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Hey, Hey, and we're back. We talked weeklies after the Talking w P P m l P Philadelphia one on six point five FM. We talked weeklies after the Talk with your boy Charles. Gregory and beautiful and beautiful. We got a done lady, do that one more again? One more again? Let me see one more again. I can hear me now. You sound good, lady. That's right. She's definitely in a good thing. And so we got a dynamic show for you today. I got one of my favorite people in the studio today, man, you. Know, And so I'm excited about that. We gonna talk a little bit about that. We have another guests coming in, and we got some good news and bad news. We got the sizzle, we got a gen pack show. We actually had the opportunity to stop by one of those little rallies. I won't call them little, but I'm gonna talk a little bit. About that a little later, right, And so I'm super excited about today. But you know, before I do anything, I gotta ask you. Lady, how was your day? How was your day? My day was pretty good. I I got some work done around the house. I told you, I'm starting my little garden so my cucumbers and my tomatoes is starting to sprout up real big. Yes, they're gonna be scrunctious. I'll bring something. And then I also started a hydroponic garden. You know, basically you're growing a garden from water opposed to dirt, so and it's indoors so you can you don't really have to have it. All the rain we got, some of it was too much for my garden because it was like overflowing it. So but the one in hydroponics is inside. Got a huge But I told you, yeah, I got about an acre of land. Yeah, so I'm excited and y'all going, y'all gonna benefit from it because I'll bring something. So I had a good day. You're always doing something. Up well you. I'm so glad to first time you did something. Last time I did something for the first time. Right about that, right, what about you? Lady Building lady been here and was as productive as sparkling. But it's the. First show. For her to say it. She ain't saying. Welcome you. She's a honest woman. Man. Yeah wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait. We can welcome her back. She was like she was late. You know we talking ahead, I know. I I just want to say we talked about it before. Lady has Thought's wedding. With something out of a story book. It was like bridges, it was. It was amazing. It should have been in like one of the top magazines. Everything from the details on the table to the food. Everything was amazing. Thank you. I heard that more than once. So I'm flattered because it was a lot of work that I wasn't expecting. So I'm more importantly, I'm glad. It was a lot of work. It was a lot of work. He was talking about the photobook. Everybody has been raving about Charles also, So thank you Charles from making my special day even more fabulous. Appreciate you for sure. And what's up? What you say? Busy? It was busy. I came, you know, I went to the Riley today. So that was pretty interesting. You know, I'm trying my best not to be partial to any side, right because you know we're not partisan here, right, and so you know, I took it for what it was worth. Right. A lot of people were excited, a. Lot of people are happy about the possibility of making history once again. Uh, but yeah, it was you know, we'll see a lot of people already willing and able. You know. The first the thing that I want everyone to take back is. If you don't do anything else, just vote, perform your civic duty. Don't worry about what anyone is telling you. Vote over here, vote over there. This person is ugly, this person is horrible, this person is a criminal, this person isn't right. Don't worry about any of that. Do your own research. Don't let anyone push you on any side. Don't worry about it. You do your own research and make a judgment based on what you believe fits. Then I would say, write yourself in, how about that? Right yourself in? You know, vote vote green, or vote something right. But as long as you vote, that's that's my thing. Vote vote, vote Because I was spoken to a young, a young gentleman earlier today and he felt really discouraged, right, and he felt that he was This is something that I always talk about, a lot of people feel like they're being bullied, right, especially if you're in a community where it's a lot of blue. If you choose or say that you don't know or don't want to. Vote blue, you get a lot of finger waggon right, and I get it, I get it. I get it. However, for a first time voter, for someone who's thinking about voting, who never vote voted before, that's a little scary for them and they get a little disgruntled and they're like, wow, I don't need to vote then, I don't know. So I would rather them kind of do their own due diligence. And stop the finger wagon. Stop stop know the bullion, that's a form of bullion. Tell them to. Go do their research, and based on a research, then tell them to go vote. It's just that simple. Because we can't tell anyone on the channel, right, we can't play vapors. Right, and so what we can do is just say, performan civic duty and yeah, learn something, do your research and have fun in doing it. And what we canna say right there you go. So why don't we go into someone with whom is about that time, someone with whom I have a tremendous amount of respect for. Why don't you let us know who we have today and who we have to day Today? We have Deborah B. Hamilton, also known as doctor Debb. Going by our very. Own Charles Gregory. Deborah is the CEO and founder of Nurture Your Love LLC, with over forty years of experience as a love coach. Long time. Yeah. She helps married women and couples build deeper connections by fostering self love, which she believes is the key to a fulfilling and harmonious marriage. Y'all already know what to do. Let's give a warm wee talk weekly Welcome, Welcome to doctor Deb Hamilton. How are you? How are you? She giggles at the doctor. I know, I know, I guess I'm stuck with it. Yeah, you stuck with it. A It's all good. You embrace it. You know you know what you're talking about me. On my first day back. That's true. So you know what, So let's start there, right as I fix your camera, right, let's start there. And so we have a newly married. Young lady here today, lady at start, why don't you give her some cause you was here before, if you told her, you kind of gave her some. Cues going into the marriage. Now she's in married, that's right, that's right, So let's talk there. Let's start there. So what type of things would you tell her now that she's married? Right? Well, what you know what would you give her? What type of advice would you give her? What would you say? I just say keep you know, what all you did before you got married to get to the point where you want to be married is keep doing that. You have to stay focused on what what you love about your spouse, you know, and keep reminding yourself the reason why you married him. Right. So a lot of times as time goes on, we forget that part, we forget why we married the person we married. And people, we're gonna have arguments, we're gonna have disagreements. But the bottom line is your team now is not separate. You're not you know, you and him, It's no, it's us. We're a team. So everything that you decide to do, make sure that you do it together and have conversations about you know, your thoughts and wants and desires. And that's what I recommend anybody to do, is to always stay focused on why you married the person and to make sure that you are a team. And it's hard when you first get married anyway to be a team because you're so used to doing you. But when you think about why you got married and who you're with, always remember that you married this person for a reason, and you married for life and not to get to the point where you feel like, okay, I don't like you today. So one of the words, because you're gonna run into that. You definitely gotta run into that. We'll say you what say you? What say you? Stace. I think that's great advice. I feel like a lot of it. I'm already in that headspace, so it means them off, this time could start. So yeah, that's appreciate it. Thank you, welcome. So so there's a conversation that has been happening. Uh no, I'll get to that later. So you mentioned you know everything is joint now right, you become a teen. I have heard oftentimes where there's this narrative or pushing that you know, you're still supposed to have something to talk, you know, go get your own account, you know, don't you don't have to share everything with him, And it's usually said to the woman to do that, not necessarily the guy. Right. The guy's like, okay, right, but what's your thoughts. On you know, the idea of you know, not necessarily telling your spouse you know what you have, you know, but you know, still opening up a separate account. I believe that. It's still okay to have a separate just let them know, Like I got something of it, like a savings or something like that. What what's your thoughts on it? I don't have a problem with it. I think that. Okay, let me ask you this, what was the conversation before you got married? What were your expectations? Right? You know, did you talk about bank accounts? Did you talk about whether those bank accounts are going to be joint or if they're going to be separate, who's gonna pay what? All those things are important. So there's no right or wrong. It's what you as a team decide to do. I like that. I like that answer. And I think a lot of people don't think of, or don't talk about, quote. Unquote Derek deal breakers, right. I don't think people go in and say, okay, you know it's this. I guess they call it the honeymoon at time or whatever. Right. But I don't think before you get married you talk about like, baby, this is a deal breaking for me. You know, maybe not like that said like that, But I don't think a lot of people talk about what really grounds their gears, right, And so how would somebody initiate a conversation like that, because that can be an uncomfortable conversation, right, it doesn't have. To be uncomfortable. It doesn't have to be uncomfortable because if that's part of what you discussed or what you want to know about a person before you even marry them, which you definitely should have that conversation before you marry someone, to know what their finances are, to know what their credit score is. You need to know that information because when you get together and you just had to buy a house or something major, you need to know what the finances look like. So my thing is keep talking, keep having a conversation, and make sure you having a conversation when there's not stress happening. Make sure that conversation is a general conversation when everybody is good, not when a circumstance has come about where you were like, well, why you didn't tell me this. No, have the conversation when everybody's cool, when everybody is relaxed and just having an A and B conversation. It should be brought up. And for all these people who are out here who are not married and considering marriage, please have the conversation before you get married. Because the last thing you need to do is be having this conversation after you get married. Doctor Dad. Forty years as a coach, as a marriaging coach, that's a long time. What's the most surprising lesson that you've learned as a relationship coach? First of all, I've been married for over for I've been in a relationship for over forty years doing this before the year, so oh, okay, let's clarify that, right, Okay. But to me, and I say this over and over again, people don't know who they are. People don't have a clue who they are, and they get into relationships and they just decide as they go along, trying to figure out who they are. And that is the biggest thing that I talk about in my Married Women's Forum and when I'm talking to couples, figure out who you are. Believe me as I talk about my book, and I'm going to talk about that because there's so much trauma going on in our society and you're bringing that trauma into your relationship. But what are you doing before you come into the relationship. What are you doing to take care of you? What are you doing to understand your wants? Desires and needs so that you be able to tell your partner what that is. Because if you don't know, how can you express what you need, what you want, where you desire. You know, you have to know who you are. Right right? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So I have a question there there's there's this debate. There's a few debates going on, especially the battle the sexes. Right, but what's what's your take on? You know it comes out of the Bible. But this this whole equally yoked conversation, right, when you hear that, how. Do you define that? What does that actually mean? I hear it so many different ways will equally yoke this, right, But how would you define it or how would you approach that conversation? Most people define it through religion, right. Most people talk about being equally yoked once you're married. When it comes to marriage, there's sometimes you're not equally yoked. You determine that based on what your partner does versus what you do. Everybody has their own skill sets, right, So it's what you bring to the table, and that's a discussion that you have to have as well. Marriage is not always equal. Let's just be honest. It is not. And we have to find the middle ground of what that looks like for each couple. So that's basically what it is. But the bottom line is what do you bring into the table? What have you decided each person is going to do or bring to the table, And that's based on each couple, so it differs. So we can't just put a blanket statement on that. So when there's. You know, a quote unquote girl talk conversation where you hear, you know, the young lady say, well, you know, I want someone who you know, if if I'm educated, you know, and I got a great job, then you know, I I'm you know, a guy isn't good enough for me if he doesn't have a background or or he's not educated as much as me or X, Y and Z, Because that's something I have been hearing lately, right, And so how would you how would you approach? Is there some is there some merit to that? Or I mean because for me, right, I think, you know, I think that everyone is different, right and for some people that pay work right equally, yoke may be okay, well he doesn't have a job. Meanwhile, he just redd your whole house with his hands, right that you didn't have to pay for. But so so, how do you have that conversation or how would you, you know, engage in conversation with with a narrative that's that someone believes and something like that. What would you say to them? You're blocking your blessings. Oh see, that's doctor dead right there. I'm telling you you're blocking your blessings because you're limiting yourself with finding somebody who could love on you and love you the way you want to be loved, Irregardless of what his job title is, irregardless how much money has in the bank, what else does he bring to the table. And that's what you got to consider. So that's why I didn't mention that in the beginning, about being equally yoked from that perspective, because you can't base it on that. That's why so many people are single now because they're looking for that professional person because they're professional and there's nothing wrong with that, but the pull is slim to find that person. So don't limit yourself, don't block your blessings. Look beyond what you think you want. And are you sure that you want that? Again? M hm? You got to know who you are. Do you think that there's a lot of celebrities that they glamorize with the whole you know. Get in the bag, he got to make over. I don't even know if it's six or seven figures now, like yeah, but and I think what you said, see about the equally yot. I'm looking at it to say, if a woman, let's just say, she's looking for a guy. With a six pack, but she doesn't work out. Or you're looking for somebody who is, you know, on the exercise or the healthy eating or you know, whatever that is, but you're looking for something that doesn't necessarily, you know, mirror you. I think Kevin Samuels had that type of concept when he presented it. You know, So what do you say to people who are looking at the glamorization of celebrities to say, you know, to try to mirror Cardi b and offset. Good question, You can't. You're not being realistic because you're looking at the average person, not the celebrity, the average person and what that average person brings to the table. And I mean, you could you could be choosy. I don't have a problem with you saying I want somebody who's willing to work out with me, but maybe not to degree that you might want them to work out with you, right, so anything is possible. But I don't want you to have such specific ideas of what your your mate should look like without really exploring other possibilities. You think you think that starts in specifically for women. Do you think that starts from fairy tale age when they're a child his mom is telling yeah Disney, yes, yeah. Yeah, definitely all of us get read these fairy tales that are not true. Marriage is not glamorous. Let's just be honest. Marriage is work. So you know the fairy tale is a lie. Don't don't believe the height. It's a lie. Marriage, Marriage is real. You know there's ups and downs and you know my husband's here with me to nights. But I mean we have like this great, great marriage. I love being married to. Let me put this this brother on because I mean, you know he come in, we're gonna get him in this conversation. He hasn't said much yet, so she must be on. Camera. How are you, my brother? You know we do stop it. We do because you know we both of us were previously married, and you know we both worked on ourselves. We both know we both knew what we wanted, and we became friends. I'm gonna say this again. We became friends way before we got into a relationship. So we knew so much about each other and we knew what we wanted from each other. Right, so all of that comes into play. Instead of meeting someone and saying, ooh, I want to be with you, get to know the person. That's the key. Get to know them. And David and I that's what we did, right, We talked and became friends even before we even thought about being a couple. We became friends, right. But she did check me on that finance thing, so she's absolutely right. And I agree. You can have all the love in the world, but if your finances are not together, it doesn't make the love real good. You know, he's talking from experience. I'm talking from an experience, but I'm just saying in general, you are absolutely right. You do need to make sure you have these conversations because it interferes with your relationship down the road. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. It may not seem like it, but it will get in the way. And how do you make that work with the blended family both been married previously and then now bringing your families together. Give us some insight or some guidelines on how to make that successful. Well, your children have to know that you're interested in someone. It's not like you're the person you're madly in love with just shows up one day and you're like, we're going to be together. There's conversations about that, especially if there's young children involved. You make sure that this is the relationship that you're serious about before you bring in anybody else. But the other thing is, you know, when you are dealing with adult children, you know they need to know that you are dating someone, aren't going to be with someone. But in the final analysis, is your decision if they don't live in your house, is your decision on whatever you want to do. And that's the part that you know you got to think about. Yeah, that was a conversation we had. Has to realize that they are adults and so are we, and this is what it is right and you can. Come on in or not right. But I can't live for you because I raised you and now you know this is our new life. Yep, that's true. Yeah, that helps because I have adult children as well, and it seems like the tables to turn a little bit when they get to be like almost thirty ish and over. They try to like, you know, I guess rule your life now as if they're the parent. Can you tell us about like, how do we maintain intimacy? You know, you've been. Together for so long, you know, I know you still you know, you can do the. Date nights, you do those type of things, but how do you how do you keep that. That not just on the intimacy side of the bedroom, but how do you just keep that that alive, that fire burning. I'm so good at this, No, I love it. Actually, that's what we're talking about in my married Women's form. So, but the one thing that I think people forget is the emotional aspect of intimacy and that entels so many things. Right, feeling safe with your spouse, that is crucial. That is key. You have to feel safe because intimacy is all about having those conversations. You know, being able to if something's on your mind, feeling comfortable to be able to share that information with your spouse, right, being able to talk about any and everything without the fear of being judged, without the fear of being put down, because you want a safe haven in your environment. So all of that is important when it comes to intimacy. But there's so many wonderful things that you could do to keep intimacy going. And I think I mentioned this before, but putting that card in the mail, which is such a wonderful surprise. I do that with David all the times. I'll put a card in the mail. You know, dance, you know, sometimes we forget. You know that we used to dance together, right, David and I will hear a song and we'll get up and we'll dance. And the other thing is we reminisce a lot. We reminisce about when we were dating and what we did. And you know it, dominiscing brings everything to the center, yep, to you know, to check with yourself to make sure, yeah, that's what it. Was, yep. Because you we can easily forget about because every day, the way life is, the way this world is turned, you forget, lose track of time. I think that's an excellent transition to go into how did you meet? How did you guys meet? You want to let's reminisce, let's go down that road, right because I want to know. I was going to say, it's reminiscent is almost like that, remembering why you got married in the first. Yes, it keeps it going. Well, I'm met David. David is my brother in law's best friend. And I used to live in Cincinnati before I moved here, and I would come to visit my sister who lives well, she was living here in Philly, but then she moved to Delaware and I would come, and the first couple of times, it was how you doing, And my sister was so interesting because my sister would always be like, David, you remember my sister Debbie and from Ohio and then and we would just say hi to each other and keep it moving right. And then the third time I came, we finally had a conversation. And the conversation is where we found out that I know right. We found out things about each other that we had in common. And it was just an a B conversation. It wasn't it wasn't like I'm trying to get to know you, you're trying to get to know me. It was just the first time we actually had a conversation, and it was a really good conversation. And then I left and I went back to Ohio, and then months later we started talking moved here, and we just continued the conversation and then discovered how much. We liked each Other's move was not because of me. No, no, no, no, I clean it up. You know. I did not move here for David. I moved here for me. I had ended my well. I had been separated from my ex husband for three years anyway, and I moved here because of the circumstances. Was right, you know. I wanted to start fresh and wanted something new, and that's why I moved here, not for David. But I mean, I'm glad I did. Say it again. I'm glad I did. I love it. I love it. I love it. So that's how everything got started with us. I just love our. I keep her laughing every day. I could tell every day, every single day, this man make jokes, never entertainment because I entertained her. Yes, that's the other thing. That's our dynamics too. She could say something to me and I just take it somewhere. Else and create some scenarios. Yes, but puts a smile on her face is real and genuine, and that's the love that I have for her, because she's like real and she can't hide it. If she isn't real. That's