Dave and Len discuss viral pop-culture moments and personal stories in this episode of Newz and Trendz. They break down Drewski’s skit about Black British actors stealing roles, Spike Lee’s defense of the Michael Jackson biopic amid critic backlash, and the controversial Kevin Hart roast featuring Cat Williams. Interspersed with personal reflections on prom, college trunk parties, midlife friendships, and technology, the hosts offer candid takes and listener-facing questions.
Join them for lively debate, personal anecdotes, and upcoming show announcements including guest Sherry Dorsey Walker and the Black Music Festival.
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00:01:25 --> 00:01:29 I'm hanging out with my partner, Mr. Leonard Young. What's going on, sir?
00:01:29 --> 00:01:33 Hey, Dave. Everything is good. This is Leonard Young, CEO of National Black
00:01:33 --> 00:01:39 Guide, DelawareBlack.com, black media specialist, all around good guy. How goes it, Dave?
00:01:40 --> 00:01:43 Oh, I can't call it, sir. Everything good with you?
00:01:44 --> 00:01:48 Yeah, you know, another week down in this crazy thing we call life.
00:01:49 --> 00:01:52 That's all I can say. Yeah, well, I know you got a lot going on, man.
00:01:53 --> 00:01:56 You got a graduating daughter.
00:01:56 --> 00:01:59 You been to prom stuff and all kinds of stuff, man. How was that,
00:01:59 --> 00:02:02 matter of fact? Oh, you know what? She looked beautiful.
00:02:03 --> 00:02:05 I've never seen her look like that. Did you cry later?
00:02:06 --> 00:02:10 Did you cry? No, uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh. And then people kept on asking me that.
00:02:10 --> 00:02:15 You know, Dave, I feel like prom is like crying level one, you know,
00:02:15 --> 00:02:19 maybe, maybe graduating high school is crying level six or seven.
00:02:19 --> 00:02:26 Now, now that, that college drop off that, that, that might be a nine or 10,
00:02:26 --> 00:02:30 but no, I mean, the, the prom was cool.
00:02:30 --> 00:02:35 And, you know, really at the end of the day, it was just happy to see her happy.
00:02:36 --> 00:02:41 And, you know, it's so crazy because apparently I've never been to a prom send-off before.
00:02:41 --> 00:02:44 You know, I've seen them online and, you know, pictured, but I'd never personally been.
00:02:45 --> 00:02:49 And it's so funny because when she came down the steps, man,
00:02:49 --> 00:02:52 them cameras were flashing like paparazzi.
00:02:52 --> 00:02:57 Like, you know, it was just so fun. And that's what made me recognize I'd never been to a comedy.
00:02:57 --> 00:03:01 Like, golly, like, you would think she's a celebrity out here.
00:03:01 --> 00:03:05 So it was interesting, and I know she had a good time, so I think it all worked out for her.
00:03:06 --> 00:03:10 Yeah, these kids nowadays, man, you know, you look at some of these things you
00:03:10 --> 00:03:12 see online and some of these sandals.
00:03:12 --> 00:03:17 I was looking at this one. They had this crazy, crazy set, man.
00:03:17 --> 00:03:19 It looked like something you see on Broadway or something.
00:03:21 --> 00:03:27 And the young lady came busting through the papier-mâché that was there.
00:03:28 --> 00:03:32 I was just like, you know, I was just like, okay, yeah.
00:03:33 --> 00:03:37 Much less how much the dresses and stuff cost. I'm not even getting into that,
00:03:37 --> 00:03:42 but just the sets and everything they have set up for these things, it's unreal now, man.
00:03:42 --> 00:03:52 And then, you know, the vehicles and, you know, this one young couple,
00:03:52 --> 00:03:56 they pulled up on this three-wheeler bike. This thing was souped out, Leonard.
00:03:57 --> 00:04:02 It was huge. It was huge. And they rode through the problem on this three-wheeler bike, man.
00:04:02 --> 00:04:05 It was all lit up. and everything and I was like that's different
00:04:05 --> 00:04:09 that's different you know so hopefully they
00:04:09 --> 00:04:12 didn't have a long way to drive like hopefully it's like a I don't
00:04:12 --> 00:04:15 think they had to go that far but it was it was you know but it was it was a
00:04:15 --> 00:04:19 flex though I ain't gonna lie because some people them you know they were loving
00:04:19 --> 00:04:24 it man it was a flex I ain't gonna lie so and that bike was that bike and they
00:04:24 --> 00:04:31 had the music blast and that bike was like lit up it was it was nice it was nice so So,
00:04:31 --> 00:04:33 but I don't know, man.
00:04:34 --> 00:04:37 Look, my mom wouldn't have went for none of that. Yeah.
00:04:38 --> 00:04:42 You know. Nah, you know, they're like, my prime, my prime was regular, daggular.
00:04:42 --> 00:04:46 My mom was too bad. I mean, I mean, I remember that.
00:04:46 --> 00:04:51 It was no, I mean, I think we took a couple pictures in the house and that was it, you know.
00:04:51 --> 00:04:54 So, I don't know.
00:04:54 --> 00:04:58 But anyway, well, I'm glad. And so your next, next thing is the,
00:04:58 --> 00:05:03 you guys doing a trunk party and all that stuff or. I, what does that even mean?
00:05:03 --> 00:05:06 You don't know what a trunk party is? I know what a trunk party is,
00:05:06 --> 00:05:08 but what, what is that, what, what is that related to?
00:05:09 --> 00:05:12 College. You're doing it going to college. Oh, okay. So I'm,
00:05:12 --> 00:05:14 I'm not familiar with people doing a trunk party for college.
00:05:17 --> 00:05:25 A trunk party is, you know, when you actually have a setup for all the things
00:05:25 --> 00:05:30 that she might need in school, you know, like supplies and, you know,
00:05:30 --> 00:05:33 you know, if she's going to be staying in the dorm, you know,
00:05:33 --> 00:05:39 having the essentials and, you know, making sure she has plenty of this and plenty of that.
00:05:39 --> 00:05:43 And this is all stuff that people contribute to it.
00:05:44 --> 00:05:47 And they call it a trunk party because it used to be that, you know,
00:05:48 --> 00:05:53 usually people would have one big trunk that they would take to school with them.
00:05:53 --> 00:05:57 And that would be that big, that big, you know, that big trunk.
00:05:57 --> 00:05:58 You know what I'm talking about.
00:05:58 --> 00:06:01 Yeah, I know you're talking about that. Yeah, and that's where we have all the
00:06:01 --> 00:06:03 items in it. So it's a good idea.
00:06:04 --> 00:06:06 I mean, if you hadn't thought about it, man, that's what you're doing.
00:06:06 --> 00:06:09 She doesn't have that, but she kind of had like a registry, like a college,
00:06:10 --> 00:06:11 like Amazon college registry.
00:06:12 --> 00:06:15 So, you know, new age. They boozy now. They boozy. Yeah.
00:06:16 --> 00:06:18 Nobody does trunk parties, I
00:06:18 --> 00:06:21 guess, anywhere, but they can go online and register people. Right. Right.
00:06:22 --> 00:06:32 I need a 30 or 40 inch TV, you know, for my smart TV, you know, all that stuff.
00:06:32 --> 00:06:35 So, yeah. Okay. I get it. I get it.
00:06:35 --> 00:06:40 Well, congratulations on the first part of your journey. Now you got to get
00:06:40 --> 00:06:43 through graduation and all that stuff now, right? I know. Yeah, yeah.
00:06:44 --> 00:06:48 And then the sun. Oh, man. You got a lot going on over the next couple of months,
00:06:48 --> 00:06:51 man. I know. Definitely got to be busy. Yeah.
00:06:52 --> 00:06:54 Okay. All right. Well, thanks.
00:06:55 --> 00:06:58 You know, I, I didn't, I didn't do much.
00:06:58 --> 00:07:03 Oh, and oh, happy belated mother's day to all the mothers out there from news and trends.
00:07:04 --> 00:07:08 You know, it was a mother's day weekend. It's not a mother's day anymore.
00:07:08 --> 00:07:14 It's a mother's day weekend now, you know, and I'm sure that the mothers were
00:07:14 --> 00:07:15 out there doing their thing, you know?
00:07:16 --> 00:07:18 So, but, uh, happy belated to you guys.
00:07:18 --> 00:07:21 And remember next month, there's a certain day that comes up.
00:07:21 --> 00:07:24 They tell don't seem to remember. I'm just kind of putting it out there.
00:07:25 --> 00:07:33 Hey, Dave, it's going to be a lot of tie socks and underwear going out of stock
00:07:33 --> 00:07:35 at the Targets and Walmarts.
00:07:35 --> 00:07:41 I know, I know. We'll get hand sanitizer and stuff like that. You know, so.
00:07:42 --> 00:07:46 But just kind of putting it out there in case you guys, you know,
00:07:46 --> 00:07:48 might think about it, that type of thing. Yeah.
00:07:49 --> 00:07:53 All right, well, I guess we can go ahead and get into the show.
00:07:53 --> 00:07:56 I'm sure we got a couple of hot topics to talk about.
00:07:57 --> 00:08:02 And Dave, I do want to say something super quick that doesn't need a comment or reaction.
00:08:03 --> 00:08:07 But I think I need to go see that Michael Jackson movie.
00:08:08 --> 00:08:12 The talk about it has been too incredible. And now it's almost like I kind of
00:08:12 --> 00:08:13 almost want to go support it, too.
00:08:14 --> 00:08:18 So probably in the next week, I will be checking that out. My plan is to go
00:08:18 --> 00:08:20 see it, too. I mean, I got to see it, too.
00:08:20 --> 00:08:23 And actually, we're going to be talking about that tonight, too.
00:08:24 --> 00:08:31 So everybody is loving the movie, you know, even though the critics try to downplay
00:08:31 --> 00:08:36 it, you know, and thanking God that this time it didn't work.
00:08:36 --> 00:08:41 You know, that people said, y'all can say what y'all want. It just shows the
00:08:41 --> 00:08:44 power of Michael Jackson. You know what I mean?
00:08:44 --> 00:08:50 Because everybody, you know, Mike was the man. Right. He was.
