Election Day & 6-Year Anniversary: Dave & Len Break It Down

Election Day & 6-Year Anniversary: Dave & Len Break It Down

On their 6th anniversary episode airing on Election Day, hosts Dave Coker and Leonard Young welcome listeners and urge civic participation while summarizing the top stories of the day.

Highlights include a Burger King employee filmed in blackface, a Delaware court ruling ordering Faith Evans to pay $12.5M to The Notorious B.I.G.'s family trust, concerns about salon chemical exposure and a local Halloween shooting. The hosts offer perspective, call for accountability, and encourage listeners to stay informed.

The episode closes with a reminder to vote and tune in next week for more News and Trends.


00:14 --> 00:18 All right, y'all, get ready for another edition of
00:18 --> 00:21 News and Trends with your host Dave
00:22 --> 00:22 and Lynn.
00:32 --> 00:35 Welcome, welcome, welcome to the News and Trends with Dave and Len.
00:35 --> 00:39 This is one of your hosts, Mr. Dave Coker, proprietor of Dave Mark
00:39 --> 00:43 Inc., promoter, event planner, and all-around
00:43 --> 00:46 good guy. Just wanted to remind everyone that
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01:04 --> 01:08 you happen to miss us on our night of Tuesday
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01:19 --> 01:22 On Saturday mornings at 10 AM,
01:23 --> 01:26 and you can always listen to us with DJ
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01:37 --> 01:41 I'm hanging out with my partner Mr. Leonard Young. What's going on, sir? Hey Dave,
01:41 --> 01:45 everything is good. This is Leonard Young, CEO of National Black
01:45 --> 01:48 Guide. Delawareblack.com, Black media
01:49 --> 01:51 specialist, all-around good guy. How goes it, Dave?
01:54 --> 01:57 Uh, it's going, man. You know, uh, it is Election
01:57 --> 02:01 Day, and we hope everybody, if you didn't get a chance to
02:02 --> 02:04 do the early voting, that you got a chance to get out there,
02:05 --> 02:09 uh, and vote today. If you're still out there in
02:09 --> 02:12 these streets trying to get your voting done, that's great. Um,
02:13 --> 02:17 we need every vote possible to count, uh, because we
02:17 --> 02:21 already know the last couple of elections, it's always some mess behind it.
02:21 --> 02:24 So, uh, but we need to make sure this
02:24 --> 02:28 one counts. So, um, so hopefully everybody is
02:28 --> 02:30 out there doing their part if they haven't already done it.
02:33 --> 02:36 Um, also wanted to say— oh, go ahead. Oh, I,
02:36 --> 02:39 I was gonna say, I, I I actually forgot I was going to say,
02:39 --> 02:41 did you vote today? Of course I know you would have, but I forgot.
02:42 --> 02:43 Yeah, I wouldn't have said all of that. I wouldn't have said I didn't do
02:44 --> 02:46 it today. Uh, you know, I got a chance to do it early, so,
02:47 --> 02:50 you know, so, but, um, I'm, you know, I just want
02:51 --> 02:54 to say, people, this is very important because we just got too much
02:55 --> 02:58 craziness going on and we need to fix some things. And this
02:59 --> 03:02 is a chance to get that done for those who want to get it
03:03 --> 03:05 fixed. And everyone should want to get it fixed.
03:06 --> 03:09 So also, this also turns—
03:10 --> 03:14 it turns out to be a dual, um, day to
03:14 --> 03:17 celebrate, hopefully, um, if we get the
03:18 --> 03:21 things done we need to get done later on with the election.
03:22 --> 03:25 Today happens to be the exact day 6 years
03:26 --> 03:29 ago we started this podcast. Get out of here.
03:30 --> 03:33 Yes. So I guess that must have been—
03:34 --> 03:37 there must have been a leap year in there because normally, you know, we would
03:38 --> 03:40 have had to do 7 years to be the exact day because, you know,
03:40 --> 03:44 they switch around the week. Only you would think about that.
03:44 --> 03:47 But anyway, uh, yeah, David,
03:47 --> 03:50 this engineering mind over here. Yeah, I know.
03:51 --> 03:54 There you go. Uh, that's why you're a podcast right
03:55 --> 03:58 now. Uh, so We have,
03:59 --> 04:02 we have survived all this time as we start our 6th
04:02 --> 04:07 year. And so I want to say
04:07 --> 04:10 thank you all who have been faithful listeners and for all the new listeners that
04:10 --> 04:14 we've gotten over the years and supporters and people
04:14 --> 04:17 who, even if you listen just once or a couple of times,
04:17 --> 04:20 you know, you— we appreciate each and every one of you.
04:21 --> 04:24 And, you know, just want to say thank you for, uh,
04:25 --> 04:28 allowing us to bend your ear on some of the things that we
04:29 --> 04:32 talk about and give you our perspective on those things.
04:32 --> 04:35 And, um, you know, we really appreciate it.
04:36 --> 04:40 Len, you want to add anything? No, I mean, you know, Dave, just like
04:40 --> 04:43 we always hear people say, you know, Tuesdays and
04:44 --> 04:47 throughout the week, you can be anywhere listening to anything. There are a lot of
04:47 --> 04:51 distractions— social media, kids, family. So,
04:51 --> 04:54 you know, just taking the effort to tune in to us when you can.
04:55 --> 04:58 You know, we definitely appreciate it. And, you know, hopefully you can
04:59 --> 05:03 ride with us as we go to the next transition.
05:03 --> 05:06 You know, soon I'll be taking over the podcast and it'll just
05:07 --> 05:10 be News with Lynn. No, I'm just joking. But, uh, hopefully you can just,
05:10 --> 05:14 you know, transition with us. And if you ever have any comments or feedback,
05:15 --> 05:18 don't text me because I may not answer, but you can text Dave and he,
05:18 --> 05:21 and he, he will be faithful in his response.
05:22 --> 05:25 Yes, there you go. It's always, uh, yeah,
05:26 --> 05:29 you know, because after all, he is the silent partner. So, you know,
05:30 --> 05:33 he's the one out there winning all the awards while I do all the work.
