We Talk Weekly 9_6_2025

And we're live. We talk weeklies after the talk on wppmol P Philadelphia one O six point five FM. We talked weeklies after the talk with your boy Charles Gerby and a beautiful Lauren and the beautiful ladies Sparcos definitely in the building. And today we have someone with whom I have a tremendous amount of respect for us a long time friend. We've been in these streets for a long time. You know, when we talk about public access media and reporting and doing the good deeds for the community, really reporting, we talk hyper local and and enhancing and amplifying those voices that truly need to be heard. She's been doing this thing for a long time. So super proud of this young lady, and we have her here today. So without further ado, who's doing the honors and introducing who we have today? Who we have today? I can do it. I'm fantastic. Well, give me the honors highlight. Today we have the beautiful, renowned Gabriella Watson Burkett. She's a Philadelphia based filmmaker, journalist, and storyteller with roots in Peru and Brazil. She's the founder of the Inti Media and in twenty twenty five, na hj Adelante Fellow with work featured on six ABC, WHYY and Philly Cam and Many Moore and her award winning documentary is It Bay Bye Flowers? It still has folks talking. Let's give a warm we talk weekly. Welcome to Gabrielle Watson Burkett Bay. Super excited, super excited, super excited. How are you? How are you? I'm great, Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to be here. You guys fantastic. We're excited to have you. And you know what I would like to do anytime that we have someone on the show, I like to walk our viewers through not only your process but kind of like your your movement of where you begin to where you are now. And you've been doing a lot of work pretty much alongside us, you know, and I'm super excited that you have been very how can I say it, intentional with the work that you have been doing. So let's start from day one. Because you're you're a filmmaker, storyteller, you're a producer, you produce number of shows. Super fantastic and excited that you're a journalist too. When we're reporting, when we talk about civic engagement, and we'll go into that because you're again alongside we talked weekly again with your work with every Voice, every vote, and we'll talk a little bit about that, but let's start with your Yeah, producers had Okay, what made you get into producing and storytelling with the narratives that you create and tell those stories? Yeah, thanks for the question. I think if you go back to the roots of that, we're really talking. You know, Gabriella, you know, sixteen years old in Brazil watching a Spike Least, you know, Malcolm X movie or do the Right thing. That was it was a transformative experience, you know, as an Afro Brazilian who didn't see a lot of representation of positive you know, black representation on screen. You know, I grew up in the nineties and that wasn't really a lot of you know, black faces there, especially in mainstream you know, in journalism, mainstream characters. So that film Malcolm X, it was, it was shocking. I was like, that's what I want to do, you know, because I felt like I learned so much about history, even though it wasn't my country. I'm like, oh, you know, like black people do have a rich history that I'm not being taught at school. And then I love how how I learned about it, right through films and the music and the costumes. I'm like, that's what I want to do. I want to do. I want to create that impact on people, you know, to tell about our stories in a way that is so engaging and beautiful. You know for those who are not aware, because there has been a few people when you say afro Latina, they're like, what what does that mean? Right? And most didn't even know that that even existed, right, So why don't you explain or extrapolate the concept of afro Latina and then we'll go from there. Yeah, of course, it's you know, uh, you know, Charles and Lauren Sparkle right there, it's afro Latino. It's it's a new term, and it's very popular here in the US where you have this huge, you know, Latina population. You know, some people call it Hispanic. I prefer Latino because it's more comprehensive. That includes like countries like Brazil, which are not Hispanic because we were colonized by Portugal, so we are more we are considered Latino and Latin. You know. It's those folks who are from Afro descent, right, who came also from Africa, who went who came through slavery, you know, is lavement process. They were not slaves, they were you know, turned into his slavement process and got to Brazil, got to the whole you know, Latin America, the Caribbean, Peru, and they're everywhere. But we don't learn about this. And that's what we call the diaspora, right, the African diaspora. But it's something that even in Brazil we struggle to see because we are we are the country with more black people outside of Africa, like you know, we're talking now, more than fifty percent is Afro Brazilians. But we're not aware that in Peru, you know the country of my parents, there are black people because people often think of indigenous you know, the Indian Lamas, but they're actually there is expressive Afro Perugan culture in Chile, in Argentina and in Argentina. You know, when you talk about you know, the eighteen hundreds, most of Argentina and country were you know, was after Argentina actually, but they actually were very intentional about killing these you know, these people of African descent, pushing them towards and then cleansing the population, you know, to be coming out. They call it the European you know, South American country, and you know, I rolled my eyes because it's just that that thing of always claiming the European ancestry but trying to stay away from the African ancestry. Yes, yes, yes, thanks for that. And I have heard terms like that, you know, right, how how does that fit along within the culture. Yet you know, it's more a body equock term Embordico is Puerto Rican and it's people you know, of indigenous descent. So it's not that's my understanding of it. I am not Puerto Rican and that's all so another you know, ancestral ancestral like claiming our ancestry, right because the Tinos were the original people of Puerto Rico. So now we're talking about claiming that in a positive way because often when you go to this to the whole Caribbean and Latin America again, most people are very excited to claim the European ancestry, you know, versus being proud of being Afro or indigenous descent. Yeah. Yeah, that's I like the time that we're in now, because what's happening is we're digging and pulling back those layers to find out exactly who we are claiming our indigenous rights, so to speak. So I'm loving the movement to do that within the cultures. Right. So we talked a little bit about your background, your ancestry and moving first. Is anyone else in your family had when it comes to storytelling or are they in the field. Do they look at you and say, I love what you're doing. Tell a story about us, Like, what's the sentiment? Yes? I think, you know, it's interesting. I think if you get the definition of what the storyteller is, right. I don't have a direct person like that, but you know, I started INTI Media because of the works that my parents did with INTIWASI, which was a non profit organization to support Peruvian immigrants in Brazil. And you know, I grew up as an immigrant, as a daughter of immigrants in Brazil in San Paulo, and both of my parents are from Peru and they came to you know, pursue his studies and there they saw this lack of support for the immigrants, specifically the Peruvian community. So that for me, when I had to think of a name of an organization to continue, you know, the legacy of support service. I thought, you know, I need to claim int media, you know, and that's kind of using the same goal but shaping to what is my skills? What is you know, what I want to do with his storytelling and media and advocacy. Well, fantastic, fantastic spark. You had something. I see it looks like you're mute. I was, Okay, Gabrielle, can you hear me? Yes? Awesome. Now that you're here in Philadelphia and with all of the all of the beautiful culture from Peru, Brazil and Philly, how do you intersect those types of world together to create what you do? Yes? Thank you, Thank you for that question. You know Philly, I call it Philly home and it feels it feels amazing. You know, my husband's here to testify it. I when I got to Philadelphia around eleven years ago, and it feels like it's just two years, but you know, my kids tell me that it's not. It's been longer. I just have this sense of freedom and of just fitting, like I found a place that I could fit, that I could also do my work and found, you know, find my space in the middle of this amazing community that we have here, and for me, it also speaks to the community of creators that I try to bring together. At Intermedia. We do focus on Latino you know, Latine stories, but also bridging with black and brown communities. So we do have stories that also focus on Latino but also Black Americans, Indigenos, you know, Muslims, Asians, because nowadays everything is intersected. If it wasn't before, today definitely is a lot of the social issues that we speak are connected, interconnected to the different communities that we talk and we are, you know, we are a community, a diverse community that we interact with everyone, a melting pot. And although we have there is specific you know, specificities of each community. The truth is that we will only accomplish change if we stand up all together. And that's been shown when we see the attacks on various communities if immigration or is racism. You know, if we don't stand up all together, it's going to be a lot harder to accomplish change. That's why it's important for me to you know, to say, hey, this is you know, this is for all of us. So I'm glad that you mentioned you know, some of the things, especially when it comes to social injustices that are affecting specific targeted communities right now with what's going on when it comes to a lot of the political issues, and I I really enjoy one of the short uh uh oh, I'm sorry. I really enjoy one of enjoy the short short documentaries that that now you guys did, which was the food truck film that you did. And I think what stood out for me when I was listening to what the people were saying was that they're they're targeting, you know, certain communities, and they're supposed to be claiming to go after criminals and all these things, but they're harassing people that are you know, trying to you know, support the community that they have the food trucks and and they come up with the curfew and all that, and they're finding them and it's so unfair. Like when you know, you were out talking to these people, what were some of the things that that they were saying to you that was most concerning to them, you know that with what was happening to them. M Yeah, sure, Yeah, that was a that was a great story that we were able to report, focusing on the a new a newly founded organization called Latino Food Truck Association, And actually they decided to start an organization because of the curfew that were that was affecting them and they were not able to operate you know, the food trucks past eleven, which was really detrimental to their you know. To their being able to be sustainable. And so it was it was really touching because when we went to talk to them, they were very excited and we can't we could tell all that they wanted to talk, they wanted that space. So in a lot of oftentimes it's it's really rewarding just to create that space that community can voice their concerns. And I will go with intermediate is to really make that bridge with local government so they can see the claims and hopefully we can raise awareness and you know, spark solutions whold you know, hold accountability and and create that long lasting relationship with them. I want to go ahead and spark. Oh I was just saying awesome, But I do have a question, Gabriella, do you speak Portuguese and. Spanish seeing or following. So by you speaking Portuguese Spanish English, does that sometimes like with your writing voice, does that sometimes shift the way that the audience receives or the way you have to deliver it. Yes, absolutely, Yes, we try to do it multi lingual in terms of putting information with captions and also when we put the articles translate in Spanish at least and in Portuguese too, and it's different. Yeah, definitely, the way that we communicate in you know, in Portuguese it's very friendly, very you know, we don't even call people missus or miss mister like you know, growing up, I never called my professor's mister vice. We call it by the first name. You know. Is that culture so and you know, I remember coming to the US, somebody, you know, flagman say it's missus blah blah blah like so I didn't mean to be disrespectful, just culturally that's how we talk. So there there's a lot of that, and you know, so you need to be aware of especially when we do the captions. It's not just put it on AI and translated. You actually need to make sure it makes sense when you translate. So that's another layer off work. Yeah. Yeah, I did notice that when I was watching it, it was like you know, you were it was being translated like when someone was speaking Spanish, it was the English translation and then when there was someone speaking English and then it switched. To So I like that. I was like, Oh, that's awesome that way, you know, you know, everybody knows what's you know, being said and what's going on. I like that. Yes, fantastic. So you're the founder, executive director, and editor in chief of INTI Media, right, media organization dedicated to producing multi lingual news and documentaries that inspire change. So let's talk a little bit about that, because that's