Jay-Z Book of Hov Library Exhibit, Philadelphia Mayoral Candidate David Oh's Plan for Philly

What's up. The artist is Doug E. Fresh and you're watching and we talked weekly. You're listening to right here. All right, So we're gonna go right into the sizzle and then we're gonna have David oh So holland early. All right. So comedian Michael Blaxon, he's in to deal with Celebrity Boxing and he's not wasting any time. Okay. So after officially signing his contract with our friends Celebrity Box and founder CEO David Feldman, Michael Blaxon, Yeah, shout out to him, Shout out to him. We gotta get him back here in the studio. But Michael Blaxon started calling out several comedians by name that he wants to fight. Michael Blason called out Kevin Hart, I'm Kat Williams and d D DC Young Flies. So you know, Kevin Hart and Michael Blaxon, they have a history which dates back to yees like come on now. But like Michael Blaxon had his comedy jokes he made about Kevin Harts cheating scandal that played out in twenty seventeen when his wife was eight months pregnant. Well, Mike and Mike and Kevin had hashed out their differences in twenty eighteen at the seventy six ers playoff game. But it looks like the beef is back on, So like, I would be curious to see if you know, what's going to go on with that. Dwight Howard. He has denied allegations in the civil law suit file by a man in Georgia who has accused him in another individual of sexual assault, battery, false imprisonment, and emotional distress. So Stephan Harper alleges he met Dwight on Instagram and he met then he went to Dwight's house. Long story short, Stephan was on his way and Dwight Howard texts him and asks him if he wanted to partake in the third party joining their little arrangement. Stephan declined, but when he got to the house, he was just surprised by this man that was identified as Kiddy, who walked up out and Stephen said at that point he was forced into this encounter with both Dwight and Kitty. So Dwight is denying those allegations. Well, Mace, he chimed in on his talk show, It is what it is. Mace offered his opinion saying, we have to stop telling people we don't care what they do on their own time, because we do care what they do. May said, they tell we tell people it doesn't matter, but behind your back, it does matter. He said, there's thirty teams out there that did not sign Dwhite Howard because it matters. May said, it's never consensual if you surprise somebody. Mace also used the example that if you're with somebody alone and somebody walks out of a side door with a Leprechaun outfit on, it's no longer consensual. He said, you if it's not decided on beforehand, then it's just not consensual. But Dwight Howard he kind of spoke out saying that whatever goes on in his bedroom is none of anybody's business. So, yeah, just that one doesn't interesting. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah. So the celebrity sizzle goes to rock Nation, and it's no question that. But it's no question that jay Z has had an amazing career as an artist, including most number one album sporteen of any solo album on the Billboard, two hundred first rapper, inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame, and so much more. Well. Rock Nation created this exhibit and per the library's website. Brooklyn Public Library is pleased to present the Book of Hove and installation created by rock Nation to celebrate the life and work of Seawan jay Z Carter. The Book of Hove features not never, never before seen images, art, and ephemera from the artist's archives, providing an unparalleled look at an extra extraordinary life and career. So this is free. You don't need a library card and there's no admission fee. Check out the interview that he did with Gail King, which was dope. He and then he officially answered the question of what should you do. Should you take the five hundred thousand dollars cash or lunch with jay Z? He said, take the cash and bottles album. The exhibit ends December fourth, on jay Z's birth birthday. So I'm gonna try and go and see it. It sounds like it's gonna be awesome. Take your kids. That's funny, all right, I'm a girl. Lauren Sizzle and that everybody's talking about that was like, take the was like, take the interview, Yeah, take the interview. You would take the interview. I would definitely take that. I would take the lunch, every album, because he gave you all the game, and every album and every he already gave you the game. I already have all I already have, but but I don't have his answer to questions that I had. I got you, but you can't buy that question. You can't buy that. So yeah, take them, I got all the album in the house. You can give me the cash. I'll be all right. I'm gonna flip that, you know what I'm saying them A couple of times I feel a little different. And speaking of art, you know, I have someone with whom I have a tremendous amount of respect for, who has always been in support of the arts scene. He has always been in support of the artists, people within arts and culture, and always been visible and around without further ado, someone with whom I have a tremendous amount of respect for, mister David. Oh, how are you my friend? All right? So I want to thank you for coming to the show. You've been here a few times. You know, you're like a friend to the show already, So yeah, absolutely, and so we appreciate you, uh for coming again. And it looks like you know it's you know, the y'all have the finish line your campaign, your campaigning is you know, you see the finish line. Y'are running neck and neck, and you know, how does it feel too? Finally, I guess be somewhere where you can see the light at the end of the tunnel. And I have to ask you, you know, have you felt the support from the Republican Party and supported you? You know, well, they certainly haven't been against me, so that's good news, and they try to be helpful to some extent. But I think, you know, the Republican Party being such a minority party for so many years, and unfortunately, because I believe in a two party system, I think it's good to have checks and balances. But you know, the Republican parties very weak in this city. Sorry to say that, but that's the truth. And you know, they have very particular agendas and I think you know, their focus pretty much is on the council races. And you know, I'm someone who left council. I had served my time there and I didn't really see a reason for me to do another four years. And I certainly see a reason why we should open up for other people to give it a shot. So you know, the Republican Party has been, you know, certainly trying to be helpful in the ways that they are right right. How do you feel about your campaign as of the date to date? You know, do you feel like you're in a good