00:08:50 --> 00:08:55 So, you know, but we'll talk about that in a little bit because that's going
00:08:55 --> 00:08:56 to be something we're going to be touching on.
00:08:56 --> 00:08:59 So, all right, well, let's get let's get into our stories.
00:09:01 --> 00:09:06 This first one that I'm going to talk about kind of came up a couple days ago.
00:09:06 --> 00:09:10 You and I kind of talked, we talked about this in the past, you know,
00:09:10 --> 00:09:12 with the gist that this is about.
00:09:13 --> 00:09:17 But did you see the Drewski skits? I think I sent it to you.
00:09:17 --> 00:09:21 Yeah, I think I saw, I don't know if I saw it from start to end,
00:09:21 --> 00:09:22 but I saw a majority of it.
00:09:23 --> 00:09:28 Yeah, yeah, it's about eight minutes long, something like that.
00:09:28 --> 00:09:39 Yeah, so it's a long skit, but it's pretty, it's funny, but it's also serious at the same time.
00:09:40 --> 00:09:46 But that's what most of his skits are. You know, you can take it with humor
00:09:46 --> 00:09:48 or you can take it as a serious point.
00:09:48 --> 00:09:51 Because normally he's trying to make a point when he does these things.
00:09:51 --> 00:09:57 And for those who haven't seen it and don't know what we're talking about,
00:09:58 --> 00:10:04 Drewski, the comedian who's been known for doing all these little viral stunts
00:10:04 --> 00:10:11 and so forth, he did a skit about black British actors.
00:10:12 --> 00:10:17 Now, Leonard and I have done talks, we've done shows talking about this in the
00:10:17 --> 00:10:20 past, about black British actors.
00:10:20 --> 00:10:27 But this skit was pretty unique because he kind of poked fun about how they
00:10:27 --> 00:10:32 were getting all of these parts and stealing parts from American,
00:10:33 --> 00:10:35 actual American-born actors.
00:10:35 --> 00:10:40 So I want to read a little bit about this
00:10:40 --> 00:10:42 skit And we're going to have a little dialogue back and
00:10:42 --> 00:10:47 forth about it But this is what was said
00:10:47 --> 00:10:50 It said the truth behind Drewski's viral
00:10:50 --> 00:10:56 skit about black British actors Drewski has sent the internet into a frenzy
00:10:56 --> 00:11:03 again The 31-year-old comedian has never been one to shy away from hot topics
00:11:03 --> 00:11:07 whether it is corrupt megachurch pastors,
00:11:08 --> 00:11:13 conservative women in America, or most recently, black British actors playing
00:11:13 --> 00:11:18 the parts of African Americans in Hollywood. Let's get into it.
00:11:18 --> 00:11:24 If you haven't watched the skit yet, Drew skits in the role of Samson Dubois,
00:11:24 --> 00:11:33 a successful black British actor who stars in high-budget films about slavery,
00:11:33 --> 00:11:37 and gang life with a flawless American accent.
00:11:37 --> 00:11:44 All while frequently, I mean, all while frequenting Academy Award shows and
00:11:44 --> 00:11:47 speaking with a strong British accent behind the scenes.
00:11:49 --> 00:11:54 In the TikTok comments of the skit, folks were in stitches over Drewski's comedic
00:11:54 --> 00:11:59 performance, asking questions like, how does he even come up with these things?
00:12:00 --> 00:12:06 And writing that Drewsey's got to be number one skit creators of all time.
00:12:07 --> 00:12:16 Even Black British actors, Damson Idris and Wani Masaku, posted laughing emojis
00:12:16 --> 00:12:19 in the comedian's Instagram comments.
00:12:19 --> 00:12:26 Now, you know it had to be funny if you got the people he's poking fun at laughing about it.
00:12:26 --> 00:12:30 You know, he said, however, others pointed out that this skit,
00:12:31 --> 00:12:36 like many a Drewsey skit, was about more than just comedy and instead highlighted
00:12:36 --> 00:12:41 a conversation that had been happening online for a while.
00:12:42 --> 00:12:49 Now, why are black roles in Hollywood being dominated by British black actors?
00:12:49 --> 00:12:57 TikTok creator The Alchemist felt the skit pointed out how often non-American
00:12:57 --> 00:13:03 actors who portray Black Americans on screen can at the same time be disrespectful
00:13:03 --> 00:13:05 towards African Americans,
00:13:05 --> 00:13:07 even while portraying African Americans'.
00:13:08 --> 00:13:09 History and culture.
00:13:09 --> 00:13:19 Pulling out Idris Elba, CJ references 2023 interview with Esquire,
00:13:19 --> 00:13:25 which he said he is no longer describing himself as a black actor because he
00:13:25 --> 00:13:27 doesn't want to be put in a box,
00:13:27 --> 00:13:32 even though he became successful by playing black Americans.
00:13:33 --> 00:13:39 Aegis Elba is a great talented actor, but I don't think he would be in the position
00:13:39 --> 00:13:45 that he's in right now if it wasn't for him playing the character he did on The Wire.
00:13:46 --> 00:13:52 Or American Gangster, or other Black films or TV shows like that, he said.
00:13:52 --> 00:13:56 In the comments, one user wrote, I'm just glad he pointed out how,
00:13:57 --> 00:14:03 white production companies will gleefully hire Brits who are not African American
00:14:03 --> 00:14:10 slave trade or civil rights movement just because they are cheaper to hire.
00:14:10 --> 00:14:15 Black American actors demand to be paid fairly. I'm going to stop there.
00:14:15 --> 00:14:22 Okay, this is not a new conversation Like I said, obviously I mean,
00:14:22 --> 00:14:26 you and I have talked about this in the past before About some of the roles
00:14:26 --> 00:14:29 that have happened with black British actors,
00:14:30 --> 00:14:32 And watching the skit, I've watched it twice.
00:14:33 --> 00:14:39 I watched it because, you know, I watched it, you know, because I took it as a funny thing at first.
00:14:39 --> 00:14:47 But then I looked at it again with a social consciousness kind of thing coming from it.
00:14:47 --> 00:14:53 It kind of reminded you of, did you ever see the movie, I mean,
00:14:53 --> 00:14:56 Hollywood Shuffle with Robert Townsend?
00:14:56 --> 00:15:00 Do you ever hear of that movie? I've heard about it. I don't think I've seen it, though.
00:15:01 --> 00:15:06 Okay. So it was a movie that Robert Townsend was the director and Kenan Ivey
00:15:06 --> 00:15:09 Waynes was his executive producer.
00:15:09 --> 00:15:13 Because them two were like, like early in their careers, they did a lot of stuff
00:15:13 --> 00:15:19 together. If you looked on the credits, you see either if Kenan was the man,
00:15:19 --> 00:15:22 you see Robert as the executive producer or vice versa.
00:15:22 --> 00:15:26 Those two were connected for a long time. They're still good friends.
00:15:26 --> 00:15:32 Well, Robert Townsend in Hollywood Shuffle did a whole bit in Hollywood Shuffle
00:15:32 --> 00:15:39 talking about the British actors taking the roles of American actors back then.
00:15:39 --> 00:15:44 And this was back when that movie came out during the 90s or some early,
00:15:44 --> 00:15:47 early 90s or late 80s or something like that.
00:15:47 --> 00:15:52 So, and it kind of made you think of what Drewski did kind of made you think
00:15:52 --> 00:16:01 of this. do you think that Drew was on point with this and do you think that.
00:16:03 --> 00:16:09 We have too many. And in the clip, it shows some of the top actors,
00:16:09 --> 00:16:16 Black actors, who all are Brits playing, you know, and we know their faces.
00:16:16 --> 00:16:22 We know them all. And they all have been nominated for awards playing characters
00:16:22 --> 00:16:24 that are mostly American characters.
00:16:24 --> 00:16:29 So what is your thoughts on this whole thing? So I almost feel like when I think
00:16:29 --> 00:16:36 about it, I'm going to compare it to black Americans and immigrant black people
00:16:36 --> 00:16:39 as a whole. You know, I feel like.
00:16:41 --> 00:16:45 You know, there's a lot of jobs that black Americans don't want to take,
00:16:46 --> 00:16:51 you know, and when some of these immigrants come over, you know,
00:16:52 --> 00:16:56 they're ending up taking whatever they can get, you know, these jobs,
00:16:56 --> 00:16:58 stuff that we don't want.
00:16:58 --> 00:17:03 So if I can bring it back, I feel like a lot, and I mean, I could be wrong.
00:17:03 --> 00:17:08 I feel like a lot of black Americans are not striving for these traditional
00:17:08 --> 00:17:16 roles like they used to in the past. I feel like a lot more of them are doing the independent thing.
00:17:16 --> 00:17:18 They're doing the Netflix straight to video.
00:17:19 --> 00:17:24 They're doing like the Tyler Perry, the 50 cent, you know, some of these black directors.
00:17:25 --> 00:17:28 And i kind of feel like when a lot of these british
00:17:28 --> 00:17:31 people come over they're trying to
00:17:31 --> 00:17:34 go straight to hollywood you know i mean like they're like
00:17:34 --> 00:17:36 you know these british actors ain't coming over trying to be in the
00:17:36 --> 00:17:41 tubie movie you know i mean like they're coming over trying to be legit hollywood
00:17:41 --> 00:17:46 and of course the only ones that are going to make it over here are going to
00:17:46 --> 00:17:51 be the ones that were probably super talented over there you know i mean so
00:17:51 --> 00:17:55 it's i wonder i wonder if they consider that to be any type of draw.
00:17:55 --> 00:18:03 So let's say you have a up and coming actor in America, but he's well known
00:18:03 --> 00:18:07 in England or Britain, Great Britain.
00:18:07 --> 00:18:12 You know, is that a draw over an American who may not be as known here?
00:18:12 --> 00:18:20 You know what I mean? I don't know. And Dave, to be honest, I don't, I personally...
00:18:21 --> 00:18:27 And Dave, you know, hopefully none of the celebrities who listen to the show
00:18:27 --> 00:18:30 get offended with us and, you know, drop all their million dollars in sponsorship.
00:18:31 --> 00:18:35 There you go. But I don't personally see a problem.
00:18:35 --> 00:18:37 I mean, I understand it.
00:18:38 --> 00:18:42 But at the same point, I'm not sure if I necessarily.
