04 Yeah, it looked different. It looked different. But I would be open to seeing
00:55:04 --> 00:55:07 it. It got a lot of, it got a lot of. Yeah, it did.
00:55:07 --> 00:55:10 Yeah. And a lot of it had to do
00:55:10 --> 00:55:15 with, they said a lot of women like that movie. so you know yeah so but um,
00:55:16 --> 00:55:21 I think all the nominations, I think I only saw those two.
00:55:22 --> 00:55:26 Yeah, I don't think I saw any of the other ones. I didn't think of it.
00:55:28 --> 00:55:32 But now consider how crazy you were about Sinners when it came out.
00:55:32 --> 00:55:36 So you think that that movie was better than Sinners?
00:55:36 --> 00:55:38 I'm not saying it was better.
00:55:39 --> 00:55:43 Sinners had a more personal connection. You know what I mean?
00:55:43 --> 00:55:46 I mean, just being black, we can relate to stuff.
00:55:47 --> 00:55:50 So, you know, just the quality of that black movie. And I mean,
00:55:50 --> 00:55:53 I hate to say it like that when people are like, oh, you speak so well.
00:55:54 --> 00:55:57 But, you know, like, you know, that's almost how Sinners was,
00:55:57 --> 00:55:59 where it's like, man, like, this is a great movie.
00:55:59 --> 00:56:03 But, you know, white people, they, you know, they've been doing I mean,
00:56:03 --> 00:56:05 I don't want to make it sound crazy.
00:56:06 --> 00:56:10 I thought they were both great movies. I wanted Sinners to win for the cultural aspect.
00:56:10 --> 00:56:13 But you know i can't deny that
00:56:13 --> 00:56:17 when i watched you know one battle after another it
00:56:17 --> 00:56:20 was very good it's a good movie it definitely
00:56:20 --> 00:56:22 was a good movie you know it was definitely
00:56:22 --> 00:56:27 different and they kind of left it open for it to be another a sequel to that
00:56:27 --> 00:56:33 the young lady who played the daughter she was really good that was her very
00:56:33 --> 00:56:42 first movie very first movie matter of fact the the person who cast her in that movie.
00:56:44 --> 00:56:49 About how she met her one time and said, oh, this is her.
00:56:49 --> 00:56:54 This is her. So I'm sure we'll see a lot more from that young lady.
00:56:54 --> 00:56:59 So I'm sure she'll be all over the place soon.
00:57:00 --> 00:57:04 But I just thought it was interesting. I thought it was an interesting night at the Oscars.
00:57:06 --> 00:57:10 I thought Conan O'Brien was pretty good. I thought he was pretty funny.
00:57:10 --> 00:57:13 I thought he was. And I thought it was ingenious.
00:57:14 --> 00:57:17 That he did at the very end. Yeah, yeah. I thought that was cool,
00:57:17 --> 00:57:19 too. Yeah, I thought that was cool, too.
00:57:20 --> 00:57:27 That was funny, though. That was funny. Yeah, copying off of one battle after another. Yeah.
00:57:28 --> 00:57:33 So, I'm curious to see what you guys thought. Do you think it was a good night
00:57:33 --> 00:57:35 for blacks? I think it was.
00:57:36 --> 00:57:41 Even though a lot of the big winners, I mean, the people that we were hoping
00:57:41 --> 00:57:45 to win didn't, but it was good to see a bunch of us out there.
00:57:46 --> 00:57:50 Now, Dave, I do want to draw one thing that I thought was good, but weird too.
00:57:51 --> 00:57:56 When Michael B. Jordan won, did you see how hard Tiana Taylor was clapping?
00:57:57 --> 00:57:59 Right next to Leonardo DiCaprio?
00:58:00 --> 00:58:07 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw that. You know, she got in an altercation last night with a security guard.
00:58:08 --> 00:58:12 She was on her way up to the stage or something, and the security guard tried
00:58:12 --> 00:58:17 to stop her from going and he grabbed her and she got into it with the security guard.
00:58:18 --> 00:58:22 There's video of it all over. Yeah. Yeah.
00:58:24 --> 00:58:28 Yeah, I did see that. I did see him screaming. But I think that was all about,
00:58:29 --> 00:58:30 that was the black thing, I think.