a testament to your work again and some of the curiosities that you explore or as it relates to not only you, but your culture and your people. Right. We're huge advocates, and I'll put the invitation out there if you have any information news that reflects your community, send it to us. We'll leave a space out there for on our website for that, right, because we believe in how diverse not only Philadelphia is, but when we talk about true hyper local news, it's inclusive of everyone, right, not just one person, right, or one community. So that said, right, all of the storytelling in journalism that you have gotten into, was it any aha moments that you had that you're like, yes, I'm in the right space with what I do. Yes, throughout my. Whole well season of media. When you going to media, any media and some of the work that you're doing now, was it something? It could be anything? What was a huge aha moment to say I need to start doing this work. Yes, well you got me thinking to us, I think again, we need to go go way back when. Yeah. My first documentary was We Afro Peruviansanos, which was an investigation to understand more of my own heritage. You know. Again, I grew up with my parents in Brazil and I didn't hear much about Afro Peruvians. So I said, I just want to go back and interview you know, Lauren and talk to folks. And that was born my first you know, short documentary, which was like a very simple camera, very like you know, amateur, but it was transformative in a way that the conversations I had with fought books were so you know, transformative and reaching and lightening. And even with the quality of the material not being you know, one hundred percent, people wanted. To see it. And you know, we will have exhibitions and people will come and say thank you for sharing this. We don't actually have access about this this this content either you know in Sniper Zil. So it was like I said, I was at a ham moment for me. Wow, you know, so it wasn't about again just having the amazing picture, which I considered super important, but at that moment was about the message. So for me, I said, wow, you know, I this is what I love doing again and you know people coming here because they want to learn more. So I said, yes, that's what I would like to continue to do and improve on that. Right, you're decorated documentarian. Now you want Flowers for what is it how I want to miss mispronounce? Is it Flowers? Is that how you say? I said, right, let me get myself around them. Okay, so let's talk a little bit about that and what inspired you to create the characters. He yes, yes, so Flowers it was my thesis for my mf A. So what got me to Philly was to pursue, you know, my master in fine arts because after Spikely, you know, when I was fifteen, love to I love to go to the Mecca. That for me, that's why how it felt for me, That's how I was seeing, you know, I want to go to the mecca of films of you know that represents black people and learn from them. And I had always this dream and it, you know, took a lot of years because it's very expensive for you know, foreigners to study here, and it took you know, you have to have all the certificates English blah blah blah or this proficiency. So finally happened, you know, the stars aligned and I was able to come to Philly to pursue the m faith and then the thesis for that program was had. We had to do a real film. So when thinking about how I wanted to follows, which is again this first documentary that I did, I wanted to again continue exploring you know, documentary language because I love that intimate approach and focusing on education and on women, you know women Black women who want to make a change through education and through understanding a more affrocentric way of education. It made a lot of sense. You know, I met first, I met first my teacher in San Paulo Prizillo, and after I met her, I'm like, she is amazing. She needs to be on a documentary. You know, I found my person because you know, making documentaries is that you have to have that that feeling you know of someone who has like a very interesting story, who feels comfortable on the camera, you know, who holds you know, who has many layers. Who So when I met Priscilla, and she will talk about her study in education, how she chose like the worst school in the city, which was like two hours from downtown to teach because she wanted to create a change in the community again mostly Afro Brazilians and everything that she will bring up. It was another hard moment and I'm like, Okay, yeah, Priscilla, it's amazing, it's fascinating. She is a mom, she is a leader, and is a person that you want to just hear, you know, those kind of people actually feel like you want to just hear forever. So I was looking for another teacher here in some power in Philadelphia, and through friends, I got to Nianza. You know, Nianza, I love you Nianza. And she is from West Philly, you know, yes, and you know, daughter of another teacher, very invested in her community. She used to teach Overbrook when I met her, and then at that moment, like she was relocated to Edison High School, which she didn't ask for. So it was shocking because she said, I you know, I give, you know, I give my life in Overbrook. I live you know, blocks away from this school, and now they're relocated me. So it was very crucial timing for her. I was able to follow her through the years, which is also a great thing to do, you know, through a documentary, to like, you know, bild with someone through years and build that connection. So we did that and the result was it was very rewarding for myself, and I hope, uh you know, you know, I believe it was impactful for the communities that we filmed. We were able to get the you know, this recognition at Black Star for Best Documentary Short Audience Award, which was so so humble to get it, and and it is beautiful. You know. It's just again just this moment of connecting communities, you know, through a film and feeling closer. Right, Geryl, you kind of answered it, but I'm gonna just ask it anyway. So you spoke a Spike Lee, and I love Sparkly. I don't think there's not one. Movie he didn't make that I didn't see. But after Spike Lee, there was a lot of women who. Are trying to come into the industry. You got ray Ava Duven, Tanya Saracho, what's my girl, Randa Shine Randa. Yeah. So as you as a woman of color coming into this field that mostly was male dominated, what are you doing to make it where other young women can see you and say, hey, she made it easier for us to you know, to join in. Yes, absolutely, and thank you for mentioning all this, all these these amazing filmmakers there and Avad definitely definitely is an inspiration for me. So I'm glad you you talked about her and all the other women that have been challenging right mainstream film in directing and authors, the scriptwriting and again with intermedia. We tried, we try not. We are intentional about creating space for Latine bipop and women in leadership position in all you know, the creative spaces. But for example, I make sure that we we have women also other directors, you know, other women produce producing. That's important. New generation I have, you know, some young talents that want to be close, so we create space for them as a d as assistant directors and producers too, because you know, part of the of the mission is to also encourage them, you know, in this in this creative path. It's not easy. Like you said, it's very well nominated, it's very hard to break in. It's very hard to establish a career, you know, in film. But we need to help one another. So it's important for me. That's something that's very important for me to reach the gap. If you look at our team, it's very woman led in terms of the managers, in terms of the editors, and that's something that we're proud of. I'm proud here too. And you're knocking on the door of your name because of all the recognitions that you know went over and it wasn't even didn't even touch them all, even. In your bio. So thank you for your contributions as well. Thanks fantastic, fantastic. So now this is this is where I start to put on the CIVICS hat, right, you and I, well we talked weekly in your organization has the pleasure to be kind of partners within the organization of Every Voice, Every Vote right when you think of CIVICS, right, one of the things that I wanted to make sure, as it relates to the Parkers within Every Voice, Every Vote cohort, is to amplify their voices. Right. The work that they're doing within the civic space. Right. We are so busy doing like our own stories, right, addressing civics, you know, addressing the work that we're doing. But I think oftentimes you guys don't get acknowledged personally for the work that you have been doing. So we started this cycle with amplifying voices of what you guys are doing. Right. So the question I have for you to start is when you think of civics, right, what's the first thing that comes to mind? And what are you doing to continue to engage civically in network? Yes, exactly. That's something that we often talk about, you know, with among the team, the collaborators, as we try to encourage the community to engage more civically, Like what does that mean? Right? Even when we talk to the community, Oh, we're doing civic engagement and folks who ask, is that just election? And it's not right? So it's really you know, when we talk about civic engagement, it's it could be like from gardening to the food pantries, to being on the neighborhood, to go into education collectives, anything that you can do like community wise, and for me, my passion again is bringing together the media and going to the communities. That's how I feel like I made my civic engagement, you know, quota. It's using my skills to go to get closer to my neighbors, to my community, to different communities that I don't even know right Like the other day, I went to like Strawberry Mention and is a neighborhood that haven't been that often, you know. But I've been to you know, the Northeast because there's a lot of Brazilians there. I've been to South Philly because there's a lot of Mexicans there. I've been to Southwest because there's some Brazilians there. So for me, it's one I'm exploring, you know, Philadelphia. I'm learning about Philadelphia. I'm reporting and giving space for you know, my fellow you know, community members, you know, their Latino or people of color and let's talk about your issues. And people feel, you know what, I have a really good response about the community having that space. They're like, oh, thank you for listening, you know. And that's crazy because I don't think we actually listen to each other nowadays. So people say thank you for listening to my you know, to my story, because I love that and I feel like that's part of my work, but as there's also a passion as a human being. I love storytelling. So sit down, tell me about you. Tell me about your family. How did you get here? Tell me about you know, your kids? And now I'm a mom too, so I can relate to that too and that. But we're bond, you know, I create something greater with them than just oh, I'm reporting here, Tell me what happened? How many bodies like that's not it? You know that reporting that we do that it's civic engagement. It's that it's relationships, you know, it's understanding each other, and it's long term, you know, with. So many different things I guess going on now and and in our communities right now when it comes to minority communities, for us, we we're hearing things like, oh, some of the concerns are you know, youth gun violence and public safety and things like that. What are some of the things that your team is hearing? Are you know, major concerns for I guess the Latino community. Yes, yes, well, I guess you know it comes to mind. It's the fear that we have that we've been living right now with you know, deportation. Yeah, there's nothing great, there's nothing going to be dead issue. It's and it's just said, it's said, it's horrible, it's horrific. It's it's a sad moment, you know, and it's you know, as I read more about you know, the history of depretations is not it's not nothing new. It's not anything new. So that's the part that we're trying to understand more. You know, we have you know, talked to some historians to understand more about you know, the moment that we're living now. We just interviewed for us Johanna Fernandez Hernande's, you know, the the author of Young Lords. You know, this is a claim book, and she was telling us about, you know, the myth of democracy and how many times communities of color have been targeted and push away, you know, like Mexicans have been pushed away many decades ago, Asians as well. So we're living history on repeat. You know what does that mean for us? You know, where do we go from there? So those are the questions we ask ourselves as we are living through this moment. What advice could you offer you know, to your you know, to both to all of our communities who are listening and watching, watching now like things that they can do to help and support you know, people who are free to come out and ask for help, or who don't you know, or or in fear leaving their homes and and and they may know someone that they can help or or you know, they can just give them advice. Like yes, well, the biggest advice that we got again from therapists other people who came through the podcast, is we healing community. That's not my phrase of my exactly. You know, we had a therapist, uh Calisia, and she's amazing, she's from Ancestral Healing Collective, and she said were healing community. And when she said that, it was so profound because that's that's true, you know. So I say, let's let's look for each other. Let's you know, look for support in our own neighbors. Is our in our own community members, because at this point, obviously there are attorneys who can support us with the legal things and the