Year 2023 in Review

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, excited for the day y'all. M h m hmm. What's you excited about? Six excited because we're excited. We talk a week a year when rap up, were excited. That's what we're excited about, you know. And uh, we have a gem packed show for you to day. She'm excited. It's super super super you know, they call it super size. But we excited about the day, jam packed show. We got dynamic people in the building to day. You know, she Boy, Charles greg with the beautiful beautiful Lady and my gosh man yeah yeah, yeah, no thought, Joy and Travis is definitely in the building and day. This is our year and wrap up and so this is something we do every year and talk about some of the things that stood out for us this year. There's a lot of things that stood out for us this year. And you know, we got pop culture, we have music, we have special events, we have good news, bad news, we got the Sizzles, shit got we got some you know everything everything. Even if we got some byamic people, who's going to tune in today? So I'm sooper excited about that. But you know, before I do anything and we go on anything, you know, I gotta ask you, Spiker, how was your day? I was your day? I'm ready for vacation. I want somewhere warm, I want to be on something some white saying, I am I'm just I think I'm in I really feel like I'm in a fault. I don't know. I don't know if everybody agree with it. I agree. Okay, So twisted on it today and it's our year in red bubb instead to ask him, how was your day? How was your year? How was twenty twenty? There you go. I like that. I like the question. The last time you're gonna ask this question this year twenty twenty three. I'll manage to put the person that I went to her portal is almost the year, and that that's basically going to remember this year. So that's why I did the kid. So you're hot. So we're viting the d you know, we did the fishing quick. Very true? Yeah, very true? How was y starts? Now what you said you about? I'm trying let's think about anything. It's the capital that happened. You heard it. I'm like, oh, that's gonna make you remember twenty twenty three. Question like that happened this year? I can say, you're gonna make me remember twenty twenty three other than me getting told for a second thing. Okay, that's that's that's Oh no, wait a minute. I went to Almost Died, and those that I probably the Grove story Bridge story. I went on the girls trip and they Groves trip was seven my girls, and we decided, you know, on the beach's drinking all day, and so we decided they had this bright idea to go out on this one of them banana boat things. It was like, so they take you on the boat across the ocean to another boat, and I turned to another beach, right, and so we left the second beach and now on the boat that we went over, and it's just like pulling you right, and it's like, wow, it's a crazy ride, right. The thing was sitting on all kind of ways. So I took them for the team. I was like, all right, I got it on the back and the girl next to me was freaking out. She was crying, she was all scared. So she kept like leaning like tried to hold them and I was like, listen, they have us on these on these you know, staggered like this went inside the balance said you lean on me like you don you know you're gonna make me fall off. Well, he did this crazy turn and I went over the side and the lady and they all way in the front with him. So because I was in the back. Long story short, I fell off, they didn't know I fell off going. Oh I'm drop drop dropped. So you know you you fall naturally, damn you know you you know. Come So I'm like, I'm just wait until I come to the back to the surface. I started looking around. I see the boat. It's going full steam away from me. They didn't even know I was going. A little while later they did in the front. I want to go. She fell off, so they stopped the boat. He saw her, so he cut the engine off and stopped so they can get her back on. It was when they he cut his engine off that one of the girls on the boats that they heard like the faint scream in the back, and she turned around and looked and realized I was going to get so you know that was all right? You can swim exactly. I was. I was snapping and girl like, So you was lady in the water, you was, you was lady in the water, scared I'm drowning. I was scared that something was going to come. Yeah, you know, I'm just in the water, just until in the middle of that. Sure, I know what, I didn't get a tea my life reserve, that's right, lay in the water. Yeah, fellas, what about your highlight, man? Man? Listen, man, I went Look the first time in my age, man, I went to Disney. So I'm going to Disney for eleventh birthday. And we spent a whole week there and I'm telling you, you know, in spite of the long lines and all the walking, man, it was the I had the time of my life. I don't know. I kept hearing people say that this. They said, look, go because it's not just for adults. I'm telling me, for kids. You're just gonna have a good time. And I'm like, man, I'm not trying to just finished this. I went there and I had the time of my life and creators and just the whole experience. But you don't even realize if you're standing in some of the lines for an hour and a half, until they keep you amazed and mar we keep you entertained the whole time, y'all waiting to get on the rids and so it was you know, I enjoyed myself that Yeah, absolutely, I am man. Me and my daughter had a good time the water, no more phone. I was pulling her, I was pulling her from the ride. I'm like, let's get on this. Let's get on this. Everybody stay on the boat and stay afloat. We have fun, a good time. What about you, bro, listen, man, I haven't I wasn't fortunate enough to build it up on that trip. Yeah, I was here learning how to tap dance. Yeah, because we did. We finally got a chance to to put that work in on the Gregory Hind film. So yeah, we finally finished that and you know we got that out streaming in uh the festival circuit now and you know, I make sure everybody gets a chance to check it out. But yeah, it was a it was an adventure, man, So I am. I am a partial tap dancer with some good camera work. Yeah, it was a good film, definitely, definitely. Yeah. Yeah, happy ain't nothing, it ain't nothing better than Yeah. So yeah, that was great, man, listen onward stop. So let's let's start right yours. Yeah, how was your I know, right busy, it's busy twenty twenty, Flourid were going, Allen, we're not stopping. We're not stopping to all of us say that, but I think you got a uh really amplifying steps. Take the next step from where you were last year, right, otherwise you running in place? That's exactly what's right show this year? You ain't talking about that. Oh yeah, I did do the first ship. I know you did. Yes, you did. I heard trail was there. I heard them guys was there. It was the difference, you know, the metaverse, metaverse, So you know from years? So what we got playing for this ship? I don't know. We gotta do something bigger, right, might not be a fast show, might be a TV show, who knows, right? You know? So well we got some things playing. Absolutely the chill, so kudos because everybody even played the part. Yeah it was a great show. Yeah, doubtiate your you know absolutely. So you know what, let's let's start there with the brothers. Why don't y'all tell me kind of like your top five of twenty twenty three, give us someone there, yep, top five? What was of twenty twenty three? What was what stood off for y'all time? Five moments? See that we had we got to talk about film stuff, man, like the strikes, and then they don't they don't want to pay people, and you know, like that was that was that was a huge thing. And it's just like, you know, you look at some of the a loose actors who are on TV or their you know, making their videos, like Terrence Howard and like, yeah, I only made one hundred thousand dollars for this film, and I'm like what, I'm like, it's just I'm mad they came off strike. Man. It was the perfect opportunity for indie filmmaker to take over. Ye And I was mad they say they came off strike. That was a window. Look a window. It's just crazy to hear how they you know, they treat these people, man, and you know they're here pretty much doing the job. And and you know, you got somebody making ten million dollars and somebody making a hundred thousand dollars and it was like, I don't know, I don't understand how that happens. And then the unions are just like not you know, you being unions, you know what I mean? So you know what, and we're gonna talk about that because I want you to hold that stuff. We got someone with them. I have a tremendous amount of respectful Big Sleeps is definitely in the building, man, And you know we can talk a little bit about like what's going on with this strike you and what's going on with like the because ters how was on talking about the insiduals? We had someone else talking about he literally make what is that? Indy nominated? And you grew up winner and only making six cents of royalty checks? What's that about? Sometimes? Sleeps? What's up? My brother? Canme you here with crazy? I can hear? Yeah, yeah, what's going on? I thought I was still back stage. I'm sitting here like that right doing Now what's going on? So? How was how you been? My brother? That's how you're going to start. How have you been? How have you been? We missed you, bro, I've been good. I've been good. I feel like maybe I lost a little bit of my headline. I looked like I moved my forehead. But I mean I've been good man. As I heard both brothers talking earlier about the films strike, that that kind I heard a lot of people that was you know, I know people who lost home, their homes and things like that. That's definitely one of my top five. But I mean, I feel good, man. It also opened up doors for me to be able to do my own production company stuff, have the time to do it, you know, writing, And I'm sure you got questions. So I don't want to keep going and start just give you everything all that want, not for sure, because I'm gonna have you give us, you know, your top five, you know, but I do want to, you know, continue the conversation with the brothers, you know, in terms of you know, the strike thing, and you know how how have you seen it impact not only you but kind of your friends because you guys in the industry as well as well as my god Big sleeps here, and you know, I'd like to know a little bit more about that. You know, I heard officially we're over though, right supposedly, right, yeah, January, you know, you like January February probably when most productions will get back up, because it don't make sense to start really unless you're blackout right now, yeah, unless you had somewhere you're like, well, we owe the network this product, We got to get help. It makes more sense to start the new year and start fresh, correct, Absolutely, no doubt, no doubt. And so how do you think you know, this is asking you know, all of you guys, what do you think we could do to prevent something like this from happening again? You know, the writers seem to always go on strike, you know, every now and then, right, you know, it seems like the writers did the strike. But you know, in terms of the actors, that was something big, right, And I like the camaraderie that you know, some of the actors was like, no, the writers on strike, We on strike too, right, And so that was big. So you know, what do you think we can do to prevent that? You know, I don't even know if it's anything we can do to prevent it. You know, the reality is just when you're talking about unions, and I would love to hear you know, all three of our perspectives on that. It's just that unions need to be unions, and you know they're when they're not actually you know, defending their members and actually making sure that their members are getting what. You know, you're taking my dudes. If you're taking my dudes, there should be no question about anything going on with my future. There should be no reason for me to strike you are taking money from me, and now you're preventing me from making money because we now we're striking. So I just I don't even know if there's any way to prevent that. But like you said, it's gotta be some you know, some camaraderie. Yeah, you know, the writer strike. We're going to strike. Where's the good material coming from? If we don't have any writers, act won't strike anyway. If anybody writing with your act, that's right. Well, but I was going to say that, so I mean they're saying too like, yo, okay, well if you don't want right, then y'all can do something right the part. But what they were, I mean, you know, i'm the you know, I don't want to get too far off topic, but i'm the vice president of the union, and I can tell you I understand what he's saying. But it's easier said than done because the union, who we're up against, always has more power and money than us, so it's hard. It's hard to combat it. I mean, we do the best, We really do, do the best we can in situations to represent our members, but you can only fight us so much. When people got money and power, man, they could they can wait you out, for lack of a better term, they can say, look, we can stand and take this. Like like you mentioned, people were losing things, losing their homes in the studios, weren't losing anything. You know, it's no pressure on them. People were mad at them, but there's no pressure on them to make a move. So it's hard if you don't have the money and the power, it's hard to win them battle. But we still got to stand firm. But yeah, it's rough man, Yeah so sleeps. What can we do my brother? How can we prevent that? You know, we always talk about solutions, So how can we fix this issue, this problem with my brother? Well, for me, I'm also I'm a writer, I'm an actor. I've just got in producing. So i had to look at it from all perspectives because I'm against myself at some points when it comes down from the producing ad. I'm against myself when it comes from the actor's side trying to figure out what to do with as a producer, and then from the writing side. You got to look at from this perspective, the writers, if it starts there, to be honest with you, then comes to the money with the producers and I mean when you look at what they were kind of fighting for, you talk about streaming even change the game, like they want to pay your meal money. And then you think about it, they want you to write pretty much. You know from a understanding, they want you to write the whole series all at once. So you're not even getting the time, the hours, you're not even putting in the money that goes into your pension plan. There's a lot of different things and the levels that go with that. So from the writer's perspective, you think of inflation, you think of like, yo, I remember back bying, like you know, twenty five cent like juice and twenty five cent potato chips back in the day. You know what I'm saying. Times have changed, and if you don't move with times, people are going to start going like there's going to be pushed back. Then. As far as with the actors go, it's like, hell we have like as an actor is like we go out there, we literally get as you're starting out happy meal money until you've got that machine in that team behind you to really put a price and a dollar sign behind like what your worth is. So you think of all these dudes getting paid twenty seven million dollars to tell everybody what's going to come out next year and what's greenlit. And you think about it really, when you really think about it, and that people were saying, like, if everybody gave up a few million dollars at the top, we wouldn't be having this conversation, right, exactly, be happy, right, But when you look at the AI aspect of it, I've been working on trying to build my own AI platforms and when you when you think of how crazy and how fast AI moves, and then you add that to film, bro, Like, the scary thing about it is as sooner or later it takes just a few people to say, yeah, you can take my likeness or whatever. And then if you don't read your contact, your contract properly, what if they say, oh, we're gonna use your likeness and if there's a trilogy and blah blah blah, they're word it to the point where they'll give you a certain amount of money they make the trilogy and they're just using your likeness. And it's AI actively, you know what I'm saying. Make people younger. Y'all saw what we did with the Narrow like you made them little young as hell. Right, So AI is a peace and people don't realize how how scary it's going to be, like if you don't understand, and you're gonna lose out if you have a job, because we've been using AI for decades and not even realizing it the moment you say you're done, right, no, no, So all right, you know, I think that's one of the things that a lot of people don't know and understand. You know, that conversation about AI is across the board, right, We're not just talking about movies. We're talking about arts and culture. We're talking about if we're talking about even we can talk about criminal justice, right, we can talk about high schools and schools, we can talk about grocery stores, we can talk about everything. And one thing that I had the opportunity and this gentleman with whom I have a tremendous amount of respect for, mister Sean Marin, he's in we're about to bring him on. But we just did a phenomenal conference, so to speak. In part of that conversation or a piece of that conversation was you know, arts and AI right, and journalism, right, which is something that will impact even safe example, editorial newspapers and maybe people who's writing the journalist who's writing for that right? And so the question then becomes that this is too much of a support right for people to get rid of it. So it's kind of like either get on, get on it, be a part of it, or get left correct right? And so what do you do in that manner? Respect? And so while we're on that topic, we have someone with through my have a tremendous amount of respect for classy lady. Who do we have today? Who do we have today? Today? We have Shawn Maury, the head of Philadelphia's programs for the Lynfest Institute for Journalism and a friend of the show. So let's give a warm we talk weekly. Welcome to show, Mouryo, how are you? How are you? I'm well, I'm well. How are you fantastic? We're good, We're great. Appreciate you for coming on the show. I mean, you hear the conversation let's start there. You hear the conversation about you know, AI just in in everything pretty much. You can't take it out anything. What's your what's your perspective, your thought as it relates to especially the scope that you're in right, the field that you're in AI, and what can we do with it or without it, or what should we do about it? Well, I mean, I think it's it's as we discussed at the at the summit, it depends on how people use it. It's something as William was saying, you know, it's it's been around forever, you know, like as an autocreat correct in the way that you know it. So AI has always been there. And if it can be an assistance to right, but to the extent that it replaces. And I think we have to be really careful with misinformation and disinformation and the deep fakes and and all of that, and so I mean, I think it just has to be a tool that can be used responsibly and not people just kind of go away and let it run off and do their jobs for them. We can't do that right or replace you know, what people are doing and how they're contributing. So I think it just has to be used as a tool and done responsibly. Yea, oh for sure, for sure. And while we're while we're at it, while we jump right into the reason why you're here today, why don't you give us your top you know, I guess