standing with everyone? Do you feel like you're gaining momentum? How do you feel now? Well? I feel good. I mean, I think the race was for the most part predictable except for one huge element, and that is Parker not campaigning after May sixteenth, which was completely something no one could predict. And I can't think of a good reason why that would happen, but it's not for me to think about other than it would have been better, I think for the public if the two candidates went to each council matic district, had open debates and I really let people kick the tires, ask their questions, make their criticisms, because in all of that, including the venting, there is an engagement of the public that gives them hope that government is going to be listening. A big thing that people complain about the government has got no ears for us, does not hear what we're talking about, does not respond, and they see it more and more every year. In other words, a school district that doesn't accommodate parents, a school district that doesn't take care of the children, a city hall that's never open for them, you know, services they can get. You know, we've been through it all right, So I do think that it would have been wonderful to have like a summer and a fall of just engaging the public and being really transparent about it, and well, but that did not happen, and so and I didn't think it was going to happen, to be honest, I just thought it would be wonderful if we could do that. But I did expect to have at least one or two televised debates and at least appear at the same time at this on the same stage, and have some forums and discussions, much more than was done. But on my part, you know, it's actually you know, advantageous for me. So I was out all summer, multiple times a day, meeting people, going to events. Busy, yeah, and oftentimes because they were anticipating two candidates, but only one showed up, and so that just made things much more simpler for me. But at the same time, without two candidates, there are not a lot of interest and so many, so many events that people were planning just never happened because they couldn't get two candidates, and without two candidates, they weren't interested. Yeah, I was. I was wondered that too, because you know, during when everybody's threw their head in the ring and you kept seeing the debates and just everybody was going here, here, their different venues and all that. End the day bates were happening and so many people were engaged, and then it was like once you know, it was decided the primary primaries, then there was nothing. So now it's like this period where it's so quiet and people are like not even remembering that election is what a week and a half away, right, And why didn't we have those debates? Why didn't we have like the same Like I was wanting to see that, like just the two of you debating while I saw during the Yeah, I'll just say frankly that I was looking forward to the debates and the discussions and really on the issues. And you know, so I was contacted pretty early on by six ABC and CBS three and a lot of different organization, nonprofit, civic group, newspapers trying to get a date and a time, and I just basically said every time, whenever I'm in whatever it is, wherever it is, whatever time it is, and if there are multiple dates, you could just check with Parker and whatever's good for her is good for me. But she was not agreeing to any of the debates, any of the forums until finally she agreed to one. But it required that we show up at separate times, enter separate doors, and wait in separate waiting rooms, and then we would appear separately, like one of us would go first, someone who would go second. And that's the first one that she agreed to, and the other ones are kind of like that. And then there was a newspaper article about is she ducking or avoiding, you know, the debates and the forums, And she agreed to the KYW radio debate, which was not really quite a debate, and before that she agreed to Channel six is televised kind of interview, which I thought was very helpful. So I'm can I jump in, David and asked, why kind of isn't it bothough the same philosophy as a Trump who was also a Republican, And how he has decided that I don't need to do the debates right, because he is the he's a prominent Republican in the race, right, and there's really no odds against him that's going to any debate is really going to change that he has fifty percent or more of the support in the democratic city where you have a Democratic mayor and there's eighty percent of the you know, prominence, would you, if you were in her position, then be open to debate That would seemingly like Trump has decided unnecessary. Well, I don't really, I wouldn't agree with Trump. In other words, if you think you're going to win, that's fine, but why don't you get out in front of the people. And by the way, nothing is guaranteed, not for Trump or anyone else. But this is not the same situation. In other words, in this city, though it be a seven to one to one city, on election day, it's four to one to one, and I am known for getting over twenty five percent of the Democratic vote, and so we go into a three to three situation pretty quickly. And to not get out in campaign you're really risking losing. And I'm just gonna say, the momentum is with me. I am gaining and she is declining. In the votes, so I see it as a close race. It's a toss up far as I can tell. You never know on election day because it can be wildly different than whatever the trajectories are. But you know, she didn't start with a lot of votes to begin with. She was a state rep and then a district council person. Her maximum votes were like twenty nine thousand. The largest amount of votes she ever got was eighty one thousand during the Democratic primary. And I've had eleven years of going to every nook and cranny of this city. I have been to every section. I know the people. I have done different things with them. I don't take the summer off. I hardly take a holiday off. I generally, you know, I just don't even do the weekends. So I work straight through and I do my own initiatives because I don't get any money from this city, and I'm off been battling what the city government, and so many times I'm taking up the causes of people who have no champion. So I would say, if I were, you know, advising her, I would say, you really can't take that strategy in this city with David Oh, because he is used to fighting the Democratic Party, Republican Party, and most of the unions and everybody else. So I'm always underfunded, like five to one, this time ten to one. But you know, this is new territory for Parker. She has not had to go into a general election with a competitive race, in a competitive race. And I'm not saying