Welcome to another edition of Newz and Trendz with your hosts, Dave and Len. In this episode, Dave Coker and Leonard Young discuss the evolving role of social media in our lives and how it influences modern behavior and social skills. They delve into the differences between past and present social interactions, especially in the context of boredom and entertainment.
Dave and Len also explore the concept of matriarchy, discussing its historical and cultural significance. The hosts then turn their attention to the latest controversies involving former President Donald Trump and his interactions with prominent Black supporters.
The episode continues with a heated debate sparked by a woman's attire during a job interview, examining the changing norms of professional dress codes. Finally, Dave's Corner poses a simple yet engaging question about the upcoming football season, inviting listeners to predict which teams will make it to the Super Bowl.
Tune in for an engaging discussion on current events, social trends, and more!
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Music.
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All right, y'all, get ready for another edition of News and Trends with your host, Dave and Lynn.
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Music.
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Welcome.
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Welcome, welcome to News and Trends with Dave and Lynn.
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This is one of your hosts, David Coker, proprietor of Dave Marquis,
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promoter, event planner, and all-around good guy, hanging out with my partner,
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Mr. Leonard Young. What's happening, sir?
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Hey, Dave. Everything is good. This is Leonard Young, CEO of National Black
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Guide, DelawareBlack.com, black media expert and all-around good guy. How's it going?
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Oh, man, I can't complain. It's just made it through the holiday weekend.
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Kind of uneventful. I didn't do anything. Did you do anything exciting?
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Well, I know you were a little bit. See, I know you were, sir.
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Yeah, I mean, we're definitely busy.
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We had our seafood fest at the campground.
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So that was very busy. And I was so happy when everything was over.
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But, you know, Dave, other than that, no, like, you know, I didn't,
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no burgers, no hot dogs, no Labor Day celebration, no nothing.
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So, I mean, besides... It's funny nowadays because, you know,
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back in the day, you would always smell, during this time of year,
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you would smell somebody cooking up.
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Right. You don't smell that, like, it's not in the air like it used to be,
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you know, when these kind of holidays come around. I blame it on social media.
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You think that's what it is? Dave, social media, I don't know what it is,
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but, you know, people just aren't the same no more.
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Yeah, they're not. I mean, I mean, that's probably a whole nother conversation.
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But, you know, I mean, I don't know. I feel like it's just not the same.
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I don't know. That's maybe a conversation. Look, maybe that's the conversation we can have tonight.
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We can talk about that. Yeah. Well, Dave, and this is my point for right.
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Before social media, had you ever been bored sitting around in the house?
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Man, I don't even know how to spell that word, bored. I mean, that was something.
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I was never bored as a kid. I wasn't born as a young adult.
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I don't even get bored now. I mean, if I choose not to do anything,
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it's because I choose not to do it.
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I can always find something to do if I wanted to do something.
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We all have that mentality that's different from a lot of folks who spend their
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time on social media because,
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you know, you and I spend a lot of time going back and forth.
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We kid each other. We send videos and so forth, you know, in reference to things
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that we think are funny or important or whatever the case may be.
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And, you know, when you go to social media, especially on the two most popular
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platforms right now, which is Instagram and TikTok,
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there's a lot of people, you'll see a lot of the same people,
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I should say, on those platforms.
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And it just seems like they're on there 24-7. You know what I mean?
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What do you think about that? I definitely agree. I think back in the day when
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you were bored, you would find something to do, whether it's inside or outside.
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Nowadays, I feel like when people are bored, they get on social media and the Internet.
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And then there's just like rabbit hole after rabbit hole after rabbit hole.
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And before you know it, you know, it's 10 o'clock at night and they get into bed.
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That's right. I mean, it's amazing that you have those type of situations.
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Because people do get bored and people do go on and they like a lot of the stuff
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that they talk about on on on social media or the things that they're looking
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at or not necessarily things of great importance.
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It doesn't they keep their mind occupied that way. You know,
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you know, I can always find something.
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I rather, you know, they used to talk about TV the same way when I was coming
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up. They said TV kept us occupied way too much time on watching TV.
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Now it's watching our devices and so forth because of the things that we look at on our devices.
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You know, when you get on social media and you see kids that are occupying social
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media on a, you know, and on a regular basis.
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And of course, this is a way to get popular these days. There's way more social
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media star celebrities right now than there are regular, you know,
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self-made celebrities. You know what I mean?
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There's more people that know, like the guy, the African dude that just throws
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his hands up in the air that doesn't talk.
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Look what he's done for himself. Look what he's done for himself.
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He's the highest paid TikTok influencer. I saw that. Yeah.
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Yeah. And he's still probably not getting the money he should get because of
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who he is and because of his race.
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Because we know JoJo Siwa, somebody like JoJo Siwa made a ton of money,
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you know, coming out the gate.
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But that dude is, you know, he ended up in a Will Smith picture just doing what he does.
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I mean, come on now. And they went looking for him. That's what made it so interesting.
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Will Smith talked about it. They went looking for him to put him in the picture.
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You know, so that just tells you that we're so preoccupied with social media
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these days that unbelievable.
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You know, I definitely agree. And, you know, I think maybe not this generation,
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but the following generation, there's going to be a big difference in those social skills.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they're not going to know how to talk in front of
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people face to face. and that's the scary thing I mean you know.
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Sitting down one-on-one or sitting in front of a panel in
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an interview situation they wouldn't have
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they won't know how to do that because they won't they'll be
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too nervous or they don't know how they don't have the people skills that they
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should have in order to be able to do that so we have to make sure that you
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know people you know we always talk about the internet allows people to be anything
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Anything that they want to be, you know.
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And unfortunately, we have too many people who go on the Internet and they're
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too many. They're whoever they want to be.
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And that could be an issue for most people and especially our young people.
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Man, you got young people. You said they're buried in their phones all the time, right?
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Oh, yeah. Or they're not only buried in their phones, they're buried in their
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phones in their own rooms.