interest in fags or issues or things that happen in twenty twenty three. What is that for you? Well, I mean, I guess for me just thinking about the work that we've done at Lenfest was definitely one of the high points was Every Voice, Every Vote initiative that was focusing on civic engagement and working with folks leading up to the municipal elections. And you know how we were able to engage you know, over you know, one hundred or so partners in community and media, giving amplifying all voices in Philadelphia for this initiative and making sure that it wasn't just the usual suspects. I think that you know, collaboration, we were able to you know, bring folks together and we talked weekly, you know, did live streaming with w r D and with several of the other partners that we had, and I just thought it was an amazing initiative and looking forward to the next phase of it will be launching in twenty twenty four. Fantastic. But we were excited about it. You know, we want to you know, we always say we definitely appreciate you know, you and a Lymphus for you know, just support, not even with just we talked weekly, but supporting the arts and supporting people like us because I think, you know, when we talk about you know who's truly and this is no hit to anyone, but you know who's truly doing the work right. And I think oftentimes, you know, smaller platforms get looked over because you know, legacy media has a bigger voice, right, and it's not necessarily their fault, right, I mean, they have the tools in support to do so. But you know, I think, you know, smaller platforms are now finding a way to kind of slip through there and say, hey, look at us, we're hair So we appreciate you guys for you know, looking at us and supporting us with that, you know, and so as it relates to you know, some other things just in you know, in the world today. You know, what do you think is a how can we say, a noticeable moment or something that's worth mentioning that you know, you you started from twenty twenty two moving into twenty twenty three, that you're like, yo, I got a hot like this even with family, you know, because one thing that a lot of people don't know about you that I know is that you know, your sons and you are kind of like a sneakerhead, right, you know, and so that's a good that was interesting, you know fact as they say, a Snapple fact as it relates to you when getting no friends, you know. So what else is you know, exciting that you can remember from last year, well this year now, but in a couple of weeks next year, right, Yeah, So I mean it's been a really exciting you know time, you know, some transition in my life and got a new home, moved and definitely have increased my shoe gain, you know, trying to keep up with silence, mister Charles Gregory, you know, definitely something I share with my oldest son, who was by far a huge sneaker head. And so you know, just enjoying enjoying life right and making sure that you're spending time with you know, family and friends. Like I said, moved into a new house, had like twenty people over for Thanksgiving, you know, just just family. So I just think it's important, you know, now more than ever right to appreciate what you have and make sure that you are investing time right. There's nothing more important than the time that you to spend something that you can't get back right, and so to use it wisely and that you just continue to do that. And so I've enjoyed spending time with my kids right there now, twenty and twenty three. My oldest just turned twenty three yesterday. So I think that, you know, you have to make sure that you are spending time and doing spending doing those types of things, just enjoying your family and enjoying your life. Fantastic. You said you had twenty people over. That must be a pretty big help. We gotta have we talk. We have all the spaces, Yeah, we talk weekly. Event how big the house was? I had twenty Yeah, that's that's some space. Okay, my table seats twenty about that's funny. That's funny. And so you know, before we let you go, and like we say on these shows, you're more than welcome to thing on this is. This is our year wrap up, and so we love to bring all the friends we talked weekly here to talk about you know, what happened in the year. What would be your New years And I say, no New Year's resolution, It should be already right, but I'm gonna say it anyway. What would be your New Year's resolution for twenty twenty four. Well, I don't know that it's anything different, right, I'm excited about being able to double down and continue the work that we do. So we got introduced to you in your work through the Philadelphia Media Founders Exchange, and so we did. And then last year, which was our second you came on as a mentor and giving back to the newer media entrepreneurs and we are coming back with another iteration of that in twenty twenty four. So I'm excited about that. And so just continuing to I think, really double down and invest in and you know, show that support for all of our media makers, whether their folks working in legacy newspapers or media outlets or folks that are in the community. You know, just getting and continuing to put that support out there and help folks grind it out. Yeah, fantastic, fantastic. You know. One of the things that we say, and it's the naxt question. Actually I got two more because I don't think I did this with you yet. But when it comes to people out there, you know, we talk about solutions and how can we fix some of the issues that's out there. And one of the things are heiring words from people of prominence or heiring. You know that that good you know, a position of what you can do. Or here's a good word for you to leave with. And so I'll start there. What's give us? What would you say to that, to that person that needs to be uplifted, that needs to maybe pivot in their life or moving to twenty twenty four, what would you say to that person? Yeah, I would say, always trust your gut. You know that you have to believe in yourself and even when it you know you can't always put all the pieces together. Just know that you surround yourself with the right type of people. You know, make sure that you continue to put the work in and you know, don't be discouraged, right that you have to continue to fight the good fight. And as long as you're doing the work and like legitimately doing it right, you know not you know, sometimes you gotta get up at six in the morning, right, you gotta get up at five in the morning. You gotta grind and do the work right. And if you do the work and you're surrounding yourself with the right folks, that it will come to pass fantastic. Now I'm gonna leave you with this, my friend, are you more than welcome to stay on after this? But this is my last question for you. This is a curveball that I thought everyone, what's the one thing that no one else knows about you? Right? All that stuff you've been stuffing, right, don't one knows? Right? What's the one thing no one else knows about you that you could tell? We talked weekly today that no one knows about me. I'm an open book, brother. They all say, yeah, I don't know that I have. I don't know. I guess you know, my my my latest you know, not vice, but but I guess I've gotten into it was a covid thing. Whiskey and cigars is my thing these days, so you know, I enjoy a nice cigar and you know, some a little bit of brown crown apple round apples. Here. I'm trying to get into some of these speakers. Phillies got a whole like speakeasy coaches. Yeah, underground, we got some plugs for you. Trust. Okay, there, but there you have it, ladies and gentlemen. Mister Sean Murray, my friend, listen, I tell you continue, continue, continue through all of the great things that you have been doing. For the community, for the people. I mean you're what you're doing and just acknowledging people like us is huge, my friend, and it's changing lives. So I commend you for that, and you keep doing what you're doing. We love and appreciate you, my brother. And as we say to everyone, man, once you come to the show, you're a friend to the show, so you're always welcome to come back. We'll do, we'll do y'all. Take it ease. Have a good night, no doubt. Yeah, sorry, good night today. You have it, mister Sean moouring ladies and gentlemen. All right, so there we have it. Uh uh yeah, so we we we we have big sleeps, you know, my god. You know, let's talk a little bit about you, my friend, and you know, on what you have and what you've been doing for the past you know, twenty twenty three. Give me your top, you know, interest and tell everyone you know some of the amazing things that you have done. Because I don't think every see you're a friend to the show, so you like you like a brother to me, you know. But you know, I don't think everyone knows just who you are and what you do and what you have done. So why don't you give everyone a bit of a resume and then talk about some of the things that you're doing now. And following that, which is, I know a lot of questions, but following that, why don't you give us your top? You know five of twenty twenty three? We don't hear you, my friend, you want mute? Sorry, I'm just at I'm at the Hollywood North, so I have to view people try to walk by and get in the door. But yeah, one of the big things about myself is I'm I'm a kidney recipient since twenty sixteen, so I do advocate for the Kidney Foundation as well. So that's one of the things is as like day in my heart when you see these kids. I mean, I'm an adult, I'm an adult, but I mean when you see these kids and I know what they're going through and I know how hard is. So that's something that's really did in my heart as far as one of the things I really do advocate for. And then another thing about what I what I was doing in twenty twenty three is I realized that you know, acting is great. I love it. As a creative you get to be able to spread your wings and do a lot of other things, but the most important thing for me was is like it's hard to work with other people. So I was like, you know what, let's work work with your friends that have the same hat on as you do and the same motivation as you do. Pretty much your goals aligned because you can continue to move forward. And that was the big thing for me, and stop to stop spreading myself. Then I think it's very important, like especially even just as black men is like as we work and we build together, like there's there's there's a history of understanding of what it takes to move forward. You know. My mother always said to me, and it was you know, she's always a West Indian, the Grenadian. It was one thing she always said to me, there's always two strikes against us and the one you're black. Number two you're black. So you need you need to make sure that you go ahead and move forward and think before you make moves. And a lot of times, you know, people get passionate about stuff. So I've been trying to just more chill right, look at things, don't get excited, you know about like just because you had a conversation with somebody and they telling you one thing. Now on a contract sign We'll figure it out. You know, I want to do a lot more stronger roles as far as you know, I think I'm funny, but I can't act as well. So the acting is what got me to the roles and be funny because it was a surprise for people. But that's another thing that I want to do is I want to have bigger roles. I really just want to work with my friends. You know, you watch you see like guys except Rogan, who look out for me whenever the film is something out here and and when you look at Adam Sandler, their formula works. Work with your friends works. Man sleep, Where did you say you are? Right now? I'm in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, but it's called the Hollywood North International National Film Festival, so it starts shortly. But I was like, well, I'm doing we Talk, So yeah, I've been green room. I gotta tell my phone and quin the Wi FI. And that's another thing I want to get involved with. More film festivals, more film festivals. I was part of putting together and pushing the Vancouver International Black Film Festival, and then this one was a couple of weeks apart, My boy Dean Redmond and Mike dupon He's Up. Mike played Jason on Power. The white dude who played Jason on Power leads into go once again, working with my friends because you know, the power always in numbers, and people are gonna be honest with you. And that's the one thing. I mean. People like to see me in the street, recognize me, and they'll say, oh, my mind, you're amazing. I'm like, bro, do you know how angry I am right now? Like do you know the day I had? But I appreciate you. So it's working with your friends and you'll get that honesty and you'll be able to kind of just be able to breathe and just not even get anger. I'm not an angry rod Rob person, so I want to keep it that way for sure. For sure, I'm honest with Trail all the time. But look, you know, see this is the thing when it comes to Sleeps, right, this is my guy. He's humble. But I just want to go over a couple of shoes that he has done. The show, Game Over Man, Coco, Blue Arrow, Good Boys, The Murder Look, the Murders, Bloody Money Family, Bachelor Daddy's genesis Cold Cloud Vin one of my favorite coffee in Kareem. He killed it on that torn grilled chicken cloud VN behind it and I was only a couple of them, but you know, I just had to shout you out my people, like keep going. I see I said he didn't work with Steven Sagall here? How was that? How was working with Stephen? You know? I mean it was great working with Steven man Uh a lot of times where he didn't really remember my name, so he called me slurpey. Now He's like, I mean, but Stephen is like, he gave me my first real opportunity as a league. So I you know, I joke around because Stephen actually has a sense of human He might always look mad and all that, but yeah, right, y'all. Remember that one time when Anderson Silvan did that front kick and and not do it out So we were on set. Stephen goes, hey, Slurpey, you want to go to the UFC. You want to watch the UFC? And I was like, now, I'm watching the UFC with my boys this weekend. Man, thanks for everybody, but I'm gonna watching with him my Boston. But he kind of looked at me like, what's all right when you enjoy? Man? He leaves, we have lost the peach watching the fight. He walking down to the rig with Steve's I mean, and I'm sitting there like, did he mean so I see my on Monday? I'm like, Stephen, you didn't tell me you were going to the USC goes hey, Man, I told you I was going to ask did you wanted to come? You said you were going to watch it that some pizza place. So he was a good dude to me. Man, but with Stephen, but he's a good dude. Your face and walk and they had screwed up my order too, So I was like, man, Big sleep is definitely in the building. And one thing I didn't say, Big Sleeps is of one of our guests co hosts today, so he will be holding on. He better hold on with the time because we're walking in at the first award trying to get to my seat. I'm gonna be back packed now, so you whenever you gotta leave, we totally understand. This is a long shoulder no no, no, no, no, no no no, no. Whatever I say it is, I'm staying to the end. And then I'll make my way inside, and yeah, I figure the rest out I just got. How is it. Let's talk about the weather over there. How's the weather over there? It's very cool if you think of Seattle. Yeah, it's pretty mouth the same. It's like it's raining sometimes cloudy, but it's beautiful out here. We've got the mountains. When it's sunny, it is beautiful. But you know, the weather itself. Like we started getting a little bit more store lately. Before that was like snow. Like I had a triple fat Gucci because I'm from New York, so I was used to boost down brow. I start getting swelled underneath my breasts and all that I can't face. I understand. I think about Seattle all the time, you see me. Sure he traveled definitely in the building, yeah, man, And like I said, they're here for the long haul with us. Man. They are our guest call hosts for this evening, you know, So we appreciate y'all coming in. So you know what y'all got for What kind of questions y'all have for sleeps y'all, y'all definitely in the same kind of genre, y'all doing the same things we got, Hey, bro, we gotta do. We gotta do a movie man where we all come on sleep man, Let's get it. Let's get it for sure. I'm down, I'm down, I'm down. Hold on, he said we were all in it. I'd be one of the hosts of somebody something. Just sleeping twins, just writing. We talked right there. We're writing the scene where we talk himself. That's right. He's done that scene thirty times. That ain't high. He's gonna keep getting by man. We're gonna have to get him to real work for sure. Mh you take the check. Yeah, I mean, I'm from open book. So I got a question as far as like acquiring a good agent, is that, in your opinion, is how far can you go without one? And what is the best way to get it? To acquire a good agent? I think it looked like most people you start without one, you know, lucky to draw is grinding. It's that kind of like putting yourself in the right place at the right time until you you know. It's gonna take a few you know, you know, a few bookings without an agent before you before somebody looked at you. Unless you got a look or you've done you know you could do some sides and show them what you what your skills are, and you know, you show your resume or I did drama, I did this, I did that. But I think that you know, if you're looking for a good agent, you know, it's it's no different from acting class auditorm go to like I'm six of them, Like let them know your thoughts, listen to them like it's a relationship whether you like it or not. You know what I'm saying. They don't work for you and you don't work for them. It's a relationship. It's fifty to fifty. If you don't go out there and you don't do your best when it goes to an audition, they can't keep continuously pushing you or book you. So don't wait on your agent, Like see, I don't. I don't want to put this out there. I really like to keep this close to my heart. But I feel as the year is going ending down and we talk, I'm gonna give you a little bit of a little gem that's done seriously, a bit that I do and built this relationship with my agent. I have my I've had my agent since I think eight oh nine eight eight o seven to eight, two thousand and seven, two eight. It's because I pick up the phone and I call her, not just for film and television. I call her to say what's up? How you feeling. It's like I call I called her Monday, Wednesday, Friday, because you know what, at the beginning of the week, Yo, if something comes through your desk, how you doing come Wednesday? How you been? Like? Yo, just the rest of my schedule for the rest of the week. If you've got something, send me. I don't care, Like I don't care if it's is Asian American mail. I want to go in and I want to be like in that room. And it worked me on Fear walking Dead. So I build a relationship with an agent, tell them you know, hey, you know what I mean. I love doing comedy and I love that, but I you know, I was speaking with my agent and I was like, hey, you know what, I want to get back into the gritty stuff. I want to get back into like the meat and potatoes. You know, you already know I have to do the funny stuff. So let's do the funniest and like kill him. I'll do five ten auditions a week. It's in me like this is what I want to do. So you have to build a relationship with your agent. And I feel like funny. My brother and I had a funny story like that, yuh agent that we no longer had. She actually booked a reading for a film with Adam Driver called Patterson, and it was the role was for an Asian male and a blackmail