she isn't going to win. I'm just saying this is new territory. This is a person who has basically had no opponent, and one in May, she had opponents. In this primary, you know was the winner, but why not just keep campaigning until November seventh, because if you are sure you're going to win, then it's no longer about the win. It's about the unification of people and securing the win. But in my opinion, since you're asking, I would say I got the momentum and people forget real quick, like who was the candidate because they've not seen her, And that raises a question like if she's the winner and they're ready to celebrate, she's nowhere around, then why did that happen? And I've seen it on the you know, when I go to community meetings and civic groups, where is our candidate? And how come they're not here. And you know, the thing people wonder is, are you just assuming you're going to win with our vote? Like our vote doesn't count. And I would look at it this way, and I'm very critical of it because I basically see myself as a reformer. You know, I was never really a part of any political organization, machine or whatnot. At the point in time where elected officials don't feel like they need the voters, what they need is a political machine. The machine gets you in. As long as you have the machine, you're going to win, or if you have the right registration or anything like that. But I think that's a sign that someone or some people or a group of people have just been too entrenched and are just way too comfortable because they no longer really hear the people. And I think the machine. And when I say machine, I'm just I don't just mean like political organization or groups. I mean all that is attached to them. They're very, very very removed from the people. And that's why I feel, for example, when I do bills to stop the property taxes, and I say they are improper and they are really hurting people. How come they're voted against? You know, Well, whoever's voting against them must not feel like there's any repercussions. You know, about trying to get the parking authority back, Almost everybody in the city would say that's a good thing to do. We're not taking a whole thing back. We just need to cooperation agreement so we know where the money is and we can fund the schools probably fifty million a year, instead of raising people's property taxes, instead of doing a soda tax. But when I'm soundly defeated by my council colleagues, including Parker, then what does that say? Because what you're not accountable to the people, or you think they don't know or they don't care. And you know now that we're all talking about drones. I did that in twenty sixteen and had nothing but opposition. Oh sure, so now people are talking about drones. But why because they really believe in it or because it's a catchy thing to say right now? In other words, wasn't Parker the one who did a referendum against stopping frisk, like really put it onto charter said that people need a voice and they all said they don't want it. And now she's saying she's going to bring it back plus the National Guard. I mean, is that about changing her position or is that about pandering to whatever poll she's reading out there. I just say it's very dangerous to follow polls. Yeah, the polls I've seen, you know what they say. They say like fifty two percent, and I'm not saying they accurate. I saw seeing the poll fifty two percent of people in Philadelphia want the return of stopping frisk. It's very popular to talk about the National Guard. Yeah, that may be true in a poll, but I doubt I will say, I doubt that it's accurate with the voters, with the communities or anything, because it's in a very isolated way. You could say, would you prefer this? They could say yeah, but when you bring it to reality, they don't want it. Yeah, you know, you know you said a lot, but that that particular thing, and she was clear that her position is Terry stops not necessarily stop the same thing. It's the same thing. Yet you could play semantics. I'll just clarify because I'm gonna turn it and I am all just tell us the difference. Yeah, but I just wanted to because she just was on the show when this, Yeah, that's the exact same thing. So there's a case. There's a case at what's a Supreme Court called Terry versus Ohio which laid out the standard by which you can do stop and frisk. It's the same thing Terry stops stopping frisk. So no different, same case. And what the court said is you need to elements right because typically what people will understand is police cannot search you. Now you have a constitutional right against unreasonable, unlawful searches. So why is stopping frisk not a violation of the constitution. Well, they don't have probable cause. That's the main thing. If I see you do something, I'm thinking you might be doing something, I can't stop and search you. Why I don't have problem cause I can't just like guess you might be doing something. Now I could stop you to investigate, but you could walk right by me. I can't put my hands on you, right, you have no proof, no evidence. So the only exception is if you are, possibly, based on articulable facts, armed and dangerous. So for a police officer, for example, who receives inform that you're involved in a crime and that you're armed and dangerous, you may not be, But I can point to actual facts that I receive that tells me when I stop you, I can frisk you, pat you down on your outer clothing specifically to make sure that a weapon is not within your reach. And that's the limit of it. You can't do more than that. But when you send out police, let's say, from northeast Philly to Malcolm X Park, and you say, make sure no one's hanging around the park because we don't want them shooting each other. And then you go up to young black men, young black men, right, and you say like go home, and they say no, and you say, come here, let me let me check you out. Right. Yeah, So you're not going to recover anything, right, You're not going to because there was there was nothing you saw or heard. It's just a harassing way of flexing muscle on you. But you know what, you have a constitutional right not to leave the park. Everybody may want you to, but you're not violating laws. You're staying out there. You're an adult, you're hanging out in the park. You're not doing anything wrong. That's what it's for, right, right, right, So when the police come and say like, okay, you're not doing what I want so now I'm gonna make you stand up, spread your legs and search you. I'm gonna go in your pockets. Now. They are violent, violating the law. And what I'm saying is given the history of this city, given the fact that you know what's gonna happen, given the fact that you the police don't understand what you're saying. When