Welcome to another edition of News and Trends with Dave and Len, where we delve into impactful stories and insightful discussions. This episode, we have a special guest, Ms. Aja Ajavon, a trailblazing entrepreneur, educator, and philanthropist, whose work has profoundly impacted communities worldwide.
Aja shares her journey from Liberia to the United States, highlighting the inspiration behind founding Everyman Counts, an organization dedicated to empowering single and re-entry fathers. Discover how her upbringing in a close-knit African village shaped her commitment to community and service.
As we celebrate the 10th anniversary of Everyman Counts, Aja provides a glimpse into the upcoming event, honoring outstanding fathers and community leaders. She also discusses the importance of mental health support for those re-entering society, emphasizing the need for holistic approaches.
Join us for an engaging conversation that spans personal stories, societal issues, and the power of community support. Tune in to hear how Aja's relentless dedication continues to inspire and uplift those around her.
00:00:00 --> 00:00:13 Music.
00:00:13 --> 00:00:18 All right, y'all, get ready for another edition of News and Trends with your
00:00:18 --> 00:00:22 host, Dave and Lynn. Talk to him, Luke.
00:00:31 --> 00:00:35 Welcome, welcome, welcome to News and Trends with Dave and Lynn.
00:00:35 --> 00:00:40 I'm one of your hosts, Mr. David Coker, proprietor of Dave Mark Inc.,
00:00:40 --> 00:00:45 promoter, event planner, all around good guy hanging out with my partner Mr.
00:00:45 --> 00:00:51 Leonard Young and keep in mind folks and we are part of the MBG podcast network
00:00:51 --> 00:00:56 now so definitely you want to check us out doing big things with that network
00:00:56 --> 00:00:57 what's going on Leonard?
00:00:58 --> 00:01:02 Hey Dave everything is good this is Leonard Young CEO of National Black Guide
00:01:02 --> 00:01:08 DelawareBlack.com Black Media Specialist all around good guy How goes it, Dave?
00:01:08 --> 00:01:13 Man, I can't call it. I'm running around. This has been a crazy day for me. Busy day.
00:01:14 --> 00:01:19 And, you know, just left a union meeting. I said, let me get on and get this done.
00:01:20 --> 00:01:24 And, you know, it's just, you know, work never stops, man. I wish I could be
00:01:24 --> 00:01:26 like you. Just sit back and just collect money all day.
00:01:27 --> 00:01:33 Well, Dave, I don't know who that is because I went to sleep at past midnight. I got up before six.
00:01:33 --> 00:01:36 I was, we've been sleeping. I did the same thing. did
00:01:36 --> 00:01:39 the same thing so though you ain't done nothing yet go ahead you you
00:01:39 --> 00:01:43 you're probably up to midnight watching tv i was up to midnight working
00:01:43 --> 00:01:46 i'm just saying though we we're not the same is that
00:01:46 --> 00:01:49 what you call it these days working okay good yeah i'll do
00:01:49 --> 00:01:52 i'll paint your ceiling tiles and hanging
00:01:52 --> 00:01:56 stuff and yeah be damn you said
00:01:56 --> 00:01:59 you guys still not finished down here yet no so luckily
00:01:59 --> 00:02:03 today we got we got the bright idea and we're like you know what we need some
00:02:03 --> 00:02:07 help so we put something on Facebook there was a guy who came today he's like
00:02:07 --> 00:02:11 oh yeah I can do the drywall I can do the paint I can do the floors and he gave
00:02:11 --> 00:02:17 us the price we almost fell over but I was like hey pay this man please because I'm exhausted,
00:02:18 --> 00:02:24 okay all right so now we should be finished by early next week so okay all the
00:02:24 --> 00:02:28 same can't wait to see what you guys have done down there,
00:02:29 --> 00:02:33 well Dave don't wait to see come help produce You know what I mean?
00:02:34 --> 00:02:38 Yeah, I'll produce a show for you and everything. That's not a problem.
00:02:38 --> 00:02:43 Okay. It's not a problem. You know, so other than that, everything else is good.
00:02:44 --> 00:02:47 Yeah, you know, everything is good. Just ready for the weekend.
00:02:47 --> 00:02:52 I do want to say my son and daughter's team won their football games,
00:02:52 --> 00:02:56 which means that they are both going to the next round of the playoffs,
00:02:56 --> 00:02:58 Caravelle Academy and St. George's.
00:02:59 --> 00:03:03 Do they have a chance of meeting? No, they're in different classes.
00:03:03 --> 00:03:04 Different conferences.
00:03:04 --> 00:03:08 Okay. All right. Yeah. Okay. All right. So...
00:03:08 --> 00:03:14 So now is your son playing a lot these days or? He's playing periodically.
00:03:14 --> 00:03:18 He'll usually play when they run up the score. So, you know,
00:03:18 --> 00:03:22 anytime it gets past 30 to nothing, then I kind of keep an eye out.
00:03:25 --> 00:03:31 See if he gets in the game. Okay. Oh, that's good. I mean, they got shot of
00:03:31 --> 00:03:33 going back to back. So that's cool.
00:03:33 --> 00:03:38 Well, not only back to back, but undefeated seasons back to back. Yeah. Sure. Sure.
00:03:39 --> 00:03:45 Okay. All right. All right. Well, you know, here we are.
00:03:45 --> 00:03:48 Here we go into the holiday week or one of our favorite holidays,
00:03:48 --> 00:03:49 right? Coming up Thanksgiving.
00:03:50 --> 00:03:54 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Are you going to be in town or are you going out of town for
00:03:54 --> 00:03:57 Thanksgiving? I'll be here. Okay.
00:03:58 --> 00:04:01 Okay. I ain't doing, I ain't going nowhere either. But wherever food,
00:04:01 --> 00:04:03 Come on down to the campground.
00:04:04 --> 00:04:09 So you actually going to be down at the campground. Are y'all doing something down there? Yes, we are.
00:04:10 --> 00:04:13 Okay. Is it for the public or you want to talk about it? No,
00:04:13 --> 00:04:16 no. It's not for the public and I won't be talking about it. Okay.
00:04:18 --> 00:04:23 Okay. All right. I'll keep that in mind. We'll talk all, we'll talk all, you know. Okay.
00:04:24 --> 00:04:28 All right. So we want to thank everybody for tuning in tonight.
00:04:28 --> 00:04:34 And thank you for the feedback that we got on last week's show with Ms. Ann Latrice.
00:04:34 --> 00:04:37 We have another special treat for you tonight.
00:04:38 --> 00:04:42 And Leonard, why don't you tell us who we have with us tonight?
00:04:43 --> 00:04:49 Sure, Dave. So today we have one of my good friends, a widely known person in Delaware.
00:04:50 --> 00:04:55 Her name is Ms. Aja Ajavon, and she's a trailblazing entrepreneur,
00:04:55 --> 00:04:57 educator, and philanthropist.
00:04:57 --> 00:05:04 And as founder and CEO of multiple organizations, including Ajavon Consulting,
00:05:04 --> 00:05:11 Everyman Counts, Bougie or Budget Travels, her work spans over 30 years,
00:05:11 --> 00:05:15 and it had profoundly impacted communities across the globe.
00:05:15 --> 00:05:18 Through Every Man Counts, Ms.
00:05:18 --> 00:05:24 Ajavon empowers single and re-entry fathers to build healthy relationships and succeed as parents.
00:05:24 --> 00:05:30 Her philanthropic efforts extend to Africa, where she has created pipelines
00:05:30 --> 00:05:36 for needy children, built clean restrooms and villages, and empowered women
00:05:36 --> 00:05:38 through self-sufficiency business models.
00:05:38 --> 00:05:44 She has also provided scholarships for higher education and supported domestic
00:05:44 --> 00:05:48 violence survivors with skilled based training and resource centers.
00:05:49 --> 00:05:58 Ms. Ajavon also co-founded the Liberian Diaspora Agricultural Group and an agribusiness
00:05:58 --> 00:06:02 advocating for small and medium-sized farmers.
00:06:03 --> 00:06:09 During the COVID pandemic, her leadership helped feed over 5 families in Newcastle County.
00:06:10 --> 00:06:14 As an advocate for education, she collaborates with schools in West Africa to
00:06:14 --> 00:06:17 promote literacy and provide scholarships.
00:06:17 --> 00:06:23 Her political aspirations have further demonstrated her commitment to service
00:06:23 --> 00:06:30 with her campaigns for a Delaware State Representative and Newcastle County Clerk of the Peace.
00:06:30 --> 00:06:36 Ms. Ajavon also serves on several boards, including Nerdic Cares,
00:06:37 --> 00:06:42 the Friends of Cooch's Bridge, and had previously supported organizations like
00:06:42 --> 00:06:46 the Newark NAACP and the Women's Business Center.
00:06:47 --> 00:06:53 She is an adjunct professor at Wilmington University and a guest lecturer at
00:06:53 --> 00:06:56 the University of Pennsylvania and the University of Delaware.
00:06:56 --> 00:07:01 With a master's degree from Wilmington University and an undergraduate degree
00:07:01 --> 00:07:03 from Widener University, Ms.
00:07:03 --> 00:07:09 Ajavan is also the proud mother of three children and a devoted grandmother.
00:07:10 --> 00:07:17 Her relentless commitment to service continues to inspire and empower communities worldwide.
00:07:17 --> 00:07:24 So without further ado, I would like to welcome to the show and one of my best
00:07:24 --> 00:07:27 friends, Ms. Aja Ajvon. How are you today?
00:07:28 --> 00:07:30 I am well. I was wondering who you were talking about.
00:07:32 --> 00:07:37 Welcome, welcome, welcome. I was like, okay, that's all the time we got tonight, folks.
00:07:37 --> 00:07:40 We already know about it. Let's go.
00:07:41 --> 00:07:45 So thank you for coming to hang out with us tonight, you know,
00:07:45 --> 00:07:48 us little people, you know, hanging out with us little people tonight because,
00:07:49 --> 00:07:53 you know, that's pretty impressive what you got, what he had to say about you. Pretty impressive.
00:07:54 --> 00:08:01 You know, I'll pay you later, Leonard. Thank you. I need my money up front.
00:08:03 --> 00:08:08 But, you know, on a serious note, you know, I do want to welcome you to the show.
00:08:08 --> 00:08:13 I know usually when we have guests, we kind of speak about how we know this
00:08:13 --> 00:08:14 person or where we met or whatever.
00:08:15 --> 00:08:19 And, you know, it kind of they I'm not going to lie. It feels weird trying to
00:08:19 --> 00:08:22 say how I know I've known her so long.
00:08:22 --> 00:08:25 So it's almost like one of your cousins and someone asked you like how do you
00:08:25 --> 00:08:29 know them you're like how do i know them yeah you know what you mean i know
00:08:29 --> 00:08:31 i like i've known them ever since,
00:08:32 --> 00:08:35 and you know i just one of them people for me i consider
00:08:35 --> 00:08:38 her a great friend and to be honest i feel like i've
00:08:38 --> 00:08:41 known her ever since even though i know that's not the case but it
00:08:41 --> 00:08:44 still feel like it anyway how many years has
00:08:44 --> 00:08:48 it been since you guys how many years has it been so i
00:08:48 --> 00:08:55 definitely know 15 i definitely know i knew her in 2012 i'm not sure where it
00:08:55 --> 00:09:02 goes back before that but 2012 is the earliest like actual instance of friendship
00:09:02 --> 00:09:06 that i can remember oh so you met her after you met her after you met me.
00:09:13 --> 00:09:19 All right all right y'all don't don't fight over all those points I wish he
00:09:19 --> 00:09:21 was a little boy when we met.
00:09:24 --> 00:09:27 No, my son. Okay.
00:09:28 --> 00:09:35 Well, Leonard was a little boy when you met, too. I mean, I was in my 30s.
00:09:35 --> 00:09:39 I mean, that's how young. Yeah, so was I.
00:09:41 --> 00:09:46 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I was too, by the way, but go ahead.
00:09:47 --> 00:09:52 See, now you're just lying. Okay, I stretched it too far. I went too far with it. Okay. All right.
00:09:53 --> 00:09:56 But bringing everything back, of course, Aja, you know, thank you for coming
00:09:56 --> 00:09:59 on News and Trends with myself and David.
00:10:00 --> 00:10:04 So, you know, I guess if we can kind of take it back a little bit.
00:10:05 --> 00:10:07 So, you know, we know you have Houston roots.
00:10:08 --> 00:10:14 And I guess prior to that, you know, because you said you were born in Liberia, correct?
00:10:15 --> 00:10:21 I was, yes. Okay. So, you know, I guess from a young age and I always feel like
00:10:21 --> 00:10:24 people who are community focused, you know, it doesn't start when you grow up.
00:10:24 --> 00:10:30 You know, I feel like it's kind of inbred in you or maybe not inbred, but you know what I mean?
00:10:31 --> 00:10:35 But, you know, where did you kind of gain your sense of community,
00:10:35 --> 00:10:38 sense of wanting to help people, sense of giving back?
00:10:39 --> 00:10:45 From my village. So the saying, it takes a village, it literally does take a village.
00:10:46 --> 00:10:50 Growing up in Africa, it was all about community. Everybody was one.
00:10:50 --> 00:10:52 Everybody knew everybody.
00:10:52 --> 00:10:55 Everybody looked after, you know, look out for everyone.
00:10:56 --> 00:11:00 You know, if I misbehaved,
00:11:00 --> 00:11:06 my aunt, to who was in my biological aunt, but my community aunt would chastise
00:11:06 --> 00:11:12 me, you know, if, and vice versa from, you know, that's how we did it.
00:11:12 --> 00:11:19 So if you grew up in that community, which was Caldwell, and we had a close-knit
00:11:19 --> 00:11:21 relationship within that village.