05:33 --> 05:36 Okay, so I'm just saying, you know, so, but,
05:36 --> 05:39 um, but I wanna once again say thank
05:40 --> 05:43 you. And well, we want to say thank you, and we really appreciate you.
05:43 --> 05:47 So, all right, so We're
05:47 --> 05:51 going to go ahead and get started with show number
05:51 --> 05:54 1 of year number 6. Okay,
05:55 --> 05:58 and I know some of you have probably heard the story by now,
05:58 --> 06:02 um, um, since we just
06:02 --> 06:05 got finished with Halloween. And, um, speaking of Halloween,
06:05 --> 06:08 man, there was a lot of craziness that went on during Halloween,
06:08 --> 06:12 um, all over the United States. You know,
06:12 --> 06:15 we had a lot of things even here in Newark, Delaware.
06:15 --> 06:19 Everywhere. So they're still finding— I heard they found a
06:19 --> 06:23 7th person today that was injured in this shooting down on Main Street.
06:24 --> 06:27 So, um, you know, prayers go
06:27 --> 06:31 out to those, um, who were, you know,
06:32 --> 06:35 who were victims in that situation. I know there was one life
06:36 --> 06:39 lost and there's another one in serious condition. Uh,
06:40 --> 06:44 um, Um, I'm in critical condition and one in serious condition.
06:45 --> 06:47 So just prayers out to those people. And, um,
06:48 --> 06:52 you know, we got to figure out how to get a handle on
06:52 --> 06:57 this violence that's going on, you know. So, but going
06:57 --> 07:01 back to the story, uh, so there
07:02 --> 07:05 was this— the story was about a blackface
07:06 --> 07:09 costume is not acceptable. And I know some of you
07:10 --> 07:13 people probably have heard this story, but for those of you that haven't,
07:13 --> 07:15 this is what is— what the story is all about.
07:16 --> 07:20 Said Burger King is under fire after employee
07:20 --> 07:24 wore blatant blackface while working the drive-through on
07:24 --> 07:28 Halloween, and now the fast food chain is speaking
07:28 --> 07:34 out. The video player is currently playing
07:34 --> 07:38 an ad. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm ad-libbing
07:38 --> 07:41 there. Well, matter of fact, yeah, I know I'm, I'm talking
07:41 --> 07:45 ahead of myself. Matter of fact, I want you to play the video and
07:45 --> 07:48 so people— and you guys can hear the audio, what happened.
07:51 --> 07:54 Yo, I just asked this lady what she was today. Can you tell them what
07:54 --> 07:58 you told me? I'm just watching it. And I asked you what You
07:59 --> 08:01 said, did I think it was okay? And what was your response? As long as
08:01 --> 08:04 you have a good heart. And so your intentions is good, so that means
08:05 --> 08:07 you, you what, Black Lives Matter?
08:09 --> 08:12 Well, no, I just want to be Black. Why would you want
08:13 --> 08:15 to be Black? Do you know the struggles that we go through as Black people?
08:18 --> 08:20 All right, sorry, you make me laugh. Sorry. No, yes, yes I do. Oh,
08:20 --> 08:22 I mean, no I don't. No I don't. No I don't.
08:26 --> 08:29 Unbelievable. So what was going
08:29 --> 08:32 on there? There was a lady who came through the drive-through, a Black lady.
08:33 --> 08:37 The person who was working the drive-through was a white woman,
08:37 --> 08:40 and she had on Black makeup,
08:40 --> 08:44 brown— well, it was really like brownish color all
08:44 --> 08:48 over her face. And that's when the
08:48 --> 08:51 conversation happened that you just heard.
08:52 --> 08:56 Um, so, um, and she
08:56 --> 09:00 didn't really seem to understand. If you listen to the video, you can tell that
09:00 --> 09:03 she wasn't really cognizant
09:03 --> 09:07 of everything that was going on with the costume that she chose
09:07 --> 09:10 to wear and so forth. Um,
09:12 --> 09:16 so Burger King is
09:17 --> 09:20 now responding to online outrage over the clip,
09:21 --> 09:25 the video that went viral, saying in a
09:25 --> 09:30 statement, we are aware of the video and the matter was
09:30 --> 09:33 very serious. The statement continues
09:33 --> 09:35 that the franchise of this location,
09:37 --> 09:41 uh, the franchisee I should say, of this
09:41 --> 09:44 location is addressing the situation with his team
09:44 --> 09:48 his manager and team members to ensure everyone involved
09:49 --> 09:52 understands why this is not acceptable and won't happen again.
09:52 --> 09:56 So Burger King hasn't confirmed the location where it is or where it
09:56 --> 10:00 happened, but it was somewhere in Minnesota, um, in a town
10:00 --> 10:04 in Minnesota. And it's unclear if the employee faced
10:05 --> 10:07 disciplinary action. Now,
10:09 --> 10:13 what's so crazy is that when you look at this
10:13 --> 10:16 video, the girl didn't
10:17 --> 10:20 seem to be fazed by the fact that she
10:20 --> 10:24 was doing something that she shouldn't have been doing. And I don't think she knows
10:24 --> 10:27 the history around blackface.
10:28 --> 10:32 And that's all she had. It was just like back in the minstrel shows with
10:32 --> 10:35 the blackface. That's all she had. She had the Burger King outfit on, but she
10:36 --> 10:40 just had her face painting.
10:41 --> 10:44 Um, and then to respond the way she did, saying that she wanted
10:45 --> 10:48 to be Black, is really crazy because,
10:49 --> 10:52 you know, um, putting blackface
10:53 --> 10:56 on your face doesn't make you that way. Um,
10:57 --> 11:01 with all that's going on in the world today, and she was
11:01 --> 11:04 not I mean, she didn't look like she was super, super, super young.
11:05 --> 11:07 I mean, I'm sure she was. I know she was young, but I mean,
11:07 --> 11:10 it seemed like she should have known better. Or the fact that
11:11 --> 11:14 Burger King employers who employ
11:14 --> 11:18 her allowed her to work the drive-through window
11:18 --> 11:21 where everybody can see her with that makeup on. First of all,
11:22 --> 11:25 first of all, she should have been sent home as soon as she walked in
11:25 --> 11:29 there with that on. So what does that say about
11:29 --> 11:33 everything that's going on there? What do you think
11:33 --> 11:36 about all of this? So Dave, you know, when I saw the video, I'm not
11:37 --> 11:40 gonna lie, she was giving me special needs.