00:18:42 --> 00:18:47 And I mean, I see what's happening. I understand how some people can feel.
00:18:47 --> 00:18:51 But, you know, I also think, I don't know.
00:18:52 --> 00:18:58 I mean, I won't say not my problem, but I don't know if, you know,
00:18:58 --> 00:19:03 I definitely don't lose any sleep, you know, concerning it, if that makes sense.
00:19:04 --> 00:19:09 Well, it's interesting that you take that point of view, because I wonder if
00:19:09 --> 00:19:14 you would feel that way if you were being passed over.
00:19:14 --> 00:19:19 And I'm not even going to say as far as Hollywood is concerned,
00:19:19 --> 00:19:20 but I'm just going to say,
00:19:20 --> 00:19:27 like, what if you were working and you were applying for jobs and everything
00:19:27 --> 00:19:31 that you went to school for in your field and whatever, right?
00:19:32 --> 00:19:40 But you kept getting passed over for jobs because they hired someone of a certain.
00:19:40 --> 00:19:47 You know, hired someone who looked a certain way or, you know,
00:19:47 --> 00:19:51 tend to come from a certain area or whatever the case may be.
00:19:51 --> 00:19:55 I'm sure it would get to you after a while. I mean, you know,
00:19:55 --> 00:19:56 you figure these actors,
00:19:57 --> 00:20:02 you know, I mean, of course, nobody's going to take anything from Denzel,
00:20:02 --> 00:20:07 you know, but, you know, as far as acting is concerned, you know, because he's the man.
00:20:07 --> 00:20:14 But think about some of these other actors, these other actors that we've seen on the screen for years.
00:20:15 --> 00:20:19 Then you say to yourself, okay, well,
00:20:19 --> 00:20:28 when you see a Dan, some Idris or Idris Abba or David Aiello or,
00:20:28 --> 00:20:31 or what's the guy from Get Out?
00:20:31 --> 00:20:36 That guy. Daniel Kaluuya. Daniel Kaluuya. Yeah.
00:20:36 --> 00:20:40 When you see those kind of people and that when you pop in, you know,
00:20:40 --> 00:20:42 and they're getting all these roles and so forth.
00:20:43 --> 00:20:47 You know, I was reading about an actor who was a black guy who's on.
00:20:48 --> 00:20:54 He's done a couple of plays on Broadway. I call for they were Shakespearean type plays.
00:20:54 --> 00:21:02 He taught himself how to talk with that type of accent so he can get the roles
00:21:02 --> 00:21:05 because he wasn't getting the roles when he was using his own accent.
00:21:06 --> 00:21:10 And so because it was those type of plays, he was doing Shakespearean plays,
00:21:10 --> 00:21:11 of course, quite naturally.
00:21:11 --> 00:21:16 If you spoke that way, you were going to be able to probably have a better shot
00:21:16 --> 00:21:20 at getting the roles than coming through talking your natural dialect.
00:21:21 --> 00:21:23 So, and he said that has worked for him.
00:21:24 --> 00:21:30 So, I don't know. I think it's a, you know, I think it's some truth to it because, you know, I mean.
00:21:31 --> 00:21:35 You think nowadays when you look at the roles, I mean, you know,
00:21:35 --> 00:21:40 you got dancing, you got dancing to Idris playing a black race car driver,
00:21:41 --> 00:21:44 you know, who was American. Okay.
00:21:45 --> 00:21:48 So why not just have an American, a black American actor play there?
00:21:49 --> 00:21:50 Well, David, let me ask you this.
00:21:51 --> 00:21:58 Let's say you're a casting director and three black actors come in and they
00:21:58 --> 00:22:00 all audition for the role, right?
00:22:01 --> 00:22:05 You know, they come in with their script, their monologue, and then you pick
00:22:05 --> 00:22:07 the one you feel is the best, right?
00:22:08 --> 00:22:13 And then when you call that person on the phone to tell them they got the role,
00:22:13 --> 00:22:15 they say something like, pip, pip, cheerio, or.
00:22:17 --> 00:22:20 You know like like you know and i'm
00:22:20 --> 00:22:23 i'm sure people know because you know had they have like you know they probably give
00:22:23 --> 00:22:25 them their bios and all that stuff but you know
00:22:25 --> 00:22:30 so what would you do you you picked a black british actor that you didn't even
00:22:30 --> 00:22:36 know yeah you went with the best person for the part i know i get it but then
00:22:36 --> 00:22:40 that but that should tell you how how serious they take their craft because
00:22:40 --> 00:22:44 i will say they take their craft very serious that's why they're able to pull off.
00:22:44 --> 00:22:48 I mean, you know, the only reason we know who Egypt Zalvo is,
00:22:48 --> 00:22:52 is because of the role he played on The Wire, you know, and,
00:22:52 --> 00:22:54 and he turned that, you know,
00:22:54 --> 00:23:02 he turned that role into what he is now, you know, so, and nobody knew at the time.
00:23:03 --> 00:23:06 That he was from there. Right. You know, because he played the role so well.
00:23:07 --> 00:23:09 And then, you know, on top of it, you want me to tell you why it's probably
00:23:09 --> 00:23:11 not a lot of people don't, I
00:23:11 --> 00:23:15 won't, well, I won't, a lot of people don't care about it, in my opinion.
00:23:16 --> 00:23:20 Because it's not affecting any movie sales. Like, nobody's talking about,
00:23:20 --> 00:23:26 you know, like, people aren't talking about boycotting movies that have British
00:23:26 --> 00:23:28 actors instead of Black actors, Black Americans.
00:23:28 --> 00:23:32 It was funny because the only people that's talking about boycotting movies are the people.
00:23:33 --> 00:23:37 Yeah, are the actors. Actors who aren't getting the job. Right. Yeah, yeah.
00:23:38 --> 00:23:42 So I get it. I get it. And that's why I guess it's such a lightning rod.
00:23:42 --> 00:23:46 And like I said, when Drewski did this skit, I'm sure he did it with that in
00:23:46 --> 00:23:48 mind, you know, because,
00:23:48 --> 00:23:53 you know, he, you know, I think I read that he had said that,
00:23:53 --> 00:23:58 you know, he was, you know, a lot of, a lot of the actors, the American actors was getting tired.
00:23:58 --> 00:24:02 You know, and, you know, they were having a hard time getting these parts or whatever.
00:24:02 --> 00:24:05 And Dave, you know, I wonder, I wonder if there's a difference in work ethic.
00:24:06 --> 00:24:07 Because, you know, they say Americans are lazy.
00:24:08 --> 00:24:12 Yeah. You know, like, are we showing up late, lines half remembered?
00:24:13 --> 00:24:16 You know, maybe we got our own drama, like, outside of acting,
00:24:17 --> 00:24:21 like, wife drama, baby mama drama, girlfriend drama, drug drama, you know.
00:24:21 --> 00:24:28 Well, that's why the movie Hollywood Shuffle was so pathetic when it came out.
00:24:29 --> 00:24:36 It came out way before its time because in that whole part about the actors and the British actors,
00:24:36 --> 00:24:45 there was a guy, Robert Townsend was playing a guy who was trying out for a role as a pimp.
00:24:46 --> 00:24:50 He was, you know, working it out and trying to get this role down.
00:24:50 --> 00:24:53 And there was a British actor talking to him and said, well,
00:24:53 --> 00:24:56 you know, I don't think I can do that or whatever.
00:24:56 --> 00:24:59 Then he was watching Robert Townsend. And then all of a sudden,
00:24:59 --> 00:25:00 Robert Townsend didn't get the role.
00:25:01 --> 00:25:04 But this guy got the role because he studied and learned how to do it, you know.
00:25:05 --> 00:25:11 But, you know, this is where we are. I mean, I'd be interested in what you guys
00:25:11 --> 00:25:14 had to think about this whole thing. Because, you know, when you look at it,
00:25:15 --> 00:25:18 you know, the top roles are going to these guys.
00:25:18 --> 00:25:22 You know, a lot of these roles are. When you sit there and you watch interviews
00:25:22 --> 00:25:25 with you and you be saying, oh, they're not from here.
00:25:26 --> 00:25:30 You know, and you hear it right away and you say, wow.
00:25:30 --> 00:25:34 You know, when they do the auditions, what they should do is like the voice.
00:25:34 --> 00:25:38 You know, when they have the cheers and turn around, they listen to the people
00:25:38 --> 00:25:41 sing and then they turn the cheers around based on what they hear.
00:25:41 --> 00:25:44 You know about whether or not they want this
00:25:44 --> 00:25:46 person to be on their team they should have people come in and
00:25:46 --> 00:25:49 audition they have their backs to them and just listen
00:25:49 --> 00:25:53 to them do the parole now of
00:25:53 --> 00:25:55 course that might not solve the problem because that probably still would be
00:25:55 --> 00:26:01 one of those guys right because they prepare and they know but what do you guys
00:26:01 --> 00:26:05 think you know because i mean some of your favorite movies have these actors
00:26:05 --> 00:26:10 in it so you guys tell me what you think does it matter Leonard says it doesn't really matter,
00:26:10 --> 00:26:13 you know, or it doesn't matter, you know?
00:26:13 --> 00:26:17 I think it does in the case of the American Act.
00:26:17 --> 00:26:21 But like they used to tell, they used to be mad at Michael Jordan because Michael
00:26:21 --> 00:26:25 Jordan was doing all these great things on the court, winning all the championships,
00:26:25 --> 00:26:28 and everybody said, well, if you're mad at him, beat him.
00:26:29 --> 00:26:33 That's what you got to do is go out there and beat him. Nobody ever beat him.
00:26:34 --> 00:26:40 So that's what happened. Alright we're going to move on to this next story Speaking of,
00:26:41 --> 00:26:50 what we were talking about earlier, Spike Lee slams Michael's critic after watching Biopig twice.
00:26:51 --> 00:26:55 Film headed towards, and at this point, it's well over the amount,
00:26:55 --> 00:26:56 over 500 million at that time.
00:26:57 --> 00:27:06 So Spike Lee, one of our top black film directors and movie makers,
00:27:07 --> 00:27:14 you know, been in the business for years, you know, He went to support another black filmmaker, Mr.
00:27:15 --> 00:27:19 Hukwa, who was the director of the film.