00:11:21 --> 00:11:26 And I just think that's where my community, love of community comes from,
00:11:26 --> 00:11:29 because everyone seemed to look out for
00:11:29 --> 00:11:32 each other and everyone to see everyone wanted to see
00:11:32 --> 00:11:35 you know people do good you
00:11:35 --> 00:11:38 know because when you do good the community does good everybody
00:11:38 --> 00:11:41 grow and that's where i kind of just flourished
00:11:41 --> 00:11:48 as i grew up okay so then kind of spinning that into was was every man counts
00:11:48 --> 00:11:54 was that one of your first if not the first non-profit that you founded or were
00:11:54 --> 00:11:59 kind of really involved in it was not the first nonprofit that I was involved in,
00:11:59 --> 00:12:05 but it was the first nonprofit that I founded prior to Every Minute Counts. Yes.
00:12:05 --> 00:12:08 I have worked in several other nonprofits.
00:12:08 --> 00:12:15 One of the largest one was Catholic Charities. I was a coordinator for Catholic
00:12:15 --> 00:12:17 Charities in the Family Life Bureau section.
00:12:17 --> 00:12:23 And I did all of the groups, pre-canum, post-canum, You're Not Alone,
00:12:23 --> 00:12:28 groups for adolescence and pre-adolescence, widows and widowers.
00:12:28 --> 00:12:33 So I started my nonprofit journey from home.
00:12:33 --> 00:12:37 From that organization. Okay.
00:12:37 --> 00:12:43 Now, speaking specifically about EverymanCounts, for people who are not familiar
00:12:43 --> 00:12:49 for the listeners, can you briefly describe, I guess, what EverymanCounts is
00:12:49 --> 00:12:51 and some of the services that you provide?
00:12:52 --> 00:12:54 Absolutely. Absolutely.
00:12:55 --> 00:13:00 EverymanCounts is basically, our mission is to educate,
00:13:00 --> 00:13:07 empower, and encourage single and re-entry fathers to build a bond with their
00:13:07 --> 00:13:11 children and navigate the family support system to be successful financially,
00:13:12 --> 00:13:18 emotionally, and just all around well-rounded father.
00:13:18 --> 00:13:24 So Everyman Counts started as a project, as an initiative when I was in grad school.
00:13:24 --> 00:13:31 And I did a research on why the recidivism rate was so high in the state of
00:13:31 --> 00:13:35 Delaware amongst Black and brown fathers.
00:13:35 --> 00:13:40 And in doing the research, I learned that majority of the fathers that were,
00:13:41 --> 00:13:47 incarcerated were there because of something to do with family court.
00:13:48 --> 00:13:54 And we're not talking about violent crimes or felonies, we're talking about misdemeanor.
00:13:54 --> 00:13:59 And so I was like, well, at the time I was a mediator in family court and I
00:13:59 --> 00:14:01 kind of pulled two and two together.
00:14:01 --> 00:14:08 I'm like, okay, I see why fathers will recidivate misdemeanor wise because they're
00:14:08 --> 00:14:14 failure to provide a failure to do what they needed to do based on what the
00:14:14 --> 00:14:16 court's requirements were.
00:14:17 --> 00:14:24 So in doing that research, my professor at the time was director for the Department of Justice.
00:14:24 --> 00:14:30 And when he saw my project, he's like, you know, this could be an actual thing.
00:14:30 --> 00:14:34 So, you know, you're just doing a project to get your master's and you have to present it.
00:14:35 --> 00:14:38 So he said, this could be an actual thing. Have you ever thought about it?
00:14:38 --> 00:14:42 I'm like, not really, because who's going to really listen to a woman, you know,
00:14:42 --> 00:14:47 trying to push a program that helps men who are going to jail,
00:14:47 --> 00:14:53 help them stop the recidivism rate and increase their livelihood and build that
00:14:53 --> 00:14:58 relationship between the mothers and their children and the dads.
00:14:58 --> 00:15:02 So I was kind of skeptical when he said that, but nonetheless,
00:15:02 --> 00:15:05 I said, you know, I'll try it. And that's what I did.
00:15:06 --> 00:15:10 In 2014, I graduated with my master's in 2013.
00:15:11 --> 00:15:16 2014, I started Every Man Counts as an initiative, just, you know,
00:15:16 --> 00:15:19 going around asking questions, what do men need to hear?
00:15:19 --> 00:15:25 And I felt that they were missing the education piece about their rights and
00:15:25 --> 00:15:28 responsibilities in family court.
00:15:28 --> 00:15:32 So we started, first talk was a barbershop conversation.
00:15:32 --> 00:15:37 We started going to various barbershops in the city of Wilmington to listen
00:15:37 --> 00:15:41 to men and hear what they had to say about the obstacles they were facing when
00:15:41 --> 00:15:45 they came to family court and why they recidivate.
00:15:46 --> 00:15:50 From that one barbershop, it grew to many other barbershop conversation.
00:15:51 --> 00:15:55 It grew so much that we outgrew the barbershop. We had to have our barbershop
00:15:55 --> 00:15:57 conversation at a touch auditorium.
00:15:58 --> 00:16:02 So, cause we had so many people involved because it was a great conversation.
00:16:02 --> 00:16:06 People wanted to know, they learned, they heard from their peers.
00:16:06 --> 00:16:09 You know, everybody didn't have the same story.
00:16:09 --> 00:16:14 You know, everybody had a unique story. So it was something that was welcomed
00:16:14 --> 00:16:17 by the community, by the churches, by the courts.
00:16:17 --> 00:16:22 And after the barbershop conversation, we saw that, you know,
00:16:22 --> 00:16:24 there were no activities in
00:16:24 --> 00:16:30 the state of Delaware that focused on fathers and their children, per se.
00:16:31 --> 00:16:35 In reincarcerated fathers, fathers coming out into the communities.
00:16:35 --> 00:16:41 There were nothing because, you know, at that time in 2013, 2014,
00:16:42 --> 00:16:47 you know, everything was kind of new and a little chaotic because people didn't
00:16:47 --> 00:16:49 really focus on their second chance.
00:16:49 --> 00:16:53 You know, we were still fighting to ban the box on your application.
00:16:53 --> 00:16:58 We were still trying to make sure that when these fathers come out of prison,
00:16:59 --> 00:17:00 they can get a job without being
00:17:00 --> 00:17:03 stigmatized as the fact that they have a record so they can't get a job.
00:17:03 --> 00:17:09 At the same time, Obama had just did an initiative called My Brother's Keeper.
00:17:10 --> 00:17:16 And so he was trying to do basically what we were doing, figure out how to better
00:17:16 --> 00:17:22 and reduce the recidivism rate by focusing on men and men of color at that.
00:17:22 --> 00:17:27 So, you know, from that initiative, which helped us out when we first started,
00:17:28 --> 00:17:33 thanks to the Obama monies that came through that program, it helped us do a
00:17:33 --> 00:17:36 lot of things and move every bank account to the next level.
00:17:37 --> 00:17:40 So that's a little bit about the beginning. Gotcha.
00:17:40 --> 00:17:46 And I'm sure over the years, you probably had a lot of success stories and people
00:17:46 --> 00:17:47 that you really helped out.
00:17:47 --> 00:17:51 And Dave, you know, Aja even helped me out too.
00:17:51 --> 00:17:55 I was going through, when I was going through my divorce and I think my money
00:17:55 --> 00:17:59 was tight and, you know, she kind of, you know, I remember exactly,
00:17:59 --> 00:18:05 I met her at the Bayer Library and I had my paperwork and she told me what to fill out.
00:18:05 --> 00:18:08 And I was like, but are you sure? because, you know, lawyer this and lawyer that.
00:18:09 --> 00:18:11 And you know what she said, Dave?
00:18:12 --> 00:18:14 She's like, Leonard, listen to me.
00:18:16 --> 00:18:21 She's like, Leonard, listen to me. If you do this, you will be okay.
00:18:21 --> 00:18:25 And I did exactly what she said. And Dave, I was okay. In fact,
00:18:25 --> 00:18:26 I made out better than okay.
00:18:28 --> 00:18:32 So, but, you know, I just say that to say, I'm sure there's a lot of people that you've helped.
00:18:32 --> 00:18:37 So do you are you able to briefly tell us about maybe maybe one of,
00:18:37 --> 00:18:42 you know, the people you've helped and their let's say their testimony kind
00:18:42 --> 00:18:46 of meant the most to you about, you know, how you impacted their life?
00:18:47 --> 00:18:51 Wow. There's so many testimony. That's why it was so difficult.
00:18:51 --> 00:18:56 We're trying to do a recording of video for our 10th year.
00:18:58 --> 00:19:02 And the videographer has said, I have to narrow it down because he has so many
00:19:02 --> 00:19:03 people that was calling him.
00:19:03 --> 00:19:06 Like, you know, I just said, you know, she wants people to talk.
00:19:07 --> 00:19:11 You know, I thought we're only going to get three. I think we had like 12 that called him.
00:19:11 --> 00:19:15 And he's like, I can't do 12. I'm like, okay, then narrow it down.
00:19:15 --> 00:19:21 So we narrowed down to three. But there's so many testimonies that I have heard
00:19:21 --> 00:19:29 from guys and a few women who have gone through our program and has been very successful.
00:19:29 --> 00:19:34 And all I tell you is follow the program. You will be successful.
00:19:34 --> 00:19:39 If you don't follow it, I cannot guarantee, you know, a positive outcome.
00:19:39 --> 00:19:44 But once you follow it, you will be fine. You will save money and you will be successful.
00:19:45 --> 00:19:50 So there's, oh my God, there's one case that still stand out.
00:19:50 --> 00:19:55 So gentlemen, I remember when we first started, we had a little office in the
00:19:55 --> 00:19:59 basement at 28th and Markets.
00:20:00 --> 00:20:05 And when I say in the basement, it was in the basement. You ain't lie about that.
00:20:05 --> 00:20:10 Yeah. He went to the courts and was going through some things.
00:20:10 --> 00:20:17 And mom had, you know, left with the child, like left the state. Didn't tell him.
00:20:18 --> 00:20:21 They were going back and forth, back and forth. And he went to the court.
00:20:21 --> 00:20:27 And one of the judges, we had just started. One of the judges had told him,
00:20:27 --> 00:20:30 well, I'm going to send you to X, Y, and Z.
00:20:31 --> 00:20:37 She might be able to help you, you know, talk to you and get you situated.
00:20:37 --> 00:20:40 And she asked, she's an advocate for fathers like yourself.
00:20:42 --> 00:20:47 So we got a call from the judge's secretary and said, we're referring X, Y, and Z, T.
00:20:47 --> 00:20:52 And I'm like, okay, no problem. I'm excited because, you know, we had just started.
00:20:52 --> 00:20:55 We're in the basement. Nobody knows where we are.
00:20:55 --> 00:20:59 I mean, this is where, I'm telling you, we came to the office.
00:20:59 --> 00:21:01 Sometimes there were needles in front of the door.
00:21:02 --> 00:21:05 We even had junkies laying out in front of the doors at times.
00:21:05 --> 00:21:08 But, you know, when you first start, you got to start somewhere.
00:21:08 --> 00:21:10 So this gentleman comes in.
00:21:11 --> 00:21:15 And he looked very skeptical, like, shoot, I need to go get an attorney.
00:21:15 --> 00:21:19 I was like, okay, if the judge felt that you needed an attorney,
00:21:19 --> 00:21:23 she would have told you, get yourself an attorney, not an advocate.
00:21:23 --> 00:21:27 So he was still skeptical. He came in, he told me what happened.
00:21:27 --> 00:21:31 And I told him, I said, you know, this is what you need to do.
00:21:31 --> 00:21:34 And you have to follow these rules, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:21:34 --> 00:21:39 So he was still skeptical, you know, because some people, they just believe
00:21:39 --> 00:21:42 attorneys are the right, right?
00:21:43 --> 00:21:47 Advocates don't know anything about it. We're not giving you any legal advice.
00:21:47 --> 00:21:51 That's the thing, because we're not saying, oh, legally, you got to do this.
00:21:51 --> 00:21:57 No, there's so many ways to combat the judicial system without going the legal route.
00:21:59 --> 00:22:05 So after we had our first consultation the judge called me I had to give a report,
00:22:06 --> 00:22:10 and I told the judge you know this guy doesn't seem like he wants to follow
00:22:10 --> 00:22:16 you know want to go through with us but you know this is what happened so she's
00:22:16 --> 00:22:22 like okay no problem thanks for trying we left it he went ahead and filed paperwork
00:22:22 --> 00:22:25 with the courts it was denied now all this time the child is gone,
00:22:25 --> 00:22:29 the mom took the child. He doesn't know where the child is, but he's trying to get the child back.
00:22:30 --> 00:22:38 So a month goes by, one of his friends came in as a client and followed everything
00:22:38 --> 00:22:39 and was very successful.
00:22:40 --> 00:22:45 So two months go by. Now, when a child leaves the state, whatever state you're
00:22:45 --> 00:22:49 in, and they're out of that state for more than six months, the other state
00:22:49 --> 00:22:49 wouldn't have jurisdiction.
00:22:50 --> 00:22:56 So I think it was like to the fifth month, he couldn't get anywhere. So he came to us finally.
00:22:56 --> 00:23:01 And he asked us, you know, to help him. So anyway, we did what we did.
00:23:01 --> 00:23:06 Long story short, he was able to get his daughter back, full custody.
00:23:06 --> 00:23:09 Daughter lives with him. So
00:23:09 --> 00:23:13 he wrote a beautiful letter to the judge on my behalf. We didn't ask him.