organizations. There are so many organizations that support immigrants in Philadelphia, you know, nationalities Steyer, Puerto Rican, you know, Congress. So I can going on about it, but this you can find on you know resources, but you know, we need to look for people who offer comfort and how to feel you know, how to feel better because it's devastating to you know, go on social media and see that you know, immigrants are they are working here, they're supporting our economy being taken out as animals being treated worse and animals like what is that? So you know, I would say, let's support one another. That's the only thing that we can do right now. Yeah, you mentioned that your husband is there supporting you. You mentioned your children. How's the creativity in the house and how do they support you? Yes, the creativity is and how is it it's it's it's through the roofs. Yes, my husband, he is my partner. He is also a photographer, a creative. He's born and raised in Philadelphia, So we have a lot of fun exploring the city and sharing about store. And the girls. You know, they're still toddlers. You got baby babies. Yes, they are three and four, so they're just learning how to be creative. That's you know, that's beautiful. That's princess time when you can still mold them and teach them stuff and when. They get older. As long as you teach someone they're young, it stays with them. I bet you Dad is spoiled rot and got them spoiled rot. You know, I want to know. I just want to back up, because you were talking about some of the people who are nervous and really scared. Do you have any resources that for those who may be watching this right now that may be in, you know, that that space of being terrified or scared or not knowing what they do. Do you have any resources that you can give to someone right now who may be watching us? Yes, yes, thank you for asking that. Yeah, if you go to our website intermedia dot org, we have a guide for allies as well as immigrants on how to react. You know, the guide that was produced by talented journalist vikidi As Camacho and one of our collaborators, and she put together this information, this amazing set of information on what to do right because that's why we got a lot of questions from friends, neighbors, Gabriela, what do I do you know? If I am, you know, arrested, if somebody I know is arrested, who do I call? How do I found out? How do I react? Should I walk with my with my driver's license? Should I walk with my passport. So those are alleged questions and very important questions. So we put together these guide people can download. It's in English, Portuguese and Spanish. And also our first podcast, we have Erica from Junto's. She's this acutive director of Juntos, who is a very important organization led by immigrants here in South Philly, and she also provided with very value, valuable information for people that can hear it. Yeah, make sure you send it to us. We'll post it and make sure that we support her and amplify. One of the things that I was super excited about and I'm proud and I will continue talking about this is we had someone about the name of Codida on our show before. She talked a little bit about those returning citizens that didn't know that they can vote once they got back home. We aired the show one day, this gentleman was crossing the street and seeing me. He walked across the street and broken English, so I couldn't hear too much, but he just kept saying thank you, thank you, thank you, And I didn't know what he was talking about until he said your show. You and we talked weekly and I was like yes, and he pretty much said, because of your show, I was able to vote because I didn't know that once I got back home from returning as a returning citizen, that I now had the right to vote. And so we were excited to be able to amplify that message for those who believe or who knows now that they're able to vote once they get back home and you're no longer right. And so that was a big deal for me. And so this is why we do shows like this so someone else might be able to see what you just said, that little nugget and be able to make some type of life changing decision based around the information that they just got. So thank you for that. Before I let you leave this, this Jesus went so fast. You have done so much work. You have been changing our lives. There's so many What is the legacy that you would like to leave? Oh, it's so hard to answer that, Ques. You know, I just want to leave good stories, good content, you know, stories that survive time. Okay, that would be amazing. You know they still resonate five ten years from now, because that's what happens. You know, I remember a profession said a good film Gabriel no body forgets. You know, you can go decades. So my hope is that stories full resonate through the younger generations and people feel inspired to continue to be together, you know, and do together for the next generations. Fantastic, fantastic. Is it something that we haven't covered today that you would like everyone who's you one the viewers to know? It is anything? No, thank you. I think you guys covered everything from the kids. Is there anything that you have that you're working on that you have coming out in the next year or so. We know you're doing every voice, every vot. Is there something that you would like to kind of highlighter? Yeah, well, thank you. I think I love to invite people to our We have a screening coming up. Well, we're going to showcase the work that we have doing this this year in terms of the shorts, in terms of the document short documentaries. It's going to be October twenty eighth. Here I feel like camp. So I'd love to invite folks to come and pack the house, let us know what they think, visit our website, send stories, you know, and thank you guys for having me on the show. It's been a pleasure absolutely, Thanks for coming but we can't let you leave without your telling us how people can get in contact with you and that stuff. Yes, of course, please make sure to go on the website intermedia dot org and follow us on social media at News by Intermedia, on Instagram and Instagram and also on Facebook LinkedIn threads. All right, there you have it, ladies and gentlemen, Miss Gabriella Watson. So I don't want anyone to go anywhere. It was an absolute pleasure to have you on the show. And once you know, one thing that we always say on the show is once you come to the show, your friend to the show. So you're always welcome to come back. And if you have any information some big news announcements that you have that you feel like you need help amplifying that we talk. Wely know we got you because we're definitely for the community. Right, So I don't want anyone to go anywhere. I'm your boy, Charles Gregor with the beautiful. Lawrence and the beautiful classic sparkle, beautiful Gabriel. And you're watching. We talked weekly after the talk on w PPM o P Philadelphia one on six point five FLM. We talked weekly after the talk. I don't want anyone to go anywhere because when we come back, we have another dynamic interview and I can't wait to talk to this sister. I got a bone to pick with her. But don't go nowhere. We'll be right back, y'allse. So we just want to get a little background as to who are Fantastic Noises and the noisemakers if you can let us know, yes, absolutely so. Once again, I am fantastic noise. I am the original noise maker. So no one's would make as much noise as me. Okay, And right here we have the Noisemaker band. This is only half of it. The other stuffs are upstairs, the my Kevin, Kevin, Lamar, Lannie and Dobs who are the actual band members. These are the background singers and we can to make some noise. We can to bring that noise today. So that's that's what which I would do. That's right. How did you guys get together? Man? So it started with I've been doing this on my own for almost three years now. And man, I guess each of these people here have different background stories. Most of us went to the same church together and we just kept going. This one her, this is my one of my assistants said, one of. Like the my my biggest support of my biggest shuitary. Hear, she's assistant. So we just been building and the same thing with upstairs with the band, just meeting through people, kept networking, kept seeing them. It was just like God or dang bab here we are awesome. What could you guys do? We talked weekly A favor? Yeah, can you give us a drop in a melody type way? A type way? Okay? So we talked weekly. Yeah, so we're gonna do something like this. Wait talk weekly. Come in here with us, wait talk. We come in here them we talk. We come in here now we talk. Come in here, we talk. We come in here now we's tarp make me come. In Were back in the building. Were back in the building. I try to stop it before we was talking, were running our mouth. We couldn't get into it. So we talked weekly. After the talk with w P P M O P Philadelphia one on six point five, when we talked weekly after they talk with your boy Charles Gregory and beautiful Lawrence and the beautiful classy lady Sparkle. I'm gonna try to tell me as I get this cam I'm already and prepare for our next guest. Why don't you tell me what did y'all think about that interview? About but Gabriella? She I could listen to her all day, all day. Her her stories were just amazing. I love all the work that they're doing her and her team, the documentaries, the films. She's going to be in another couple of years, she's just going to be. Oh man, she's gonna be all over the planet. I'm telling you like that. The work that she's doing is just so much needed right now. Totally agree. Same. I echo with SIZZL said. The thing I love is that it's so seasoned, you know, women of color and not saying other women don't, but that just brings so much flavor and culture. Like she mentioned, she speaks she's Peru, she's resilient, she speaks Spanish, Portuguese. She has so many different lays, and all those layers makes it so interesting that when you're looking through that lens in that camera, your perspective is so so different that you're able to deliver it to a multitude of different types of people who can capture something from so many layers of that. So I agree with you. Like I said, she's going to be up there with the the Ava Duvernees. And Shonda Rhimes. Her name is definitely gonna be mentioned, like like Sizzle said, in a couple of years with them. She is standing on business on her own. So yeah, what do you think? See amazing? Amazing? But you know what's more amazing our next guest, I'm going to get her one. So why don't you let us know? Who do we have today? Who we have today? Today? We have another amazing guess we have Marcia and Cole is a transformational leader. She's a registered nurse, an author of Shadow There Yet Unbroken, and the visionary behind Faith Focused and Finished Strong Zoom Talk, where she uses her powerful testimony of faith and healing to inspire others. She boldly amplifies the often silent conversation you're gonna like this one see about domestic violence against men, especially in the black community. She empowers families with tools for mental, emotional and spiritual spiritual restoration. Y'all already know what to do. Give a warm talk, Warm we Talk weekly. Welcome to the beautiful Marcia. Cole, Fantastic, fantastic, Marsha Cole. How are you, How are you. In yourself? How are you guys? I'm fantastic, fantastic, Thanks for coming on the show. Thanks for coming on the show. Now is it really quick? Is it? Marsha and Marcia? It's Marcia. You had it when you when you said my name the first time. I was like, yeah, because it because people do sometimes say Marsha, don't that? So I was like, I didn't know if it was Marcia or Marcia. Okay, Marcia, sorry about that. Yeah, I'm a little biased because that's my little sister named Marcia. You know, she's spelling with a why though and a y a not I A so. But it's all good, right and so real quick, how was your day? How are you feeling out there? I'm actually getting over like allergy, sinus infection something, so I've been sleeping all day. Mm hm, she said, no doubt, no doubt. Now I'm gonna jump right into it because this is dealing with a topic that's really really heavy. Right. Uh, but before we get into your book, jump into your book. I thought it was an amazing book. By the way, I want to give you your flowers for that. What Let's start from the beginning, right, the circumstances that you wrote this book, right, and we'll get into that made you an author before this particular incident happened, Right? Did you want to write any type of books outside of what this is or did this inspired to you to create this literary piece? Before my brother transitioned at August in twenty twenty, I was already on the path to write in a book about my life story about me being a fatherless child and me finding my voice and my identity in Christ. So I was already on the path of becoming an author. But then when he transitioned, God was like, you thought you was going to write this, No, you're going to write about this journey. And you have siblings, right, have any of your siblings or even your parents so to speak? Because I know you, which was a good to hear. You spoke about your father a lot, so that was good to hear. But did any any of your siblings or anyone in your family have uh, aspirations of writing or you know, do anything that encourage you, encourage you with storytelling? No? Really, no, not at all? Interesting? Interesting? What? So okay, So now I'll I'll jump into it because I want to I want to slow walk this because this is heavy, right, and I'm a little angry at you, right, I'm a little angry at you. And it's not bad, it's just that it was triggering. This was very triggering for me, very extremely triggering for me. And it's and it's a it's a good trigger because what it does is shines the light on uh situations or issues that normally it's