the other part I love because I can say I'm in trouble, But in most part it's always, you know, very good energy, very good. I like how you just said that though, because she said you have to know yourself well once you get to have your partner that he's supposed to or she study you. Yes, so when you're when you're dating, it's like have somebody who has the wherewithal or that emotional intelligence to be like, hey, I'm studying you as well, you know what I mean. So like when you know, as a coach, do you you believe in the whole chemistry thing? Like when they're doing online dating and they're like checking the boxes to see if people are compatible. Does that matter? Because compatibility is what keeps you together. But it's compatibility just routine over time, like. You just get used to people's you know, they're they're ways. Only if you let it, you know. I just feel like Dyvid not know each other very well. But it was that one on one in person. I agree. I think you really need to have that yeah, personally because you know behind the screen or the curtain, it's different until you actually sit down and look into that person's eyes and feel their energy. It's just a natural thing. We all have it. Yeah, you can. Look at someone on a job or right away. Oh no, it's not gonna work. It's just energy that you have when it's live. Yeah, I agree, you have to. I think that chemistry can happen as time goes on. But it's all about getting to know each other. And that's the key. You have to know each other. You have to first of all, you have to want to know someone. You can't just you know, say I want to get with this person, I want to hang with this person. No, you have to get to know them. You have to want to know them. So because you said that, just to jeez, I have so many other questions. No, that's all right, because we all right, but real quick, because you say that, and I think of I think of the idea that some some women when they get into relationships, they may see a guy that they believe might be broken and they can fix them. Oh please don't, right, right? And so when when when it happens a lot because it's they what they see, they want a different person, right, So how do you engage in conversation with someone that seek they have someone that they kind of like, right, but it's not one hundred percent there, so they feel need to fix to get it to one hundred percent. You know, can can that happen? Or what should they do? Should they just say? Kind of like, we shouldn't even be in this situation? Like what how do you how do you grasp that concept of you can't fix anyone that's who they are and either you deal with it or don't. That's so true. No one can change anyone you. The person has to be willing to change. Doesn't mean they won't change. It just means that they have to be willing to change. We can't We have no control over anybody but ourselves. We can't change anyone, only ourselves, right, So when you see someone, I mean, and not to say the person doesn't have potential, but if you having a conversation with this person and you're telling this person what you want, what your once needs and desires are, and if they're not listening or if they don't feel you, you're wasting your time. That's the bottom line, You're wasting your time. Yeah. I think I think a lot of us, even guys, I think we get caught up into you know, if we like someone, we try our best to make them like us, you know, and we. Can't make no way. Listen, gentlemen, you can't look if they don't like you, you can't make them like you. You know, it's a vibration there. If y'all meant to be together, it'll feel natural, it feel right. But I think a lot of us men we often see a young lady that we really like and we do everything to make her like. Does and it just it's not gonna work. It's not gonna work. It has to be you know, mutual. Yeah, it has to be mutual. Now, marriage is on the front end, divorce is on the back end, unfortunately. Do you talk to your do you tell to your clients about that? And one question I have is when parents use children as pawns, even outside of the divorce, to just use that child to the parent to say, you know, I'm almost gonna make you do what I want you to do based on using the children. What do you say to those type of people who do the to do that. Well, you're hurting the children, that's the bottom line. If you're a good mother or a good father, then you're gonna you're gonna look at your children and see how your behavior is affecting your children. That's the bottom line. Sometimes the kids don't even know. Sometimes they're just doing it behind Like the children don't know, but they're telling each other as adults, you know, throwing their childs in their face like you know, well I'll take your whole f or you know those type of things. You know what. We all have this disillusion that children don't know things, but they do. They know everything. Children feel vibrations, children feel what's going on. They might not know exactly what it is, but think about the fact of how the parent talked about the other parent, how they respond when the parent shows up or when the parent calls, and how many conversations have they had when they think their children aren't listening, but they are. So you have to be careful. You have to be careful with how you deal with the other person. I mean, even though my children were grown, when I got divorced, it was I didn't say much at all in front of my children about my relationship. And my book that I just wrote everybody gonna be surprised. Well, you know what, I think that's an excellent transition. Let's jump right into the book right because time's flying. And jeez, I got to let you go. But I want to talk about the book before you go anywhere. So let's talk about the new book real quick, and also where people can find the book and all that good old stuff here. True. Okay, Well, first of all, I've had so many technical difficulties that it's not ready yet. But I am accepting pre orders, you know, So for anyone who wants to pre order my book, I'll sign it and mail it to you, of course, so you get a personal signature to me. But yeah, it's this book. It took me years to decide to write this book, and I wrote this book because I just felt like my story needed to be told. I've held back so many years on not talking about what happened, how my marriage ended, because I was protecting everybody else. And then you kind of realize that nobody's protecting you. You know, there's you know, people have their ideas about what happened, and the one thing that most people thought when we got divorced is that it was my fault, like I wanted the divorce or whatever. But in my book, you find out and I'll even talk about it. What happened was we went on a cruise and we took my parents on this. Crew, and start right there because I don't want you to give it away, because that's a good cliffording right there. I'm doing you a favor right now because now I want to know and I'm sure people why is this want to know what actually happened on that cruise, right And I think that's an excellent, excellent transition. So let's talk a little bit about how they can find you, how they can get. The book and all that gooddle stuff. Yeah, okay, Well you can go to Nurture your Love on Instagram love it and going to my bio and all my information is there, so nurture your love. Uh if on Instagram it's nurture your love. If you just want to go to my website, it's nurture youorlove dot com and it's in you. Are most people type in in you, but it's in you R t U r E nurture Yeah, nurture your Love dot com. So you can go there and you can pre order my book and just let me say that not only do I tell my story, but I also give you information on how not to in your marriage like mine. You know, I give a lot of information on you know, communication, making sure that you know who you are, because, like I said, that's my model, you have to know who you are. And I talk about my trauma, how my trauma affected uh well, we both had trauma, and how our trauma affected our relationship, and how how my husband spent like six months dogging me out. Wow, I don't say nothing else. We can go Where to find your book? Where can we get the Where we get the. Book Nurture your Love dot com? Hold on, I got to use sizzle? Uh hold on? Where sizzle? Then y'allney that thing right there? Money y'all honey? Hold where they get it? 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We're gonna come back with the Sizzle, and then we're gonna have our next interview. Let's put this fantastic. It's spark. Don't like this, but I like it. We'll be right back, y'all. We just want to get a little background as to who are Fantastic Noises and the Noisemakers if you can let us know. Yes, absolutely so. Once again, I am Fantastic Noise. I am the original noisemaker. So no one's gonna make as much noise as to me. Okay, and right here we have the Noisemaker Band. This is only half of it. The other stuffs are upstairs, the Mike, Kevin, Kevin, Lamar, Lannie and Dobbs. Who are the actual band members. These are the backgrounds and we can to make some noise. We can to bring that noise today. So that's that's what we would do. That's that's right. How did you guys get together? Man? So it started with I've been doing this on my own for almost three years now, and man, I guess each of these ship were here have different background stories. Most of us went to the same church together, and we just kept going. This one her, this is my one of my assistants, said. One of like the my my biggest support of my biggest shuit of hear, she's assistant. So we just been building and the same thing with upstairs with the band, just meeting through people, kept networking, kept seeing them. It was just like God or dang bab here we are awesome. Yeah. Well could you guys do we talked weekly? A favor? Can you give us a drop in a melody type way? Meli type way? Okay? So we talked weekly. Okay, So we're gonna do something like this wig talk week. We come in here with us, wait talk. We we come in here, them we talk. We we come in here them, we talk, We come in here. Come ahead, we's off me. Come give you already. Yo, hercules, no doubt, and so what a dynamic interview that was. We're talking a little bit about some love and relationships. You know that ain't my thing right there, But I love when people are in love though I love especially black love, Black lovers and pool we need. To love each other. And I love this young lady. That's about they come on right now. So without further ado, I'm about to call you because that's what she's knowing. But classy lady, tell me, who do we have today? Who do we have to day? Today? We have another doctor. We have doctor LEKEITHA. Poole. She is the Assistant Assistant Sports Director of Mental Health for LSU athletes and a member of the NFL's Mental Health Board. That's major. A New Orleans native, she also runs small talk counseling and consulting. With her expertise, creates a safe space for clients to grow and thrive. Y'all already know what to do. Let's give a warm we talk weekly. Welcome to doctor LEKEITHA Cooor. How are you? How are y'all? I know my southern acts saying how are y'all? It's all good, It's all good. We good, We like New Orleans. No, it's New all, no doubt, no doubt. So first and first of all, thanks for coming to the show. Really appreciate it. And uh, since you know, since we're talking about mental health, right and we're talking about athletes, because that's your scope, let's jump right to the Olympics, you know. And you know we have. Uh all right, So I'm gonna preface this by this by saying this, right, So, there has been a lot of you know, commentary about Simone Boles, right and them talking about her hair to you know, them now upset that she saluted someone. From Brazil to all this chatter, you know, and you know, Simon Boles can't do nothing wrong with. Me, So I'm like her biggest fan, right, but I'm you know, my concern is, you know. Her mental health, you know, and. For something like that, or athlete like that that constantly get braided with you know, bad commentary or people pointing fingers on anything of that matter, what would you say to a Simone Boles or any athlete that would go through something like that. Yeah, I