The Birthing Room Podcast #5 "My Trauma My Healing"

[00:00:01] Welcome, welcome, welcome. Welcome, I'm going to say praise the Lord and hallelujah. See, I'm so churchy. Welcome to The Birthing Room, everybody. Welcome to The Birthing Room. We are here on our fifth episode of The Birthing Room, and we have a treat on tonight.

[00:00:18] And before we get started, I want to say thanks for tuning in to The Birthing Room. And don't forget that you can also listen to the audio version of this episode on all major podcast platforms hosted on the NBG Podcast Network.

[00:00:37] And be sure to subscribe, okay, so you never miss an episode. And we are about to dive into an amazing testimony.

[00:00:44] And let's just sit, go get something to drink, y'all, because we're about to have a time tonight. Somebody's going to be set free, all right?

[00:00:59] Okay, so you all know, if you do not know me, my name is Lorena, Lorena Whitehead. I am the host of The Birthing Room.

[00:01:06] And this is a platform or a podcast where we come and we just give the testimony and tell of the goodness of the Lord.

[00:01:14] They took testimony time out of church, because y'all didn't know how to act. No, y'all didn't. Y'all did not know how to act.

[00:01:20] Y'all didn't know what to say, but that's okay, because I'm going to have y'all come here.

[00:01:23] Y'all can come here and you can give your testimony right here. Oh, look, my eye hurt.

[00:01:28] Give it here, because y'all was in church giving that testimony. It's too long and telling too much.

[00:01:32] But here, you could come and I can navigate you through it, okay?

[00:01:35] So we have today, now, Peaceful Presence is her name.

[00:01:41] And she is a bishop, so I'm going to call her Bishop D.

[00:01:45] We're going to call her Peaceful Presence.

[00:01:47] And I've been, my first time speaking with you today, and you do have such a peaceful voice and peaceful presence.

[00:01:53] I didn't even ask what you do for a living, but I'm assuming you work with people.

[00:01:57] I do, actually. I work...

[00:01:59] You work with people with special needs, some special care, some special needs?

[00:02:04] I work with nurses.

[00:02:06] Nurses, see?

[00:02:07] I saw you being a helper and people who are going through, you know, some...

[00:02:13] Yeah.

[00:02:14] I see it just being a soft presence and giving that love, this love.

[00:02:18] So tonight, we're going to hear from Peaceful Presence.

[00:02:22] I had an opportunity of getting an email, and I said I read through it, and I was inspired by her testimony.

[00:02:28] So we're going to let her give it. I'm not going to give it.

[00:02:30] Y'all know I usually give y'all a little snippet, but I don't know too much.

[00:02:32] She's trying to tell me. That cut her off.

[00:02:34] Like, mm-mm, mm-mm. Save it for the people.

[00:02:36] Save it for the people.

[00:02:38] Because I want to get into it, or you guys get into it.

[00:02:40] So if you have not already grabbed something to drink, grab something to drink.

[00:02:44] Peaceful Presence, do you want to share this broadcast with your...

[00:02:49] See, listen.

[00:02:50] We got Dr. Pepper. Dr. Pepper, sponsor us.

[00:02:53] Now, they are not sponsoring this, but they should.

[00:02:56] They should. I agree.

[00:02:57] That's it.

[00:03:02] I don't even know what this is.

[00:03:04] This is a cream, strawberries and cream.

[00:03:08] This thing is jumping.

[00:03:11] I should not be drinking soda.

[00:03:12] I got married, Peaceful Presence, about two and a half years ago.

[00:03:17] Okay.

[00:03:17] They always say when you get married, you gain weight.

[00:03:20] And I did.

[00:03:21] I gained over 20 pounds.

[00:03:24] Let's just go ahead and be real.

[00:03:25] Let's just tell the truth of the devil.

[00:03:28] But it wasn't because they say, oh, you're so happy.

[00:03:30] It's happy weight.

[00:03:31] No, it would shut your mouth weight.

[00:03:34] Every time I wanted to say something, I stuck something in my mouth.

[00:03:37] I said, God, help me.

[00:03:38] And I began to feed myself.

[00:03:40] Lord, give me.

[00:03:41] Because I got married older.

[00:03:42] You know, you set in your ways and you want to talk back because you, you know, you're independent and strong.

[00:03:47] All that.

[00:03:48] Yeah.

[00:03:48] And I just started eating before I knew it.

[00:03:51] And now here I am at peace and happy and I'm still fat.

[00:03:54] So, okay.

[00:03:55] We're going to jump right into it.

[00:03:57] I'm going to go ahead and let you kind of introduce yourself and tell us all about you.

[00:04:01] Well, hello, hello, hello, everyone.

[00:04:04] As the woman of God said, my name is Peaceful Presence.

[00:04:07] That is the prophetic declaration that the Lord had given me for my life.

[00:04:11] And I tell you, it has truly become a lifestyle because he's our Jehovah Shalom.

[00:04:16] And so without him, we cannot have that presence of his peace.

[00:04:21] We cannot have the peace that would withstand any and all things.

[00:04:25] Right.

[00:04:25] While the world is in chaos, we have God's peace.

[00:04:27] And so the more I began to prophetically declare that over my life, the more the enemy wanted to bring chaos but couldn't.

[00:04:36] Right.

[00:04:36] And so Peaceful Presence was, it's also the name of the ministry that the Lord has allowed me to shepherd, Peaceful Presence Ministries.

[00:04:46] And so there is just something about having peace, right, in the midst of a storm.

[00:04:52] So when God commanded me to write this book, I tell you, Prophetess Lorena, this book was written in two days.

[00:04:59] It was 48 hours.

[00:04:59] You said that.

[00:05:01] You said that.

[00:05:02] Yeah.

[00:05:03] Yeah.

[00:05:03] And so when God tells you to do something, we're mandated to do it.

[00:05:07] And so when you do it, he gives you right then and there everything that you need to go from start to completion.

[00:05:14] Right.

[00:05:15] And so I'm just, you know, a little country girl, you know, with city roots and all the things, you know, by way of Tennessee, Louisiana, all down through there.

[00:05:31] And so I'm just, you know, somebody who would much rather be fishing and hunting, you know, doing those type of things.

[00:05:36] Really?

[00:05:38] Really?

[00:05:38] You know, really, you know, and I'm reminded of the songwriter that said, you know, I'm just a nobody trying to tell everybody.

[00:05:45] Oh, everybody.

[00:05:45] If I was somebody.

[00:05:47] Who could save anybody, right?

[00:05:50] I can't say that.

[00:05:51] Yeah.

[00:05:51] Because the titles and stuff are going to go somewhere.

[00:05:54] The proper circumstance is going to go somewhere.

[00:05:56] Yes.

[00:05:57] But who are you really on the inside?

[00:05:58] And so.

[00:05:59] Who are you really?

[00:06:00] Just, just, just someone who understood brokenness from both sides that the Lord used as a vessel to get the story out there that guess what?

[00:06:09] Yes, you've been through trauma, but as loud as you can claim your trauma, you can claim your healing.

[00:06:14] Even though that's how the title of the book came forth.

[00:06:18] My trauma, my healing.

[00:06:20] Okay.

[00:06:20] So let's talk about the trauma that caused you to, you know, to write the book.

[00:06:24] Because I think at this point, the Lord has freed.

[00:06:26] He has delivered.

[00:06:27] And whatever you feel free talking about.

[00:06:29] So what was the, some of the trauma that got you to this place where you are healed and you were able to put it on paper and share it.

[00:06:38] Because once you can share it, that means you can't use it against me and it can no longer break me.

[00:06:43] That part, that part.

[00:06:44] And so we have to understand, number one, trauma is a multifaceted thing.

[00:06:51] And I know sometimes we think that we're having a rough go at something.

[00:06:56] We're having a hard time at something.

[00:06:58] And we call that trauma.

[00:06:59] But nine times out of ten, it's not.

[00:07:01] Right?

[00:07:01] And so trauma can be really physical, psychological, spiritual.

[00:07:06] It can come from any places.

[00:07:07] And so for me, at the age of six, my trauma came from a safe place.

[00:07:12] And what I mean by a safe place was when you're at your grandma's house, right?

[00:07:16] When you're up to the kindred, right?

[00:07:19] You are counting yourself to be safe.

[00:07:23] But a lot of times when your trauma comes from a safe place, I think that traumatizes you or hurts you or cuts you deeper than when it comes from a stranger or when it comes from something or someone outside.

[00:07:35] Right?

[00:07:36] Because this was my place to be safe.

[00:07:38] And so at the age of six, I was molested by a family member.

[00:07:43] And it's all in the book, guys.

[00:07:45] It's all in the book.

[00:07:46] He had me perform oral sex on him.

[00:07:50] And at the age of six, you don't know what you're doing.

[00:07:53] You don't know that it's wrong.

[00:07:54] You don't know that this is not normal.

[00:07:56] You don't know that something is not right.

[00:07:58] But what happens in the physical and the natural or in the physical and the spirit, man, the spirit is that in the physical, now something has been broken.

[00:08:09] A seal has been broken in me.

[00:08:10] And now some things are waking up in me that should have been not there.

[00:08:15] Shouldn't have been woken up.

[00:08:17] Shouldn't have been placed there, right?

[00:08:18] So I had some things that were woke up, but I also had some things that were dropped in, right?

[00:08:22] And so what do you mean by things that were woken up?

[00:08:24] See, there's generational curses and soul ties because there are covenants that are made.

[00:08:31] Watch this.

[00:08:32] On behalf of the children in the bloodline.

[00:08:34] And so it's 10 to 10 generations ago.

[00:08:38] So you don't know that thing that has been laying dormant waiting to get to your specific generation that is attached to your lineage.

[00:08:47] And so what do I mean by something else was dropped in?

[00:08:50] Because now to add to the promiscuity, watch this, that was already in the bloodline.

[00:08:57] Now we're dealing with incest, right?

[00:08:59] Yeah.

[00:08:59] Now we're dealing with some other things that have been dropped in.

[00:09:03] And how many of you know that if you're making a cake, you've got to have the exact measurements, the exact ingredients, the exact mixtures and times.

[00:09:11] You've got to sometimes mix only wet, mix only dry, and then it's time to bring it together.

[00:09:15] But when you start throwing some things together, right, you come up with a bunch of mess.

