The Birthing Room Ep. 11 | Pastor Tiffany Sowah: Birthing Purpose Through the Fire
The Birthing RoomJanuary 31, 2025

The Birthing Room Ep. 11 | Pastor Tiffany Sowah: Birthing Purpose Through the Fire

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00:00:01 --> 00:00:04 welcome to the birthing Room everybody

00:00:04 --> 00:00:08 hello it is your host today Dr Lina

00:00:08 --> 00:00:10 Whitehead and I am so glad that you all

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00:00:13 --> 00:00:16 episode number 11 I believe it's episode

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00:00:25 --> 00:00:26 we going all the way into the birthing

00:00:27 --> 00:00:29 room on today as we help you push past

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00:01:12 --> 00:01:15 of your your uh comments okay so let's

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00:01:40 --> 00:01:43 pastor yes I can okay I like to plug the

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00:02:12 --> 00:02:14 y'all all right so welcome welcome to

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00:02:16 --> 00:02:19 here to push you into purpose push you

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00:02:22 --> 00:02:23 you guys know I always start off you

00:02:23 --> 00:02:26 know I'm very transparent if you know me

00:02:26 --> 00:02:28 um I am in a season of being very

00:02:28 --> 00:02:31 intentional and a little

00:02:31 --> 00:02:32 transactional I know people don't want

00:02:32 --> 00:02:35 to say that out loud everyone will say

00:02:35 --> 00:02:37 oh I'm not transactional I'm a giver and

00:02:37 --> 00:02:38 I am but I'm very transactional in the

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00:02:41 --> 00:02:44 purpose for purpose you know and I don't

00:02:44 --> 00:02:45 want to be connected with anybody who's

00:02:45 --> 00:02:47 not doing something that I want to do

00:02:47 --> 00:02:49 going somewhere that I don't want to go

00:02:49 --> 00:02:52 I want some rich friends in this hour

00:02:52 --> 00:02:56 Pastor I the women who are talking Rich

00:02:56 --> 00:02:58 talk talking about business and success

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00:03:00 --> 00:03:02 so I said to Pastor Tiffany I said

00:03:02 --> 00:03:04 listen would you come on my podcast and

00:03:04 --> 00:03:06 she agreed to come on today and we met

00:03:06 --> 00:03:08 because I prayed on her prayon and we'll

00:03:09 --> 00:03:11 talk about that but I said listen I've

00:03:11 --> 00:03:14 been watching you and I admire you and

00:03:14 --> 00:03:16 your work is fantastic Everything You

00:03:16 --> 00:03:19 Touch This looks amazing it looks good I

00:03:19 --> 00:03:21 mean it is just so elegant and done with

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00:03:23 --> 00:03:26 just be friends I said God ain't say it

00:03:26 --> 00:03:28 I didn't hear no deep prophecy I have no

00:03:28 --> 00:03:31 deep dream y'all I just saw her I admire

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00:03:32 --> 00:03:34 that's it be your friend in the season I

00:03:34 --> 00:03:35 don't even know how long it's going to

00:03:35 --> 00:03:38 last can we just be friends right and we

00:03:38 --> 00:03:41 can be friends yes well thank you she

00:03:41 --> 00:03:42 said we can be see people want you be

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00:03:44 --> 00:03:45 friends and tell people listen I'm

00:03:45 --> 00:03:46 trying to be your friend because you're

00:03:46 --> 00:03:47 a millionaire I'm trying to be your

00:03:47 --> 00:03:49 friend because you save for real I'm

00:03:49 --> 00:03:51 trying to be your friend because you

00:03:51 --> 00:03:52 married and I'm trying to get married

00:03:52 --> 00:03:53 and figure out how to I'm trying to be

00:03:53 --> 00:03:55 your friend because I'm married and you

00:03:55 --> 00:03:57 married I need marri friends go find you

00:03:57 --> 00:04:00 a friend yeah to we gotta find some

00:04:00 --> 00:04:01 friends you have to find connect you

00:04:02 --> 00:04:03 can't do this by yourself you have to be

00:04:03 --> 00:04:06 connected to some people iron sharpens

00:04:06 --> 00:04:08 iron so thank you for coming on today

00:04:08 --> 00:04:10 Pastor Tiffany absolutely thank you for

00:04:11 --> 00:04:14 having me oh so beautiful so I got

00:04:14 --> 00:04:16 questions really quickly we get started

00:04:16 --> 00:04:18 go ahead and introduce yourself tell us

00:04:18 --> 00:04:21 who you are all about you because I

00:04:21 --> 00:04:22 don't know much about you so I'm gonna

00:04:22 --> 00:04:24 learn with everybody else

00:04:24 --> 00:04:28 okay well hello everyone uh my name is

00:04:28 --> 00:04:31 Pastor Tiffany SOA and I am the founder

00:04:31 --> 00:04:34 of the mornings with God Ministry uh we

00:04:34 --> 00:04:39 just celebrated 10 years of ministry uh

00:04:39 --> 00:04:41 yeah 10 years of ministry it started out

00:04:41 --> 00:04:43 as a

00:04:43 --> 00:04:47 bi-weekly uh pre-recorded message of

00:04:47 --> 00:04:49 encouragement for business owners um I

00:04:49 --> 00:04:51 also have a a business background which

00:04:51 --> 00:04:54 I'll get into in a second but it started

00:04:54 --> 00:04:57 out as that just a pre-recorded message

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00:05:00 --> 00:05:03 the years it turned into books and uh I

00:05:03 --> 00:05:07 just started acknowledging mornings with

00:05:07 --> 00:05:10 God as a Ministry probably like a year

00:05:10 --> 00:05:13 or two ago like it had really yes yes

00:05:13 --> 00:05:15 that was something that was like really

00:05:15 --> 00:05:21 hard for me to say I think because I um

00:05:21 --> 00:05:25 just always I always understood the

00:05:25 --> 00:05:29 responsibility of ministry right that um

00:05:29 --> 00:05:30 I've been

00:05:30 --> 00:05:32 you know blessed to be behind the scenes

00:05:32 --> 00:05:34 with other Ministries with other

00:05:34 --> 00:05:37 churches and particularly Church plants

00:05:37 --> 00:05:39 um and then also of course being in

00:05:39 --> 00:05:42 seminary has just given me so much

00:05:42 --> 00:05:45 respect and honor for the establishment

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00:05:48 --> 00:05:50 like we didn't have Community like a

00:05:50 --> 00:05:53 formal Community we had that now but in

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00:06:00 --> 00:06:02 list we didn't have any of those things

00:06:02 --> 00:06:05 everything was really just off of my

00:06:05 --> 00:06:09 personal social media for about seven or

00:06:09 --> 00:06:11 eight of those 10 years so for most of

00:06:11 --> 00:06:14 the years it was just me kind of as an

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00:06:32 --> 00:06:35 such a respect and honor for the process