think, you know, she's actually a great example of what it looks like when somebody understands that you know the noise and the commentary from people who could never even come close to physically doing the things that she does. I think because what we saw during the last Olympics where she stepped away for a bit and took time to figure out herself. And to figure out what was going on with her. She's talked a lot. During this Olympics about how she stayed in touch with her therapists while being in pairs, and the therapist is back here in the US and like prioritizing what she needs. And so it's interesting because I don't know that people would feel the same way if she was talking about other ways to like physically maintain her body. Right, Like athletes after they compete, they have they get treatment from their athletic trainers, they see the team doctors. It's no different with our brains. Our brains are a physical part of our body too, And so I'm proud of her for being to do that. So I would tell any athlete, you know, you have to know what works best for you and for your body, and for her, it's her mind. Gymnastics is a pretty mental sport. But I mean, we could pick any of the greats and I would I would be willing to bet that most of them had some sort of way of taking care of themselves mentally, emotionally. The men's basketball team they just won, you know as. Well a little while ago, and you know, I think about folks who aren't competing anymore, the d wads who's doing commentary for it, the you know, Serena Williams, like people who we all know obviously are are goaded in their status of being the greatest athletes in the world. They know what it meant for them to have to be there, and so I think if we can, you know, lay off a little bit. Of these in some ways, they're superhumans. You know, they're regular people, but they're superhumans and what they do to train all year long for these big moments. So I'm proud of her. So we have as we'll stay on the Olympics just a little while longer, because I want to talk about Karriie Richardson, you know, and you know, her going through her volluys and her volluys and peaks as it relates to you know, just just performing, you know, her trying to stay consistent with the performance and the expectations that the world has for her, Right, How. Big of a burden is that for an athlete? Right, especially if you're looking at me to achieve and I don't and I fall short. Right, But then you see she just lasts her, you know the four by one where she excelled, right, she came from behind and then one shout out to her. I love that's another one, I love, I love me. So she called, right, and so what what how do we assist not necessarily assist, per se, but what do you tell, you know, people, because it's not. Just athletes, right, what do you say when. You know you may not achieve and then you finally, you know, make the great so the but then sometime get knocked back off the horse? How do you recover from that? Yeah, I think it's the last part of what you just said. Like, we're all human and so it would be I think a strange thing if we didn't have goals, or if we didn't have things that we wanted to achieve, and that we all know it takes effort and energy to make those things happen. And so with somebody like. Shakiri, who you know, Fortunately, i've seen her in her element in the collegiate space at LSU and so you know, I recognize that there's a part of athlete identity that a lot of times people I think just choose to ignore and that yes, they're human, but also like think about the ages of some of these athletes. They're you know, early twenties and they're just figuring out life as people. And so the same way we all want to excel when we're on our jobs. We're performers too. We want to be able to you know, make mistakes and be able to bounce back. We also want people to see that we're more than just maybe the roles or the things that they want us to accomplish in that moment. And so I'm so proud of her. I feel like she's flow Jo reincarnated. I was a fan of as a little girl, and so just her tenacity and her ability to you know, have what I'm sure some people might think of as like a don't care attitude, but in actuality kind of like we were talking about with Simone, when you're the best, you sort of have to walk in that you have to be able to be like this is who I am. And I think that that maintains actually a healthy mental state for athletes like that. But I think also it allows for there to be grace for themselves, which is really the only person to most. Of them that matter. When something doesn't go their way, it just gives them the fuel that they need to get back out there and do it again. And she's another great example this. You know, the last Olympics, she was trying to sort it out and figure it out for Tokyo didn't make the you know, it didn't happen, and then she's back and better than ever. And she's even been quoted saying that, you know, she's not just bad, she's better. And so I think being able to know yourself as a human, whether you're an athlete or not, it makes a huge difference. In what excelling and being resilient really looks like. I have one more question about the Olympics because I think, you know, when I think of what you're into, your scope and your specialty, just the circle of emotions right that I see that not only the athletes, but the people who's watched to support these athletes. Do you think this right here right may become or may be a shock to everyone because this just pop up in my feet, right It says Jordan Child's stripped of Olympic bronze medal. Now, I didn't vet that, right, but this was on I believe it was on hold on a second. I didn't get a chance to invest this, but it seems that essence essence. And so it's seeing that the other team actually put in another protest, right, and they found that because of the one minute rule, they was supposed to put the challenge in before one minute, but it happened after one minute. So the possibility of her bron's being stripped. From her. Mentally, emotionally, physically, that can drive someone insane, right, And so what would be first of all, what's your thoughts on that? In two? How would you like address something like that to athlete who came to you, say, for example, George Child's was your client, Like, how would you talk to her if emotionally she came to you upset because that had truly happened. And yeah, I mean I didn't vet it, but yeah, I just saw something right before hopping on with y'all about it too. I haven't seen the full details of what happened or what the rule was, you know, but I think that's interesting because it's it's a rule that obviously, like the performing entities every country, we should all we're all supposed to be aware of those things, and so it really isn't the athlete's fault that if some challenge or you know whatever came. In late, so that that's that's a tough one. I do think though, if it ends up being true and that is what happens, again, I think from from an observing fan of Jordan's and those athletes for that particular sport. I think she will be okay. But I think one of the things I have to make sure that from a clinical perspective that I would talk to her about is making sure that she doesn't feel like something that is, you know, based on a rule or based on sort of an outside decision doesn't affect the way in which she views her performance in order to earn that medal. You know, I think it was it was looking I don't know how much y'all followed Jim from the beginning of the Olympics, but like it wasn't even looking at at that Jordan was going to get to compete for an individual medal in the first place, and someone got sick and so there was all these kind of crazy circumstances about her competing, and I think it's you know, it's almost ironic. And so in those in those moments, it's figuring out like where that person learns to you know, laugh off the craziness of sports, the sports are wild, and then also supporting her obviously and being able to recognize, like, you know, she's still a gold medalist. Team USA itself got their gold medal, and if individually that has changed something, you know, for her, She's also earned other medals before, and so I mean I think she's earned other you know, in other ways that she's been a well accomplished athlete and she's not done yet. So I think being able to, you know, encourage an athlete in that way, knowing that sometimes circumstances happen, just like in life, that you have to be able to, you know, be okay to know what your your contribution was and what it was, and in this case, it sounds like it really wasn't her contribution. It was rules. Yeah, yeah, yeah, doctor Pool, thank you for that. Thank you for your analysis on the Olympics. I did my best, i know. Excellent, excellent analysis, and then I appreciate that. So now let us get into you, because this conversation, this interview is about you. So I want to start with, you know, first of all, how are you? How are you? How your mental health? Right? I normally start a conversation with how are you? And I want to start there, how are you and how is your mental health? You know, I appreciate that I don't get asked that often. I'm asking that to most people every day all day. So I'm well, it is. An exciting time, like in sport, and so that makes my job, which is different every day fun and you know, obviously watching the Olympics, and then my role full time is working in the collegiate space, and you know, working at a large. Institution at SEC school like LSU. Is a never a dull moment, and you know, so I try to do my best to find a balance of taking care of myself and just getting ready to start another season of sports. And so I'm well, fantastic, fantastic you got into this space, right? Was it something that pushed you into kind of this this you know, this this support sector of you know, mental health, mental wellness? What actually got you into this particular field? Because you know, we had a few you know, psychologists on consultants on you know, And I guess what I often wonder is, was it something that triggered you to do this because of you know, your own kind of life experiences, right, what actually got you into this field? Yeah, I definitely feel like I fell into the work through life circumstances kind of. So you guys mentioned earlier, I'm from New Orleans. Y'all know, it rains there a lot, and it floods there a lot. And so I actually happened to be a high school senior when Hurricane Katrina happened. In two thousand and five and we lost everything. So we started life completely over, had to go to new school for my senior year. My college applications were probably somewhere lost in the mail, I don't know, but eventually I made it. And I remember in that experience observing my mother and my grandmother trying to just like hold our life together, our peace, our life back together. And I remember watching them have various ways of coping. And of course, at the time, I was seventeen, so I didn't necessarily fully understand what they were doing to keep themselves together, and the irony I guess of it is. I ended up for my spring semester of my senior year my high school. Our teachers were amazing and went and cleaned up our school so that any of us who could get back to the city could kind of graduate together. And so my mom got me back to New Orleans so I could do that, and I took a psychology elective. I had one just open elective slot and took it. And that class opened up just a whole world language wise for me, of explaining emotions and coping and being able to just better understand, particularly you know, as a black clinician and a black woman like that, growing up with psychology as a part of like your way of life is just. Not normal for us. It's changing, it's getting better now, but back then that just wasn't the thing, and so I didn't have anyone in my family to ask about having this as a career. And so that class changed my life. And then I went on to Florida State for undergrad majored in psychology, just kept going, got my master's in clinical mental health, got my PhD, and counselor just to keep learning as much as I could because I felt like, well if that happened to me back, you know, at seventeen, I'm thirty six now, and