but my brother was the person who was actually going to read for the role and for some reason or another, this Asian male didn't show up, so they needed somebody to read with them. So I'm here with him. I read with them, and we read it. We actually got the role and they cho the whole screen. It wasn't even even written for change the screen. They changed, made the twin rolls and yeah, it was funny. Man. Adam was great to work with, and you know, so I can appreciate that story. Like you said, if it's something that may not fit you, just go anywhere, go anyway. And the key thing for me and what I say to people is just remember you control your own destiny, like go with your gut. If people say, hey, man, I don't know if you're gonna do that, even when you're investing, even when you're investing something. If you tell somebody and you're passionate about something and they're like, man, I don't know, I wouldn't do that. It's because you wouldn't do that. I'm gonna do it. Yeah, because it out you're not hearing what I'm saying, like I'm doing it. I'm just asking your opinion. But I see where you're coming from. Because something that you don't feel comfortable doing, right, I'm gonna do it. So just go ahead and find find the person that fits you. And it's it's business. Go go somewhere else if you ain't happy, for sure. And it's interesting you said that we've been through about four agents, but like you said, yeah, and you know, and and the reason was because we didn't we didn't feel like it was a you know, a relationship and a connection. So we're like, we're going to go find another. I want to be like as right, yeah, yep right, totally Remember their birthday, remember mother's day, like Christmas. You know what I'm saying, because it's you think of all the bread that's been putting your pocket, like for real, like put all the bread that's been putting in your pocket, and they might be taking their their their their their, you know percentage, A lot of times that money goes to keeping the office open social. So if you want to build a relationship for somebody where you're like, wow, they actually care about me, I call her, I call my agent rock saying kids, and I call her mom like real like I'm not going nowhere to be my agent father. Ye stuff. Appreciate that. Thank you love. Yeah, that's big, that's big. You know what I got it. I gotta shout you out though for uh brother, brother, and I'm just looking at because I you know, I went through the rabbit hole. You mentioned fear to Walking Dead, which is one of my favorite shows, bro, when you was in that and Van helsing one of my favorite Listen, my brother, you keep doing what you're doing. Man. You know we love you over here. We appreciate anything that's going on. You already know you know, Yeah, I mean I appreciate it. Man. I think I've just been blessed and lucky a lot of times. But you know, I do put into work. You know, I think a lot of people forget. It's like, you know, it's like sports, Rex and Touches, like we've all even as actors. I know both of y'all played sports at some point. You know what I'm saying. You gotta go on with that same energy. I go onto it like like I've already booked it. I don't even have I don't even get nervous. This is me in the this move when we used to do it, absolute nice. I close my eyes. I got my hat over my face and I'm relaxed. My feet is stretched out. You gotta walk over my feet. I found my place. I apologize, but I'm here to focus and I get up. I'm moving slow. I go in the room, I take my hat up. I always wear a hat because I empty all my pockets. There's a little trick that I do so you can always talk to the director. You got more time, hey man, you city see now. I gave everybody my little tricks for what it is. But that's just who I am. When it works for me to find your knees, that works for you. Remember when you're in the room, take your time. Don't be nervous. Don't even stand. I do not stand on the accents until I'm comfortable. Are you ready to go? Not yet? Let me just turn around. I turn around. I'll just run the lines like this is my time. You know what you What you said strikes home, especially for this gentleman with whom I have a tremendous moude of respect for. That's here right now, you know, my guy, classy lady, tell us who do we have today? Who do we have today? Our next guest? Today? We got you shot Aside a creative, lyrical and insightful storyteller, vocalist and with over twenty years of experience and writing and recording music. Y'all already know what to do. Give a warn we talk weekly. Welcome shot Aside. Yeah, hey, great, Hey, my god, my guy, how are you my friend? Super blushed? Are you feeling I'm good, I'm good. You know, before we do anything, because you was on the show before, man, and you know, it's good to see these gentlemen right here for change right there's doing some positive work. And I say that as a you know, a great transition for you to talk about where you are right now when something that you're doing that I said, you know what, you have to tell us what you're doing so we can amplify that. Holl at me, my brother. Yeah. So I am a partner at a business call the District Creative Institute on H Street, the historic corridor of H Street, Northeast DC. I'm a partner with my partner Rojie Rankins, who is the executive director of a company called So and Sowing Opportunities Never Ending. And today we're actually doing a toy drive slash holiday party. So we turned out holiday party into a toy drive. It's downstairs right now. I'm in the in the upper floor of our building on a street. But we are gathering toys, collecting toys today, wrapping those toys on Thursday, and then passing them out to families in the district or in the DMV next Saturday while supplies last. So just you know, us doing our good will and putting our best foot forward to impact the community with all of our resources. Fantastic, fantastic. Can we see something? I see you got a blurd? Is that blur for a reason or can we see what's going on in the background. I mean, I'm up in the office right now. I can take y'all downstairs. We want to see it. We want to look man, we want to amplify what you're doing over in that good work for them kids, for them, babies, man, because we let them babies. You know it's gonna be loud, but you you're staying on with us for a while, right, Yeah, yeah, we'll be here. I'm gonna take out thewnstairs. Then we go take that getting it in there. You go. Look at that got the photo booth and a book toys. You look at that man music right in the background there you go. So you know, we we thought we we wanted to do in and you know, we always transparent to you know, I guess and everyone who's watching, and we have a few guests that's on. You know, we always say, you know, you know, we're transparent here when we talk weekly. But the one thing we love is our babies. Man. We love you know, our people. We like to amplify the good work that's people doing, because you know what generally happens, especially people who look like us, they always amplify the negative stuff. Right, you know, we robbing, killing, shooting in jail. Right, but we're doing some amazing stuff also, right, And so why don't you just elaborate a little bit more what you're doing today so everyone knows. And what I said to his agent, right, his publiciers, is that yo, what we're going to do because like everyone who's coming up, right, we only had them on for ten minutes, right, everybody get a little ten minutes slot. But we said that, you know what, leave them up. Let everybody see what he's doing. He go back and forth, and we keep it up, and we go ahead and salute you. My friends will tell us elaborate tell of people what's going on today. Yeah, so I mean once again, I'm a partner of this building. DC Audition Creative The District Creative Institute is a art incubation space that we're building here in DC when all of the renovations are donecause you're still in renovation phase. We will have a music studio, podcast studio, content creation studio, art gallery, workforce development training space, and a clothing manufacturing center all in one building. And our hope is to to bridge the gap for DC creatives between their creative work and their economic stability, so that people in DC don't feel like they need to leave to make it right. This is one of the most powerful cities in the world, so we want to help the residents who grow up here, the creatives who grow up here, who work here, who play here, know that you can navigate, you can navigate your craft in a way which you can make it in the city. All right, there's too many resources, there's a lot of money, there's a lot of funding for creatives, and so we're just trying to bridge that gap for them today. We part of what we're doing is we're having our holiday party just to celebrate our year, the success of the year that we've had. But your entrance into this holiday party is a toy So it's a toy drive holiday party, utilizing the toys that we gathered today to help some families who could use it next week. Fantastic, fantastic. We at the top of the hour, Uh, just real quick, this is we talket weeklies after the Talk on w p P m l P Philadelphia one on six point five of them. We talked weeklies after the Talk with your boy Charles Gregen and beautiful beautiful and my Gods yeah yeah, yeah, yeay, and my other god, what's good sleeps sleeps in the buildings for you should If that's okay, go ahead, brother, your host, you should just listening. Man, Bro, I'm inspired. Man, I feel like I'm like, man Bro, like I'm looking at it going like, we all do things because it resonates with us. Is this something like as you growing up as a child, obviously you're a creative and growing up as a child, that you feel that this was something that you need needed to do outside of just something like and then building being a part of the building to build what you guys are building right now, because this is something that obviously is gonna get bigger. Was it something that resonated with you as a child needed I wouldn't say as a child, good question though, good questions. I wouldn't say as a child, I would say I was privileged as a child, Right. I didn't grow up in a privileged neighborhood, but my big homies had money. If you can read between the lines, yeah I had. I could get what I wanted as a kid. Where it resonates for me at is that I also do working in schools. Right, So two things I also do working in schools. We did a I did a survey in the school one of the schools that I worked in one time, and it's an international based school, so there's like a lot of kids who are first generation Africans who will hear a lot of kids from the Latino population, and then of course black the black kids from the school from DC right, And basically what we did was we had a survey and a survey question was my city is. And the students had to come over on a whiteboard and just fill out what their city is. And we took pictures of that, and a lot of the Latino kids and the Ethiopian kids and the West African kids was like, my city is opportunity, my city is great, my city is amazing, my city is the land of And we got to the black kids, it was like, my city is violent, my city is dangerous, my city is unhealthy. My city as well, Like it was like it was clear that the city was something different based off the perspective. And so part of this initiative is like, yo, we have to allow our black kids to see that they are growing up in a city where they really can win. Even though I know it's right. We talked last time I was here, we talked about duality. Right, there's duality. I recognized that they're growing up in some tough conditions and struggles. It's like, don't allow yourself to believe that this ain't a city where you can win. Just because there's some struggle here for you, like people are really moving here to take advantage of the things that y'all don't necessarily know exists. The other side of that, my partner, his mother actually used to do costume design in Hollywood for two two seven, like a lot of them shows two to seven, them late eighties shows in Hollywood. She was one of the costume designers on that. So when they moved out to DC, they moved out here because they were Actually his mother is the first cousin of Marion Barry's wife, Corl Masssberry, and so they started a nonprofit in the late nineties called Sowing Opportunities Never Ending, which was essentially established each kids how to sew as a means of economic mobility, like to get them into the fashion industry. So twenty years later, over twenty years later, you're looking at the fruit of her original labor through her son who's now the executive director, combined with my partnership from with great care about helping these creatives in the city, especially the creators who were born and raised in the city, the black creators understand how to navigate this. I love that, man. I appreciate your honesty because I know exactly how you feel, bro coming up. Sometimes we gotta make changes and they always I love that. It's positive. That's right, that's right, absolutely well, you know the homies, the Homies gave our turkeys. Should that's my guy. You holding on with It's right? You holding on for a little while, right, yeah, yeah, I'll be here with you. I stay typed here. So we want to bring someone else with him. We have a tremendous amount of respect for my guy. You say side, he's holding on tight. We're gonna bring him back because we don't want him to go anywhere. He's doing an amazing event, real quick, tell him love. Then again, we want people to know it is the DCI holiday party and toy drive, raising toys, gathering toys to give away to families in the district. For me, there you go, loving those babies, loving those babies. Classy lady. Who do we have today? Who do we have to dead? We have Debah Barnes Hamilton. Her mission is to empower marry women and couples struggling with emotional connection learn how to prevent drifting apart to be her respected and desired so they can have a deeper intimacy in their love lives. I want to know. I want to hear more about that. Put your hands together and get a warm We talk weekly. Welcome to Deborah Barnes Hamilton. Hey, Hiorah, Welcome, Welcome Deborah. I'm very interested what made you start wanting to empower women and married couples and you know, struggling with different things? And first I want to also ask you how are you today? I'm great. I'm trying to come down with a little cold, but other than that, I'm doing good. Awesome, Okay, we'll feel better, and it is something going around. But tell us what made you want to start empowering women and you know, helping helping couples. Look around, just look around, you know, look at the struggle that women go through. And you know, I was talking to a group of women women and one of the things that I realized is that we need help, We need to understand. My whole mission is to help women understand who they are, because if you don't understand who you are, it's very difficult to navigate the world of marriage. So that's one of the things that I focus on. But I just really love helping women and especially marry women. And I've been married for a total of almost forty one years, and I know what it's like to struggle in your marriage, have issues. And even though men don't want to admit this, women are the main ones to hold down the marriage. You know, we take care of the kids, these words. You know, we try to be going, so you know, we are holding it down, and I just feel like we need support. And I'm here to support because I know what it's like to raised kids, work at the same time and try to maintain a marriage. So that was That's just my mission is to help as many married women and couples. My focus more is on married women right now, but to help them to navigate this world called life and be the best person they can be, to show up whole in their marriage. All Right, we got a lot of gentlemen in here. I gotta I got I gotta ask them questions about man, We got questions. This is the first day. Let's get it. Let's get it. So my question is it's pretty much as you know, it's I love what you're doing this, I think this is great, But what would you say to men like you said, we have a lot of men on what would your advice be, And you've been married for you know, God bless you for a great you know deal time, what would you say? What for the men would be your advice to them to to try to help keep things together? Because of course, like you said, you know, we're not we're not the smartest all. We need help, we need direction. Yeah, and I love the first Yes, And I can say that because my twin brothers never been married. I was married and divorced, and you know he did both. I didn't even do one, yet he did both. He got married. And you know, just recognize what we do, recognize what we bring to the relationship. Sure, and ask yourself, why did I What was what attracted me to this person in the first place? Right? What attracted me? What made me want to be with them? What made me stand up there before my family, friends and God and say that I want to marry you. We lose that, We lose that as time goes on and we forget how much we love that person when we first married them. Right, So acknowledge what they do, acknowledge their struggle, and be willing to help. You know, we will love you so much more if you help out around the house. If you help take care of the kids, they're your kids too. And you know, if you help with the household, believe me, your woman, your wife would be more than willing to support you, be there for you, and do all kind of stuff for you if they had the same support. So to me, it's just a matter of support. It's recognizing what they do. And I tell my married women all the time the two things that men want it y'all can correct me if y'all want to. But the two things that y'all want is y'all want to respect and appreciation, absolutely, ma'am. And when we give that to you, then that honors you. But you need to reverse that right and recognize what we bring to the table so that both of you can be in sync. Both of you can recognize what each person brings to the table and how important each person is. So that's what I say about men. Just recognize what we do. Just give us some kudos sometimes and take care of us, because we're very good at taking care of everybody else, So flip it and take care of us sometimes, and we will truly appreciate it and love you to death over that. I love that absolutely. Just ma'am, I need a man to take care of That was an earfold. Absolutely, I think I would agree with you. When'd you say sleeps one of the twins left, He's like, no, he had to take a call. He's doing some union stuff. He had to go answer call. He didn't want to hear about that relation. Charles just came back in the room too. I said, put your headphones back and listen. Listen, pay attention, pay attention. You know, don't don't let them, don't listen to them, don't let them. You shun highlight what you think about what the doctor said that Dr Hamilton first, congratulations on forty one years. Well, it's not total, and let me correct that it's not total. I was married for thirty four and now I've been married for seven, so total, you know. Congratulations on thirty four. Yeah, gradulations on a second day. Yeah, I'm glad you're doing the work to do across the board, right, we need it. I think there was a counselor at the school I used to live. When when the black man and black women come together with a new black family is established, that's like having a shotgun in the trunk. That's our best weapon. In terms of getting to what we need to be as a people. And I think, you know, America has done a really good job of pinning black men and black women against each other. So having the women