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00:06:41 --> 00:06:47 people that not be their Pastor per se

00:06:47 --> 00:06:50 but when people are consistently coming

00:06:50 --> 00:06:53 to you and looking to you for wisdom you

00:06:53 --> 00:06:56 are discipling them at the least right

00:06:56 --> 00:06:59 um but you are also shepherding some of

00:06:59 --> 00:07:01 those people as well and there was just

00:07:01 --> 00:07:04 such a I recognized the great

00:07:04 --> 00:07:06 responsibility of that and at the

00:07:06 --> 00:07:09 appointed time God was like no this is

00:07:09 --> 00:07:12 what it's called that you've been doing

00:07:12 --> 00:07:15 um and we just began to you know use

00:07:15 --> 00:07:17 different language around what we were

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00:07:21 --> 00:07:23 January uh you know that's our our

00:07:23 --> 00:07:26 anniversary Falls in January so 10 years

00:07:26 --> 00:07:29 um I've been licensed in Ministry for

00:07:29 --> 00:07:33 for uh probably about five years now um

00:07:33 --> 00:07:36 and have been serving for over 13 years

00:07:36 --> 00:07:39 so it's been a really long um Journey so

00:07:39 --> 00:07:41 far not as long as I hope that it will

00:07:41 --> 00:07:44 be um I I believe that it'll be a

00:07:44 --> 00:07:46 lifelong journey but yeah that that's

00:07:46 --> 00:07:49 what I do ministry wise and um I'm

00:07:49 --> 00:07:52 honored to to lead these people I'm

00:07:52 --> 00:07:54 honored to disciple them I'm honored to

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00:07:56 --> 00:07:59 what God has called and created me to do

00:07:59 --> 00:08:02 I love that see I I knew it was 10 years

00:08:02 --> 00:08:05 and I think it was today right you said

00:08:05 --> 00:08:07 today is

00:08:07 --> 00:08:10 January okay which is 12 is my number so

00:08:10 --> 00:08:12 I'll tell you about that later on but I

00:08:12 --> 00:08:14 was like oh wow that's a I think this

00:08:14 --> 00:08:17 this year is when I started my Ministry

00:08:17 --> 00:08:21 not this year but this month um in

00:08:21 --> 00:08:24 2014 love that so I was like okay so

00:08:24 --> 00:08:27 yeah we were kind of and neck and neck

00:08:27 --> 00:08:28 yeah yeah and just like you so to hear

00:08:28 --> 00:08:30 you say a long time I'm like oh my

00:08:30 --> 00:08:32 goodness that passed so fast I had to

00:08:32 --> 00:08:34 kind of like go back and like count the

00:08:34 --> 00:08:36 the years of how many how long we've

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00:08:38 --> 00:08:40 you but I would have never thought that

00:08:40 --> 00:08:42 because I mean your work is now you say

00:08:42 --> 00:08:44 you have a business background makes

00:08:44 --> 00:08:46 total sense everything is so elegant and

00:08:46 --> 00:08:50 so put together um did you know you were

00:08:50 --> 00:08:51 gonna like okay so we're gonna go back a

00:08:51 --> 00:08:53 little bit but um you said you're

00:08:53 --> 00:08:55 pastoring now did you know that you were

00:08:55 --> 00:08:56 going to be pastoring did you always

00:08:56 --> 00:08:57 know that about yourself that God

00:08:57 --> 00:09:01 revealed that to you earlier no uh no no

00:09:01 --> 00:09:06 um I will be honest and say that I had

00:09:06 --> 00:09:10 explicitly told the Lord more than once

00:09:10 --> 00:09:13 that I did not want to pastor and I

00:09:13 --> 00:09:16 think it's because I again have been

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00:09:24 --> 00:09:27 know the ground up as a a church plant