[00:09:21] And so in my life as a six-year-old girl, I come up with a bunch of mess.

[00:09:27] I come up with incest.

[00:09:29] I come up with sexual perversion, sexual promiscuity.

[00:09:34] Now at the age of even six, I'm beginning to feel some sensations and some things that I'm not sure what I'm feeling.

[00:09:43] My flesh is telling me it feels good.

[00:09:46] My spirit man is still leaping and jumping on the inside of me saying something ain't right with this thing.

[00:09:51] Something is off.

[00:09:53] This is not natural.

[00:09:55] This is not natural affection.

[00:09:56] And so at the age of six, when this trauma came from a safe place, now everything after that was based on what was introduced in the trauma.

[00:10:06] Right?

[00:10:07] That's it.

[00:10:07] And so decisions that we're making.

[00:10:09] And guess what?

[00:10:10] Decisions that I'm making at the age of eight, 10, 20, 25, up until the time of actual deliverance,

[00:10:19] every decision, good, bad, indifferent, and ugly, was made because of the trauma that had occurred and begin to shift and to wake some stuff up.

[00:10:29] And so I have to tell you, going through that at the age of six, you don't know how to process those things.

[00:10:37] You don't know these different emotions that you're feeling.

[00:10:40] You don't know these different hormones that are now taking over your body.

[00:10:44] Some things have been shaken loose and prematurely birthed.

[00:10:48] And so you think after a while, okay, this is dysfunction, but now the dysfunction has become normal.

[00:10:57] So I'm going to walk on the abnormalities of the dysfunction and anything outside of that, I'm going to count it wrong.

[00:11:03] Why?

[00:11:03] Because of that trauma.

[00:11:05] That trauma.

[00:11:06] Yeah.

[00:11:08] And even with that, and I don't know if you grew up in church, and I'm not even sure what age you told, but I know that even in my family, my father, my biological father molested my sisters.

[00:11:21] And even back then, I remember when they told, and they were little, the church was like, you know, you got to just pray for me, pray through it, you know, not understanding the black family.

[00:11:33] You know, what happens at home stays at home.

[00:11:35] You know, no one getting counseling for it.

[00:11:37] Did anyone, when you're counseling, did you receive counseling to get you through your trauma as a young?

[00:11:46] I did not.

[00:11:47] And I'm going to tell you, last weekend I was at a women's conference or domestic violence conference in Arkansas.

[00:11:54] And one of the things that the Lord had me to speak was if we don't stop as a community specifically.

[00:12:01] Now I'm not the one to do the whole black, white thing, because at the end of the day, it's either serving or the part.

[00:12:06] Right.

[00:12:07] But specifically in the community that has skin color, who looks like mine, we have come with this, this doctrine.

[00:12:16] What goes on in this house stays in this house.

[00:12:19] And so how do we ever become whole if the house is comfortable being broken?

[00:12:28] That's it.

[00:12:29] And so we have a doctrine call.

[00:12:33] What goes on in this house that stays in this house with the sermon title, we're going to sweep everything under the rug.

[00:12:38] And so now the outcome is everything that gets swept under the rug, swept under the rug.

[00:12:42] At some point, somebody's going to trip over the rug.

[00:12:46] Now we're in a place where we don't know how that happened.

[00:12:50] My son isn't like that.

[00:12:52] My daughter didn't do it.

[00:12:53] She wouldn't go there.

[00:12:54] What did we deal with what was going on?

[00:12:58] And so I remember sitting in my grade school classroom.

[00:13:00] I went to Washington Elementary in Chicago, Illinois, on the west side.

[00:13:04] And I remember sitting there.

[00:13:06] They made us watch this Oprah Winfrey documentary.

[00:13:09] And this, I believe, was my first experience with demonic torment, but also hearing the voice of God.

[00:13:16] And so during this time of watching this video where she was dealing with sexual molestation, because I believe even if I remember correctly, she began to speak on some of the traumas that she had endured.

[00:13:29] And I remember feeling very uncomfortable.

[00:13:33] And I remember squirming in my seat and I couldn't get comfortable and I couldn't.

[00:13:37] And I could hear the enemy saying, that's why you don't tell nobody, because nobody's going to care.

[00:13:45] Nothing's going to happen.

[00:13:47] Nobody's going to believe you're the black sheep of the family anyway, because see, I come from a family where I'm the only girl out of a generation of boys, right?

[00:13:55] My generation, there's only three girls.

[00:13:59] And we are so spaced out to the point where the older cousin is close in age with the aunties.

[00:14:05] And then there's another cousin.

[00:14:06] But because she was born to my uncle and not a sister of the family, we didn't get a whole lot of proximity.

[00:14:12] So you know how that family dynamic works.

[00:14:14] And so we didn't get a whole lot of proximity.

[00:14:16] So I'm the only girl, the only female amongst a bunch of boys.

[00:14:21] And so my family had a tendency, and they still do, to put the boys on a pedestal.

[00:14:28] So the enemy played on that insecurity, because remember now some stuff got woke up now.

[00:14:33] So insecurity is magnified.

[00:14:36] My physical appearance, self-esteem, all of these things are magnified because in my mind, I've received the doctrine of being the ugly duckling.

[00:14:45] So I'm being physically tormented, sitting in this classroom, listening to this documentary.

[00:14:52] But then I could also hear, even through the torment, which was a loud shout.

[00:14:58] But even through the torment, I could hear, you've got to tell.

[00:15:03] You've got to tell.

[00:15:04] You need to tell.

[00:15:04] You must tell.

[00:15:06] And so I remember going home.

[00:15:09] And I remember my parents, they still live in the same house.

[00:15:12] We have one of those well-known Chicago-style bungalows.

[00:15:15] And I remember being in the basement with my mother.

[00:15:19] We were standing in front of the washer and dryer.

[00:15:22] And I said, I need to tell you something.

[00:15:23] But I believe if I tell you, you're going to love me less.

[00:15:27] Oh, my goodness.

[00:15:29] And she looked at me with utter confusion because this is something she'd never heard come from me before.

[00:15:38] And so I told her that so-and-so had molested me and what he had did to me.

[00:15:45] And the first thing she said was when.

[00:15:49] And so I told her when it happened, where it happened.

[00:15:54] And before I could muster, don't tell my dad.

[00:16:01] One thing for certain, two things for sure.

[00:16:03] I was always a daddy's girl.

[00:16:07] I was the son that he didn't have.

[00:16:11] Okay?

[00:16:12] So daddy said he going hunting.

[00:16:13] I'm going hunting too.

[00:16:14] Daddy going squirrel hunting.

[00:16:15] I'm on his neck.

[00:16:16] I'm on his hip.

[00:16:16] I'm right with him.

[00:16:18] And so before I could get, and I've never seen my mom move so fast, before I could get the word, don't tell my dad.

[00:16:26] She was already at the top of the stairs.

[00:16:28] That's right.

[00:16:29] And she told him.

[00:16:30] And listen, I got to tell you something about my dad.

[00:16:32] My dad is a country boy from Louisiana.

[00:16:34] And so it ain't a matter of if, but when.

[00:16:38] When.

[00:16:39] Okay?

[00:16:40] Yeah, the shotgun is somewhere.

[00:16:42] Listen, listen, because it didn't matter where you was in the house.

[00:16:45] It wasn't far from reach.

[00:16:46] Okay?

[00:16:47] Okay.

[00:16:47] And so, and so, and so she told him and I saw his complete face distort.

[00:16:54] And I knew the thought process that he had.

[00:16:57] And he pushed my mom out of the way because he was going on his way to kill.

[00:17:01] Yeah.

[00:17:02] And it was but the grace of God that stifled him right in his tracks.

[00:17:07] And I still, to this day, don't know what he heard or what he experienced to stop him in

[00:17:15] his track.

[00:17:16] But he was in a place where he was going with murder on his mind.

[00:17:20] That's right.

[00:17:21] His little girl been hurt.

[00:17:23] It was.

[00:17:23] And so, and so I don't remember how that night ended or even how my mom was able to talk him

[00:17:34] out of that place because rage and murder was friends that night.

[00:17:39] And so I don't know.

[00:17:41] And again, it was but the grace of God, because I know it had to be the voice of a wife to

[00:17:46] keep him from going.

[00:17:48] You know, sometimes as a wife, you're the only one who can talk your husband out of that

[00:17:53] place.

[00:17:54] You're the only one that can whisper that sweet nothing that can bring him from a hellacious

[00:17:58] day to being calm and being at peace and being at rest.

[00:18:01] And so I don't under, I don't know.

[00:18:04] I don't understand what took place that day, but something shifted and he didn't go.

[00:18:11] And so, and so this is when I began to understand and to learn the power of forgiveness.

[00:18:18] And so this was one of the very first scriptures that my mother introduced to me, which was

[00:18:23] some Psalms 110 about the, the, the Lord said, he's going to make your enemy, your footstool.

[00:18:28] And so she come on to begin to put this person's name there.

[00:18:32] And I did that.

[00:18:33] And, and, and, and I said, well, Lord, if you're going to do it with him, then I might

[00:18:36] will add a couple more names about some people who had done, did some things to me and put

[00:18:42] me in some unnatural frames of mind.

[00:18:46] You know, I was, I was called the ugly duckling.

[00:18:48] I was the darker cut.

[00:18:49] I was too dark.

[00:18:50] You know, I had two, two light-skinned female cousins, and I used to have to walk so many

[00:18:55] paces behind them because they were the pretty ones.

[00:18:57] And, and, and I was the one who was slow to develop.

[00:19:00] You know, I didn't have the boobs.

[00:19:01] I didn't have all the things, you know, I didn't know how to switch, still don't know

[00:19:04] how to this day, you know, I pinch a toe.

[00:19:06] So I walked crooked and straight at the same time.

[00:19:08] So I didn't know how to do and, and, and, and, and get some of the things that, you know,

[00:19:13] that, that they did because they were way more advanced than me.

[00:19:15] And so, you know, I was the ugly duckling.

[00:19:17] And so, because I was the ugly duckling, that was the persona that I had grabbed hold

[00:19:21] to.

[00:19:21] Yes.

[00:19:22] And so, and so I always thought there was something wrong with me.

[00:19:25] I thought there was something wrong with me because I was born female in a, in a,

[00:19:29] in a, in a pool of men.

[00:19:30] Okay.