step forward and get yourselves aligned and get y'allself right and ready has also pushed us as brothers because of the way that y'all teamed up and had y'all brunches and been there for each other emotionally held each other down. It's forcing us to do it because we got a level love emotionally. We got to level love spiritually to be able to meet y'all. We can't just be like it's about the money I got to provide. Now, we got to find the other ways to be active and step into those other energies. So we appreciate the work you're doing and just you know, want to continue to celebrate that and then ask for your help as the brothers step up to sharpen each other because we got to do the work on each other. Absolutely, yeah, I agree, And that's one of the things that I talk about a lot too, is how women can connect. Right, Women can connect, women can support each other, but men, for some reason, y'all can't connect. Y'all can't be there and be real with each other. Y'all could be yet, hey man, how is that game and all that stuff? But to be real with each other, to express what you're going through. And you know, when you have a camaraderie with each other, then you learn when you're truly honest, and you learn what's happening with each person and be supportive of that person. You have no idea how you could change the dynamic of people's relationships because you're being real. You're telling you know, you're sharing your journey with you with your other male friends so that y'all can be supportive. Because women are very good at it. We will support each other, we will be there for each other. But men, y'all got to step up and y'all got to do better for each other. Y'all got to be more supportive of each other because when you do that, and and the other piece that I have to say about that is tell the truth. If you know that your friend is not doing what he's supposed to be doing, check him, because like, no, man, that's not how we do that. Now, you got to honor your wife. You gotta honor your girl. You can't. You can't treat her like that. You know we have more men to do that. Can you imagine what the black marriage look like? Because we are supporting each other, we're there for each other, and we're saying, nah, I'm not gonna tolerate that. You're supposed to be my friend, but I can't be your friend if you're treating your woman like that. That is honesty, that is being real with your friends. I know that's right. I know that's right, missus Deborah. I'm tired of getting fussed at right now? Can you tell us your top twenty I'm to get I'm full of bad right, you know, a lady, I know you know I can see you know I'm listening, but I do want to hear. What's you give me your top in your top five or twenty twenty three? Tell me about your year. I've had a great year. You know. I started out working with married couples, but I found out that my jam it's really working with married women. And so I have a Merry Women's Form that I do by weekly on Wednesdays at seven pm. And we have different topics every week. And the main thing, like I said to you guys, in the beginning is that we talk about us. We talk about how we show up in our marriage, what how can we improve in our marriage? Right. And the other thing that I'm so excited about is I just started speaking with my brother. My brother was in prison, let me just say, on death row for seventeen and a half years and he just got out. And so we have been talking to people about what it's like to be on death row and how it affects the family, you know, because everybody is into the person who's on death row, but no one understands what we go through as the family living, you know, under living with someone or you know, trying to help that person get through their journey of being on death row. And you know, so I've been having some speaking events and just doing different things. But I'm telling you my passion is, you know, supporting married women, being there for them and for you know, twenty twenty four, I want to continue to be as the speaker that I am. I want to continue to shine a light on what's happening with men on death row and how it is affecting the family. And it's just it's a powerful thing because there's so much that happened in my life, in my family's life, dealing with the situation with my brother. So that is just become another one of my passions right now to just get the word out of what's happening with people who are on death row, what it looks like, and the fact that it causes PTSD, and not only just for the person that's incarcerated, but also for the family members as well. So it's just been a lot of things going on this year, and I feel like I'm just ending it on a really good note. So I'm really excited. Well, blessings up for him being home after being on death row. That doesn't often happen. You're right, it's it's very rare, and he had the best lawyers in the world to get him off of death row. So we are very very excited and thank you Jehovah. But we are so excited that he is now home with us. You know, another another year that we don't have to worry about him being in prison for something he did not do. Fast fantastic. You got those lawyers numbers in the check for real. I wanted to say to your point for us for far as for men opening up one thing I did a number of years ago, I says break during covid IS, I used I utilized what we have access to as union members, and I started doing I took counseling, which in the black community a lot of the times it's like, bro, you did counselor, and we don't. We don't really And I grew up in Brooklyn, and I'm gonna tell you one thing, ever, the hardest thing you could ever do is is the word that we get a lot is you solved soft. So we're programmed to be ment. We're programmed to be hard. We're programmed to suck it up. You fall while you're crying for your tears. So it's easier for it's easy to say for us to express ourselves. But when there's a history of being told not to cry, I hear it. You're gonna You're gonna find the problems that are happening today today. So I feel like for me when I when I when I went to counseling, I was like, yo, I had a lot of trauma from just growing up, all the homies that have died around me and literally had tough skin, and was like, oh he did, Oh man, you go through it, and then you got to pick yourself up because you find out somebody else died and you're like, oh my god. And when I did the numbers and I'm like, wow, it was very easy for me to like have sympathy, empathy and sweep that under the carpet, that emotion. But I was bottling up so much. And I feel like the best thing that I ever did was go to counsel because it's somebody you know, I they don't really know me, but I could spew it out. I felt like it was it was easier for me. I started calling on all my other ponies that was back in Brooklyn and be like, yo, man, you good bro, You're straight, Like no Facebook. You got to pick up the phone and realize, like that trauma wasn't just me. We are all affected by trauma. But as that Mandy told to like suck it up, get that bag, blah blah blah. And being somebody who works fifteen hours a day in film and you know you want to be there to support a woman and you want to do a lot of things. I think a lot of it has to start with what we have to deal with as men, as children in order for that to even be able to be fixed, because I'm way more honest about how I feel now than I am when I was that I was before because I had to wear this mask of like yo' yo, no, I'm part of me son, you know, you know what I mean, Like we we have to when we leave the house, you got to put on that metal jacket. It's a society that got to help us in order to become the better men that we are. It can't be it can't be a switch. So I'm think someone is the best thing that I ever did. And I'm so proud of you for that. That's amazing because there is a lot of trauma in the black community. I mean, we we deal with trauma so much more than anyone else, you know. And and so I'm very proud of you, and I appreciate the fact that you're open about it and allowing other people to hear your story about going through counseling. Right. But one of the things that I do in my married Women's form, which I you know, which I talk about all the time, is for us women to be a safe haven for our men, because when you're out there in the world and you're fighting whatever demons, whatever people you gotta deal with. When you come home, you need that support, You need that safe haven. So if you need the cry, if you need a hug, if you need somebody to spend some time with you, just for conversation, we as women can be that safe haven for you. And I'm a firm believer in that because I'm gonna tell you, if my man has any problems, he knows he had come home to me, he could talk to me, and anything he says or done, I'm right there with him. I'm right there for him. And that is so important for us to really make sure that we are a safe haven to our men. It is I'm supporting you at home. You can soften up a little, right, You could just soften it up and hold you down no matter what you're going, bro. I want to get tap into that because doctor Hamilton used the word safety, and I know for men, right, it's very big for us that we provide safety for our family, for our women, for ourselves. And I think one of the things man, I had to learn over time, and I'm still learning, right, is that we often prioritize physical safety. Are you good if you're a real man? You don't go nowhere without playing security your eyes at all times. I try to tell you know the women that I'm around, like you got to understand, whenever a man is around you, a good man automatically carries responsibility because at minimal he's playing the roles, the exits, he's watching people, and it's like your mind is running ten times. However, where we sometimes struggle, and I speak for myself is emotional safety. Speaking for us all struggle us. It's back to what Sleep said, we didn't grow up an emotional safety. And so my request, right, my request is not that the women have to I'm not asking the women to bear the burden or the weight. What I'm asking the women to do is to practice, continue to practice grace and mercy. Kay Michelle said, I ain't gonna raise no man. Sorry says, We're gonna need you to raise us in the emotional safety category. Help us those of us who want to practice it. But you you're gonna have to help us get that right, because y'all you can practice that on us in ways, and we can't practice that on you yet. All right, So we're asking, I'm asking, can you tell the sisters to give us a little grace as we practice that. Yeah, I'm spread the word too, the word. Yeah. The part of that emotional safety is when we give you that blanket, don't throw it back at us. We will never ever that blank what you again? I agree? I totally agree. That's why I love my Married Women's Forum because we talk about all these things and we build each other up. Every every other week we're talking about a different topic. And one of the things that we did on Wednesday is we talked about blame and relationships and how we have to take ownership and look at ourselves instead of plenty fingers at our men. What are we doing? What is our role in causing uh that thought of blame? You know? So we have very powerful conversations in my in my Married Women's form, just so we can make sure that we're building ourselves up. Number one, which is always number one. We got to love on ourselves. We got to work on that self love for ourselves so that we can show up whole and confident in our marriage, so that we can be, like I said, your safe haven. That is my goal every other week when I'm having my sessions with my women, be that safe haven for that man, I know what it's like. I grew up in dysfunction. I am a child of childhood trauma. I know what it's like. But I also can see the man's side of it, because if you don't feel like you can trust your woman, then you don't know how to release. So you stand there and you've been this strong man twenty four to seven and never get to release how you really feel. And I think we all as women can do that for our men. But I'm gonna tell you something. You gotta show up for us too. It's not an all way street. You gotta show up for us too. You gotta show us that we can trust you, that you are our safe haven as well. You know we need that safe having. And I have to say most men recognize that they are that they need to be there for their woman. But I think that sometimes you need to look at being there for them more emotionally. Then you can sometimes in what you're able to do because of how you're growing up, how you grew up, what you're seeing out in the streets. But if y'all have that back and forth, y'all supporting each other, Yeah, y'all a powerful couple. That's a powerful. That's a powerful relationship. You know what accountability, Communication and accountability, and that's hard from times for people on both sides to even be accountable for the for what they do and their actions, and it's harder to communicate it. Trust me. That's why I wrote my book Master and Communication and Your Relationships and Marriage because the key communication is the key. I'm telling you, knowing yourself and knowing how to communicate properly. Those are the main two things that we as couples. If we do that, then we don't have a powerful relationship. As as my main communication was my team, right Troit, Trevor, I know y'all got some I was gonna say, brother Usta made a good point, and that's pretty much what I wanted to go back to a little bit a while back about us just piggybacking on what the doctor said, is we got to be there for women emotionally too, because pretty much that's why I got divorced. It was about my work ethic working too much, and you know, wanted to be that male provider and I thought that was you know, the best thing to do, just be out all the time and and you know, filming and and you know, just trying to get my hustle together, and I really wasn't paying enough time, paying enough attention to home, and you know, she just pretty much was like, yeah, I can't take this. You out out all day. He had a good wife too, man, He told you hard when he he didn't want to get and he spent a whole lot of nights on my bed at three ams. Seriously, he didn't want to lose his wife, but he didn't see what he was doing was it was was the cause of what was going on. But it was just work, work, work, all the time. And she's just like, Okay, I'm a human being. I mean she got lost in all that. Yeah, yeah, but but think about it from this perspective. That's a lesson learned. Right. You're not going to do that with your next relationship. You know. Now you know that your woman needs your time. Money is not everything. And I and I and I appreciate your hustle. I appreciate the fact that you wanted to bring home the money. But your wife didn't marry you just for the money. She married me for you. And that is the piece that I think men forget because you are the provider. You want to be the provider, right, You guys are wired to be that way, to be the provider. But providing also means emotional support, being there for your spouse, you know, being there as she goes through her emotional stages because we as women, we are emotional with that there. We really agree to that. I really agree And I remember saying that to a man. I was like, listen, I appreciate all you do, everything you do for me, everything you give me, constantly giving me this, bringing home. I said, but I want you right, And that's the difference. Yeah, exactly. I mean, we like the nice things, but it's nothing like having your man. I want my man all the time, like I want him in my presence. I want him. What I'm talking about, right, preach, Well, we appreciate you from appreciating us. It's something that we learn from a young age. And I think there's something that should be a curriculum that's friends school to actually able like a form of communication, because I can tell you as a black man, like I mean, it's so easy to have this conversation where you put yourselves in our shoes. I'm telling you, we walk out the door every day like bat Man we gotta we gotta put that mask on because you can't be walking around like this, dude, you get wrong, you know. And the beauty of it is is like I feel like we're all getting to a place as as men and like like like you said, it's like men we need to be better, Like we need to be like when we walk into rooms, we gotta be able to be like identify our roles. And I think that that will start to mitigate a lot of the things that we feel we have to do. Inead of really programming. I'm you know, I'm just I'm glad I learned it later in life than not at all. Yeah, I'm proud of you. I'm honestly proud of you still learn I'm just a man just talking about it. To talk to your friends about it, because in the world, you know, they don't say none of them paying my rent, No none, I mean any of my bills. Know you know what I'm saying, Like that's my mentality now, I don't care if somebody think my favorite movies the Notebook, So what go ahead, you out here, you go ahead, my brother, No, no, no. Notebook is actually definitely one of my one of my favorite movies. I actually, uh, I say that. I laugh about it all the time because I'm like, man, listen, you ain't trying to you ain't trying to like be eighty five and just die with me. You just go out together exactly exactly. I like this. It's just it's just crazy because, like I said earlier, in America has done a good job of making us feel like we are each other's enemies. That's right, And I mean the way I look at it. I actually had a sister asked me earlier, I mean not earlier today, but like a couple of weeks ago. She said, do you do you want a woman who's more like you? Or do you? And I told her, I said, listen, protons hang out together, but protons don't make molecules. It's a proson in an electron that comes together to make molecules. Right, So I need I understand that, Like the woman isn't my h the black woman isn't my opponent, She's my balance, She's the other side, right, And I know that. And so as great as I can be on my own and as great as I can put in the work that I do, I know that. And you've been married a total forty one years. I believe that the most I utilizes the institution of marriage and partnership and relationship to bring us into our highest level. Because of leadership, grace, mercy, the practice of love, all of the higher attributes of the masculine and feminine energies, all of the higher attributes of God are tied up into who you have to be to have a successful Sure. So I've been married before divorce, been divorced now for like five or six years, and definitely want to be married again. I ain't gonna rush. I don't rushing now. We're gonna We're gonna attract it. I ain't gonna right, but I'm down for the challenge. Now. I got a lot of homies be like, man, you've been married before, you ain't You ain't got to do it again? Brother? You did it? Like, No, you're real. Most of my home, all my friends are married. I'm the only one right now that they married. Uh, And who are solid men who carried away? For real? But I don't run. But you learn from it, right, I mean you learned. Every everything that happens to us is a learning. It's a lesson and you learn from it. So you know what happened in your previous marriage, and you work towards not letting it happen again, and you find the right person that is going to love you the way you need to be loved. And sometimes we marry because we really are in love or that that puppy love, and we don't realize what marriage really means. Marriage is not easy. Marriage is work every single day. Marriage is worked. But if you're well put in the work, then anything is possible. And one of the things that I say, out of time, remember