realizing that just having the right language to explain my feelings made a huge difference in my life, the trajectory of my life. Then what could that look like, you know, to be that for somebody else. And so I started out just working broadly in clinical mental health, so not necessarily with athletes. I loved working with college age students, and so slowly that scope just got more and more narrow and for the last nine years have worked with specifically athletes, but for the last about fifteen fourteen have worked with college age students on their mental health and wellness. And it's been a joy. It's allowed me to be what would have been something I would have wanted back then. That's awesome, Doctor Poul. That's that's great, Doctor Poul. I wanted to ask you about, like far as contact sports like football and boxing, like those are high physical injuries. That can even CAUs mental health. Like what what do you tell students or what's your your insight on those contact sports. It's tough. Obviously, football is a big one where you know, we see CTE like a lot of injuries will happen, and sort of there's some repercussions mentally for people you usually in the long term, so they usually don't see the immediate impacts of things like that. But it's it's tough because by the time you know, folks get to the collegiate and the pro space for both, you know, playing at a school like LSU or in the NFL, they usually have been playing like you know, park ball since they were like four or five, and so it's really helping them to have a healthy balance of understanding like what does it mean to play as safely as you can in the sport like that, while also knowing most of the folks who play those sports they love it and it has become an outlet for them sometimes mentally and emotionally, to be honest, and then helping them to figure out, you know, what does that look like to elevate constantly to keep themselves safe while knowing you're always kind of taking a risk when you go out there. And so I honestly don't worry as much about the players. It's like usually their parents and their families who are just so nervous for them all the time, which I mean to be fair. They have the right to be those are pretty danger Your sports part of it, though, is really from a performance perspective, learning how to play your sport safely, and that could really be for any sport, contact or not. Everybody should kind of think about it that way, what do I need to do to be the best at it while also you know, being safe. So there's a lot there's a lot out there to be Leria. What are some of the signs of the CTE that you see. You'll see some memory loss, so things that people kind of see a traditional memory loss. You might see somebody becoming more irritable than normal. So and this again usually happens after people have stopped playing your sports. So usually after a little bit of time, your brain has a little bit of time to not be in that sort of competitive mode or still in a physical space of feeling like it has to be sort of fully protective of you to play the sport. It gives our brain sort of an exhale moment, and then once that happens, that's when you really start to see some of the signs of damage, so the memory loss, the the irritability. Sometimes people will have depression or forms of anxiety as a result, and they won't necessarily have direct causes in the way that traditional depression or anxiety typically shows up. And so you really start to see almost like a shell of a person just most people in their lives don't recognize them in the same way that can come in outbursts or that can end up being maybe permanent for some people, it can be really scary. I'm trying to. Jump in and ask a question that after listening to you talk about all the different health issues and challenges from these sports, do you and play safe? Right? So, do you really have to learn how to play safe to avoid these things? Is that it? And if I don't know, if they don't like, is it worth it? Yeah, that's a good question. Yeah, so you do you do have to kind of learn to play your sport safely. Again, you could think of we us like football as an example, but going back to our examples of like gymnastics, that's a dangerous sport, like if you slip off of a bean, you can break your neck. Or I've seen examples of you know, young women in particular on you know those events like falling and literally seeing their legs dislocate, and I mean those that's scary, and so you know, there's there's only so much you can do. To protect yourself. Obviously when the sport itself is dangerous, I think that it does pose a lot of questions and I get asked that a lot of like yeah, is it is it worth it? And I think that's tough, you know, as somebody who I was an athlete all through all the way up until high school and until Katrina happened, I didn't get my senior season of volleyball and track, But I recognize that, you know, there they are protective factors for us emotionally that come with playing sport, and so people who play those sports they love it like athletes love what they do. There's there's you know, there's a chemical sort of reaction that also happens for all of us the same way when we see someone we love or we get to do an activity that we love, our body and brains respond. There's almost you know, people talk about like a runner's high for people who love running and jogging, and like, those same things happen in sport, and so it's tough as somebody who isn't putting in that work and the way that they are every single day to say like, h you know, do you give it up? Do you stop because it you potentially could be hurt and instead maybe again helping to make sure that the education is there and that the resources are there, particularly when you start talking about college spoards, when you start talking about professional sports, those leagues they owe it to those folks who are putting their mind and body on the line every day to make sure they have the best possible resources to avoid those long term injuries like that. So it's tough. I feel like some of my athletes, if they heard me, would be like, un doctor Pool, don't tell me not to feel like my sport. But I mean again, I am a person that's always like, well, how do we do this the safest way possible and make sure that we're just being proactive and looking out for things like the signs and stuff like that. If something does happen, because it's it's hard. It's hard on their family and friends afterwards, when they don't get that same person back that they started, you know, playing football when they were five and now they're twenty five and they don't even recognize them anymore. You don't want them to live in fear either you want them to, right. You don't want to not do something because of you might hear right, You just want to go do it and have fun and live that life. Yeah. But when you talk about plans safe, especially in a sport like like contact sport like football, right, it's not just for the youth to play safe, but for you to for yourself, but also plans safe for others. So for me, it's always like those you know, the dirty plays or things like that. You know how safe you are. Somebody hits you and you don't know what's coming, and they you know, and they do it a certain way, you know, intentionally, you know, you got to It's all of those things too. Yeah, speaking of safe sports, doctor Pool, the LGBTQ community, a lot of like transgenders are now playing sports where I guess like, if you're born a male and now you're going against like a female, what's your input on that, because that is a safety cause, like you know, anatomically, men and women genetically are are born differently, so strength is different. What's your insight on that? Yeah, I mean, I think it definitely is a hot topic right now, specifically in the collegiate space, just because that's a time where people are in places of discovery, they feel the most like themselves, they feel maybe freer to do that. And so we are getting more and more athletes who are comfortable in their identities being able to say, well, I identify this way, and so I want to compete in this way as well. And so so there's. Lots of controversy in the conversations for sure, but I mean, I think part of it has to do with the fact that, just like you said, like from an anatomical perspective, people have to be able to feel that they are equipped and prepared physically no matter how they identify to play their sport. And so what we're seeing is just people being able to kind of combat the spots where people aren't super happy about, you know, maybe somebody who identifies a certain way now to play within their league. I think we have to leave room for people to say that at the end of the day, I'm going to show up and train in the way that I need to to compete at the highest level. And so I don't know that we'll ever we will never probably have full consensus of the world on what it looks like for people to do so. But I think what you're going to see is that if we're going. To say that sport is sort of this great equalizer in communities and it's a universal space for people to be able to do something they love. Like we were talking about earlier, I think there's gonna have to be sanctions around what does that look like to let people play freely while also again keeping things safe for people. So I don't think that there's ever been any final conclusions. And the n c a A is rolling out policies all the time right now about what does it look like and what it will look like, and I don't think we're even close to done and and seeing what that's gonna be mm hmm. Thank you for that. I'm sorry, my mic is cut off. I'm listening to you, doctor Pool. You like you. I like y'all too. Yeah, I want you to come on a little more off. I think you you you bring uh this this you know professional scope that I think we can jump a little bit more in. So, Yeah, we're gonna talk. We're gonna talk a little bit. I'll come back anytime for y'all any kind for sure? For sure, say that again, lady. Especially when the big sporting events are coming up, you know, you might need to yield to you for some insight. Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely. I want to jump into you know when it when it comes to okay, this is this is a question, right because you're you're amazing at what you do in your commentary as it relates to that. But I want to know what would you tell you know, your your younger you right. That you something that you know now right that if. You knew then you would do differently based on the context of you understanding more of not only yourself, but you know, more of the mental capacities of people, you know, psychology, their their movement. You know, you know the quote unquote air quotes right from wrong because we already know that that that dynamic. Right relative relative. Absolutely, so let's talk a little bit about that. What would you tell your younger you, uh, your maybe your fourteen, maybe a twelve year old self, you know, yeah. Yeah, I definitely would you know, one, encourage me to be able to stay free and open like my mom raised me to be that kid that tried anything. So and being from New Orleans, we do sports, we do music, we paint, we write, and so that's a part of like the culture there, and so I think from you know, a sort of mental health and a wellness perspective, I don't know that I ever would have imagined that some of the things that I've now done and been exposed to and had, you know, the ability to accomplish that I saw myself doing that, and so I honestly I would just encourage me to be able to sort of be open to the fact that, like, you know, you can do anything you put your mind to. And I tell that to athletes all the time obviously now, but I don't necessarily know that as a kid, just because I didn't have the knowledge, I didn't understand fully what it meant to take care of my well being at that age that I you know, I definitely would would remind sort of little Lakeitha of that and really just encourage her to get more involved in figuring out what is like taking care of yourself mentally, physically, emotionally look like, because we do all have stories. I know you said that earlier, like most people get into this field, it's because