00:27:20 --> 00:27:28 And this is what he had to say about all the controversy about the critics trying to pan the movie.
00:27:29 --> 00:27:34 Now, this is Spike Lee, who already said that he went to see the movie twice.
00:27:34 --> 00:27:39 So that tells you he enjoyed the movie. It says Spike Lee has officially weighed
00:27:39 --> 00:27:42 in on the controversy surrounding the Michael Jackson biopic,
00:27:42 --> 00:27:46 Michael, and he said he is not holding back.
00:27:46 --> 00:27:53 The acclaimed director, actor who worked closely with Jackson during his lifetime,
00:27:53 --> 00:27:57 has strongly defended the film against criticism that it omits the singer's
00:27:57 --> 00:28:00 child sexual abuse allegations.
00:28:00 --> 00:28:07 In recent interviews including a candid appearance on CNN Laura Coates Live
00:28:07 --> 00:28:15 Lee made his position clear his primary argument is simple and rooted in the
00:28:15 --> 00:28:18 film's structure the movie ends in 1988,
00:28:19 --> 00:28:25 Spike Lee didn't hold back after watching Michael twice he made one clear the
00:28:25 --> 00:28:29 critics can say what they want but the audience told the real story.
00:28:30 --> 00:28:35 Critics out of touch on this one. I need honest opinions.
00:28:36 --> 00:28:42 It says, the timeline defense. Lee pointed out that the first major public allegations
00:28:42 --> 00:28:49 against Jackson surfaced in 1993, five full years after the film's narrative concludes.
00:28:50 --> 00:28:57 The biopic focuses on Jackson's rise from childhood through the iconic bed area
00:28:57 --> 00:28:59 culminating during the bed tour.
00:28:59 --> 00:29:03 You're critiquing the film
00:29:03 --> 00:29:06 on something that you want in the film
00:29:06 --> 00:29:09 but doesn't work in in the
00:29:09 --> 00:29:12 timeline of the film meaning that
00:29:12 --> 00:29:17 they're trying to put stuff in there that hadn't happened yet okay the stuff
00:29:17 --> 00:29:23 you're talking about accusations happen later on or late critics are reviewing
00:29:23 --> 00:29:29 a movie that was never made rather than judging the one that exists on the screen
00:29:29 --> 00:29:31 that's deep and that makes a lot of sense.
00:29:32 --> 00:29:38 Fans show up while critics complain. Despite the backlash from some reviewers,
00:29:38 --> 00:29:40 Lee emphasized one undeniable fact.
00:29:42 --> 00:29:49 Audiences are flocking to the theaters worldwide. But people showed up, Lee said.
00:29:49 --> 00:29:54 Worldwide, people showed their love. The numbers back him up.
00:29:54 --> 00:30:01 The box office assessor says, Michael opened April 24, 4 through 26.
00:30:01 --> 00:30:10 Of this year, to a staggering $97.2 million domestic, which is here in the States.
00:30:10 --> 00:30:16 A new record for a music biopic, surpassing Straight Outta Compton.
00:30:17 --> 00:30:24 Worldwide opening weekend reached an estimated $217 to $218 million.
00:30:24 --> 00:30:28 As of early May 2026,
00:30:29 --> 00:30:36 just 10 to 11 days into release, the film already crossed the $424 million globally,
00:30:37 --> 00:30:42 marked $183 to $184 million domestically,
00:30:43 --> 00:30:46 $240 million internationally.
00:30:46 --> 00:30:56 It has surpassed Elvis $288 million to become the second highest grossing music biopic ever,
00:30:56 --> 00:31:02 trailing only Bohemian Rhapsody, which was $911 million.
00:31:03 --> 00:31:10 With a production budget of approximately $155 million, the film is already profitable.
00:31:11 --> 00:31:15 It says, Lee's personal connection to the King of Pop, Lee's defense carries
00:31:15 --> 00:31:17 extra weight given his history with Jackson.
00:31:18 --> 00:31:23 He directed the music video, Or They Don't Care About Us, and two acclaimed
00:31:23 --> 00:31:28 documentaries, Bad 25 and Michael Jackson's Journey from Motown to Off the Wall.
00:31:29 --> 00:31:32 I miss Mike, Lee said. I miss Prince.
00:31:33 --> 00:31:39 These are my brothers. I work with both of them and both beautiful, beautiful people.
00:31:39 --> 00:31:46 His emotional attachment to the Jackson legacy is palpable, and it informs his
00:31:46 --> 00:31:50 frustration with critics who want the film to be something else.
00:31:51 --> 00:31:57 Audience versus critic divide. The controversy has created a stark split between
00:31:57 --> 00:32:00 critics and fans on Rotten Tomatoes.
00:32:00 --> 00:32:06 Audience scores hover around 96%. Now, this is the audience.
00:32:06 --> 00:32:12 While the critic reviews remain mixed to negative, supporter of Lee's position
00:32:12 --> 00:32:16 argues that critics are ignoring the film's artistic choices and scope.
00:32:16 --> 00:32:23 Detractives accused Lee of downplaying serious allegations by focusing solely on the timeline.
00:32:25 --> 00:32:30 And they said that the final word from Lee, the fans of Jackson's music and
00:32:30 --> 00:32:35 artistry, Michael delivered exactly what its title promises,
00:32:35 --> 00:32:38 a celebration of the man who became the king of pop.
00:32:39 --> 00:32:43 For Lee, that is more than enough. Whether critics agree or not,
00:32:44 --> 00:32:50 audiences have already voted with their wallets, and Spike Lee is standing firmly with the fans.
00:32:50 --> 00:32:54 You're critiquing the film on something you want in the film.
00:32:54 --> 00:32:58 Lee repeated, but it doesn't work in this timeline.
00:32:59 --> 00:33:05 So, and then it said, but Lee Han just was doing an interview described by multiple
00:33:05 --> 00:33:11 outlets as dismissive, made his feelings about the criticism bumbling clear.
00:33:11 --> 00:33:15 Yeah, because I did see a little bit at the interview, and he just kept waving
00:33:15 --> 00:33:20 off the notion that the girl was trying to give her about, but what about this
00:33:20 --> 00:33:21 and what about that, you know?
00:33:23 --> 00:33:28 So, Lee made it clear, the critics can say what they did, because I know when
00:33:28 --> 00:33:33 I first saw the critics' reviews, it was around 30%, somewhere around there,
00:33:33 --> 00:33:35 saying it was horrible, you know.
00:33:36 --> 00:33:42 But the public's view of the movie was in the 90s, you know.
00:33:42 --> 00:33:47 So, and of course, it's a movie, it's one of our movies, so they don't want
00:33:47 --> 00:33:51 our movies ever to do well, you know that. So anything about us,
00:33:51 --> 00:33:52 they don't want it to do well.
00:33:52 --> 00:33:56 So they try to figure out ways for the tickets not to count the ticket sales,
00:33:56 --> 00:33:58 not to count on all of that stuff.
00:33:59 --> 00:34:04 But obviously, this Michael movie, everything that you have heard about the
00:34:04 --> 00:34:07 movie, because I'm going to speak for myself.
00:34:07 --> 00:34:11 Everything I've heard about the movie, everybody loves it. I know somebody saw
00:34:11 --> 00:34:13 it five times already, Link. Wow.
00:34:14 --> 00:34:20 She was a big Michael Jackson fan, and she keeps going back and back. Is that a... Bernay.
00:34:21 --> 00:34:28 Who? Okay. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You don't know this person. But this, yeah.
00:34:28 --> 00:34:32 But this is somebody I work with. They have seen the movie five times.
00:34:33 --> 00:34:40 You know. When you have a person like this as big as Michael Jackson is,
00:34:40 --> 00:34:45 and people wasn't ready for him to go, you know.
00:34:45 --> 00:34:50 So anytime anything comes out about him, I think people are going to flock to see it, you know.
00:34:50 --> 00:34:53 So what's your thoughts on all
00:34:53 --> 00:34:56 of this do you think that spike makes valid
00:34:56 --> 00:35:01 points here and yeah i mean i i kind of feel that's obvious it's like if i do
00:35:01 --> 00:35:07 a movie about world war one and you come talking about world war ii it's like
00:35:07 --> 00:35:11 okay that wasn't what the movie was about i mean agree i i agree with that i
00:35:11 --> 00:35:14 mean i i almost don't even see the debate there,
00:35:14 --> 00:35:18 um as far as far as the critics i don't really listen to the critics anyway
00:35:18 --> 00:35:22 like you know ever since Cisco and Ebert stopped way back when they had their little show.
00:35:24 --> 00:35:27 I think with social media, we don't need critics.
00:35:28 --> 00:35:32 We don't need these movie critics. We can just go on TikTok or Instagram and
00:35:32 --> 00:35:32 see what people are saying.
00:35:33 --> 00:35:38 Then for the last part, the thing that I really do like is that and I think
00:35:38 --> 00:35:44 it's kind of cool and this is a tribute to Michael Jackson, all his songs are coming back.
00:35:44 --> 00:35:48 Dave, I was at the gym. I'm hearing Michael Jackson. I'm at restaurants.
00:35:48 --> 00:35:52 I'm It's like all his songs are like coming back.
00:35:52 --> 00:35:56 And, you know, I mean, you know, he got some jams.
00:35:56 --> 00:35:59 So, you know, it's not like they play a song for like a day.
00:35:59 --> 00:36:03 You know, I wouldn't be I don't know how long bad was on the top 100,
00:36:03 --> 00:36:08 but I could imagine some of these songs coming back and sticking with us for
00:36:08 --> 00:36:11 some weeks, maybe in a couple of months in heavy rotation.
00:36:12 --> 00:36:15 Well, that was just like, remember when he died, how all the videos,
00:36:16 --> 00:36:19 you remember they played the videos for months, man.
00:36:19 --> 00:36:24 I mean, you know, every song, every day you heard something about Michael Jackson.
00:36:24 --> 00:36:27 I mean, ever since the movie come out, that's all you're going to hear.
00:36:27 --> 00:36:33 I mean, and when you go, they said that his nephew played the hell out of that role.
00:36:33 --> 00:36:37 They said, yeah, they said he was really, really good in it.