why you why you wanted that person in the beginning. We forget as time goes on, we forget why we decided we wanted this person to be in our lives. We have got to remember what that what that that feeling that we had when we first met that person, right, what that mean? What that meant to us, and how we were so excited. We can't just get married and all of us, all of a sudden, we become this status quo. No, you fight for your marriage, You fight for the relationship that you want. That's what I tell my women. I was gonna say because we wasn't living together, but no doubt, I want to give it disclaimer to y'all. See we break out dancing, it's because they're getting loose down. You know, you gotta take us back down there for a second, you know what I mean? Getting it though? They were just playing that Uh what's that joint dude from Philly just mill No no, no, no, no, no you oh yeah that that? Yeah? I got you, no doubt. So before we hold up Rocky and trying to take out, something to say real quick. If we cannot be complete unless you listen to go, please believe it baby. And so before we let you leave, Miss Debora, why don't you tell everyone how they can get in contact with you and give them one last word. You can get in contact with me with nurture your Love on Instagram or nursure your Love dot com, where you find all of my information about all the different things that I'm I'm working on. And let me just say that, y'all, marriage can be the most beautiful thing that you can have. You just have to work at it. You have to want it. And that's the key. You have to want to be married. You have to look at that person every single day and realize what that person really means to you, not because you had an argument. And one of the things that I also say, sometimes we have an argument and it's only a moment. We don't have to blow out of proportion. We don't have to be mad for days over it. It's a moment. Let it go, Just forget about it and keep it moving. And that is huh over what is over? We go onside, We just us, We go to the homies. We told her if we come back, oh we're good, and they still mad. She's still mad. And I do tell my women that it's it's only a moment. Let's not make it bigger than what it needs to be. I'm gonna tell you something. Being married can be the most amazing thing that can happen to you if you are willing to work, if both people are willing to work at it. And ladies, if there's one thing you could take away, it's be a safe haven for your spouse, for your man. Be that safe haven, because when you're the safe haven, they're gonna be there for you. They're gonna let their guard down, and they're gonna be willing to talk to you. I mean really talk to you, not that surface conversations that you're used to but they will be willing to tell you how they really feel because they feel safe with you. If a man does not feel safe with you, he's not gonna share his deep, darkor's secrets with you. So that's my one main thing that I want to leave with you guys tonight is be that safe haven and men, you be that safe haven for the woman too, no doubt, no doubt. Then you go. We got Kimberly that gave you one hundred. I hope it's when I think she put that up when you said you a comfort for men. I think I'm gonna say that. I'm hopefully she said no, she said it before you even said that. I'm just saying, you know, shout out to Kimberly, no doubt. Uh So, who we got coming up next? Thank you, miss Look. We love you. We love you, and you keep doing good and happy New Year and all that good old stuff. Thank you for having me and you guys, all of y'all awesome. Thank you, absolutely so. Who we got coming up next, Classy Lady Spargo. Next week got Kenny J. Wilkins. He can't remember music not being a part of his life. His father's influence, along with other musicians and God gifted gift helped him develop his passion for music. So y'all already know what to do. Give a warm we talk weekly. Welcome to Kenny Wilkins. Hey, my god, man, was everybody doing. I know you heard what's going on? But real quick that thought, real quick, because I want to jump back to you should side. He up there doing some good stuff for the kids Christmas. He's black, he's supt black, saying that is lit black. There you go. Yes, So everyone who who's just tuning in, we have you outside doing some good things for the community, good things for those babies. You know, we wanted him to stay on so we can amplify the great things that he's doing. You know, as men, sometimes we're looked at a little differently. You know, it's some negative stuff. But I love to amplify when these men, these beautiful black men, are doing some great things for the community. So without further do speaking of black men, my guy, how are you, my friend? I'm okay, man, enjoying the conversation, healthy conversation. We need this fantastic, fantastic So I know you heard a little, you know, since you was waiting in it bag. What's kind of like your thoughts from some of the stuff that you heard. It's Deborah still thanks for staying on. You can stay on all night and he could you know about yeah, healthy invitation. I've been married for twenty one years. My wife just passed away this past June. Right, thank y'all so much. One of the things that I've learned is it's work. So doctor Devora Hamilton is absolutely right. It is not something you can pick up and lay down. It's something you got to work out every single day. So of course, every marriage has their issues. Every man, every woman has their issues, but it's absolutely work. One thing that I've learned through the course of my marriage sometimes we can have uncommunicated expectations. I heard that from somewhere and I took it and I wrung with it, and I enjoyed the institution of marriage, and I we'll do it again. But it ain't gonna ge just for anybody, you know what I mean. So I'm not expecting her to be like her. I'm not expecting any of that, but I am expecting it for it to be worked. So it ain't gonna be easy, but it's all good. Thank y'all for your prayers. I know it's kind of rough to hear that, but I gave it a hundred. I was there from the beginning to the absolute end. And to God be the glory. I'm still here. I'm still faithful, I'm still loving, and I'm looking forward for what's next. So it ain't all over. It's just just a bump in the road, that's all it is, for sure, for sure, my god, my god. Ye appreciate you, you know, condolences for coming back. Yes, absolutely absolutely, you know. I told look, you knowsparent the show? Yeah off, I said, no, yeah, we need that, We need you. You know this what we do it it's our special wrang up show, and so we invite. Remember one thing we say on the show. Everybody know I sing on the show. Once you come to the show, you're a friend to the show. Yeah, I appreciate it. So as you stay on, you know that you're our friend. We are family, and that's what we do. My guy, you shot like to amplify his event one more again because he's doing some beautiful things for them kids, for them commuting real quick. Why don't you tell them what we're doing? Sap? Yeah, yeah, once again and we are here at the holiday toy drive for DC out of District creativisit to collecting toys to provide some support for families in the district who need it. So next week doing our black our Black vendors market, we'll be passing our toys to families while supplies, you know, our supplieres last. So whatever we can do to utilize what we've been given to help somebody else, that's the platform we really be on over here. Fantastic. How beautiful is that d C d C Northeast DC on the historic H Street corridor. Our building is nine twenty four H Street, Northeast District Creatives. It is an art incubation space for DC CREB. Fantastic. Let me tell you how beautiful this is. This whole conversation is miss debborgh Where you from? Where are you at right now? I'm in Delaware, Delaware, Kenny. Where you at right now? South Carolina? South Carolina Sleeps? Where you at right now? Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, beautiful, BC? You shot? Where you at right now? D C? I mean d C, Washington, d C. There you go? Where we at right now? Philly? Philly? Really you see how beautiful that is. I mean, we're all across. We all across. This is something that we do. We love our people, man, we love bringing the people. We all look like each other. Right, It's some beautiful So let's jump right back in. Kenny, my god, So what you got? You know we're doing this? You know this to the top five that you got for the year? Man, why don't you tell ever you I got the five? I know they nobody got. I'm blaming kiddy, So give me your fig give It's like, you know, it's a couple of things that stood out for you on twenty twenty three. My front eye ladders, who shoot? Okay? Of course, my wife passing away was was was huge. I'm still pushing in the music game. My perspective has always been the same when it comes to love. So that's gonna stick out. New visuals, new dreams, new perspectives, but all have a goal in mind that's gonna be positive to the world in my community. So if those are the things, you know what I mean, I'm good with the vibes. I love the vibes. I can't do the negativity. You gotta get out of here with that. It's got to be positive, you know what I mean. So twenty twenty four is gonna continue with all of that. The vibe is good and we're gonna keep it rocking. So I know that ain't five. That's probably like ten or twenty. But one of the things that we made you do last time. Man, you gotta give us something, man, because you you killed the last time. So give us something real quick, you know, miss ain't hear you give us something? All right? Uh? For so long? For this night, I pray got a star with God. You my way to show we me the spa shoot day. There's a ribbon in disguise for all love. What's your Instagram? That's why he was married for twenty one years. Relieve it's a long home. It's funny man long, that's a long term voice. That's funny. Long. Hey, doctor, he can sing his way out of an argument. Not all the time, because she don't want to hear all that. She'll cut all that noise out and then come on, let's talk about this thing. A doctor. I'm not a doctor. I started, I started, I started that. You know it's all good. You adopted honorary right doctor to day shout out to Kimberly. Kimberley said, you better, you better say shut out the kim believe man. I can't believe that. Yeah, real, real, long time day landed Hercules Hercules right. So he so listen, you've been listening to some of the things that said in terms of you know, you know, keeping you know our significant other, right, as it relates to you know, what we can do as men. Right. So we talk a little bit about what you believe we can do better as men, right, that we're not already doing right, because apparently no matter what we do right, He's about to go off. He tell us what we can do, what you think we can do better. I'm loving this conversation. Yes, never has to talk about love relationships. Okay, we have a we have a standard of Relationships segment on our show every week. He goes, oh, yeah, I think we had a time because getting all of it. So he is gonna he is gonna hear this. If he's got a female, he gonna hear it because it's communication that they want. It's a communication. It's communication. If there's anything that females want and desire, it's for you to hear them. If there was that's the simplest thing. And here's the thing that men do. Men here the beginning and the end. Women like all the specifics and the nuances inside of it and before they get to the end. So before it starts, the men already got the answer, but the women has got to explain it from the question in every bit of the inside. She's got to get that a bit of it before she gets to the end. Men have to be a little more patient and just and just be calm, and not be calm like I can't wait for this to be over. Calm, but but calm like listening. Hold hey, Kenny, I got something for you. Hold on, yeah, hold on, hold on, I got something for you, my friend, hold on, I gotta find it. Though, tis ut all right? Go ahead, my brother, I'll be honest to me. I know we make light of it, but it's absolutely women. If you can have a conversation with a woman, you have her. If you cannot talk, it won't be long or she gonna pack up and she gonna roll on you. Hey. It's one thing about learned how to communicate. That's going to it's gonna help the relationship last. And then women also need to know when to be silent too. That's very true. So it's two ways. So it's two ways street situation st because we don't even talk about the stages, like when you're in marriage. I was married for seventeen years, changed my children. I changed after I turned this age. You changed, and just like you do meanings, you got to check in just and how how Kenny is talking about knowing a woman. That's how you learn. We talk to the women and we know what women why we can't talk and say okay, I need to understand my man, because then you know what not to do. And then if she knows and studies you, then he'll say, okay, I understand. Now we go on these PM messes and these monthly things. But he could be jotting down all right, wait, I think it's you know, it's about that time. She probably gonna be a little bit, you know, a little bit irritable, you know what I mean. So those little things and those little gems get to know her, study her, she study you. My mother used to tell me that when you make love, you make love to please him, he'll make love to please you and you just walk away happy. Right Like that makes sense when we know it's that time off, and we'd be like, maybe you know Auntie coming through. Why do we get in trouble for that? You got to sit down and have a conversation with her and say, hey, I ain't like what you said that Sometimes you don't know. She needs to get it, you know. And I mean, and I've heard it from many men. It's like we can't bring that up. That's like sacred is something no sleeps. Here's the thing. Women need to know that too. But depending on your religion, beginning the time, who may Adam eat the apple? So if she persuaded, she was telling him. We women are very crafty, we're emotional, we have all these things. That's why we need to check ourselves. Like I said, we need to know when to be silent. We need to know like all right, I was tripping. All right, you know baby, listen, I'm not feeling really well right now, and I don't want to take it out on you. So if women get to know themselves as well on that, that communication gonna be a lot easier to handle. That's true. That is true. That that's like you're speaking to me. I just had this conversation of my husband Wow, it's telling him. I told him yesterday. I was like, they, I know I've been irritable. I am so sorry, Please forgive me, but I am acknowledging the fact that I've been irritable. Okay, wait wait wait wait wait, this is being recorded right, recorded, right? I need did you just did you just not hold the I think? Did you just really acknowledge that I just had to sit in that moment just for one second? Record scratch was crazy? You know what? You know what? You took accountability? Yeah, it's not. If I'm everything I talked to my women about, I do the same thing. So can I say this? Can I say women? Women? I like the way you took accountability. Some women don't. And that's the way you lose us as men is when you don't say, yeah, I made it, I made I made a mistake. I'm sorry. Women. Some women do not say they sorry. I apologize every time I think I need to apologize. Apologize. You can't, that's true, but some women do. I just gotta. I want to shout out some people in here. Shout out to Kimberly is like our guest co hosts. She's been charming and shout out. Look me get her a round of applause. She's been charming and all crazy. Accountability is key, And I love you just for saying that. She's saying accountability is key. I love her for just for saying that. I think it's a silly look. I think I said it silly one. I think that's the name. Round of applause. Shout out to you, my friend. Listen, hope, help say look, help said excellent, excellent, excellent, and so shout out to everyone who's watching. I just want to acknowledge that we gotta acknowledge that people give them them flowers and all that little stuff. My fuck, Kenny Hollanton, I'm here, man. It ain't no big deal. It's just just very refreshing to hear a woman take accountability because some don't. Some don't say my fault. And let me say this to women, real dudes do not want no thoughty chick. Thirty Chicks will last for a season. After that is over, it's over, Uh, Kenny, real quick. Uh. For those of our friends who are Caucasian persuasion, can you explain just so they I mean, we have a dynamic audience here, you know, we we tracked everyone here. We talked weekly. We're worldwide, you know, and so we were just like everyone to pretty much understand what thought he is here. Uh. I ain't gonna say for real, for real what it is, but you gotta be calm, you gotta there. That's a great thank you appreciate, harlady, you said, harlady hardly just because I can. I want to play Devil's advocate. Yeah. One of y'all own from Philly, Jasone Sullivan said, it's a joints to get get married first. That's real. She said she felt like she might need to jump over in that direction in order to get her one. Wow, that's that's the narrative that that has been spent making what out of me? She said that that's true. But but it's also because they make you feel like it's a safe space sometimes, like you at home and you can't, you know, be all in the bedroom doing what you want, and then you go to her and she's like, oh baby, it's all right, I'm going whatever you want. So that's that safety that you know that the doctor was talking about. Kenny, Kenny, you were saying, you were saying something real quick, Kenny, I want you to say that one more again and then you so I want you to jump in. Go ahead, Kenny. Yeah, it's ship and I get that. And the spectrum is really large, right. I think the narrative that we speak, or the narrative that we see in the world, is that men like those sorts of things, but they like them for a season. Yes, right, right, all of that stuff is gonna fade away. I was telling my daughter not so long ago. I'm not saying for you to not look for good looking people, but don't let that be the only thing you look for, right, because beauty is gonna fade, you know, everything that's standing up and shooting, that's all that stuff is gonna kind of fall down a little bit. But if you have a phenomenal person and and and that attitude and that perspective and that mind is great, you can fall in love with that mind and how the conversation is. You know, it ain't always got to be let's let's go to the room, and that's that's the last resort. Sometimes sometimes you gotta have that that foe play before times before it even get there. So you gotta have that emotional for plate. You can't just go to the bedroom and think everything is going to be a party. I mean it doesn't last long. Yeah, they call it that what it's safe your sexuals something like that you should holler at. So look, I got a theory right here. I just developed this theories brand new. My theory is is right one. I do believe in righteousness. Mm hmm. What I feel like for for those of us who consider ourselves to be good men or good women who practice a certain level of righteousness and intentionality, we hide a lot of judgments behind our stipulations or desires and the thaughty jones. They don't be as judgmental. It'd be really emotionally safe over there because they be like, like it's cool they get married fast because they that's the mantra. That's the mantra. But on the serious let me get there with some seriousness. I do feel like we hide a lot of