Dr. Lindsey Beauboeuf The Haitian Doctor talks career and modern medicine

Without further ado. You know, this is my favorite segment in the show. I get the opportunity to talk to the good old folks who's doing the work out there, right, and some of my favorite people we have on the show today, right, So, spark why don't you let me know who do we have today? Who do we have today, Bister Wilsey, Today we have doctor Lindsey Babe Booth. She is a Board certified family medicine physician and founder of the Mosaic Lifestyle Medicine in Atlanta, where she is restoring a more personal, relationship centered approach to care through direct primary care inspired by her Haitian heritage. She also leads the Haitian Doctor and Corporation promoting cultural relevant health education in the Haitian dyspora. I'll already know what to do. Let's give a warm we talk weekly. Welcome to doctor Lindsey the Booth. Hey, Hey, hey, hey, how are you? How are you? Hi? Hi? Everyone? Thank you so much for that introduction, Sparkle. I was like, is she. Talking about me? I think she strung about me. Now you look in the mis I'm talking about you. Thank you so much. Yes, In fact, I am doctor lindsay. I am able certify a doctor and founding medicine and I do have a new practice in Smyrna, Georgia, which is in the Atlanta metro area called Mosaic Lifestyle Medicine. And my goal and that practice is to restore trust and to bring back real relationship with patients what we used to have, the doctor patient relationship. That's my goal. That's what I do there. And thank you so much for having me today, and thank you God for divine alignment. And I am happy to speak with you guys. Fantastic, fantastic. You know, what's interesting is that you talk about trust, and we've been talking a lot about trust, whether it be AI, whether it be journalism, whether it be news is, whether it be like even the healthcare industry. And I want to expand on that idea in terms of trust. One of the things that I hear in medicine, especially as it relates to black women, is you know how they don't necessarily trust their physicians because they sometimes tell them like, look, I'm in pain, and the physicians feel, oh, you're okay, you'll be okay. You know. So when we talk about restoring trust, what does that look like for you, and how do you believe we can restore that, especially to some of the vulnerable communities. Thank you so much for this question. I have to start by saying that I myself experience the lack of trust within the healthcare system as a doctor, right, and it was a reason for my burnout and a catalyst for me to start my practice, which is a dire primary care practice called mosaical. As I stated, and how to restore trust, we have to go back to the fundamentals. Guys, French is my first language, so bear with me as I butcher English. Okay, we have to go back to what medicine used to be, and it is a real relationship. And just like every relationship, you need certain things to make it work. All of them run on time, access, communication, right. And in a traditional care system, you see your patient in seven minutes. You don't have time to build trust. You don't have time to listen to what they need to say. You're just checking off a checklist. People don't have access when they have questions, They can't rely on their doctors to have the time to respond to their questions, so they turn to social media, where there's a lot of information and a lot of misinformation and a lot of disinformation, and that's what erodes the trust and the doctor. So what I do to help build that backup is I listen. You cannot have trust when you don't have time to listen to people. I listen. I listen to people. I meet people where they are. I allow them to come as they are. They don't have to code switch, they don't have to leave part of their culture outside the exam room. And to me, that's the biggest thing making sure that we're able to have that relationship again with patients, because without it, there's no real care. Absolutely, Doctor lindsay, I want to first to say thank you, thank you because. As a woman, a woman of color, a young. Woman, I think that that's what we like to see. We want our daughters, our grandchildren, we want them to see what representation looks like and that they can do it too, because to aspire to be a doctor. Sometimes depending on who the little girl is, sometimes. You know what said to her is that she can't achieve such great status. So I want to first say thank you for that. But secondly, I heard what you were saying out how getting back doctor to doctor. I mentioned earlier that healthcare. I've been in healthcare for about thirty thirty years now, front office, back office, I mean, doing it all, and I've seen a lot of different changes in healthcare. But one of the things that I just mentioned is I don't see the the doctor and the. Patient relationship and even more with the provider. And do you think that it's becoming even more invasive because of the shift of AI. Well, I don't think it's because of the shift of AI. AI is a tool. If you take a tool, it doesn't matter what the nature of the tool is, but what's most important is the hand that handles it. Right. I use AI in my practice. I use AI in my practice because it makes me more efficient, because it helps me write my notes. But it doesn't tell me what's going on with the patient in front of me. That's the human touch, that's the relationship. So I don't think to answer