you, as the mayor, say go stop and frisk people, they think they have a legal right to do what they're doing. And I've talked to many police officers who do not know what the legal standard is in stopping frisk. And I was gonna and I was gonna ask about that because one thing in her defense, she she she talked about making sure that they were knowledgeable enough to make you know, cognizant choices. Right, But I funds like everybody needs to be educated. Yeah, both sides, exactly, both sides. But you know, for me, it's kind of one of those things that if you know a cop may be having a bad day, is up to his or under his interpretation to decide, well, what's no constitutional or not right. They have to they have to. It's also thirty five and up for people who have dealt with the stopping frisk and having that time you know that during living that time of when you would be walking down the street. Now, also, what about those who are licensed to carry and you do have a weapon on you? Absolutely thats up another door. It does. And just to kind of put a layer on that, you have a lot of you know, cops that have no communication like you. And I hate because it always sounds like I'm in support you, but I don't want to say that. I'm a support of people who I have seen in the community meeting the people, right and so I see you in the community meeting the people, and so you might be able to talk to a gentleman who may you know, to someone else, to a police look intimidating, so they don't make a decision based on this person looks intimidating right ahead. But what I was gonna say is what Cheryl Parker's booked about. Let's talk about the victims. Now, let's talk about like as a mom, I'm the person who if you in the car and you what is it? Boxing with it? Whatever, I'm gonna be like knocking on the window, like what are you doing in my neighborhood? You don't live around here, So what do we do If we're not gonna have a stoping frisk, We're not till or Terry stops. Then David, Oh, tell us what is the plan of making the crime rate decrease in the city of Philadelphia? Okay? So yeah, so you can make the crime rate decrease and you don't need to violate anybody's rights. First of all, when you actually have facts that lead you to believe reasonably someone's armed and dangerous, you have every right as an officer for your own safety to pack them down. Nobody's saying you can't. The problem is when people ask a Meryl candidate, how will you stop crime in southwest Philly? Oh, I'm gonna do stopping frisk? Okay, a real bad idea. First of all, you're going to alienate the community. You're vilifying the police. I guarantee you you will have problems because you cannot use that tool that way. The best thing you could do is to educate the police. Listen, if you have reasonable suspicion based on facts, someone is armed and dangerous in the process of committing a crime, to protect yourself, you can pack them down. Outside of that you cannot. That's why we don't use it as a technique. Now, what I will say is there's many ways that you can deal with the criminality and particularly the gun violence. That we have. One is we have technology that can identify who's carrying a weapon, and we can use that right now. What we can't tell is you may have a legal weapon. We're not saying just because you have a weapon you're doing anything wrong. But at least now we're alert. And part of that is we have to calm down our officer. We have to train them. And again I did a resolution on mandatory minimum force training for police, because this is a standard type of thing you do. You don't only train police to shoot people. You train them not to shoot people, to use their judgment. They do it in the military. It's not a bizarre thing. But again, my resolution for mandatory minimum force training was defeated in council and Parker tabled it. I don't get it. I don't get it because you have been one of the most progressive council people who have been putting in, you know, legislation or trying to put in legislation to you know, come up with solutions, you know to fix some of the issues that we have, but they keep getting tabled. Why is that? Why do you believe that it is? Well, this is what I think, and and you know, people could fill in whatever they want from there. There is an organization like a baseball team, and this team is a team. They don't always agree with each other, but they are the team and they have this group and even if they oppose each other, they believe in the value of this team because it's the team that gets the money, that picks the people, that decides who the players are. And sometimes or many times, the people on this team feel that the management of this team is actually not doing a good job. And so really the challenge is where do the independent minds, the independent thinkers, the innovative thinkers come into play when they got so much pressure from this organization to not go out outside of the bounds. Let me give an example, and it's a little long, but I think it's a good one that I can explain things about. If there's a pothole, it costs one hundred dollars to fill the pothole for five years, But in politics, that pothole is way to get people paid. So someone who is supporting a politician will get the contract for that pothole, but they don't want one hundred bucks for five years, so they don't feel it so good. And it only lasts for a year, and now instead of one hundred bucks for five years, you get five hundred bucks for five right, so corporate planless. So what happens is you cannot do a good job because we want to get you paid. Now after a while, is not enough to have five hundred dollars, so that one pothole becomes three potholes. Now you got fifteen hundred dollars. And after another while, why even bother filling it? How about you just give me a bill and I'll pay you. Because it really my point as a politician, a corrupt politician, a machine politician, is to get you paid, because the greater good is you're on the team, and you're there to help us get elected, get the vote out. You're there for that, so we're paying you with public service money. And the problem which is okay, as long as you're actually filling that pothole and doing a good job. And now someone gets elected who's an honest person, and they say, you know what, we're paying fifteen hundred dollars and we're not getting anything. We got this empty. I'm gonna take three hundred dollars and fill those three hot poles and let it last for five years. Well what I do with the fifteen hundred dollars, Well, I'm going to keep paying people and we'll add to three hundred. Now it's eighteen hundred dollars to fill the three potholes. Because people don't want to step on somebody's toe. They don't want to upset an elected officials, you