00:36:38 --> 00:36:42 So now folks yes you you're
00:36:42 --> 00:36:45 if you if you're reading in between the lines you can
00:36:45 --> 00:36:48 tell me and leonard have not seen the film yet but we
00:36:48 --> 00:36:53 plan to see it so you know it hasn't been that we don't want to see it we definitely
00:36:53 --> 00:36:59 want to see the film so but but it is you know of course i've heard a lot about
00:36:59 --> 00:37:04 it and you know i've seen clips from it you know but and i know i do want to
00:37:04 --> 00:37:07 see it in the theater because I could punch it up on, you know,
00:37:07 --> 00:37:12 one of these streaming services or anything, but I want to go see it in the theater, so...
00:37:13 --> 00:37:18 And make sure they get credit for somebody paying to see it,
00:37:18 --> 00:37:21 you know, because that's how they push these numbers up.
00:37:21 --> 00:37:25 Because this movie came out and it's doing so well, you know they're going to
00:37:25 --> 00:37:27 try to push another movie.
00:37:28 --> 00:37:31 As they should. Yeah, you know, you know.
00:37:31 --> 00:37:38 I mean, you probably won't have another movie do this well unless it's something
00:37:38 --> 00:37:39 that you're not playing.
00:37:39 --> 00:37:44 I mean, I know they got He-Man coming out. Did you say they got He-Man coming out?
00:37:44 --> 00:37:47 Nah, I didn't see that. They got a He-Man movie. They got all these,
00:37:47 --> 00:37:51 they're bringing back a lot of retread stuff. You know what I mean?
00:37:52 --> 00:37:55 And, of course, the big movie coming out this year will be at the end of the
00:37:55 --> 00:37:58 year. Of course, I know that's from Doomsday.
00:37:58 --> 00:38:01 The Marvel movie, yeah.
00:38:02 --> 00:38:07 But I strongly suggest, guys, if you haven't seen it yet, go see it.
00:38:07 --> 00:38:12 And maybe the next time we have our conversation with you guys,
00:38:12 --> 00:38:17 me and Leonard would have already seen it so we can say a little more about it. So, all right.
00:38:19 --> 00:38:23 But I'm glad that Spike Lee stuck up for the movie like that and stuck up,
00:38:23 --> 00:38:28 you know, for the fact that, you know, he kept it real. He said, hey, I knew Michael.
00:38:29 --> 00:38:34 You know? I mean, you know, and this movie was about the timeline that it was
00:38:34 --> 00:38:36 about. It wasn't about that.
00:38:36 --> 00:38:39 Now, if they do another movie, I'm sure they're going to have to cover that
00:38:39 --> 00:38:42 because the people saying that they think it's going to be a part two.
00:38:42 --> 00:38:45 I'm sure they're going to have to cover that period of his life too.
00:38:46 --> 00:38:49 So, we'll see. We'll see how that goes.
00:38:50 --> 00:38:56 All right, let's move on to our next subject. So, Dave, and you actually put
00:38:56 --> 00:38:59 me on to this because I think when I got to the gym this morning,
00:38:59 --> 00:39:02 I was checking my text messages and I saw you send that link.
00:39:04 --> 00:39:09 Well, I mean, you sent it yesterday. I mean, I will sleep. You know, some of them get tired.
00:39:11 --> 00:39:16 But, you know, so, of course, they have the roast, the celebrity roast of Kevin Hart out.
00:39:17 --> 00:39:21 And, you know, so what percentage have you seen so far?
00:39:22 --> 00:39:27 Well, the reason that it even came to my attention because I was watching something
00:39:27 --> 00:39:31 on Facebook with Country Wayne, the comedian.
00:39:31 --> 00:39:37 And Country Wayne was talking about how he was just so excited to see his two
00:39:37 --> 00:39:44 idols, Kevin Hart and Cat Williams, come together and squash their beef. And I was like, what?
00:39:44 --> 00:39:46 What just happened, right?
00:39:47 --> 00:39:52 And he kept talking, he kept talking. I heard him talk about the Netflix thing
00:39:52 --> 00:39:53 and the celebrity roast.
00:39:53 --> 00:39:56 So I started looking around online because I didn't know anything about it.
00:39:57 --> 00:40:00 And then I found that clip that I sent to you. And I was like,
00:40:01 --> 00:40:02 oh, so this is what happened.
00:40:04 --> 00:40:07 So tell me what you thought. Have you looked at the whole thing?
00:40:08 --> 00:40:11 No, no, no. So, I mean, I probably, and I could be wrong. For some reason,
00:40:11 --> 00:40:15 I feel like when I put it on, I might have seen two hours and 30 minutes.
00:40:15 --> 00:40:18 I probably watched about 30 minutes of it.
00:40:19 --> 00:40:23 And I can't... Well, that clip, I mean...
00:40:24 --> 00:40:27 You watched the whole Cat Wins thing, though, right? No, no.
00:40:28 --> 00:40:31 No, Dave, I didn't even look at the clip you sent. Oh, my God.
00:40:31 --> 00:40:36 How did you not look at the clip I sent you? So I went straight to Netflix to
00:40:36 --> 00:40:40 watch it. Oh, so you went to watch the whole thing. Yeah, I went to watch the whole thing.
00:40:40 --> 00:40:43 And that's why, like, I feel like when I started the whole thing,
00:40:43 --> 00:40:47 it said two hours and 30 minutes. But I don't know because I wasn't really paying attention.
00:40:47 --> 00:40:50 But so, I mean, I saw about 30 minutes of it. I saw the intro,
00:40:51 --> 00:40:55 Usher, Tom, Brady, you know, a couple other people.
00:40:56 --> 00:41:01 And, you know, I thought some of the stuff they said was a little,
00:41:01 --> 00:41:07 you know, racist slash racially inappropriate.
00:41:08 --> 00:41:12 Yeah, yeah. But, you know, in my mind, I was like, well, you know, it's comedy.
00:41:12 --> 00:41:16 You know, Kev's cool with it. So I guess, you know, it is what it is.
00:41:17 --> 00:41:21 And then when I was riding to the campground today, I happened to turn on The Breakfast Club.
00:41:21 --> 00:41:25 And when I turned it on, they were talking about it at that minute.
00:41:26 --> 00:41:30 Oh, I'm so sad. Because I listened to The Breakfast Club sometime in the morning.
00:41:30 --> 00:41:34 And I had it on this morning, but they were talking to Dr. Cheyenne Bryan at the time.
00:41:35 --> 00:41:40 Right. Gotcha. Yeah. So, you know, and they were just commenting whether,
00:41:40 --> 00:41:42 you know, they thought it was pushing the line or not.
00:41:43 --> 00:41:49 And that's kind of what brought it to my forefront, where it's like, because, okay, so...
00:41:51 --> 00:41:55 Damn. And I don't want to give too much away without giving it away.
00:41:55 --> 00:42:01 But there were three or four roasters, people who are roasting Kevin Hart,
00:42:01 --> 00:42:07 who had tragic losses or tragic experiences.
00:42:08 --> 00:42:13 And the other roasters and maybe Kevin Hart did, too, when he finally got up.
00:42:13 --> 00:42:18 But the other roasters were kind of making fun of the people's tragic losses.
00:42:18 --> 00:42:26 So, you know, Dave, just for an example, imagine, you know, your wife died in a car accident.
00:42:27 --> 00:42:31 Somebody, somebody would say a joke regarding that, you know,
00:42:31 --> 00:42:35 so not only was some of it highly racial, you know, talking about someone getting
00:42:35 --> 00:42:41 lynched, hung from a tree, you know, some stuff was just extremely.
00:42:41 --> 00:42:45 And i i mean comedy is comedy and
00:42:45 --> 00:42:50 they cool with it but you know i guarantee you you go on the street and you
00:42:50 --> 00:42:55 know you talk about someone's that's a fight man yeah kids mothers so i mean
00:42:55 --> 00:43:01 i haven't seen all of it but and i mean i can't lie some stuff you know how
00:43:01 --> 00:43:03 some stuff is so funny You're like,
00:43:04 --> 00:43:06 oh, oh, like, oh my goodness.
00:43:07 --> 00:43:13 Yeah. Yeah. So overall, I mean, I wasn't deeply affected by what they said,
00:43:13 --> 00:43:18 probably only because, you know, nobody else was, but I could see some people
00:43:18 --> 00:43:20 feeling a certain way about it.
00:43:21 --> 00:43:25 Yeah. I saw Kat.
00:43:26 --> 00:43:31 And for those of you, I know, because that's what started the whole thing is
00:43:31 --> 00:43:37 me sending the clip to Leonard about Cat Williams, but and Cat had a lot to say.
00:43:38 --> 00:43:40 He had a lot to say. Mm-hmm.
00:43:42 --> 00:43:42 Kevin.
00:43:45 --> 00:43:47 Telling without telling. I know.
00:43:49 --> 00:43:53 I mean, I mean, I, I, I didn't see it, but I'm not going to say what,
00:43:53 --> 00:43:54 I'm not going to talk about what he said.
00:43:54 --> 00:43:58 Yeah. But what I'm going to say is this. Was it expected or unexpected?
00:43:59 --> 00:44:04 Very expected. Okay. Because if you know Cat Williams and you know his issue
00:44:04 --> 00:44:10 with Kevin, you know that, I mean, you saw the club Shay Shay interview, right?
00:44:10 --> 00:44:14 Yeah. Yeah. Way back. You remember what he said about Kevin and that? Yeah.
00:44:15 --> 00:44:19 He addressed all of that. Correct me if I'm wrong, because maybe I don't.
00:44:19 --> 00:44:21 He didn't call him out by name, but we all knew who he was talking about.
00:44:21 --> 00:44:24 Is that correct? Well, he called him out by name. Okay.
00:44:25 --> 00:44:28 Yeah, he made sure you knew who he was talking about. Okay, gotcha.
00:44:28 --> 00:44:30 Well, he addressed all of that.
00:44:31 --> 00:44:38 He talked about all of it. So, but, and Kevin, to his credit,
00:44:38 --> 00:44:41 the whole night, you know, And I haven't seen all the other ones.
00:44:41 --> 00:44:43 I've heard about some of the other stuff you said.
00:44:43 --> 00:44:47 I saw a little bit of Cheryl Underwood and a couple of other people.