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So you know it's kind of like if i go in
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my son's room he will be in the bed and he'll have his laptop out playing something
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on netflix hulu prime disney plus and he'll have his phone out either on tiktok or playing video games.
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Games yeah wow now see
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when i was when i was you know raising my my kids and they were teenagers and
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so forth the thing that kept them occupied back then of course video games but
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you know is the different gaming consoles you know and that's where i blame
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a lot of it on because that's where a lot of the uh,
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The mind capturing is what I call it happened with the game and consoles and
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so forth because they made them so,
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you know, some of them were so interactive and so forth that they found themselves
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in those worlds that they were playing the game, you know. Right.
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Well, let me ask this.
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Did you ever go through a video game phase?
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And you can answer that. No. OK. guy.
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No, no. I mean, except with my kids, I'll never forget when Nintendo,
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when we got the first Nintendo, and I would sit there with my kids watching
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them play, you know, Mario Kart, and,
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you know, so I was living that part of it through them,
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but I never was like, I gotta play Madden, or I gotta play, I would play,
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I mean, they had Madden, they had the NBA games, I would play with them from time to time,
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but I was never one of these people that had that video
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games at my house for me you know what
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i mean yeah yeah and i agree the reason why
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i asked you that is because during my
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high school years you know game
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boy nintendo atari you know i
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was addicted to some of those games and i'm
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not really sure why that addiction or the
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passion for playing stop but they once
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it stopped you know that thing that well
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almost dried up and i say that because
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you know they always laugh and then you probably laugh
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too when we hear these stories on uh social media about the girlfriend taking
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the guy's playstation and like throwing it out the window and he started crying
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and and you know it's it's so weird to me because it's like they i've not I
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played a video game for like years, but you know, well.
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Even though we're way off topic, what are your thoughts?
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Why do you think that there's some people who.
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Can kind of like you said you play with your kids but
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you didn't become a gamer so to speak no
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it wasn't something i had to do no but but
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some people you know like you know
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some people you know their gaming is ruining their their
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relationships is ruining their jobs they're
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not getting no sleep you know why why do you
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think some people kind of i guess can control that
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and some people it goes uncontrolled i think
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part of it has to do with we if
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we take it to a clinical aspect i think
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a lot of it has to do with this mind it's like
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it's like psyche of the mind because you
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know it goes all back to having whether
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you're a person that has an addictive nature that type
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personality addictive type personality because when
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you think about it you know i hear
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a lot of people who talk about playing games
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and these are guys people in their 40s 50s 60s right you know yeah do you hear
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how crazy the nfl guys get about their madden ratings and stuff like that because
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they they get so and the nba guys get about their ratings in their in the NBA games,
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you know, NBA 2K or whatever,
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they all are really serious about this stuff, man.
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And, you know, and it's all because, you know, they have that,
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you know, they have that certain nature that they, first of all,
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they got to play these games.
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They got to be, you know, they got to be competitive.
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They're competitive by nature anyway, and they got to be competitive,
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you know, playing the games. You know, I mean, when you look at the numbers
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that they're doing on the gaming circuits.
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Young people are making some big money, man. They really are.
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You know, you know, so when you got people who are making money from these type of things,
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I look at the show The Chi and one of the stars who have been on the show since
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the show began left the show because he became a gamer and went to California
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to do this gaming thing because he was making so much money, you know, and so forth.
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So this is the life that most people are living nowadays.
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It's going and trying to make that kind of money. And the money's out there
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for those people that are really good.
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I watched some of the stuff they put on ESPN about the games and so forth.
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These guys ain't playing, man. They all into that, you know? Right.
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You know, and it's not just the young people.
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Older guys, too. I mean, it's not just them. And like I said,
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I just think it's something that gets in their blood. Part of it is competition.
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Part of it is addictive natures to be able to, you know, because of something
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that's just that they they they want to win.
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They feel they have to win and they'll do what they have to to try to win.
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That's where it is right you
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know and of
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course social media is the flame that is the
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flame that really that really
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fuels everything you know anytime I'm looking at something and nowadays you
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know especially with the reels and so forth this is taking it in another direction
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especially with the reels and the Instagram on Instagram and TikTok,
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they do these little skits and so forth.
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You'd be like, okay, is this real or is this fake?
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Because they draw you in and so forth.
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Now they even have stories like two, three, four part stories that's telling
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you, that's telling a story and they become like little movies or whatever.
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It's got all kinds of stuff on there. Of course,
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you know who can forget last year's recent tisa
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thing you know so i mean yeah i mean that
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was compelling you know because people have millions and millions of people
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tuned into that you know you know i mean and dave imagine how much well i don't
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see nothing positive coming imagine how much negative conversations those started
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and people's relationships too,
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That's true. But just think about how much it changed the way that people looked
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at dealing with their people that they just met or they just got involved with,
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you know, online dating and all that kind of stuff.
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So just look how that might have changed.
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Just look out, you know, women have, women mostly, and I don't want to get,
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I don't want to get beat up for this, but women mostly have been.
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I know. Go ahead, Dave. Say it, Dave.
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No, they have been the investigators in most of the relationships.
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You know, men kind of, kind of, you know, I, I, I, I, I know how I am.
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You know, if I ask a question, you give me an answer.
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If it's an answer that makes sense to me, I'm not going to question it.
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You know what I mean? Right. Right.
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Women ain't that way. No.
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You know, they're naturally they're naturally just like natural investigators.
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And, you know, so when you hear about this recent TISA thing and she goes through
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all of these different videos telling you about what happened.
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And I have to admire the way she did it because she definitely drew us in.
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She definitely kept us connected.
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You know what I mean? and she definitely gave
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us enough for each episode that we had to
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keep listening you know you know
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so it was you know it was definitely genius and
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the only thing that you really really was hoping is that she wasn't lying you
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know and just you know which we we've found out that you know definitely what
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he said happened you know it hasn't been disproven that it didn't happen and let's put it that way.
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But, you know, with that, we haven't heard his side. Well, he's done some talking,
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but, you know, he's hard to believe, though.