know, fundraising guy, contract, the party machine, the nonprofit, the for profit. But if you look at it, we're the poorest big city in America. We have so many problems where people cannot even pay their property taxes, let alone and they got to pay soda taxes. So how are we going to fix schools, take care, roads, provide social service, mental health, do all the things we're supposed to do according to the law. When we have such an a bloated and expensive system that is never going to reduce that fifteen dollars from people getting paid. And that's the problem because good people are acquiescing to this whole system. And that's why it's time for a change. So it seems like a it's like an uphill battle that you're running on a downward slope. It doesn't make sense. I mean, how do you believe that even if you do, I guess it will change if you if you became mayor do you then get the help because now you're part of that team. Oh I don't need the help. Okay, No, I'm against that team. So let me say this. So let me say that God, for thirty years, For thirty years, you're swimming up stream. If you want to fight the machine, you're swimming up Niagara Falls. Good luck, you have a chance. But one year out of thirty you're flowing downstream because everybody wants that change. They're sick and tired of it. And the machine is swimming upstream trying to convince people. You like the way this is going. You like losing your house, You like the sheriff sale, You like a filthy subway system. You like the police coming out stop it and frisking you. You like the National Guard. You no, you don't like it, And you're trying to convince people you got to like this, And I'm just saying they're swimming up stream, now they may win, they may win, or they may lose. But the thing is, I don't have a hard race. So how do you then? I see you spark, this is my question to him, But how do you then if you become mayor? Right, how do you enact or put in, you know, play, all of the ideas that you have with no support? Yeah, you don't need support. What happens is the mayor is a tremendously powerful person in our city. And what happens the mayor single handily runs the whole city employee force. So for example, if I am mayor on November eighth, you know, I put together a transition team. I have a police commissioner in mind, I have an L and I commissioner. I have a streets commissioner. I have to go find nine school board members who will agree with what I'm telling them to do. Got right, And here's what I'm telling to do. You will make all schools equitable. You will make the budget transparent. You will stop telling people how to live. That is not your job. You will teach kids how to read, write, and all that on an equal basis, and they will decide what they want to be who they are and their parents. Now you as a school you serve the parents, you serve the community. You're not boss over them, right, And so we'll get rid of that. And now I'm going to have five of you. You're going to pick one fifth to city, and you're going to go into that one fifth. You're going to know every school. You're going to hold your meeting with the parents, the community, with the kids, and you're going to represent in the school board meeting what they in particular want. Okay, going back to earlier, I have like a two part question. So one is a comment. One is a question. Yes, going back to the terry stops or stopping frisk. I haven't heard candidates pull back the layers like Onion has layers. Layers are we're doing this because of crime in the city, but Philadelphia is the poorest city. So we're talking about stopping frisk, but we're not saying, hey, stopping frisk is going to stop, or you don't have to do that because we're we're going to have higher minimum wage, we're going to have training courses that are free to prepare you for better jobs. Like we're not talking about what the by product is the crime, but where is the layers of why they're doing this the crime. The crime is because of the property first question, and then second, because I might not get the mic again, just the residents have become increasingly vocal in their opposition to Philadelphia trash burning in their county. What are the next steps for that? So whichever one you want to answer first, well, let's start with the most obvious and important question is how do you deal with the root cause in a effective manner? In other words, we've been talking about root causes for decades and yet they're never addressed, and the actual conditions, like the disparity in education, continues to exist. So what I would say is this, you're absolutely correct, but because we cannot have a functioning city if people cannot go to school without fear of getting killed, they can't stand at a bus station, they can't go on a subway system like, we really have to have number one, show people that our city cares. The fact that the police do not respond, they're not there, they're not patrolling, leaves people with the impression that this city just does not care what happens to them. And so the first thing that I would do is Mayor I would make sure that we have visible policing, And I said community policing. That's why I find community policing and stopping for us to be exclusive. You cannot send a police force in and tell them to start making up reasons of frisk people. Yeah, you may put some people like put them underground for a little while, but not for long. So when the police show up, when they are there, they not only show a presence of safety, but they will ensure that dumping doesn't happen, that illegal tractor trailers aren't parked in front of people's houses, that cars aren't going eighty miles an hour through their neighborhoods, or three hundred dirt bikes and ATVs or run through at two o'clock in the morning. And when the police arrived, street cleaning arrives, empty lots are taken care of. But the three biggest things that I would do is one would I would immediately start with visible resources and equitable efforts that are visible to students, parents and others, such as the appointment of school board members, being a present hearing from people to reform education. Secondly, you know, I would bring a vocational career into every school. And thirdly, I'd put a VET program where people can you young people can get a certified and work part time with pay in some of our best companies as part of the VET process that they would get to getting certified in their job. Then I would take the libraries and I would change the hours and make them suitable to the community. But they have to be clean and safe. And then the rec centers they have to have resources. And so we can then start with moving affordable housing into the community, building more units, using skilled labor from our neighborhoods