00:58:31 --> 00:58:35 Yeah, it was. But I know it's awkward when you're next to the person he beat out.
00:58:35 --> 00:58:39 He's Leonardo. Come on down. But, you know, at the same point.
00:58:39 --> 00:58:40 He gets nominated every year.
00:58:40 --> 00:58:44 But, you know, at the same point, we assume a lot of these people just because
00:58:44 --> 00:58:48 they're in movies together instead of the same table that they even like each other. Yeah.
00:58:48 --> 00:58:50 You know, and they may or may not.
00:58:51 --> 00:58:54 Yeah, well, yeah, I did. I did notice that. I thought it was kind of interesting
00:58:54 --> 00:58:58 that she reacted the way she did, but she reacted that way for a lot of people
00:58:58 --> 00:59:03 that, did you notice that she, she jumped up when somebody else won too.
00:59:03 --> 00:59:04 And I was like, she jumped up
00:59:04 --> 00:59:09 for, and it wasn't, it wasn't somebody from her, from her crew, you know?
00:59:09 --> 00:59:15 So, yeah, but you know, well, you know, I thought it was a good night, you know?
00:59:15 --> 00:59:19 I mean, after all, I guess they're trying to maybe,
00:59:19 --> 00:59:23 maybe the Academy is doing some listening when it comes to us,
00:59:23 --> 00:59:28 saying it's too white so that's
00:59:28 --> 00:59:31 that's good that's good so i just wanted to talk
00:59:31 --> 00:59:34 a little bit about you know the oscars for
00:59:34 --> 00:59:38 fronty and what happened so you guys can give us your opinion on what you thought
00:59:38 --> 00:59:44 about the oscars as well all right and that brings us to linda's favorite part
00:59:44 --> 00:59:49 of the show which is dave's corner and my question since we're talking about
00:59:49 --> 00:59:53 the movies and all of that and high skirts and everything, this is my question for you.
00:59:55 --> 01:00:03 You still a go-to-the-movies person? If so, why? If not, why?
01:00:04 --> 01:00:08 So Dave, I'm definitely not a go-to-the-movies type of person.
01:00:09 --> 01:00:13 And I'll probably say the biggest reason is I don't watch a lot of,
01:00:13 --> 01:00:15 let's say, TV or network TV.
01:00:16 --> 01:00:19 So I'm not even seeing a lot of the movies that are coming out.
01:00:20 --> 01:00:23 You know, it's like in order to see the movies coming out, you either have to
01:00:23 --> 01:00:31 be on maybe YouTube and catch the ads or, you know, like regular TV and,
01:00:31 --> 01:00:33 you know, haven't caught that way, but,
01:00:34 --> 01:00:36 uh, I don't know. Like, yeah.
01:00:37 --> 01:00:40 David, if you ask me what movies were in the movie theater right now,
01:00:40 --> 01:00:41 I could not tell you a single one.
01:00:42 --> 01:00:46 So, okay. So, you know, there's a couple of big movies that are supposed to
01:00:46 --> 01:00:49 come out this year. I'm going to name two.
01:00:50 --> 01:00:52 One is the Michael movie, which comes out, I think, next month.
01:00:53 --> 01:00:57 You know about that, right? Mm-hmm. I have seen the previews for that one.
01:00:58 --> 01:01:00 Would you go see that? In the movie theater? No.
01:01:01 --> 01:01:03 Okay. All right.
01:01:04 --> 01:01:07 You watch it on TV? I would watch it.
01:01:07 --> 01:01:10 You know, my wife knows anything that has to do with singing,
01:01:11 --> 01:01:12 I'm probably not going to go see it.
01:01:14 --> 01:01:17 Now, if I'm somewhere and it's on, yeah, I'll watch it.
01:01:17 --> 01:01:20 But I'm not going to be like, hey, you know, the Michael movie just came on
01:01:20 --> 01:01:23 Netflix. Let's watch it. No, I'm not going to do that.
01:01:24 --> 01:01:25 Now, would she go to the movies to see it?
01:01:26 --> 01:01:28 She's not really a movie person either.
01:01:29 --> 01:01:35 Now, if it was released on streaming, yes, she would probably set that date to watch it.