[00:19:31] I thought there was something wrong with me because I was the darker one in a pool of

[00:19:36] skin and light skin.

[00:19:37] And even though I did have darker male cousins, it didn't matter because they were the male

[00:19:42] cousins.

[00:19:43] So the male prompt the, the, the colorism and the dark skin.

[00:19:47] Right.

[00:19:47] And so, and so, and so I was a late bloomer.

[00:19:51] I was, I was slow to develop.

[00:19:54] And so, and so that was held against me.

[00:19:56] And so, you know, I, I got my daddy's nose.

[00:19:58] My sister would tell you that that's dad's twin, you know?

[00:20:01] So, so I always thought something was wrong with me that caused me to be in this place.

[00:20:07] And now you asked, did, did we go to counseling?

[00:20:10] There was no counselor, but I had the chief counselor.

[00:20:13] Come on.

[00:20:15] And that was all I knew.

[00:20:17] Because one thing about it, the, the church that we grew up in was a deliverance.

[00:20:21] It was a Baptist church, but he did deliverance.

[00:20:23] And so I would see some of the things that would transpire when he had the Friday night

[00:20:29] deliverance services, or he would call like inquire her.

[00:20:32] So, cause then we get ready to go through deliverance with some things.

[00:20:35] And so, and so I remember, um, um, saying to myself, I was sitting in my room and I would

[00:20:42] just say to myself, you know, if, if, if Oprah could forgive, or at least we had perceived

[00:20:49] that there was forgiveness.

[00:20:51] Why can't I forgive?

[00:20:52] And then I began to look at the life of the person.

[00:20:56] That's it.

[00:20:57] And so when I gave my life to Christ, the Lord reminded me that I'll make your enemy,

[00:21:03] your footstool.

[00:21:04] He said, so see, you didn't even have to get revenge.

[00:21:07] You didn't even have to do anything to, to get your leg back.

[00:21:11] Because if you paid attention immediately, I have fought for you immediately.

[00:21:18] Vengeance was, was mine, said the Lord.

[00:21:20] And so, and so I didn't have a counselor.

[00:21:23] I didn't have a therapist.

[00:21:24] I didn't have a psychiatrist.

[00:21:26] Listen, that don't mean that I couldn't benefit from it.

[00:21:29] Cause honey, I was angry.

[00:21:30] I was angry and I was going to fight anything that looked like it wanted to maybe think

[00:21:33] about kind of sort of probably fight me or say something crazy to me.

[00:21:37] You looked at me too long.

[00:21:38] It was a problem.

[00:21:38] We was going to fight.

[00:21:39] And so the anger, yeah.

[00:21:46] I want to go back to something because, because I'm resonating with everything that you said.

[00:21:51] Cause I was the ugly duckling in my family.

[00:21:53] I was the one that, you know, they all modeled or did something and I wasn't as cute as them.

[00:21:57] And, you know, I wasn't, you know, I'm a skinny and teeny tiny and I was tall, you know,

[00:22:02] so I looked different.

[00:22:05] And so, you know, I came from the man who, you know, physically abused, you know, so,

[00:22:11] so I had that trauma, you know what I mean?

[00:22:13] So I understand what you're saying, but I want to get back to just real quick.

[00:22:17] This is a touch.

[00:22:18] Cause I think people need to understand when you said that you had to forgive the forgiveness

[00:22:23] piece.

[00:22:23] Because forgiveness is about elevation.

[00:22:26] Forgiveness is for us to be able to really walk in who God has called us to be.

[00:22:31] Forgiveness is about freedom in us, right?

[00:22:34] So let's, I want to just talk about the forgiveness process because the question is, and I ask this

[00:22:39] question whenever I speak on this is how do you forgive the unforgivable?

[00:22:44] Forgiveness is for us to be able to forgive us.

[00:22:44] And not that anything is unforgivable, but we always got that one thing we can hold on to

[00:22:49] and say, I can't forgive you for doing that to me, you know, but happen to forgive somebody

[00:22:55] for taking something from me that I can never give back.

[00:23:01] So I think that's the doctrine of the culture.

[00:23:05] Yes.

[00:23:05] Tell us that there is a, there is some sin or some, some act towards us.

[00:23:11] That's unforgivable.

[00:23:12] Yes.

[00:23:13] But in the book, I talk about Judas was in the inner circle with Christ and Christ knew

[00:23:25] exactly what his mantle was, exactly what his deal was, exactly what his attitude was,

[00:23:33] exactly what his job was, exactly what he was supposed to do.

[00:23:40] Yes.

[00:23:40] Yes.

[00:23:40] Yet he still fed him.

[00:23:44] He still shepherded him.

[00:23:46] He still discipled him and he still drew him close.

[00:23:50] So there is for me, no unforgivable sin because one thing about it, the Bible says in Matthew

[00:23:56] six, when he teaches us the Lord's prayer, he says, pray ye after this manner.

[00:24:00] And we know what goes, our father, which art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.

[00:24:03] Then I'm going to fast forward it.

[00:24:04] It says, forgive me of my debts.

[00:24:07] Yes.

[00:24:09] And there are two words that we tend to forget.

[00:24:14] Once we get to the other side of the forgive others.

[00:24:17] It says, forgive me of my debt.

[00:24:22] Some versions say my trespasses.

[00:24:24] The two words is as we.

[00:24:29] In other words, it's a cause and effect situation.

[00:25:02] It's a situation.

[00:25:03] And I'm going to be really, really careful with this cultural doctrine, especially the African

[00:25:07] American community.

[00:25:08] Now, I'm not saying it does not resonate to other ethnicities and cultures out there, but

[00:25:13] it is something that is a distraction and an idol to the African American community that

[00:25:18] we all need to seek help and deliverance from.

[00:25:20] Let me tell you something.

[00:25:22] There is no unforgivable sin.

[00:25:24] And I want to help the other generation, because this is something I talk to my dad about a lot.

[00:25:28] Leave Mr. So-and-so white man alone.

[00:25:31] Because if he's dead and gone on, he got to answer to what he did to you.

[00:25:37] So leave Mr. Charlie alone.

[00:25:39] Leave Mr. John alone.

[00:25:40] Leave Master alone.

[00:25:41] Leave them people alone.

[00:25:42] Because guess what?

[00:25:43] You are yet here with blood running yet through your veins.

[00:25:46] Good and warm.

[00:25:47] And you have another chance for repentance and forgiveness.

[00:25:50] Leave them folk alone.

[00:25:52] Because if they're dead and gone, and they didn't have the ability or the knowledge to

[00:25:57] repent, they're going to get the judgment.

[00:26:00] But while you are here, leave them people alone.

[00:26:03] Forgive them.

[00:26:05] I refuse, and I'm getting ready to help somebody and gain some enemies too.

[00:26:09] I refuse to hold on to the traumas of ancestors and people who I didn't even know,

[00:26:17] who I didn't even, listen, that ain't my fight.

[00:26:19] My fight is to ensure that what they went through don't happen in this lineage.

[00:26:24] Well, what you saying, preacher?

[00:26:25] I'm glad you asked.

[00:26:26] In other words, I got to ensure that my bloodline from here on out is free.

[00:26:32] It's free.

[00:26:33] It's free.

[00:26:34] And you said something.

[00:26:35] And you said something.

[00:26:36] And I see where you're at.

[00:26:38] And I see that you, listen, I went through this, and I refuse to be held captive.

[00:26:43] I refuse to be bound by what happened to me yesterday.

[00:26:46] I'm not giving anybody any power because I want to walk in the fullness of God.

[00:26:50] And what you said was that Jesus knew his total full calling.

[00:26:55] He knew who he was.

[00:26:57] So at the point that you knew who you were, is that when you were able to forgive?

[00:27:02] Or did you forgive before you fully knew who God had called you to be?

[00:27:07] That's when I was able to understand the power and the necessity and the fortitude of forgiveness.

[00:27:14] And then watch this.

[00:27:15] As soon as I had understanding, I got tested.

[00:27:20] See, see, see, you ever watch a criminal show and someone who's wanting to get an insanity plea,

[00:27:28] they got to stand before a psychiatrist or some kind of doctor to see if they're fit to stand trial.

[00:27:34] It's the same way in the Holy Ghost.

[00:27:35] When you say you want to forgive, trust and believe God is getting ready to put you for a test to see if you're fit to stand trial.

[00:27:43] Oh, I went through one.

[00:27:44] You're ready to really do what you're claiming you want to do.

[00:27:48] So, see, see, see, you want peace.

[00:27:50] Then you better be ready for the test of the chaos that's going to come to see.

[00:27:53] Did you really want that peace or did it just sound good?

[00:27:56] I want to help God's people.

[00:27:57] I'm trying not to, I'm trying not to get stirred in this house.

[00:27:59] Bishop, you want to make me preach.

[00:28:01] It's just, it just, it get heavy on me sometimes.

[00:28:04] Prophet is going to get heavy on me sometimes and I don't know how to lift that thing.

[00:28:07] But you're going to ask God for something.

[00:28:10] Come on, then you better be ready for the test that comes.

[00:28:13] How do I know I was really ready to walk in the anointing of forgiveness?

[00:28:18] It's because when I got tested, when my ex-husband left me for a stripper and had a baby after I lost three of his.

[00:28:25] And then, watch this, he came to my new husband's house to beg bread.

[00:28:28] And I fed him and had nothing, no offense in my house when I fed him.

[00:28:32] And then I gave him clothes.

[00:28:33] I gave him food.

[00:28:34] And then, watch this, when he was with the other, other baby mama, I was in the birthing room.

[00:28:38] I want you to understand that when you really say you're going to forgive somebody, you better make sure that you're showing that you're showing.

[00:28:45] Because forgiveness is not lip service.

[00:28:47] It's a lifestyle.

[00:28:50] And what you said, first of all, you say, you say for real, you say for real.

[00:28:54] You woke my preacher man up.

[00:28:56] But let me tell you, and what you just said, really, and everyone needs to understand that.

[00:29:02] When is time for elevation?

[00:29:05] When you ask God for something.

[00:29:06] Bishop, I said to the Lord, I said, God, I want more of you.

[00:29:10] I want more of you.

[00:29:11] God said, you want more of me?

[00:29:12] Go on a fast.

[00:29:13] I went on a three-day fast, Bishop.

[00:29:15] Three-day fast.