00:09:27 --> 00:09:32 that um what I saw uh not not because of

00:09:32 --> 00:09:34 my leaders I've been blessed with really

00:09:34 --> 00:09:37 healthy and good leaders and I know that

00:09:37 --> 00:09:39 I'm very fortunate in that um but the

00:09:39 --> 00:09:42 people it's the people it's the people

00:09:43 --> 00:09:46 it's a lot it's a lot and I have now

00:09:46 --> 00:09:48 served in various Ministry contexts

00:09:48 --> 00:09:51 meaning like I've done the urban inner

00:09:51 --> 00:09:55 city Hood okay like serving in the hood

00:09:55 --> 00:09:59 and then also you know serving in uh

00:09:59 --> 00:10:01 know Ministries that are Suburban you

00:10:02 --> 00:10:04 know everybody is like middle to upper

00:10:04 --> 00:10:06 class and you know it's more like

00:10:06 --> 00:10:09 families and you just don't have the

00:10:09 --> 00:10:12 same set of challenges as you have with

00:10:12 --> 00:10:16 an urban Ministry and um it but in in

00:10:16 --> 00:10:19 both sides you know wherever I found

00:10:19 --> 00:10:23 myself on the Spectrum um I saw the toll

00:10:23 --> 00:10:27 that it took on leaders and I I you know

00:10:27 --> 00:10:29 told the Lord like I love serving being

00:10:29 --> 00:10:32 leaders like I I want to be their

00:10:32 --> 00:10:35 support I want to be you know uh holding

00:10:35 --> 00:10:38 up their their arms I want to help them

00:10:38 --> 00:10:40 with strategy you know I want to do all

00:10:40 --> 00:10:42 of those things right like really

00:10:42 --> 00:10:45 supporting them in the ways that they

00:10:45 --> 00:10:48 needed yes but I didn't want to do it

00:10:48 --> 00:10:51 you know for myself uh but it's almost

00:10:51 --> 00:10:54 comical for me to have said that I

00:10:54 --> 00:10:57 didn't want to be a pastor considering

00:10:57 --> 00:11:01 that there is a rich lineage of church

00:11:01 --> 00:11:03 leadership and Ministry leadership on

00:11:03 --> 00:11:07 both sides of my family grandparents

00:11:07 --> 00:11:10 great grandparents pastoring churches

00:11:10 --> 00:11:11 leading

00:11:11 --> 00:11:14 Ministries sering in ministries we got

00:11:14 --> 00:11:17 deacons and trustees and Deacon and

00:11:17 --> 00:11:20 Minister and you know just the it really

00:11:20 --> 00:11:22 just runs the gamut um when I look at

00:11:22 --> 00:11:25 those who have come before me in my

00:11:25 --> 00:11:28 family on both sides uh it's in me it it

00:11:28 --> 00:11:29 really is it's in me

00:11:29 --> 00:11:33 um so I'm not surprised by it but I I I

00:11:33 --> 00:11:35 didn't go looking for this at all so

00:11:35 --> 00:11:37 let's go there okay so I'm glad you said

00:11:37 --> 00:11:40 that so just to give some background so

00:11:40 --> 00:11:41 um because I want to ask my next

00:11:41 --> 00:11:43 question I'm like okay so this is the

00:11:43 --> 00:11:45 birthing room and we all talk we always

00:11:45 --> 00:11:48 talk about how we birth into our season

00:11:48 --> 00:11:51 like you know how do we get here when

00:11:51 --> 00:11:53 did you hear the call so you came from a

00:11:53 --> 00:11:56 family that was so you grew up in church

00:11:56 --> 00:11:58 you knew who the Lord was you went to

00:11:58 --> 00:11:59 church probably all your life probably

00:11:59 --> 00:12:01 you know um so give us something about

00:12:01 --> 00:12:03 the journey

00:12:03 --> 00:12:07 here yes so um I did I've gone to church

00:12:07 --> 00:12:11 um I would say for most of my life um I

00:12:11 --> 00:12:13 think that obviously the older that I've

00:12:13 --> 00:12:16 gotten or as I got older I was able to

00:12:16 --> 00:12:18 make my own decisions about what

00:12:18 --> 00:12:21 relationship with Christ would look like

00:12:21 --> 00:12:23 um and when I was younger of course I

00:12:23 --> 00:12:24 was just going because it was the

00:12:24 --> 00:12:27 requirement of our home um and for the

00:12:27 --> 00:12:30 most part I will say like 90% of my life

00:12:30 --> 00:12:31 I don't want to make it seem like you

00:12:31 --> 00:12:34 know I was in church every single Sunday

00:12:34 --> 00:12:37 but the majority of my life right my

00:12:37 --> 00:12:40 family has been a churchgoing family and

00:12:40 --> 00:12:43 again I think it comes from those older

00:12:43 --> 00:12:45 family members as they evolved and

00:12:45 --> 00:12:48 matured and excelled in Ministry it was

00:12:48 --> 00:12:49 kind of like you know the family would

00:12:49 --> 00:12:51 come along uh and it's just like you

00:12:51 --> 00:12:53 know what's been passed down through the

00:12:53 --> 00:12:55 years and I'm blessed to have that type

00:12:55 --> 00:12:59 of generational blessing so um good yeah

00:12:59 --> 00:13:02 it is it's it's really a blessing really

00:13:02 --> 00:13:04 always you know kind of went to church

00:13:04 --> 00:13:05 um I gave my life to Christ at the age

00:13:05 --> 00:13:08 of nine of my own doing um I was at

00:13:08 --> 00:13:12 Vacation Bible School in uh Louisville

00:13:12 --> 00:13:15 Kentucky at Forest Tabernacle uh Baptist

00:13:15 --> 00:13:16 I think it's a Baptist Church Forest

00:13:16 --> 00:13:18 Tabernacle Baptist Church in Louisville

00:13:18 --> 00:13:23 Kentucky and um I remember that the the

00:13:23 --> 00:13:25 teachers or the leaders of the vacation

00:13:25 --> 00:13:27 bible school they were talking about

00:13:27 --> 00:13:30 this man named Jesus and whatever it was

00:13:30 --> 00:13:33 that they were saying I wanted to know

00:13:33 --> 00:13:35 this person you know that this Jesus

00:13:35 --> 00:13:37 that they were talking about and when

00:13:37 --> 00:13:40 the opportunity was extended I said yes

00:13:40 --> 00:13:43 um I think they told my stepmom first

00:13:43 --> 00:13:45 and then she told my dad and we talked

00:13:45 --> 00:13:47 about it and like my mom and you know

00:13:47 --> 00:13:49 all of those things but yeah I made the

00:13:49 --> 00:13:51 decision on my own in vacation bible

00:13:52 --> 00:13:55 school and um from there I would say

00:13:55 --> 00:13:58 that life got a little bit tricky so uh

00:13:58 --> 00:14:01 you know my parents uh got divorced when

00:14:01 --> 00:14:05 I was 9 years old um and my mom and my

00:14:06 --> 00:14:08 brother and I moved from Louisville

00:14:08 --> 00:14:10 Kentucky to Baltimore Maryland two

00:14:10 --> 00:14:14 totally different cities to absolutely

00:14:14 --> 00:14:16 oh two totally different places and it