your question, I don't think that's the reason behind the breakdown. Honestly, I really I don't even feel like I should be seeing this on air like that. But I think that we lost that trust when when the system started putting profits before people. Mmmm, that value based care method. Yes, you know, that that fee for service and all that good stuff. And to me, there's hope. There's hope with direct primary care, where you cut out the middleman and you it's straight to the source. It's it's it's my patient and myself in the room and nobody else dictating what happens between us. That's why I have hope. Fantastic, Doctor Lindsay, I want to pull. This is a guest that's actually on the show, and she has a question for you. She said, why did you choose to open your practices? Is it Smartna, Smartna. SiRNA. Of in your home country that could also be benefactors of your philosophy. Thank you so much, Monica for this question. The honest and total truth is that I can't go home right now. I am born and raised in Haiti, but Haiti's going through a lot and it's not safe for me or my family to be there. So I choose to to root where I'm planted. And that's why I'm practicing the way that I do where I live in Atlanta, Georgia, And that's why I pick Serina. Fantastic. You know, I look at I look at doctors. I look at physicians and you know, oftentimes there's this question that I hear as it relates to how medicine is evolving, right, and it the argument with should we be using these medicines because it's big pharma? And are they keeping us sick so we can continue to pay for their medicines? What is your what is your thoughts on holistic medicine versus you know, kind of like big farmer medicine medications And is there a you know, a perfect environment where we can use both or both for beneficial Like what are your thoughts on that? I love that you asked that question, because first of all, we have to define what is holistic medicine, right, because if we don't define holistic medicine, then we won't be able to say if there's a difference between that and big pharma. Holistic medicine to me means the medicine that takes into account the entire patient. I mean they're their reality, where they live, their stress load, their family, their work, their physiology, everything. That's what I call holistic medicine right. Their culture, their faith. Again, I'm a Haitian, so I grew up with bush medicine really right, teas and concoctions and masculity, which is a castor oil. And when I see my patients who are also Haitian, I don't say throw that stuff away, you need a pill. I embrace their culture with them and I learned from it. I allow people to bring their whole self into the room, and I do their research to ensure that whatever they're doing is not causing harm to them, because I did take an oath. So there's not a real separation between what holistic medicine is in quote unquote western medicine. I don't know who blurred the line who or actually who created the separation, but that's not my philosophy. And yes, there's a lot of chatter about doctors having a knee jerk reaction and before they know what's going on, they prescribe a medication. But that's not a problem of the medication itself. That's a problem of the system. It's a problem that shows you that the doctor doesn't have time to really investigate. We're scientists, we love to figure out, we love puzzles, but we can't solve a puzzle in three minutes. Now we have to resolve, resolve to doing what is easy, convenient, and will satisfied standard medicine. But that's not real. That's not how we do this, that's not how we were ought to do this. Yeah, doctor Lindsey. Research has shown that people. Are living longer, but they're not thriving. They're living longer, but they're on medicines, medication, and you talked about holistic medicine, which I save is kind of like a preventive versus like what when you take medication for it to be acute to you know, to get you back where you can do the preventive. Do you think that the world that that research is accurate, that people are living longer and but they're not thriving. It's more people in you know, elderly homes and nursing homes. What can we do to help prevent that as we start to get older for the next generation. So I feel like this question you're asking me is a question of quality versus quantity, the quality of the years versus the quantity of the years. And I think goodness science has made big strides to be able to give us more years, but in doing so, it didn't restore the human part of those years. And that's something that we have to do as people. So, yes, you can live longer and be in a nursing home, like you say, But being in a nursing home is not a sentence. It's the people there with you. Are they taking good care of you? Do people remember to be people, to take care of each other, to love one another. I think that's why people are not thriving. I don't think it has anything to do with the science or with the profession. I think it has to do with going back to the roots of what makes people thrive, and it's commune unity. That's what I bring in my practice. I try my best to bring people together, to bring to foster that community because that's how people thrive. Wow, I didn't think of it like that. It's more so like having a purpose like you said, having community, having things to do, having that is a part of the thriving. Yes, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. And what