[00:29:17] When I broke the fast, I was waiting to hear instructions from the Lord on what he wanted me to do.

[00:29:23] Because I asked God for more of his glory.

[00:29:26] My phone rang, and it was my father.

[00:29:29] The man that did all of these horrible things to my sister and my mother.

[00:29:34] And the Lord said, he said to me, I need you to forgive me.

[00:29:38] That was the first thing he said.

[00:29:40] He said, I'm just calling.

[00:29:41] Please don't hang up on me.

[00:29:43] I'm just calling because I need your forgiveness.

[00:29:45] And the Lord said, I need you to forgive him.

[00:29:47] And I forgave him.

[00:29:48] And then he asked me to pray for him.

[00:29:50] Now, he didn't know I knew how to pray.

[00:29:51] And I began to pray for him.

[00:29:53] And as I began to go into the holies of holy for him, the Lord said, you just broke it off your bloodline.

[00:29:58] So what you're saying, and people need to understand that forgiveness, it frees you, but it breaks the curse off your bloodline.

[00:30:06] It does.

[00:30:07] It frees those that come after you.

[00:30:10] You know, so it breaks you and nobody else got to go through this trauma.

[00:30:14] It stops with me.

[00:30:15] It breaks not only your bloodline, but it breaks every blood covenant.

[00:30:22] Every blood covenant.

[00:30:23] You.

[00:30:25] You.

[00:30:26] It breaks.

[00:30:28] Because, because see, see, see, see, see, we always talk about our ancestors.

[00:30:32] And that's why the Bible said we got to hit some stuff seven to 10 generations back.

[00:30:35] Right?

[00:30:35] It talks about that in the book of Exodus and the New Testament.

[00:30:38] You got to go kill some stuff seven to 10 generations ago because you don't know, number one, how far back you came from.

[00:30:46] And see, my folk come from, my people come from Louisiana.

[00:30:48] So, so, so, so, so I know that there's some mulatto in me.

[00:30:53] I know that there's some creole in me.

[00:30:54] I know that there's some French in me.

[00:30:57] I know that there's some pieces of African in me.

[00:30:59] I know my mama said there's some Native American in me.

[00:31:02] We're Chickasaw and Choctaw.

[00:31:06] So, so, so, so, so they, they, those are spiritual principalities.

[00:31:10] So, I know that there was some witches and warlocks in my bloodline.

[00:31:13] I know that there was some child sacrifices done in my bloodline.

[00:31:16] I understand.

[00:31:18] Yes, yes.

[00:31:19] What was connected to my bloodline.

[00:31:22] So, I got to make sure it stops with me.

[00:31:24] I got to make sure I kill it.

[00:31:25] And that's one of the things that the Lord afforded me to do in the book was to first apologize.

[00:31:30] I apologize to my children.

[00:31:32] You know why?

[00:31:32] Because you didn't originally get the best version of your mama.

[00:31:36] Come on.

[00:31:37] I apologize to my husband because you didn't get the best version of your wife.

[00:31:41] You had a woman who has a couple of bags left.

[00:31:44] You had a woman who still has some extra luggage that didn't all the way.

[00:31:47] So, so, so, so, so when he, he would, he would be on the phone and it could be innocent

[00:31:52] and he turned that phone over.

[00:31:53] Now, now I'm going to neck itching and I'm tweaking because I'm thinking why you turning

[00:31:57] the phone over?

[00:31:57] Because I understood that I wasn't the best version of myself.

[00:32:01] I wasn't the best version of myself.

[00:32:04] That's so good, Bishop.

[00:32:06] That's good.

[00:32:07] That's good right there.

[00:32:08] I apologize to my parents' woman of God because I made some mistakes.

[00:32:13] I called you some late night crying.

[00:32:15] I called you some late night arguing.

[00:32:18] I called you some late night staying up wondering when my backside was going to get on the other

[00:32:22] side of the doorstep.

[00:32:24] I caused you some anguish and now I need to apologize because I got to make sure that history

[00:32:30] don't repeat itself.

[00:32:32] Thank you, Lord.

[00:32:34] Thank you, Lord.

[00:32:35] And then I had to apologize to the ministry that God had put me over to shepherd because

[00:32:43] you know what?

[00:32:44] There's going to be some mistakes, but I promise you the correction is coming in love.

[00:32:48] It's going to be some times when I got to be tough and hard on you, but I promise you

[00:32:52] it's to prune you and suppress you.

[00:32:53] It's going to be some times when I get a flashback of what could have been or where I was.

[00:32:59] And so now I got to push real hard on you.

[00:33:01] No, no, no.

[00:33:01] You ain't ready to be a pastor yet because I got to help you get rid of some of that pride.

[00:33:05] No, no, no.

[00:33:05] You ain't ready to be a prophet yet because I got to rid you of the sexual perversion.

[00:33:09] Come on.

[00:33:10] I see when you see a big booty walk through the, I see what's on the inside of you and

[00:33:16] I see what you're trying to have.

[00:33:17] So no, no, no, no, no.

[00:33:18] I can't pull you up to this pulpit until we get you.

[00:33:21] Come on.

[00:33:22] Come on.

[00:33:22] Come on.

[00:33:22] Come on.

[00:33:23] And that's the part that we don't understand.

[00:33:26] So I had to apologize to them because what you think is me being hard on you or what you

[00:33:31] think is me not understanding is really me saving your life.

[00:33:34] And if you're ready to leave this church because you can't have your way, the first thing I'm

[00:33:38] going to do is hold the door open for you because listen, I didn't cry a whole lot of

[00:33:42] nights.

[00:33:43] I didn't set up a whole lot of nights.

[00:33:44] I didn't fasted a whole lot of days when you got a piece of cardboard smelling like

[00:33:48] chicken.

[00:33:48] When I wanted that fried chicken and I wanted the Dr. Pepper and the turtles.

[00:33:51] But in other words, I got to sit there and just look at it and rock a little because

[00:33:55] I know that's what I wanted.

[00:33:56] I didn't want to taste that I wanted, but I had to sit there and just take a long swallow

[00:34:00] because I knew that I couldn't break that fast until you had a breakthrough.

[00:34:04] So if you don't understand the sacrifices that I'm making to lead you correctly, then let

[00:34:08] me go ahead and hold the door open for you.

[00:34:10] Come on.

[00:34:11] And I just need a one commercial break, a commercial break real quick.

[00:34:15] What's the turtles, Bishop?

[00:34:18] What are the turtles?

[00:34:20] Listen.

[00:34:21] Bishop.

[00:34:22] Now listen, y'all.

[00:34:24] Y'all got to get the book and you got to reach out.

[00:34:26] Is it page 16?

[00:34:27] Page number 16.

[00:34:28] Page number 16.

[00:34:29] Y'all repay 16 because page 16, you're going to need your Dr. Pepper and you're going to

[00:34:34] need your turtle.

[00:34:35] Okay?

[00:34:35] We're going to find out what the turtle is.

[00:34:38] Yes.

[00:34:39] Here we go.

[00:34:39] Dr. Pepper and turtles.

[00:34:42] We're going to find out what this turtle is.

[00:34:43] Yes.

[00:34:45] Everybody that knows me and this is my plug.

[00:34:48] So y'all need to go ahead and sponsor us, right?

[00:34:51] Dr. Pepper.

[00:34:52] Diet Dr. Pepper.

[00:34:53] Diet Dr. Pepper.

[00:34:54] Dr. Pepper.

[00:34:56] And Demet's turtles.

[00:34:59] It's a chocolate caramel pecan cluster.

[00:35:02] And my husband buys them for me all the time.

[00:35:05] I put them in the freezer and I let them get the right texture of hardness with an ice

[00:35:11] cold Dr. Pepper and I promise you everything is all right after that.

[00:35:15] Can you send me a picture?

[00:35:17] I'm going to send you a picture.

[00:35:18] Yes.

[00:35:19] All right.

[00:35:19] Send me a picture so I can post it because we need to know what the turtle look like,

[00:35:22] y'all.

[00:35:22] I'm going to drop it here somewhere.

[00:35:23] When she sent me a picture, I'm going to drop it in this video.

[00:35:26] As a matter of step.

[00:35:27] This turtle.

[00:35:28] You have a turtle we can see.

[00:35:29] We want to see a turtle.

[00:35:30] Where's your husband?

[00:35:31] Y'all have running here with a turtle.

[00:35:33] Yes.

[00:35:35] Let me join us with this turtle.

[00:35:36] We want to see this turtle.

[00:35:38] Yes.

[00:35:39] I'm a vegetarian.

[00:35:40] Oh, man.

[00:35:40] She ain't eating turtles.

[00:35:43] I don't know what's going on my eye today.

[00:35:46] I don't know if it's a piece of hair, y'all.

[00:35:48] Y'all forgive me.

[00:35:49] So I'm going to send this picture to you.

[00:35:51] Okay.

[00:35:52] This was a part of my photo shoot.

[00:35:54] That's the turtles, y'all.

[00:35:56] That's the turtle.

[00:35:57] Okay.

[00:35:57] We need turtle and Dr. Pepper.

[00:36:00] We probably can get these turtles on Amazon.

[00:36:02] I'm almost sure.

[00:36:04] You can go to the Walgreens, the Walmart, the CVS, the Target, and I promise y'all most of

[00:36:09] the time they write up there by the register.

[00:36:13] But if you want the bigger box, like my husband likes to give me the bigger boxes, they over

[00:36:17] in the chocolate app.

[00:36:18] He's a good man.

[00:36:18] He's a good man.

[00:36:19] My husband bring me home Snickers.

[00:36:21] I get Snickers.

[00:36:23] I'm here with a Snickers and a brownie from Wawa.

[00:36:26] All right.

[00:36:27] Yeah.

[00:36:27] All right.

[00:36:28] This is so good and it's so powerful because you, we're not surprised anymore how many young

[00:36:35] women and men and men go through trauma, especially sexual abuse at a young age.

[00:36:43] And truly to be at a place where you can talk about it, because it goes either way, either

[00:36:50] somebody, I mean, you find them in their 60s sometimes holding on to what uncle so-and-so

[00:36:56] did and what cousin so-and-so did.

[00:36:58] And they can't have a good relationship.

[00:37:00] They never lived their whole life.

[00:37:02] They could never, you know, really have a sexual encounters.