quiet, it is normally unspoken, or it is normally uh thought that oh y'all can handle it, because y'all don't necessarily matter, right, or y'all strong enough, it doesn't matter. But we do matter. Men do matter. Right. And since since we're on the topic, and I struggled with how I would do this interview, but I think what would help is for me to start taking out certain passages that inspired me to to talk a little bit more about what's going on. Are you okay with that? Yes? Because so first and foremost right, I want everybody to see this book right here, right, shattered yet unbroken, amazing, amazing read right now. Because we're we're on this channel, right, we can't necessarily give a call to action about you know, a book and what to do. But all I will say is you definitely want to read a book that inspires you for change. But before we get into it, right, because I know, I like talk about the book and I will, I will. I know it's getting everybody like I'm gonna get there, because that's that's what That's what makes us great storytellers, right, that's what makes because you want to have people think about, like, yo, like what's going on in this book? And I'm going to get there, ladies and gentlemen, But I want to know a little bit more about this young lady here. So Marcia, why don't you tell me a little bit about like your background and your family. Why don't you walk us through you know, your upbringing and all of that. Yep, Okay, So I'm from North Carolina. So I'm a country girl, which most people will say, girl, you from Maryland because I've been in Maryland since like grade school. But I am not going to allow anyone to take away my southern roots. So my mom had me at a young age of twenty. My father wasn't in my life. So my dad that I talked about in the book is actually my brother and sisters dad who raised me like his own, and so I grew up in North Carolinada and we transitioned to the state of Maryland, and very shyygirl. I was a very shydgirl growing up. I'm not the one that's gonna volunteer to speak, to get up in front of people to talk like I don't want the teacher to call on me in class. I was very shygirl, very insecure because I mean, I know, you can't really see here, but have a lot of freckles on my face. So I'm a black girl. I don't see nobody else around me that look like me because I don't see nobody else with these the dots on their face. So I just hated myself growing up, and so as I grew older, and when I when I finished high school, I finished high school, went off to school. I'm a registering the spy trade. But it didn't take a turn until I really found God. Like I grew up in a church. My family is greuted in the church. We have a model a family that prays together, stays together. And so when we came to Maryland, we didn't go to church as often. You know, like it's a family event, it's Christmas, it's Mother's Day, we would go to church, and so I knew of God. I knew how to do church like we all know how to do church. But I didn't know what it was to have a relationship with God. And so once I found my identity in Christ, I started being really bold, like I wanted to be a speaker. I wanted to do all these things. And in the process of me doing those things in twenty twenty when the world shut down, I was doing all masterclasses. I had investor into coaches, and I was ready to really launch forward into coaching and to speaking. And then August of twenty twenty came and my brother was no longer here. Wow. Wow, unbelievable. Unbelievable. Okay, all right, everyone, We're gonna walk through this, all right, So I'm gonna read a sentence or two, and I want you to kind of comment on it and tell me your thoughts based around it. Even at that moment, I whispered, I forgive you. I refuse to harbor hate and unforgiveness in my heart, as all it does is keep me from the promise of the promises of God. For some being vengeful that's in their heart, it's especially if something happened to someone that's dear to them, how were you able to get past such a horrific incident and forgive? Forgiveness has always been like a very easy thing for me. Like I said, I was a fatherless child, and I never really harbor like anger and things like that. And so when it's only because my faith also was where it was like I had this relationship with God. I was really deep into the church. I was really deep in prayer. Because I'll tell you one thing, if my relationship with God wasn't where it was, I probably wouldn't have been able to forgive that fast. But as I sat there in the outside the hospital, like asking God, like why God, why my brother was only twenty two years old? I thought you was gonna turn this around? And then then it split second, it was like, all right, I forgive her because if I'm gonna be mad at her, then I need I need to be mad at myself and I need to be mad at everyone else because who did I let die? Or who did I let hurt somebody else? Because I didn't show up the way God destined me to show up in other people lives. We along her life there were people who supposed to show up for her, people who were supposed to get her the help that she need, people who were supposed to pour into her. So if I was gonna be mad at her, there was a whole list of people that I should I should also be mad at. But who am I to judge? Like the word of God tells us that we all are sinners, and there's no sin sin greater than the next. So before I take a spec out of someone else's eye, I need to take the log out of my own eye. And so I went into like, Okay, what do I do now with that? Like what is the purpose in this? Like how are you going to use me? Because at the end of the day, if my brother is no longer here on earth, then I know he's with you, and I can rest assured that he has peace, he has joy, and he has ever last in life with you. So so for people who are watching and listening, can you explain I guess what you're talking about when you're saying. Oh, I get there, okay, all. Right, well can you fill our listeners in? Because so go ahead, you want to, So you want to explain who her is? Because we're talking about. I mean, without giving away too much. I don't know if I see you want to kind. Of goodhead mercy. You want to say who her is to the people? Yeah, that's given away too much. You do want people to read the book? Oh, it's a lot of juicy stuff. Her god brother's girlfriend, she murdered him in twenty twenty. Okay, yeah, all right, so here we go. Here's another passage off the book. It's disheartening that society often leads this is from social perspectives. Once you go through the chapters, you'll see some of the stuff that's going on here or some of these paragraphs. So it's disheartening that society often leads the soul blame on a man in toxic relationships, failing to acknowledge the emotional manipulation and abuse that women are capable of inflicting. Emotional manipulation can be just as damaging as physical violence, as it tears at the very core of a person's self worth. Her tactics were insidious, degrading him and messing with his mind, while simultane simultaneously professing love and affection. I want to talk. I want you to go a little deeper with that, because this hit home, because what generally happens is that men aren't heard when it comes to this, or they feel that they can. People feel that they can deal with such challenging emotions in vitual that may come from their significant others. What's your take on that? So there's a saying that I remember people just say growing up and the same blestics and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt. Who said that? Who said that? Words don't hurt? Right? So, when when someone says something to you, when someone talks down to you, it's a sea that they're planted in your mind. Right, So at that moment, you may not believe it. Someone says you're ugly, someone says that you're not talented. Right in that moment, you may not believe it, but it's a sea that has been planted. So as you go throughout life and then you keep hearing the same thing over and over again, then you start to tell yourself the same thing, especially if you don't have someone in your life telling you like you're talented, you're smart, you're beautiful. If you only have someone around you just putting you down, putting you down, and especially if it's someone who's supposed to love you like your mother, your father, your significant other, a family member. Right, so you start to believe those things, right, So what you're hearing, you're also becoming right. And so with men, a lot of times men think that, I mean with people think that men are so tough. Right, they think that nothing is supposed to affect you, nothing is supposed to ephaze you. Who said that? Right? Because if a boy, a little boy, and a little girl, if they're both walking and they both trip and fall, so they both scrape their leg. So we'll go to the little girl and we'll be like, oh, come here, baby, is everything okay? And we'll look at the boy and say, get up, tough it up, don't right, So then we're teaching women to be victims, and then we're teaching men to suppress their feelings, their emotions. And what happens when we suppress our feelings and emotion It turns into anger, it turns into negative coping. So now you're doing drugs, Now you're gambling, Now you're doing things that you should not be doing at all. And so the thing is words have power, you know, So the words we speak, it can cause life or can cause death, and so you have to be mindful of what you're speaking to others and also speaking life into others. And so I think it's important for people to realize that brother, it's a blood little girl, we should still be mindful of the way that we're speaking to them. And like I said, if it's someone that's supposed to love you and all they're doing is putting you down, you get to a place where you're like, Oh, no one else is gonna love me because I'm dumb. No one else is gonna gonna want to be with me because I'm not beautiful, or no one else is going to want to deal with me. I'm just gonna stay with this person because they're here and no one else is going to care for me like they do. Man, fantastic. Do you have the book next to you around you? No? Okay? Because I wanted you to pull turn the page seventy four. I'm going to read a little bit of this and do you remember what's on that page seventy four? Start reading it? Oh? Will? Okay? A letter to my brother m Dear Dante. I miss you so much. Not one single day goes by without me thinking about you. I wish you were here with us still. I wish you could see how much Charles and Bryce have grown. They remind me so much of you in so many ways. I wish I could tell you how much I love you, how much you mean to me, how much, how much you helped me. I love you so much and appreciate you more than words can describe. You were always there when I needed, no questions asked. You always step without even being asked. I hope you know how much you were loved, that you were perfect as you are, that you meant the world to so many people, and how our lives will never be the same without you. Now when you hear that, how does that make you feel? Now, it's so disheartening, Like we just celebrated five years since my brother transition, and even to this day, it's just like, oh, he's going to walk through the door. I just want to see him walk through the door and for a long time. If you ever lost anyone close tragically, it's like you question yourself and like did even though you know that you did all that you could, Like you showed them love, you was there for them, Like did he know that I loved him? Like was my love not good enough for him to be able to walk away, to just come home. And I also smile because I look at my voice now and they remind me so much of like my brother. My son was in the house the other day. He was just being goofy and dancing, and I was sad and happy at the same time. And people don't think you you can have two different emotions. Yes you can. Like I was happy and sad at the same time, and I thank god, I thank God that I had those moments, because most people can't say that they have the moments that I had with my brother. They can't say they have the memories. You know, most siblings don't have great relationships, you know, most family members don't have great relationships. And so writing that letter was just so healing for me because a lot of times when we're grieving, when we're going through loss, they don't have to be losing a person. We like to keep everything inside, you know, and we all, you know, we all cope in different ways. So some people write, you know, some people exercise, some people speak whatever it is like, but you got to get those emotions out. You can't just let them sit there. Wow. Wow, I'm just listening to this story and feeling your passion and really just trying to embody your brother because I have siblings who I'm extremely close to as well. I have four children, three girls, one boy, my three. My son is you know, he has sisters, so he grew up not to put the hands on them, protecting them, and he got into a relationship and you know, his sisters found out that this young lady was putting her hands on him. And you talk about like what's the cost of silence, because if witnesses and people are around, they're not saying anything, they're just as guilty. So they actually talk to the girl, you know, let her know, like listen, my brother is not the type that's gonna put his hands on you because he grew up with sisters. And then I guess it escalated and then she keyed his card. She was just doing things that was like this is about to take a turn for the worst. And I had to step in. And really get with her her mother and was ready to take on whatever needed because I knew that you know, a kid that doesn't she didn't respect men. She you know, the she didn't you know, get raised by upbringing and had his sisters not said anything. This could have that