00:23:13 --> 00:23:17 We didn't, you know, pressure him, nothing. He just wrote a letter to the judge
00:23:17 --> 00:23:22 saying that had the judge not referred him to us or referred him to me,
00:23:22 --> 00:23:23 he wouldn't know where his daughter
00:23:23 --> 00:23:26 would be. He would have lost his daughter and I was his only child.
00:23:26 --> 00:23:31 You know, in life, Everybody is skeptical, and I'll be very honest.
00:23:32 --> 00:23:38 We, as people of color, we tend not to trust other people of color.
00:23:39 --> 00:23:45 Even though the judge that was referring him to me was a white judge that told him, trust her.
00:23:46 --> 00:23:50 She worked with us for many years. She would be a better person for you to go
00:23:50 --> 00:23:56 through her instead of going and get an attorney and you pay all this money and stuff like that.
00:23:56 --> 00:24:01 He didn't trust it. But at the end, he was successful because he finally came
00:24:01 --> 00:24:05 through five months before the sixth month he came through.
00:24:06 --> 00:24:11 So it's so sad, but this is some of the things I deal with. I'm going to say something.
00:24:12 --> 00:24:15 I had a lady and a gentleman that came into the office today,
00:24:16 --> 00:24:17 and they found me on Facebook.
00:24:18 --> 00:24:24 Found us on Facebook from a comment that someone made in a group in 2015.
00:24:25 --> 00:24:33 She showed it to me. Someone made a comment in 2015 in a group that said to
00:24:33 --> 00:24:37 use every man count. They will work with you.
00:24:37 --> 00:24:44 And I didn't even know that was in that group. That's how she found us for her new husband.
00:24:44 --> 00:24:47 And when she showed me that today, I was like, wow.
00:24:47 --> 00:24:52 And it was not someone from our community that found me.
00:24:52 --> 00:24:58 It was not. It was a Caucasian family. He was trying to get his grandson.
00:24:59 --> 00:25:04 That's not her grandson. That's his grandson. He's trying to do guardianship.
00:25:06 --> 00:25:11 It speaks volume. Yes, we don't advertise. Everything that counts is not an
00:25:11 --> 00:25:14 advertiser. We don't do advertising. It's all word of mouth.
00:25:15 --> 00:25:18 The courts refer guys to us. The,
00:25:19 --> 00:25:28 Department of Justice, probation of parole, other agencies that deal with fathers will then re-entry men.
00:25:28 --> 00:25:32 Fathers will refer to us. So we don't go out there and advertise and say,
00:25:32 --> 00:25:35 this is what we do. This is what I've done.
00:25:36 --> 00:25:43 Ten years in service speaks volume. Wow. Now, does it feel like ten years?
00:25:43 --> 00:25:46 Do you feel like you've been doing a long time? Does it feel shorter?
00:25:46 --> 00:25:48 It feels like 50 years.
00:25:50 --> 00:25:53 And well let me ask let me ask a follow-up question
00:25:53 --> 00:25:56 in those 10 years how many people
00:25:56 --> 00:26:00 do you think you've helped oh maybe
00:26:00 --> 00:26:04 about three to four thousand wow and
00:26:04 --> 00:26:07 the reason why I say that because we do groups and you can't yeah
00:26:07 --> 00:26:10 you can't really say individually because sometimes
00:26:10 --> 00:26:14 I don't know you've been in some of our barbershop conversations right
00:26:14 --> 00:26:17 and you've been to some of our groups and the numbers are there
00:26:17 --> 00:26:20 you know our trips that
00:26:20 --> 00:26:22 we take you know the impact when you walk in
00:26:22 --> 00:26:25 the streets and people i remember years ago people used to call me the child support
00:26:25 --> 00:26:29 lady yeah oh it
00:26:29 --> 00:26:32 was the child support lady because you know you help someone with child oh she's
00:26:32 --> 00:26:40 a child lady you know i've just been blessed to be able to help as much as i
00:26:40 --> 00:26:48 can educate because my thing is as an educator it's important to educate because once you teach people,
00:26:49 --> 00:26:54 something they will remember and they will use it always if you do it for them,
00:26:55 --> 00:27:02 which attorneys do, they do it for you. You're not learning every time you are coming back to them.
00:27:02 --> 00:27:08 And sometimes people like saying, that's why we do a lot of work with attorneys
00:27:08 --> 00:27:16 that will give us pro bono work with us because they feel that what we're doing is so valuable.
00:27:17 --> 00:27:21 And the impact that we're making, they want to be a part of it.
00:27:21 --> 00:27:26 So we often have attorneys, big, powerful attorneys in the state of Delaware
00:27:26 --> 00:27:31 that will do cases pro bono for some of our clients.
00:27:33 --> 00:27:39 Speaking about 10 years, we know you have a big event coming up.
00:27:39 --> 00:27:44 It's your 10th year anniversary for Everyman Camps.
00:27:45 --> 00:27:50 Can you tell us about that event and what you have planned for? Oh, my God.
00:27:51 --> 00:27:55 Yeah, I'm so overwhelmed with the planning and the processes.
00:27:56 --> 00:28:00 So it's going to be on December 4th. The tickets are $100.
00:28:00 --> 00:28:05 It's not $150. It's not $130. It's only $100 because it's for our 10th year.
00:28:06 --> 00:28:09 This is the first time we've been recharged that high. I think the highest we
00:28:09 --> 00:28:15 ever charged was $65. But it's going to be at the Waterfall Banquet Hall in Claremont, Delaware.
00:28:15 --> 00:28:19 And everybody knows the Waterfall Banquet Hall is exquisite.
00:28:20 --> 00:28:22 The food is phenomenal.
00:28:23 --> 00:28:35 The ambiance is tranquil. It is top notch. So you're paying for the venue, the experience.
00:28:37 --> 00:28:44 It's going to be on the 4th. Every year since 2015, we've honored fathers in the community.
00:28:44 --> 00:28:49 We've honored men who are doing phenomenal things in the community.
00:28:50 --> 00:28:55 Men coming out of prison who have changed their lives to incorporate their children.
00:28:56 --> 00:29:00 Men who don't have children but impact children in the community.
00:29:00 --> 00:29:06 Who has made a difference in the lives of their peers and their children.
00:29:06 --> 00:29:12 So this is our ninth year honoring, but our 10th year as an organization.
00:29:13 --> 00:29:19 So we're doing it at the waterfall. And the theme is a celebration of kings.
00:29:20 --> 00:29:26 Because I think every man is a king in his own right. Right.
00:29:27 --> 00:29:32 I personally have my own, you know, idea of what a king should be.
00:29:33 --> 00:29:42 And I honor a man, a father or a father figure, who's doing exceptionally well
00:29:42 --> 00:29:46 for himself and for his family and the community.
00:29:46 --> 00:29:52 So we have some great honorees this year. And every year we've had some outstanding honoree.
00:29:52 --> 00:29:55 Father of the year is christopher pernell
00:29:55 --> 00:29:58 who is the director at the wilmington pal
00:29:58 --> 00:30:06 his story is so uplifting i had to recuse myself from this election this year
00:30:06 --> 00:30:14 because i knew majority of the i mean yes so there there was about what i want
00:30:14 --> 00:30:18 to say i think it was but anywhere from 36 to 37,
00:30:18 --> 00:30:24 38, I had Stop County nominees because we had it out there since the end of,
00:30:24 --> 00:30:27 since the middle of September, the first of September, I'm sorry.
00:30:28 --> 00:30:34 To the end of October for the community to nominate their father of father figures.
00:30:35 --> 00:30:39 And believe me, my team had a very hard time picking.
00:30:39 --> 00:30:46 So this year we ended up having two community service fathers and two fatherhood
00:30:46 --> 00:30:48 advocates. Usually we only have one.
00:30:49 --> 00:30:56 But we had so many that it was so hard to pick. So I had to stay out of it. Totally out of it.
00:30:56 --> 00:31:01 We had some really great guys. There's so much work being done out there that
00:31:01 --> 00:31:05 we don't hear about and everybody's doing everything in silos.
00:31:06 --> 00:31:11 But it's out there. And we're proud to honor those men.
00:31:11 --> 00:31:17 So I hope you guys have gotten your tickets because you need to be there we're
00:31:17 --> 00:31:25 waiting on you to get them to us okay I'll get them to us, we do cash app we do,
00:31:27 --> 00:31:32 we do cash app, we do Venmo, we do all forms of payment.
00:31:35 --> 00:31:40 You would think you would think that we have some kind of carte blanche but
00:31:40 --> 00:31:45 I guess we don't we don't have carte blanche with anybody You know,
00:31:45 --> 00:31:50 you know, you know, because you guys,
00:31:50 --> 00:31:53 you guys are getting to interview me on the podcast.
00:31:54 --> 00:32:01 So that's the bonus. There it is. OK. All right. You know, it's a fundraiser.
00:32:02 --> 00:32:03 It's a fundraiser. I know. We know.
00:32:04 --> 00:32:10 Now, I just real super quick. Can you tell us who? Because your host or keynote
00:32:10 --> 00:32:14 speaker is also one of another one of our friends to the show, too. Can you?
00:32:15 --> 00:32:18 Yeah. And I'm going to say briefly because the last one was brief.
00:32:19 --> 00:32:24 But if you can briefly if if you if you can breathe, if you can briefly tell
00:32:24 --> 00:32:27 us about your keynote speaker for the event as well.
00:32:28 --> 00:32:36 Yes, we have Dave Woolley, who was the very first nominated father of the year. I think it was 2015.
00:32:36 --> 00:32:38 He was our father of the year.
00:32:39 --> 00:32:43 And I'm so happy that he accepted our invitation to speak because,
00:32:43 --> 00:32:45 you know, Dave is phenomenal.
00:32:45 --> 00:32:51 Single father raising two girls on his own who have turned out so successful, both girls.
00:32:51 --> 00:32:55 He is so proud of his daughters. You can hear it in his voice.
00:32:55 --> 00:32:58 His eyes light up when he speaks about
00:32:58 --> 00:33:05 them it is it's crazy right so he's he's our keynote speaker we cannot say can
00:33:05 --> 00:33:12 i talk about our honorees just a brief well how about you say their names and
00:33:12 --> 00:33:16 say their names and why you chose them i didn't choose them okay.
00:33:17 --> 00:33:23 I didn't choose them i just said okay once the non once the my team chose them
00:33:23 --> 00:33:28 but i think they made great choices i had to look at you know through it so
00:33:28 --> 00:33:32 like i said i had to recuse myself from it because i knew of a couple of people
00:33:32 --> 00:33:36 and what are their names yes so we have,
00:33:37 --> 00:33:46 do was it innovative father we have yeah what darian harris we have and i already
00:33:46 --> 00:33:50 mentioned our Spider of the Year, Christopher Purnell.
00:33:51 --> 00:33:57 Who else? Teron Warren, who is an unsung hero, and I think everybody knows him as BVD.
00:33:58 --> 00:34:02 Antoine Flowers is one of our community service nominees.
00:34:03 --> 00:34:10 Joel Austin is an advocate father. Dr. Jonathan Wilson Jr., advocate father.
00:34:11 --> 00:34:20 Anthony let me see I'm trying to read this Anthony Stanzel is our community service father.
00:34:21 --> 00:34:26 So that's it. Those are all our nominees. And then we have a special recognition, though.
00:34:26 --> 00:34:31 And this was before they became elected officials.
00:34:31 --> 00:34:37 We have Matt Meyer, governor-elect, Councilwoman Letitia Bracey,
00:34:38 --> 00:34:40 and county executive-elect Marcus Henry.
00:34:41 --> 00:34:45 That's awesome. And the reason is why we're recognizing them,
00:34:45 --> 00:34:48 they have been strong supporters of every main count.
00:34:49 --> 00:34:55 Very, very strong supporter. Matt even gave us a proclamation for Every Man
00:34:55 --> 00:34:57 Counts Daddy and Daughter Tea Party.
00:34:58 --> 00:35:01 Marcus Henry has been a supporter.
00:35:01 --> 00:35:08 He was at our event last year. He's always supported our annual Fatherhood Award ceremonies, always.
00:35:09 --> 00:35:16 And Leticia Bracey Tish, as we call her, she is our biggest sponsor for our
00:35:16 --> 00:35:17 Daddy and Daughter Tea Party.
00:35:18 --> 00:35:22 It's like everybody likes the daddy and daughter teeth parties but you know
00:35:22 --> 00:35:27 and the good thing is matt is a first-time father so it just comes it's just
00:35:27 --> 00:35:29 perfect timing yes perfect perfect timing,
00:35:30 --> 00:35:33 okay awesome uh dave you have questions
00:35:33 --> 00:35:39 as well oh okay all right thank you for allowing me to speak sir i appreciate
00:35:39 --> 00:35:46 it i try okay all right well i mean you and leonard covered a lot there but
00:35:46 --> 00:35:50 I want to kind of pick your brain on a couple of things.
00:35:51 --> 00:35:56 So every man speaks, right?
00:35:58 --> 00:36:03 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm going somewhere else. I'm going somewhere else.
00:36:04 --> 00:36:12 Every man speaks and they speak in a, in a way of trying to do what's right and trying to,
00:36:13 --> 00:36:16 trying to do what's good for their families as
00:36:16 --> 00:36:19 well as themselves especially those that are in re-entry
00:36:19 --> 00:36:24 mode or those that are trying to
00:36:24 --> 00:36:27 bounce back from of various
00:36:27 --> 00:36:31 situations even coming back from being in
00:36:31 --> 00:36:33 the service military whatever the case may be because
00:36:33 --> 00:36:37 that's all also a part of re-entry into
00:36:37 --> 00:36:41 society because it could be our transition itself when
00:36:41 --> 00:36:44 you meet somebody like that and they
00:36:44 --> 00:36:47 have a lot to say about what's not
00:36:47 --> 00:36:53 being done for them how do you get them turned around and how do you help them
00:36:53 --> 00:37:00 with trying to change that narrative first of all you have to understand where
00:37:00 --> 00:37:06 they're coming from you have to understand what is lacking in their community that they're in now.