00:14:16 --> 00:14:18 was a really rough adjustment for me

00:14:18 --> 00:14:20 like a very very rough adjustment I

00:14:20 --> 00:14:23 spent you know my later years of

00:14:23 --> 00:14:25 elementary school and all of Middle

00:14:25 --> 00:14:29 School um getting suspended fighting

00:14:29 --> 00:14:32 cussing out teachers um just being

00:14:32 --> 00:14:35 disrespectful being disobedient all of

00:14:35 --> 00:14:37 these things and of course now that I'm

00:14:37 --> 00:14:40 older and have you know spiritual

00:14:40 --> 00:14:43 understanding spiritual maturity uh you

00:14:43 --> 00:14:45 know I understand how to view things

00:14:45 --> 00:14:47 through like therapeutic lenses and all

00:14:47 --> 00:14:50 of that I'm like okay you know we're

00:14:50 --> 00:14:52 well resourced now right like we Wen as

00:14:53 --> 00:14:55 well resource when I was n years old now

00:14:56 --> 00:14:57 if a nine-year-old is acting like this

00:14:57 --> 00:14:59 or parents go through divorces is like

00:14:59 --> 00:15:01 oh you put them in therapy and like help

00:15:01 --> 00:15:02 them figure out how to identify their

00:15:02 --> 00:15:06 feelings and all those

00:15:06 --> 00:15:09 things no you gotta beat in this was a

00:15:09 --> 00:15:12 fact okay a whole lot of right or put on

00:15:12 --> 00:15:16 punishment oh I spent two and a half of

00:15:16 --> 00:15:17 my three years of Middle School on

00:15:17 --> 00:15:19 punishment no exaggeration like oh my

00:15:19 --> 00:15:21 whole childhood I was either I was on

00:15:21 --> 00:15:22 punishment or I was in jail or in a

00:15:23 --> 00:15:25 group home yeah one or the other yeah

00:15:25 --> 00:15:28 but it was like in that order yeah yeah

00:15:28 --> 00:15:31 it was um um it it was it was a rough

00:15:31 --> 00:15:33 upbringing and like I said just also

00:15:33 --> 00:15:35 adapting to having to be like a

00:15:35 --> 00:15:38 different person in Baltimore like in in

00:15:38 --> 00:15:41 Louisville I didn't have to be hard I

00:15:41 --> 00:15:43 didn't have to be tough I didn't have to

00:15:43 --> 00:15:45 like really defend myself I didn't deal

00:15:45 --> 00:15:47 with bullies I didn't have any of those

00:15:47 --> 00:15:49 things um but moving to Baltimore there

00:15:49 --> 00:15:52 was a lot of that um in addition to like

00:15:52 --> 00:15:54 I said just navigating moving navigating

00:15:55 --> 00:15:58 divorce and all of those things so um

00:15:58 --> 00:16:00 the the the adolescent years were really

00:16:00 --> 00:16:02 really rough and even into my first

00:16:02 --> 00:16:04 couple of years of high school um was

00:16:04 --> 00:16:08 very rough but around the time that I uh

00:16:08 --> 00:16:10 knew that I was old enough to start

00:16:10 --> 00:16:13 driving and to start working my mom was

00:16:13 --> 00:16:15 very clear she's like if you don't get

00:16:16 --> 00:16:17 it together you won't be doing any of

00:16:17 --> 00:16:19 those things like it's a privilege to

00:16:19 --> 00:16:21 work it's a privilege to drive and for

00:16:21 --> 00:16:23 me that that was like the Catalyst I

00:16:23 --> 00:16:25 knew that I had gathered yourself yes

00:16:25 --> 00:16:27 that I had to get it together

00:16:27 --> 00:16:32 okay I had to get myself together so um

00:16:32 --> 00:16:33 you know I started doing better of

00:16:33 --> 00:16:35 course being a teenager still having my

00:16:35 --> 00:16:38 things but um one of the things that I

00:16:38 --> 00:16:41 will say that was instilled in us or

00:16:41 --> 00:16:44 that I observed in those years is one

00:16:44 --> 00:16:46 that my mother never stopped praying

00:16:46 --> 00:16:48 like we knew when my mother's door was

00:16:48 --> 00:16:51 closed that like she

00:16:51 --> 00:16:53 was you first of all you better not

00:16:53 --> 00:16:55 knock on the door to ask nothing go sit

00:16:55 --> 00:16:57 down find something to do in the house

00:16:57 --> 00:16:59 like can we stop right there stop right

00:16:59 --> 00:17:01 there do you have children uh I don't

00:17:01 --> 00:17:04 have biological children now okay let

00:17:04 --> 00:17:06 let me tell well I'm I'm also blended

00:17:06 --> 00:17:08 family here I do have a biolog some

00:17:08 --> 00:17:10 blended family here and I remember

00:17:10 --> 00:17:12 because you saying that and we don't see

00:17:12 --> 00:17:13 that anymore so I don't want to take a

00:17:13 --> 00:17:15 commercial break real fast y'all your

00:17:15 --> 00:17:16 children should know you have a prayer

00:17:16 --> 00:17:19 time amen we knew we had to get to that

00:17:19 --> 00:17:22 room before Mama closed that door

00:17:22 --> 00:17:23 because once she closed that door you

00:17:23 --> 00:17:24 couldn't go to the skating ring cuz your

00:17:24 --> 00:17:26 friends got to leave you cuz you can't

00:17:26 --> 00:17:27 you better not ask and you don't know

00:17:27 --> 00:17:30 how long this prayer about to take

00:17:30 --> 00:17:33 exactly you know how long unless the

00:17:33 --> 00:17:37 house was on fire you did not disrupt

00:17:37 --> 00:17:40 prayer time nope when my kids see me get

00:17:40 --> 00:17:43 to this door right here they already

00:17:43 --> 00:17:46 know that they may not see me for a

00:17:46 --> 00:17:48 couple hours they run please please

00:17:48 --> 00:17:50 please before you go close that door

00:17:50 --> 00:17:52 yeah I don't have to put no sign up yep

00:17:52 --> 00:17:54 listen they it's a bathroom on the side

00:17:54 --> 00:17:57 of that wall they go in the bathroom to

00:17:57 --> 00:18:00 listen to hear

00:18:00 --> 00:18:02 in prayer well they want see if I'm

00:18:02 --> 00:18:04 talking on the phone or not they they

00:18:04 --> 00:18:07 hear they already know they okay they

00:18:07 --> 00:18:11 thank you you can forget it you and they

00:18:11 --> 00:18:12 like you know I was hungry but I went to

00:18:12 --> 00:18:14 bed because I wasn't sure if the food

00:18:14 --> 00:18:17 was okay well baby listen God you w

00:18:17 --> 00:18:19 gonna die but go ahead I just want to

00:18:19 --> 00:18:21 say that see folk don't have no prayer

00:18:21 --> 00:18:23 time no more so you don't those a good

00:18:23 --> 00:18:27 old days M see you praying um and I'm

00:18:27 --> 00:18:29 really grateful for that of course when

00:18:29 --> 00:18:31 I was younger you know you're impatient

00:18:31 --> 00:18:32 you don't fully understand what's