11:42 --> 11:46 You know, like something, something didn't seem right. And I'm thinking she
11:47 --> 11:50 came in there— I mean, this is my hypothesis— she
11:51 --> 11:55 either came in there special needs or she came in there And I
11:55 --> 11:59 think people kind of, um, played her up
11:59 --> 12:02 to do what she did, the blackface, to kind
12:03 --> 12:06 of, you know, laugh and chuckle about. Because even when she was answering the questions,
12:06 --> 12:09 like, she just didn't seem like she was in her right mind. I mean,
12:10 --> 12:13 I'm, I'm, I'm not sure, you know, we only saw a little clip
12:14 --> 12:17 of it, but she just didn't seem like she knew what
12:18 --> 12:20 she was doing or saying, to be honest, to me.
12:23 --> 12:26 Yes, no. Um, okay, do I know?
12:26 --> 12:29 Yes, no, I, I don't, but I do, you know what I mean? I don't
12:29 --> 12:33 know, it's just weird. Do you get the feeling that it could have
12:33 --> 12:36 been a possibility that the people who worked there put her up to it?
12:36 --> 12:40 Yeah, yeah, that, that— I mean, not for sure, but yes. Could I see
12:40 --> 12:44 something like that happening? Yeah, because I mean, Dave, think about it,
12:44 --> 12:47 even if she went in there with blackface, right?
12:50 --> 12:54 Dave, she's working the drive-through, you know. It's not like she's back there making the
12:54 --> 12:59 fries. Yeah, she's working the drive-through. So everybody
12:59 --> 13:03 working in that restaurant at the time would
13:04 --> 13:06 have to know, you know what I mean? So like, you know, it's not like
13:06 --> 13:10 she snuck by and she's a janitor and she working in the back behind the
13:10 --> 13:12 scenes. She's public-facing.
13:13 --> 13:17 And so, I mean, I— with that said, I put the onus on everybody
13:17 --> 13:21 in that restaurant. So that's why I'm like, okay, how, you know,
13:21 --> 13:24 how could they let her do this? And that's
13:24 --> 13:28 why in my mind I feel like she's special needs, because just the way she
13:28 --> 13:31 answered the questions didn't give me fully, fully aware.
13:34 --> 13:38 Um, do you think that, um, maybe this
13:38 --> 13:41 town where this place was Do you
13:42 --> 13:45 think maybe it might have been a rural area that they don't
13:46 --> 13:50 deal with a lot of Black people? Maybe that, that could even happen. Or do
13:51 --> 13:54 you think that these people that probably work with her, like you said,
13:54 --> 13:58 maybe put her up to it and then wanted
13:58 --> 14:02 to see the reaction that was going to happen with her working that window?
14:02 --> 14:06 Because that woman obviously was Black that pulled up
14:06 --> 14:10 and Thank God it wasn't, you know, a sister sister,
14:10 --> 14:13 a sister girl, you know, meaning that they weren't gonna pull her through
14:14 --> 14:18 the drive-through, you know, because that could have
14:18 --> 14:21 possibly happened with the wrong person, you know what I mean?
14:22 --> 14:25 Yeah, I mean, because we know how that goes. Yeah, I mean, to be honest,
14:25 --> 14:29 I, I think she's not right, and I think she was taken advantage of.
14:30 --> 14:33 I mean, that, you know, I mean, we'll, we'll never know.
14:36 --> 14:37 Yeah, well, um,
14:40 --> 14:43 and then what— and another reason it makes me think that it was a rural
14:43 --> 14:46 area and that, you know, maybe it was— and I could
14:46 --> 14:49 be wrong— a predominantly white area,
14:50 --> 14:52 because what did they not say happened?
14:54 --> 14:56 She got— she— they didn't say she got fired.
14:58 --> 15:02 So They just said that they were going to talk to everybody
15:03 --> 15:06 and so forth and so forth, but nobody got fired over
15:07 --> 15:10 it apparently. And, and, um, and I
15:11 --> 15:15 know I kind of checked on the story as recent as this morning and
15:15 --> 15:19 I still hadn't seen anybody been fired, you know. Now if
15:19 --> 15:23 anybody should be fired, it should start from the top. The managers
15:23 --> 15:26 should be fired. Yeah, I agree with that. Okay. And,
15:26 --> 15:30 and then who— of course the, the person that did it
15:30 --> 15:34 should have been fired. And there's a number of people that should have
15:34 --> 15:38 been fired. Whoever was working that shift that day should have been questioned to
15:38 --> 15:41 find out what— why they let that girl go to that window like that.
15:41 --> 15:44 Yeah, okay, okay. So,
15:45 --> 15:48 but, uh, and, you know, um,
15:50 --> 15:53 they also have to worry about lawsuits because, you know,
15:53 --> 15:56 you know, somebody— you know, people are quick to
15:56 --> 16:00 file lawsuits nowadays for all types of reasons. All somebody
16:00 --> 16:04 has to do is do something to say it's an insensitivity type lawsuit
16:05 --> 16:08 and somebody could get some money out of it. Yeah, you know, so,
16:09 --> 16:12 so, but I'm sure the story is not over with.
16:12 --> 16:15 I'm sure we'll hear more about it, but I just thought
16:16 --> 16:19 it was interesting because Halloween is,
16:19 --> 16:23 is really different now. Um, it's not about
16:23 --> 16:26 kids going out and getting candy from the neighbors and going
16:27 --> 16:30 around asking, saying trick-or-treat, because Did you guys
16:30 --> 16:34 give out candy? No, because, you know, I— we had that part
16:34 --> 16:38 with Halloween party at the campground. Oh yeah, right. And a lot of people said
16:38 --> 16:41 they didn't give out candy this year, and then the candy was very expensive,
16:41 --> 16:45 you know. Uh, they said a bag of candy, the big bag
16:45 --> 16:49 of candy that you would have paid $12 for last year was $25
16:49 --> 16:53 this year. Damn. Yeah, so yeah,
16:54 --> 16:57 so that makes all the difference in the world. So, um,
16:57 --> 16:59 nowadays, you know, um,
17:02 --> 17:05 you're only going to have certain areas that are going to give out candy and
17:05 --> 17:09 be successful at it. And, and, you know, the kids
17:09 --> 17:12 aren't even worried about the trick-or-treating aspect of it really anymore,
17:13 --> 17:17 you know. So it's going to be interesting,
17:17 --> 17:21 um, to see how this story plays out. So just wanted to bring
17:21 --> 17:25 that particular story up. Okay, we're gonna move on to our next story.