could have been a different outcome. And you know, you think about. Domestic violence as a whole, like even with the Diddy situation, and they talk about how you got all these bystanders, but no one speaking up, who's stepping in, who's saying something, who's trying to make a difference, to make this person have accountability instead of you know, oh, I guess coddling them. I think, I think. But what you said, Spark, I think that's an excellent transition to this next passage right that I'm gonna read because it hit home. And the irony is that it speaks directly to this. She spoke at him, taunt him, push his buttons, just to see him lose his cool. It was as if seeing him fresh and upset was a gain to her form of twisted entertainment. And the worst part was we only saw a fraction of what was really going on. We noticed how she would bait him, creating conflict over minor things, things that could have easily been avoided. It was like watching an older sibling torment a younger one, enjoying the chaos that could stir up. Yet we never truly understood how deep the emotional manipulation ran. We didn't see the full extent of the emotional and verbal abuse she inflicted, or the slow, insidious way she chipped at his confidence, the cruel words that left scars we couldn't see. I'm telling you it's triggering. So this is a warning for those who are seeing this and went through this, because I went through this a few times. But after hearing that, right, Marcilla, what's your take on that? So the thing is men are silent by men are silent because we expect them to be macho. We don't expect them to have feelings. And then when they do have the confidence to come to a mother, sister, or auntie or a friend and say that, oh she's hitting on me or she's calling me name, what do we normally say, man like, be a man, you know, things like that. And so I really feel that we as a community have to do a better job at listening one thing, especially Black women, we don't do a good job of listening. If we're honest, right, we listen to respond. And so if we listen more and then pay attention more, pay attention to the things, because what we have to do is pay attention to the things that my brother was not saying. You know, he will come and we'll see like marks on him and we'll be like, what happened? And you'll have this like weird, bizarre story that just didn't make any sense, and realizing that sometimes it's bigger than us. And a lot of times, as a community, we don't want to seek therapy when therapy is the one thing that's gonna save us all. And so I think it's important that we come together. If you see something, say something. And like you said, people see something and they don't say anything, they say something that have a whole lot to say after the fact. But just like if you see a fire about the start, are you going to try to do something now? Are you gonna wait to it become a blaze? And so we as a community we have to learn how to come together more and say something like, for instance, when I talk about therapy, now if you recommend them or tell somebody, maybe you need to help them make phone calls, maybe you need to like drive them to the therapy. Right, sometimes you just need to be present, ask the person like how can I help you? I see that you're struggling I understand that this may be hard for you. What do you need from me to help you through this situation? So this is going to be the last passage that I read from this because it's so dynamic, and I want to applause you and give you your flowers for writing such a not only passionate but a thoughtful in person no peace, because I know that sometimes putting your business out to the world can be traumatized, and especially something like this. And I salute you for your strength because I think I'll probably be in jail. I'm sorry, but I appreciate. I appreciate this, Lauren. You want to do the honest with this last one. Men don't often talk about the emotional and mental abuse they face. They don't tell anyone when their partner is tearing them down from the inside, when the words she speaks are making them feel small, worthless, and incapable. They don't share the stories of how their spirit is crushed by constant belittlement, how their motivation and sense of purpose slowly slipping, how their motivation and sense of purpose slowly slips away. They suffer in silence, trying to hold on to their dignity while being torn apart by someone who is supposed to love them. What's your thoughts? That's real life. There are so many men. People always want to focus on the women, But my question is what about the men? How often are we asking men, how are you doing? How are you processing that? Are you even processing that? You know? How often are we, as women, mothers, aunties, grandmothers, being mindful or even thinking about what we say before even come out our mouth, instead of thinking like, oh, he's a man, he should be able to handle it. How often are we teaching our men how to process their feelings, how to handle their anger. So you're telling me that it's okay for a female to sit there and just beat on a man, but then when a man responds by like trying to stop her, that he is a bad person. It's not okay. It's not okay for men to hit women. It's not okay for women to hit men. It's not okay for men to put women down with words. It's not okay for women to put men down with it. It doesn't matter, Oh he can handle it. Who says that he can handle it? How do you can you handle it? So it's very important that we wrap our arms around each other, and we as a community need to do a better job of uplifting each other. Why do we have to put each who wins in us putting each other down. If we have more women porn into men, young men when they're young, poorn into them, just imagine what they can grow up to be. I I truly believe the black men are very powerful, but I truly believe that they don't even reach their full potential because along the way, not only do they have the outside world other race putting them down, but then they have people in their own house putting them down. And so I think it's very important that just what are you saying, think about what you're saying before you say, you know, that's just saying that hurt people, hurt people. But if we all just got the healing that we need and not having this generational, generational just passing it down, passing it down. What happens in this house sasan's health. Why when the thing that's in his house is hurting everybody in the house. Do you think that there should be education of like domestic violence starting, you know, as early as elementary school. And like you said, a girl should put her hands on the boy. A boy shouldn't put his hands on the girl. Do you think that that's something that needs to be talked about. Almost definitely. But let's talk about the mess of violence. The mess of violence is just not hitting someone. People got to understand that the mess of violence is emotional. It's even teachers. How are teachers talking to students? That can be the balance in itself. Right, because you even have it in the workplace where people are, you know, bullying others and emails and things like that. You're absolutely right. I don't think that it's discussed enough when you have that person who is you know, tormenting someone. Yeah, you see a lot of focus on sexual abuse and physical abuse, but you don't really I had this talk with my son. He was dealing with something at school, and they only saw his reaction to what was happening to him. And I had to tell the principle and the vice principal and I let them know. I said, do you not know that words hurt more a lot of times than someone putting their hands on you. That my friend's coming home, he's crying, he doesn't want to go to school. He feels like no one likes him. And listen to what these little kids are saying to him. But all my son there was top some little boy who he felt it at that moment, and he ain't feel nothing else but those words that those kids are speaking to my son, they're gonna carry on with him, like because think about it. Think about when you were young if someone said said something to you. Now you may be able to thought will come into your head and you're able to push it out, But that thought do come into your head. Someone's ever called you ugly, someone's ever called you dumb. And you're an adult and someone calls you dumb, it's gonna trigger. But of course now you're an adult, hopefully you have the right coping skills to like push it out of your head. But everyone don't have the right coping skills to push things out of their head. So what do you say to parents, especially the ones that are like raising their sons to like be these little tough kids and not cry. And you know, as they get older, they're the ones with these I guess developing issues because they don't have an outlet. What do you say to those parents to to let them know that you know, this isn't the. Way that they should raise their children. We gotta do it different, Like we can't do it the way our parents did it. And it's nothing against our parents because our parents they tried the best that they knew how. But we're raising a different generation of kids. And a lot of times you have to tap someone in to help you. I have three children and I can't discipline them all three that exact same way because they're three different people. And I had to tap a therapist in who will teach us how to respond to my son when he was having a behavior issue. Okay. Instead of saying stop crying, you can say, well, I see you're sad about something. When you're ready to talk about it, I'm here. Let's talk about it. Because if you're just saying stop crying, So what is he doing with those feelings that he has? Those feelings that he has are never being a dressed Now, we can't let we can't let feelings drive us, but they're there, so we can't ignore them. They're like warning signs, right, so you know, like if there's a fire in the house, you hit a fire alarm, are you going to do anything to stop it? Or you're just gonna keep allowing it to make the noise. They have to pay attention to the warning. So it's all about how we respond to the kids. You know, I see that. You know, yesterday you was you know, you had a lot more energy. I see you barely coming out of your room. You know, is there something that you want to talk about or maybe you don't feel comfortable talking to me about it. Do you want to talk to your aunt or someone else about it? You know, I teach my kids, I said, here's a journal, write about it, you know, find a trusted source to talk about it. Yeah, that's awesome. I think that's important because I see a lot of young men because I worked in schools, I work in law enforcement, and I see a lot of young men that struggle with, you know, just having that outlet. And a lot of times I do refer them to, you know, therapy and things like that because I know that helps them, and I know that's very important. I know that's something that a lot of I'm not even going to say just black men, because I know it's in other minority cultures for men that they kind of shy away from therapy. But I know that's something that they may struggle with but I know how important that is, and I know how some men are starting to become more receptive to it. So yeah, I think that's important. Wow, you know, uh, I mean it's it's you can hear a pin dropping. It's just it's just heavy, you know, it's it's really heavy. Yeah. So again I'm want to thank you for such a dynamic piece. Now that uh, now that we kind of got through that, we want to mention this too, because this was in a book also that I was pleasantly surprised about. You actually gave numbers and resources. But I do want to pull this one up right here, because you actually had this in your book. This was the National Domestic Violence Hotline. This is the USA version, and so anyone who's watching this you can go to www. Dot thehotline dot org or the phone numbers winning hundred seventy nine to nine as a fe which is safe or seven two three three. Why did you feel that this was important to put resources in such a book. I feel like numbers say a lot. Yeah, right, when you when you see numbers on things and you realize how serious it is. And also resources are important because again, males, females, they all suffer in silence. So my prayer is that people will see the resource and use them because a lot of times there's so many resources out there that people don't even know about it. They don't even know that there's a place where I can go and get help. There's a place I can go and I could pour out my heart and it's a safe space. And that also when you're walking through something, like you said, you walk through this, there are a lot of people that walk through things and they feel like they're the only one. So when people see their numbers, they're like, oh my god, so I'm not alone. So maybe they will feel more comfortable with talking about it, because talking about it is what helps us heal, you know, Like you guys said that, like, yes, this is a very heavy conversation, and because it's so heavy, guess what, people avoid having it. But we have to have these uncomfortable conversations, right. That will lead to healing. Right that will lead to generational changes, that will lead to people dying from things like domestic violence, sexual abuse, that will lead to people suffering in silence, and then you know, trying to commit suicide. Because also in those numbers, you see how many men commit suicide because they feel so alone, because they feel there's no outlet for them, no one that they can talk to. Yeah. Have you done any research based around the numbers of statistics that shows the amount of men who may have experienced domestic violence versus men who have reported it? No, not too much. But when I did do the research, I don't think it's a lot of men that actually supported. Yeah, I think