00:37:07 --> 00:37:13 So let's use someone from the service. When someone comes from the service,
00:37:13 --> 00:37:15 one thing they're going to suffer from is PTSD.
00:37:16 --> 00:37:21 So you have to make sure that they have the ample, the resources they need for
00:37:21 --> 00:37:23 mental health counseling.
00:37:23 --> 00:37:27 Because that's one of the biggest things that they suffer from.
00:37:28 --> 00:37:31 Without mental health, you can give them healthy, you can give them food,
00:37:31 --> 00:37:34 you can give them a job. But if they don't have proper mental health treatment.
00:37:34 --> 00:37:40 It's hard for them to receive anything on a full scale, a full level.
00:37:40 --> 00:37:48 So that's the first thing we do. We try to diagnose or try to understand if
00:37:48 --> 00:37:52 there's any diagnoses of this person's psyche before we even try to help them.
00:37:52 --> 00:37:58 Because if you help someone that's not ready to be helped, it's for naught, right?
00:37:58 --> 00:38:01 You're wasting your time. So that's the first thing.
00:38:01 --> 00:38:05 When men to come out of prison, which was something that we're really trying
00:38:05 --> 00:38:08 to work on next year, is to start.
00:38:09 --> 00:38:14 The rehabilitation process in the prison. You know, a lot of people say,
00:38:14 --> 00:38:16 quote unquote, oh, you then go to prison, they're going to, oh,
00:38:17 --> 00:38:19 people go to prison and they'll be rehabilitated. That's a lie.
00:38:20 --> 00:38:24 Rehabilitation does not happen in the prison. It happens when you leave the prison.
00:38:24 --> 00:38:31 But I think it should start within the prison first, helping them understand that there is trauma.
00:38:31 --> 00:38:35 You know, being incarcerated or even being in the service, that is something
00:38:35 --> 00:38:40 new to life. and there's a lot of trauma. You're seeing people being killed.
00:38:40 --> 00:38:45 You're hearing gunshots. You're not eating when you're supposed to eat.
00:38:46 --> 00:38:49 You're missing your family. You don't know whether you're going to live today or tomorrow.
00:38:51 --> 00:38:56 There's no way of knowing what's going to happen next. Same thing with prison.
00:38:57 --> 00:38:58 With prison, it's the opposite.
00:38:58 --> 00:39:04 You're incarcerated. You're in an environment where you're controlled.
00:39:04 --> 00:39:07 Someone tell you when to wake up, when to eat, when to play,
00:39:07 --> 00:39:12 when I watch, when I speak, you know, both instances is the same,
00:39:12 --> 00:39:19 but yet different, but it still, you know, encompasses mental health, both of them.
00:39:19 --> 00:39:24 So when we approach those things, we have to approach it very diligently and
00:39:24 --> 00:39:28 make sure that the men that are coming out seek that before we can offer them any service.
00:39:30 --> 00:39:34 All right. That's good. I mean, you know, being a person that's in,
00:39:34 --> 00:39:40 you know, in the service to the drill myself, you know, those types of things
00:39:40 --> 00:39:43 are always very important when it comes to dealing with folks.
00:39:43 --> 00:39:50 And especially nowadays, because of mental illness, mental illness is a very big thing right now.
00:39:50 --> 00:39:56 So you have to be able to be able to communicate with the people that you're
00:39:56 --> 00:40:00 dealing with, and not just men, but of course, as you said earlier, some women as well.
00:40:01 --> 00:40:08 So, and especially those women who are dealing with those men in order to try to help them both,
00:40:09 --> 00:40:17 cope with the situations that are going on. How many people are in your organization?
00:40:17 --> 00:40:26 How many, what's the, you know, do you have a number of therapists that work along with you?
00:40:26 --> 00:40:30 Do you have, you know, as far as legal advice?
00:40:30 --> 00:40:36 I mean, how's your organization set up as far as the people that work with you?
00:40:36 --> 00:40:39 We have, everybody's a volunteer.
00:40:39 --> 00:40:43 We have a couple of therapists that we work with that work with us.
00:40:43 --> 00:40:47 We have a group called the Empowered Man Wellness Group.
00:40:47 --> 00:40:53 And that group has a therapist and also a psychologist.
00:40:54 --> 00:40:56 I think it's a psychologist or psychiatrist.
00:40:57 --> 00:41:01 She writes, she has a script. She can write medication. Psychologist.
00:41:02 --> 00:41:07 Psychologist, yes. So this group here focuses on men.
00:41:07 --> 00:41:13 And I think we have our one woman in that group, but she hasn't come much.
00:41:13 --> 00:41:14 She came once and that was it.
00:41:15 --> 00:41:19 It focuses on PTSD, sexuality, and mental health.
00:41:20 --> 00:41:23 So we say sexuality, there's so many things that we don't talk about.
00:41:24 --> 00:41:31 Mental health is the umbrella of form of disability of the mind, right?
00:41:32 --> 00:41:36 So with that, it comes with men who are being raped in prison.
00:41:37 --> 00:41:43 Were then violated, whether they were raped willingly or not.
00:41:43 --> 00:41:49 It's just something that they don't talk about because it is a shameful matter.
00:41:49 --> 00:41:54 We talk about PTSD coming out of trauma.
00:41:54 --> 00:42:00 Many of those men and women will get into prison and be isolated from their
00:42:00 --> 00:42:04 peers and all that builds trauma.
00:42:04 --> 00:42:09 And so we started this group after COVID because during COVID,
00:42:09 --> 00:42:15 many of the fathers that went through our group prior to COVID had access to their children.
00:42:15 --> 00:42:19 But during the COVID, they couldn't have access to their children because mothers
00:42:19 --> 00:42:23 used COVID as an excuse for them not to be involved.
00:42:24 --> 00:42:30 So, you know, percentage of them went back into prison and some of them even committed suicide.
00:42:31 --> 00:42:37 So after that, we decided to start the group Empower Man Wellness Series.
00:42:39 --> 00:42:46 So we say empowered man. We want to empower them because when a man goes through
00:42:46 --> 00:42:51 mental health, it diminishes their self-esteem.
00:42:51 --> 00:42:56 So this group now builds their power, builds them up, empower them to be who
00:42:56 --> 00:43:00 they are rightfully, who they should be. Right.
00:43:00 --> 00:43:03 And their wellness is the full circle.
00:43:04 --> 00:43:07 It's like the holistic part of it, bringing all that into that,
00:43:08 --> 00:43:13 that circumference to make sure that they're fully well-rounded and well taken care of.
00:43:14 --> 00:43:19 So that's why we developed this group. This is our third year and it's doing well.
00:43:19 --> 00:43:22 It's not a large group because we want to keep it very small,
00:43:22 --> 00:43:24 intimate and a safe space.
00:43:25 --> 00:43:28 So you know it's it's it's
00:43:28 --> 00:43:32 a it's something dear to my heart because after we
00:43:32 --> 00:43:35 lost two of our members in 2020 2021
00:43:35 --> 00:43:38 it kind of tugged at my soul that
00:43:38 --> 00:43:41 you know this is what's going on we need to really focus
00:43:41 --> 00:43:44 on the mental health aspect of men coming
00:43:44 --> 00:43:47 from prison women coming out of prison men coming home from
00:43:47 --> 00:43:51 from from war you know from the
00:43:51 --> 00:43:54 military and so forth all right
00:43:54 --> 00:43:57 well sounds like you have a wonderful
00:43:57 --> 00:44:03 organization and it's quite bad it is definitely something that is much needed
00:44:03 --> 00:44:09 and so forth so if you can let everybody know how would they contact you if
00:44:09 --> 00:44:16 they needed to in order to get the services that you spoke of tonight? We shouldn't. No.
00:44:18 --> 00:44:25 They can go on our website. And Leonard, who created the website. Thank you, Leonard.
00:44:25 --> 00:44:31 You're welcome. www.everymancounts.com is Everyman Counts.
00:44:32 --> 00:44:38 And there's no apostrophe in the count. So it's C-O-U-N-T-S dot org. I'm sorry, dot org.
00:44:39 --> 00:44:44 Go on there. send us a little memo because you can send your information go
00:44:44 --> 00:44:48 on our website check it out want to make a donation it is a non-profit you can
00:44:48 --> 00:44:53 make a donation on that site you can even buy your ticket for the 10th year
00:44:53 --> 00:44:55 anniversary Dave on there,
00:44:58 --> 00:45:04 and Leonard already bought his ticket so that's why he's trying he didn't tell me oh,
00:45:07 --> 00:45:12 mine was anyway mine was an in-kind donation of volunteerism.
00:45:16 --> 00:45:21 He's doing the program the booklet,
00:45:22 --> 00:45:26 And what else are you doing? The website. Oh, yeah, that's right.
00:45:26 --> 00:45:29 He did the website. Ah, okay.
00:45:29 --> 00:45:33 This is how you're doing it. That's how you're doing, yeah.
00:45:34 --> 00:45:39 He beats you to it, Dave. He beats you to it. Look, I'm going to tell you off
00:45:39 --> 00:45:41 camera the conversation I
00:45:41 --> 00:45:45 had with him about this event, but I'm not going to blow him up right now.
00:45:47 --> 00:45:52 I told you about it. I thought I was on the program. Yeah, you did tell me that, sir.
00:45:52 --> 00:45:54 Yeah okay all right just make it
00:45:54 --> 00:45:58 don't let let her don't let her talk say
00:45:58 --> 00:46:04 that because he'd be donating tax i mean he's always yeah leonard is a great
00:46:04 --> 00:46:10 guy yeah he really is he really is i am so glad because he's my boom my best
00:46:10 --> 00:46:15 friend yeah yeah i'm so glad that you have him for a friend and that I know him. Oh, yeah.
00:46:16 --> 00:46:18 I'm glad that you know him.
00:46:20 --> 00:46:25 So, I'm just going to say... You got him. What was that song? How did that song go?
00:46:26 --> 00:46:29 You got a friend in me. Oh, Lord. There you go.
00:46:31 --> 00:46:34 I believe you were telling people how to get in contact with you.
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00:47:08 --> 00:47:21 302-722-5939. website again is www.everymancounts.org O-R-G Thank you Okay, great,
00:47:21 --> 00:47:29 great Let me ask this question as far as the dress for the event Is this a formal or semi-formal event?
00:47:29 --> 00:47:34 It is a black tie event So you gotta come up there and you come about in your
00:47:34 --> 00:47:43 penguin suit No, I mean my thing is black tie You know, what is black ties?
00:47:43 --> 00:47:46 You know, just to come dressed nice. That's all.
00:47:47 --> 00:47:51 I understand. I understand. Okay, folks, there you have it.
00:47:51 --> 00:47:56 We just got finished talking to Ms.
00:47:56 --> 00:48:04 Bond in reference to Every Man Counts, our organization, and this big event that she has coming up.
00:48:05 --> 00:48:10 She's going to hang in with us. And we're actually going to start a little topic
00:48:10 --> 00:48:12 session of the show right now.
00:48:13 --> 00:48:18 And, you know, they'll be able to give our information once again after we're
00:48:18 --> 00:48:20 done towards the end of the show.
00:48:20 --> 00:48:24 But we got a couple of topics that we want to talk about and get your input on.
00:48:24 --> 00:48:29 Just get your thoughts on. We always try to include our guests in our topic.
00:48:29 --> 00:48:33 So, yeah. So we're going to go ahead into that portion of the show.
00:48:33 --> 00:48:37 And I came across the story.
00:48:38 --> 00:48:45 You know, not a story that we normally do, but I just thought it was an interesting story.
00:48:45 --> 00:48:47 So I wanted to kind of share the story.
00:48:48 --> 00:48:52 And I'm going to read a little bit of it so you guys get the backdrop of it.
00:48:53 --> 00:48:56 But it's Herlder.
00:48:57 --> 00:49:03 I've never even seen this name before. Herlder. Senhouse, the second oldest U.S.
00:49:03 --> 00:49:11 Resident, dies at age 113. Sennhouse died peacefully in her sleep on Saturday,
00:49:12 --> 00:49:18 said Stephanie Hawkinson, public information officer for the town of Wellesley,
00:49:18 --> 00:49:22 Massachusetts, where Sennhouse had lived for the last four decades.
00:49:22 --> 00:49:29 Miss henhouse at her 113th birthday celebration on february 28th.
00:49:30 --> 00:49:33 There in wellesley there was a
00:49:33 --> 00:49:36 photo that they showed and and actually she did
00:49:36 --> 00:49:39 not look 113 years old did you
00:49:39 --> 00:49:44 see that picture letter no did you pull it up okay yes she doesn't she did not
00:49:44 --> 00:49:49 look her age i'm gonna tell you that by the way but she founded a jazz dance
00:49:49 --> 00:49:54 group to raise money for black students in the 1950s and lived to become the
00:49:54 --> 00:49:57 second oldest person in the United States.
00:49:59 --> 00:50:06 Sandhouse died peacefully in her sleep on Saturday, the public information officer said.
00:50:06 --> 00:50:09 And let's see.
00:50:09 --> 00:50:14 He never missed an opportunity to learn more, do more, experience more,
00:50:14 --> 00:50:23 said Hawkinson, who met Sandhouse on her 108th birthday and had celebrated with her every year since.
00:50:23 --> 00:50:28 So she met her at 108 and been hanging out with her ever since.