00:44:48 --> 00:44:53 The last person that came out, I know you didn't want me to say,
00:44:53 --> 00:44:56 but I know you plan on finish watching, so I'm going to let you watch it.
00:44:56 --> 00:45:01 And for those of you who haven't watched it, there's a lot of people that come
00:45:01 --> 00:45:03 out. It's a long, it's long.
00:45:03 --> 00:45:06 A lot of people have a lot to say, so you might be fast-forwarding through some
00:45:06 --> 00:45:09 of it to get to the people that you want to hear.
00:45:10 --> 00:45:12 But they said a lot, Leonard.
00:45:13 --> 00:45:17 I mean, the 30 minutes I saw, they said a lot.
00:45:17 --> 00:45:20 They said a lot. That was only the first 30 minutes. I know,
00:45:20 --> 00:45:21 that's what I'm saying, man.
00:45:21 --> 00:45:26 And, you know, I think I'm sure, too, once comedians see what kind of flies
00:45:26 --> 00:45:30 and, like, people ain't getting irate, you know, I mean, like,
00:45:30 --> 00:45:32 I can imagine them going deeper with everything.
00:45:32 --> 00:45:35 Yeah, they went deep. They went deep.
00:45:36 --> 00:45:38 Now, Kevin is a smart guy.
00:45:39 --> 00:45:43 He said to himself, I'm going to let these people come on and roast me.
00:45:43 --> 00:45:47 We're going to do a deal with Netflix, and we're going to get all these people to watch.
00:45:47 --> 00:45:51 And I'm going to make all this money off of it. And that's what he did.
00:45:51 --> 00:45:54 He said, I don't care. He said, I'm going to be thick enough.
00:45:54 --> 00:45:58 My skin's going to be thick enough to take everything that they said.
00:45:58 --> 00:45:59 Because it's only words.
00:45:59 --> 00:46:03 You know, as long as nobody touches them, I'm sure he's fine. You know?
00:46:04 --> 00:46:09 And that's what he did. It was a money grab, I'm sure. I'm sure it was a money grab. I'm sure it was.
00:46:10 --> 00:46:15 But the stuff they said, whew, because you cringed at some of it.
00:46:15 --> 00:46:20 Yeah, yeah, it was definitely cringeworthy. Yeah, you're going to cringe at some of it.
00:46:21 --> 00:46:24 And a lot of it was true.
00:46:24 --> 00:46:30 You know, from what you know about him and so forth, a lot of it was true, I'm sure.
00:46:31 --> 00:46:34 And people were just saying what they really thought.
00:46:34 --> 00:46:40 But, you know, Kevin, you know, Kevin has a, everybody knows that Kevin has
00:46:40 --> 00:46:46 a very close relationship with Tiffany Haddish, right? You knew that, right?
00:46:46 --> 00:46:50 You know, Tiffany has always talked about how Kevin kind of helps,
00:46:50 --> 00:46:52 you know, save her career and so forth.
00:46:53 --> 00:46:59 And when she was sleeping in a car and stuff like that, Kevin gave her money for a place to stay.
00:47:00 --> 00:47:03 Tiffany's sitting there. She's laughing and so forth.
00:47:03 --> 00:47:06 She never said that she never got up and spoke she never said
00:47:06 --> 00:47:09 one word she was probably one of two
00:47:09 --> 00:47:12 people i forget who the other person was who was sitting there that didn't
00:47:12 --> 00:47:15 get up and spoke speak i don't know was she on stage or
00:47:15 --> 00:47:21 in the audience she was still on stage okay it's clearly visible to your left
00:47:21 --> 00:47:25 and then everything no let me ask you there was some people though that was
00:47:25 --> 00:47:28 that was covering their faces because they couldn't believe the stuff they said
00:47:28 --> 00:47:32 yeah now i mean do you have a problem with tiffany not speaking like do you
00:47:32 --> 00:47:34 feel like that i wonder I don't know why. Okay.
00:47:35 --> 00:47:38 Because everybody else has stuff to say. Why wouldn't Tiffany have something
00:47:38 --> 00:47:43 to say? Right. Now, was that out of respect or was that because.
00:47:44 --> 00:47:47 He probably said, hey, I don't want you speaking. Hmm.
00:47:48 --> 00:47:52 You know? I mean, but, you know, I feel like she would have gone as far as anybody
00:47:52 --> 00:47:54 else. You know what I mean? Like.
00:47:54 --> 00:47:59 Yeah, that's true. And we know she would because that's how she is.
00:48:00 --> 00:48:03 But that's why it was so interesting that she didn't speak.
00:48:04 --> 00:48:10 Yeah. So. But, you know, for those who haven't seen it, check it out.
00:48:11 --> 00:48:17 Give us your opinion. but you and I have to have another conversation after
00:48:17 --> 00:48:25 you see what Kat said okay now what Kat said is that on the whole video that you sent me via text?
00:48:25 --> 00:48:35 Yeah that whole video is what Kat said gotcha and how it ended okay that was the important thing,
00:48:36 --> 00:48:43 and he said this at the roast it was at the roast Yeah, he supposedly was a big surprise.
00:48:44 --> 00:48:49 They didn't, but sure, Kevin, I know Kevin had to approve all the people that was going to.
00:48:49 --> 00:48:52 Yeah, yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure, I'm sure.
00:48:52 --> 00:48:57 But I mean, I think it was a surprise to the audience, not to him, but to the audience.
00:48:58 --> 00:49:02 So, because they went crazy when he came out, you know? Yeah, so.
00:49:03 --> 00:49:10 So we'll leave that until we get a chance to see other things.
00:49:10 --> 00:49:14 I'm sure I've talked to people about it, and, you know, people thought,
00:49:14 --> 00:49:18 you know, it was a lot of funny moments, but a lot of people felt the same way
00:49:18 --> 00:49:23 that you and I kind of feel about, man, that's crazy, some of the stuff that was said,
00:49:24 --> 00:49:25 you know, it was.
00:49:26 --> 00:49:30 And these roasts have been going on for years. Every time you have a roast,
00:49:30 --> 00:49:32 you know, people come out and they talk about people.
00:49:32 --> 00:49:37 But this was probably the worst one I ever seen with the stuff that was said.
00:49:38 --> 00:49:40 But we'll see. We'll see. All right.
00:49:41 --> 00:49:46 I'm going to move on to this next story. Psychology says the people who reach
00:49:46 --> 00:49:49 midlife, and here, you're almost there, Leonard.
00:49:50 --> 00:49:52 You're almost there, okay? I'm just like, yeah, okay?
00:49:53 --> 00:49:57 When no close friends, we know you don't have any close friends.
00:49:59 --> 00:50:07 Are unlikable. They're often the ones who gave too much for too long to people who never gave back.
00:50:07 --> 00:50:13 And the quiet circle they live in now isn't a verdict on their character.
00:50:14 --> 00:50:19 So that's a lot right there. So let's get into the story. It says,
00:50:19 --> 00:50:21 The Myth of Unlikable Middle-Aged.
00:50:23 --> 00:50:29 Person, there's a story we tell about the person who arrives at 40-something with a quiet phone.
00:50:30 --> 00:50:33 We assume something must be wrong with them.
00:50:33 --> 00:50:40 Bad personality, difficult, probably picked fights, probably hard to love,
00:50:40 --> 00:50:42 probably did this to themselves.
00:50:43 --> 00:50:50 It's a comfortable, I'm sorry, It's a comforting story for the rest of us because
00:50:50 --> 00:50:55 it implies that if we're nice and warm and easy gone, we'll be surrounded forever.
00:50:56 --> 00:51:02 It also, in my experience, is mostly wrong.
00:51:02 --> 00:51:09 It says, the people I know who got to midlife within social circles are not,
00:51:09 --> 00:51:13 on average, less likable than the people with thick ones.
00:51:14 --> 00:51:22 They are often more generous, more attuned, better friends, hour for hour than
00:51:22 --> 00:51:25 the people who somehow always have a calendar.
00:51:26 --> 00:51:28 Okay, they're giving you some hope there, man. There you go.
00:51:29 --> 00:51:30 They're giving you some hope. Okay?
00:51:31 --> 00:51:34 What they hear isn't a defect. It's history.
00:51:35 --> 00:51:39 They were, for a long time, the one who text first,
00:51:40 --> 00:51:45 the one who organized the dinner, the one who flew in for the wedding when the
00:51:45 --> 00:51:51 favor was statistically never going to be returned.
00:51:51 --> 00:51:54 They held a lot of relationships up by themselves.
00:51:56 --> 00:52:02 Well, that don't sound like you at all. Let me see what else they're lying about
00:52:02 --> 00:52:06 here when it comes to 50-year-old people.
00:52:08 --> 00:52:15 So people are about to turn 50. They said years until one day their arms got
00:52:15 --> 00:52:17 tired. Okay, here we go. Here's the real deal here.
00:52:18 --> 00:52:25 What stopped initiating actually rebuilds. The mistake most over-givers make
00:52:25 --> 00:52:30 is make a mistake in their own effort for the relationship.
00:52:31 --> 00:52:34 If I'm calling you, planning the dinner, remembering your birthday,
00:52:35 --> 00:52:40 asking how your dad is doing, here we go, and you're showing up cheerfully,
00:52:41 --> 00:52:46 when I do all of that, we both feel we have a friendship.
00:52:46 --> 00:52:51 The receipts look great. It's only when one person stops carrying the whole
00:52:51 --> 00:52:57 thing that you find out whether there was ever a thing there at all.
00:52:58 --> 00:53:06 Researchers studying later life friendships call this the test of mutual initiative.
00:53:07 --> 00:53:12 A psychology today piece on the midlife friendship gap describes how some friendships
00:53:12 --> 00:53:16 fade slowly and others end acutely.
00:53:17 --> 00:53:22 And how these losses often sting as much as romantic breakups,
00:53:22 --> 00:53:29 even though we have no language for grieving them. There are no friend divorce songs.
00:53:29 --> 00:53:35 There are no friend funeral songs. The relationship just goes quiet,
00:53:35 --> 00:53:41 and you're left holding the question of what it ever was.
00:53:42 --> 00:53:47 The part isn't the present silence. It's what it does to the past.