00:18:32 --> 00:18:34 happening but those are very Vivid

00:18:34 --> 00:18:36 memories that I have of my childhood is

00:18:36 --> 00:18:39 like when that door was closed that that

00:18:39 --> 00:18:42 meant that she was praying and not to be

00:18:42 --> 00:18:44 disturbed um so that's one of the things

00:18:45 --> 00:18:48 that I recall from those years and

00:18:48 --> 00:18:51 excuse me and that she kept us in church

00:18:51 --> 00:18:53 it was those two things like every

00:18:53 --> 00:18:56 Sunday again you know there there were

00:18:56 --> 00:18:58 different periods where maybe we didn't

00:18:58 --> 00:18:59 attend as frequently or whatever the

00:18:59 --> 00:19:03 case was but I vividly remember

00:19:03 --> 00:19:05 basically every Sunday of my life that

00:19:05 --> 00:19:07 we you know went to church and those

00:19:07 --> 00:19:09 things did make a difference and I would

00:19:09 --> 00:19:11 encourage anyone and I do encourage

00:19:11 --> 00:19:14 people especially now leading a Ministry

00:19:14 --> 00:19:16 um I don't have biological children me

00:19:16 --> 00:19:17 me and my husband don't have biological

00:19:17 --> 00:19:20 children um but I have God children and

00:19:20 --> 00:19:23 you know I have been with them literally

00:19:23 --> 00:19:25 from the day that they were born um and

00:19:25 --> 00:19:29 now my oldest she's an adult now but um

00:19:29 --> 00:19:33 I uh what I would say to like this this

00:19:33 --> 00:19:35 generation of people and parents and

00:19:35 --> 00:19:38 what I encourage people to do especially

00:19:38 --> 00:19:41 those who are parents is keep praying

00:19:41 --> 00:19:43 for your children keep talking to them

00:19:43 --> 00:19:47 and again now we are more resourced as

00:19:47 --> 00:19:50 parents than we were you know 20 years

00:19:50 --> 00:19:52 ago when my goddaughter was born or you

00:19:52 --> 00:19:55 know 35 plus years ago when I was a

00:19:55 --> 00:19:57 child and you know when my mom was a

00:19:57 --> 00:19:59 child like we just have more access to

00:19:59 --> 00:20:02 resources now but the the greatest

00:20:02 --> 00:20:04 resource that you can have as a parent

00:20:04 --> 00:20:07 is prayer the greatest resource and the

00:20:07 --> 00:20:09 the the the best thing that you can

00:20:09 --> 00:20:12 expose your children to is not just a

00:20:12 --> 00:20:15 spiritual life but a church life a life

00:20:15 --> 00:20:18 that Fellowship in a spiritual Community

00:20:18 --> 00:20:21 like it it can't it can't be matched so

00:20:21 --> 00:20:24 that's um that was like my you know high

00:20:24 --> 00:20:27 school years um and then I went to

00:20:27 --> 00:20:30 college right um went to college in

00:20:30 --> 00:20:32 Philadelphia lived in Philadelphia for

00:20:32 --> 00:20:37 14 years um and my first real

00:20:37 --> 00:20:40 encounter with relationship with the

00:20:40 --> 00:20:44 Lord was not until about the importance

00:20:44 --> 00:20:46 of relationship right because again I

00:20:46 --> 00:20:49 had been going to church and doing the

00:20:49 --> 00:20:50 things because that's what I had grown

00:20:50 --> 00:20:53 up seeing but my first when I first

00:20:53 --> 00:20:55 understood the importance of

00:20:55 --> 00:20:58 relationship with Jesus was uh when I I

00:20:58 --> 00:21:01 was 22 years old I had just turned 22

00:21:01 --> 00:21:04 years old and I had gotten pregnant out

00:21:04 --> 00:21:09 of wedlock and opted to have an abortion

00:21:09 --> 00:21:13 um and at the time of course I didn't

00:21:13 --> 00:21:18 understand the Grievous nature of that

00:21:18 --> 00:21:20 decision um and didn't understand it

00:21:20 --> 00:21:21 when the second one happened but I'm

00:21:21 --> 00:21:24 gonna get to that in the second so um

00:21:24 --> 00:21:27 this uh you know first one um it left me

00:21:27 --> 00:21:29 and this is you know when we talk about

00:21:29 --> 00:21:32 things that are birthed out of you one

00:21:32 --> 00:21:35 of the that has been birthed from that

00:21:35 --> 00:21:37 is uh an event that the ministry does

00:21:37 --> 00:21:40 called Waring for the womb and it's more

00:21:40 --> 00:21:42 than just an event it's really a

00:21:42 --> 00:21:44 movement um and my grandmother has

00:21:44 --> 00:21:47 prophesied over this movement you know

00:21:47 --> 00:21:49 over this event and calling get a

00:21:49 --> 00:21:51 movement now for at least like the past

00:21:51 --> 00:21:53 year so I'm really excited to see like

00:21:53 --> 00:21:57 where this goes um but the um just the

00:21:57 --> 00:22:00 pain and the emptiness and I don't want

00:22:00 --> 00:22:01 to get into you know too many like

00:22:01 --> 00:22:04 graphic details or anything like that

00:22:04 --> 00:22:07 but it is something that you never ever

00:22:07 --> 00:22:10 ever get over like you don't never you

00:22:10 --> 00:22:13 think you do at the moment yeah but then

00:22:13 --> 00:22:14 later on it's like it's always a thought

00:22:14 --> 00:22:16 like you know what they would be this

00:22:16 --> 00:22:19 old or this would be this yep I've been

00:22:19 --> 00:22:23 there I had one too yeah yeah so um that

00:22:23 --> 00:22:27 was though I think the Catalyst and

00:22:27 --> 00:22:30 again now in my spiritual maturity I

00:22:30 --> 00:22:34 know that it is not necessary for us to

00:22:34 --> 00:22:38 go through these Grievous horrible

00:22:38 --> 00:22:40 things in order to have relationship

00:22:40 --> 00:22:42 with God right you don't have to have

00:22:42 --> 00:22:45 the craziest testimony you don't have to

00:22:45 --> 00:22:48 have the most complex testimony in order

00:22:48 --> 00:22:51 to develop relationship with God my hope

00:22:52 --> 00:22:53 for my children is that they don't

00:22:53 --> 00:22:56 experience half any of it yeah like I

00:22:56 --> 00:22:58 don't want them to experience any of it

00:22:58 --> 00:23:00 I hope that they use my story and you

00:23:00 --> 00:23:02 know the things that I've gone through

00:23:02 --> 00:23:04 so that they don't have to go through it

00:23:04 --> 00:23:06 but that was what the Catalyst was for

00:23:06 --> 00:23:09 me yes and funny enough I ended up at a

00:23:09 --> 00:23:12 church with the name Catalyst right um

00:23:12 --> 00:23:16 and um yeah I a girlfriend invited me to

00:23:16 --> 00:23:19 church um she kept inviting me and she

00:23:19 --> 00:23:20 kept saying she had been going there for