happens is we're so focused on results, right that we forget the essence of it. We forget the thread that binds us all because we're so focused on curing. We're focused on the lab numbers, we're focused on the price, the advancements, the science, the AI, all of that good stuff. Which is meant to help us. But you know, we were never supposed to forget who we are, you know, and the last year together. Yes, yes, doctor Lindy, what made you want to become a doctor? I love this question. Oh my gosh, work, you're on fire. Honest truth again. I never wanted to be a doctor growing up. That was not my fan. I wanted to bake, to make pastries, to have one of the biggest pastry shop in Haiti. But then when I was eight years old, my grandfather, the first love of my life, had a stroke, and I saw how he got sick and debilitated, and I felt so powerless because we were still in Haiti. We didn't have, you know, a really good running healthcare system. We still don't. We're trying. And I saw how I lost my my grandpa, and I felt so much spain that I didn't I never wanted anyone to ever go through that. And that's how I became a doctor, you know, That's that's how it all started. Are there any advancements in medicine and Haiti that I guess are making some type of differences or changes there or so we we were starting to It's a it's a ginormous problem, right, And just like you attack any big mountain of an issue, you start piece by piece, little by little. And I really think that we are seeing a silent, quiet, Haitian renaissance, right. And there's a lot of chaos, a lot of pain in the country, but the people are not losing hope, they're not losing faith. People like me who are outside of Haiti, we're still getting together. We're still figuring things out. And the advents that you are asking about is not like a new vaccine or a new hospital in Haiti. That's not what it is. What it is is this awakening of Haitian pride, because that's where you start, and that's how you rebuild a community. That's how you build a country is by loving it again. And I think that's the biggest advancement in healthcare and Haiti right now, is that people are remembering home, remember remembering how to love home, especially after knowing that we qualified for the World Cup. What I don't even think My mom was born the first time Haiti went to the World Cup, and now we're seeing it and my kids get to see it, and people that had to leave Haiti and to save their lives they're seeing that too. That's that's amazing to us. And I think there's hope. That's how you start over. Yeah. I love the pride and the passion in your you know, in your voice when you're speaking about that. That's that's just amazing. And it just reminded me of you know, my aunt, she's she's no longer with us, but she would often travel over to Haiti for missionary work and she just she dedicated her life to that and she enjoyed it and and that was something that just made her just so happy and she felt like that was her purpose in life. And that just made me think about how, like, you know, there's people here that people around that still want to do that type of work and that philanthropy work and things like that. How do you how do you think like people here, you know, that don't necessarily have the means to you know, travel and and support, how can they support in different ways? That's that's that's some that's some things to think about. Support can mean a lot of things, right, and I think that one easy way to support efforts that are being done for Haiti is to find someone that resonates with you, right and find their social media account and promote that account, give them a like, a comment, reshare their story. It costs you nothing. It helps the algorithm to propel their message. And that's an easy way to do things. And now, if you want to be a little bit more generous, you can support giving your time. Everybody has a talent, everybody has a gift. You can share that gift with someone who's working on a project that supports the rehabilitation and restoration of the Haitian community. You can do that. I mean, in the nonprofit arm of my mission, The Haitian Doctor, I welcome everyone to come and help however they can. If it's someone who wants to give a couple of hours filming social media for the Haitian Doctor, yes please. If it's someone who consumed the consumes the content and finds that hey, that's that's a really cool concept. Share it with family. You don't have to be Haitian to do. To share something you like on it on social media, that is support. So I hope that I answered your question. Absolutely, No, No, I got it. I want to bring it back to Haiti. Sock Passe, shock Passe, you know, you know I gotta give y'all a shout out to uh Stevens Stevenson Savar or something like that. He just did something that broke records and was amazing in the New Olympic win the Winter Olympics and so cross country skating, I mean a skiing and he like, uh, this is something that was unbelieved first Haitian scared to do something like that. So that was pretty dope because there was someone who looked like us to do that and he was from Haiti. So shout out to him, and you have to look him up. His name is Stevenson Savar. That's what his name is, Stevenson Savar. Really dope, so shout out to him. Monica has a couple more questions for you. Well, this is kind of like a statement, he said bedsop Man, She said, bedsop manner says a lot to patience for them to feel comfortable and