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I mean, because, you know, he has no backup. Nobody is backing him.
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Nobody is coming out in his – nobody is defending him, you know.
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And that's the thing because – and all of that was played out in front of us on social media.
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You know, and of course, you know, of course, she got ridiculed.
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Well, how can you kill because she got swayed? You know, everybody took shots
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at her because everybody thought it was the money that she did,
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everything that she did and so forth and so forth, because he indicated he had money.
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But, you know, she she found herself dealing with a habitual liar.
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Allegedly, I will put it that way. Yeah. OK.
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And and she got she got caught up, you know, and that was on her,
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you know, because she allowed herself to believe in the stuff that he said.
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But then she started becoming she started investigating a lot of stuff and then
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she found out what she found out. So that's good that she did that.
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But here again, social media is that to be in the background of it. It started everything.
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And, you know, social media is what we what what it is, man.
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It is a place to you can find anything you want now, you know,
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now also it's become a place that you can go shopping.
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I mean, you know, you can shop. You don't have to leave your house.
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And you get everything you want right there delivered to you,
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you know. So, so I mean, and Dave, you want me to tell you what else,
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what else I think it does is a lot of times you'll get stuck in the algorithm.
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So it's kind of like if you're looking for, let's say you're looking to buy
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houses in like Florida or Texas, the algorithm is going to keep showing you
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houses in Florida or Texas.
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You know if you're a
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single lady who is you know disgusted
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at the male race the algorithm will show
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you all the videos saying you don't need them girl you know I mean like you
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don't deserve you so I mean it's just so weird that even happens to me like
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when I started looking at some triathlon videos my timeline was flooded with
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triathlon stuff so I think that.
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Kind of well i think that kind
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of that's like keeping you know
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keep how how drug dealers keep feeding
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the fiends you know i mean like keep them
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coming back yeah yeah that's true that
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is true i mean because everything's right there i mean one of the biggest algorithms
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out there comes i mean you're going to move one time team move one time and
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look at something or team move you're You're going to see two move forever after
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that, you know, because they didn't call it on.
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Oh, you've been here, you know, so we're going to keep sending you stuff, you know.
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You know, the algorithm is really, really crazy.
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It really will keep you caught up in the stuff.
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If you go on a place, look for the best bars to go get something,
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you know, they had the best drink.
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You're going to your feet are going to have a number of bars with drink,
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you know. So, you know, so folks, I mean, you know, this is this is where we are.
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This is, you know, we're in 2024. Get ready to hit 2025.
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And this is the way the world is nowadays. Hopefully, I may be interested to
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see how social media have affected your lives.
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Especially you as an adult, but if you have children or grandchildren that you
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deal with on a regular basis, what impact has it had on the relationship that
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you might have with your grandchildren or your children?
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Or, you know, or the fact that your children or grandchildren might have with
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other people or other children of the same age, you know?
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So, you know, I mean, I mean, you know, I remember kidding you about 10,
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15 years ago about what I was teaching. I was teaching.
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This is what I was teaching at dawn. So it was about eight or nine years ago when this happened.
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And I was talking about how I was in a store one day and these two kids were
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in there just taking turns cracking up.
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And I couldn't understand what was going on. Right.
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And they would just start laughing uncontrollably. So uncontrollably.
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So one of the kids finally said, I got to take a break.
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And I'm like, take a break from what? So finally, the mother looked at me because
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I had this look on my face.
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I guess he was trying to I was trying to figure out what they were doing.
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The mother said, oh, they're telling jokes to each other.
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They're Texas. So they were texting them. They wasn't talking,
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but they were texting them back and forth.
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And I just said, here we go. You know, I just remember having shaking my head,
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just worrying about what's about to come then.
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Yeah. They wasn't talking at all. They were laughing, but they wasn't talking.
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And they were right next to each other. Yeah, I can imagine.
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Because sometimes I think about me and my wife. we'll be right next to each
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other not talking but we'll be sending memes to each other you know.
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That's where we are well that was our opening unofficial topic for tonight so,
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but yes folks I mean you know just curious how you guys feel about that whole thing and,
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let us know Let us know.
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All right. Going into our first story for tonight, I came across a story.
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Well, actually, this started from a conversation a couple days ago I had with
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someone that goes to my church.
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A guy named Phil who brought this up to me.
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The person, you know, that's what I was saying to myself. And they were like,
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No, believe it or not, it's something completely different. And so he went on to explain.
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And I was wondering, have you ever heard of that term, matriarchy?
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Yes, I have. Well, I heard of matriarch. Well, yeah, matriarchy,
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yes. Do you know what I mean? Yes, I do.
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All right, well, I'll let you talk about that.
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Say it one more time. Name that tune. Matriarch. Say, why don't you tell us? Name that tune.
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Yeah, so, I mean, it's almost like, The head, the elder.
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And I remember it because my grandmother, at one point, she was the oldest of that family tree.
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So she's always used the term, I'm the matriarch of the family.
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So that's kind of where I heard it from and how I deduced my interpretation of the definition.
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Okay. Well, you're right. That is the definition for matriarch,
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but it's not the definition for matriarchy.
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Okay. All right. Well, learn me something today, Dave.
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Okay. I'm going to learn you something today, sir. Here we go.
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So matriarchy is a social system in which positions of dominance and privilege are held by women.
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In a part of sense, it can also extend to moral authority, social privilege,
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and control of property.
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So that's what, in a nutshell, what it means.
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Now, the reason that it means a lot is because back in certain civilizations and cultures,
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the women ran everything. Okay.
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And even in some countries, it still happens.
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Matriarchy is still, it's still.
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It says the word matriarchy for society politically led by females,
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especially mothers who also control property,
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is often interpreted to mean the general opposite of patriarchy,
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but it is not an opposite.
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So, these women run everything.
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The men are relegated to staying home, taking care of the children,
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while the women are out working and taking care of everything.
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They have they have their
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own they have their own money they
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have their own and I and they run things I mean they run everything so yeah
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you ever heard of this before and in practice in practice,
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Well, no, I mean, are you saying, like, can I name a civilization or a group
00:26:33
of people that actually put it in practice? Is that what you're saying?