00:23:20 --> 00:23:22 a while and she's like they have a

00:23:22 --> 00:23:24 really great like college Ministry um

00:23:24 --> 00:23:26 our pastor at the time was like really

00:23:26 --> 00:23:28 young and she's like girl like this is

00:23:28 --> 00:23:29 this is a good you know Ministry for us

00:23:29 --> 00:23:33 to be connected to um and sure enough I

00:23:33 --> 00:23:35 went and visited one Sunday uh I told

00:23:36 --> 00:23:38 myself I was gonna shop around I didn't

00:23:38 --> 00:23:40 go to another church for an entire month

00:23:40 --> 00:23:42 and then a month later she invited me

00:23:42 --> 00:23:44 again I went back and that day I joined

00:23:44 --> 00:23:48 and that began that not only began my

00:23:48 --> 00:23:51 developing a relationship with God but

00:23:51 --> 00:23:55 it also soon after began my journey of

00:23:55 --> 00:23:58 serving in Ministry amen so that's where

00:23:58 --> 00:23:59 you

00:23:59 --> 00:24:02 grew and developed at that church okay

00:24:02 --> 00:24:04 yeah yeah yeah is that you met your

00:24:04 --> 00:24:07 husband no it's not it's not we gonna

00:24:07 --> 00:24:09 get there though we gonna get there okay

00:24:09 --> 00:24:11 take your time I'm enjoy a little bit

00:24:11 --> 00:24:13 more so

00:24:13 --> 00:24:17 my I'm listening I joined um at the time

00:24:17 --> 00:24:18 the church was called Catalyst for

00:24:18 --> 00:24:22 change Church um with h Pastor Keon jro

00:24:22 --> 00:24:25 and um I joined there and you know

00:24:25 --> 00:24:27 literally my friends we still laugh

00:24:27 --> 00:24:29 about this to this day every single

00:24:29 --> 00:24:32 Sunday I was at the altar for alter call

00:24:32 --> 00:24:37 every single Sunday like I so much yes I

00:24:37 --> 00:24:40 needed so much healing and so much

00:24:40 --> 00:24:43 deliverance and I didn't know any other

00:24:43 --> 00:24:45 way to get it but to you know lay my

00:24:45 --> 00:24:47 thing lay my burdens on the Altar and

00:24:47 --> 00:24:50 it's interesting because again nothing

00:24:50 --> 00:24:54 is wasted right that now I am a

00:24:54 --> 00:24:58 prophetic intercessor but I built this

00:24:58 --> 00:25:01 at the altar I know what it is to lay

00:25:01 --> 00:25:04 down your F uh your burdens I know what

00:25:04 --> 00:25:07 it is to crucify your flesh I know what

00:25:07 --> 00:25:09 it is to have Holy Spirit convict you

00:25:09 --> 00:25:12 and comfort you and correct you I know

00:25:12 --> 00:25:16 the power of the Altar and what happens

00:25:16 --> 00:25:18 at God's altar when you really come and

00:25:18 --> 00:25:20 surrender yourself and just lay

00:25:20 --> 00:25:23 everything down so yeah we laugh about

00:25:23 --> 00:25:26 it yeah I was at that altar every single

00:25:26 --> 00:25:28 day it didn't matter what was about

00:25:28 --> 00:25:31 every single Sunday I was at that altar

00:25:31 --> 00:25:33 but there was also a lot that was built

00:25:33 --> 00:25:35 there was language that was built there

00:25:35 --> 00:25:38 was a depth to the relationship and a

00:25:38 --> 00:25:40 vulnerability and a transparency that

00:25:40 --> 00:25:43 was built in my relationship with God

00:25:43 --> 00:25:45 for being at the altar a love and an

00:25:45 --> 00:25:48 honor for his Altar and eventually it

00:25:48 --> 00:25:50 got to the point where I didn't want to

00:25:50 --> 00:25:52 keep coming to the altar dirty I didn't

00:25:52 --> 00:25:55 want to keep dragging my mess and all of

00:25:55 --> 00:25:58 my dirtiness and you know I'm not per

00:25:58 --> 00:26:00 none of us are but there were some

00:26:00 --> 00:26:04 things that I could very clearly let go

00:26:04 --> 00:26:06 um and I didn't want to keep coming to

00:26:06 --> 00:26:09 the altar messy like I had I developed

00:26:09 --> 00:26:12 such a reverence for it which was really

00:26:12 --> 00:26:13 you know the

00:26:13 --> 00:26:17 foundation of um Me growing in uh not

00:26:17 --> 00:26:19 just the operational side of ministry

00:26:19 --> 00:26:21 because for the

00:26:21 --> 00:26:26 first of my 13 years I'mma say at least

00:26:26 --> 00:26:28 eight to 10 of them were like on the

00:26:28 --> 00:26:32 operational side and I remember um I had

00:26:32 --> 00:26:35 started serving on the intercessory

00:26:35 --> 00:26:38 prayer Ministry at Catalyst and I was

00:26:38 --> 00:26:40 once again just persistent invite girl

00:26:41 --> 00:26:42 you need to come to prayer you need to

00:26:42 --> 00:26:43 come to prayer now prayer was on

00:26:43 --> 00:26:46 Saturday mornings at 8: am your girl

00:26:46 --> 00:26:49 wasn't getting home until like 2 three

00:26:49 --> 00:26:51 o'clock in the morning from Friday night

00:26:51 --> 00:26:53 that's right am I going to make it to

00:26:53 --> 00:26:57 prayer on Saturday morning right so even

00:26:57 --> 00:26:59 though I was serving in min Min okay I

00:26:59 --> 00:27:02 still I know okay I have one foot in and

00:27:02 --> 00:27:06 one foot out so I um but uh what began

00:27:06 --> 00:27:09 to happen is that serving in Ministry

00:27:09 --> 00:27:12 became a perfecting work for me that um

00:27:12 --> 00:27:14 you know me and me and my best friend we

00:27:14 --> 00:27:16 tell this story all the time you know

00:27:16 --> 00:27:18 and I'm not glorifying this I'm just

00:27:18 --> 00:27:21 telling my story but there would be

00:27:21 --> 00:27:23 times where we had barely gotten any

00:27:23 --> 00:27:26 sleep the night before but we took our

00:27:26 --> 00:27:29 to prayer hung over I should be drunk

00:27:29 --> 00:27:33 prayer like listen a mess mess but we

00:27:33 --> 00:27:37 were in prayer and eventually again

00:27:37 --> 00:27:39 there started to be this shift where it

00:27:39 --> 00:27:41 was like well I don't want to come into

00:27:41 --> 00:27:43 I don't want to come into God's presence

00:27:43 --> 00:27:45 like that so you know I can't drink on

00:27:45 --> 00:27:47 Friday nights I might do it on Thursday

00:27:47 --> 00:27:48 night or Wednesday night or some other

00:27:48 --> 00:27:50 night but I can't do it on Friday night

00:27:50 --> 00:27:53 and then eventually even that began to

00:27:53 --> 00:27:55 change where I'm like I just I don't

00:27:55 --> 00:27:57 have a desire for this or I don't have a

00:27:57 --> 00:27:59 desire for that I don't want to on New

00:27:59 --> 00:28:02 Year's Eve worship in church change my

00:28:02 --> 00:28:03 clothes in the car and then head to the