that's the problem. Right, Men don't report because they are looked at in a certain way. They look at you're not a real man. Right, if you tell someone that you experienced domestic abuse, right, you should be able to handle it. So I think this was an excellent conversation in that it just shine the light on other challenges that that happens in the communities that people tend to not talk about at all because it's not necessarily considered a problem, right, it's something that we feel that we can fix, or it's not even anything that needs to be spoken about, because hell, we go through drama just walking out in the street every day. Right, we get pulled over in the car, we get talked to, all of that, Right, But I just appreciate the work that you have been doing. Did this encourage you to potentially explore maybe a nonprofit as it relates to this, or more literary pieces as it relates to don't ass abuse, or just something completely different just as an author. Oh yes, most definitely. It really has like open my eyes because you know, I walk through it with my brother and his transition during the research when I started doing live events and people will walk up to me, males, females, and would say certain things to me because I'm like, oh, everyone knows this, like everyone knows that men's suffer in silence. Everyone knows. Like in my mind, it was just like, oh, this is just what happens. Then I realized that a lot of people don't understand how do messive violence affects men. A lot of men are suffering and silence. A man need a champion for them, and a lot of times that champion needs to look like a female, you know, because men speaking on it, women don't listen. But if you have another female speaking to you on how best we can support our men, then you may listen. Yes, that women are always going to have a comeback for well, he did, he did, be he did whatever, you know, they want to say but the thing is the man is the head. You know, you're saying, go ahead, like if the head is broken, then who's leading? I mean, let's I'm I'm old, you know, Uh yeah, we'll probably get a lot of feedback based around there. You can't say that men in the head when it comes to uh this space. You know, people want to fuss at what are you talking about? You know, but uh no, I appreciate, I dis appreciate the. Without a father, And I'm still saying that. Hold on, let me get random for pause right there, you know, you know, and it's what's funny and I'm a little lighthearted on it on this right now, just to kind of change the boot from such a dynamic pieces the ecosystem that you're talking in right now leans to uh this whole new idea, this red pill movement, right and you know, not being able to have people support the narrative that men too can become victims. That's literally unheard of, even when you think of situations that happen in prison, right without saying too much, that's even kind of like as a second thought or forgot about, right, But men have been and continue to be victims. And until you know we have people like yourself women talk about it and amplify it. It's going to continue to go unheard, so I'll just put my fists up. You want to say power to the people, empower them. I see it. Keep talking at talk because we need people like you. Is there anything that you feel like we didn't cover that you you want to talk a little bit more about? And how can they get you? Find your book and all that gooddle stuff here? So the book is on Amazon. It's called Shattered Yet Unbroken, so you can find it on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles. It's pretty much our all online platforms. And then if you and I'm on social media, Marcia and co on all platforms as well. Fantastic what is How did the name come about? Shatter? I love the name, so where did you? Where did the name come about? So a lot of times we go through things in life and we feel broken. But see, I'm a believer, so nothing can never break me. My God is but I'm on my side. So I'm shattered, yet I'm unbroken because he takes those shatter pieces and he put them back together whole. But see, I'm never going to be the same as before. Yeah, yeah, I would be remiss if I didn't ask whatever happened to the murderer, That's what I'm gonna say. You know, whatever happened to her. She's out. She got an f on her chest, did some community service, had to pay some court court fees, but she's out. Well, we still claimed the victory because I serve Almighty got The thing is people think that because people are free, that they're free, but there's something called him in prison. You can never be free. That's crazy because I know I have. A friend, a childhood friend who is no longer here, same situation of his child's mother murdered him and she did no time. She did like less than two years. Yeah, she claimed self defense, but he was sleep. When when he so Yeah, and and something and to that point. Once you read the book, it's something similar to that in the book, where you know the incident. And I won't give away too much in a book, but yeah, she had an item that she used to on the love him, and she knew what she was going to do. It was premeditory, she knew what. She was going to do. So fantastic book. Hopefully we didn't give away too much Hopefully it made you want to read more, and that's why I wanted to do it like that. Is it anything else you want to tell the people who may be watching who might be experiencing some of this domestic violence? Is it anything or just you know, a young lady or a young man who may be watching you on this show. Is anything you want to say? I just want to also say that the book is just about my grief journey and forgiveness, and the one thing I want to say is you have to forgive. It's not an option. The thing about forgiving, it's not about the person who hurt you. It's about you stop allowing that person to have power over you. You're not going to be able to live the life that you meant to live if you're holding on to something that you need to let go of. So go ahead. It's a journey. Forgiveness is a journey. Some people don't have the same story as me, or they're able to forgive people the same day. Let's take the journey so you can really live a life when you holding on to unforgiveness. People don't understand that unforgiveness it causes you to have high blood pressure diabetes, cancer. It's just not about you, know how you perceive in situations and things. So letting people go and you live your best. Life, Okay, no doubt. So the second reason I said it was two reasons why I was a little upset with you, is you send me a book and didn't sign it. You didn't autograph, you didn't do anything. So I've been fussing at you ever since I got the book because I don't see any autograph. Yeah, would you like to address that? Yeah, I'm gonna get you a signed copy. I got no doubt about aroundom clause for Marcilla. So uh. We talked weekly after the talk with w P P M O P Philadelphia one on six point five film. We talked weeks after the talk with your. Boy beautiful Laurence and a beautiful lady Sparkle in a. Beautiful She got the assignment, she got the memo. No doubt. So all right, y'all. So I don't want you to go anywhere. One thing we say, Marcia is once you come to the show, you a friend to the show, so you always welcome to come back. She'll is actually here, and so I think it would be great for you to come back on one just just as a potential, like you know, guest co host, but also I think he would be good for our end of the year wrap up, which is in a few months, Tom Flying. So great. Yeah, it would be great to come on in the year wrap up. How do you feel about that? Oh? I love it. Thank you so much for having me on here tonight. Thank you so much of helping me spread the word. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, we appreciate you. And again, whenever you want to come back, your friend to the show, So you're always welcome to come back. All right, So there you have it, ladies and gentlemen, Miss Marcia Man let me tell you in coole, amazing book, amazing book author. We're gonna be waiting for her other pieces apart two maybe uh maybe a movie. Maybe a movie. You know, we need to talk a little bit about that. And so I don't want you guys to go anywhere when we come back. You got a little good news and bad news, and of course we got the sizzle, y'all. We'll be right back after this. Let me find something, ma I'm gonna come there. I'm gonna go here with it. Let's go this is your favorite fly Guy Jones, Gregory We Talk Weekly. Listen. Everyone always asks. Who bots me? You emailed me on type We're. Trying to find you. I mean, we can find you, vidiot. Every All we have to do is go to We TALKBV dot com. All we need to do it go to USU or all we need to do it up on Good Birdy channel. Turn on higher than say it. Turn on we can find you. But sometimes I. Just want to work out, and I wanted to see to your podcast. I want to hear the ladies, city decision and a tenant room, good news and badly or just simply I want to hear. From the music, anything sports. I just want to listen. Don't know where to find your podcast. 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So Mayor Charrelle Parker has been extremely busy. I considered this good news. Philly is now cracking down hard on deep fraud. A lot of people know that once a feeling member passes away or loved one, a lot of times they get scammed out of their house from a deed. So Mayorship rel Parker and the records Director Jim Leonard, they just dropped the news that the city is. Now using something is the first ever. Automatic biostatic verification system. Basically, if the person listed on the deed is dead, the system will catch it before. Someone can steal the home. So this crime hits our seniors, black and brown communities the hardest. At Mayor Parker of Cherrell Parker, she. Says that families aren't just losing their homes, they're losing generations of wealth. So last year, over a hundred cases of defraud was reported in Philly, just last year long. There were even more before the pandemic. Scammers were out here forging signats of people who had passed away, flipping homes and cashing out on them. But now Philly is saying not anymore. This new system checks every deed against government records and if something doesn't add up, it's flagged immediately. This helps stop the frauds before it even happens, says the Assistant DA Kimberly Essek, who's seeing criminals recording themselves scooping out homes to steal. So if you are worried that your loved one could be a victim of this, you need to head down to City Hall in Philadelphia to Room one fifty four to file a report online. News. Yeah, that's that's great news. That right there. I feel like I want to give the mayor a round of applause for that because I honestly feel that you need to get the amount of money that you receive. That's how many years you need to have because you have people who are losing. When you talk about generational wealth, you're talking about potentially if great grandma had a house, who passed it down to your grandma when she passed away, and then passed it down to your mom. She passes away and it's supposed to go to you, somebody can find out that she had transition sign or forge the information and take it away from you. So you lost three generations of equity. It's something that you could have passed down to your children. That is so frustrated. So that is just and. It's been going on since the eighties nineties. But then they wash it by selling it to a developer and then selling it again, and then it's like harder than now find the person who passed it off. Yeah, that's a shame, man, But I'll give around it because I'm hard on our Madam Mayor. But this is definitely something that she is the first person who attempted to do something about this. I always heard talks, so yeah, this happens and it's not right, but no one actually taking a leadership position to say we will need to fix this, or acknowledging just making an acknowledgement that this happens. So kudos to mayor parties. She's been really busy. All right. So this one, I don't know if y'all seen an increase, but your wader bills are going up. Yeah, so starting I. Think it started like last week the Philadelphia Water Department. They're raising rates by nine point four percent. That means, like the. Average bill, let's just say it is eighty nine dollars, Well, it's about to go up eight more four eight dollars more. So this is happening because the city says that the rising costs for labor, whitment and the regulations of keeping clean water. They're also saying that the need to fund a massive twenty five year water overhaul plan to keep the system from failing apart, falling apart. So Mayor Chirel Parker said it best. This is about protecting Philadelphia's future. Safe water is an optional, it's a necessity. And if you're wondering who's footing the bill, we all have to look in the mirror. That's what Rob Ballinger, an attorney, with filling legal services, and he broke it down. The costs are going up, and without help from the FEDS, it's customers who are paying for. Another rate hike is set for next year in twenty twenty six, where it's going to be another five point five percent. But if you are struggling to pay your water bill, they do have a hot line that you can call or apply for help online at two point five six eight five six y three zero zero. I'm actually excited about that also. Uh, I don't want to say excited because we don't like to spend more money, but when we talk about protecting our water, that's very important, and they haven't had an increase in a while they had I mean, we're looking at Scepting, which had like five to six increases. Yeah, I know, right, and the water when the last time you heard of the order company having an increase in eight is okay? So is it eight dollars per dowland or something like that or is it just eight dollars? I think