00:26:37
No, well, no, I'm saying, have you ever heard of this before at all?
00:26:42
It doesn't sound far-fetched. It doesn't sound far-fetched.
00:26:47
Yeah, I mean, it's good. Yeah, I'm not sure if I heard of it exactly,
00:26:52
but I feel like I have, because especially when you talked about being mothers
00:26:56
and I was like, and, you know, it almost made me think about Xena and the warrior
00:27:02
princess and those tribes and like the woman king.
00:27:06
And so I was wondering if that was going to come to mind, because I.
00:27:12
Yes, you're on the right track with that. It's because those women ran a lot
00:27:19
of everything that was going on in their countries.
00:27:21
This actually was something that really, you know, it was big in India,
00:27:26
it was big in Africa, you know, and so forth.
00:27:30
And it was, they said it was very interesting when you would go to these people's
00:27:33
homes and you see the men doing everything that you would normally see women doing.
00:27:39
Yeah. And the women were out, They would go out and work or they would be out
00:27:46
killing the animals to feed the family and all of that kind of stuff.
00:27:51
Just like, you know, you just mentioned those movies, you know, and so forth, you know.
00:27:56
So, yes, the African, what was the African king or the woman in the movie that
00:28:02
a woman, the woman, the woman, the woman, the woman, yeah, the woman.
00:28:06
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So that, you know, it was also in some Asian countries as well.
00:28:15
They also practice that. And still a lot of them still do practice it.
00:28:20
So I just thought it was interesting because I didn't know this personally myself. I had never heard of it.
00:28:25
And he just happened to bring it up to me. He said, well, Dave,
00:28:28
have you ever heard of this? I said, no.
00:28:30
He said, well, I kind of stumbled across it the other day.
00:28:34
And he said, I was really surprised about it. You know, and I said,
00:28:37
you know, that's what that does sound interesting. And I started doing some research on it.
00:28:43
There's a lot out there about it. Yeah. So I just thought I'd bring that up
00:28:47
because it is, it is something now,
00:28:50
of course, you know, it ain't gonna fly like that here in this country like
00:28:55
that, you know, now we do have a form of it. Yeah, I don't know.
00:29:00
We have These people You know because we do have a lot of women That are making
00:29:07
more than Their spouses or their Significant others who Are running things in their households,
00:29:14
But not to the point That,
00:29:18
I shouldn't say that either because we do Have some stay at home.
00:29:23
Fathers or Partners and stuff like that Because and who are taking taking care
00:29:28
of the home because that person is out making all the money.
00:29:32
Right. Because they are the breadwinner. So that does happen,
00:29:36
but it's not in this type.
00:29:37
It's not in the same context as what's been years and years and for decades and decades.
00:29:45
Right. Right. Yeah. So.
00:29:52
Yes. Hold on. Say it one more time.
00:29:58
I'm retreating. Yes, I'm here. I think we had a bad connection for a second,
00:30:04
but it sounds better now.
00:30:06
OK. OK. All right. Sorry about that.
00:30:09
For those people that heard the interruption there, you know,
00:30:12
maybe because the next we have to do with the person I'm about to talk about.
00:30:17
Who's that? Is it Trump? This next story. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:30:23
The next story is my African-American. The Donald Trump racist rally remark
00:30:31
reignites rage called Black Rep Byron Donald,
00:30:37
one of the smart ones.
00:30:39
He just can't keep his mouth. He just can't keep it. No, he can't.
00:30:43
You know, it says Donald Trump is at it again.
00:30:46
The former president hit the campaign trail hard on Friday, stirring up his
00:30:53
usual brand of controversy at a rally in Johnstown, Pennsylvania.
00:30:56
He loves Pennsylvania, man. I guess that's where he thinks he's going to get
00:31:00
all his votes from. I know.
00:31:02
Among the regular opening acts that warm up the crowd before Trump's main event,
00:31:09
Representative Byron Donalds took center stage.
00:31:14
Donald, who has been making the rounds as one of Trump's most prominent black
00:31:19
supporters, used his black job to introduce the ex-president with all the expected fanfare.
00:31:29
However, it was Trump's remarks that got people talking and not in a good way.
00:31:35
According to media, Trump called
00:31:38
out Donald for from the crowd during his speech, dubbed him a smart one.
00:31:46
He's a smart one. And double, double down with the praise phrase.
00:31:53
Speak so well. Smart one.
00:31:55
Yeah, I know. You know, double down with the with the phrase you have smart
00:31:59
ones and ones that aren't quite so good.
00:32:02
The statement left many in the audience scratching their head like, what the hell?
00:32:07
You know, Trump didn't clarify who or what he was referring to with his use of words.
00:32:15
But it didn't take long. It did take long for folks to catch the racial the
00:32:21
racial undertones. We know exactly who he's talking about.
00:32:25
And that is not only absurd.
00:32:29
Absurd. It's disgusting. But what would you expect from hashtag MAGA maggot?
00:32:45
Trump never misses a moment that anytime somebody black comes up and speaks
00:32:53
for him, he always says something like that.
00:32:56
You know, or this is my black supporter, this is my black fan,
00:33:02
or this is my black this, this is my black that.
00:33:04
Everybody else is, this is my friend, this is this, this is this,
00:33:08
they never say my white person or.
00:33:11
Anytime somebody's black, he's quick to say, you see my black supporters back
00:33:17
here and all of that kind of stuff, you know.
00:33:21
So why do we have to be labeled by Donald Trump?
00:33:25
That's a very good question. Go ahead. You know, one thing I haven't known about
00:33:30
Trump, when he speaks, he uses a lot of adjectives, you know,
00:33:36
like, especially when he's talking about himself.