where we have so many capable people that can't get a job because of other issues such as you know, like rebuild. It's supposed to have neighborhood labor and it just doesn't. And that's the politics of it, too much politics. So I do believe that once you start addressing that, once you start showing the young people that we're looking out for you, we care about you, we are going to have to remove dangers. You know, if someone's just going to insist on shooting people and killing people, they have to be given time out. You're going to be removed. And I hope you think about things and kind of redeem your life from where you are, but you're not going to be hurting people. And then we bring in the jobs and what you said, Look, this government spends very little time on the plus side of the economy. We need to develop the economy. People need to have opportunity, They need to see that what they aspire to be can actually happen. That's why I spend so much time on the arts economy, on technology, on innovation, on culture, on global trade because it creates so much opportunity. And manufacturing is coming back to the United States, but we better bring it back here to Philadelphia. Where As in the past, because this is not the theoretical thing. When we had a train manufacturer, we had people with felony records making good money doing high tech welding, and once they got certified in high tech welding, they could get a job anywhere. And I've also said this, unless we deal with the incarcerated population and returning citizens, if we don't get that number to start going down, because it's three hundred and seventy five thousand Philadelphians that have been incarcerated. If I multiply that times every child that they have that no longer have as a father, in their life, and a father helping mom and mom having someone to share the responsibilities. If we turn that into four hundred thousand people, if we turn that into four hundred and twenty five thousand, we will never get past this problem. So I'll be remiss if I didn't bring us up, because you know, we had a conversation before about you talking about support and building more prisons. Yes, but then you just said that there's more people going into prisons, right, and so how so how do we, you know, walk that fine line of you know, trying to make sure people don't go into those prisons they need to be built. Yeah, because of this, because there's nothing like that. What I would say is, if you have on average one hundred people who need to go to hospital every year and your capacity is seventy five, you're going to have a lot of sick people making other people sick and unnecessary illness. If you increase your capacity to one hundred people who get sick, you will be able to address those sick people. Now, if you can increase to one twenty five, you could do preventative healthcare. You want to get to the point where you're not treating the sickness. You're preventing the sickness. And right now, because of politics, are politicians not wanting to be for mass incarceration. They are letting our capacity be too little. And when that happens, in other words, we don't have the capacity for who the courts it's not us, it's not you and me. The courts have heard from a victim, a victim has identified an offender. That person is being held for one reason or another in our county prisons until the day to trial. Now, if we don't have capacity, they're on the streets oftentimes looking for the victim and the witness. And now these people don't want to report crimes anymore. What we should do is have the capacity, but change the nature of how we hold people. In other words, for me, I would like to have basically minimum security type facilities so that when someone is a first time offender of a nonviolent crime, they're not stuck in one of our county prisons with someone with the aggravated assaults and other things, you know, and they should not lose their job, and they should stay in touch with their family. But when we have this type of facility, I now am contacting the state institutions to say, when you have someone coming down to eighteen years or a twenty year sentence, we want them in our We want them in the County of Philadelphia to begin reintegrating them into our city where they are able to move about within the facility, acclimate themselves to technology, meet their kids, talk to their families without having to pay bills. And in the second year, I'm going to move them into a transitional housing in the community, which is much more smaller setting where they don't have to worry about paying the electric bill things like that. Like after eighteen years, they're not just going to walk back out, you know, twenty years later. Give them two years of transition to get back in so they don't end up back into the system. Now because we don't have capacity. What is happening is our our corrections officers they're quitting. And because they're quitting, it's becoming more dangerous. And now if I'm like an IT person and you're a corrections officer and you're not coming back to work, guess what, they don't let me out either, because you have a half a certain number of personnel staff and when you're under like I'm supposed that my shift is over. I want to go home on Friday. I won't get home till Monday. And guess what, I'm not going to keep that job either. Wow. Yeah, So the mismanagement, like in other words, what I find objection objectionable. I understand why people would say, don't buy build a new prison because you're for mass incarceration. Okay, you can say that, but you're not in charge. I'm running for a position to be in charge, and I have to be able to say, I know how you feel, but guess what capacity. The lack of capacity is getting people hurt. It's putting juveniles in solitary confinement. We're not moving them. They get no credit while while they're in our county and in our Philadelphia prison system, we have murders, we have violent attacks because all those people are cooped up in there and they're stressed out and they're locked into their holding cells because what we don't have enough people? Yeah, you know, we had we had a couple people, uh send correspondence to us saying that's you know, the the environment in some of those prisons are horrible. I mean from not even having either can or even he I agree. And the thing of it that I'm going to say is this. I agree because I was in the District Attorney's office. I went to the prisons often, and the prisons were, believe it or not, in better condition in the nineteen eighties than they are now that they've been sitting there getting old. The technology well, like air conditioning, the systems are breaking down, and you don't have enough people to watch over the and so when you don't have