[00:37:07] You know, they couldn't be touched properly.

[00:37:10] You know, they were taken advantage of all because they held onto this trauma and they

[00:37:15] weren't able to really walk in their full self because of what happened to them.

[00:37:21] And for you to come on and share with us your testimony, but also how you were able

[00:37:27] to be free.

[00:37:28] I think the most important part, if there is an important part, and what I said was, you

[00:37:32] know, cause I remember thinking to myself, I can't ever forgive somebody for something

[00:37:35] like that.

[00:37:36] Like it's so unforgivable once you do that.

[00:37:37] And then the Lord, just like you said, I looked at my life and said, what if God never

[00:37:42] forgave me?

[00:37:43] You know, what if God, I need God to forgive me.

[00:37:47] I can't hold on.

[00:37:48] I need the Lord to forgive me.

[00:37:49] And then to go on and talk about how you went through that forgiveness.

[00:37:53] Were you ever able to talk to that person again?

[00:37:55] Were you ever able to go back and cause I heard a girl a couple of days ago, so she went

[00:38:00] back and she was able even to pray for the person and bless them.

[00:38:04] And, you know, cause I know you talk about it candidly and I'm sure you got it in your

[00:38:07] book.

[00:38:08] So was there something that you said, listen, I'm releasing this in my book.

[00:38:11] I'm going to talk about this openly and how did, cause I'm sure you told your church.

[00:38:18] I'm sure everyone knows about it.

[00:38:19] And I'm sure people gravitate to you for this testimony because somebody has trauma and

[00:38:25] they're like, Bishop, I need help.

[00:38:26] Bishop, I'm trying to let it go, but I'm struggling.

[00:38:29] Bishop, I'm trying to forgive.

[00:38:30] I hear what you're saying.

[00:38:31] I want to leave them people alone over there.

[00:38:33] I want God to get them, but I want to get them to Bishop.

[00:38:35] Bishop.

[00:38:36] Yeah.

[00:38:36] Yeah.

[00:38:38] How do you, how do you counsel and what would you say to them?

[00:38:43] So, so this goes back really to the conversation that if you ever really truly say you want

[00:38:48] to forgive someone, you're going to be tested in that area.

[00:38:50] And so I watched this person very quickly and rapidly, um, self-destruct with substance abuse

[00:38:59] and substance use.

[00:39:00] Um, and I remember, um, I was married to my then first husband, um, and we were living in

[00:39:06] Bolingbrook and this same cousin called me on the phone and he was like, I'm sick.

[00:39:11] I'm sick.

[00:39:12] And I need to get, uh, I think that, I think the stuff was called methadone.

[00:39:17] I'm not really, uh, yeah.

[00:39:20] And he was like, I'm sick and I need your help.

[00:39:22] And I said, what can I do?

[00:39:25] Because at that point, listen, there's no need for me to have any offense in my heart.

[00:39:29] There's no need for me to have any art and you're free.

[00:39:32] And so I'm free.

[00:39:33] And so I said, what can I do?

[00:39:35] Can I, can I go and bring you to a, uh, uh, some type of facility?

[00:39:40] Can I try to research the facility?

[00:39:41] Is there a way, excuse me, that I can assist you in, in, in getting better?

[00:39:48] Um, give, you know, I needed to do research on the whole methadone stuff.

[00:39:51] Cause I didn't really know much about it.

[00:39:53] And, you know, but, but, but, but my whole thing was.

[00:39:57] If there was a way that I can help you be free, then I'm going to help you be free.

[00:40:01] That's right.

[00:40:02] And so my most recent time seeing him was, uh, uh, last year in May at a birthday party.

[00:40:11] And when I saw him and he had the biggest smile on his face when he saw me and I embraced him wholeheartedly, you know why?

[00:40:20] Because maybe that's the embrace that he needs to be free.

[00:40:24] I don't know.

[00:40:25] I don't know if it was going to free him.

[00:40:27] I don't know if it was going to cause him to really cry out to the Lord.

[00:40:30] What must I do to be saved?

[00:40:31] I don't know, but I embraced him and I embraced him in fullness and totality because guess what?

[00:40:38] I'm free.

[00:40:39] You're free.

[00:40:40] I don't wish any hurt, harm or danger on you.

[00:40:42] As a matter of fact, I want to pray with you and for you to ensure that at some point that taste is snatched from you so that you can really, really be whole so that it doesn't continue to trickle down your, your bloodline and your generations.

[00:40:55] But there was no art or offense in my heart because one thing I knew was that he said that vengeance is mine.

[00:41:03] He said, I'll fight your battle.

[00:41:05] And my mom raised me on Psalms 110.

[00:41:07] And so when I, when I began to understand that he said, he said, the Lord said to my Lord, I'll make your enemy, your footstool.

[00:41:15] That meant he said he was going to make that enemy.

[00:41:19] It was no longer going to be able to raise up or rise up against you because he was getting ready to put it under your feet.

[00:41:24] And so when I understood that and I saw what he was going through and I saw that he was literally stuck in this continuum of abuse there, what, what, why am I, what, what good or addition is my hate or disdain for him going to do?

[00:41:41] Yes.

[00:41:42] Yes.

[00:41:43] And even as you speak, I hear the Lord say that you just have a grateful heart.

[00:41:48] Oh, Jesus.

[00:41:50] I hear the Lord say grateful heart.

[00:41:52] I just see a grateful heart.

[00:41:53] And that's what it's like.

[00:41:54] And most people don't understand if you don't understand what I'm saying.

[00:41:57] Your heart is so grateful.

[00:41:59] You're like, Lord, I just thank you that you can't even hold on to nothing.

[00:42:03] I can't even hold on to this because my, I just hear a grateful heart and a heart of compassion.

[00:42:09] And I just, even as you speak, I thought, I just heard the Lord say grateful heart.

[00:42:12] It's a grateful heart.

[00:42:15] I'm sorry.

[00:42:18] I don't, I don't.

[00:42:19] I don't know if, if, if we are made in the image of Christ, right?

[00:42:24] Because he said, let us make man in our image.

[00:42:27] Right.

[00:42:27] That's what he said.

[00:42:28] And then he tells me I'm fearfully and wonderfully made.

[00:42:31] Right.

[00:42:31] Then he tells me I'm the righteousness of Christ.

[00:42:33] And then I'm the apple of his eye.

[00:42:36] When he went on the cross, he did it because he knew somewhere along the line, a little old black girl from Chicago that was countrified by way of Louisiana was going to have some trauma that she was going to go through.

[00:42:48] So he said, I'm going to go ahead and complete this work on the cross.

[00:42:50] And then when the Bible said, he said, it is finished.

[00:42:55] It's finished.

[00:42:57] So, so, so, so why not test him and see if he'd be the God that he says he is?

[00:43:05] Why not count it all joy through these diverse trials and tribulations?

[00:43:10] Why not forgive to ensure that you're forgiven?

[00:43:13] Why not extend grace so that the same grace that you extend can be made available for you?

[00:43:18] The Bible says, may sin continue that grace may abound.

[00:43:21] In other words, watch this practice sin.

[00:43:25] I didn't say sin practice it because when you practice something, you're doing it to perfect it.

[00:43:30] So you're going to continue to practice sin because you think grace is going to be bountiful.

[00:43:35] And someday the collective man going to come.

[00:43:40] And someday you're going to run out of that grace.

[00:43:44] And someday that, that, that mercy, watch this, that endureth until the end ain't going to be made available.

[00:43:51] Why?

[00:43:51] Because you couldn't forgive somebody else.

[00:43:54] He said, forgive as I forgive those who have sinned and debt against me.

[00:43:59] Then he came right back after that and said, now, leave me not into temptation.

[00:44:03] So watch this.

[00:44:04] I'm asking for forgiveness.

[00:44:05] And then I'm asking you to guide my feet and hold my trembling hand.

[00:44:09] I'm asking you to be a layup of my feet and a light to my path.

[00:44:13] I'm asking you to carry me and to guide me and to keep me because you're a covenant keeping God.

[00:44:18] The Bible said he's a keeper.

[00:44:19] So I'm asking you and I'm trusting you enough to say, I want this whole lifestyle of forgiveness because I know you ain't going to lead me into temptation.

[00:44:57] Thank you, son.

[00:44:57] I'm asking you to give me a cigarette no sooner.

[00:44:58] May the Lord wash between me and thee.

[00:45:00] And then I'm going to my new point.

[00:45:01] And so why it, what would it cost me?

[00:45:05] Come on, Bishop.

[00:45:06] To forgive.

[00:45:08] But it could cost me everything to not.

[00:45:10] To not forgive.

[00:45:11] I said a man built a house.

[00:45:13] He got to count up the car.

[00:45:14] You got to have, Lord Jesus, have mercy.

[00:45:16] God gave me this revelation two days ago driving in the car.

[00:45:20] And I said, Lord, I don't even know where I'm supposed to apply this.

[00:45:22] But I said, Holy Ghost.

[00:45:25] Watch this.

[00:45:26] When you are getting ready to purchase a home, you got to make sure your credit is in order.

[00:45:32] You got to make sure you got your down payment.

[00:45:35] You got to make sure your earnest money is tight.

[00:45:37] You got to make sure that there's accidentals, incidentals, and oopsidentals set to the side for anything that may go awry.

[00:45:44] And you got to go through all of these different things.

[00:45:46] And then watch this.

[00:45:47] You have a loan originator who's going to tell you what you can afford.

[00:45:51] Not actually what you want to afford, but they tell you what you can afford.

[00:45:54] And then once you get through the loan originator and you get the process done, the application done, and you find the home that you want, now you got to come across this thing called an underwriter.

[00:46:05] Come on.

[00:46:06] And the underwriter going to scrutinize everything, every bill, every penny, every payment.

[00:46:13] And they're going to scrutinize everything to tell you that you're worthy or unworthy of obtaining.

[00:46:18] Watch this, this debt that you're going to carry for the next 20 to 30 years that you got to make a monthly on-time payment.

[00:46:24] And any time you miss it, they can come collect that home from you.

[00:46:27] But what if we made preparations?

[00:46:30] Watch this.

[00:46:30] For the same.

[00:46:32] Hey, quote, I shall tell you.

[00:46:33] What if we made preparations for the same home?

[00:46:36] I'm talking about the building not made by the hands of men.