00:28:03 --> 00:28:05 nightclub I don't want to do that

00:28:05 --> 00:28:07 anymore but I did it for years I I did

00:28:07 --> 00:28:10 it for years serving in Ministry um but

00:28:10 --> 00:28:13 it was the intercessory prayer Ministry

00:28:13 --> 00:28:17 uh where I again um started to develop a

00:28:17 --> 00:28:20 serious reverence and also an

00:28:20 --> 00:28:22 understanding of my spiritual gifts um

00:28:22 --> 00:28:25 knowing that I needed to be sober uh to

00:28:25 --> 00:28:28 really uh make sure that my gifts were

00:28:29 --> 00:28:31 being used to the glory of God and that

00:28:31 --> 00:28:34 it was God and God Alone who was in

00:28:34 --> 00:28:38 charge of those gifts I remember times

00:28:38 --> 00:28:40 where literally me and my girlfriends we

00:28:41 --> 00:28:43 would get together you know be having

00:28:43 --> 00:28:45 our girls night we got all the food all

00:28:45 --> 00:28:47 the beverages somebody would say

00:28:47 --> 00:28:49 something about the Lord next thing you

00:28:49 --> 00:28:51 know the Holy Spirit then caught fire

00:28:51 --> 00:28:54 church we sliding down the wall but

00:28:54 --> 00:28:56 there came a time where it was like okay

00:28:56 --> 00:29:00 we can't we can't do both we we can't do

00:29:00 --> 00:29:04 both like we gota make a decision is

00:29:04 --> 00:29:05 this what our girls nights will be

00:29:05 --> 00:29:08 comprised of or will they be comprised

00:29:08 --> 00:29:10 of this do we want to do it this way or

00:29:10 --> 00:29:13 will we choose to do it um another way

00:29:13 --> 00:29:16 and it was serving in Ministry that

00:29:16 --> 00:29:18 helped me you know to just get better

00:29:18 --> 00:29:21 and to make those the like start to make

00:29:21 --> 00:29:24 a a clear distinction about the way that

00:29:24 --> 00:29:27 I wanted to live my life yeah yeah yeah

00:29:27 --> 00:29:30 y that's good because and that's real

00:29:30 --> 00:29:32 that's real I I um our testimony is so

00:29:32 --> 00:29:35 much alike so now I know I love you so

00:29:35 --> 00:29:38 much um it it's real because it's so

00:29:38 --> 00:29:41 important that somebody has to be

00:29:41 --> 00:29:43 serious about God yeah and one of the

00:29:43 --> 00:29:44 thing the difference with the

00:29:44 --> 00:29:46 intercessors this is why yall probably

00:29:46 --> 00:29:47 why should I bring in prayer warriors

00:29:47 --> 00:29:51 because I know that it's just so it's

00:29:51 --> 00:29:54 almost as if we can't play with God no

00:29:55 --> 00:29:58 it's it's we get such a hunger for the

00:29:58 --> 00:30:00 presence of the

00:30:00 --> 00:30:03 Lord and as a prophet we know that we

00:30:03 --> 00:30:07 cannot enter in to the holies of holy

00:30:07 --> 00:30:08 without Clean Hands and a pure heart

00:30:08 --> 00:30:09 everybody should know that but we

00:30:09 --> 00:30:11 definitely just know we can't see we

00:30:11 --> 00:30:14 can't hear you know and and the

00:30:14 --> 00:30:16 conviction you feel when you know what

00:30:16 --> 00:30:19 it feels like to be in the presence of

00:30:19 --> 00:30:22 the Lord and I can't enter in yep you

00:30:22 --> 00:30:25 mean to tell me I can't get in something

00:30:25 --> 00:30:27 happens when we can't hear yeah it's

00:30:27 --> 00:30:30 like depression I haven't heard I've

00:30:30 --> 00:30:31 been in the presence I ain't feeling I

00:30:31 --> 00:30:34 ain't hearing we go into a depression

00:30:34 --> 00:30:36 like we have to like people say you

00:30:36 --> 00:30:38 don't fast oh we live a faster life

00:30:38 --> 00:30:40 because I need to be able to be in a

00:30:40 --> 00:30:42 place where I can

00:30:42 --> 00:30:44 surrender so I can hear what God has to

00:30:44 --> 00:30:47 say it just lifts us it's like the air

00:30:47 --> 00:30:49 we breathe it's it's it's we it's so we

00:30:49 --> 00:30:52 have to I I tell my husband you know

00:30:52 --> 00:30:53 came from different

00:30:53 --> 00:30:56 backgrounds and we first got married uh

00:30:56 --> 00:30:59 Pastor um uh Tiffany he says to me is

00:30:59 --> 00:31:01 have you do you know anyone else like

00:31:01 --> 00:31:02 you and I know what he was trying to say

00:31:03 --> 00:31:04 cuz I'm always praying he had never seen

00:31:04 --> 00:31:07 nobody he never he never you know seen a

00:31:07 --> 00:31:10 prayer Warrior and or intercessor or a

00:31:10 --> 00:31:12 prophet was quite sure what that meant

00:31:13 --> 00:31:15 or what it looked like he was like um I

00:31:15 --> 00:31:17 mean it's a little radical isn't it I

00:31:18 --> 00:31:22 was like a little bit a little bit why

00:31:22 --> 00:31:23 if I was Muslim I would play five times

00:31:23 --> 00:31:26 a day if I was Jewish I'll play three

00:31:26 --> 00:31:29 times a day said do you think that I

00:31:29 --> 00:31:31 serve the god of God I serve Elohim I'm

00:31:31 --> 00:31:33 not going to go into his

00:31:33 --> 00:31:36 presence you just ain't seen nobody who

00:31:36 --> 00:31:38 was for real who was serious about

00:31:38 --> 00:31:42 chasing after the Lord yeah so I'm

00:31:42 --> 00:31:44 excited okay I had to that because I

00:31:44 --> 00:31:47 want y'all to know we're not strange

00:31:47 --> 00:31:49 yeah no and that's I really love what

00:31:49 --> 00:31:52 you said just about like if we were of

00:31:52 --> 00:31:55 another religion nobody would bet an eye

00:31:55 --> 00:31:58 at it and the crazy thing that I always

00:31:58 --> 00:32:01 tell people is um our faith actually

00:32:01 --> 00:32:04 teaches us to pray without ceasing right

00:32:04 --> 00:32:06 without ceasing that we should be

00:32:06 --> 00:32:09 praying all the time but we there's such

00:32:09 --> 00:32:11 a I don't know if it's because of like a

00:32:11 --> 00:32:14 visibility thing or what it's seems like

00:32:14 --> 00:32:17 there's so much esteem placed on other

00:32:17 --> 00:32:20 religions that pray as much as they do

00:32:20 --> 00:32:22 as if the Bible don't tell us to pray

00:32:22 --> 00:32:25 just as much if not more right even with

00:32:25 --> 00:32:27 the fasting like oh Christians don't

00:32:27 --> 00:32:28 fast

00:32:28 --> 00:32:30 where what Christian because the Bible

00:32:30 --> 00:32:34 that I read it it's a whole chapter

00:32:34 --> 00:32:36 dedicated to True biblical fasting if

00:32:36 --> 00:32:38 you really want to read it right so I I

00:32:38 --> 00:32:40 think that that is you know just really