enough people, it's like when you have one kid, you could dote on that one kid. When you got twelve kids, you know, I guess you've got time out, roots, all kind of things going on. We have to have the proper number of people because what I'm saying is this, Yeah, we're a prison, but when you're in our custody, you're in our care, Like we have to have that attitude anymore, like how we treat you. I wanted to make sure that you was able to clear that up. Yeah, because I think as we gave because Schryl Parker was here in we wanted to allow a platform for her to clear up some of the things that're been over there. And that was a big issue right there. One of the things that I do agree that you guys are kind of sit on and agree with is trades and supporting that piece of it. Sure, she mentioned year round or enacting year around kind of school, you know, and what is your thought around that, and do you believe that's that's another solution that should be put in place for you know, our community, the kids out there. So I don't know exactly what she means, so I don't want to put words in her mathster. What I'll say, what I would do and what I believe based on best practice, is this, every child is different, and in a good education system, you treat each child differently. And and so for that, not every child needs additional schooling. Some children need addition math, some children need additional music. Some children are very gifted in like let's say arts, and other kids hate arts and they love math. So you're trying to have a system not one size fits all, and you're not trying to push every child through some type of square peg or something like what happened in our city once upon a time is someone decided every child should go to college. Well that was a big mistake because not every child wants to go to college. Some children are just very gifted in things that have nothing to do with college, and it's unrealistic. They don't have the financial wherewithal they need to get themselves like settled first and then they could begin to do They may go to college later, they may get a master's degree or whatever. But to try to force children. So what I'd say is this, when you have kids, and we know who these kids are, who are in underfunded schools with a lack of the proper curriculum in violation of state law, Let's take care of that first. Let's make sure every school is you know, of good quality, good facilities, good curriculum. They all have the same opportunities in art and music and sports and all. Let's do that first. And let's make sure there's vocational career options for them. And then let's look at the kids who need summer learning. And I don't mean summer school punishment. I mean an enjoyable process. Let's make sure we have the devices and the opportunities for them to really grow and develop themselves. And so yeah, for kids who are for example, going to good school, got great parents, they have the wealth, they can go to France whatever they want. They don't need additional schooling. But for kids who have nothing in their homes, there should be something enjoyable about schooling. It should be fun and educational, and they may need the opportunity. Can't force some opportunity to have a little extended tutoring, to have something to do on the weekend, to have something over the summer that is and riching because they want to go there. And you know what, a lot of it has to do with technology, gaming, that type of thing which has to be worked in. Like in my day, being then I'm sixty three, everybody in my day you would have a basketball court. But for these kids, it's not a basketball court. You're going to have to provide, you know, the things that they want to relax and enjoy. And just like in my day, a beautiful basketball court with a fantastic leather basketball, man, we would go crazy, right, But these kids, you give them, like the games, the consoles that they will go crazy in there. They'll be having such a good time. But that is a tool for us while they're having fun, to teach them something, to explore engineering, to get them to say, hey, listen, didn't you have a good time, Well let's go to math. Now, let's do a little geometry, Let's do a little group activity here, Let's clean up the school a little bit. Let's all get together and do some things for their neighborhood. So where is David Oh? At is November eighth? Right? November seven, November seventh day, November seven, November seventh, November eighth, when the work started? That's the thing. That's when we find out what happened? To think? Maybe, so where is David oh? November? Uh? I want you to do both sides. Yeah, so November eighth your first day as mayor what do you do? Or November eighth you find out you didn't make me or what do you do? So I haven't thought past November seventh, Like I just I don't give it any thought. So what happens is but I could tell you, you know, obviously, if if I win the election or lose the election, the next mayor is going to be sworn in in the beginning of January. Uh So if I don't win the election, I don't have really much to do but pack up my things in the office and take them home and do that type of thing. And then whatever I'm going to think of, I'm going to think of because I really have no plans. You know, what I'll say is I didn't intend to do public service. I ended up doing public service, and I've answered the call. You know. I just feel like in life, you know, there's things you want to do, and there's things you are called to do, and you either don't answer the call or you answer to call. Right So I believe in God, and I believe that when I stand before God, God will say, hey, I called you. Did you not hear me? And with what you know, I wanted you to do this thing. Like you know about government. You were in city council. You know the good and the bad, and I wanted you. I wanted you to believe in me and fight the system for me, for all my children. And I don't care. You know, like whatever was going to happen to you, you had to have faith in me to stand up and do the right thing. So listen, you know, if I win, here's the work I do. If I don't win, I do some other work. But I feel also that there's a certain amount that you give to some thing, like in other words, I wouldn't be a counselman for like, you know, year after year after year term after term after term. I just feel like you serve for what you have to offer, and when you don't have you're not productive. Like step away, let someone else in. And I didn't want to leave, you know, counsel and just step away when I know certain things and I've tried to do things and I could do it as mayor. Like I just feel me personally, there's a lot of injustice in this city. And I just look at the people losing their houses and I just