a feeling of worth. You have a lot of doctors out there who or physicians out there who will come and act like as if you have no feelings, you can't feel anything, you have no emotions, you have nothing. You just supposed to lay there, get stuck in that stack. Right. I think you know, there needs to be I mean I'm not a physician, of course, but there needs to be some type of training on that cultural competency, you know, like you know this, this is how maybe this culture responds to something, or this is how it feels when you act as if you don't care. Well, it's somebody who lost a parent or something like that, right, And so it's about identifying and seeing the patient that you're working with and working with them at that point, what's your thoughts on that? That is? That's the whole purpose almost of mosaic lifestyle medicine is culturally fluent care because I have seen doctors who who are training me, who who probably i've seen in passing, treat people not with disrespect, but in ways that probably would have made somebody not feel good. Right. And we also have to frame that narrative a little bit differently because I see a lot of it's like, there's this I'm trying to find a word, this crusade against physicians, right, and we've seen it, we are watching, we are watching the news. Not every doctor is a good doctor, right, and not everybody who goes to medical school has empathy. But also there are people who are neurodivergent in all fields neurodivergence and all fields, including the field of members of medicine. So sometimes, yes, there are some really not great physicians out there. I'm not going to dismiss that. I'm not going to gaslight somebody who had a less than good experience with a doctor who did not make make them feel seen. But I also want people to have the lens of grace and give people a chance to maybe see that Okay, you're not supposed to treat me like this, but you did. I don't know why. I will tell you how I feel, and I'll tell you how I wish you had treated me, because from everybody. I'm glad that you said that. And it makes me think of a video that has been circulating on I believe IG where this physician was actually telling her members, her followers that this is how you communicate with a doctor if you need k right. And so she was saying that there's you know, certain terminology that you use, or you know, if you feel like they're not doing their due diligence, you can say X, Y and Z when you're working, when you're working with patients, do you you know, talk to them about you know, the expansion of you know, terminology that they should use when working with different physicians to make sure they get the care that they need. It just breaks my heart that we have to resort to cheat sheets to give to patients so that they can advocate for their own care. Breaks my heart. It's a symptom of a misaligning system. But yes, there are some keywords, especially for US black women, women of color, immigrant women, women who English is not their first language, there are certain keywords that we are forced to use in this system so that we can get the care we deserve. Yes, I agree, and yes I do that when I send patients to specialists, for example, if I don't have a specific after that i'm sending the patient to, or because I can't control everything, if I'm sending someone to a hospital, I'm not there with them. So I do have to coach my patients sometimes on what to say so that they can be taken seriously, and that does break my heart that I have to do this. But until we're all able to do this right, we're gonna survive, because that's why that's what we do right as the people. We adapt, we survive and we thrive. Wow, I love that you take that position. And so that's an excellent transition to say, what are your your favorite tips of tricks that you can say to a young lady who's watching you and feel inspired about, you know, the care that you give to you know, what could you say to them to make sure that they, you know, say the right things to get the proper results. What would you what would you tell them to say or or what are some key words terms and things like that? Well, keywords is a bit it's a bit much because it depends on what the situation is. But what I would say to somebody who's listening to me right now is remember, you're worth it. You deserve good care. Advocate for yourself. It doesn't matter if they think that you make sense. It doesn't matter if they think you are angry black woman, angry his fining. It doesn't matter what they think. What matters is what you think about yourself and what you know you deserve. And I'm telling you you're worth it and you deserve it. That awesome doctor, I see behind you some very interesting beautiful paintings. Are they are they do they have like a sypolicness to them? Or tell us more about the paintings behind you. Thank you, thank you for noticing these are actually paintings from our homes and Haiti. I am a avid lover of art and especially Haitian art. My husband paints, his father is an artist, and I just I just love to surround myself with things that remind me of home. And I'm home right now, and this is the first room in our home, and this is our little gallery wall. Awesome, thank you for sharing that. Yeah, I have a similar wall too in our reception gallery. We have the same thing. I love to expose my patients to culture. In fact, there's a study that says the more you get exposed to culture, the lower your rates