00:53:47 --> 00:53:54 You start retroactively recoloring memories, the trip you planned,
00:53:54 --> 00:54:00 you paid for, the hospital visit, the night you stayed up on your phone.
00:54:01 --> 00:54:05 Were those mutual moments, or were you just running a one-person show with a
00:54:05 --> 00:54:08 cast that smiled and waved?
00:54:08 --> 00:54:12 It says, the heart that finally stopped knocking. I want to be precise about
00:54:12 --> 00:54:17 what's actually happened to people who have arrived in midlife with a small circle.
00:54:17 --> 00:54:22 It's not bitterness. It's not avoidance. It's not trust issues.
00:54:22 --> 00:54:25 It's the cheap therapy Instagram sense.
00:54:26 --> 00:54:30 It says that it's depletion plus learning.
00:54:31 --> 00:54:35 After enough years of investing in relationships that didn't return the investment,
00:54:35 --> 00:54:41 a nervous system updates its model. It stops generating the impulse to reach
00:54:41 --> 00:54:44 out, not because it's broken, but because it's accurate.
00:54:45 --> 00:54:51 The energy requires to maintain a friendship with someone who only shows up when you summon them.
00:54:51 --> 00:55:02 That's real energy taken from a real finite supply and the body keeps a tab.
00:55:02 --> 00:55:06 I recently watched a video that hits the nail on the head.
00:55:06 --> 00:55:13 It talks about the quiet giver, the one who is always there for others but never
00:55:13 --> 00:55:15 receives much in return.
00:55:15 --> 00:55:24 It helped me understand so many of us get to this point in life from a psychological view.
00:55:24 --> 00:55:30 If you relate to this article, I highly suggest giving it a watch.
00:55:31 --> 00:55:32 When I started reading this.
00:55:34 --> 00:55:38 I was saying, you know, so many people I know fall into this category.
00:55:39 --> 00:55:44 When you do get to a certain age, you do notice that things start to slow down.
00:55:44 --> 00:55:48 You don't have a bunch of people around you.
00:55:48 --> 00:55:54 And those people that do, are they really, is that real or is it something that's
00:55:54 --> 00:55:57 being forced? You know what I mean?
00:55:58 --> 00:56:03 So here you are. You're about to turn 50 soon. Right.
00:56:03 --> 00:56:09 So you heard what I just said in this article. And the experts are saying, you agree, disagree?
00:56:10 --> 00:56:12 What's your thoughts on it? So I actually disagree.
00:56:12 --> 00:56:15 You know, I feel like. Of course you do. Of course you do. Go ahead.
00:56:15 --> 00:56:19 Well, I mean, I'm only saying because some of the things that you said are often
00:56:19 --> 00:56:23 people who gave for too much for too long and never gave back, quiet circle.
00:56:24 --> 00:56:28 I feel like it's more like, one, it's like a been there, done that.
00:56:29 --> 00:56:32 And two, it's just, you know, other responsibilities.
00:56:33 --> 00:56:37 You know, so like I think about when I was more active and less active,
00:56:37 --> 00:56:40 they went out more active. Kids were young.
00:56:41 --> 00:56:45 You know, I was single and, you know, those two right there,
00:56:45 --> 00:56:53 the two biggest infinity stones out there, you know, to to kind of be more social, more active.
00:56:53 --> 00:57:00 But now it's like, Dave, these kids, they got something every day of the week, every afternoon.
00:57:00 --> 00:57:05 Dave, I'm actually surprised that they expect parents to attend all these things
00:57:05 --> 00:57:06 that start at three o'clock.
00:57:07 --> 00:57:09 Because, you know, back in the day, my dad didn't get off till six o'clock.
00:57:09 --> 00:57:16 If it was anything, even pickups or drop-offs, before 6 o'clock, he couldn't do it.
00:57:17 --> 00:57:21 You know what time I picked up my son from school today? What time? 2.30.
00:57:22 --> 00:57:26 I'm like, you know, so anyway, long story short, every day is something.
00:57:27 --> 00:57:29 So, you know, I think there was
00:57:29 --> 00:57:33 a point where I used to want to be everywhere and be seen and all that.
00:57:34 --> 00:57:37 And I don't think I'm at that point anymore. You know, like,
00:57:37 --> 00:57:43 I don't. Now, granted, I do want to be out more than I am, but I don't want
00:57:43 --> 00:57:46 to be everywhere every day at all times either.
00:57:47 --> 00:57:55 Well, I don't think the article is saying that you have to be everywhere every
00:57:55 --> 00:57:57 day and out there in them streets.
00:57:58 --> 00:58:03 But I think you are kind of saying some of the points that the thing was saying,
00:58:03 --> 00:58:08 because as you get older, you do tend to slow down. You do tend to detach yourself
00:58:08 --> 00:58:12 from certain things because you do have other focuses.
00:58:13 --> 00:58:17 Now, like in your case, you've been running with the kids.
00:58:18 --> 00:58:24 One kid's going to go away to school, so that'd be less running for you, a little less running.
00:58:24 --> 00:58:28 But still, you still have some running to do. Mm-hmm.
00:58:29 --> 00:58:35 But as far as your connections and the people that you, say,
00:58:35 --> 00:58:42 20 years ago, you were riding and dying with, you're not doing that anymore. Right.
00:58:43 --> 00:58:48 You know, even with some of the organizations, I mean, you and I have been talking
00:58:48 --> 00:58:51 over the last couple of weeks about certain organizations you've been tied to
00:58:51 --> 00:58:54 that you don't do anything with anymore.
00:58:54 --> 00:58:59 Now, even if it's just an online presence or even, you know,
00:59:00 --> 00:59:03 just correspondence-wise, you're not even doing that, you know?
00:59:03 --> 00:59:08 And I'm not saying you specifically, but I'm saying at a certain point,
00:59:08 --> 00:59:12 you get to that point where we all start saying to ourselves,
00:59:12 --> 00:59:18 well, that's not as important to me anymore or I don't feel like doing this
00:59:18 --> 00:59:20 anymore or whatever the case may be.
00:59:20 --> 00:59:26 Because time is very important to you and those moments to yourself become more
00:59:26 --> 00:59:29 important to you or those moments
00:59:29 --> 00:59:34 with your significant other become important to you if you have that.
00:59:34 --> 00:59:42 But then is it a bad thing that you cut yourself off that you make your circle small?
00:59:42 --> 00:59:47 I mean, I think there's benefits and deficits to everything.
00:59:47 --> 00:59:50 You know and and and and i think
00:59:50 --> 00:59:53 there's a sweet point in there too i don't know what it personally is
00:59:53 --> 00:59:56 but you know without you know
00:59:56 --> 01:00:00 having enough friends that you're social but not too many that you're overextending
01:00:00 --> 01:00:09 okay all right yeah i mean you know i was talking to i was talking to a guy
01:00:09 --> 01:00:14 at my job he grew up in my neighborhood when i was off when i was living in
01:00:14 --> 01:00:15 the projects back in the day.
01:00:15 --> 01:00:22 And this guy was a problem kid. He's younger than me. He's about four years younger than me.
01:00:22 --> 01:00:25 He was a problem kid. And he had this nickname,
01:00:26 --> 01:00:29 I believe his nickname was Tiddly Wink, believe it or not.
01:00:30 --> 01:00:35 Because he would be one way one moment and he would flip and be another way
01:00:35 --> 01:00:36 the next moment, you know.
01:00:37 --> 01:00:41 I see this guy now, he's so opposite of what he was when he was a kid.
01:00:42 --> 01:00:46 And so I was kidding him about that. And I said, well, what changed you?
01:00:46 --> 01:00:48 He said, man, I had to learn how to grow up.
01:00:48 --> 01:00:51 I had to learn how to become stable.
01:00:51 --> 01:00:58 I had to learn how to understand as opposed to assuming that this is what I wanted to do.
01:00:58 --> 01:01:03 He said, as I grew, as I get older, I understand more and more.
01:01:03 --> 01:01:08 And that's why you don't see that person that you saw when I was a kid,
01:01:09 --> 01:01:11 you know. And I thought that made a lot of sense.
01:01:11 --> 01:01:14 You know, the older you get, things change.
01:01:14 --> 01:01:17 You know, you start looking at things differently, you know.
01:01:17 --> 01:01:21 So as you turn, you know, the age you're about to turn, man,
01:01:21 --> 01:01:23 you know, you can use that a
01:01:23 --> 01:01:28 little bit as a crutch, but you can't use it always as a crutch, you know.
01:01:29 --> 01:01:35 So, I mean, after all, I mean, you know, you know, put you down as a friend
01:01:35 --> 01:01:39 for reference sake anyway.
01:01:40 --> 01:01:43 So, I mean, I'm older and I'm older than you.
01:01:43 --> 01:01:50 So keep paying me that bribe money and be that reference you need. There you go. Okay.
01:01:51 --> 01:01:54 All right. But you guys, you guys tell us what you think about that.
01:01:55 --> 01:02:01 I mean, it's just the author of the story, correct? as far as the way that psychology
01:02:01 --> 01:02:06 is looking at it, or do you think it's something different? So let us know.
01:02:06 --> 01:02:10 All right, that brings us to Leonard's favorite part of the show,
01:02:10 --> 01:02:13 Dave's Corner. So I got a question for you today.
01:02:15 --> 01:02:20 Since we just talked about what we just talked about, this kind of fits right in.
01:02:21 --> 01:02:27 If you can go back to when you were 18 years old And you told your 18-year-old
01:02:27 --> 01:02:36 self three things that you considered to be awesome about living life in the year 2026.
01:02:37 --> 01:02:41 What three things do you think you would tell your 18-year-old self?
01:02:42 --> 01:02:45 That he would find impressive. Okay.
01:02:45 --> 01:02:48 And you know, Dave, I just looked at the question as you're reading it and I
01:02:48 --> 01:02:50 already know my three answers.
01:02:50 --> 01:02:54 Oh, that's, that's, yeah. Believe me, folks, this is a, you know,
01:02:54 --> 01:02:57 this doesn't happen that often. So, okay, let's go. So, I'm pleased.