17:27 --> 17:30 This has become a pretty big story. Uh, I know
17:31 --> 17:35 you had it on your Delaware Black website as well.
17:37 --> 17:39 Um, you know, I came across the story yesterday.
17:40 --> 17:44 Um, and this is
17:45 --> 17:49 Faith Evans loses battle and now owes $12.5
17:49 --> 17:53 million to rapper Biggie's mom's estate.
17:54 --> 17:58 It's a singer, Faith Evans, who was once married to the late rapper The
17:59 --> 18:02 Notorious B.I.G., has lost a legal battle
18:03 --> 18:06 over $12.5 million in unpaid
18:07 --> 18:11 distributions owed to his mother's trust. A Delaware
18:12 --> 18:15 judge— oh, you know what, I did not realize it was a Delaware
18:16 --> 18:19 judge. Yeah, that, that's why I was on. So you didn't even take a look
18:19 --> 18:22 at our post, Dave? Yeah, because I read something else and
18:23 --> 18:27 I didn't, I didn't see that part. Okay. Ruled that the Valetta Wallace,
18:28 --> 18:31 um, revoke— I can't,
18:31 --> 18:34 I can't read all this stuff, but I can't get that word out.
18:36 --> 18:39 The Valetta Wallace— what
18:39 --> 18:42 is— how's that pronounced? Valetta Wallace? What you mean?
18:43 --> 18:43 Um,
18:43 --> 18:46 R-E-V-O-C-A-B-L-E.
18:47 --> 18:51 Revocable. Revocable. I've never— I don't
18:51 --> 18:54 think I've ever seen that word. Anyway, trust. Okay,
18:54 --> 18:59 y'all got me on that one. Okay, it's entitled to the
19:00 --> 19:04 full amount plus interest.
19:07 --> 19:10 Um, says rejecting Evans' attempt to withhold most of
19:11 --> 19:14 the money while a separate family dispute continues.
19:15 --> 19:17 In October 27th decision,
19:18 --> 19:21 Delaware Court of Chancery Judge Kathleen St.
19:21 --> 19:26 McCormick ordered Notorious B.I.G. LLC to
19:26 --> 19:29 pay the trust of $12.
19:35 --> 19:39 Um, Evans manages
19:39 --> 19:42 the company which controls the intellectual property
19:43 --> 19:46 rights to Biggie's music and other assets. Let me
19:47 --> 19:50 stop here. It's funny that everything was here,
19:50 --> 19:54 you know, and that there was a, you know, there's a company
19:54 --> 19:57 here with the trust and so forth. Do you know Delaware?
19:58 --> 20:01 How many, how many, how many businesses do you think Delaware
20:01 --> 20:05 has? Oh, hundreds of thousands. This is
20:05 --> 20:09 the craziest thing, you know, and it's the— I
20:10 --> 20:13 think it's the, the number one state when it comes to that, you know.
20:14 --> 20:17 So all of them set up here, I guess, because of the
20:18 --> 20:21 tax situation. Well, that's what most of them do it for anyway.
20:23 --> 20:26 It said Evans manages the company which controls
20:26 --> 20:30 the intellectual property rights to to Biggie's music
20:30 --> 20:34 and other aspects. Uh, according to Complex,
20:36 --> 20:39 the judge also ruled that interest must be added to
20:40 --> 20:44 the unpaid distributions dating back to when each payment
20:44 --> 20:48 was originally made. The dispute follows the death of Aletta Wallace
20:49 --> 20:52 in February, uh, of 2025.
20:56 --> 21:00 Her will left her estate to Evans,
21:00 --> 21:03 refused to recognize the trust as a member of the
21:03 --> 21:06 LLC entitled to receive distributions.
21:07 --> 21:11 Wayne Burroughs, representing the trust, filed a lawsuit to recover the
21:11 --> 21:15 money. Although the trust did not officially become a member of the company until December
21:15 --> 21:19 2025, the judge ruled that it was still entitled to
21:19 --> 21:22 the distributing distributions dating back to Wallace's death.
21:23 --> 21:24 Um,
21:27 --> 21:28 they said that, uh,
21:31 --> 21:33 Teyana Wallace and Christopher Jordan Wallace,
21:35 --> 21:38 who is also known as CJ, which is Biggie's,
21:38 --> 21:42 um, daughter and son, um, that arrangement
21:43 --> 21:47 gave each of the 4 parties, uh, a 25% share
21:47 --> 21:50 of the company's distribution. So The 4
21:50 --> 21:54 of them were to split those shares. The financial dispute
21:54 --> 21:58 gained attention when Primary Wave struck
21:59 --> 22:02 a 2025 deal for a stake in Biggie's
22:02 --> 22:05 music catalog and relate— and related rights,
22:05 --> 22:08 bringing additional proceeds into question.
22:09 --> 22:15 Evans and the company argued that the trust should receive only $48
22:15 --> 22:19 for now Because a separate Pennsylvania case challenged
22:19 --> 22:25 Borrow's authority as a state sole executioner
22:25 --> 22:26 and trustee.
22:30 --> 22:34 They said they asked the Delaware court to hold the remaining funds
22:34 --> 22:36 until the family dispute was resolved.
22:38 --> 22:41 However, Judge McCormick rejected both requests. She pointed out
22:42 --> 22:45 that Borrow had received official letters and test,
22:45 --> 22:47 uh, testimonials on,
22:48 --> 22:52 um, April 21st, 2025, making the state authorize
22:53 --> 22:55 him as state's authorized executioner.