[00:46:39] I'm talking about the one where he said, I go to prepare a place for you.

[00:46:42] I'm talking about the building not coming back in a twinkle of an eye.

[00:46:46] I'm going to step upon that cloud.

[00:46:47] I'm going to blow the trumpet and then I'm collecting what belongs to me.

[00:46:50] What if we made all of those preparations?

[00:46:53] What if we took the time to make sure our spiritual credit was right?

[00:46:56] What if we made the time to make sure we had earnest money?

[00:46:59] Well, what is earnest money?

[00:47:00] Have you prayed lately?

[00:47:01] Have you stored up prayer?

[00:47:03] Have you stored up worship?

[00:47:04] Have you stored up praise?

[00:47:06] Have you stored up intercession?

[00:47:07] What do you mean, have you stored it up?

[00:47:09] Are you still praying just for you or did you start praying for your sister too?

[00:47:13] Have you prayed for your brother too?

[00:47:14] So what if when the underwriter come and say, watch this, because the Bible says he's sitting

[00:47:20] at the right hand of the Father making intercession for us.

[00:47:22] What if that underwriter say, they are qualified to purchase this home because they forgave.

[00:47:29] They repented.

[00:47:30] Remember when they came to you and said, such as I am.

[00:47:33] Watch this.

[00:47:34] Create in me a clean heart and renew a righteousness in me.

[00:47:37] Oh God, my redeemer.

[00:47:39] Watch this when they say, let the redeemer of the Lord say so.

[00:47:41] And I prophetically declare them on my life that I am redeemed.

[00:47:45] So then the underwriter, because he's the advocate for it, say they qualify.

[00:47:50] Yes.

[00:47:52] And then closing day comes.

[00:47:54] We get real excited for closing day.

[00:47:57] We love closing day.

[00:47:58] We love closing day.

[00:47:59] We get real excited for closing day in the natural because it means we getting ready to

[00:48:03] get some cheese.

[00:48:04] Yes.

[00:48:04] It means we get ready to get some cheese.

[00:48:06] It means we get ready to allow a whole new something for us.

[00:48:09] We get to get new furniture.

[00:48:10] We get to get a new, new, new food.

[00:48:13] Come on.

[00:48:13] It's something about buying a new house that won't make you go out of new food.

[00:48:16] Food you ain't never even tasted before, but now you want to buy a new food because you

[00:48:19] got a new house.

[00:48:20] So what happens when closing day comes?

[00:48:22] What does that mean?

[00:48:23] He steps upon a cloud.

[00:48:25] The trumpet sound.

[00:48:26] Come on.

[00:48:26] Because ain't no time to get ready.

[00:48:28] You got to be ready.

[00:48:28] Come on.

[00:48:29] I want to remind you of the five foolish, the five wise versions.

[00:48:34] Come on.

[00:48:34] The five wise had enough for the journey, for the wait, and for the win.

[00:48:40] Can I help God's people today?

[00:48:41] They understood that when the bridegroom came, he closed that door.

[00:48:45] Wasn't no more going back out.

[00:48:46] Wasn't nobody else coming in.

[00:48:47] So what would it cost me to forgive when it could cost me closing day?

[00:48:55] Hey, it can cost me closing day if I don't.

[00:49:00] And I'm going to get my keys.

[00:49:02] And I'm going to get my keys.

[00:49:03] What your keys look like, Bishop?

[00:49:05] It looked like the crown.

[00:49:06] Yeah.

[00:49:07] It looked like the crown of life.

[00:49:08] Come on.

[00:49:09] Y'all know the song that they play at everybody funeral.

[00:49:11] We shall wear a crown.

[00:49:12] Come on.

[00:49:13] You know what that song said.

[00:49:14] Listen, are you ready for your keys so that you can access the promises of God?

[00:49:19] So you can access keys.

[00:49:22] So it cost me nothing.

[00:49:24] You can access.

[00:49:25] It cost me nothing to forgive with my whole heart.

[00:49:28] Yes.

[00:49:29] Yes.

[00:49:30] Because if you want the reciprocity of God's forgiveness, you got to forgive them.

[00:49:35] And it didn't stop there.

[00:49:36] That don't mean the Bible said you got to forgive 490 times.

[00:49:40] That don't mean it's a limit.

[00:49:41] That just means that's the minimum.

[00:49:43] That's the minimum.

[00:49:45] And most of the time, the time you climb out your bed and get from your bedroom to your driveway,

[00:49:52] you done wasted about 300 of them in to begin with.

[00:49:55] Come on.

[00:49:57] So if you want grace, you got to give grace.

[00:50:00] You want forgiveness, you got to give forgiveness.

[00:50:03] You want mercy.

[00:50:04] You got to give.

[00:50:04] It's all about reciprocity.

[00:50:06] I'm talking about kingdomnomics.

[00:50:10] Kingdom economics.

[00:50:12] Kingdomnomics.

[00:50:13] This is what we need to.

[00:50:15] This is the type of multiplication that we need to be wrapping our minds around.

[00:50:21] I love that.

[00:50:22] You got to teach that kingdom reciprocity.

[00:50:25] That's it, right?

[00:50:26] You got to teach that, Bishop.

[00:50:27] That's good right there.

[00:50:29] Thank you, Lord.

[00:50:30] I'm trying to stay in my seat, Bishop.

[00:50:33] It's hard.

[00:50:34] You just came in here and you just set us on fire.

[00:50:37] And all I want to do is pray right now because I want to go higher.

[00:50:40] And I know, I mean, see, salvation is free, y'all.

[00:50:46] It is.

[00:50:46] But the anointing of God comes with a price.

[00:50:50] This is what the suffering looks like.

[00:50:52] Jesus.

[00:50:53] This is what forgiveness looks like.

[00:50:55] This is what the grace looks like.

[00:50:58] So I thank you for coming and just giving us a true testimony.

[00:51:04] And not just giving it, but walking in it.

[00:51:07] Being a walking example of what love looks like.

[00:51:10] Because that's love.

[00:51:12] It's love.

[00:51:13] It's love.

[00:51:14] It's love.

[00:51:15] I have something to say I can't even remember because I'm still stuck on the keys now.

[00:51:19] Because I'm telling you, I've been seeing keys all year long.

[00:51:23] Everybody, one of these open doors.

[00:51:24] We got open doors and everybody in the same place.

[00:51:26] Nobody even walked through their open doors.

[00:51:28] You got keys and you're not turning nothing.

[00:51:30] But I can't miss closing day, y'all.

[00:51:33] I can't afford to miss closing day.

[00:51:36] I can't miss closing day.

[00:51:37] You can't miss closing day.

[00:51:40] We can't miss closing day.

[00:51:42] So even as we got a little bit of time, but I just want to make sure just for the cheap seats in the back.

[00:51:49] When you're going through your trauma, forgiveness is so powerful.

[00:51:54] And it's not for the other person.

[00:51:57] Forgiveness is for you.

[00:52:00] Giveness is not for them.

[00:52:02] You're not doing anything for the other person.

[00:52:07] Forgiveness is for you.

[00:52:10] Forgiveness breaks the chain and take.

[00:52:12] Go ahead, Bishop.

[00:52:13] Go ahead.

[00:52:14] Because I just want to catch that while you.

[00:52:16] I want to catch it.

[00:52:18] I just want to catch it, woman of God, while you dropped it.

[00:52:21] Because that right there is the trick of the enemy that gets many in trouble.

[00:52:27] Is that we put the focus on the other people.

[00:52:31] Yes.

[00:52:31] Yes.

[00:52:32] And half of the time, they're just the chosen vessel that yielded themselves to the trick and the works of the enemy.

[00:52:38] So can we please stop looking at them, they, those, and thou?

[00:52:42] Yes.

[00:52:42] Because we wrestle not against flesh and blood, y'all.

[00:52:45] They were just the ones who yielded themselves.

[00:52:47] I know it's, I know they, I know the appearance of them hurt you bad.

[00:52:53] Hear me what I'm saying.

[00:52:54] I know that, that what they did and what they were used to, how they were used to function.

[00:52:59] It cost you, it hurt you some kind of good.

[00:53:02] But stop looking at them.

[00:53:06] Because something else was in operation.

[00:53:09] Right?

[00:53:09] And that's one of the biggest woman of God distractions that the enemy uses.

[00:53:13] Right?

[00:53:14] Well, what about them?

[00:53:15] You know, I teach my son that when, when I'm telling him something, if another child can do something, but you're my child.

[00:53:24] You can't do it.

[00:53:24] Well, what about that?

[00:53:25] I'm not their parent.

[00:53:27] And I don't control what goes on in that household.

[00:53:30] But as for me and my house, that's what I'm welcome to understand.

[00:53:34] Listen, as for me and my house, do y'all know this is the house of God?

[00:53:37] I ain't talking about this building that I'm in, the edifice that I'm in.

[00:53:40] I mean, this is a house of God.

[00:53:42] And so my house, we can't focus on them.

[00:53:46] We cannot, we cannot watch this project.

[00:53:49] We got to deal with us.

[00:53:54] And be okay.

[00:53:55] Catch this in the Holy Ghost, people of God.

[00:53:57] Be okay with the physical apologies you'll never get.

[00:54:00] Stop wanting them.

[00:54:02] Stop needing them.

[00:54:03] Stop needing them.

[00:54:04] And allow God to make us whole.

[00:54:06] So woman of God, you're absolutely right.

[00:54:08] It got nothing to do with the human being that was used for the work of the enemy.

[00:54:13] Because we wrestle not against flesh and blood.

[00:54:15] But this is an internal thing.

[00:54:17] And you, we all should desire reciprocity with him.

[00:54:21] Because Matthew chapter six gives us the formula.

[00:54:25] Now y'all write that down.

[00:54:27] Matthew chapter six gives us the formula.

[00:54:31] Is that six and nine?

[00:54:33] Is that the prayer six and nine?

[00:54:35] Yeah.

[00:54:35] Yeah.

[00:54:36] Let me get to it.

[00:54:37] Because I want to, I want to.

[00:54:40] Give exactness.

[00:54:41] It gives us the formula.

[00:54:43] It says he forgives us as we.

[00:54:46] I think that's six and 12.

[00:54:49] Six, 12.

[00:54:51] Let me pull it up.

[00:54:53] And check and see.

[00:54:54] Because I want y'all to get this.