00:33:38
Oh, yeah. You know, I'm the best, the greatest, you know, like,
00:33:42
so when he speaks, I feel like if he didn't use all those adjectives,
00:33:49
kind of like you said, if he didn't use all those adjectives for black people and just said,
00:33:52
hey, this is my friend, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:33:55
But for him to be like, oh, you know, he speaks so well, he dresses so nice,
00:34:00
you know, you know, it just I mean, of course, we already know it just it doesn't
00:34:05
sound legit. It doesn't sound authentic.
00:34:09
And you know we know let this person
00:34:12
say something Trump don't like and then he's the worst person in the world he's
00:34:16
terrible he's not smart can't manage his money you remember he talked about
00:34:20
Marco he got little hands his wife is ugly like how you call someone's wife
00:34:25
ugly being a politician yeah yeah I know.
00:34:36
You know, you know, it was last year, the year before last, you know,
00:34:47
and, you know, you don't even hear him anymore. Nope.
00:34:51
You know, he played for a purpose, you know, and that is to help him win this,
00:34:59
win this presidential election.
00:35:02
Meanwhile, he's still having issues as far as his court proceedings and so forth.
00:35:12
He's still having those type of problems.
00:35:15
And, you know, but yet only in America can a man run for office who's been convicted on 34 counts.
00:35:27
Right. has been convicted of federal charges and still be able to still be able to run for office.
00:35:40
Yeah. It's, it's really amazing. I mean,
00:35:44
It's really amazing that we're having the issues that we're having.
00:35:47
So I think if we can get if we can get Trump to make sure that he just keeps
00:35:55
his mouth shut and goes high, goes in high for a little bit,
00:35:59
at least till after November, we'll be good.
00:36:02
You know, right. So.
00:36:06
And people that are black that are hanging out with him, you know,
00:36:11
how many more things does he have to say?
00:36:14
How many more things does he have to say about you for you to get the hint? Right.
00:36:20
I mean, you know, it just makes no sense. It really doesn't because he feels he can win.
00:36:25
He feels he can win without you, you know, just as much as he feels that he can win with you.
00:36:32
I mean, and he'd rather do it without you because as soon as he gets in the
00:36:36
office, you'd be the last person that he thinks that he's going to think about, you know.
00:36:41
You know, you got lucky there was a pandemic going on before,
00:36:46
you know, going into a pandemic and you were able to get some money.
00:36:50
So that kept us quiet for a little bit. Well, I didn't get any of it.
00:36:53
I didn't get any of the money, but that's a whole nother story.
00:36:56
So, but, but here we are.
00:37:01
I just, I saw that story. I just had to go out there and say something about
00:37:05
it because when are we going to learn?
00:37:07
And there's quite a few blacks that are supporting him.
00:37:10
What are we going to learn? You guys are token. You really are. Right.
00:37:15
You know, not trying to tell you who to vote for or anything like that.
00:37:19
But anytime you're... Have you ever heard...
00:37:23
Heard Biden...
00:37:26
I mean, even though Biden said some controversial stuff himself,
00:37:28
he doesn't he doesn't go out on a on a regular basis and say, this is my black friend.
00:37:34
You know, he doesn't do that. You know, so I don't know.
00:37:38
But anyway, what they what they I mean, if you want to know about Trump's black
00:37:42
supporters, ask him where his best friend is, Herschel Walker.
00:37:48
Yeah, I don't think Herschel Walker knows where he is right now.
00:37:51
No, but you know, I remember one thing at the end of the campaign,
00:37:54
Herschel Walker thought the Trump campaign took some of his campaign finances.
00:38:01
Yeah, I know. How about that? I'm sure they did. Yeah, I'm sure they did too.
00:38:05
And I tell you, somebody else is going to have it too, too. Tim Scott. Yep.
00:38:09
Because he's already kind of, you know, he's kind of distanced himself from
00:38:15
Tim Scott. Scott, you almost thought that Trump was going to have Scott to run
00:38:19
with him at one point, but then you should have known better than that. Right.
00:38:24
Because Scott was up there talking about how Trump is the greatest thing to slice bread. Yeah.
00:38:31
Well, that was the same thing Omarosa said, too, until he got in office,
00:38:35
and now she is vehemently opposed to him.
00:38:40
Yeah, well, I think there's a lot more to that story than what We'll never find
00:38:45
her because, you know, that was his girl, you know what I mean?
00:38:53
And something happened that caused that not to be.
00:38:56
And I don't know if it's because she was too smart and she started in something.
00:39:03
And plus she old, she probably has a lot of skeletons that she's collected, you know, about him.
00:39:08
And, you know, and I think he doesn't know, knows to leave her alone before
00:39:14
she says, before she starts, because did that book ever come out that she was going to talk?
00:39:19
Remember, she was playing on talk, talking and never did it never come up. Right.
00:39:25
Not sure the book.
00:39:28
Yeah. Because everybody was saying that she was just trying to sell,
00:39:32
sell a book and everything.
00:39:33
But then I don't think that book, I don't remember seeing the book come out.
00:39:37
And I'll bet you they put the squash on it so that's probably why it didn't
00:39:40
come out no I was about to say it did come out I'm looking here it came out yeah it came out in 2018.
00:39:51
And get this hold on let me wait for the Amazon to come up yes the cover picture,
00:40:01
has her and Trump on it and the title.
00:40:09
Well,
00:40:12
then it must not have did big numbers. I don't remember hearing about that book.
00:40:16
I'm not sure, but it did come out. It said New York Times bestseller,
00:40:20
but it seemed like every book is a New York Times bestseller.
00:40:23
Yeah, I know. It doesn't seem like it's hard to get on that list anymore. No.
00:40:28
Wasn't that around the same time that the Obamas had their books out? I'm not sure.
00:40:34
Okay. Yeah. All right.
00:40:37
Yeah, I totally missed that. I don't remember seeing her making the rounds or
00:40:42
anything about that book.
00:40:43
Yeah. Oh, well, maybe she didn't do the numbers that she was hoping to do from it. Who knows?
00:40:51
Well, Trump, you just keep being Trump. And maybe the more you be Trump,
00:40:56
the more that people won't pay any attention to you. Right.