it's eight total. That's not bad at all. That's something I believe that won't hurt too many people. So I'm okay with I'm pretty okay with that we have to pay our taxes. We have to. I get that, it's just the excessiveness that I have an issue with. Once we start talking about the excessiveness when it comes to ppa, then we can have a true conversation. So man on Mayor, we need to do something about that. Yep, right, A good point though. The necessity that she said for to be clean water. If you look at other states, a lot of people years later, maybe fifteen to twenty years later, have had autoimmune diseases, cancer based on. Their water system. And I'm not just talking about pipes. I'm talking about it not being having regulations. And they see that, you know how they say, oh, is it in the water? On why this community is you know, having all of these certain diseases. Yes, it's in the water. So that makes a lot of sense of what you said. All right, Well, another thing our Philly is making history with. Philadelphia is the first city in the country to roll out a program that gives cold hard cash directly to renters. This is the renners who are struggling to make ends meet, and guess what, it's actually helping people. Stand their homes. So this pilot. Program is called the guaranteed income for rent. This isn't for homeowners, this is for renters. It's giving select low income renters about three hundred dollars a month just to keep up with their rent and to avoid eviction. Mary Sharel Parker says this is about keeping families together, stabilizing communities, and building a safe. Stronger Philadelphia. Renters are using the funds for rent bills and basic needs, with some even catching up on late payments local housing advocate Denise Parker. She added that sometimes people don't need a handout, they. Just need a hand up. This does just that. So the city's watching closely because if this continues to work, it could be expanded Philly, showing the nation that helping. Other people does work. So if you want more information. On this, this is through the Philadelphia Housing Development Corporation, which administers on behalf of the guaranteed income for renters. You can call two one five. For four eight three thousand, and number again is two one five four four eight three zero zero zero. I like this story. That's pretty cool, uh, And I think that's something. Again, there's a lot of struggle in the city. A little help will help, so to speak, and so we want to continue to have those resources and tell people about those resources. What's your thoughts about that spark though, I mean. The Renter's one. Yeah, I think only if it's not going to be something that hinders people. You know, we live in a communist country where you know, sometimes you have to work for what you need. Now, if these are people that are disabled, if these are people who have our elderly, but if you're able to work, I don't want it to be where it hinders someone from excelling and you know, contributing to what everybody else that's hard workers out here doing. So when you say I want you to expand just a little bit more on that. So when you're saying hinder, do you mean exactly what do you mean? I mean that I wanted to be where whatever. The the let's just say the criteria. If you are an able working man and you are not looking for a job, and you're you know. Saying that you're on hard times, have you placed. An application at Walmart? You know that would be something different. Then there's a single mother who has a newborn, who has to go to daycare, who she has other toddlers and right now working is not the best thing for her, you know, so that would be helpful. But if you're a nable. Working woman and you have no children, you're not disabled, Are you looking for work? Are you just using the program just to get your bundles and your lashes? Like you know what I mean? So I want to make sure that whatever that criteria is, and I know things are going to fall through the crack, but don't take advantage of it as some people do when it's something good. Got it, got it enough? Fair enough? I agree? I agree, uh, totally totally agree. No pushback it. I got. I got one more little spark note that I want to know what you guys think about this, all right, So it's it's two boxers who are well renowned and known I assume worldwide. You know, you got Mike Tyson who's fifty nine, and then you got money making Maybe that's oh is this one? Is this? It was? Okay? It was like I thought it was a spark note. Then okay, see this is how we all know that we are all in alignment. All right? That good news and bad news for class lady Sparkle. But I do want to add a note to at least the renterers thing. I know a lot of people feel or some of the people, some of these landlords, who feel, why does everything always go to the renners? What about us? Well, we had the opportunity to covering an event that happened in the community, and you'll see a full right up by Lawrence Cis. She would put that out there shortly. But I'm going to share a little clip from this town hall courtesy of one of our good friends, Purple black Well. Besides the Purple black Wells, who yeah, shout out to Purple who organized alongside Renning, a friend of mom, Rennie Parker. I believe it is this last thing, and it was an amazing event when it was done for the community. Of course, specific to was Philadelphia Office sixty third and I want to say Walnut Chestnut around around or around that area, and they had a lot of great information for first time home buyers, renters assistance, and for the landlord who would like to do some upgrades. So just to give that bit of context to the clip that I'm about to share, this will outline the information for you guys who are renting your properties, take a listen. So that is our Rental Improvement Fund the looms can go up to one hundred thousand dollars for the properties. Okay, high overviews. Just want you to know. So if you are a small landlord, you can use this. This loan is used to help with things to keep the property healthy and safe for your attendants, such as upgrading and electrical system storm doors and windows, new heaters, lead abatement, hard wires, brakuors systems, those kinds of things. That's what you can use this for. There you go. So if you are a renter out there, you're renting your properties out there, a small landlord, you have for little assistance. You don't have to always come out of your pocket, out your budget. I think it's a great time for people who have been amplifying the resources that Philadelphia has. It's a great time for this and people have been doing a lot more. One of the issues that we say, as it relates to we talk weekly and just covering elections are why don't people know right? Why don't they know who's running? Why they don't why don't they know about the home rule charter? Right? That? Other the questions outside of you is voting or why don't we know who's voting? Who are these judges. I don't even know what this person is. So this is interesting thing to see the amount of information that's starting to come out and get to the people. And you know, pad on our backs give us a round of aplus. A lot of it has been coming from us, the information that has been coming out, So make sure you always tune into We Talk Weekly if you're watching this, We want to thank you for your continued watch, your continued information uh that uh that that we've been able to procure and give to you guys, because that's why we do it. So I want to thank you corrastulating Sparkle for your good news and bad news. Is anything else you want to talk about? You want? Yeah? What for that? For the for the landlords, how do they get in contact or who do they follow up with? For more information on that. We Talked Weekly, all you need to do is go to the last video that we just posted. To go to our webs today and the stories will be listed there. Contact contact us. Yeah, So Lawrences will put together a nice write up alongside the guide that we put together from the actual transcript of the entire event. So we're working on a lot of information to make sure that we give to the people that allow them to have the access that they need to continue to have a great way of life. There you go, So we talk. We please after they talk for WPP and P Philadelpha one O six point five FM, we talk. We have to talk with you and beautiful Lawrence and beautiful and Lawrences be ready for me. Yeah, there you go. All right, give it to me early. All right. So make sure you guys subscribe to We Talk Weekly on all social media and major podcast platforms. And if you want to support. Us, you can make a donation to on dollar side on cash ass to Dallar time We Talk weekly. You can also go to our website and go to donate, and you can make a donation via PayPal. All right. So Drake is clapping back, and I want you all opinion on this one. I want your opinion on all the stories. So Drake is clapping back at journalists at hip hop journalists specifically who he calls entitled after they criticize his second interview with Bobby attlaw. So he is saying that he doesn't do interviews with traditional hip hop media, and hip hop journalists have complained about Drake interviewing with non hip hop journalists who have absolutely nothing, who know absolutely nothing about hip hop or what's going on, and they aren't able to ask the appropriate music questions to Drake, and even Jamel Hill expressed that this shows how real hip hop journalism is being a race. So critics are accusing Drake of doing this to escape being asked certain questions, especially all the heels of what we know to be one of the most infamous you know, rat Beast or whatever you know that I will not say, but you know so Bobby Afflos She is an American influencer and podcaster. She kind of gained popularity on TikTok back in twenty twenty one after she started sharing pregnancy updates and then she transitioned to interviewing celebrities on her podcast called The Really Good Podcast, and then that podcast launched in twenty twenty three, and she kind of got famous off of that. So she's interviewed other celebrities like Loyati, Funny Marco, and then Mark Cuban. So Drake has appear on her show for the second time. The Little The Little Skinny Little Uh yeah, I know exactly who you're talking right, right right, She's so I don't know she got this weird aff at that's that's I don't know what made. Her so big, right exactly. So a lot of people are complaining like, should you know she even be interviewing. Hip hop Well not necessarily should. She be interviewing them, but should he be going to her for interviews? I'm not going to I'm not even gonna talk about the other side of who Drake is. And some and they're saying, like, you know, even like on the Breakfast Breakfast Club, they were saying that some other celebrities have done this. I think with Nicki Minaj going to Kai san not. And stuff like that and not going to traditional journalists mainstream. They can't compare it. They can't compare a constant not with Nicki Minovs versus Drake and other check that's a comparison. What are they talking about? I think Drake has taken the path of least resistance. I believe, like, how can you come up off of this culture like he started in the grassies then whatever, he switched over it and became this rapper heart thrive. That's what built your platform. How you going like now turn your back on that? Now if you wanted to expand what you're doing and and you know, even out the playing field by doing both, then I could see that. But for you to intentionally and specifically avoid going to urban type of newsca news outlets or you know, radio stations that's corny. He got you deserve from Kendrick. Then yeah, yeah, yeah, And it's it's kind of like I was kind of looking at it like from another lens. I guess like it does give an opportunity to like that unknown podcaster or influencer who you know, it may give them, you know, may catapult their career, but at the same time they it is going to be like a little if they don't do their research, if they don't do their homework as into hip hop, like those people that are looking for hip hop. Questions and stuff about music, they're going to cush. They be like, what like like this this interview is dry. I hate, I'm hating. I'm hating. I did see a little bit of that one, and I just was. Like, I don't think there's nothing wrong with him doing those interviews because for her audience who have who may not know about him, even if it's dry or not. But if you're intentionally If he's intentional about not going to urban stations, I'll just say urban for lack of better words, then that's. The problem, just doing like yeah, all right to that point, when have you seen Drake do an interview with somebody else? Then to your point, just just just he doesn't. So that's what I'm saying. That's wrong, Like you're intentionally not going in because of pathively resistance. Yeah, his PR team is saying, hey, they're going to ask the questions because we live in that world. So the same thing that Tyler p r. PR people like, you're not going to ask her the question about uh, colorism, You're not going. To do it. We might do it, we might do it in different ways. And so Drake, anyone knows. Drake, I'm asking you now come to we talk weekly. Please, we would love for you to come on the show and we'll be fair and impartial. Period. Yeah, you had no hip hop questions, And it is kind of something. It is something going on there because I did see another article with him he was revisiting the grassy you know, since you mentioned that it was something like he was talking about that again. So is it like you know, because of what went on with Kendrick Lamar. That is he trying to go back to his acting roots, Like I don't know. Peop, won't I mean it won't hurt I mean no. Yeah, Now all right, so let's stay ready to rumble. We was getting ready to get into this, but