think about those property taxes and those kids getting pulled out by Department of Human Service and those crying moms and all that, and I'm just saying, man, somebody like the mayor, they should clean this stuff up because they got the power to do it. Yeah. I just want to say thank you for your service. I have seen you really working and being in those those places, especially as a release of the art. I'm an advocate for the arts. I'm gonna constantly talk about the arts, engage in the arts, and how you come in because again, a lot of those you know, extra curriculum curricular activities that some of us do that's our way out or we will be in those prisons that you talk about right. Let me say this also, but see, and that's one of the things I want to say. It's not like a hobby. Like for some people, the arts is who they are, like that's there, like they're that's their blessing. And not everybody's got that. And if they don't, they don't fulfill what they're calling is what their gifts are. They're not quite the person they're supposed to be. We can't deny them that and say, oh, you just want to goof around with some art stuff. No, we have to say, no, that's who you are, and you could be really grade at it. You could contribute well in so many ways. We got to as an education system, we got to meet your needs and your desires and not say hey, that's just nonsense. You should go to college and be an architect. That's not for us to say that one thing is better than the other. Yeah. So I want to thank you for coming to the show. You this is the show three Yes, yeah, you've been here three times, and so we always ask you a lot of the questions you're answering with no issues. I want you to cuss. Did my question I had a two parts. I don't think I didn't get the bart do yes, yes, the chest to residents regarding the trash burning for a Philly, are there any next steps for that? Well, it depends on who the mayor is. But if I am mayor, I am not sending my trash to pollute some other community. You know, that's as simple as that. I wouldn't want them to send their trash to our city to pollute our city. Now, if we are sending our trash being told it's being properly disposed of, okay, that's fine. But if we now know it's just polluting stuff, we need to stop it. Now. Does it make it tough for us? Yet? It does. We're going to have to find a place where this trash goes, where it's properly disposed of. But my point is you can't send it somewhere and let it be, you know, adverse to the health and interests of another community. Yeah, we can't do that. Thank you for answering that. Is it? Anything else you want to say to the community before you leave? We you know, Scharyel Parker was able to say her last words. We want to give you, you know, your last words, you know, your last kind of pitch to the community. You know, we only do the mayor election once every four years, and whoever gets elected mayor, they're usually there for eight years. And so if you look at it this way, if we don't get a change now, you're stuck with what we got for another eight years. And I'm just saying this personally, I am for a thorough change. I'm for a whitewashing, scrubbing of this. The politics is terrible, and they're too comfortable. They don't care to respond. You can't get them on the phone, you know, at whatever your complaints, sorry, they don't hear you. They are too entrenched. And I would just say this, please, please please, please vote for me and let me clean some house power washing. Yeah, and one more question, Yeah, what will you do for independent black media? I mean, well, listen, I will do a lot for independent black media and for other independent media because quite frankly, and I'll just say this publicly, I find that the mainstream media, you know, is very, very unsatisfactory. There's just too much political consideration. They're all part of the system. You don't get like the whole independent thought, the independent research. You don't get a different perspective. You can't you know, like independent media, you're bringing on different people, you're exploring different things. You know, I wish the mainstream media was like you know, we imagine them back in the days of Walter Cronkite or something. But today, with so many platforms, so many ways to get your new you know, people are not just going with mainstream media anymore. And the future is bright for independent media like the arts, right, yes, it's bright if we support it. And if independent media is doing such a bang up job, guess what they're gonna bring mainStreet media into the same level, because right now mainstream media is not holding up there. And you heard it. I'm trying to tell you, ladies and gentlemen, listen. One of the things I know, right, one of the things that we were excited to see is looking through our analytics and we reach over two million people, right, And we were excited about that, and so much so that we try our best to make sure that we're just not talking, but we're talking about the solutions. How can we fix things? And every time you come on, that's all you talk about, the solutions. Here's the problems, this is how I'm going to fix it. And we appreciate that right. I think that that's how the city should move. I think it's a lot of politics. I think it's a lot of politicians being too political and part of that team, so to speak. That I don't know what that team is or the why behind it, but I am hopeful that we'll have someone that can lead us to where we're supposed to be in the city. I don't believe that the bad things happen in Philly the Philadelphia is Trump said. I think that it's amazing things that's happening here in Philadelphia, and I'll proudly be a Philadelphian. So kudos to you, my friend. Yeah, we we you know, we we hope the best, hope the best for you know, the right candidate. We don't necessarily endorse anyone. We always say that we're here for whomever is in those communities and fighting for the community, and so that's what we're doing. You keep fighting a good fight, and I'm hoping that you know, you will have a chance before the eighth to spar So to speak, if you know, she I think she could do one, at least one. I think she could put together at least want to talk to us, and she's competent, articulate, whatever the reason, and it's beyond me, but the time is over right. We're heading in November seventh, and we were the only one of the only platforms to be able to have both of you guys on and it was a fight to do well. It was an interesting time trying to get both candidates and it wasn't me. So what I further do that you boys, Greg with the beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, and sir all right and David, oh, the beautiful David Oh. We talked weekly, y'all. We out all right,