they have you know, some something about them, and I mean most I use Katrina as that turning point, but my life leading up to that seventeen also came with a lot of a lot and so I think just encouraged me to be myself to you know, do the work like I say now to people of figuring out who you are, but liking who you are, like genuinely liking who you are, no matter if you're different than other folks. And so, you know, I think I turned out okay still, but I definitely could have used that more, I'm sure from people around me or having that knowledge for myself. Yeah, you're you're you're knocking out these questions. You killing me with us, right, So I. Talk all day for a living, I get to do that. That's good. So why don't you tell me what's the legacy that you would like to leave? You know, that's a. Good question, I think, and I think about that a lot actually, just having done this work now for a long time and recognizing that in order to sort of practice what I preach, there has to come a point where being a clinician directly. One on one, uh won't. Be the way in which I would probably keep this work going or keep providing resources, just because it does weigh on mental health practitioners' minds, Like I don't think people think all the time about us as the humans that we are, that's listening all day to other people's traumas and that sort of thing. And so I think for me, the legacy I really want to make sure that I left behind is one that centered around embracing you know, wellness and rest. You know, a lot of there's a lot of conversation right now that that that is trending for, particularly for people of color around you know, rest being a right and not this thing that you have to earn and this thing that you have to like work yourself to the bone to to sort of earn from life. And so I definitely want to make sure that you know, in my own you know, children, or my family members, or my friends and my colleagues, to really make sure that they understand that concept of like being you and being a full, whole version of you that is well taken care of, well loved by yourself is the greatest gift you can give to yourself. And so I just hope that people realize that, and I want more and more people to kind of realize that. And if I can leave that behind, then I feel like I will have you know, done my part and fulfilled my purpose. I know I can't touch every single individual in this world, but I feel like I will have conquered my little corner of the world. What does a day looks like? What is a day in a doctor pool? It's rough. Sometimes a day in the life, it's just so different. So it could be different every day, right. So a typical day though for me, especially on campus like at LSU, is you know, a day mostly with individual sessions or all of our student athletes. So we have a close to five hundred student athletes at LSU, and I do have a small staff, so it's myself and two other clinicians, and so that's students doing walking sessions. Maybe they have a competition coming up, or maybe they have a mental health concern that they arrive to college with. And you know, maybe that somebody who comes to see me weekly. So the day could be a mix of those types of folks. We also provide all the mental performance work for our teams, which is a little different than just your clinical mental health space. That's more of the things people think about, like your mental skills training like visualization and queuing and being able to sort of like get your head like in the game to be the best performer you can. And so a lot of that work happens with teams. So in a typical day I might have I might wake up at you know, six forty five or so. I meet with the Beach volleyball team because they practice at seven am. I usually get like fifteen minutes before and do something with them, either deep breathing exercises, visualization, something like that, then go into my day of individual sessions. Our volleyball team practices, our indoor volleyball team practices in the afternoon, so I might swing by there to either watch practice because maybe I have some observations to do with some individual athletes that I'm working with, and then I always try to end. Maybe stopping by football practice is intense kind of because of the reasons we talked about earlier. So watching that both during the week and then Saturday night too can be a lot and so sometimes I try to plan out when I pop by those types of practices that in basketball and some of our other sports. And we're fortunate we got a lot of different sports, so I get to go from being inside and outside all day and getting to do a lot of like just connecting with people, coaches and staff and our student athletes. So it's it's a funday. You said everything about work and about you, so. I come at the end, at the end of the day. Okay, that's what I want to hear. So what what do you do to kind of settle down from all of the help that you helped everyone else? Right? That is a good question. Yeah, I'm glad you put me on the spot for that. Yeah. So usually to wind down, and I wish I could say what time that usually is, but it varies, to be honest, and so whenever it's time to go home, I usually I found myself more in my drive home, I really end up not listening to like music, like when I'm coming in, especially if it's five forty five in the morning, I'm coming in blasting. I love like all types of music, whether it's you know, New Orleans based like Bounce music and Big Freedom in the morning or something like that, versus you know, being able to throw some Beyonce in there or something else. But in the evenings, just because I am trying to kind of give myself permission to let go of whatever everybody else has dumped on me. I try to make sure that, you know, I give them myself that quiet moment to drive home. And that's also before I might call and touch base with any friends or family members too, because I'm still a person to them and sometimes they need me too as a person, not as their therapist, but you know, as their daughter or their friend, and they might be calling for advice or whatever, and so I try to just give myself that and by the time I make it home, I usually cook myself some dinner. You know, watch I'm rewatching scandal right now. I don't know if that's a good idea during election season to do that, but it felt like the right thing to do right now to keep my brain off of the fact that all these seasons of sports are about to start, and so I just make time to do that. I journal, I pray, I meditate, and so being able to just kind of give myself a routine so that I can, before I lay down for the night, have put aside from my mind and my body like what the day has kind of dumped on me, and you know, and I think I think that takes a lot of practice, too, though I wasn't always as good at that, especially when I first got into this work because working in athletics, like you guys heard, it starts so early in the day, and then you know, I can have a full day, like a normal work day that maybe my last person is at five o'clock. But now our women's basketball team, I have a seven o'clock game. I'm not gonna go home because I might not come back, and so I'm gonna stay there. And the game now is not over till nine. And now I'm back at work the next morning for a seven am practice. And so I do make sure that I set some strict boundaries around my self care when I. Can doctor pool. As I mentioned earlier, with New Orleans or New Orleans, I don't hear the accent like I, but I know that you can bring it out. I know we always can. I can we hear a little bit of the accent. I think it depends on what you say. I know most people always, you know, get on us because we people drag. I don't know how to not say it that way. But people always talk about the same baby, and we say baby a lot, and that's a thing. And you know, I think, like it's interesting because being from New Orleans I actually was talking to a friend about this. The other day. In New Orleans, there are different accents within the city. So the example I always give is like, if you're from uptown New Orleans, you might sound like Wayne, like Lil Wayne, versus if you yes a Bay a drawn out baby. And and you know, if you're from Gentility or New Orleans East, we tend to talk a little faster. I grew up in the Lower Ninth Ward and moved to New Orleans East when I was about twelve, and so we just have this kind of speed to us and always feel like we can't slow down when we talk. So you know, it's interesting. I think I think I don't notice it coming out until somebody points it out anyway, So it's probably some. Of the random things that we say. And then y'all know, we make up words in New Orleans too, like and phrases like we say make groceries instead of go to the grocery store, we say I'm gonna make groceries. So it's just it's a it's interesting, it's an interesting place. But I heard it when you start explaining. Probably because that fast talk can Yeah, all. Right, I'm gonna throw your curveball here because you went through this time real fast, and I'm a little upset because you went through my time, right, and. So it's all. And so, uh, I want to know the one thing right that no one knows knows about doctor Pool that you can tell us now right now we talk week. Yeah, one thing I think, and it's kind of fits with what you're asking me about, like how do I decompress and escape from the work that I do. So my sort of it's not a full out secret passion. I think people closest to me might know that I love it, but definitely not like our student athletes or other athletes that I work with. Is I am super super passionate and love interior design like random, random like fun facts. And so it's interesting because I, no matter what, probably find a way to make that connected somehow to mental health. And so I recently have just been really like into I took a class at LSU as an undergrad student randomly back in school again, and people are like, you got three degrees, why are you back in school? But I think it's fun, like it's something that it takes my brain off of again the day to day of what is usually pretty heavy work. And I get to then study like color psychology of why people paint their houses a certain color, or you know, what does it look like to match textures that you know, the feel of something for somebody makes somebody's energy feel different. Why when we sit on another sofa versus something that feels like vinyl or whatever else. And so I had no idea that that that interior design, which to me just felt like a fun crafty thing, could also have this depth to it. And so so now I. Tend to nerd out a little bit. But I feel like I'm doing that right now, I'm talking about it. But you know, I think that that's something a lot of people just would never guess that I would spend, you know, my time doing. Between that and then like music, my dad was a musician and so I grew up playing also saxophone. And I don't think a lot of my athletes know that about me. And so those are things too that when I need to decompress and kind of turn my brain off and just need to do something that I don't have to put a lot of thought into, that's kind of like go tos. And so now I'm letting my secrets out now people. Thanks for that. But fun fact, I just have a certification in interior design, right yeah, yeah, so when you talk about color psychology, I was going to give you that ole nugget. Yeah, but also understanding how wombs are set up right makes people feel either claustophobic or then right alotone, So you can always think about that and put into your little basket of Yeah, your piece. So kudos to you, my friend. And we like you here. I like you, I like yeah yeah, And. So what we'll say is stay in contact with us, and yeah, we'll bring you back to the show once. We always say, once you come to the show, you a friend to the show, so you're always welcome to come back. Keep doing. That's right. Thank you so much, Thanks y'all for having me. This was awesome. I never get asked uff like that. So before we let you go, you gotta let us know. Let everyone who's watching how they can get in contact with you, all that gooddle stuff. Yeah. Yeah, if anybody's looking for me through l s U, if you put l s U and you put my name in, you'll find me. But if