22:57 --> 23:02 Uh, I mean, I said executioner—
23:02 --> 23:11 executor. Okay. Um, so Apparently
23:11 --> 23:15 this ruling went into effect and the judge McCormick
23:15 --> 23:16 said that,
23:16 --> 23:21 um, they gave Borrowed
23:21 --> 23:25 20, uh, 20 days to submit a final order reflecting the decision
23:25 --> 23:28 in the court previous rulings. So it looks like she's gonna have to
23:29 --> 23:31 come up with this money. Um,
23:31 --> 23:35 $12.5 million, that's a lot
23:39 --> 23:42 Um, what's your thoughts on this whole story? I mean,
23:42 --> 23:46 to be honest, it sounds like she owes it, you know. Not,
23:46 --> 23:50 uh, not, not much to say. But I wonder, I wonder
23:50 --> 23:54 what the kids are saying about this though, you know. I mean, the grandmother died
23:54 --> 23:59 back in '25, and of course he had been the executor
23:59 --> 24:03 of everything all this time. And then when she passed, now I
24:03 --> 24:06 guess, you know, the kids— everything was going to the kids.
24:07 --> 24:10 But I wonder how they feel about all of this,
24:10 --> 24:12 especially with, um,
24:14 --> 24:18 you know, them fighting over this money. And apparently there's
24:18 --> 24:21 other things they're fighting over as well. Yeah, I'm sure.
24:22 --> 24:26 The way you say, more money, more problems. Well, they— yeah,
24:26 --> 24:30 man, how about that? The song, they, they know all about it.
24:30 --> 24:34 You know, so, um, it's a shame when you have these type of situations,
24:35 --> 24:38 especially when it comes to celebrities. Apparently we know
24:39 --> 24:43 Faith hasn't really been doing all that well. They said that
24:43 --> 24:45 she's had her issues.
24:46 --> 24:50 Um, I'm sure I'd be
24:50 --> 24:54 shocked if she has all this money, I'll be honest with
24:55 --> 24:57 you. Um, You know,
24:58 --> 25:02 and normally when you hear these kind of rulings or whatever, you always wonder if
25:02 --> 25:05 the— you
25:06 --> 25:10 Mhm.
25:11 --> 25:15 He, you know, he's so talkative at times, people. I'm sorry.
25:15 --> 25:19 You know, I mean, I think it just come down to, you know, they owe
25:19 --> 25:22 the money, and the question is Did she spend
25:22 --> 25:26 the money, or is that a company that holds,
25:26 --> 25:29 um, you know, the license to the music? Are they just
25:30 --> 25:33 holding on to it, you know? Or did she give it
25:33 --> 25:37 to Stevie? Or did she give it to Stevie? You know,
25:37 --> 25:41 Stevie J. Yeah, I'm sure they spent some money
25:41 --> 25:45 because, uh, you know, you know, she of course had her little issues over
25:45 --> 25:50 the years. So, um, the money may be out there and
25:50 --> 25:51 Um, but it's gonna, you know, it's a big story. It's all over the place
25:52 --> 25:55 right now. And of course, Biggie is still, you know,
25:56 --> 25:59 somebody that people still identify with over the, you know,
25:59 --> 26:03 even after he's been, you know, after his death all these years ago.
26:03 --> 26:07 Um, people still, you know, want him to win, you know, and they want,
26:07 --> 26:11 you know, even though his kids are grown now, you know, want them to
26:11 --> 26:14 have the things that they're supposed to have as well. So, you know,
26:15 --> 26:18 After all, he made a way for all of them.
26:19 --> 26:23 So we'll be keeping an eye on this story and
26:23 --> 26:24 see what happens.
26:27 --> 26:31 Hopefully justice will be served
26:31 --> 26:32 the way it should be.
26:35 --> 26:37 Okay, we're going to move into our next story.
26:41 --> 26:44 You know, we've talked about these type of stories over the years,
26:44 --> 26:46 and here's another one. And I,
26:49 --> 26:52 from a slightly different perspective, and I just wanted to bring
26:52 --> 26:55 this story up. Black former hairstylist
26:56 --> 26:59 is now battling lung cancer after decades of
26:59 --> 27:03 exposure to salon chemicals.
27:03 --> 27:07 And you and I have talked about, you know, this kind of stuff
27:07 --> 27:12 in the past on a number of occasions. Um, said Georgie
27:12 --> 27:16 Golden, an African-American woman from Richmond,
27:16 --> 27:19 Virginia, who spent 35 years working
27:19 --> 27:23 as a hairstylist and nail tech, is now
27:23 --> 27:28 battling lung cancer after decades of
27:28 --> 27:31 exposure to salon chemicals. Diagnosed in
27:32 --> 27:35 April 2024, she is now questioning whether the products
27:35 --> 27:39 she handled daily contributed to her health problems.
27:40 --> 27:43 She says beauty professionals receive little information
27:44 --> 27:47 about the potential dangers of these chemicals during her career.
27:48 --> 27:51 Golden entered the beauty industry in the late '70s or
27:51 --> 27:55 early '80s. Over the years, she built close
27:56 --> 28:00 relationships with clients who often treated
28:00 --> 28:05 their salon visits as opportunities
28:06 --> 28:09 to share personal struggles. She typically styled
28:10 --> 28:13 at least 10 clients a day using chemical relaxers, hair dyes,
28:14 --> 28:18 and other treatments. She also provided nail salon services,
28:18 --> 28:21 which exposed her to additional products and chemicals.
28:22 --> 28:25 Although she spent, spent decades helping clients look
28:26 --> 28:29 and feel their best, she said the workers received few warnings about the
28:30 --> 28:32 possible health risks. Associated with their jobs,
28:33 --> 28:37 according to WLBT. At the time,
28:37 --> 28:42 salon workers were often told to wear gloves when handling certain relaxers
28:42 --> 28:47 containing lye, but Golden said that they received little
28:47 --> 28:50 guidance about inhaling chemical fumes, fumes,
28:51 --> 28:55 or using other protective equipment. You know what's interesting about
28:55 --> 28:58 that statement right there? Is now with everything that goes on,
28:58 --> 29:02 especially since COVID and so forth, and, you know,
29:02 --> 29:06 they have us, you know, wearing masks, and people will still put on a mask
29:06 --> 29:08 when they know they're sick, or, you know, there's stuff in the air.