00:50:29 --> 00:50:34 Born February 28, 1911, in Piedmont.
00:50:35 --> 00:50:40 West Virginia, Sennhouse was sent to live with an aunt in Wilburn,
00:50:40 --> 00:50:47 Massachusetts at age 16 and graduated from Wilburn High School,
00:50:47 --> 00:50:49 according to the Boston Globe.
00:50:49 --> 00:50:55 He dreamed of becoming a nurse, but was turned away by a nursing school after
00:50:55 --> 00:51:02 it had met his quota of two black students in 1931.
00:51:02 --> 00:51:04 And this is 1931.
00:51:04 --> 00:51:09 Did you say two? Two was the quota? Two was the quota, yes.
00:51:10 --> 00:51:16 He worked as a housekeeper for several families and founded the Boston Click Club. I like that.
00:51:16 --> 00:51:23 The Boston Click Club, which raised money to improve educational opportunities
00:51:23 --> 00:51:24 for black students in Boston.
00:51:25 --> 00:51:28 See, this lady was doing stuff that you're doing now.
00:51:28 --> 00:51:31 You know what I mean? you know back in
00:51:31 --> 00:51:35 the day you know listen to this at age 105
00:51:35 --> 00:51:43 she enrolled in the new england centurion study which seeks to determine how
00:51:43 --> 00:51:50 people like her age so slowly while delaying or escaping aging related disease
00:51:50 --> 00:51:54 she also bequeathed her brain to researchers.
00:51:56 --> 00:52:02 According to Yeah, this is crazy. According to the Geronatology,
00:52:03 --> 00:52:08 research group. The oldest person in the United States is Naomi Whitehead.
00:52:09 --> 00:52:13 She's 114 and lives in Greenville, PA.
00:52:14 --> 00:52:23 Hawkinson says Sennhouse often said the secret to her longevity was never having children through.
00:52:25 --> 00:52:31 You told us that a long time ago. Hey Dave, she said you're not wasting this body.
00:52:34 --> 00:52:41 This body this body is out here for other reasons not for that though she enjoyed children.
00:52:42 --> 00:52:48 And caring for them she just never had any of her own she surrounded herself
00:52:48 --> 00:52:52 with a community of relatives friends and members of her church and always up
00:52:52 --> 00:52:58 for an adventure Hawkinson said she was truly an inspiration to so many in our community,
00:52:59 --> 00:53:02 what a story there I mean,
00:53:02 --> 00:53:09 can you imagine living to be 113 years old and doing so much after 100?
00:53:10 --> 00:53:17 She did a lot after 100. Yeah, now she did. She did. So when I saw the story,
00:53:17 --> 00:53:18 I thought it was interesting.
00:53:19 --> 00:53:25 And this is a Black woman because we always hear stories about older whites
00:53:25 --> 00:53:27 and some other ethnicities.
00:53:27 --> 00:53:31 But this is a black woman who really
00:53:31 --> 00:53:34 made an impact in her lifetime with
00:53:34 --> 00:53:38 the various things that she that she did she definitely
00:53:38 --> 00:53:42 was a pioneer she definitely made people
00:53:42 --> 00:53:45 notice take notice of who she who she
00:53:45 --> 00:53:48 was and who she became what do
00:53:48 --> 00:53:51 you guys think about what i what i just read to you
00:53:51 --> 00:53:54 guys yeah i mean i you know i i think
00:53:54 --> 00:54:00 it's awesome it almost seems surreal because usually we hear people lucky if
00:54:00 --> 00:54:06 they get to 100 and you know what she surpassed that by 13 years 13 years yeah
00:54:06 --> 00:54:11 and and was the second oldest you know that's what's so crazy so there's still a.
00:54:16 --> 00:54:19 Yeah so and that actually then
00:54:19 --> 00:54:23 that's good that she was actually recorded to be
00:54:23 --> 00:54:25 the second oldest because you know you know
00:54:25 --> 00:54:29 we don't always get counted in the stats you know
00:54:29 --> 00:54:32 what i mean no we don't yeah we get only in
00:54:32 --> 00:54:35 the negative stats you know you know murder and
00:54:35 --> 00:54:39 all that kind of craziness we get we get put in those stats but
00:54:39 --> 00:54:41 we don't get in you know we don't always get counted in these.
00:54:41 --> 00:54:44 Type of positive stats so right so that's a
00:54:44 --> 00:54:47 big thing and so when i saw when i was doing my little
00:54:47 --> 00:54:50 research for topics to talk about today and
00:54:50 --> 00:54:53 i was like wow that's an interesting story right
00:54:53 --> 00:54:56 there and and to never have any kids
00:54:56 --> 00:54:59 and to own up to it and said hey look that wasn't my
00:54:59 --> 00:55:02 calling yeah yeah you know and
00:55:02 --> 00:55:05 respect that yeah and maybe that's why
00:55:05 --> 00:55:09 and and i'm sure that's probably why of
00:55:09 --> 00:55:11 course there's mine yeah yeah because she
00:55:11 --> 00:55:15 didn't put she didn't put that extra stress on her body and she
00:55:15 --> 00:55:18 didn't put that extra stress on her mind i was
00:55:18 --> 00:55:24 gonna say the mind not so much the body the body
00:55:24 --> 00:55:27 the body gets a workout for having children
00:55:27 --> 00:55:32 you know so now you don't know nothing about that because you you know you're
00:55:32 --> 00:55:35 too young to have children you were too young to have children you know i know
00:55:35 --> 00:55:39 that's right but the thing is if that's the case then men will live longer because
00:55:39 --> 00:55:47 men don't have babies yeah children will drive you crazy that's true.
00:55:49 --> 00:55:52 Especially today it's a whole different world these children today
00:55:52 --> 00:55:56 are different man they really are you know but i
00:55:56 --> 00:56:03 just wanted to give her her her kudos and uh you know just let let her know
00:56:03 --> 00:56:10 that her story definitely didn't go unnoticed and the life that she lived and
00:56:10 --> 00:56:13 I just wanted to bring that to the forefront.
00:56:14 --> 00:56:18 I thought it was a great story and kudos to the life that she lived.
00:56:18 --> 00:56:26 Yes, absolutely. It's an inspiration. So many of us will live longer and I can
00:56:26 --> 00:56:29 guarantee you even though she didn't have any kids, she was still exercising
00:56:29 --> 00:56:31 and making sure she ate right.
00:56:32 --> 00:56:37 You know yeah i'm sure i'm sure look she you know they didn't talk about her
00:56:37 --> 00:56:42 diet but you know i'm sure she she probably had some little secrets on what
00:56:42 --> 00:56:44 she was eating and drinking i mean,
00:56:44 --> 00:56:48 you know what when she was putting in her body i'm gonna put it that way so
00:56:48 --> 00:56:53 you know so most people do when they live those kind of ages but,
00:56:54 --> 00:56:58 Thank you, Ms. Tenhouse, for living the life that you did. Absolutely.
00:56:58 --> 00:57:01 Okay. Kudos to her. A legacy for us.
00:57:02 --> 00:57:06 Yeah, that's right. Yeah, anything, you know, like Kevin Garnett said back in
00:57:06 --> 00:57:08 the day, anything possible?
00:57:09 --> 00:57:11 You know, so, you know, so there you go.
00:57:13 --> 00:57:17 All right, Leonard, what we got next? Yeah, so the next one,
00:57:17 --> 00:57:18 I thought this was an interesting story.
00:57:19 --> 00:57:22 I'm sure Dave's heard of it. Ozzy, you may or may not have heard it.
00:57:22 --> 00:57:27 Yeah, I told it the other day. So recently, during the NFL pregame show,
00:57:28 --> 00:57:32 which they hosted at a military base, it was the Naval Base San Diego,
00:57:32 --> 00:57:35 of course, to honor men and women who served in the U.S.
00:57:35 --> 00:57:42 Armed Forces during the Star Spangled Banner performance, Michael Strahan,
00:57:42 --> 00:57:44 who was one of the commentators.
00:57:44 --> 00:57:47 So basically, the camera was showing the four commentators.
00:57:48 --> 00:57:52 They just happen to all be white or happen or not happen to be white.
00:57:53 --> 00:57:59 And Michael Strahan, who was a black man, you know, former New York giant football
00:57:59 --> 00:58:03 legend, host of Good Morning America or the Today Show. One of them, I forget which one.
00:58:04 --> 00:58:08 But while they're playing the Star Spangled Banner, all the other three,
00:58:09 --> 00:58:15 the three other men all had their hand over their heart on the Star Spangled Banner.
00:58:16 --> 00:58:23 Michael Strahan had his hands kind of like in front of him, you know,
00:58:23 --> 00:58:26 kind of at his waist, but in front of him, you know, and are folded.
00:58:28 --> 00:58:31 And there are certain Americans, I'm not sure which Americans,
00:58:31 --> 00:58:36 because I haven't heard anybody that I know complaining, are now trying to say
00:58:36 --> 00:58:40 that he is unpatriotic because he did not have his hand over his heart,
00:58:40 --> 00:58:42 that he does not love the military,
00:58:43 --> 00:58:45 you know, a whole bunch of stuff.
00:58:45 --> 00:58:53 And they're actually trying to petition for the NFL to release him from his
00:58:53 --> 00:59:00 $65 billion a year contract to host the pregame show.
00:59:01 --> 00:59:06 Now, recently, right after that, Michael Strahan did do a Instagram live or
00:59:06 --> 00:59:08 social media live video.
00:59:08 --> 00:59:12 And basically, he said he's not sure how people could feel that way.
00:59:12 --> 00:59:15 His five they say he grew up on a military base
00:59:15 --> 00:59:18 his father was a general and a proud member
00:59:18 --> 00:59:21 of the 82nd airborne division he is
00:59:21 --> 00:59:25 his he has brothers in the military cousins uncles
00:59:25 --> 00:59:28 aunts in the military he loves the military so you
00:59:28 --> 00:59:32 know he he didn't really straight out apologize
00:59:32 --> 00:59:34 but or at least i heard but he did say you know
00:59:34 --> 00:59:37 he did not mean any disrespect he loves military he loves
00:59:37 --> 00:59:40 the veterans all that but you know i just think it's crazy
00:59:40 --> 00:59:43 how people are so adamant about you know
00:59:43 --> 00:59:46 him not having his hand over his heart or you
00:59:46 --> 00:59:49 know do you think there were other reasons that they
00:59:49 --> 00:59:53 wanted him off the show what you think dave i definitely
00:59:53 --> 00:59:56 know you you got an opinion on this one well i
00:59:56 --> 00:59:59 saw i saw i saw it and i was like
00:59:59 --> 01:00:02 he just did what a lot of people
01:00:02 --> 01:00:05 do nowadays you know people people are
01:00:05 --> 01:00:08 pretty angry and upset right
01:00:08 --> 01:00:11 now about you know the world affairs
01:00:11 --> 01:00:18 and especially here in the united states and a lot of people just do not feel
01:00:18 --> 01:00:23 when that song is being played and of course you know you got the flag waving
01:00:23 --> 01:00:30 and so forth a lot of people just don't feel that the country is very patriotic anymore.
01:00:30 --> 01:00:34 You know, and there's a lot of feelings that go into that.
01:00:34 --> 01:00:38 And so instead of saluting the flag, like we were always taught,
01:00:38 --> 01:00:43 especially people that were born here in the United States, from the moment that we went to school.
01:00:44 --> 01:00:49 It was, you know, you, you know, I pledge allegiance to the flag. I'm a union guy.
01:00:51 --> 01:00:58 Every big union meeting, we start with is a pledge of license to the flag of
01:00:58 --> 01:01:00 the United States. You know, so.
01:01:02 --> 01:01:06 I know a lot of people who are former military and so forth and,
01:01:07 --> 01:01:11 or that will not salute the flag because they don't like the way they were treated,
01:01:11 --> 01:01:15 you know, especially when they came back here, you know?
01:01:15 --> 01:01:20 So instead of putting their hand over their heart and proudly saying what the
01:01:20 --> 01:01:24 pledge of allegiance says, or listening to the star spangled banner,
01:01:24 --> 01:01:28 some people would prefer to have their hands at their side or,
01:01:28 --> 01:01:31 and he didn't have, you know, he didn't have a.
01:01:32 --> 01:01:36 His demeanor wasn't that yeah
01:01:36 --> 01:01:39 no he wasn't you know he he just
01:01:39 --> 01:01:42 had his hands folded at his waist you know
01:01:42 --> 01:01:45 like some people you know like some of
01:01:45 --> 01:01:48 us might stand with our hands in front of us or might have our
01:01:48 --> 01:01:51 hands locked in back of us it's not saying that we're
01:01:51 --> 01:01:53 not listening or that we don't care it's just
01:01:53 --> 01:01:57 that he chose to do it the way he did it what made
01:01:57 --> 01:02:04 him stand out was there was a bunch of white folk up there with him that made
01:02:04 --> 01:02:11 him stand out right who had their hands on their heart on their chest you know
01:02:11 --> 01:02:15 doing what you know we all have done at one point or another,
01:02:15 --> 01:02:18 but he just wasn't doing it i don't think
01:02:18 --> 01:02:22 he was being defiant i don't think he was trying to make a point even if he
01:02:22 --> 01:02:28 was he was he was doing that in a quiet post if it was a protest he was doing
01:02:28 --> 01:02:33 it in a quiet protest he wasn't trying to make bring attention to himself but
01:02:33 --> 01:02:37 it was you know we're in the climate that we're in right now,
01:02:38 --> 01:02:43 because things are changing again if you feel.
01:02:43 --> 01:02:49 And without going too deep into it you know what I'm saying yep I'm sorry Dave,
01:02:50 --> 01:02:56 go ahead I'm done okay I just had you heard about this incident or seen it prior Fire.