you're interested. More just general mental health things, my private practice on Instagram is go small Talk Counseling and the G E a u X is how you spell go in Louisiana because everything's French there for. Us, and so you can find me there. You can find me personally. I kind of try to do good job of tracking my adventures in sport and being in the consulting world around wellness and on my personal Instagram which is just at lakitha p and so either of those you can find me. Find more. If there's any information I can provide to help someone in their mental health journey, please let me know. Happy to do that through those meetiums. Then you have it, Ladies and gentlemen, Doctor Pool, we want to give you a. Random for plums for that a dynamic interview. We love you to death. So like I said, once you come to the show, you're friend to the show, so you're always welcome to come back, and we anticipating hearing from you soon. And it's nothing else. You take care of yourself. Yes, y'all do the same, and thank you so much for having me. Take care now, ladies and gentlemen. Ladies and gentlemen, that was doctor Pool. We really appreciate her. We really like her, and she'll be back. On the show. But one thing that I'm excited for. Guess who popped in? You popped in? Then? What's going on? Hey, I'm doing all right? How is everybody doing? He s, Hey, I'm mad I'm not there because I wanted to see. The newly married woman. Dad gave her some good gems. Oh I think y'all set me up for my first day bad? Yeah, yeah, definitely. That's crazy. How ironic. I'm doing? Okay, I had a crazy day to those today. So I just wanted to give a shout out to my grandma, who turned ninety three to day. Oh yeah, she's she's like on. Cloud nine today, ninety three. So what year is that? Nineteen twenty thirty, nineteen thirty one. Thirty one, thirty one. Wow, she has seen a lot. Yeah yeah, and with this, with this presidential uh you know thing coming up, it's just like to see a black woman run for you know, I know Shirley Chisholm did it before. But this one is real good. Yeah, I know, she's the same, yeah, yeah, yeah, especially seeing things happen that nobody ever thought, like, you know. Back then that would be happening. Now. You know, we had our first black president already, so that's something that I guess the ancestors would have never imagined what happened here in the United States. But you know, I. Guess this is the landa opportunity, so I guess now anything can happened. But yeah, she gets the fusting when stuff. Come on. See you gotta see. Her grandmnd grandma. But you're ready for what you gotta do right now. I'm ready, all right. We'll give it to me early. All right, So make sure you guys go right now, don't walk to run and go subscribe to you Talk weekly on all social media and podcast platforms. And if you want to make a donation, you can donate to dollar sign cash app, I mean on cash at d dollars on we Talk weekly. I know donation is too great and too. Small, all right, So Rapper Nelly. He was arrested at the Hollywood Casino in Saint Louis for an active warrant for an old traffic violation of no proof of insurance and when he was arrested, he had h he was in possession of a control substance, so they tried to charge him with that as well. But Nelly's attorney, Scott Rosenblum, released a lengthy statement and he was saying mister Haynes was not charged with drug possession. He was arrested for no proof of. Insurance from a twenty eighteen from twenty eighteen on a warrant issue December twenty twenty three that he received no notice. So he's going on and he's saying the officer informed mister Haynes a background check was mandated when a player won over a certain amount. So Nelly is at the casino and he's report allegedly won a lot of money, and they're saying that they once a player wins a lot of money, they have to do a background check, which is I mean, I guess I didn't know that was casino procedure, but I guess it is. And then when they did the once they did the background check, mister Haynes was informed this is the attorney again of the warrant for a no proof of insurance infraction. This officer felt compelled, felt. Compelled to handcuff mister Haynes behind his back and parade him through the casino in front of other patrons. So Nellie's attorney added that Nelly was targeted by an overzealous outer line officer. Instead of just supervising the transfer of mister Haynes' winnings, the officer felt compelled to needless needlessly run a tech for warrant. So Nellie's attorney is confident that the case will go nowhere and they will be looking. Into the officer's conduct. I mean, it's just it's just crazy that. And I know other other counties are doing some crazy stuff when it comes to like warrants for just just little minor stuff. But they do give a warrant for traffic violation if they take it to court, which most of. The times they do. And if you don't show up for the Warren out for you, even traffic tickets, if the old traffic tickets, it will for the Warren Out for you. So Young Miami, she has finally broken her silence on a relationship with Ditty, surrounding the allegations he's facing so as she returns to her Revolt TV podcast, Krisha Please, Young Miami kicked off the first episode of her second season being interviewed by Saucy Santana on her shof So Young Miami started out talking about her mental health and how people were not supporting or checking on her when everything erupted with Ditty. So according to. Young Miami and Ditty's dating timeline, they connected in twenty twenty one, confirmed they were dating in June twenty twenty two during episode during an episode of Karisha Please, and in the summer of twenty twenty three, Young Miami said she was single. In an interview with The Cut. So Young Miami was asked why hasn't she spoken out since all of the allegations of sexual assault, trafficking, domestic abuse, and civil lawsuits came out against Ditty, and she said, I can't speak on something that wasn't my experience, and I can't speak on something I don't know. I can't speak on these allegations because I wasn't around at that time. I don't know that person, and that wasn't my experience. So Young Miami stated she was a victim victim of abuse in two previous relationships and that she wouldn't go through that again. So she talked about when everything went down, she needed to take a break and focus on herself, her career, and her family, and Young Miami said she needed to let Diddy navigate and figure it out on his own because she couldn't get caught up and all that that he was going through. So she claimed her and Diddy were in love, so she was in a lot of pain and you know, over everything. That was going on. But one thing she did question is why was she being crude suppiede along with Diddy? So what's your thoughts on that? Mm hmm. I agree with that, like that, why why are you targeted her? Yeah? And I think she was being accused of, you know, some things like you know, you're trafficking and I don't know, I don't know if there's any I haven't heard of any charges against her as far as like the charges that Diddy is facing. But yeah, they were really trying to put her in the mix with everything. So hopefully, you know, you can make her come back because we'll see, all right. So the Celebrity Sizzle Award of the Week goes so. Uh. The USA basketball team, they celebrated their fiftieth anniversary of a with the Star Study event to commemorate the Moustone. The event titled the Celebration of Olympic Basketball Board together members of the USA Men's and women's NBA teams, and it was hosted by Comcast NBC Universal Chairman and CEO Brian Roberts and NBA Commissioner Adam Silver. So there was a surprise performance by Snoop Dogg and then he brought out the women's team on stage. Every member of the twenty twenty four US men's and women's teams were there, such as Lebron James, Stephen Curry, Kevin Durant, Diana Tarassi, Asia Wilson, and Brianna Stewart. And then you had NBA and WNBA legends and Olympic gold medalists Carmelo, Anthony, Andre Eagle, Dolla, Chris Mullen, Gary Payton, Dwayne Wade, and Sue Bird. They were all in attendance, and also actresses Gabby Gabrielle Union and Taraji p Henson. Yeah I go, Gabby like I know where Gary Roger Henson were also there. So this celebration comes amid the success of the US at the twenty twenty four Paras Olympics and ironically on the heels of the fiftieth anniversary of hip hop. So the NBA has been playing to hip hop beats for fifty years. So shout out to hip hop two and I'm your girl, Lauren Sizzle and that was a sizzle. But one quick question for you, what athletes do you remember that doubled as NBA players and rappers and hip hop? Koby Man, Yeah, Kolby the Great well the god you mean shout. And I don't remember him. It was like. Definitely because he was he was in Philly rappers ball players. Real quick. And regards to Snoop doing that from when you did the story with Family a few I swear the Snoop probably phone is bringing off the hook because they. Did you see that on Family? He was voted number one as what was it? It was the top I think they had eight eight, the top rappers. Yeah, the top rappers in the world, number one, they had number one. Yeah, that's why they probably called. Those questions aren't asked well. Alogized to the hip hop community because Snoop was number one. I think l L was last was last? Okay, j Z made it, but he made it last last. Wow? What what was what's her name? I forgot that guy's name played for uh he was rapping too. Yeah, it's been it's been. I forgot what he played for. Was it Williams? No? Was it Damian Lillard? No? He he? I know, yeah, okay, Linzo Ball, I think Damian Lillard. I think he did. Yeah, hm hmm. Baron Davis, did he rap? Uh? What's the what's the one? Who? Uh? They was married and they just broke up. Amon Yeah, yeah him, yeah, yeah he I think he was rapping. Yeah he was, and he he was. He was pretty good too, yeah yeah, because he was married to what's her name? I know, I'm looking right at her face. Oh yes, and so u. But yeah he was. He was really good. You no doubt? Okay, apparently I'm sorry not run our test medal World Peace. Oh yeah he was, I remember it. Yes, yeah, okay, okay, well that was was that decision that that was the ladies and your I'm with the beautiful. Lawrence and the beautiful beautiful Were. You ready for good news and news? Yeah? Yeah, I don't gonna get y'all some. All right. If you've used cash app in the past six years from either twenty eighteen through twenty twenty four, you might be eligible for two thousand, five hundred dollars as a part of the class action lawsuit. This settlement is related to security breaches on the app. The lawsuit filed in February. It claims that cash App Investing and its owner, Named Block, didn't do enough to address two data breaches, leaving app users vulnerable. The lawsuit also highlights that the breaches exposed sensitive information, including social security numbers. 