29:09 --> 29:13 You would have thought— and I don't think I
29:13 --> 29:16 ever went into a salon, and I've been
29:17 --> 29:20 in a few of them over the years— where I seen
29:20 --> 29:24 people wearing masks, right? And I know
29:25 --> 29:28 if they think about it now, you probably
29:28 --> 29:32 would have seen all of the hairstylists and salon
29:32 --> 29:36 workers wearing masks, especially what they know now,
29:37 --> 29:40 because that was not something you saw. And yes, the chemicals were very
29:41 --> 29:44 strong in those places. You could smell them as soon as you walked in
29:44 --> 29:48 the door. You knew when somebody got their hair done, especially when the the
29:48 --> 29:52 waves and, um, and Jheri curls and all that stuff came
29:52 --> 29:55 out. That stuff was strong when they first— when you first
29:56 --> 29:58 got it done, you always knew somebody just got their hair done because of the
29:58 --> 30:03 way their hair smelled. So yeah, you know the smell I'm talking about,
30:03 --> 30:07 right? Yeah. So yeah, it says here her
30:07 --> 30:10 lung cancer diagnosis left her searching for answers,
30:11 --> 30:13 particularly because she had never smoked.
30:14 --> 30:18 She eventually began questioning whether years of salon work had affected
30:18 --> 30:23 her health. Formaldehyde, as a known carcinogen,
30:24 --> 30:28 has been found in certain hair products and can cause respiratory
30:28 --> 30:33 problems. However, there is no established evidence
30:33 --> 30:38 that salon chemical exposure caused her specific
30:38 --> 30:42 cancer diagnosis. She also recalled
30:42 --> 30:48 undergoing a hysterectomy at
30:48 --> 30:52 age 26. Wow, that's young. After experiencing
30:52 --> 30:55 severe pain and passing out at work,
30:56 --> 31:00 doctors found polyps, but she said she
31:00 --> 31:04 did not tell her that she had
31:04 --> 31:08 cancer. Research has raised additional concerns about the possible
31:08 --> 31:11 health effects of chemical exposures in the beauty industry.
31:13 --> 31:17 National Institute of Health study known as the Sister
31:17 --> 31:20 Study followed approximately 33
31:21 --> 31:24 women for 11 years and reported an association
31:24 --> 31:28 between formaldehyde exposure and uterine cancer.
31:29 --> 31:32 Researchers have also investigated the potential risks of
31:32 --> 31:37 chemical hair straighteners, which have been widely used
31:38 --> 31:42 by Black women. Golden said that she began looking more closely
31:42 --> 31:49 at these concerns after learning that other women who
31:49 --> 31:54 worked in the front lines
31:55 --> 31:59 had developed serious
31:59 --> 32:03 illnesses. Stressful connections
32:03 --> 32:06 are not always recognized. Um,
32:06 --> 32:10 complaints filed with the Occupational Safety and Health Administration,
32:10 --> 32:14 which is OSHA, have also highlighted
32:15 --> 32:17 safety concerns in the salons across the country.
32:18 --> 32:18 So,
32:23 --> 32:26 oh, let me read this. It said now retired Golden hopes other
32:27 --> 32:30 beauty professionals will prioritize their health using appropriate
32:31 --> 32:35 protective equipment and seeking medical attention when something
32:36 --> 32:39 feels wrong. She says women often spend so
32:40 --> 32:43 much time caring for others that they neglect their own well-being.
32:46 --> 32:49 Like I said, you and I have done a number of stories about this.
32:53 --> 32:57 When you think about it and, you know, you're married, and of course,
32:57 --> 33:01 you know, I know I was married at one time and I know My
33:01 --> 33:04 wife has used relaxers, my ex-wife has used relaxers, and so
33:05 --> 33:09 forth. And she has had a cancer scare herself.
33:11 --> 33:14 And, um, you know, it's, um, it's really
33:14 --> 33:18 interesting that, you know, apparently there's
33:18 --> 33:22 evidence that this, this stuff has caused
33:23 --> 33:27 problems, you know, especially when it comes to uterine cancer and
33:27 --> 33:28 ovary, uh,
33:30 --> 33:34 So forth and so forth. What, what's your
33:34 --> 33:37 whole thoughts about how these
33:37 --> 33:41 products were pushed to us for so many years and
33:42 --> 33:44 how we handled it? Because like I said,
33:45 --> 33:49 I've been in many salons over
33:49 --> 33:53 the years, you know, and I don't remember ever seeing anybody
33:53 --> 33:56 wearing a mask. Right. So,
33:56 --> 34:01 you know, you would think that would be something that—
34:03 --> 34:06 yeah, so I mean, I, I really think— go ahead. Yep. I really think
34:07 --> 34:10 it's twofold, where one,
34:12 --> 34:15 you know, of course we've been exposed and we're not protecting ourselves,
34:16 --> 34:20 and then two, do we really care?
34:21 --> 34:24 And I only say that because, I mean, think of all the other stuff like
34:24 --> 34:27 cigarettes. I mean, you know, people know cigarettes cause lung
34:27 --> 34:31 cancer, know they're not healthy, but people,
34:31 --> 34:35 you know, people do it. You know, alcohol, people do it.
34:35 --> 34:39 And I mean, those are maybe more addictive, but even think about
34:39 --> 34:42 people eating all these processed foods. You know, like,
34:42 --> 34:45 we, like, we know all these processed foods aren't great.
34:46 --> 34:49 So I mean, I agree. I think it's twofold where,
34:51 --> 34:55 you know, there are a lot of chemicals and there are a lot of risks.