judgment behind what we call standards. And though I feel like accountability is super important, I also know that you can't hold nobody accountable. The only person that can hold somebody accountable is you can hold yourself accountable. But you I might not I might not even believe in what you believe in. So you know that is back to emotional safety. But you know, we had a lot in our standards and qualifications for people have been raised to uh think that certain parts of sexist taboo. And I say, you do what you want to do within your marriage, you know, don't let anybody define what that should look like for you. Only you and your and your spouse can make that determination. Sure, you know, so you know y'all talking about bodies and all that stuff. But you know, women who really know themselves and who are confident within themselves, they could be anything that they need to be for their man. You know. It's like no games, you just being what you need to be for your man, and your man need to be for you. That's how you got to look at us. Just well, I was raised this way, but yeah, you might have been raised that way. But now that you're married, because y'all know I come from the married perspective, right, But now that you're married, can nobody tell you what to do in your bedroom? That's right, that's truely, yep, very true. That's right. That's right. Uh, let's let's get ready, let's let's talk about let's pay some bills real quick. I know we need that, right, So if you pay, if you're paying attention and you watch, and this is how we continue to do what we do. Why don't you go to cash at balacine. We talk weekly. We could use that right now. Oh look, Kimberly said, real talk. So you see that we need you. We need you right now. That's how we continue to do what we do. Dollar sign, We talk weekly, casht but little some just dig a little bit, you know, a dollar here, a pound here. We can jump to a brand, you know, we can jump to a Franklin or whatever you want to do. We love all the presidents, right And so with that said, I don't want you guys to go anywhere because when we come back, well let's go. I think we come back more with Charles relationship. Oh no more, he come on, cut it out, Kenny, You holding on with his right. O'm here man, alright, my god, riding out with us. I'm riding there. You go, missus, Deborah, you hiding out with us? You riding out with us. I'm right here. You know, before we go to a break, my brother, you shah, why don't you tell everybody where you at what you're doing? One more again? Yeah, for sure. I am currently upstairs at DCI Editionrict creativisit too. We're downstairs. We are having a holiday party slash Toy drive toys to be able to give out next week to help some families who may be in need here in the District of Columbia. Love it, Love it, love it. I don't want you guys to go anywhere. We'll be right back. Sparkle gonna kill me for this, but I love it. We'll be right back, y'all. We just want to get a little background as to who the fantastic noises and the noisemakers, if you can let us know, Yes, absolutely so. Once again, I am fantastic Noise. I am the original noisemaker. So no one's gonna make as much noise as to me. Okay, And right here we have the Noisemaker Band. This is only half of it, and the other stuffs are upstairs. The my Kevin, Kevin, Lamar, Lannie and Dobbs, who are the actual band members. These are the background singers and we can to make some noise. We can to bring that noise today. So that's that's what we do. That's that's right. How did you guys get together? Man. So it started with I've been doing this on my own for almost three years now, and man, I guess each of these people here have different background stories. Most of us went to the same church together, and we just kept going. This one her, this is my one of my assistants, said, one of like the my my biggest support of my biggest shitar hear, she's assistant. So we just been building, and the same thing with upstairs with the band, just meeting through. People kept networking, kept staying and it was just like God, her dang bab here we are awesome. Ye. Well, could you guys do we talked weekly? A favor? Can you give us a drop in a melody type way? Type way? Okay? So we talked weekly. Okay, so we're gonna do something like this. We talk weekly. Come in here us we talk. We come in here, them we talk. We we come in here, them we talk. We come in here them we talk. We come in here now we talk. We me coming. Okay, Yo, we talked, we talked. He's after the talking w P P M l P Philadelphia, one of six point five f we talked weeklies. After the talking. We're here. We've we got a dynamic where my god big sleeps go. He back in the back. I know you got somewhere to go, sleep, so you can stay as long as you like. My brother, I know you somewhere he had. Why don't you tell everyone where you at right now? Sleep? I'm at the Hollywood North International Film Festival Festival in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. Now they're starting to hit me up, like, bro, you go, but you gotta you gotta like like you alive. Uh you know, I ran my mouth man, I'm here at end man, we got one more hour? I don't know we got one more hour? You got to you got you got too much. I was like this about an hour. I want to show. This is special show. We went to three hour? Is this time right? Right? Yeah? But look, whenever you gotta go, my friend, just hop off. We all understand, you know. We we appreciate you here you co hosted for the day. But we got you. We got miss Dapper in the building, she holding you down, My guy Kenny in the building, whole you down. Respect. I appreciate you so just you had all that not even I had all that big talk, and I told him at all I was no doubt. We appreciate you, my friend. Now it's all good, but we love you, my friend. You already know that you're the family here. And so Kenny howl at this man, like, you know, what, what's your projections for twenty twenty four? We you know, they always say, you know, this is my New Year's resolution and all that gooddle stuff, But what what's you know? What's your plans for going into twenty twenty four? My friend? Yeah, I make no New Year's resolutions. Yeah, it's gonna be what it's gonna be. I'm just living better every day. Twenty twenty four is gonna be another progression of twenty twenty three. We're just gonna try to involve, evolve and get better and better and better and better and better and better and better. So I already stopped eating meat. I'm about a year into that, so I don't have to do that. Already eating better, already trying to live better and making music. Got a couple of shows coming up, just a couple. There's a lot of things going on. So so it's just gonna get better. That's gonna get better, fantastic, fantastic. Well, we want you to rob with us. You know, yeah, I'm old. That's my god right there, that's my problem. Brother from another talative artist, talented musician, and do it all. I don't see a lot of my guests be humble, and I got to brag a bottle my bragging about my food. But he does. He's a one stop shop. You know. He has a full studio in his house and produce and does all his music. You know. So I gotta give him his kudos. I gotta, absolutely, And that's good news to me, you know why. That's good news. So I'm coming. That's a great So what do we got next? What do we got next? Oh? What do we have next? Oh? Yes, y you ain't even by you know what you mean? Like, give it to me? You gotta take what we got? Meant, Oh we got good news? Or did you go give it to me early? All right, y'all. In twenty nineteen, I'm just gonna go over some highlighted stories of twenty twenty three and twenty nineteen. Twenty five year old Hannah Payne witnessed a car accident. She saw sixty two year old Kenneth Herring hit another car and allegedly fled the scene, Payne called nine to one one to report the accident and ignored being instructed by this dispatchers to stay at the scene and not follow mister Herring. Y'all follow this so far. So Payne took it upon herself to chase mister Harry a block in his car and then and then put her car in front of his car and fatal shot him. So he didn't even hit her. He hit another car, rear ended something real small. She chased him, blocked him in with her vehicle, and then told him to get out the car. He was sitting in the driver's seat, and she fatally shot him. A judge just sentenced hand of Pain to life in prison with the possibility of parole. The charges was for malice murder. Pain also must serve eight years for false imprisonment in another five years for possession of a firearm. Per the reports, the sentence will be served consecutively. Both Herring and Pain's families received death threats, according to reports. Some speculated was due to race, because she was a white female and he was a black, older gentleman. Detectives previously cited that witnesses who said it appeared that the driver herring was having a medical emergency, so he was in like a diabetic shock when he did the rear ended crazy, So I get that. Yeah, Wow, Okay, the next story Barbara Furlough. Barbara Furlough Smiles as a former Facebook Diversity program manager. She just pleaded guilty to scamming Facebook out of four million dollars. Wow. Miss Smiles, thirty eight years old, was employed as the lead Strategic Global head of Employee Resource Groups and Diversity Engagement go figure. Allegedly, she Miss Smiles hired suppliers operated by her friends who charged fraudulently inflated prices to Facebook and then paid her in cash kickbacks. Also, due to her access to the company credit card and her authority to approve invoices, Miss Smiles paid friends and family for phony goods and services. She submitted fraudulent expense reports for swag or marketing events. Is going to be this is investigated by the FBI. So the FBI said that Facebook slash Meta provided assistance. Facebook was cooperative throughout the investigation. Ms Miles is going to be sentenced and marched. So is there a certain amount of time she has to serve because of four million that's the white collar con to the higher the money, the more time. Yeah, all right. This next story is about a twenty four year old Mackay Washington, so we do have a clip on this. Makay Washington from Alabama was changing a blown out tire on his car near his aunt's home when he was approached by a female officer named Dana Elmore. Washington's girlfriend was sitting in the car as a witness when Elmore approached the vehicle. Elmore asked Washington for his ID, and then in a news interview, Washington stated that he was very respectful to the officer. He answered all her questions with yes, ma'am and no, ma'am, and then she asked him to go stand in the back of the car, but he was like, I'm not detained and I didn't do anything. I'm changing my tire. So then she grabbed him. She said no. He says that she grabbed me and I was standing between the back door and the driver door, trying to turn my camera on and record her. But then she tased me for the first time and put her foot in the back of in my back and I fell down. Washington's brother, who was also with him. He wasn't in the car at the time, but he saw what was going on, so he started recording. Reports state that after the first taze, Elmore put the cuffs on Washington and then put him on the hood of the car, and then she tased him again after he was cuffed and found that he had a gun in his back strap, and then that video has gone viral. And then she also said that she was like, oh yeah, and he was asking, why are you saying oh yeah, and she tastes them again. Elmore is on administrative leave while the case is under investigation. Do we have a clip? M hm, where did that go? Mm hmmm. That ain't stand up, It says triggering. So just a warning right there on the front of the car, steak stupid, I don't got I ain't doing but I got good right there. Oh yeah, I'm staying. We can say, oh your phone, oh my god. M h uh. Yeah. Well, Washington's lawyer is seeking criminal charges against Elmore and the for excessive and unlawfully used and false charges. It charges because she charged him with trafficking fentanyl, a felony with a firearm, and he's not a felon. A lot of some of these were dropped. He was on a five hundred thousand dollars bond, which of course was dropped as well. So the case is still being investigated. Sad. I don't know why they have to really investigate. It's right there, it's right there. Where do you investigate. You're gonna ask it a lot of you again after she lied on paperwork. Anyway, Yeah, I'm positive losy eye. Yeah. Yeah, that's the only positive part, because absolutely she needs to go. This next story is about twenty six year old Lenisia Hin. She's in jail for allegedly attempting to burn down the birth home of the late doctor Martin Luther King. Junior. Witnesses say they saw Henderson dowsing doctor King's birth home with gasoline, pouring it onto the porch, the front door, and the bushes. Witnesses say they saw Henderson about to ignite a lighter when two off duty officers restrained Henderson. Henderson, also a warfare specialist in the US Navy, is being held without bond and charged with second degree arson and the interference of government property because the birth home of the late King is historical and government property of that area, so the home is one hundred and twenty eight years old, and doctor King lived in that home from a baby to twelve years old. Wow. Wow, I don't know if I had any good news in this good news and bad news right good, I got the good bad news. Oh goodness, you got it. That was your good news and your bad news from classic Lady Sparkle. Don't body bring me no bad news. You cut it out. We need some good news more bad news. But you know what I noticed? This was all women that was weird. Like that was all women that were Yeah, I don't know why that happened. Doctor. You need to talk to doctor the one that we need you to miss put your opportunity. Opportunity. They got communication problems. But I shouldn't. I should tap out very shortly. I'm getting like I'm getting the text. They actually sent me a thing with an empty seat. Empty seat. You need to go oh the empty It's go ahead, bro, Thank you so much. Why don't you just get get them? One last word for I just want to say thank you to each and every one of y'all for having me. We talk. Come on like I mean, I would love to come back in New Year. Whatever it is. We definitely should be doing that movie. We should definitely figure out make let's do that. I feel like we we It was set for a reason, so we should really And I'm that serious. I'm not even joking. I'm dead seriously. We already follow on Instagram. Follow back. I carry your camera or something whatever. I can carry a light or something. Man, we're gonna I think y'all need to love coaching. Yeah, hey, you know what I think with when you think about how many creative people on here and all the stories that we can like kind of put together and piece something together, I think that we would be able to come up with something that is dynamic. I can think of four or five different things. You got, you know, topics about marriage, you got you know what, what you was doing for the community, you got the twins over here. You know what I'm saying. We had so much to work with. And I think that if we sit down and we actually have a conversation and really think about it, I mean it's possible. Everything is possible. But I want to say thank you so much, you know, Merry Christmas and happy New Year. That everybody peace love. You know, I always say, hey, everybody should always you know, remember to love each other and uh you know, tell a friends telling people that they love them, because that might be the very last time you see them. Might be that moment. So love y'all and take care. Thank you so much for having me. I have I have to escape right now. Respect and yeah, and you, I would love you. Saw. I love what you're doing. Man. And next year, if you down like I mean like, uh, let's somehow get my info to us and we should do something more. I can come out. I'll bring on a couple of actors. You know what I'm saying. I'm here with a whole bunch of them right now. I'm gonna tell them we probably do it, do something like that, and you pick it up and we talk and figure out something where we can help the drive for the toy drive. I love that, man, I appreciate it definitely. That's easy. Yeah, figure it out. Love. I love it all right, But yo, thank y'all so much for having me, man, and I appreciate y'all. It was great, And thanks y'all for laughing at my jokes. I'll be in touch and I'll connect y'all. Thank you. I appreciate that, y'all. Take your peace, love, Happy New Year, Mary, Christmas, Happy holidays, all right, respect, thank you? Yeah, my god, my god, I think this is another time. This is a great time for you to tell everybody what's going on. Where you at, my brother, Yeah, once again, man, I'm here the District Creative Vistitu from the historic corridor of H Street Northeast and DC where we are having a holiday party slash toy drive, collecting toys to be able to give it away to the families who are in need here in the District of Columbia. All the toys that we collect today will be wrapped on Thursday and our gift wrapping party, and then next Saturday doing our Black Vendors Market, We'll be passing our toys to families who supplies last. So if anybody's listening in the surrounding area of the d n V and would love to come get a toy for their children, pull up next Saturday, District Creative Vistitue nine twenty four H Street Northeast, DC. Bro When when I tell you Santa Claus was lit, got shot out to Santa Santa Clause was lit. It was down there, I say. He came right into the camera to Oh, look, really been here since eleven o'clock this morning too. That's why he like you to do something. You know, he was live on you did that. We got him down here, way back, way back back for a reason, no doubt, no doubt. So what, so what's next for you? You side for real? You don't talk to this a little bit? What's next for you? My friend? I mean, when I check out, I'm gonna go downstairs and perform. I just like I was a commercial breakout in the stairs like bro, you performing today. I'm like, no doubt. We're just trying to close out the year. Man, trying to close out the year. My birthday is exactly two weeks from now, December thirty, and so I'm gonna celebrate my birthday, and uh, I'm gonna close out the year with some rest, some peace, some some calculated moves, and just try to think about how I want to manifest things with twenty twenty four. But then my daughter's also gonna come stay with me for the break, which is good. She don't live far from me, but she needs to come stay with me because I just want to I want to teach her how to I'm on her ass right now, that's right about her grades in school, But I'm on her ass so much during the week that I want to teach her and help her develop her own self care practices and meet her on Saturdays and Sundays to practice love on herself so that Monday through Friday she can sprint because the school she's going to ain't no joke that she she gotta know what it looks like to put her best effort in and then and then pick her shoes off and throw her feet in here for sure, for sure, Yo, you suw, I got something I want you to promise you'll try out for me to do. All right, look check this out right, And so in a vein of strike, shout out to a yo, a yo, she said. Collaboration is awesome. I want you to give me a little bit, you know, because, uh, my guy is on and I think you guys will be great to do a collaborative piece. Man, Why don't you give me a little piece of what you do so my god Kenny can hear what you doing. I think you know, you guys would be an awesome, awesome collaboration. I give you