[00:54:55] I want somebody to be helped on today.

[00:54:58] And one last question for you.

[00:55:01] And then I'll let you close this out.

[00:55:03] One last question for you, Bishop.

[00:55:04] Because somebody going to say this.

[00:55:06] You know, I'm just, I'm just saying.

[00:55:07] Somebody, somebody going to say this.

[00:55:09] She's stronger than me.

[00:55:12] She's stronger.

[00:55:12] I try, I try and I just can't.

[00:55:15] And she's stronger than me.

[00:55:16] Now I'm going to say this to you.

[00:55:18] A lot of times we go to church.

[00:55:19] And people stay long enough to be delivered.

[00:55:22] But not to be made whole.

[00:55:25] That's it.

[00:55:26] Staying to be made whole.

[00:55:27] Yes.

[00:55:28] So what would you say to the person who says,

[00:55:30] I've been trying.

[00:55:32] But she just, I hear what she's saying.

[00:55:34] But she's stronger than me.

[00:55:36] So in the book, when you get to chapter four,

[00:55:41] My Trauma, My Healing.

[00:55:43] There's four words that I give you.

[00:55:46] And then I'm going to deal with the stronger.

[00:55:48] Because there's no such thing.

[00:55:50] Watch this.

[00:55:51] So the four words that I give you is think, believe, know, and do.

[00:55:54] If you think you can be healed,

[00:55:56] then you need to believe that you're healed.

[00:55:59] Right?

[00:56:00] Then once the belief is there, then you'll know.

[00:56:02] Right?

[00:56:02] Because how do you deal with doubt and unbelief?

[00:56:05] By putting belief there.

[00:56:06] And then you know.

[00:56:07] Once you know, that means you're certain.

[00:56:09] Right?

[00:56:10] And so after the certainty comes,

[00:56:11] there's nothing else for you to do but walk it out.

[00:56:14] But here is how the enemy tricks us into,

[00:56:18] Oh, such and such is stronger than me.

[00:56:20] No, I'm not stronger.

[00:56:21] I may be more surrendered than you.

[00:56:23] But I'm not.

[00:56:24] Come on, say it again.

[00:56:25] Just say that again.

[00:56:26] So I may be more surrendered in this area than you.

[00:56:30] But I'm not stronger.

[00:56:32] Right?

[00:56:32] Because greater is he that is enemy than he that is in the world.

[00:56:35] The joy of the Lord is my strength.

[00:56:36] I got nothing without him.

[00:56:39] So I am not stronger than you, you, you or you.

[00:56:43] I watched this.

[00:56:44] My sin is no greater than yours.

[00:56:46] My struggle.

[00:56:47] Catch this is no greater than yours.

[00:56:49] At this moment.

[00:56:50] I'm just more surrendered in this area.

[00:56:53] Yes.

[00:56:54] Than you are.

[00:56:55] But the purpose of the book is to help you get there and watch this.

[00:56:59] My prayer is that you surpass me.

[00:57:02] That you surpass me in this area of surrendering.

[00:57:07] I'm not stronger than you.

[00:57:09] Because it's not by my might nor by my power.

[00:57:11] But it's by his spirit.

[00:57:12] Only by his spirit.

[00:57:13] Yes.

[00:57:14] Yes.

[00:57:14] Yes.

[00:57:14] There's nothing that I can.

[00:57:16] I got nothing.

[00:57:18] I'm just the surrendered vessel.

[00:57:20] I'm just a yielded vessel.

[00:57:22] That came to the understanding only through the grace of God.

[00:57:26] That enough was enough.

[00:57:28] Thank you, Lord.

[00:57:29] And that it was time for him to take over.

[00:57:31] Because I hadn't jacked it up enough.

[00:57:34] Thank you, Father.

[00:57:35] I messed it up enough.

[00:57:35] I had to, excuse me, I had been running for a long time.

[00:57:40] And finally ran into the big brick wall called Christ.

[00:57:43] Thank you, Lord.

[00:57:43] Thank you, Lord.

[00:57:45] So the purpose of this very interactive book is to cause you to stop running in the opposite way.

[00:57:54] Make a bow face and just run to him.

[00:57:56] Because it's all better in him.

[00:57:59] It's all safer in him.

[00:58:01] It's all more in him.

[00:58:04] And so the book, watch this, helps you identify where your trauma came from.

[00:58:09] Because a lot of us don't even know where it came from.

[00:58:11] Sometimes we don't know where it came from.

[00:58:14] Sometimes we don't even understand why we make the decisions.

[00:58:17] We don't know why we out here sleeping around.

[00:58:20] We don't know why we out here drinking.

[00:58:22] We don't know why we're out here smoking.

[00:58:24] We don't know why we're craving this and craving that.

[00:58:26] But this book is going to provoke you to get to the root.

[00:58:30] Because watch this, if I prune the plant, the only thing it's going to do is make the plant grow more.

[00:58:35] But if I snatch the root up, then it kills, watch this, what was helping and nurturing that plant.

[00:58:43] So if you got, watch this, death nurturing you.

[00:58:47] If you have alcoholism nurturing you.

[00:58:50] If you have a sexual promiscuity nurturing you.

[00:58:54] Then it's time to rip that root up and sever the tides.

[00:58:58] So that when a seed is planted, right?

[00:59:04] The seed of Christ is planted in you.

[00:59:06] Now it has good firm foundation to grow on.

[00:59:09] Thank you, Father.

[00:59:11] So no man of God, no woman of God, no child of God.

[00:59:15] I am not stronger than you are.

[00:59:17] I am just, hear me what I'm saying.

[00:59:19] At the moment, more surrendered in this area than you are.

[00:59:23] But my prayer is that with the help of God, with strong deliverance and the assistance of a book that the Lord gave me permission to write.

[00:59:30] You will become more surrendered in whatever area that you're going through.

[00:59:33] If you need to bridle your tongue, I pray you become more surrendered in that area.

[00:59:36] If you need to cut off some folk and let some folk go, I pray you become more surrendered in that area.

[00:59:41] If you need to put the alcohol bottle down, I pray that you stop driving around the corner that the liquor store on.

[00:59:47] And I pray you'll become more surrendered in that area.

[00:59:50] I pray, watch this, the Lord make you forget where all the good weed man at.

[00:59:53] So you can become surrendered in that area so that God can uproot and pluck up the things that are keeping you in the place of money.

[01:00:01] Because who the son sets free, y'all.

[01:00:03] It's free indeed.

[01:00:05] It's free indeed.

[01:00:06] It's free indeed.

[01:00:08] Amen.

[01:00:09] Amen.

[01:00:09] Amen.

[01:00:10] Matthew 6 and 12.

[01:00:13] And forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors.

[01:00:16] Is that what you want?

[01:00:17] You want it, Bishop?

[01:00:18] That's it.

[01:00:18] It's the two words there, woman to God.

[01:00:20] It's the two words.

[01:00:21] As we.

[01:00:23] As we forgive our debtors.

[01:00:26] That's it.

[01:00:27] It's kingdom reciprocity.

[01:00:29] That's it, y'all.

[01:00:31] We are out of time, but I'm excited.

[01:00:33] Let me tell y'all.

[01:00:34] I thought, and I've been thinking about doing a book club, Bishop.

[01:00:38] Okay.

[01:00:39] And now that you, I mean, even as you're speaking, I just hear the Lord.

[01:00:42] He brought it back to me.

[01:00:43] I totally forgot about it.

[01:00:44] I got all this stuff going on.

[01:00:46] And I'm telling you, it is something when we can gather together.

[01:00:50] First of all, there's strength in unity, strength in numbers, and it's to come together.

[01:00:53] And I saw that there are some places and spaces you can write.

[01:00:56] And a lot of times people have forgotten their trauma.

[01:00:59] They have forgotten.

[01:01:01] And when you're able to gather and you're able to talk through it and read and hear what we're saying and have a group of people that you can go through the book with.

[01:01:09] So if anybody gets the book, y'all hit me up and we're going to go through it together.

[01:01:13] Okay.

[01:01:14] And I'm going to contact my prayer team.

[01:01:15] All of y'all go over to the Battlefield of Intercessors prayer page, Battlefield of Intercessors International on Facebook and join us.

[01:01:24] And I'm going to put the link to this book on the page today.

[01:01:28] So you can go and you can click the link.

[01:01:30] And it will also be on YouTube for the YouTube watchers.

[01:01:33] Just look down in the comments below and go ahead and click the link and you can go ahead and purchase the book.

[01:01:40] You want to purchase it.

[01:01:41] If you don't purchase it for yourself, get it for someone else in your family that is dealing with trauma.

[01:01:46] This is Mental Health Month.

[01:01:48] It's Mental Health Month, right?

[01:01:50] So go ahead and get it.

[01:01:51] But first of all, we need mental health every single month.

[01:01:54] So go ahead and get this for your family.

[01:01:56] This year we gave them books for stock and stuffers because we need to get back to reading anyway.

[01:02:00] Okay, we need to pull your paper Bibles back out too because I'm sick of y'all.

[01:02:05] Okay, never mind.

[01:02:06] It's time to get back into work.

[01:02:07] So get your paper Bible.

[01:02:09] Amen.

[01:02:10] Amen.

[01:02:11] Bishop, I thank you for coming on today.

[01:02:15] And I know it's peaceful presence.

[01:02:17] And it is peaceful presence.

[01:02:18] But I just want to call you Bishop because the Bishop showed up today.

[01:02:21] The Bishop showed up today and showed on out.

[01:02:23] And she's a preacher for real, y'all.

[01:02:25] Listen, because I'm telling y'all, I have my tambourine.

[01:02:30] And I can't even be the good.

[01:02:32] Because I felt my preacher man rise up.

[01:02:33] And I said, well, girl, this is your show, but this ain't your conversation.

[01:02:37] Sit back.

[01:02:39] Sit back.

[01:02:41] You want to jump in there.

[01:02:42] I want to jump in the exact same with you.

[01:02:44] But I thank you for coming on and sharing your testimony, your story.

[01:02:49] Would you pray for us and pray for those that heard the word, that are even right now feeling some things and trying to really work their thoughts out how they're going to go before the Lord in prayer.

[01:03:02] And that the spirit of prayer will fall upon them.

[01:03:05] Okay.

[01:03:05] Whatever you want to pray, Pastor Bishop.