01:02:57 --> 01:03:02 So, one is, one would be, I would tell them that I have kids,
01:03:02 --> 01:03:06 you know, and, you know, cause it's like, you know, growing,
01:03:06 --> 01:03:10 you know, when you're young, you can't even fathom having a child or,
01:03:10 --> 01:03:13 you know, you know 18 year old you don't know so i
01:03:13 --> 01:03:16 mean i think that's one of the the greatest things
01:03:16 --> 01:03:20 to be able to have a down line slash leave
01:03:20 --> 01:03:23 leave a legacy okay so that's
01:03:23 --> 01:03:26 one next i would be like
01:03:26 --> 01:03:31 there's this thing called the cell phone man
01:03:31 --> 01:03:34 this cell phone is everything you need
01:03:34 --> 01:03:37 you can watch movies play games do
01:03:37 --> 01:03:41 research write papers you know like they
01:03:41 --> 01:03:44 i mean play music make music
01:03:44 --> 01:03:47 make videos you know i
01:03:47 --> 01:03:52 mean they i i can't think of anything you can't do on this cell phone right
01:03:52 --> 01:03:58 that's true that is true yeah so i mean i would tell myself that and then the
01:03:58 --> 01:04:05 last thing I would tell myself that I think that I would find impressive at 18 is I'd be like,
01:04:05 --> 01:04:07 I don't, I don't clock in and out of a job.
01:04:08 --> 01:04:12 Cause, cause you, you, you know, when I was 18, go to college,
01:04:12 --> 01:04:15 get a good job, work a nine to five for 30 years.
01:04:16 --> 01:04:21 And so, I mean, I think I would be impressed with myself not having to go to a job.
01:04:21 --> 01:04:26 And Dave, you know, the last time I had a nine-to-five is when I worked at the
01:04:26 --> 01:04:27 school. School district.
01:04:27 --> 01:04:30 That's been a while now. Yeah, that was 2015.
01:04:30 --> 01:04:33 I've not had a nine-to- Hold on. Have I had a part-time?
01:04:34 --> 01:04:38 No. Not a part-time where I clocked hours.
01:04:39 --> 01:04:45 Yeah, so, I mean, I think my 18-year-old self would, and Dave,
01:04:45 --> 01:04:48 I'm still surviving, barely, but surviving.
01:04:48 --> 01:04:53 So, I think that would be pretty cool to tell myself.
01:04:54 --> 01:04:58 Okay, all right. Those are definitely good ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:04:58 --> 01:05:06 What about you? If you could go back to when you were 18 years old and you told 18-year-old David C.
01:05:06 --> 01:05:15 Coker three things that you would consider to be awesome about living in this year of 2026,
01:05:15 --> 01:05:21 what three things do you think you would tell yourself that your 18-year-old
01:05:21 --> 01:05:23 self would find interesting or impressive?
01:05:24 --> 01:05:29 Well, first of all, I would tell myself that my friend don't know what my middle initial is.
01:05:30 --> 01:05:32 But anyway. Oh, Pete. I'm sorry, Pete.
01:05:33 --> 01:05:36 I'm sorry, Peter. Yeah.
01:05:38 --> 01:05:45 Peter. Anyway. So the very first thing, and I kind of share with something you
01:05:45 --> 01:05:52 said already, is that I would say, you know the cartoon you watch, The Jetsons?
01:05:53 --> 01:05:57 I said everything you see on the Jets actually has happened in,
01:05:59 --> 01:06:03 2026 they got phones that you can talk to each other and look at each other
01:06:03 --> 01:06:10 at the same time they got watches that you can talk to each other on they got cars that,
01:06:10 --> 01:06:17 drive themselves the only thing they're working on cars that fly now and you know and,
01:06:18 --> 01:06:20 there's a lot of there's a lot of.
01:06:22 --> 01:06:27 There's a lot of things that are worked by electronic, you know,
01:06:27 --> 01:06:30 by voice command and so forth.
01:06:30 --> 01:06:36 I said, so basically, the Jetsons is telling us about 2026.
01:06:37 --> 01:06:41 If you look at everything that the Jetsons is doing. So I said,
01:06:42 --> 01:06:45 so pay attention to the Jetsons.
01:06:45 --> 01:06:47 That's what I would tell them. Pay attention to the Jetsons.
01:06:48 --> 01:06:52 You're going to learn a lot from that. The other thing is what I would tell
01:06:52 --> 01:07:00 was, man, you made me forget the second thing because I was saving the third thing for less.
01:07:00 --> 01:07:04 The second thing was I would talk about, oh, I know what it was,
01:07:04 --> 01:07:09 cars that drive themselves, that you can get in a car.
01:07:10 --> 01:07:15 You send where you want it to go and everything.
01:07:16 --> 01:07:22 And program into the car, you sit in the back seat of the car or you can sit
01:07:22 --> 01:07:25 in the front seat and that car will take you where you want to go.
01:07:27 --> 01:07:30 Unbelievable. Agreed. Yeah.
01:07:31 --> 01:07:37 And the last thing is, we actually had a black president. Oh, true.
01:07:39 --> 01:07:44 Now, you imagine the reaction I would get from my 18-year-old self when I told them that.
01:07:45 --> 01:07:49 We actually had a black president. Who was the president when you were 18,
01:07:49 --> 01:07:52 what did you think? Wait, let me see, 18.
01:07:53 --> 01:07:57 That would have been Reagan. Ford or Reagan?
01:07:58 --> 01:08:02 Ford or Reagan. Hold on. What year were you 18? Ford was 76.
01:08:03 --> 01:08:10 Reagan? What year did you graduate high school? 78. Would have been Reagan, right?
01:08:11 --> 01:08:17 Carter. Oh, Jimmy Carter. That's right. He came in in 76. That's right. Yeah, Carter came in 76.
01:08:18 --> 01:08:20 So, yeah, Jimmy Carter.
01:08:20 --> 01:08:23 Yeah, that's right. I forgot about that.
01:08:23 --> 01:08:26 Reagan came in after him, right? Yeah.
01:08:27 --> 01:08:35 So yeah so 1976 we definitely wouldn't have been thinking about a black president yeah for sure,
01:08:36 --> 01:08:42 so but yeah so i would definitely tell her hey it happened once it could happen again you know so,
01:08:43 --> 01:08:49 so that's probably the things i would i would tell my 18 year old so you know
01:08:49 --> 01:08:53 i can't tell them that um you know about the kids thing like you because i actually
01:08:53 --> 01:08:55 had somebody pregnant at 18.
01:08:56 --> 01:08:59 Okay okay somebody was moving somebody was
01:08:59 --> 01:09:02 moving and shaking the bacon yeah my oldest my
01:09:02 --> 01:09:10 oldest child was born when i was 19 gotcha yeah so so but yeah those are the
01:09:10 --> 01:09:17 things i think i would tell my 18 year old so so yeah so you guys tell us what
01:09:17 --> 01:09:20 you think when you would tell your 18 year self.
01:09:20 --> 01:09:23 I'm pretty sure there's a lot of interesting answers out there.
01:09:23 --> 01:09:26 I'm almost positive there's a lot of interesting answers.
01:09:27 --> 01:09:31 All right. I guess that brings us to the end of this show.
01:09:32 --> 01:09:37 Once again, we always appreciate you guys taking the time to listen to us.
01:09:38 --> 01:09:42 Len, do you want to add anything before we sign off? Nope. I hope everyone has
01:09:42 --> 01:09:44 a good week. Dave, why don't you tell them who we have on next week?
01:09:45 --> 01:09:48 Sherry Dorsey. We're going to have on next week.
01:09:49 --> 01:09:54 And for you guys, or Sherry Dorsey Walker, let me put her whole name out there.
01:09:56 --> 01:10:02 She ran for Lieutenant Governor recently. I call her Miss Photo Op because she's everywhere.
01:10:03 --> 01:10:08 So join us next week. I'm sure we'll have a great show.
01:10:08 --> 01:10:13 And I'm sure you guys will enjoy her. For those who already know her, know you will enjoy.
01:10:14 --> 01:10:17 For those who are going to hear it for the first time, I'm sure it's going to
01:10:17 --> 01:10:19 be an awesome show. Okay?
01:10:21 --> 01:10:25 Anything else? I think that's it. And keep in mind, we got the Black Music Festival
01:10:25 --> 01:10:28 coming up at the D&R Campground.
01:10:29 --> 01:10:30 We'll hope to have.
01:10:31 --> 01:10:39 Mr. Sam Bailey on coming up to, who is the mastermind behind the Black Music Festival.
01:10:39 --> 01:10:45 Guys, if you have never been to the Black Music Festival, you guys do not know what you're missing.
01:10:45 --> 01:10:48 And hopefully you'll get there this year. I remember last year,
01:10:48 --> 01:10:53 man, it was pouring down rain when it started, but that didn't deter anybody.
01:10:54 --> 01:10:57 Right. And everybody had a ball down there last year.
01:10:57 --> 01:11:00 So I'm telling you, this is going to be the biggest one yet.
01:11:00 --> 01:11:06 So definitely if you haven't gotten tickets you want to go to you have a link on your website right,
01:11:07 --> 01:11:10 yes yeah okay but um if
01:11:10 --> 01:11:13 they google just delaware black music fest
01:11:13 --> 01:11:16 yeah you'll find it's everywhere believe me it's
01:11:16 --> 01:11:19 gonna pop up if you if you google it it's gonna pop up
01:11:19 --> 01:11:26 it's out there believe me and it's definitely and it's three days you guys definitely
01:11:26 --> 01:11:31 want to come down believe me Saturday is the big day though so check out the
01:11:31 --> 01:11:37 lineup for Saturday Best Kept Soul our DJ our partner Mr.
01:11:38 --> 01:11:43 DJ Tim Dog and a lot of you like jazz Tony Smith there's just going to be a
01:11:43 --> 01:11:48 lot of people there I mean a lot of bands a lot of performances so come on down
01:11:48 --> 01:11:56 hang out well and like I said you'll hear more about that as in the next week or two okay Yeah.
01:11:56 --> 01:12:01 All right, guys. Thank you for taking the time to listen to us and we will be
01:12:01 --> 01:12:03 talking to you again next week.
01:12:12 --> 01:12:16 Tune in next week, ladies and gentlemen, for another edition of News and Trends
01:12:16 --> 01:12:18 with your hosts, Dave and Lynn.