01:02:57 --> 01:03:01 I was reading it. I pulled it up on the internet just now.
01:03:03 --> 01:03:09 They're making a big thing out of nothing. When I pledged, I never put my hand over my heart.
01:03:10 --> 01:03:14 This is from growing up in Texas. Michael Strahan went to school with me.
01:03:15 --> 01:03:19 In Texas, we do not put up school. He went to high school with me.
01:03:20 --> 01:03:22 Was he there while you were there?
01:03:22 --> 01:03:25 Yeah, we were seniors together. He said he went to school.
01:03:27 --> 01:03:33 Went to Westbury High School he doesn't understand what that means the only
01:03:33 --> 01:03:41 reason I say it sometimes we say stuff I could say Dave went to high school with me but anyway,
01:03:43 --> 01:03:48 so y'all were both seniors we were both seniors he didn't graduate yeah I remember
01:03:48 --> 01:03:50 him because I was dating the quarterback,
01:03:52 --> 01:04:00 and they used to make fun of him we ain't asked all that let's go back that
01:04:00 --> 01:04:03 was his friend that was his friend.
01:04:06 --> 01:04:13 Where is he now where is this quarterback you speak he died he died I'm sorry
01:04:13 --> 01:04:18 sorry to hear that okay nothing anyway go ahead.
01:04:22 --> 01:04:28 But yeah so So he, I mean, him not putting his hands on his heart and acknowledging,
01:04:29 --> 01:04:31 it's not like he walked away, he turned his back to the flag.
01:04:32 --> 01:04:33 Now, that's a disrespect.
01:04:34 --> 01:04:38 Or kneeled by Callan Coppin. Yeah, like other people have done it.
01:04:38 --> 01:04:42 I wouldn't call that a disrespect either.
01:04:42 --> 01:04:45 The only time I'll say a disrespect when they turn that back to the flag.
01:04:46 --> 01:04:51 Now, that's not acknowledging it at all. But how you, or what?
01:04:51 --> 01:04:57 Or I was just going to say and it's usually not us it's usually some other people
01:04:57 --> 01:04:58 but when they burn the flag.
01:04:59 --> 01:05:03 Yeah, that's disrespectful. You don't burn the flag. You don't turn your back
01:05:03 --> 01:05:05 on the flag when they're doing the Pledge of Allegiance.
01:05:05 --> 01:05:08 But if you don't want to put your hand on your heart, you don't have to.
01:05:09 --> 01:05:11 And nobody should be penalized for that.
01:05:12 --> 01:05:16 So, you know, and he's going through a lot. Personally, you know,
01:05:16 --> 01:05:18 family-wise, his daughter has cancer.
01:05:18 --> 01:05:22 You know, he's dealing with a lot. So for them to go after him because he didn't
01:05:22 --> 01:05:24 put his hand on his heart, please.
01:05:24 --> 01:05:29 That's better. The thing is, they're trying to make excuses for what happened in the election.
01:05:30 --> 01:05:37 They're trying to make excuses, trying to deviate or divert your attention. And what else?
01:05:37 --> 01:05:42 And Michael Strahan don't have to be on that news commentator to be a sports
01:05:42 --> 01:05:45 commentator. He's doing well on Good Morning America.
01:05:45 --> 01:05:48 He's doing well there. He's in the Hall of Fame.
01:05:49 --> 01:05:51 People in Texas love him. Even though he didn't graduate from Westbury,
01:05:51 --> 01:05:54 went to Yates High School and graduated from there, which we hated.
01:05:55 --> 01:05:59 But, you know, it is what it is. You know, he went to TSU, my mother's alma
01:05:59 --> 01:06:02 mater. Yeah, I'm plugging everything in, right?
01:06:03 --> 01:06:06 I know you are. Go ahead and say Delta and everything.
01:06:07 --> 01:06:13 And TSU is an old HBCU. You know, I went to Purview A&M University where I played
01:06:13 --> 01:06:17 in 1989, so let me stop. Okay. As a dumpster. Anyway.
01:06:20 --> 01:06:24 Don't even try, Leonard. Don't even try. Yeah, don't get him started.
01:06:26 --> 01:06:31 I know he's going to say, damn, 89, he's old. He does it to me all the time.
01:06:31 --> 01:06:32 He does it to me all the time.
01:06:34 --> 01:06:39 Remember, Leonard, we met when we're both in our 30s. There you go.
01:06:39 --> 01:06:42 There you go. Well.
01:06:45 --> 01:06:49 What's your thoughts on it, Leonard? What did you think? I thought the same
01:06:49 --> 01:06:51 thing. I thought they were making a mountain out of molehill.
01:06:51 --> 01:06:55 And Dave, I'll say, and maybe it's my silent protest,
01:06:56 --> 01:06:59 You know, when I hear the national anthem or star-spangled banner,
01:07:00 --> 01:07:03 I definitely don't like, you know, it don't even cross my mind,
01:07:03 --> 01:07:04 but my hand over my chest.
01:07:04 --> 01:07:08 Like, you know, I just hold my hands at my side or usually I have my cell phone
01:07:08 --> 01:07:09 in one hand and the other hand free.
01:07:10 --> 01:07:14 But, you know, two weeks ago, and it's funny that this came out,
01:07:14 --> 01:07:18 I still remember, of course, you know, Dave, all the high school football.
01:07:18 --> 01:07:21 Well, actually, I don't know about the high school football games because I
01:07:21 --> 01:07:26 usually I usually pull an Aja and I usually get there about 15 minutes after it starts.
01:07:26 --> 01:07:30 I don't know what they do at the beginning, but I know for the swim meets at
01:07:30 --> 01:07:34 the beginning of every swim meet, they sing. Did you hear that?
01:07:38 --> 01:07:42 I heard him being like, I didn't comment.
01:07:44 --> 01:07:47 But well long story short at the swim meets at
01:07:47 --> 01:07:50 the beginning of every swim meet they do the national anthem two weeks
01:07:50 --> 01:07:55 ago i was at one of the larger swim meets you know larger weekend swim meets
01:07:55 --> 01:07:59 and i looked around and there are a lot of people who are not putting their
01:07:59 --> 01:08:02 hand over their heart there are a lot of people not even taking their caps off
01:08:02 --> 01:08:06 their head this was indoors of course absolutely so i mean i agree with both
01:08:06 --> 01:08:10 of you i think people just do what they do you know So I think, yeah, I mean,
01:08:10 --> 01:08:12 some people may have some type of silent protest like myself,
01:08:12 --> 01:08:16 but most people, you know, they just stand up and whatever.
01:08:16 --> 01:08:19 It's almost like being in church, like wherever the spirit leads you,
01:08:19 --> 01:08:20 like that's what they do.
01:08:22 --> 01:08:27 So I don't think even talk about I don't think that should be relevant.
01:08:27 --> 01:08:29 What do you put your hand on your heart for the national anthem?
01:08:29 --> 01:08:36 To be honest with you, I think you should go away with the national anthem because
01:08:36 --> 01:08:40 the national anthem doesn't even reflect what's going on in the United States today.
01:08:41 --> 01:08:46 That Star Spangled Banner was written. And racist. What is it?
01:08:46 --> 01:08:49 Scott. Yes. Scott. Was it? Francis Scott Key.
01:08:49 --> 01:08:54 Francis Scott Key. Yeah, Francis Scott Key wrote that.
01:08:54 --> 01:08:58 And it was a black man, to be honest with you.
01:08:59 --> 01:09:03 That helped him write it. Yes, it was a black dude.
01:09:03 --> 01:09:10 A slave wrote, really wrote it and they were on the, it was a battle and the
01:09:10 --> 01:09:12 slave was the one that wrote that,
01:09:12 --> 01:09:17 you know, but it wasn't known that slaves should be educated and could read
01:09:17 --> 01:09:20 or learn it, man, as they called it back then. Learn it.
01:09:20 --> 01:09:22 So he took credit for it. Yeah, learned it, man.
01:09:23 --> 01:09:27 He took credit for it, but you got to understand when you really listen to the
01:09:27 --> 01:09:32 words, it doesn't reflect what's going on now. I think it needs to be rewritten.
01:09:32 --> 01:09:38 We need to have a whole new hip-hop let, let, let Nicki Minaj write,
01:09:40 --> 01:09:42 and see how it's going.
01:09:44 --> 01:09:53 Gorilla somebody, huh? We really need to look at a lot of things because times are evolving.
01:09:54 --> 01:09:56 I mean, we just reelected,
01:09:56 --> 01:10:01 Or narcissists. I knew we wasn't going to get back. Egotistical.
01:10:04 --> 01:10:11 A bully. And we tell our kids not to be bullies. A felon. You know.
01:10:12 --> 01:10:17 Twice. To run this country. And the first four years we didn't learn.
01:10:17 --> 01:10:18 We're going to learn now.
01:10:19 --> 01:10:22 What did he say? You're going to learn today. We're going to learn.
01:10:22 --> 01:10:26 And those who were like. Oh I can't see a woman running. it's
01:10:26 --> 01:10:30 sad but such a great country
01:10:30 --> 01:10:34 quote-unquote and i say quote-unquote because people
01:10:34 --> 01:10:37 are not looking at only americans are looking at america as a
01:10:37 --> 01:10:41 great country now since since covid because other
01:10:41 --> 01:10:46 countries have surpassed surpassed what
01:10:46 --> 01:10:48 america was yeah how many
01:10:48 --> 01:10:52 years wait hold on how many years did Margaret Thatcher
01:10:52 --> 01:10:55 rule and how many years was the prime minister
01:10:55 --> 01:10:58 how many years Queen Elizabeth I
01:10:58 --> 01:11:02 mean you know I mean they you know
01:11:02 --> 01:11:06 they were in charge for years years and
01:11:06 --> 01:11:12 we talk about we talk about misogyny and we talk about you know egotistical
01:11:12 --> 01:11:16 we talk about all this stuff when it comes to the continent of Africa that women
01:11:16 --> 01:11:22 would never rule but like Liberia hell had its first woman president put a.
01:11:23 --> 01:11:28 But what, six, 12 years. And she brought the country out of war.
01:11:29 --> 01:11:30 And she put us back on the map.
01:11:31 --> 01:11:37 And after that, other countries on the continent had had women prime ministers and women presidents.
01:11:38 --> 01:11:42 But America, which is supposed to be the greatest country ever.
01:11:43 --> 01:11:45 Can't even elect a woman.
01:11:46 --> 01:11:51 Whether it's a black woman or a white woman. will not elect a woman because
01:11:51 --> 01:11:54 they feel that women do not know how to rule.
01:11:55 --> 01:12:00 But yet and still, you're in a household where women are the ones that are paying
01:12:00 --> 01:12:04 the bills, taking care of the kids, running the markets.
01:12:04 --> 01:12:10 You know, this whole idea of men being in leadership is just a Western thing.
01:12:10 --> 01:12:15 Because if you really look at the world, it were the women who were the warriors.
01:12:15 --> 01:12:19 It was the women that went to combat. It wasn't men.
01:12:19 --> 01:12:26 From the time beyond when the world was created, it was women that were the
01:12:26 --> 01:12:29 warriors, the planters, the agriculturalists, the scientists,
01:12:30 --> 01:12:34 the mathematicians, the educators. It was the women.
01:12:34 --> 01:12:37 And then society started changing.
01:12:38 --> 01:12:42 Men started finding their rightful place in the world, saying, well, you know what?
01:12:42 --> 01:12:46 We're going to rewrite it then king james come and rewrite the bible and he
01:12:46 --> 01:12:49 makes it this way he makes it that way and this is how it's supposed to be and
01:12:49 --> 01:12:55 this was and now men are the leaders oh then they equate jesus with the head
01:12:55 --> 01:12:57 of the church and then he men should
01:12:57 --> 01:13:01 follow men should be the head of the household where did that come from.
01:13:02 --> 01:13:09 You know, so we got to look at things, how it evolved to make men be superior to women.
01:13:09 --> 01:13:16 And don't get me wrong. I respect my man. I think he is superior in certain aspects.
01:13:16 --> 01:13:21 But one thing I like about him, he does not put me down. He likes me to rise above.
01:13:22 --> 01:13:30 And men in general don't, and it speaks much volume about America and how men look at women.
01:13:31 --> 01:13:36 You know, you see that men want to be in charge. They want to diminish a woman's position.
01:13:36 --> 01:13:41 They want to, you know, build their, lower their self-esteem. It's ridiculous.
01:13:42 --> 01:13:50 We had a great person that was running. I didn't care whether she was purple, orange, blue, green.
01:13:50 --> 01:13:56 I didn't care whether she was Democrat or Republican. I only cared for what she stood for.
01:13:57 --> 01:14:01 Whether she was a republican running on the same ideas and values i would have
01:14:01 --> 01:14:07 voted for her because it wasn't about party it was about principle that was
01:14:07 --> 01:14:13 you know so funny you you were talking and you made very valid points and everything
01:14:13 --> 01:14:15 was right on point which you just said,
01:14:16 --> 01:14:21 i have to admit the whole time you were talking just every voice was in my head,
01:14:22 --> 01:14:25 playing at the same time you were talking really?
01:14:25 --> 01:14:31 It was right on point you were right on point with the music and everything
01:14:31 --> 01:14:34 I was like why can't I get this song out of my ear while she's talking.
01:14:36 --> 01:14:42 But yeah that was definitely on point and definitely valid I just think that
01:14:42 --> 01:14:50 we need to wake up we just really need to wake up alright moving on to our last story.
01:14:52 --> 01:15:00 Olympian Mofar chased down thieves in a van on foot to retrieve his phone.