34:56 --> 35:00 And then 2, you know, I think we have just become so
35:01 --> 35:04 accustomed to kind of doing what we want and, and kind of being okay
35:05 --> 35:08 with it, you know. So I mean, I, I don't know about you, but a
35:09 --> 35:12 lot— because, um, unfortunately I eat out a lot. So, you know, I always think
35:12 --> 35:16 about, okay, all these chemicals and the fast foods and the
35:16 --> 35:20 grease and the, you know, the, the dyes and
35:21 --> 35:23 all that. But it's kind of like, you know, at the same point you want
35:24 --> 35:27 to enjoy yourself and kind of, you know, live like you want to
35:27 --> 35:31 live. So, um, I do understand. And of course, you know,
35:31 --> 35:35 we don't know for sure 100% that it's
35:35 --> 35:39 the exposure to the salon chemicals, but we know that's a could
35:39 --> 35:41 definitely be a major cause. So,
35:43 --> 35:46 but I mean, you are correct. Like, when I go in salons and
35:47 --> 35:50 stuff like that, I do not see— I
35:51 --> 35:54 mean, if ever, it's very rare that I see somebody,
35:55 --> 35:58 um, you know, wearing something like that.
36:01 --> 36:04 Well, you know, and I guess now, you know,
36:05 --> 36:08 in the last 5, 6 years. If you're going to see it, you would probably
36:09 --> 36:13 see it within the last 5 to 6 years because everything that's happened
36:13 --> 36:16 with COVID and everything. But I know in the past,
36:16 --> 36:19 prior to the pandemic,
36:20 --> 36:23 I never saw anybody with a mask on in those places. I used
36:24 --> 36:27 to go to a salon, um, to get my haircut. I went to
36:28 --> 36:31 a couple salons to get my haircut. Um, matter of fact, uh,
36:32 --> 36:35 You remember Sadie's? Sadie's was one of the places I used to go to,
36:36 --> 36:39 um, and another salon that I used to go to in Wilmington.
36:41 --> 36:44 And no, I mean, it was, you know, they— I
36:45 --> 36:48 never saw anybody with masks on when I would go in those places. So,
36:50 --> 36:53 but I wonder now with everything that's been said about
36:54 --> 36:57 the hair industry, especially the Black hair industry, with all
36:57 --> 37:00 that we've endured with some relaxers and,
37:00 --> 37:03 and straighteners and all of that kind of stuff,
37:04 --> 37:09 um, will we see masks in
37:09 --> 37:12 a lot of these places now? Knowing— and it would probably have
37:13 --> 37:16 to be the N95 masks to keep, you know, they would be the most protective
37:16 --> 37:19 ones to have, I guess, you know.
37:19 --> 37:23 So, um, well, I know they— I was gonna
37:24 --> 37:27 say, even with that I'm always surprised now when I'll
37:27 --> 37:31 go random places and I'll see people with masks on. For instance,
37:31 --> 37:34 I was at the grocery store the other day and the cashier had a mask
37:34 --> 37:37 on. And I mean, I definitely understand,
37:37 --> 37:41 but you know, I'm always surprised to see people
37:41 --> 37:44 wearing— still wearing masks, which to be honest is a good thing because they're kind
37:45 --> 37:48 of protecting themselves. Yeah, well, especially in a job like— especially in a
37:49 --> 37:52 job like that because you got people coming by you're, you know, coming across your
37:53 --> 37:56 face on a regular basis. And, you know, you got people with all kinds
37:57 --> 38:00 of things coming through, the germs and everything. And I, you know,
38:00 --> 38:04 I, I guess that's the way to protect yourself, you know, because I still see
38:04 --> 38:08 people from, you know, I'm at the Hudson Center, you know, and,
38:08 --> 38:12 and, you know, we got all types of people. We got a tuberculosis clinic
38:12 --> 38:15 in there and we got all kinds of stuff in there. So, you know,
38:15 --> 38:17 you don't know what people are dealing with when they walk through that door.
38:18 --> 38:21 Right, you know, and you know, now a lot
38:22 --> 38:25 of us will wear a mask if we got a cold or something, you know,
38:25 --> 38:28 because we don't want to spread the germ or whatever. But when you talk about
38:29 --> 38:32 other stuff, you know, all right, I think
38:33 --> 38:37 it's totally insensitive of people if
38:37 --> 38:40 you know you have something serious going on with you that you don't
38:41 --> 38:44 want to spread to come into a place without a mask
38:45 --> 38:48 on. Yeah, or even gloves as far as I'm
38:49 --> 38:54 concerned, you know. That's a responsibility.
38:54 --> 38:57 Do you think people really care? Like, like, do you think people who are
38:58 --> 39:01 sick are like, hey, let me put a mask on, let me
39:02 --> 39:06 put gloves on? You want to think so. I mean,
39:06 --> 39:10 I mean, really, you— I mean, but you know, we, we We're
39:11 --> 39:14 in such a bad, bad state with the way that people think these
39:14 --> 39:17 days. No, I mean,
39:18 --> 39:22 well, you know, we talked about it, you know, prior to the show
39:23 --> 39:26 about what happened on Halloween. Um, you know,
39:26 --> 39:30 um, well, early part of the show, what happened on Halloween
39:30 --> 39:34 and all the different shootings and so forth that happened. And most of those shootings
39:34 --> 39:38 involve people under 21 years old. Yeah, you know,
39:38 --> 39:38 and,
39:42 --> 39:45 and so people just have a different
39:46 --> 39:49 way of thinking these days,
39:50 --> 39:53 and a lot of them do not care anymore. They really don't.
39:54 --> 39:57 And it's really sad. Um, we need to— we,
39:58 --> 40:00 you know, and I think a lot of it has to do with the— and,
40:00 --> 40:04 you know, I, I hate to say it, but I mean You look at
40:05 --> 40:08 the leadership in the country right now, we know he doesn't care, right?
40:09 --> 40:13 You know, uh, he only cares about making money and getting people
40:13 --> 40:17 and then being a, you know, a dictator basically,
40:18 --> 40:22 you know. So that's why today is a very important
40:22 --> 40:26 day, folks, leading back to Election Day. And, you know,
40:26 --> 40:29 we want to make sure that we are at those polls all the way up
40:29 --> 40:33 until the time it closes, um, to make
40:33 --> 40:37 sure that our voice is heard and that for those that want change,
40:38 --> 40:41 let's make a change. Because we know there's a lot that don't
40:42 --> 40:44 want change. You know,
40:46 --> 40:49 I had to say this before I move on. I had somebody sitting
40:49 --> 40:51 in my office the other day, um,
40:54 --> 40:54 and they were Hispanic.