it's official. CSI Sports has announced that Mike Tyson and Floyd Mayweather Junior are set to square up in the ring next twenty twenty six and an exhibition matchup of living Legends fight. Tyson, who will be sixty years old at the time of this fight, retired from professional boxing with fifty wins forty four. Knockouts, but he lost to Jake Paul last year. Tyson said, when CSI came to me about stepping in the marine with Floyd Mayweather, I thought, no way this happens, but Floyd said yes. This fight is something neither the world nor I thought would or could happen. However, boxing has entered a new era of the unpredictable, and the fight is as unpredictable as it gets. I still can't believe Floyd wants to really do this. It's going to be detrimental to his health, but he wants to do it, so it's signed and it's happening. And Floyd Mayweather's career both fifty wins, no losses, and twenty seven knockouts. Mayweather won titles in five different weight classes, all under junior or middleweight. Mayweather's last career fight was against Connor McGregor in twenty seventeen, and Mayweather said, I've been doing this for thirty years and there hasn't been a single fighter that can turnish my legacy. You already know that if I am gonna do something, it's going to be big, and it's gonna be legendary. I'm the best in the business of boxing. This exhibition will get the fans what they want. So what do you guys think? All Right, Sparkle, because I know you were gonna say something about it. What's your thoughts on this? What's your take? Well, Sadly, when I seen what's Jake Paul, When I seen that fight right tight, now, I had okay. I was talking to my brother Voughing. He swear Tyson is gonna take Mayweather down. Now they both owe how old is how old is? How old is Mayweather gonna be? Is he gonna be. Because I know he's forty nine is gonna be not at the time of the fight. If not forty nine months from it, Like we just go all and a forty nine year old against a sixty year old. I mean, that's what eleven years is. I think. I think Mayweather is gonna win. My brother thinks that Tyson's gonna win, which is no. But it's sad that Tyson to me, the way he's going out, it's like he's tarnishing. What I mean when. I say it was droves of people like they were. They was getting limos and putting on a fur coats back in the day to go see him. In Atlantic City, people had it where if you go to the concession stand, you you you can't even come back to see the fight because he already knocked the guy out. Like his his legacy. Is, I don't remember that, I remember that. Oh my gosh, you brought back a whole memory. The legacy is the black shorts, like his legacy is. So it's so beautiful. I feel like, go out the way you were, do your you know, your your your you know when you show up and your announcements like do that. But when you go in the ring. Especially, they act like they fight in the real Tyson, you fighting somebody else. This ain't so I haven't answered. It, though exactly exactly. I'm curious to hear you and see unc Yeah yeah yeah. Uh I. Honestly, I really don't want to see the fight, but I would have rather see this fight than the Jake Paul fight because I think that uh uh, his his I think. His his. Legacy was already kind of tarnished by fighting this guy that ain't even really a boxer or true. But I won't say that because he's been boxing, right, but when you talk about a true professional boxer, someone who has tried to test it. Uh. I hated to see Tyson in the ring because those who box, who truly box and understand boxing, would have looked on that and said Tyson was pulling back. Tyson ain't want to swing like he would normally swing, you know. For the untrained people, was like, oh my god, he's old, he can't he don't look good. No, Tyson was literally pulling back. He was cooked them ain't even a world that's an understatement. He would have beat beat, the beat the brains out of this guy, right, Uh, Tyson still was was still sharp. What you guys seen out there was just him not doing what he wanted to do. And so you've seen uh, his his his showmanship, UH try his best to assess what was going on and make sure that he doesn't do what he normally do. So when you've seen him biting his glove, that was him like reminded himself, don't hit this guy away. I would normally hit this guy right. And so you probably won't see too much of that on before Mayweather fight. But I also believe that that won't even be a truth fight. Mayweather still I seen him fight. I mean he lost some speed, but he's still good. You know, you're talking about fighters, right, You're talking about people who were truly the best in class, right, and so you had people like George Foreman who was fighting at an older age and knocking people right. So the talk at age I try not to fall too much into. But what I will say is that a lot of this is about money. A lot of this is about just making a point and giving people some to watch. So I would say, throw off the true fighter lens and put on entertainment lens and go from there. Again, I really don't want to see. I'm not interested in doing too much into this fight or going too much into this fight. Aside from they are in my top five a boxing period, and so I think they'll stay there in my top five. And I think I think they're smart enough. Floyd Mayweather is smart enough to let the fight happen where he can stay out the way, give the people what they want, and not really go into it like it's a grudge match, right, and so they're tearing off on each other. I think he will give the people what they want in terms of promoting a fight, because he's good with that. Mike Tyson was pretty good with that also, but true, Mike Tyson a rare form pulling, pulling a collar off of him. You're not You're not messing with Mike Tyson paper, you know. And so that's coming from, you know, a pretty trained eye. And I would just leave it at that. Yeah, sure, Yeah, I think you said everything that I was going to say, exactly everything I was going to say, because I was you know, I like to get a consensus of like what other people are saying on social media, and a lot of people were like after the Jake Paul fight, they were just kind of saying, like, this is just entertainment. This is not you know, don't expect it to be uh not down, drag out anything. They said, this is just gonna be entertainment. Then you had some commentators on Fox Sports, like Fox Sports like, we don't want to see Mike Tyson's behind, We don't want to see none of that, and they're like, don't waste. Your money in it. If you, I mean, if you're into that, like you got people out here to still watch WWE WWF and then all into that, Like if you, I mean, just put your put that type of lens on it and watch it. Don't go in there as a as a hardcore boxing lover, and you're gonna be disappointed. This isn't. This isn't Cano versus Crawford. This isn't because they both chasing a bag, both of them chasing the bag, and I know Tyson was chasing a bag with that jig. Paul's right, right, all right? So last story rapper Cardi B. She did an interview with Billboard and she revealed why she turned down the performing at the Super Bowl in twenty nineteen. So although back in twenty nineteen, Carti actually told the Associated Press that she had mixed feelings about declining to perform in support of Colin Kaepernick. Cardi B is now saying that she didn't have enough hits, so she said to In her Billboard interview, she currently the recent one. She said, I got to ask to do the super Bowl and I denied it. I feel like soon, if I get to do it, I'm going to have more hits. I'm going to be more experienced, and I'm going to eat that up. I do my job well and I take my time with my music. Clearly you could see that. So many rappers come and go and I'm still here. You can downplay my accent, but I put a lot of thought into my work. I don't have as us anything I do. But this whole thing led to a larger conversation of which female rapper with music out now could actually headline the super Bowl. So you have some music out now. Yeah that's current or relevant or whatever you want to call it. Like, what female rapper out now with with current music out now can actually happen? You had some Yeah, you have some names coming up like Glow, Real Lotto, Meghan the Stallion, I don't think she has anything out like right right now, so it's just. Kind of like. And then then it was just kind of like, oh, uh, Glow really got all the I mean, I think she got it, like a lot of songs as far as like from her mixtapes or whatever. And then they were like then it turned into I'm not gonna say who who This conversation kind of spiraled out of control with but then it turned into like, oh, Glorwiala got all these hits and stuff, and then you could put her catalog, her hits up against Nicki Minaj. Catalogs now everyone on the planet noise. I'm not a huge Nicki Minaj, but I don't know another woman like and I'm I'm I'm a big when the bumble with me. Huh, I'm a big fan of Little Kim. You couldn't even put her catalog next to Nicki Minaj. It's no, I don't know another woman who catalog can be next to Nicki Minaj and and win and beat her out. No, not catalog wise, none, So you can't. Well wait, is it just the person singing or is it their song writing? No talking, Miss Elliott, Like. Alright, alright, so it's hard to it's hard to compare. Yeah, it's hard to compare, uh. Because Nicki Minaj doesn't have any songs where she just only sang. But you you can't compare miss Yellow. Miss yell That's what I was saying. I was, I don't we were talking about catalogs. I'm thinking, like she does singing, rapping like that efect, but. She also writes. So that's what I was, like, catalog or not just to be debatable, but just like. Something that in my mind, No, that's that's that's fair, that's fair. But she would I wouldn't compare that like you can. Yeah, Nikki, I mean saying in the stratus fair Nikki is up there, but she ain't Miss Yeah. I put Missy in a legend category. I I put Nikki in the future legend category. Got it. You can't compare. There's nobody that can mess with Nikki. I'm sorry. And since we bringing it back, I want to bring it back to the super Bowl. The topic of the conversation. Lorella couldn't do no super Bowl her music and it's not super bullworthy. It has it has to be a super Bowl word. Mister Elliott, maybe, but she's not current. But you you had Janet have a nip tuk slip talk, if you know what I mean. They're not going to allow a whole bunch of people tworking on the stage. She's not gonna have not no sexy red at all. So that's that's what I'm looking at. What's the girl? Is it dough Chi? She's done stuff? Yeah, I know, but she's not big enough. She doesn't have a big enough I know, I'm just saying, but she's another. I would agree that she would have the type of music that can do a super do it. Yeah, she's still like a I don't want to say underground artist, but she she she's an underground sensation so to speak, for sure. And it's really not I mean, I could see Cardi doing it Cardi, Yeah, she likes the only one that I can really see doing it. Yeah. I'm a Cardi B fan. I like her. Yeah, we see her doing That's what they keep saying, her walking down the steps, like look. The upsets with her. I like her. I like Cardi B. I'm a Cardi B fan. Yeah, I mean how can you how could you not like her? I mean, and you know she has a new album that's supposed to be coming out. I think, what is it? September nineteenth is it? And then she also, you know, got the twenty twenty five She was honored with the twenty twenty five Billboard and Pack Award this past September fourth, So yeah. She still relevant. She knows how to stay relevant. Oh yeah, she got a good team. She has a good team. And I think I think it's. Her too that even when you know, she first came out on what was that with Yandy and now loving it. Yeah, like she just authentic, very authentic and apologetically authentic. Yeah yeah, and I think that's what people want. You know, you could tie to the facade. Yeah, yeah, people want authenticity. So yeah, I mean I could definitely see her doing that, and especially if she brings out you know that she had a lot of hits on board that Yellow. That I think she could just do the super Bowl for that alone, and. She did one with with Bruno Mars right. Then they have a together. Yeah, that's like the other the other other John. For John for those that's Philly talk for those who not in Philly that's watching listen is John. But the what's their name? Ah, the the guys, Oh, man, I can't think of their names. They did the Bowl one year. I think it was a year with Beyonce. Those are my guys. Why can't I think of them? Not Cartie B has a song she she did a song with them. But they could definitely come out because they did it one year. Maroon five the songs. Oh yeah, but they're not rappers, but I mean they could do the super their cat now they're someone else that has catalog. Absolutely love. I mean, just the thing of the people that she could she have come out, you know, Maroon five, what's the name? I like it, like that, Bruno, Mars Mark. He can do it. Mars can do it Super Bowl easy, yep. Yeah, maybe he will be one of the next people. Know that. And she just did that song with jay Z's imagine your players. Oh, I ain't hear that. She did the song to his beat. I think some of my ideas might talk about I didn't hear it though. Yeah. Yeah, and that's one of my favorite songs all the time. So you singing that I already liked, Well, yeah, that's a little fire to deal and you. Know, a lot of people was just it was a little little backstory to that. A lot of people saying it was she to. Good, good good, go go ahead, CARTI. I love Cardy because she was went on the Twitter ship. That up. That's some nice yeah time following me around deep good, Yeah, no. Doubt for sure. All right, it was Lawrence and. Then the sizzle. 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