01:15:01 --> 01:15:07 Are you, no, Leonard, no Mofar. Do you know who Mofar is? He's a distance runner, right?
01:15:07 --> 01:15:09 Is it Kenya? Yeah.
01:15:11 --> 01:15:14 He was in a marathon, right?
01:15:15 --> 01:15:18 Right. Yeah. He was an Olympic runner. Yeah. He's, he's very well known.
01:15:19 --> 01:15:25 I've watched him run many times. Steve is definitely, he's a four-time Olympic track star.
01:15:26 --> 01:15:30 You know, he ran in four different Olympics, and he's won quite a few medals.
01:15:30 --> 01:15:35 But listen to the story. He said, four-time Olympic track star Mo Farah,
01:15:35 --> 01:15:40 one of Britain's most decorated track athletes, ran full throttle to catch up
01:15:40 --> 01:15:42 with Roberts, who swiped his phone.
01:15:42 --> 01:15:46 Sir Mo Farah, yeah, this is crazy. You know, we're going to run for our phones.
01:15:46 --> 01:15:52 You know, we're going to try to get our phones back. So Mofar attends the Sports
01:15:52 --> 01:15:58 Gives Back Awards in 2024 at the Cadegan Hall in February 2028.
01:15:59 --> 01:16:05 There's a picture of him showing that. When a pair of thieves in the UK happened
01:16:05 --> 01:16:12 upon what they thought was an unattended cell phone, all they had to do was pick it up and go.
01:16:14 --> 01:16:19 However, there was just one problem. The phone belonged to Mofar,
01:16:20 --> 01:16:22 one of Britain's most decorated track athletes.
01:16:22 --> 01:16:30 The 41-year-old four-time Olympic gold medalist was out for a run with his wife, Tania Nell,
01:16:30 --> 01:16:33 last week when he left his phone
01:16:33 --> 01:16:39 on the side of a private road leading to their home in Sarai, England.
01:16:39 --> 01:16:44 As the couple left for the run, Farr witnessed a white van approach carrying
01:16:44 --> 01:16:50 two men who hopped out and swiped his phone, according to the Times.
01:16:50 --> 01:16:57 After the men got back in the van, Farr chased him down at full throttle, according to a witness.
01:16:57 --> 01:17:02 He reportedly caught up with the van easily, and when he did,
01:17:02 --> 01:17:06 the thieves returned his phone without further incident, according to the Times.
01:17:06 --> 01:17:11 A formal investigation into the incident is underway.
01:17:13 --> 01:17:21 You know, it said Farah, listen to this, this is also not the first time Farah
01:17:21 --> 01:17:22 has had a run-in with thieves.
01:17:23 --> 01:17:29 In 2019, he claimed his hotel room, Yaya Africa Athletics Village,
01:17:29 --> 01:17:33 was broken into on his 36th birthday.
01:17:33 --> 01:17:40 In the incident, he alleged a locked case had been opened and two phones were stolen and,
01:17:40 --> 01:17:46 What is this for phone? Wow. This phone was stolen along with a watch that had
01:17:46 --> 01:17:49 been a gift from his wife and his cats.
01:17:49 --> 01:17:55 Someone in the reception had given my key to someone, and someone is going in,
01:17:55 --> 01:17:57 open my room, and open my suitcase.
01:17:57 --> 01:18:03 It was locked on a close, and someone taking two phones, taking my money,
01:18:03 --> 01:18:05 taking my watch that my wife got for me.
01:18:06 --> 01:18:11 He said that you can't buy. It was a special watch.
01:18:11 --> 01:18:16 He further claimed the hotel group owned by fellow former Olympian runner,
01:18:16 --> 01:18:24 Haley Gavrilesi, in Ethiopia, and I know who that is, too, because he was a
01:18:24 --> 01:18:28 very famous runner himself, never took responsibility for the incident.
01:18:29 --> 01:18:34 His hotel group issued a statement at the time, disputing the claims and accusing
01:18:34 --> 01:18:38 Farah of skipping out on a $3 bill.
01:18:38 --> 01:18:40 That's what he said.
01:18:42 --> 01:18:45 So you know first of all you know
01:18:45 --> 01:18:50 I'm really interested it's really interesting that this guy has this problem
01:18:50 --> 01:18:55 for phones but I guess he ain't gonna let no phone get away from him so first
01:18:55 --> 01:19:00 you apparently must have got away from him but for him to chase down that van
01:19:00 --> 01:19:03 he wasn't playing you know.
01:19:05 --> 01:19:09 He was getting his phone back Like, I guess those guys must have said to themselves
01:19:09 --> 01:19:12 when he ran up alongside of the van, it was like,
01:19:13 --> 01:19:17 well, damn, this guy ain't giving up, you know? So, you know, yeah.
01:19:18 --> 01:19:22 So, you know, they might have recognized him, too, you know,
01:19:22 --> 01:19:24 because, you know, the guy is pretty famous.
01:19:25 --> 01:19:30 Yeah, he is pretty famous. So, but would you run after somebody if they stole your phone?
01:19:30 --> 01:19:33 Hell yeah. Oh, no.
01:19:33 --> 01:19:37 Yes, I would. You're not going after him? Heck no. Thank you.
01:19:38 --> 01:19:44 Wait, first of all, I don't have a bill on my phone. My phone is paid off. I just pay for service.
01:19:45 --> 01:19:51 So if you take it, you take it. I can go buy another phone, Leonard.
01:19:51 --> 01:19:58 Okay, so you would give up your phone that easy. You got your passwords.
01:19:59 --> 01:20:02 It's probably tied to your bank account. You probably have pictures.
01:20:02 --> 01:20:04 I can't even remember my passwords.
01:20:04 --> 01:20:08 So all my stuff is floating in the cloud. Okay, well, here, Aja,
01:20:09 --> 01:20:12 if someone steals your purse, are you running after them?
01:20:12 --> 01:20:14 Are you just going, okay, I'll just get another purse.
01:20:14 --> 01:20:18 I'll get this and get this. They're going to keep it because I don't carry purses.
01:20:20 --> 01:20:25 My thing is, no, the moral is, no, nothing is worth endangering my life.
01:20:26 --> 01:20:29 A bag, a phone, no. They can have it.
01:20:30 --> 01:20:36 They can have it. Okay, so if you're in an event and you have to have your purse
01:20:36 --> 01:20:43 down, And you see a young 14-year-old girl pick up your purse and start walking towards the door.
01:20:44 --> 01:20:47 I'll snatch her and smack the shit out of her, but that's another story.
01:20:48 --> 01:20:53 She runs. I'm not chasing her. She runs. I'm not chasing her.
01:20:54 --> 01:21:01 I know when your event comes up, I'm going to let you go.
01:21:02 --> 01:21:07 Hey, Aja, man, somebody stole my wallet. I tried to chase after him. My ticket was in there.
01:21:08 --> 01:21:10 I couldn't say you ain't coming in here.
01:21:14 --> 01:21:18 If your name is on the list sure if your name ain't on the list you better go chase.
01:21:19 --> 01:21:25 So in that case I better be more far in that case you better put some runny
01:21:25 --> 01:21:29 shoes on that night you gonna go running after them people,
01:21:30 --> 01:21:35 I mean I don't think you know I remember going to New York years ago many many
01:21:35 --> 01:21:37 many many years ago my daughter was a baby,
01:21:38 --> 01:21:42 And I used to, you know, back in the day, we had these big bamboo earrings,
01:21:42 --> 01:21:45 even though they looked heavy, but they were very, very light.
01:21:46 --> 01:21:49 And they could just snatch it right out of your ear back in the day.
01:21:49 --> 01:21:51 This was like, you know, early 90s.
01:21:52 --> 01:21:55 My daughter was born in 92, and I used to be in New York like every other weekend.
01:21:56 --> 01:22:01 And someone stashed my earring out of my ear. One of it. They couldn't get the second one.
01:22:01 --> 01:22:06 And I wasn't going to chase them for some earrings. No, take it.
01:22:07 --> 01:22:11 I can always get another one. And it was gold. There were 14-carat gold earrings.
01:22:11 --> 01:22:15 And back then, that's when, you know, LL Cool J talked about a bamboo earring, two-pair at least.
01:22:15 --> 01:22:20 Yeah, yeah. I had one pair, and I kept that mess in my ear until I got back to Rhode Island.
01:22:21 --> 01:22:25 Yeah, but I mean, it's like, it's not worth it. Your life is more important
01:22:25 --> 01:22:26 than chasing down a fuck.
01:22:26 --> 01:22:30 He must really like to run chasing that van.
01:22:30 --> 01:22:34 So that means the van was not going five miles an hour. You know that, right?
01:22:34 --> 01:22:38 Yeah. Oh, no, it wasn't going five miles an hour. He ran that van down. I'm sure it was going.
01:22:38 --> 01:22:43 Look, when they saw him probably coming after them, he probably sped up.
01:22:43 --> 01:22:47 Yeah, they probably sped up. But, you know, he was already on him. Yeah.
01:22:47 --> 01:22:50 And Dave, you forgot to read the last part of the story.
01:22:51 --> 01:22:57 He ran after him for about 14 miles. Can you imagine that? Oh,
01:22:57 --> 01:22:59 yeah, that's right. I didn't read that part. Yeah.
01:23:00 --> 01:23:04 14 miles? No, no, no. I'm just joking. But I'm just saying he's a marathon runner.
01:23:04 --> 01:23:08 He's a long distance runner. He's a long distance runner. So he wasn't going
01:23:08 --> 01:23:09 to give up. That's what Leonard's trying to say.
01:23:10 --> 01:23:13 He wasn't going to give up. He was going forever. However, how long that van
01:23:13 --> 01:23:17 was going, you know, he was going to be like Will Smith and bad boys when he
01:23:17 --> 01:23:23 chased after that car and bad boys, you know, you know, you go around the corner. I'll be like, OK.
01:23:24 --> 01:23:26 All right. You got this.
01:23:26 --> 01:23:30 All right. No, funny, too, too funny.
01:23:30 --> 01:23:37 Well, I tell you. But anyway, well, no, I hope I hope everything's good with your service, too.
01:23:37 --> 01:23:41 And you know so hope you ain't got to go to running to get that get that to
01:23:41 --> 01:23:48 work well for you over there in britain so but congratulations on getting that phone back so all right.
01:23:50 --> 01:23:54 That phone must have had some pictures on there that he didn't want nobody to
01:23:54 --> 01:23:58 see well that's why he gotta get he gotta get the encrypted codes and put on
01:23:58 --> 01:24:01 your it'd be like my man the doctor in guinea,
01:24:03 --> 01:24:08 oh yeah all them videos I don't understand I haven't even seen the videos but
01:24:08 --> 01:24:14 they're making dances look listen TikTok is hilarious let me tell you something
01:24:14 --> 01:24:16 these people who create TikTok the internet is undefeated,
01:24:17 --> 01:24:20 they are undefeated There's so many things on there about him.
01:24:21 --> 01:24:25 People in places that don't even have food to eat and knowing electricity got
01:24:25 --> 01:24:26 TikTok and got the internet.
01:24:27 --> 01:24:30 And they're doing the dance and they're pinching their boobs and they're dancing.
01:24:30 --> 01:24:33 I'm like, what the heck is the New Guinea dance now?
01:24:33 --> 01:24:38 Oh, wow. I'm like, what is going on? So I went and started looking at this man. I'm like, OMG.
01:24:39 --> 01:24:41 It took down all the videos, though.
01:24:42 --> 01:24:45 Well, I mean, well, Leonard had to do research on it.
01:24:45 --> 01:24:53 I did my research and recorded the story so isn't that crazy yeah and what about
01:24:53 --> 01:24:59 the woman what about the woman that killed herself because all of that stuff came out yeah yeah,
01:25:00 --> 01:25:04 and she was all up in the camera someone that killed himself yeah really
01:25:04 --> 01:25:09 yeah one of the ladies because the video came out and I guess who her husband
01:25:09 --> 01:25:16 was and everyone was seeing it yeah see yeah There's a clip of a funeral going
01:25:16 --> 01:25:20 on and everybody's crying because, you know, it's her funeral.
01:25:22 --> 01:25:30 Oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah. If a video ever came up for me, I'll be selling tickets. Come on, y'all.
01:25:33 --> 01:25:37 Every man counts. Every man counts. Come on.
01:25:38 --> 01:25:41 We're non-profit. We're trying to raise money. Come on.
01:25:42 --> 01:25:47 Shoot. I'll sell tickets. God forbid. That person will regret ever putting out a video on me.
01:25:47 --> 01:25:50 Because I will sell tickets and profit off of that mess.
01:25:51 --> 01:25:55 Shoot. it may not be much of a looker but let me tell you something I'll make
01:25:55 --> 01:25:58 a few dollars by the time I'm naked out of there I'll be gone,
01:26:00 --> 01:26:04 that's when I'll really run away I'll tell you anyway,
01:26:05 --> 01:26:10 that brings us to the last part of our show which is Leonard's favorite part
01:26:10 --> 01:26:17 of the show Leonard can't wait for us to do this part no no no this is a section
01:26:17 --> 01:26:19 that we call Dave's Corner.
01:26:21 --> 01:26:24 Actually i was correct my favorite part is afterwards like
01:26:24 --> 01:26:29 it's something no go ahead and anyway don't
01:26:29 --> 01:26:33 don't don't he he don't want to admit about dave's corner right now so but anyway
01:26:33 --> 01:26:39 so here is dave's corner is always something it's like a philosophical question
01:26:39 --> 01:26:44 or statement or or a scenario that we always give and we always want to guess
01:26:44 --> 01:26:48 that answer of course Always get Leonard to answer too as well.
01:26:48 --> 01:26:51 So this is what Dave's Corner is about this week.