00:41:01
Then I don't know. That seemed to backfire before. I don't know.
00:41:05
We'll see. Moving on to our next story.
00:41:11
Let's see. I thought this was interesting, but this is just typical of what
00:41:15
people do today, which is there was a black woman who was not hired for wearing
00:41:23
shorts to a job interview.
00:41:26
And it actually, you know, started a lot of online debate about whether or not
00:41:34
she should have been hired or not.
00:41:37
So let me read a little bit about the story. It says, when Teresha arrived for the interview,
00:41:44
the recruiter made the unexpected decision to reschedule it,
00:41:52
suggesting that she return after changing into different attire.
00:41:57
And let me stop right there.
00:42:01
Go back to the beginning i kind of skipped something a woman
00:42:04
from san antonio texas named
00:42:07
tyresha morgan had ignited heated
00:42:10
online debate after sharing her experience of being sent home from a job interview
00:42:15
due to her outfit choice in the video posted on tiktok that had already had
00:42:22
six million views here we go back to social media again six million views this is crazy right Right.
00:42:28
Tyrese, who was job hunting in San Antonio area, revealed that she was turned
00:42:33
away by the recruiter because of her short tier one to the interview.
00:42:38
Now, what I just read, the second part I already read.
00:42:42
Now, what was cool was, you know, because you don't really get this chance.
00:42:47
The guy said you can go home and change and come back and we'll still do the interview.
00:42:52
You okay most people
00:42:55
will just nix you right away because you
00:42:58
know so now in the tiktok video tyresha provided a full view of her outfit showcasing
00:43:08
the shorts that became the focal point of the controversy he defended her choice
00:43:13
asserting that she looked very neat and professional professional,
00:43:17
saw no reason to change her attire.
00:43:20
However, this stance quickly sparked a broader discussion about what constitutes proper office attire.
00:43:31
And then according to Fox 8 News, the reactions from the viewers were mixed,
00:43:35
with many criticizing Tyrese's choice of clothing for the job interview.
00:43:41
Several commenters, some identifying as managers or recruiters,
00:43:46
agreed with the decision to ask her to change, stating that they would have done the same.
00:43:51
One user remarked, I would not hire you wearing this.
00:43:54
I would have offered you a new interview as well, but would not have been a
00:44:02
hard pass on you for this.
00:44:06
Others echoed the same sentiment, with one user who claimed to work in HR noting
00:44:12
that the offer to reschedule the interview was more lenient than what she would have expected.
00:44:19
The fact they allowed you to change and have a redo says a lot.
00:44:24
It would have been an immediate no here, the user wrote, emphasizing the importance
00:44:30
of first impression in the hiring process.
00:44:35
Going to stop right there. Now, I've done a lot of HR stuff in the past.
00:44:40
When I worked for Dawn, I used to prep people for the interview process and
00:44:45
so forth and getting jobs and so forth.
00:44:48
Worked for the Department of Labor, working in the same capacity,
00:44:51
helping people with getting jobs and helping them for the interview process
00:44:55
and doing resumes and all that kind of stuff.
00:44:57
So I've been very well-versed in this area.
00:45:02
We're in a different day and time now, people just do not dress up like they
00:45:08
used to anymore and this is not just for interviews,
00:45:12
they don't dress up for weddings they don't dress up for funerals hardly anymore
00:45:17
they don't dress up for major events unless you say that you have to dress up
00:45:22
in an invitation or event they do not do it okay people don't dress up for church
00:45:28
anymore people don't dress up for Easter anymore.
00:45:31
That was a big day to dress up.
00:45:34
So when people come to interviews, and I've done mock interviews with people
00:45:40
trying to get them prepared for interviews and so forth, and I tell them,
00:45:44
I want you to come as though this is a real interview.
00:45:47
I've seen people wear shorts. I've seen I've seen people wear jeans.
00:45:51
I've seen people have, excuse me, folks, have wraps on their head or caps and stuff like that.
00:46:01
It just makes no sense to me that we're in a day and time where people just
00:46:08
feel all you got to do is show up and answer a few questions and get the job.
00:46:15
It doesn't matter how you look.
00:46:18
And you're a person that has to deal with hiring people and so forth.
00:46:22
Now, of course, because of the nature of who you're, you know,
00:46:25
the jobs that you're normally hiring for, as far as your business is concerned.
00:46:31
Does it still matter to you how a person comes to you when they're interviewing?
00:46:37
No, it doesn't. And I mean, kind of, you said, I think it's the nature of the
00:46:42
job, too. So it's like, okay, if somebody's going to be doing outdoor work,
00:46:47
such as cutting grass and maintenance and all that, no.
00:46:52
Now, if they're looking to, like, let's say outdoor supervisor,
00:46:56
I would probably expect them to come with a little bit of a different look.
00:47:02
But I may not disqualify them if they didn't.
00:47:10
Now, Dave, going back to your point, I think, too, and I'm one of those people
00:47:14
like, you know, when we go places, it's like, OK, do we have to dress up?
00:47:18
Because, you know, like I like to be casual and I think that's just the way society is going now.
00:47:25
But, you know, one of the things I think about is especially when everyone started
00:47:30
working from home, you know, it's kind of like once you get into that casual,
00:47:34
like being able to work casually, you don't ever want to go back.
00:47:39
Now, I think if you're working in an office, maybe not retail.
00:47:44
I can see people interviewing for retail, wearing whatever they want in the interview.
00:47:48
But if you're going to work at an office, a call center, you know,
00:47:52
maybe like for the state, city, like for the government, I could,
00:47:56
you know, I could see you dressing up a little more.
00:47:59
But, you know, nowadays it's like people just don't dress up and they're OK with it. Uh-huh.
00:48:06
So with that being said.
00:48:10
And the jobs that you have interviewed people for, you said you're not so much
00:48:14
worried about the way they're dressed.
00:48:17
But don't you think that sometimes the way a person is dressed,
00:48:22
that that might also dictate how their attitude or their overall persona might
00:48:32
come across during the interview?