40:58 --> 41:01 And they were there because there's new immigration
41:03 --> 41:07 laws now that will restrict people based
41:07 --> 41:10 on their status as far as getting food benefits and Medicaid.
41:13 --> 41:17 Some of the laws went into effect in October, and,
41:17 --> 41:21 and there's new laws going into effect in January. So a
41:22 --> 41:26 lot of people who are not citizens are
41:27 --> 41:30 really concerned because they're worried about their benefits getting cut off.
41:32 --> 41:35 So this couple that was in my office,
41:37 --> 41:40 probably in their 40s, Hispanic— one
41:41 --> 41:44 was a citizen, the other one wasn't. The one that
41:45 --> 41:48 wasn't was saying, you know,
41:51 --> 41:55 this is, this is not what he said would happen.
41:55 --> 41:59 I said, who? And he said,
41:59 --> 42:03 President Trump. He said if we voted for him that he
42:03 --> 42:06 would take care of us. I said, where did you read that?
42:06 --> 42:10 Right. And he said
42:10 --> 42:16 that his brother got a letter that was supposedly from the president
42:16 --> 42:19 that said that, you know, that he would
42:19 --> 42:22 always take care of him
42:23 --> 42:26 and his family. I said, you believe that letter was real?
42:27 --> 42:30 I said, where's your brother now? And the wife
42:31 --> 42:33 put her head down. The brother got deported.
42:37 --> 42:40 I said, so This is the
42:40 --> 42:44 direct result of people like you who
42:44 --> 42:48 didn't understand what happened, what was happening with
42:48 --> 42:52 the last election. Hopefully you understand this time around
42:53 --> 42:56 what you need to do. I can't tell you who to vote for, but hopefully
42:56 --> 43:00 you'll get it. You'll, you'll, you'll do all the research that you need
43:00 --> 43:03 to do before you make your selection this time, if you haven't already made it.
43:05 --> 43:08 And he started laughing. He said, oh, I know now, you know.
43:09 --> 43:11 So sure, you know. So, but anyway,
43:13 --> 43:15 well, speaking of that, that leads us into Dave's Corner.
43:16 --> 43:20 And so, and this is perfect caveat
43:20 --> 43:24 in going into Dave's Corner today, um, and this
43:25 --> 43:28 is the question for today: what's
43:28 --> 43:32 your prediction on tonight's election result? What do you think is going
43:32 --> 43:35 to happen? Um, Leonard, do you think the Democrats will be
43:36 --> 43:39 in power by the time everything is counted?
43:40 --> 43:44 Yeah, definitely. You, you really feel confident
43:44 --> 43:47 with that? Yeah, because I mean, there's just been so much up— like, you know,
43:47 --> 43:50 they— even Republicans are pissed off right now.
43:51 --> 43:54 So, you know, I think everybody's wanting changes in
43:54 --> 43:58 these first 2 years. We see that Promises made
43:58 --> 44:02 were not promises upheld. And, you know, I think
44:02 --> 44:03 people want— people want to change.
44:06 --> 44:09 Do you think that, um, even with the little things that have been
44:10 --> 44:13 happening over the last month or two, like with the whole
44:13 --> 44:16 thing with the, uh, with the,
44:17 --> 44:20 um, uh, what's the name, um, jumping,
44:21 --> 44:24 jumping parties, um Uh, well, voting for the Republican.
44:24 --> 44:27 Um, Hillary— what's,
44:27 --> 44:31 what's the, what's the lady's name that, that's the, that just switched
44:31 --> 44:35 parties? I was voting for the Republican because she didn't like
44:36 --> 44:40 the other guy who, who, um, was talking about it. They said he— she
44:40 --> 44:43 called him anti-Semitic. Yeah, I'm not sure.
44:46 --> 44:49 Oh, uh, man, that's crazy. I cannot think of her name. But anyway,
44:50 --> 44:53 we got a lot of strange things happening at the moment.
44:53 --> 44:57 And, um, you know, and with
44:57 --> 45:00 them trying to line everything to work in their favor, but it's
45:01 --> 45:02 not going to work this time. I don't feel it's going to work either,
45:02 --> 45:06 Larry. I think, you know,
45:06 --> 45:09 the people are too upset. People are too upset.
45:09 --> 45:13 We've seen too many unbroken— I mean, we've seen too many broken promises
45:14 --> 45:17 and Not that he can deliver
45:18 --> 45:21 on them all anyway. And, you know, he's too busy
45:21 --> 45:25 trying to put his name on everything, right, as opposed
45:25 --> 45:28 to fixing the things that we have the problems with, you know. So,
45:29 --> 45:30 so everyone,
45:32 --> 45:34 if you haven't voted, you still have some time.
45:36 --> 45:39 Let's get it done. Let's hope for change.
45:40 --> 45:44 And let's truly make America
45:44 --> 45:48 great again, as opposed to this mess that we've been dealing
45:48 --> 45:54 with. Okay? Because this is not what
45:54 --> 45:58 we wanted to see. This is not what we feel is
45:58 --> 46:02 a— we're right now, we're not a great country. We're being laughed at by everybody
46:02 --> 46:06 right now. We got people leaving this country to
46:06 --> 46:10 go move to other places because they don't want to be here. Right,
46:10 --> 46:13 that's crazy. So, and that is crazy.
46:14 --> 46:15 That is crazy.
46:18 --> 46:19 So, um,
46:25 --> 46:28 that's everything we got for you tonight.
46:30 --> 46:34 We want to get
46:35 --> 46:38 given us 5 full great years. And here we're
46:38 --> 46:41 going into getting through this next year,
46:42 --> 46:45 giving you the information that we've always given you. And,
46:46 --> 46:50 um, trying to say have a good night and
46:50 --> 46:51 we'll talk to you next Tuesday.
47:02 --> 47:05 Tune in next week, ladies and gentlemen, for another edition of News and
47:06 --> 47:08 Trends with your hosts Dave and Lynn.