01:26:51 --> 01:26:58 You come across an untitled manuscript and you pick it up and start reading
01:26:58 --> 01:27:02 it and you realize it's all about your life.
01:27:03 --> 01:27:06 Need a title for it what would you call it
01:27:06 --> 01:27:12 and why let's start with you audrey oh my god why me lord why me yeah because
01:27:12 --> 01:27:18 we always start with the guest yeah and audrey there are only two options if
01:27:18 --> 01:27:23 they're reading the question there's only two options oh lord oh no two options,
01:27:24 --> 01:27:29 no my title will be crazy like the box no i'm saying either i go or you go.
01:27:30 --> 01:27:38 Why I gotta go my my would be crazy like a fox because,
01:27:40 --> 01:27:46 I people always tell me I'm crazy I love to joke I love to laugh and I am crazy
01:27:46 --> 01:27:51 at times so there's two sides to me I'm a nice person but I can be crazy as a fox,
01:27:52 --> 01:27:58 so if that makes sense yes that makes that makes a lot of sense alright here we go
01:27:59 --> 01:28:04 you got your chat uh gpt on man you ready i i don't even need it okay all right
01:28:04 --> 01:28:10 go ahead i knew the answer to this question before you asked it just oh okay all right go ahead.
01:28:11 --> 01:28:14 Yeah so mine would be and this
01:28:14 --> 01:28:19 is based on one of my favorite movies too limitless and
01:28:19 --> 01:28:21 i say limitless because you know i just feel like in
01:28:21 --> 01:28:24 life you know or let's say my life
01:28:24 --> 01:28:28 i feel like anything is possible and i
01:28:28 --> 01:28:35 feel like a lot of things i kind of either spoke thought willed or worked into
01:28:35 --> 01:28:41 fruition so you know that's why i just leave limitless and there's also a movie
01:28:41 --> 01:28:46 called limitless too which i thought was a great movie which kind of talks about that as well.
01:28:46 --> 01:28:49 Yeah okay yeah all right look at leonard talking
01:28:49 --> 01:28:52 about one of the five movies that he's ever watched in
01:28:52 --> 01:28:55 his life okay some of
01:28:55 --> 01:28:58 always working we always work okay
01:28:58 --> 01:29:01 yeah well that was a famous line
01:29:01 --> 01:29:05 from a movie you know what movie that was um it
01:29:05 --> 01:29:08 sounds never mind never mind forget it forget it
01:29:08 --> 01:29:12 but it's not it's not going to my head right okay because
01:29:12 --> 01:29:16 that statement just about almost the statement it was
01:29:16 --> 01:29:18 a the person said because i always keep you
01:29:18 --> 01:29:21 working you always make sure you're working that was
01:29:21 --> 01:29:24 um in dream girls danny glover said that
01:29:24 --> 01:29:28 the jimmy early eddie murphy's character okay
01:29:28 --> 01:29:31 so my line didn't have that but on social media there's
01:29:31 --> 01:29:33 a meme where it's like i'm always working you know
01:29:33 --> 01:29:39 all i do is work i'm always working but anyway go ahead dave if you came if
01:29:39 --> 01:29:44 you came across an untitled manuscript and you picked up and started reading
01:29:44 --> 01:29:51 it and realized that was all about your life and you need a title for what would you call it and why.
01:29:54 --> 01:29:57 It's simple only a king knows
01:29:57 --> 01:30:00 the story of david oh okay
01:30:00 --> 01:30:03 yeah so and the reason why
01:30:03 --> 01:30:07 is because well my mother named
01:30:07 --> 01:30:10 me after david from the bible and
01:30:10 --> 01:30:14 i've actually in he
01:30:14 --> 01:30:18 was always one of my favorite characters from from
01:30:18 --> 01:30:21 the bible because he his life
01:30:21 --> 01:30:24 i felt mirrored my you
01:30:24 --> 01:30:27 know my life has mirrored his life i'm gonna put it that way since
01:30:27 --> 01:30:32 he was here way before me my life has kind of mirrored his his life with a lot
01:30:32 --> 01:30:38 of the things that he went through and just some of the things that he wrote
01:30:38 --> 01:30:43 about and those type of things now i didn't have a bathsheba in my life but
01:30:43 --> 01:30:45 I have, well, never mind.
01:30:45 --> 01:30:50 Anyway, so Are you sure about that? Please expand on that.
01:30:51 --> 01:30:55 Expand on that shit. You sure about that? I never had no bad shit. You sure about that?
01:30:57 --> 01:31:03 Look, I plead the fifth. So, but, but if, you know, I remember we were to do parties.
01:31:06 --> 01:31:13 No comment. No comment. No comment. Anyway, so my book title,
01:31:13 --> 01:31:16 I mean, my manuscript title, let me get back to that, would be,
01:31:16 --> 01:31:21 like I said, Only a King Knows the Story of David. I'm going to leave it there, okay?
01:31:22 --> 01:31:26 Well, I'm going to change mine. What are you going to change yours to?
01:31:27 --> 01:31:29 So 50 is Bold. That's my title.
01:31:30 --> 01:31:33 Okay, why is that? Because I'm bold.
01:31:36 --> 01:31:40 Because, no, since I turned 50, I've been doing some bold things.
01:31:40 --> 01:31:44 Like, I've gone zip lining. I've never done that before I turned 50. Wow.
01:31:44 --> 01:31:51 I traveled to seven countries by myself, slept in airports on the floor just
01:31:51 --> 01:31:55 to get to another destination because I felt I was at the airport and just saw
01:31:55 --> 01:31:58 that I needed to go somewhere else and did it.
01:31:58 --> 01:32:02 I did a lot of crazy things that I can't talk about on this podcast because
01:32:02 --> 01:32:10 it's going to be on my podcast, but good things, but you have a podcast coming up? Hopefully soon.
01:32:11 --> 01:32:19 Hopefully soon. Hopefully soon. We're starting out. It's 50 is gold. Okay.
01:32:21 --> 01:32:25 50 is gold. Okay. 50 is gold.
01:32:25 --> 01:32:33 Okay. Okay, okay. So Dave will have to come on the podcast and we can hear more about this Bashiba.
01:32:34 --> 01:32:35 That podcast.
01:32:39 --> 01:32:47 Dives into the intricates of things that we do, women and men do differently over the age of 50.
01:32:48 --> 01:32:53 Ah, okay. Well, Leonard, do you hear that, Leonard?
01:32:54 --> 01:32:59 Don't worry, we are already in talks already
01:32:59 --> 01:33:02 oh yeah okay and is she
01:33:02 --> 01:33:08 gonna be a part of the mbg uh podcast network i am of course there you go there
01:33:08 --> 01:33:14 you go all right okay all right well give everybody your information again tell
01:33:14 --> 01:33:20 them about the event one more time and you know before we close out everything.
01:33:21 --> 01:33:24 Well we are having our 10th anniversary on
01:33:24 --> 01:33:27 december 4th at the waterfall banquet hall
01:33:27 --> 01:33:30 in claymont delaware ticket prices are
01:33:30 --> 01:33:33 100 per person individual you can
01:33:33 --> 01:33:39 get a table of eight for 750 there might be a black friday sale we're not sure
01:33:39 --> 01:33:45 yet depending on how many tables we have left over but so far we may not have
01:33:45 --> 01:33:49 it but please get your ticket if you haven't gotten it the Tickets are going
01:33:49 --> 01:33:51 to be $10 per ticket individual.
01:33:52 --> 01:33:56 We're going to have a silent auction. We have a great, great line of performance
01:33:56 --> 01:33:58 that's going to be happening that day.
01:33:59 --> 01:34:03 Our host is Leshak Stanton, which is...
01:34:04 --> 01:34:08 Radio Shack, if anybody know him, he's really great. He does the brunch in Smyrna,
01:34:08 --> 01:34:10 Delaware every first Sunday.
01:34:10 --> 01:34:15 Our keynote speaker is Dave Woolley. We're honoring some great outstanding fathers
01:34:15 --> 01:34:19 and father figures in the communities. And we have three outstanding recognized
01:34:19 --> 01:34:21 leaders in our community.
01:34:22 --> 01:34:27 Governor-elect Matt Meyer, Newcastle County Executive-elect Marcus Henry,
01:34:28 --> 01:34:35 and returning Councilwoman Letitia Bracey. They are very great supporters of Everyman Counts.
01:34:35 --> 01:34:41 Go on our website, www.everymancounts.org and buy your tickets.
01:34:41 --> 01:34:45 You can get your tickets there. Visit our social media platform on Instagram,
01:34:46 --> 01:34:51 which is everymancounts, at everymancounts, Facebook, at everymancounts.
01:34:51 --> 01:34:55 So we want to see you there. We're supporting the community.
01:34:55 --> 01:34:59 Please go on our social media accounts, like our pages,
01:35:00 --> 01:35:04 follow us, and go on our website if you have any questions send us an email
01:35:04 --> 01:35:11 we'll get right back to you thank you okay all right great great folks you need
01:35:11 --> 01:35:14 to go out to this event it's going to be.
01:35:15 --> 01:35:20 Definitely the place to be and especially you know get a chance to hear the keynote speaker,
01:35:21 --> 01:35:28 friend to the show like lennon said today woolley aja that's a great great event
01:35:28 --> 01:35:33 that you put together and I know it's going to be it's going to be really really nice,
01:35:33 --> 01:35:37 and yes I do plan on being there because I'm going with Leonard so you know
01:35:37 --> 01:35:43 you know so we'll be in the house so we definitely will be in the house so good
01:35:43 --> 01:35:47 good good good good I will look forward to seeing y'all there,
01:35:47 --> 01:35:50 and the food is going to be great the food is fantastic,
01:35:51 --> 01:35:58 so you know we're going to be there we're going to have little buttons on that says next year,
01:36:00 --> 01:36:04 that's what I was going to say that'll be the hint next year next year okay
01:36:04 --> 01:36:08 for the next event no meaning you know what that means right,
01:36:09 --> 01:36:13 know. Leonard, do you know what I'm saying? You guys are coming back next year?
01:36:13 --> 01:36:16 I don't know. No, no, no. We'll be honorees next year.
01:36:18 --> 01:36:26 Absolutely. Absolutely. We're campaigning already. We're campaigning already. We're both fathers.
01:36:26 --> 01:36:29 We're both men. I mean, you know, you know.
01:36:30 --> 01:36:33 Yeah, so just saying. Absolutely.
01:36:33 --> 01:36:36 Okay, you know, no pressure, no pressure.
01:36:36 --> 01:36:39 We do. We both know you. you know no pressure
01:36:39 --> 01:36:42 anyway so but anyway
01:36:42 --> 01:36:45 we want to definitely take the time to thank you for
01:36:45 --> 01:36:48 coming on the show tonight we really appreciate it
01:36:48 --> 01:36:54 and and really it was a lot of fun and you know hopefully people that were listening
01:36:54 --> 01:36:59 got some information valuable valuable information that could someday help someone
01:36:59 --> 01:37:06 that they know very well or help someone that they don't know that because they listen,
01:37:06 --> 01:37:10 they can give that information to that person. You know what I mean?
01:37:12 --> 01:37:16 So thank you again, Leonard. Do you have anything you want to say before we sign on?
01:37:17 --> 01:37:22 No, I just want to say thank you for, of course, coming on the show and all
01:37:22 --> 01:37:27 you do in the community. I think once people read your bio and you are a woman
01:37:27 --> 01:37:30 around town, but you do some great things of the community.
01:37:31 --> 01:37:35 And, you know, we look forward to some great things in the future.
01:37:35 --> 01:37:40 I look forward to some great collaborations in the future. Definitely.
01:37:40 --> 01:37:43 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great collaborations.
01:37:44 --> 01:37:49 Look, every man counts, but it takes a woman to recognize that number.
01:37:50 --> 01:37:54 Absolutely. And I want to, I'm trying to get all of my women to recognize that
01:37:54 --> 01:37:59 every man counts and stop spewing hate and we got to embrace it.
01:37:59 --> 01:38:02 We got to promote our men regardless.
01:38:05 --> 01:38:11 A lot of that was going on during the election so that's not that wasn't good.
01:38:12 --> 01:38:15 Yeah, but it depends on, you know, how they're promoted.
01:38:17 --> 01:38:24 I'm not going to promote a negative, you know, someone who's not spewing nothing positive, you know.
01:38:24 --> 01:38:28 But when it comes to our black men and our brown men, we need to promote them.
01:38:29 --> 01:38:34 Yeah. And our light skin men. Don't forget them. I know that.
01:38:36 --> 01:38:41 It's funny. Light skin is not in right now. That's what I say, too.
01:38:41 --> 01:38:46 Definitely not in but you know the guy that's you know the guy that hangs out
01:38:46 --> 01:38:50 on this show he's all right even though he likes it you're a yellow bone,
01:38:52 --> 01:38:58 no no you're a yellow bone only during the winter time only during the winter,
01:38:59 --> 01:39:02 only during the winter you're a yellow bone during the summer you're what your
01:39:02 --> 01:39:05 brow skin no I'm melanin enriched,
01:39:06 --> 01:39:10 oh you're melanin rich what would you call me melanin and birth.
01:39:13 --> 01:39:18 Black is beautiful black is beautiful i know that's right yeah there you go,
01:39:19 --> 01:39:26 all right all right well anyway anyway we wanted like i said thank you for coming on and,
01:39:28 --> 01:39:32 that's it for us that's it for tonight folks and let us play in the music so
01:39:32 --> 01:39:36 you're playing us out so thank you guys and we'll talk to you next join us next
01:39:36 --> 01:39:41 week for another edition of news and trends with your host, Dave and.
01:39:41 --> 01:39:58 Music.
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