00:48:35
Yes, I mean, I do agree with that. You know, I think it's one of the things
00:48:39
where it's not a disqualification if they don't come dressed,
00:48:42
but if they come dressed, that may put them, you know, in my mind,
00:48:47
I'm going to remember them and I'm going to think to myself, oh, okay.
00:48:51
Like they came from almost like they, and I mean, it is what it is. I don't really care.
00:48:57
But when people come to interview for the campground, nobody brings a copy of their resume.
00:49:01
Like I remember when I used to interview, I always had a copy of my resume to
00:49:05
give the person. So it's almost like the same thing.
00:49:08
If somebody came to interview and they're dressed up, even if it's business
00:49:13
casual, because, you know, I mean, like what we get is what we get.
00:49:16
But if it's business casual and they have a copy of their resume to give me
00:49:20
in my mind, you know, they're you know, they already got to step up.
00:49:25
Yeah. All right. Now, what about you?
00:49:28
I know you've done interviews. interviews now i know you've helped people with
00:49:31
these mock interviews but if you were.
00:49:34
Really interviewing somebody for a position oh i've
00:49:37
done many interviews but i've done many interviews for state for the state
00:49:40
of delaware so is there ever is there
00:49:43
ever anybody you would turn away for the way that they were dressed but allow
00:49:48
them to come back or would it just be a straight turn away or or automatic non-consideration
00:49:55
i would i've never done that in with the state because I,
00:50:00
of course, let's go with the flow.
00:50:03
You know, normally with the state, we do panel interviews. So I'm not the only person.
00:50:08
It's three of us usually that make that decision, you have to interview the person.
00:50:13
But when I've done other interviews in the past, I did pay attention to what they had on.
00:50:19
Now, was that a big percentage point?
00:50:24
Was that big percentage points as to whether or not I was going to hire you?
00:50:27
It all depends on what you said, how you answer, you know, as far as how you
00:50:32
answer the questions that I might ask you.
00:50:35
You know, the resume, believe it or not, is the least important thing that's going on at that moment.
00:50:42
You know, because you even though you might have the resume in front of you
00:50:45
as a reference point, we're not necessarily interested in what you did as to what you can do.
00:50:51
You know so so more concerned about who i'm talking to and how you come across.
00:51:02
Know it's it's it's funny i i'm
00:51:06
sitting here thinking when you think about the
00:51:09
way people dress now that's it's not
00:51:12
that big of a deal nowadays except in corporate america because quite naturally
00:51:17
in corporate america you still want to make a good impression based on how you're
00:51:22
dressed when you go to these interviews especially for certain particular certain
00:51:28
jobs that definitely Right.
00:51:30
You definitely need to look the part in order to get the job.
00:51:34
But, you know, a lot of these other places, people are a lot more lax when it
00:51:37
comes to what people have on.
00:51:39
I think you still need to be conscious because, I mean, it's OK for a guy to
00:51:46
wear a pair of khaki pants if he has a shirt, a freshly pressed shirt on.
00:51:51
And he doesn't necessarily have to have a tie, but if he looks neat and everything
00:51:58
looks clean and no wrinkles, then you can accept that. You know what I mean?
00:52:03
Right. But if a person comes in and they look like they just rolled out of bed.
00:52:07
You know, I'm going to notice that. Yeah.
00:52:10
You know, it's going to be hard for me to look past that, you know, so.
00:52:16
But I'm going to kind of piggyback on something you said earlier.
00:52:19
One of the reasons that we have schools that have mandatory uniforms now is
00:52:27
because they felt that the uniforms would help to keep them in check as far
00:52:36
as the attitudes or possible.
00:52:40
Confrontations that students can have throughout the day or throughout the school
00:52:46
year or whatever, because they felt if you have uniforms on,
00:52:50
and it's just like if you had to wear a suit, like for those that have to wear
00:52:54
like a jacket and so forth to class or whatever, like some of the Catholic schools
00:53:00
or whatever, or some of the parochial schools.
00:53:05
When you do that, they feel that you're going to be more in tune with what's
00:53:10
going on throughout the day as far as the classes are concerned,
00:53:15
as opposed to being out there rolling in dirt or fighting or whatever the case may be.
00:53:23
That's the reason that a lot of these places started instilling uniforms to
00:53:29
help with keeping you and trying to present yourself in a certain way.
00:53:35
You follow me? I do.
00:53:39
OK. And do you I mean, do you see things? I mean, do you see you understand why they did that?
00:53:45
Because a lot of people said, OK, we make you we make you wear uniform.
00:53:49
Then we know you're going to act a certain way in most cases, you know.
00:53:52
And so that's why when you go to these interviews and you and so forth, they're looking at you.
00:53:59
If you have pride in wearing the outfit that you now, of course,
00:54:03
this lady, this lady had a lot of pride in what she had on.
00:54:05
He wasn't concerned he felt he
00:54:08
looked neat i don't know if you saw the picture i don't
00:54:11
know if you pulled up the link there but i mean it's
00:54:15
okay to go out into a store or
00:54:18
whatever the case may be but it's
00:54:21
it wasn't something that i
00:54:24
would suggest wearing to an interview you know she had
00:54:26
black shorts on yeah they wasn't they wasn't
00:54:29
booty shorts or anything like that but they were shorts you know
00:54:33
and and it's just not something if you're going to wear something on your legs
00:54:40
why not just put a skirt on right you know and she had a white top on with like
00:54:47
a white sweater like over it so.
00:54:51
So i don't know folks you guys can kind of shed light from what your thoughts
00:54:56
are as far as that is concerned.
00:54:58
Do you feel what you wear to an interview makes the interview or breaks the
00:55:03
interview? What do you guys think about that?
00:55:06
Should this young lady been a little more conscious about what she had on?
00:55:11
And I commend the people that were interviewing her because they did give her the opportunity.
00:55:22
They gave her the opportunity to change and reschedule the interview.
00:55:27
Now, of course, rescheduling an interview can be, you know, depends on the situation.
00:55:34
It could hurt your chances because of the first time you came in.