01:01:36 --> 01:01:42 Okay interesting that this tells you about the wait you guys are x what are you guys,
01:01:44 --> 01:01:50 millennials i have no idea i don't know what we are millennials x is the next
01:01:50 --> 01:01:56 there's the one under that i think okay all right the other movie is avengers
01:01:56 --> 01:02:01 doomsday that comes out at the end of the year that's supposed to be a big movie,
01:02:03 --> 01:02:09 Possibly. Okay. In fact, to be honest, more than likely, because I do like the
01:02:09 --> 01:02:10 Marvel movies. You like the Marvel movies.
01:02:10 --> 01:02:14 And you know that's supposed to be like a big one, because that's supposed to
01:02:14 --> 01:02:18 have X-Men and Fantastic Four.
01:02:18 --> 01:02:20 I don't know how they're going to fit all these people with them.
01:02:21 --> 01:02:26 But it's going to be interesting to see how they do it. So you would possibly
01:02:26 --> 01:02:31 more likely go see that one, because it's a big one, and it's a Marvel movie.
01:02:31 --> 01:02:36 So that one you would go see. Okay. More than likely, yes. Yeah, okay. All right.
01:02:36 --> 01:02:41 Okay, I get it. I get it. I'm still a movie person.
01:02:41 --> 01:02:49 Not as much as I would have been in the past. I mean, but when those big movies come out.
01:02:53 --> 01:02:58 When those big movies come out, I would want to see them on the big screen.
01:02:59 --> 01:03:03 Especially Marvel movies. I always try to catch a Marvel movie at the movies.
01:03:03 --> 01:03:06 It's nothing like saying that either if i'm seeing it
01:03:06 --> 01:03:09 in like the 4d or something
01:03:09 --> 01:03:12 like 3d 4d whatever or and you
01:03:12 --> 01:03:20 know with the you know what you call what am i well 3d in in the 3d and you
01:03:20 --> 01:03:23 know they got that theater now i wouldn't mind going to king of pressure to
01:03:23 --> 01:03:27 that theater up in king of pressure where they have the surround set you know
01:03:27 --> 01:03:29 with all that stuff and everything,
01:03:30 --> 01:03:35 Yeah, man, that would probably be awesome to see an Avenger movie.
01:03:36 --> 01:03:39 But those kind of movies, yeah, I would definitely go to the movies to see.
01:03:40 --> 01:03:44 Now, the smaller movies, you know, like a lot of the movies that were nominated
01:03:44 --> 01:03:48 for Oscars, I'm not doing that, no. Yeah, I get it.
01:03:48 --> 01:03:52 Yeah, you know, I'm trying to think of the last time I saw a movie that wasn't, you know.
01:03:54 --> 01:03:58 No, I might go see Michael. Okay. I might go in the movie theater.
01:03:58 --> 01:04:00 Yeah, I might go see that in the movie theater.
01:04:01 --> 01:04:05 Yeah, I might do that. Yeah, I might do that. That might be,
01:04:05 --> 01:04:08 that could be interesting on a big screen.
01:04:09 --> 01:04:14 So, but I'm, definitely when the Avengers movie comes out, I'm there. Okay.
01:04:15 --> 01:04:22 Yeah, I'm there. Yeah. But anyway, so you folks, you guys let us know.
01:04:22 --> 01:04:25 Are you still movie people? Are you still people that go to the movies?
01:04:26 --> 01:04:29 And I have friends that go to the movies on a regular basis.
01:04:29 --> 01:04:34 I was like, gosh, I mean, there's not really a lot out there for you to go see. They say, oh, yeah.
01:04:34 --> 01:04:39 They buy the movie passes. They do anything. They do all of that stuff. You know? Right, right.
01:04:41 --> 01:04:46 I'm not there. But you guys let us know if you're still movie people or not.
01:04:47 --> 01:04:52 And we'll go from there. Alright, I guess That's everything we got to talk about for you guys tonight.
01:04:53 --> 01:04:56 So we really appreciate your time as always.
01:04:56 --> 01:05:01 Thank you for taking the time to listen to News and Trends with Dave and Len.
01:05:01 --> 01:05:03 And we'll talk to you next week.
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