[01:03:06] Oh, absolutely.

[01:03:07] Thank you.

[01:03:08] Let us pray.

[01:03:09] Father God, in the name of Jesus.

[01:03:11] Father, we come first to just say thank you, oh God.

[01:03:14] Father, thank you that you loved us enough, God, to give us the space and the dispensation of time to repent and forgive, to be forgiven, oh Father.

[01:03:22] Lord God, we thank you for your undying, unwavering love, your agape love that you have for us.

[01:03:27] Thank you that you came to remind us that love can cover a multitude, oh God.

[01:03:32] That you came, oh God, to remind us that love can cover, oh God, even the biggest things that we think we can't get rid of or we think, oh God, there are too much for us to deal with that we can't conquer, oh God.

[01:03:43] Father, we thank you right now, oh God, for your son or your daughter who's listening, God.

[01:03:47] And during this podcast, God, whether it was live or the replay, Father, you functioned them very strongly and began to remind them of some areas that were not yielded concerning God's forgiveness.

[01:03:57] Father, Lord God, I decree and declare right now in the name of Jesus that they'll first begin to forgive self, God.

[01:04:03] Oh God, that they will walk upright and in wholeness, God, that they will walk yield and according, God, not to the flesh, but according to your will, your word and your purpose, oh God, that you would have for their life, oh Father.

[01:04:14] That they would start with the forgiveness within, oh God.

[01:04:17] And then, Lord God, your word says charity starts at home and then spreads abroad.

[01:04:21] Lord God, let the love that they could have, oh God, for self through you prompt and unction true forgiveness, God, that they can begin to forgive themselves and then forgive others, Lord God.

[01:04:32] Father, we pray for the woman, oh God, who is still stuck in the mindset of the traumatized state of the child.

[01:04:39] Oh God, that you can speak to that child, to that daughter to say, be made whole.

[01:04:43] Father, that woman will go, Lord God.

[01:04:46] Your word tells us it's by confession, Lord God.

[01:04:48] You said if we confess with our mouth and believe in our heart, then we can be saved.

[01:04:52] Lord God, let her begin to confess that she's whole.

[01:04:55] Let her begin to confess that she's healed, that confess that she can come out.

[01:04:59] Help her to know that she has permission, oh God, to be free, God.

[01:05:03] In the mighty name of Jesus, God, I speak now to the young man who have dealt with molestation and shame and embarrassment, God, thinking that it couldn't happen or shouldn't happen to a male child, God.

[01:05:14] Oh Father, I decree and declare that you would even bring your Ruach breath of wholeness upon them, God, that they would even seek help.

[01:05:21] God, deliverance works, it surely does.

[01:05:24] But Father, I decree that we shall become a generation and a culture that would seek even counsel to supplement deliverance, oh God.

[01:05:31] Father, that while we are getting your word and your meat and your good meat, your strong meat from the word of God,

[01:05:37] that we'll also get wise counsel from someone, God, that you've equipped to help us walk through these things, oh God.

[01:05:43] In the mighty name of Jesus, Father, I ask, oh Father, for the person who caused the trauma that may be hearing this, God,

[01:05:51] and you are auctioning them to forgive and seek forgiveness, Father.

[01:05:54] Let there be a dispensation of time, oh God, where forgiveness can become the portion of those who need it, oh God.

[01:06:01] Help them to, oh God, digest wholly and fully Matthew 6 and 12, God, that we receive forgiveness as we forgive, oh God.

[01:06:08] Help us to understand the power of kingdom economics and kingdom reciprocity, oh God.

[01:06:14] Help us to understand the kingdom interest system that grace and mercy, oh God, is sufficient and made available to us, oh God.

[01:06:21] Even before, Father, we take our breath for the day, lamentation said, oh God, that mercy is already available.

[01:06:27] Yes.

[01:06:28] Help us, God, to extend the grace and the mercy to others that it'll even be even the more readily available to us, God,

[01:06:35] because there is nothing that we could do to deserve.

[01:06:38] There are no works that we can do, God, to deserve the grace and the mercy that you've given us, God, but you've made it available.

[01:06:44] Father, your word says I'll never leave you nor forsake you.

[01:06:47] You'll be with us always, even until the end of days, God.

[01:06:49] God, help us to understand that while we are yet breathing and have blood running warm in our veins, God, there's a time to repent.

[01:06:57] There's a time, God, to forgive.

[01:06:59] Father, let the leaders of your houses, God, begin to teach a sound doctrine and strong me, God.

[01:07:06] I decree and declare and shut the mouth of those that want to sugarcoat and water it down.

[01:07:11] God, we can't be the salt of the earth, but we keep planting sugar.

[01:07:14] God, I decree and declare that the leaders of God will begin to declare the mighty works of the Lord in God.

[01:07:19] They will teach repentance.

[01:07:21] They will help us to understand that repentance is necessary because even, oh God, you said to repent that none would perish.

[01:07:28] You said repent, oh God, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand, God.

[01:07:32] You called us to advance your kingdom, God, but we can't advance if we're stagnant.

[01:07:36] We can't advance if we're stifled, God.

[01:07:38] So, Father, I decree and declare to every person, God, under the sound of my voice, God, let there be a strong optioning to forgive, starting with self and then to forgive others, God, that they, oh God, can help others to do the same, God.

[01:07:53] Your word says that with loving kindness have you drawn us, oh God, help us to be kind and to draw others with your word, using your word, God, that we will be in time and no time, in purpose and on purpose for your glory, oh God.

[01:08:05] Father, I bind the hand of the enemy that would try to cause any type of mental torment to tell anybody that they can't be forgiven or that they shouldn't forgive.

[01:08:14] God, snatch the tongue of the enemy.

[01:08:16] God, send your Holy Ghost assassins to eliminate and annihilate distractions and trails, oh God, in the name of Jesus that will keep us from going upward and onward and forward in Jesus' name.

[01:08:28] And, Father, I now speak a special blessing and plead the blood of Jesus over the woman of God who said yes, oh God, who yielded herself to create this platform, oh God, so that healing and wholeness can take place.

[01:08:40] Father, let whatever she needs, oh God, the asking be hers, oh God.

[01:08:44] Whatever need, oh God, let it be met.

[01:08:47] Let all needs be supplied according to, oh God, your will, your way, your purpose, your timing, and your riches in glory, oh God.

[01:08:53] Father, I thank you and I plead the blood of Jesus over her that no devil in hell shall be able to attack or come not her dwelling.

[01:09:00] God, I thank you for Psalm 27 in the time of trouble, God, that you shall hide her, hide us in your pavilion, Father.

[01:09:08] In other words, you're going to hide us in plain sight that the enemy can come to us, oh God.

[01:09:12] Father, I thank you, oh God, for a band of members who will gather and intercede and call upon you, God,

[01:09:19] for not just for self, but God, that souls shall come your worse than he who win his souls is wise.

[01:09:25] Father, help us to be about your business that, God, we are outdrawing and winning souls because time is winding up and the hour is nearer.

[01:09:33] God, that we better get an urgency about your business and get out there to win souls and to draw.

[01:09:38] God, that we will now have revivals, prayer revivals, salvation revivals.

[01:09:43] We're not just, oh God, trying to be the $1,800 profits.

[01:09:46] Father, I canceled the assignment of the enemy that would get the $1,000 lines and the $10 lines.

[01:09:52] Father, we need to be about a thousand souls over here and a thousand souls over there, God, that they will come hungering and thirsting to you.

[01:09:59] What must I do to be saved?

[01:10:01] God, may we get back to our first love, which is you, God.

[01:10:06] Thank you, Lord.

[01:10:07] God, the place, Father, where salvation is plentiful, God, and we are quick to preach and to teach and to tell the gospel and the good news and the salvation of Jesus Christ.

[01:10:18] And, Father, we thank you, oh God, in Jesus' name, we declare it to be so.

[01:10:23] I declare freedom, health, healing, and wholeness, God, for every person.

[01:10:27] In the sound of my voice, in Jesus' name we pray.

[01:10:30] Amen.

[01:10:32] Amen.

[01:10:33] Amen.

[01:10:33] Amen.

[01:10:34] And amen.

[01:10:35] And ladies and gentlemen, that's called a burning altar.

[01:10:40] You also need that for healing.

[01:10:43] You also need that for peace.

[01:10:45] That's a burning altar.

[01:10:47] You got that.

[01:10:47] I just taught that.

[01:10:49] Restoring the altar of prayer.

[01:10:51] That's a burning altar.

[01:10:52] Don't ask the intercessor to pray.

[01:10:54] We're going to be here another hour.

[01:10:55] Amen.

[01:10:56] I feel the glory of God.

[01:10:58] Hallelujah.

[01:10:59] Thank you.

[01:10:59] Thank you.

[01:10:59] We're going to have you back.

[01:11:01] Can you come back?

[01:11:02] Yes, ma'am, I will.

[01:11:03] Thank you.

[01:11:03] Can you come back?

[01:11:04] Can you come teach a class?

[01:11:05] We're going to have you some.

[01:11:06] We're going to pull on you and just make you our new mama because we love you.

[01:11:11] Yes, ma'am.

[01:11:12] I love you.

[01:11:13] I love you.

[01:11:14] I thank you so much for answering the call and for coming on and for sharing.

[01:11:19] And for everyone that is watching, because I'm looking at the comments and your team is over here.

[01:11:25] And listen, they go on.

[01:11:26] They're like, yes, Bishop.

[01:11:27] Yes.

[01:11:29] So I'm excited.

[01:11:31] Listen, they all be like, yes, Bishop.

[01:11:33] Yes.

[01:11:34] They already know.

[01:11:36] Hallelujah.

[01:11:37] It was such a blessing to have you come on and have you share.

[01:11:40] I know somebody was set free on tonight and someone's going to be healed and delivered.

[01:11:45] For all that are watching, I always tell you a little prayer, a little power, a lot of prayer, a lot of power.

[01:11:51] Come to the birthing room.

[01:11:52] Watch.

[01:11:53] Be healed.

[01:11:53] Be made whole.

[01:11:54] And when you get whole and you're ready to tell your story, we are going to be here.

[01:11:59] We want to hear what God has done for you.

[01:12:01] So everyone have a blessed night and we will see you on the next episode of the birthing room.

[01:12:08] Thank you.