something, give me something, uh, just to ask I was for it since you talked about relationships right to say, not exactly what you think you wanted, but everything that you needed, what you least expected. Because when God give you a blessing, only asks when I properly love it, when my love's been tested, and everything that came before was a lead the weapon. You see. That's language when they talking about But she sweets, so when she speaks, she can spark a smile. I'm super deep, so when I speak, I can partner. Now she and her feelings, but won't tell he leave her heart that now. A lot of sisters telling her that she might as well trust with universes, telling her all my posts be on her life like I'm talking straight to her, no coincidence at all. It's feeling like fake to her. Yeah, and it's feeling like fake to me. A couple takes in her legs and it's feeling like great to me. Her ex Nigga was a prison she had to escape. To me, he told her she won't sweet enough. But that ain't how it takes to me. I got a track for you. I got hey look look look, look shout out to Kimberly. Kimberleys are closed you know, hey, look that was no look past right there. Hey, look, I think you guys y'all too right now we I mean you got a one stop shot with there and that that vocal piece along with what you're doing a you shot, y'all need to. I'm gonna make sure y'all connect. I got it. I got a traveling studio, brother, next, I'm producing all everything today to bring this book out. Everything. Yeah, yeah, facts go ahead. Kenny Wood was about to say, bro, I was about to play this track, but yo, hold on, hold only in the studio right now. That's what I'm talking about. It a lot. It's alta embrace me, come to you question. All right, that's a little bit. That's a little bit. That's a lot that I wrote verse. I wrote the verse already. That's a vibe that the background was like twenty what right? You see how that magic happened? Right? Yeah, that magic happened right, no doubt, no doubt. So we're gonna make sure that y'all connect, man, and sure yeah man, And we're gonna make sure that you know that's what happens when you talk about that that that magic, right, and you know what we do in terms of amplifying each other. Man, I think we got to do more that I don't understand for me. I mean, literally, we just one platform. Why would we compete when it's a billion people in the world, right, So we don't have any competition, right, It's just a way for us to all amplify each other and support each other. Look, look, way to go, Kenny. You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. And so for us, it's just kind of like making sure that you know, we stay together, continue to connect content you to put these things together. Man, fantastic and so you know, uh uh, miss d tell us what you're thinking right now. You hear what's going on. You've been kind of quiet. We want you to charm in. Miss talking to you, Miss talking to you. She told me not to say no. I am so into this. This is so nice you guys. What a way to have a nice ending to you know tonight. I love it. It's so nice. Nice you guys are jam jemen about. So look, Kitty, what would you like to see in twenty twenty four? Like, you know, it's a lot of things that's going on in the world that you know, you know, it's a lot of pain and a lot of you know, a lot of deaths. Actually, what would you like to see positives in twenty twenty four? Well, I mean, like I look like you might going out too. It's a lot of static. I don't know, I'm sorry, Yeah, I mean classy, you know, kind of had all of the bad news. Man. I would love to see, right, you know, some more positivity. Man. Everybody needs to love each other man, you know, you know, I don't think that lady, the officer that put that thing on that guy's back, I don't think she would want to be in that position, you know. And I think, you know, police officers and law enforcement need to understand. And I'm not saying don't do their job be a little more tax full than you and you should be trained enough something that's humane, you know, I know. Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying he didn't do anything wrong. I don't know. I wasn't there. But just to be treated like y'all, oh, that's all four. We can spread love and treat somebody like you want to like be treated. Don't be disrespectful, man, treat somebody nice. Man. You see an old lady walking across the street, or you see a youngster walk on the cree and help man, they need help, help them stop being so inhumane and nasty and negative. Just twenty twenty four. Gotta be different, man, it can't be. It can't be ever like it. I mean, I mean, year is propride of this. Just gotta be something different, not to not even next tomorrow, do something nice, you know what I mean? Not? I mean, we can't. We can't think about what happened yesterday. We ain't gonna see that day never again. We gotta be better. We gotta. We can't we and we can't tolerate that in our community. And we gotta stand ten toes down as they say, I'm just stand and fight up against this stuff. Man. When it comes to our marriages, we gotta fight against our marriage, we gotta fight for it. When it comes to our women, we gotta fight for our women. When it comes to our brothers, we gotta fight for them. I don't care what color they are, get be white, I don't care who they are. Fight for each other. They're human beings, not no color. They're human, right, that's right. And I'm glad that you brought that up because I want to my brothers, the twins, to chime in on that because they have a unique perspective. Why don't y'all chime in on that. Listen, man, I just it's funny that, you know, I hear a lot of and I know so it's two sides for me because I'm black and I'm a cop. I've been doing it for twenty four years and I'm not blind to what's going on out there. But I just want to say I know nothing but a bunch of good cops. Man. They're not perfect, and I know guys that going out there. I got an officer that's a good friend of mine. I took a bullet trying to save somebody. So I know some guys that do the job, and they really are, you know, the gold standard of what cops should be. But I'm not stupid. I know what goes on out there, and I actually sit on panels for people so we can try to figure out what we can do to fix what's broken between police officers in the black community. It used to sting my ears when I hear some of the things that people will say about cops, But I know why say it, So I stopped trying to take it personal, but I mean, I'm here to tell you I know a bunch of good cops. Man. I wish the people that have the perspective they have on cops do some of the cops that I know, because they're really good guys. Man. They're going out there just doing their jobs. And you know, it's a bad stigma on police right now. But I know a whole bunch of good cops. Man. I just wish those cops stories would be out there as much as you know, these stories that were talking about, because there's a lot of it going on. But it's a you know, it's a thankless job to begin with. Man, It's like, damn, you know, I hear complaints. Oh why do I see eight cops stand around on their cell phones doing nothing? Oh well, he ain't have to do that. It's like, damn if you do them if you don't. It is so hard to please people doing what we do. But everybody loves me. I mean, I'm just I've never had a problem. I've been doing this a long time and I've never had I hardly had any complaints against me. Don't think for one second that I haven't gotten into fights and people thought they was mistreated. But I mean, that's I've never been that guy. But I'm not here to let you do anything you want to do either. But I mean, I just I don't know what their answer is to fix what's broken. But I think it's something that we all got to get involved in it, try to, you know, make this better. And I was a police officer for sixteen years and I've been retired for god knows how long, got in twenty sixteen. But ye, like my brother said, the first thing people have to understand is that the police officers are human beings. And you know, when I was a cop as a supervisor, I would tell people all the time when they come in for a complaint, you're not mad at the police department. You're mad at a person in this person. You would be mad at that man if he was a library and then gave me the wrong book. Said, but you just it's cops, cops, cops. It's not all cops. It's that you're mad at one officer who wrote you a citation, and now you want to destroy every police officer in existence. And that's really how they look at it too. Man. It's like you know, they shy away or they run away from the bad per se or the uniform. And I'm telling you it's some good guys out there that if they go up as bad people, it's not just bad people. It ain't the cops. Its because they're bad people exactly. So the thing with this is, of course they don't report all the great things cops every other day, right, But just like they don't port every airplane that takes off and makes it to their landings, they only report the ones that issue. So this is the same situation with the police force. So we're only getting we're only privy to the the crap that happens, right, that makes the news, and then it becomes this huge thing, right, So for the ones that because and there's been you know, at this point there's been high numbers. So after this year and moving and since we're talking about moving into you know, twenty twenty four, Like from your perspective, since you've well, you are a cop and you used to be well and you're also like vice president of the union transit police and union, so you know, you have all these different layers to you from a standpoint of you know, just being in this authority place that's like supposed to be running our cities and our neighborhoods. What do you see that you feel needs to happen in terms of I don't know, is it the training? Is it the psychic valueuations for the cops that end up in these situations? So I can say my former chief, well he's no longer there for you know, for bad reasons. But he and I used to go head to head about the hiring process. For instance, that whole okay, you got to have sixty college credits and what the criteria was for hiring a police officer. Well, who do you think you're going to get if that's what you know marijuana was? And I know for cops why marijuana is a bad thing because it's certain places it's illegal. But if you have this standard of hiring that's only going to bring you a bunch of white cops, well then what do you you know, what do you think? I believe we need to diversify how we hire first of all, and then again times have changed, so like you just said, the training needs to change. You know, people, things ain't the way they used to be. But if you have these guys who come from the suburbs, you know, they never j walked, you know, they never dealt with our people, and then drop them down and try to deal with our people. I mean, well, what do you expect? And the reverse would be true too, but it probably wouldn't be the you know, the islets and the stuff that we see on our people. Like you can drop a black cop who's never been around white people in their neighborhood and I don't foresee that things happen there that happened in our communities because we're just not made like that. We don't normally think, oh, hey they're white people, they're bad. But unfortunately, I mean I can say this out loud sometimes they have that. I hear so many guys that I work with, they like their mindset is, we can't let the inmates run the asylum. Well, society is larger, not inmates. They're just people until they do something wrong. You know, you can't automatically think the worst in people just because you got to make They got to do something for you to think that. So that's, like my brother said, that's their mindset going in. It's not because they're cops. Their mindset was already messed up, but they felt they met the criteria to get on the job, but their psyche, their psyche valves need to be deeper, deeper, And that's what that's the point I was making in terms of maybe the psychic valves. Because you passed the training, you pass the test, you pass the physical, but did you pass whether or not that you were scared to go into that neighborhood? Absolutely, because that's the I feel like that's the thing. You're scared, absolutely, And somebody gonna pull a trigger or pull a gun quick if they're scared. So if you're scared to be around certain people or in certain environments, then you don't need to work in those minds the wrong you anyway, no matter what colored people are. Like you said, it's the wrong job. That's the wrong job. Man. My brother's been doing this for twenty three years and I did it for sixteen years. And I never fired a shot at anybody I know about it. I didn't have to fights. I'm talking about block parties. I wanted it well. They were my people, of course, but I didn't feel the reason that to grab my gun, my taser because I know how to take care of myself and I know that's only and I want you and I want you to hold I want you to hold that thought. But it just goes to the reason why I believe they need to do something different with hiring. It was this position of don't hire cops that's in that neighborhood. And for me, it's like, that's the best cops to hire because they know what's going on in their neighborhood. And so I want you to hold that thought because I gotta bring my brother back on. But hey, Yo, was like, hey, Yo, we love you doing, you doing the great job. You're doing a great job. Well articulated fan, great discussion. Kimberly said, Yo, so true, Katrina and said, way to go, Kenny. I said that already, pull but you shop one. I know you gotta get ready to go. You gotta get ready to tap out my brother. Why don't you give us one last word and first tell everybody where you at one mor again and then you know, give us one last word, you know before you roll out. Yeah, yeah, once again. Like I said, Man, I'm at DC, out of District Creative Institute here in DC, finishing up this holiday party. Slash toy drive man collecting these toys able to give out to families in the district. You should side for those who are listening not watching them. Man, you can. You can find me anywhere at y U s h A A S S A D on Instagram, social media, all of that at you should side just super dope, super dope to be a part of this. Thank you for having me back. I know you want to top five. We still want to do top five before you leave out your top five, yep? Is this the top five musical, top five moments, top five moment music, whatever you want to give twenty twenty three for sure? All right, Top five moments. One. I started off the year. One of my top five moments. I actually was dating a sister on this this TV show, this own network TV show called Love and Marriage DC. So that was an incredible experience. So that's one of my moments of this year. My daughter graduated eighth grade. Nice good stuff. That was cool. That was dope, but that's too, Thank you'll YEP. Dropped my fifth album on July twelfth, car Still Working Winning. July twelve is actually the death date of my father too, So July twelfth is officially working in Winning day. So every year we celebrate that. So that's number three, number four like that affirmation. If you're alive, you're working, working, then you need the wins. We're working and winning number four. I might give it to Killer Mike. That album is incredible and the second record on that album, with Your Shed Tears is an amazing record. Oh, he's well deserving of the Grammy now that he's got for that project. That project, man, just because I'm politically smart. My number fifth moment is being here and we talked weekly. You know that part I was. I was going to say that, you know you got another moment y'all about to do a collaboration thanks to we talked weekly. Yeah, I got more things. I got one more thing before you leave, though, give it your top five records, top five records, uh, shed tears, Killer Mike for sure. I got a record called Smile that's one of my top five for the year. That's gotta stay up there. I don't know if this record came out this year, but it's when I've been bumping this year. This record by PJ more than this other girl, Susan Carroll call good morning. I love that record. I stay on that PJ the singer style he was look I style him. One of my clients, Kendrick the Family Soul, he did a special with them. Is he a barber? Uh, he might be, but I know he's singing. Noo, he's singing. He's singing a couple of months. PJ Moore No doctor Ahead, Yeah, I rock. I rock with the with PJ. Moore. Man, that's my style of music. Dang, two more records. Na's got a record on Magic that I love, the whole Magic project. I love that joint that he The move that he making right now with hit Boy is just crazy. So Na's gotta get his kudos for everything he does. And my my fifth one is probably gonna be It's gonna go back to me. I'm gonna finish for me. I got a record called find a Way, produced by the dude named Johnny Gold who also produces for the DC Young Fly, But find a Way it came out in May, and I'm still pumping that record super hard, yo. So you know, anybody listening, check out find a Way, check out my song Smile. These are great records. Still pushing them as singles and they take off when they take off, But great records. There you go, he says, records. I loved that old school. That's old school, so so I just want to get you kudos again, my friend, appreciate you coming to the show. You already know you the family the show now you know, so you know before you leave one more again, tell every why how they can get in contact with you where you at and give one word to the people who as you leave out. Yeah, yeah, you can hit me at eight zero zero four hit you should side up on the low. Nah, that's some Mike Jones, Joe, Uh, you should side why U S A A A S S A D on all social media? Just tap in, man, I'm very accessible when the spirit is right. If I'm not accessible to because I'm wrong on your spirit and not can feel it, no doubt, damn my god, then you have you shut side everybody round of applause for you, my friend, and make sure you keep tapping and keep charming and we talk weekly. We really appreciate you, my friend. Piece out for you. He feeding them babies, man, you know, take a lot of pictures. Let me talk weekly. Know we'll put it on her and promote you a little bit more what you're doing. We need more people support and then standing tall back against the wall as she knuckles for them babies, you know what I mean. And we keep it like that, my guy, Kenny Man, so she go. You know we had you shout side man. You here, he got some he got some skills on him. Yeah, pipes, I hear something. Yeah, I'm gonna get at him for sure. Man. I he was gonna ask me my top five. I forgot to mention, be talking, but but I wanted to do mine over. But I'm like, nah, he just smashed it. So I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. So look, how about this. Give me your top five artists right now. I'm coming to you. So that gives you a little time, doctor debush. I'm not a doctor, well today you are, so Kenny, give me your top five artist. Top five artists is gonna probably be old school, not old school. I mean, I'm a Joe fan, right, I'm a Joe Thomas fan. Right. I'm a bust around fan. Yes, oh snap. Some of these names I can't even mention it because I'm a Brian McKnight fan. Okay, I'm a Brian McKnight fan. Uh. I'm a Rodney dark Child Jerkins fan. I'm gonna tell you rolly fan uh And I'm a Kenny J Fann no disrespect, but I gotta like what I do because I do it with my heart and my love and my passion for it. So that's where I'm at with it. Man, that's dope. That's dope. You know what we got. We gotta do like a uh uh, let me see lady in the