00:55:38
So you might have got some points taken off of that.
00:55:41
But, you know, hopefully, hopefully that wasn't the case, you know, so, all right.
00:55:50
Okay. All right. Well, that brings us to Leonard's favorite part of the show.
00:55:57
And which is Dave's corner. He loves this part of the show for those of you
00:56:02
guys that have been paying attention to all these, all these years.
00:56:05
He really does. So I just do them a really easy question a day because sometimes
00:56:12
the questions are too tough for me. You can't handle them.
00:56:15
So I just do a real softball question to them. So we got football season coming, guys.
00:56:24
Starting Thursday, this Thursday, we got the first game of the season.
00:56:29
And then on Friday, we got the Eagles playing in Brazil.
00:56:34
Did you hear all the controversy about how all the stuff that they were told
00:56:37
that they, you know, that about, about they shouldn't be using their walking
00:56:42
the streets with their cell phones.
00:56:44
Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah.
00:56:51
Twitter over. I mean, there's, I mean, it's just crazy.
00:56:57
And a lot of those guys act like they didn't want to go.
00:57:01
Yeah, I heard some people say they did not want to go.
00:57:05
Yeah, they didn't. I'm telling you, they definitely did not want to go because
00:57:09
they, well, there's a lot going on over there and, you know,
00:57:15
they've been dealing with a lot of craziness over there.
00:57:18
And then there's a lot of people, you know, There's a lot of robberies.
00:57:24
People are stealing stuff left and right.
00:57:27
It's a mess over there. But they're determined that they're going to play this game in Brazil.
00:57:33
I think the Eagles are supposed to leave tomorrow to go there.
00:57:37
So I guess we'll see. But anyway, so with the football season about to start,
00:57:44
my question in reference to Dave's corner question was who do you think will
00:57:54
be the two teams that will make it to the super bowl this year.
00:58:00
Real easy question you know i know you're not a big big big big football fan
00:58:05
but i know that you know enough to be able to pick out two teams that you think are going to get there,
00:58:11
and why why do you think those two teams will get there all right well dave
00:58:16
i'm gonna go with the Eagles because that's a hometown team and you know if
00:58:20
you don't have faith in them then,
00:58:22
ain't nothing going to move and I'm going to go with the Kansas City Chiefs
00:58:28
since they are defending Super Bowl champions.
00:58:32
Alright and that's the reason why because they're defending the champions yes
00:58:38
and all the sports experts give them the highest odds of returning yep.
00:58:46
Oh, yeah, that's true. They do. They do. They seem to think that they might
00:58:51
have a shot at a three-peat. Yeah, so we'll see.
00:58:54
All right. Okay. All right. What about you, Dave?
00:58:59
Who are your two picks to play against each other in the Super Bowl?
00:59:04
Well, of course, you know, got to go with my heart. I got to pick my Eagles,
00:59:08
you know, because I feel that with all the trades and everything that they did
00:59:13
this year, even though they're going to miss Jason Kelsey,
00:59:16
He retired, you know, and Fletcher Cox on defense.
00:59:20
They both retired. They're both great, evil players.
00:59:23
I still think they have enough that they can redeem themselves from last year
00:59:28
after falling apart towards the second half of the season.
00:59:33
It's really easy to pick Kansas City. I'm just not – I'm not convinced that
00:59:40
they're going to make it back to the Super Bowl.
00:59:44
I think there's too many distractions.
00:59:46
Of course, you still got Taylor Swift hanging around over there.
00:59:53
You know, they were also talking about Travis Kelsey was up there saying they
00:59:58
were going to let Taylor Swift design a play. You know, I was like, okay, Lord.
01:00:03
So even though that would be the easy choice to make, I'm going to say because
01:00:10
how it happened last year and how things just kind of got crazy.
01:00:17
I'm going to keep it local and say the Baltimore Ravens. Okay.
01:00:22
So the Eagles against the Ravens, two birds playing against each other. Right.
01:00:27
And, you know, it's funny because this state is kind of split between Baltimore
01:00:32
and the Ravens, and the Eagles anyway, you know?
01:00:35
So that would be a pretty good Super Bowl to see them two play.
01:00:40
What Super Bowl this year? Is it Vegas?
01:00:44
Because Vegas. I thought it just said New Orleans. Oh, New Orleans? Okay.
01:00:50
It's funny because they had to go all the way out to play the Super Bowl as
01:00:54
opposed to playing it right here.
01:00:57
But that was, yeah, I'm going to go with the Ravens and the Eagles.
01:01:01
So that's my pick. So we'll revisit this later on and we have to remember our picks.
01:01:07
Well, of course, it's really easy to remember. But let's see what happens towards
01:01:11
the end of the year or Kansas City or the Ravens get there.
01:01:18
So, you know, so guys, I don't know what your picks are, but you can let us know.
01:01:24
See how close everybody gets. You know, you can go out there and place a bet
01:01:27
right now for your favorite team.
01:01:30
You know, people make a lot of money if they're right.
01:01:35
I mean, that's ridiculous, the money that you can make. If you pick a team right
01:01:39
now who you think is going to win the Super Bowl,
01:01:43
and it could be some obscure team and
01:01:46
that team wins you set that's all
01:01:50
i got to say you set you know so but anyway there you have it so we'll see what
01:01:57
happens during the super bowl year as and go birds as they start this season
01:02:03
and let's see let's have a better year than we had last year or let's put it that way.
01:02:08
All right, guys. That's everything that we have for you today.
01:02:12
We want to thank you for taking the time to hang out with us.
01:02:16
And, you know, let me see.
01:02:19
We look forward to hanging out with you again next week. Len,
01:02:22
you got anything you want to add before we go?
01:02:26
Nope. I think you pretty much covered it, Dave.
01:02:30
Okay. All right. Well, that's everything, folks. And we're going to say good
01:02:34
night, and we'll talk to you next week.
01:02:36
Join us next week for another edition of News and Trends with your hosts, Dave and Lynn.
01:02:44
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