of depression. So I'm like, what they're coming to the doctors, might as well expose them there and at the same time showcase my patient call culture. So that's what I do. That's awesome. I was actually going to ask a very similar question that she asked. It was like the Henrietta Laxed thing about how women of color, just women in general, but specifically women of color, our pain level is not. The truth of what we said. There was a story here in the Philadelphia area where a woman was in labor and she went to the hospital or the emergency room, and they basically turned her away because they told her that she wasn't in that much pain. And the father of the of the child, that the unborn child. They winded up having the baby in the car. And it's so sad because she voiced it her she had an advocate, which is her husband, and you know, we we we I think everybody has a story of something of ruture because it actually happened to me. Where we're telling them our pain level, we're saying how we feel, and they're not believing. And it's like when those type of things happen, what do you do? Who do you call? You know, It's like if you get a patient advocate or the person within the hospital, they're usually the same people working for them, which. They're not going to be the best of advocate. So I thank you for you know, letting us know that unfortunately the misalignment is, you know, within the healthcare system. But I did want to mention one of the things that Monica had mentioned. She says, did you bring patients with you to your new practice or are you starting from scratch? I because of the nature of contracts and medicine and how you work in medicine. We are not allowed allowed to take patient right with us, but nobody can tell the patients where to go for their care. So I do have a couple patients, a few that followed me from my previous job. And yes, I am somewhat starting from scratch. Mosaic has been open since and seeing patients since January thirteenth, so yesterday made it two months, and we are happy that we are surpassed. We've surpassed the numbers that we projected to have as far as members, and it's all it's all because of God. Really, nothing I'm doing but just listening to what he asked me to do. He's my CEO, and I welcome people who want the top of care that is relationship forward culture. If you went and fade the line, no matter what your background is, Mosaic can be your care home. And we've been open for two months now and it's been great. Fantastic Congratulations to you, Congratulations to you. I have one more question before I let you go this tom Flu, what is the legacy that you would like to leave for you know, Mosaic and just you period in general as it relates to your practice. I want to show people how to do it in a way that makes everybody that engages with the healthcare system, everybody, every single person, I want to show how to do it to make them feel seen and embraced and cared for. That's the legacy I want to to leave with Mosaiic. I'm not here to build something just to how the young people say it, for clout, for fame. I'm here to Mozaic is the first prototype of the way that I see care should be given. And my legacy is just to give everyone who truly cares about patients a blueprint. Wow, that's my legacy. Fantastic, fantastic. I want to give you a round of applause, round of applause. We can tell that you truly care, you know, especially to the people who you work with, So I just want to give kudos to that and continue to wish you much success. Before we let you go, can you let everyone know how they can get in contact, what you find you and all that little stuff. Thank you so much for the round of applause, for the platform, for giving me a mike, and if someone wants to reach out to me, they can find me on social media at Mosaic Care. It's m O Z A I K Care, c A R R E and my own doctor underscore Lindsey that's the full Ward Doctor. And of course you can always find us using our website your Mosai dot care. Fantastic round of applause. I like to thank you for coming to the show and we talk weekly. We always tell people once you come to the show, you a friend to the show, so you're always welcome to come back. And make sure you like to subscribe so when your particular you know, interview come out, you can have your interview and you know when it airs. But I want to thank you for tuning in and any less words for the people who's watching. Last words there let me think about it is because I have so many words on my heart right now. Password is you are worth it, you are loved, and keep your head up. It's all gonna be okay. Here you go. You are worth it, you are loved, and keep your head up because it's all gonna be okay. There you go. With that said, it's nothing else left to be said. I'm your boy. Charles Bregny with the. Beautiful, classy Lady Sparko. And the beautiful Lauren got hurt, all right, rues for Laurence is beautiful in the beautiful doctor Lindsey. All right, there you go, all right, y'all, So don't go anywhere. Will we come back. We have another person with whom I have a tremendous amount of respect for. I can't wait to talk to this gentleman, mister Saul Benefit. We'll be right back after this. Thanks, doctor, We really appreciate you. Came at the amazing work. Thank you so much. All Right, we'll be right back, y'all. Pe luck up, dun up, knock up, luck up, stuck up, slucked up, sucked up, sluck up, suck up, stuck up, duck up, duck up, ducked up nuck