building. So we gotta put this movie together, right, you don't have to be long. And then Kenny, you gotta score the whole movie. Don't worry. I'm ready and prepared, ready to go, you know what I mean. And then we got we already got right here. We got the twins, you go, there you go. So I was gonna take a problem. He even gonna have doctor Debora in the building. There you go. Yeah, which is a good transition to you. Now right, give me your top five artists. Oh my god, I'm terrible at this. Luther is definitely number one. I like Teddy Pendergrass. I like Kim. You gotta specify, Ki, Kim, k kay, come on, come on, all right? I love Yeah? How about that five? Did I say five yet? Let's see? I like a dell. I like the hell that been looking good, lady, she was looking amazing. She she went black and never went back. I'm just saying she changed the whole picture. Excuse me, color purple? You know, speaking of the color purple? Yeah, you know what I mean. So that's that's that's coming on in twenty three. That that's coming out twenty three, right Christmas Day? Interesting? Are y'all planning on seeing that and supporting that? So let's talk about your favorite moment of starting starting with you, doctor bruh uh your favorite moment of the color purple? Oh gosh, oh lord, m you don't that just about to say you don't hop to beat me? Okay, that's a really good one. I'll go with that one. What what what? What's that one? Is cool too? Right? Years? Everything you do, there's a couple things. What's up, kidd? You gave me? Give me one cad all my years I had to fight. Yes, twins, you're sitting at your own dinner table. Later, I got that nasty one, you know it? You know it looks like baseball that I like. I like when Cel put her fingers up and she said, everything you do, it's gonna turn right back on you. I may be black and I may be ugly, but everything you've done to me you joint and it ain't not better? Pick on it. What was her name? What's her name? Because my name ain't squeaked? Yeah, act Agnes something? Mary? Yeah and Mary, I don't get it wrong. Who is a Risen Marry? What? Classic? The fact that we know it just well man, Yes, classic indication, class class. It is a classic. But why I'm not going to see it because I'm not going to see mess it up. I just want to wait wait, I don't like every version is good though. Record scratch, that's the record scratch? Interesting? Wait wait well you're tearing up that recommend Wait wait wait wait wait wait please Fanny may is in that movie. That's my girl. Absolutely. I love Fantaging. They made a musical too, was like I love I don't need I love Fanny man, that's something new. Listen, listen when you talk about Fantasia and where she comes to you, have you seen her lately? Have you seen how she looks? Oh, she looks amazing, amazing, amazing everything, And so that's what. Yeah, because Fantasio looks amazing to you. Carry you gotta bumping the road, got bumping the road? Anything else? I need to say. Fantasia, right, that's my that's my girl right there, Fanny and so you you double Rihanna, you don no, that's my girl too. I can't have more than one saying that doctor, doctor d What do you have to say about that doctor? If you would, would your chime in? Please? Girl? I mean because he over here racking him up. Wow, Hey, look you know like you know that it's all fantasy, right, I knew there was a medical turn for that. Women want they don't know that's what yeh you know what's good speaking to exist? Really been listen y'all going to act like when that song come on, y'all be singing it? What just my imagination? He doesn't find that funny. I got something, I got something for it doesn't fair back. But she's been looking amazing. Shout out. And that's the thing we got to give credit to. Kudos to her stylists, right. I think one of the things me being a stylist, one of the things that happened when it comes to us is we don't get our flowers right. Everyone says, oh God, she looks amazing, not knowing that it's someone who makes her look amazing. And so the work that we do is important to highlights, you know, the people in the background, you know, and that's what this platform is for, to amplify it on people in the background. You know that what normally had that opportunity to shine right here right we talked advocate for the behind the scenes folks, you know, because it's a lot of work that happens behind the scenes of all the radio show, TVs, movies, the albums that you listen to, and you'll never see those faces, you'll never hear those names. So I'm always advocating for those people because I'm one of those people. But I always like to make sure I advocate for those people. And sometimes you'll know, you'll see it happens. Sometimes you'll go to an event or it is somebody in the room everybody knows and you're like, I don't know that person. You've never seen him, never heard their name. But they don't probably work with everybody that's some capacity because you know that's that that's that mover, that shaker it. They're the people that you want to connect with though, So when you're networking, those are the ones that you want to tap into. Nine times out of ten narrative ones that are the big, big networkers. They're those the ones that are bridging those gaps connecting folks and so you know a lot of times that's where the most money is too. Don't sleep, you know what I mean a lot of people gravitate to the faces and the talent rights and the and the artists. But if you pay attention, is the artists that are the ones that are constantly complaining and struggling to get their rifle due because you know, they stuff background. We got we go ahead, I'm listening to you. Didn't already everybody had the reality show and everything else, so we know that story, but God finish. You know, I wasn't telling the story. I was making a point the good old people behind these people, all the people that you yeah, it's the workers, the workers that that has all the ins and outs and knows what to do and what to say, you know, help you out. I was just talking about that earlier today, about we went we had our seventh anniversary in November, and it was the people that were waiting on us that we talked to them about our anniversary and they laid our anniversary out. It wasn't the front desk, It wasn't you know, the people that you expect to do something. It's the people who you meet, who you talk to day in and day out, and who you tip. Well, so it's always the workers that will get things done, you know, all the people in the background. No, but you know, I think that's something to talk about to it. I don't think people know that the beauty of tipping. You know, we just go along, go away. Some people don't get paid a lot, but even if they do get paid, well, it's just saying something, here's a little something, here's something I appreciate it about talking about with his agent, right, he says, I don't just deal with her from a capacity of me working for her, her working for me. It's a relationship. And he's like, I remember everything he said, her anniversary's, birthdays, he said all those things because he said, I'm making a relationship. He said, you know, I send little things here and there because you never know what they need. And see that's it's almost like that's his way of tipping in that sense. Right, But because he's built that relationship and you had that everything is about relationship building. Is so important. I try to tell people that your reputation precede you, and so you never know why you can't get in that door or while phone call and not being an answer. Nine times out of ten, they already know, you know, they already know about you. I already heard about it, So you know what I mean. So it pays you. It pays to be kind to everybody. You make an excellent point. And I think that's a great transition to say. Since you want to, you know, listen, go to we talk weekly dollar time, we talk weekly casht think a little deep, you know, send us a little something, a little something, you know. You know, we'll take the hot dog without the bun Paulse. You know what I'm saying. As we take the hot dog without the bun Paulse, you know what I'm saying. And so you know, kimber shut out the Kimberly Kimberly been Rod. What is the whole time? I'm keeping her up for the rest of the show. We only got about five more minutes. Yeah, k what is the whole time? You know? But you don't just take a little deep, you know, this is how we do what we do, right, you know, We don't get paid for this. We do this for the love of the blood, sweating tears. I got the twins out. They could be doing something else. You rather be rid when we talked weekly and we appreciate them. Doctor day, she could be doing something else. Hen't ride. We talked weekly. My god, Kenny Man, I got to put him to work tonight. Straight up, stay up. It's all good. I love it. I love it all in my head. I got it. I take I'm taking notes and everything I got sure. Look, Kimberley said, I appreciate y'all, but definitely have the support. What that's that's talking about. Make sure you support. We appreciate you, doll. The time we talked weekly, cash up, sending a little something man like we like. We like the presidents. You know, you can say some presidents, you know, so it's all good. We love them a lot. Shout out to Kimberly though she's been round. That's our co host for the day. Out to Kimberly. Absolutely, make sure you follow us Kimberly, Facebook, YouTube, all the way around so we can stay connected. We hear every Saturday eight pm to ten pm. This just was a special. This is our year, and we're all for the next two weeks because we got Christmas coming up, examiths or the holidays, and we have what else New Year's of course, you know. So I'm giving everyone off. I work them a lot, you know, so I'm giving say you can because when we come back, I don't want to hear I'm tired and I don't know. We got work to do in a new year, you know, we turning up. We like the seeing the Claus, mister Santa Claus that was here earlier, right, and so we got about three minutes left, you know, so why don't everybody goes? We go all the way around and uh, everyone gives like kind of like one last word to the people. Everyone's I start with the twins high at I just want to say shout out to we talk weekly for having us here. This is listen, this is a beautiful thing. We wouldn't want to be anywhere else. We're here. Don't listen to Charles. We ain't had nothing to do. Were we supposed to be in this room and it's all up we come anytime they want. Yeah, I just want to I just want to double down on what what what I think it was Kenny just said about we just got to increase, you know, love each other man, spread positivity and spread peace, and you know, let's let's let's do better people and you know, let's work together man and make some change out here. Man. That I like that, you know, I want to add to that because one of the things that we forget is one it takes one person at a time. Right. We can't keep saying this is what we should do. It should be what can I do? And that's very important because if you're showing kindness to one person, that one person could show kindness to one one other person, right, so we could keep it going one person at a time. So my kindness is to everyone that I need because I want people to remember, you know, how I treated them, not not exactly what I said, but how I treated them when they were in my presence. And I'm very conscious of that. So I always want people to realize that they are important, that they are special, and they are loved. And as long as each person does that, then we're doing our job. ROUNDO of applause for that, So Kenny holl let me, Kenny, man. Look, first of all, I want to appreciate everybody that's on the panel. Manag it's good to meet everybody. We talk. We talk weekly. The bomb, the bomb, the Bomb. Thank you guys for having me for sure, for sure, live love and have a great time at it. Man. That's that's what it is. Go pick up that new single, Lovers all we need. It's not really new, but it's got a dance. I did a remake, a dance remix to it, So pick that up. I want that to spread in the atmosphere. Love lover is all we need. If there's one thing we need in this world's gonna be loved and not love the wrong way, but love the right way. You know what I mean. That's what it is. So everybody have a wonderful holiday. Man, be safe, take care of your families, love them, kiss them because you don't know what tomorrow got, you know what I mean. That's what it is right quick. If any If you're looking to figure out who you are, who you want to be for twenty twenty four, check me out, check me out on Instagram and Nurture your Love. Go to my website Nurture Yourlove dot Com. I am here for you. I want to support you and whatever endeavor you're going through and I always remember, like I said before, you are important you or especially when you are loved, and I am here to support you throughout your journey because it's your journey, and your journey is important. Fantastic, fantastic. I'm kids look our guest co hosts virtually so Kimberly, you know, since you're listening, why don't you write something? Many chants, give us your last word while go to lady stop that, lady. I just I love everybody saying love. You know, love each other, love each other, love each other. Definitely do that and definitely love yourself. Right. If you don't take care of yourself, you're not gonna be good for nobody else. Sure and make sure you know as you continue to make these moves and you're working and you're winning A twenty four in the years beyond, don't be afraid to let people go. That's good, right, Okay, everybody is not supposed to be with you on that journey all the way through, and it's okay. Don't feel bad, don't feel guilty. It's okay. Every it's not a mistake. That good. I like that. Pause, that's let that let that sink in. That's sure. And you know, and I'm producing it and directing. Since everybody dropping stuff, you know, let me look for so you know, I won't be dancing all up in your video. You look for a first, you know, I got Yeah, that's funny. Look Kimberly waiting for you. You gotta hurry up. You got to hurry up and give it something. I'm lett I'm letting you ride out with it, you know, classy lady. I forgot to mention for twenty twenty three that I was awarded my Class five retail cannabis license. Yes, I'm still you know, still in that journey has been you know, challenging as a black woman in you know, in New Jersey. But anybody interested in you know, we are looking for some investors, and I do have a possible location organic and New Jersey has a whole lot of stuff over here. Besides just that, I know i'd be up there holistic stuff, do you remember, Yes, that's why people don't promote themselves. That's why check out the website at Banaorganis dot com. But outside of that, that's a health and wellness store where we have all holistic vitamins and stuff and then Uyana too, which my cousin and I are owners of a cannabis dispensary twenty twenty three. Like I said, my mother passed away. One thing that I've learned in life is that when you're gifted life, you're guaranteed that. And that's with anything insect to a flower. So what I do know is that you live life as if no one's watching you. And I know we say that we supposed to treat other people the way we want to be treated, but we don't even treat ourselves that well, we don't neat right, we don't sleep enough treat us to treat other people the way God treats us. That's what I say. So when you treat him, your fellow man, treat him like God treats you. Because you woke up this morning. That's it. Sparkle right there. Look, I will be called the poem, Yes we call it. We been called so look she said something to shout around the book, y'all put me on the spot. But final words for the evening, stay on you purpose with the purpose, and yes, to be in agreement with the sentiment of love. Giving you a round of a plug. Don't look man of the hour. You see you gotta you know, take us out and which I'll just see this. Listen, listen, listen, listen. It's a couple of things, two things. Host and creator of We Talk. We that's been here for how many started with the TV show. Now as we talk week after the talk, it's like two decades. Come on round. We always don't mind. I don't want to say nothing. It's about the people, right, I don't mean anything but people. But why, this is why, this is why the people are here and connected the nights because of you. We appreciate you. I got you appreciate I'll give y'all another round of a flaw giving it shout out to our virtual hole she jumped into around the But I'll say this. The first thing is people make uh the positive withdrawals in your life. If the withdrawals I waited deposits, you need to close that account. Don't let anyone bankrupt your life. And so you have to know your worth and know how important you are to people. Right, and the people who you know are sucking you dry, you need to cut that off. You know who they are, they say. When people show you who they are, you need to believe them the time the first time. That's real talk. And the last thing I have to say is about uh, you know the late thought doctor Martin Luther King. He said, the first step in faith is to take the first step. You don't have to see the whole staircase, just take the first step. And that's important. Man. We have a lot of things that we want to do, but we feel like we don't want to do it until it's perfect. You just have to do it, take that first step because you never know, and they may encourage someone else. So I in with that, man, And I want to just thank everybody. Look, Kimberly said, come on now, come on, shout out, shout out. So I want to appreciate everybody for tuning in today. Man, you know now you're talking to me. I know that's right, and I'm done, Mike driving shout out a charming man. And so I just want to thank everybody for tuning in the day we had a dynamic. Sure that was three hours, didn't seem like it right. And this is the time that we do it, you know, when we have like our special show. And so I'm really excited about just doing something like this because this shows that, Yo, we can do a three hour show, you know, and make it fun and entertaining and still of flying love and uplift everyone and for them to have a good time. And we don't have to necessary talk about what we're doing negative talk about and you know, showing things that's going on, and you know, we do things off the cuffs sometime. A lot of the stuff is I mean, that's what I do, you know, I talk for I talk for living right and certain things. I see it, I feel it, the stow it out there right, and that's the magic that happens with a show like this. So I want to thank you, doctor d embracing it. Thanks you, thanks for coming to the show. My brother Kenny, thanks for coming to the show. Yeah you lady, us got to be in contact with you, my brothers, you know, appreciate y'all. Man, you know, thanks for coming to the show. Thanks for riding out with it, you know, really appreciate you. Lady. Yes, Dot, you already know. I know you. That's my sister, so you already know class lady you alright, No, you're my sister, you know. All right, look it and then everybody tuned and then shout out the Kimberly twenty four and we out here, y'all. Pas, Yeah, alright, love, piece of love, play this out as we go out. So this is the last hold on. Somebody said hold on, Happy new yeah, Happy New Year to you too, and uh Yo said Troy and Trumper fire in the building, and hold on all their fans, right on their fans. And I gotta go out to something. Hold on, let me, I should shouldn't hold on. Don't go nowhere else that where I gotta find. Here we go. We out here, all right, y'all. Shock block block block block block of snot doctor block