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If you watch that show suits, you can just take a what is that screenshot? Who gonna say is wrong? Received? You know? But integrity matters. Okay. So this next story is a bluebell man who serves as a pass of a church here in Philadelphia at the met on North broad Street, has been convicted of sexual assaulting three children, Oh no good, including the rape of one. It took a Montgomery County jury just two and a half hours to deliver their verdict about Mark Hatcher, sixty year old pastor of Holy Ghost Headquarters in North Philadelphia. He showed no emotion as he was found guilty on all ten counts, including race, statutory sexual assault, and indecent assault of a child. One accuser, now twenty two, testified about three inappropriated encounters at Hatcher at Hatcher's home when he was six years old and seven years old, including a moment when Hatcher kissed him and touched him inappropriately. Another accuser shared that at age fifteen, Hatcher exposed himself and fondled her and then The third accuser described being taken to an unoccupied home in Philadelphia and was raped by Hatcher when she was thirteen. Hatcher's lawyer, Robert Gamberg, argued that the accusations were unprovable and suggested they were fabricated by the accusers. However, the prosecutor, Carolyn Goldstein countered questioning why any adult would willingly relieve such traumatic events unless they were true, noting that Hatcher used his position of trust to prey on them. Hatcher remains free on bail. He's awaiting sentence and has been ordered to surrender his passport and then avoid any contact with miners. It's just the fact that he was free on bail is bothering me. Yeah, they did, I mean two and a half hours. That's like no time. Jewelrys don't really do that fast. Yeah, and I guess their testimony is what, you know, made them make that decision. But it's just also when parents are allowing their children at that age, like the child went to you know, a household where nobody else was at. But you know, usually the parents have trusting these adults. Even if you think you can. Trust them, don't trust them around your children, you know, It's. Just that you're not going to be hurting anybody's feelings. The person on the other side should they should encourage it, you know what I mean, Like. It should be encouraged, all right. This last story is a Los Angeles County jury convicted Freddy Trom, forty two, on Wednesday, of orchestraing orchestrating the murder of rapper P and B Rock. So they did find who who was responsible for the death of Philadelphia's P and B Rock, sending it was basically the seventeen year old son to carry out the killing. So Freddy Trom's who's forty two sent his seventy two year olds us to carry out the killing of P and B. The crime took place in September of twenty twenty two at Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles in South Los Angeles, where the team shot and robbed P and B as he dined with the mother of his young daughter. Tron, the father who was found guilty of murder, robbery, and conspiracy, testified in his defense stating I had nothing to do with it, but the prosecution argued that was that he was deeply involved. Video evidence showed Tron near the restaurant just thirty minutes before the murder, which the prosecution claimed was no coincidence. Another man, Tremont Jones, was also convicted of robbery and conspiracy, but not murder. Tron's son is now nineteen and is being held in the juvenile system deemed incompetent to stand trial. They're saying that his mental competency proceedings are to take place on August twenty. Eighth, twenty twenty four. Wow, so I feel like the family may have gotten a little bit of closure, remember that word, a little bit, just to know that the justice system has at least involved themselves with. The killing a pan bag. Yeah, that right there. I remember when it happened, and it was just it was devastating, especially for you know, Philadelphia. And then you know all the work that he was doing. You remember his first song or I don't know if that was his very first song, but when he was talking about my city needs what was the name of it, my city needs love or something I can't remember, but he was like talking about I'm tired of yellow tape, I'm tired of Teddy Bears, and you know, just to see this happened to him it's just it's still hard, it's difficult. So my my prayers and heart goes out to the family. And a lot of these out of these killing senseless killings, and sometimes and I'm just gonna specifically say celebrities where I think it was what was his. Name, Dolphin? What was the vernant? Yeah, Dolphin. It's like they're senselessly killing because they're jealous. It's not even taking something from them, they're not even looking at them and humanizing them. It's somebody's father, somebody's child, somebody's brother, you know what I mean. It's just because you want what they got on swag or whoever they are, you know what I mean. It's just and this is senseless. That's across the world, but specifically because you're seeing them on TV or you're seeing them, you know, on social media, and you just you got that envy in your heart and you're taking a life as if it doesn't even matter. Here it is a forty two year old man. He's probably sent his son out because he knows he's a juvenile, which they're holding him in juvenile system and now deeming him incompetent. To stand trial. That's just where what a seventeen year old what what what did he use. His son to kill this man for it? Like it's crazy? So yeah, or even worse. The uh the the young man that was involved in the killing of no the other one, the one with the braids. He had the braids that came down. He was from New York. M hmm, I can't think of his name. That she liked the way to a dance. She like the Yeah, yeah, well his his killer was on the podcast talking about he didn't regret what he did and it was the family to hear that. It's just it's just horrible. Yeah that's true. Yeah, that's a little because yeah, yeah, yeah, just the way you're talking. Love. Well, that was your good news and your bad news from your girl classic Lady Sparkle. Wait, which one was good. Yet? The cash. I got to get twenty four dollar. You're getting it? Go found? Who getting it? Go found? Go? You know, the cash claim because you might have LIKETI somebody stole money on my account. Not that story sound good? But all right, Okay, the good part was that. You might be you might be. Thanks for clean. Cash Settlement website. For the next day. We talked weekly. After talking w P P M my P Philadelphia Want six penty five, and we talked these after talking with your boy Charles. And beautiful Florence is beautiful. And a beautiful Let me pull up my notes here because we had the opportunity to go to the Eggs Gritson presidential politics rally. As a tongue twister right there, Pennsylvania State Senator Shari Street passionately endorses Kamala Harris as the most qualified candidate for the presidency. Held at Penn Memorial Baptist Church in Philadelphia, this event brought together community leaders including Senator Vincent Hughes, Representative Morgan Cephis, and Council Member Curtis Jones Junior to galvan i support for Kamala Harris. Senator Street emphasized Kamala Harris's extensive experience for her role as district attorney in San Francisco to serving as Attorney General of California, a US Senator, and now a Vice President of the United States. He highlights her commitment to keeping communities safe, fighting for women's rights, and pushing for gun control. Watching this inspire in speech, we. Got this, we had we we was there, We was there, so I'm gonna play for you little some so I want you to watch this. Speech from Sariff Street. You can find the longer video on our channel. It'd be up maybe the night or maybe tomorrow morning. But I did pull this clip, so I'm gonna pull this up right now so you guys can see it. So kudos to what we do here. Will we talk weekly because we really be in Delm streets right and so let me pull this up real quick. Let me see if I can get it and make it bigger for y'all before I play this and here we go. Are you with her? I with her? I will tell you so we need to boo Kama. Harrison because she's the qualified person in this race. And yes, we wouldn't make history because. There's a boat out there getting it confused, because hey, hey. We only wanted to let her because she's gonna be the. First, because she's gonna be the first Black woman, the first Asian woman, the first South Asian woman. But the reality is she's the most qualified person. Requiress of greats trying for a seat time I has. We've got we talking about the issues that are failing us. Can we keep our community safe? Kama has a been a district attorney in the city of San Francisco. She learned how to keep burthan foreman eyed neighborhood groups likely Winfield Residents Association, people that know how to join the ground to keep neighborhoods, saying. Kama has served as the Attorney general for we take to California and I'm gonna give one thing to eat y'all. She held, but it's. Turning Jennifer State of California. She took on the opioid for groups, companies now people with bank pats walking barefoot across the border. That ain't how the drugs got here. She loved her with the october who was then Attorney General Josh Shapiro, and they took her the million of Aerican billionaires. The were American Oxie cottage and purposels and potment of the bite communities, and Broke had billions of dollars to communities. That's how she did this Attorney general. As a US Senator, she fought over woman's right to choose, and she tried to say to making sure that all of our rights, included. Go to rights were protected. And as the Vice President of the United States, she alone with President Biden, pushed forward some of the first gun control bills we've gotten through in over thirty years. Kama Harrison cutting a job, and we lived the other guy too. He took the great economy that brought Barack o'bama put together. Let's be clear, when he. Took over, Barack Obama gave him a great economy and he ran it into the ground. And then Joe Biden took a terrible economy with Kamla Harrison turning around. So now it's time for something. It's time for us to stand up for her like she's stood. Up for us. So we're gonna vote, because when we vote, we're gonna vote for Commy God bless all. Right there you haven't, ladies and gentlemen. So we were able to be in the place today, this earlier today, and so that footage will be out, the full video you'll see it tomorrow of everyone who actually were there and who spoke. But the house was pretty pecked. You know. Again, we can't endorse anyone here, you know, we're non partisan. But what I will say is I. Like the idea of him giving the facts right. And so if we're going to do anything. If you're going to vote for any particular party, any particular candidate, I won't tell you who to vote for, right, I won't have my finger at you. I won't you know, make you scared. I won't do anything. What I am going to do is tell you that you need to be performing your civic duty, period, point blank. In the story, I don't care who you vote for. Just vote for who you believe best represents your beliefs. It's that simple. But you need to vote. You need to vote. You need to vote, and so. You want to jump in on that, yeah, I mean you can go to well make sure that you are registered to vote. First and foremost, we do have a video up that talks about shout out to Kadida Kenner who sat down with us, and it talks about a plethora of voting information that's important to know before you head to the polls. So make sure you go to our YouTube and check that out. And I believe you can go to vote PA to check us see if you're registered, but we will have the information up on our website we talkweekly dot com, so you can also go there and just continue to keep up with what we're doing. Because We're going to keep you guys informed of all that's going on in the political landscape and voting, So make sure you guys keep it lot. There you go, There you go, class you lady, lady, Yes, Dot, y'all want to talk a little bit about vote before we let we step out. Just go vote, like you said earlier, vote exercise your rights. Don't assume, please don't assume. Go pull that lever, yeah. And try to vote on policies. Don't look at the person. It's almost like that show the Voice where you turn your back and you just hear them versus looking at them. Don't don't look at Trump, don't look at Kamala. Look at the policies, not the person, and. Vote according to what's better for you and your family. We haven't a nice place to end right there. I mean Gregory, the beautiful and the beautiful ladies. Beautiful and this is We talk weeklies after the talk on w PPMP Philadelphia one o six point five FM. We talked weeklies after the talk. Really appreciate you tuning in, Really appreciate you watching. Make sure you like, subscribe and share. Make sure you tune in next week where we have some more dynamic interviews, and what we'll be doing is our new round of having a lot of these politicians, people who are talking civics, people who are talking politics, and who are in support of what's going on as it relates to this political race. And so what we want to do now is continue to educate the people who are watching, who are watching our platform, who are like subscribing and following, because we appreciate you. So without further ado, we out here like last year, you'll a douces. Yep, please