00:32:40 --> 00:32:43 really powerful um but yeah serving in

00:32:43 --> 00:32:45 Ministry that clean hands and clean

00:32:45 --> 00:32:47 heart piece that that was a really big

00:32:47 --> 00:32:50 thing for me and what happened was as I

00:32:50 --> 00:32:53 was being trained up in intercession I

00:32:53 --> 00:32:55 was being trained in the background but

00:32:55 --> 00:32:58 eventually I was asked to start praying

00:32:58 --> 00:33:01 for people so we used to pray on

00:33:01 --> 00:33:04 Saturdays uh we prayed uh at the church

00:33:04 --> 00:33:07 and then when we moved locations we

00:33:07 --> 00:33:09 started praying at one of the church

00:33:09 --> 00:33:11 mother's houses oh girl yall got some

00:33:11 --> 00:33:15 good prayer in at one of

00:33:15 --> 00:33:18 the yep so that SM like prayer didn't it

00:33:18 --> 00:33:20 it did let me tell you something we

00:33:20 --> 00:33:23 would literally be uh we started off in

00:33:23 --> 00:33:25 her living room but we actually ended up

00:33:25 --> 00:33:27 outgrowing her living room in terms of

00:33:27 --> 00:33:30 the te so we had to move to the basement

00:33:30 --> 00:33:32 had to pray in the the the church

00:33:32 --> 00:33:36 mother's basement okay and um it was

00:33:36 --> 00:33:38 there so that was the training ground

00:33:38 --> 00:33:40 right we're being trained I'm listening

00:33:40 --> 00:33:42 I'm learning we're being taught we're

00:33:42 --> 00:33:44 being given assignments all of these

00:33:44 --> 00:33:47 things and then on you know Sundays

00:33:47 --> 00:33:50 you're being asked to like pray for the

00:33:50 --> 00:33:52 people you know publicly right what

00:33:52 --> 00:33:53 you've been doing privately you're going

00:33:53 --> 00:33:56 to do publicly and it was at that point

00:33:56 --> 00:33:58 I was like I don't want to bleed on

00:33:58 --> 00:34:00 God's people I don't want no transfering

00:34:01 --> 00:34:03 of spirits I don't want to bleed on his

00:34:03 --> 00:34:05 people I don't want to touch his people

00:34:05 --> 00:34:08 with dirty hands like not literally but

00:34:08 --> 00:34:10 spiritually and like you said that clean

00:34:10 --> 00:34:13 hand and clean clean hands and a clean

00:34:13 --> 00:34:16 heart um and again it was just even more

00:34:16 --> 00:34:19 of a a catalyst to just change and do

00:34:19 --> 00:34:21 better and I'll never forget one of the

00:34:21 --> 00:34:23 days we was leaving uh mother Twan was

00:34:23 --> 00:34:25 her name she's uh passed away since but

00:34:25 --> 00:34:28 mother Twan I remember one of the days

00:34:28 --> 00:34:31 uh we were leaving and the leader of our

00:34:31 --> 00:34:33 intercessory prayer Ministry me and my

00:34:33 --> 00:34:35 best friend we waled out right if we had

00:34:35 --> 00:34:37 been out the night before so we walking

00:34:37 --> 00:34:41 out and she stops us and she said uh the

00:34:41 --> 00:34:44 Lord sees what you're doing my God I

00:34:44 --> 00:34:46 literally like push I said go go go go

00:34:46 --> 00:34:48 go go go go go go go get up out of here

00:34:48 --> 00:34:52 CA she sees us she figured us out like

00:34:52 --> 00:34:54 and again that was another Catalyst

00:34:54 --> 00:34:56 where I was like I don't want that I

00:34:56 --> 00:34:57 don't want to I don't want to be worried

00:34:57 --> 00:34:59 about if alcohol is seeping out of my

00:34:59 --> 00:35:02 pores while I'm praying for people and

00:35:02 --> 00:35:04 just all of the things like these these

00:35:04 --> 00:35:07 little nuances that are actually very

00:35:07 --> 00:35:10 big things and very important things um

00:35:10 --> 00:35:13 they just began to change and all of

00:35:13 --> 00:35:15 that happen in that birthing room right

00:35:15 --> 00:35:17 like that's what we're talking about was

00:35:17 --> 00:35:20 literally a birthing room uh called

00:35:20 --> 00:35:22 mother twine's basement where we were

00:35:22 --> 00:35:25 being cultivated and nurtured and

00:35:25 --> 00:35:28 convicted and corrected and

00:35:28 --> 00:35:31 and of our flesh and you know just all

00:35:31 --> 00:35:34 of those things yeah but that's that's

00:35:34 --> 00:35:37 what was happening there so um that

00:35:37 --> 00:35:39 introduced me to intercession I I fell

00:35:39 --> 00:35:42 in love with it I love seeing people

00:35:42 --> 00:35:46 healed delivered and set free I love uh

00:35:46 --> 00:35:48 being a vessel for God to give answers

00:35:48 --> 00:35:51 to prayers to speak prophetically like I

00:35:51 --> 00:35:54 love those things and I just have such a

00:35:54 --> 00:35:56 high esteem and a high honor for it um

00:35:56 --> 00:35:59 and and respect respect you know that

00:35:59 --> 00:36:03 responsibility so yeah that was um that

00:36:03 --> 00:36:06 was the introduction to to Ministry and

00:36:06 --> 00:36:09 and really serving and as I continued to

00:36:09 --> 00:36:12 serve more was developed and I'm G tell

00:36:12 --> 00:36:13 you we gonna be the mothers we gonna

00:36:13 --> 00:36:14 bring the mothers back I mean we're

00:36:14 --> 00:36:16 young now yes probably about 10 years

00:36:17 --> 00:36:18 older than you but I'm gonna be that

00:36:18 --> 00:36:21 mother in church that when the kids walk

00:36:21 --> 00:36:22 in I'm like I see

00:36:22 --> 00:36:25 you mama always could see couldn't the

00:36:25 --> 00:36:27 mothers always see they always could can

00:36:27 --> 00:36:28 tell you when you was pregnant you

00:36:28 --> 00:36:31 pregnant I know you pregnant a nobody I

00:36:31 --> 00:36:33 don't even know yet what

00:36:33 --> 00:36:36 you I don't even know how you know the

00:36:36 --> 00:36:38 mothers could see they have any problem

00:36:38 --> 00:36:41 letting you know I know you're dirty get

00:36:42 --> 00:36:44 to the altar get to the alar you know

00:36:44 --> 00:36:46 and no problem come pull your coil we

00:36:46 --> 00:36:48 don't have it anymore you know we don't

00:36:48 --> 00:36:49 have that

00:36:49 --> 00:36:52 authentic just uh H uh reverence for the

00:36:52 --> 00:36:54 Lord not saying we I'm not saying we

00:36:54 --> 00:36:56 because I think I think there are some

00:36:56 --> 00:36:59 people every body has not bowed to bail

00:36:59 --> 00:37:00 I know y'all all ain't bowed down

00:37:00 --> 00:37:03 somebody is serious about God but I'm

00:37:03 --> 00:37:05 saying the body needs to get back in

00:37:05 --> 00:37:08 please yeah yeah yeah definitely for

00:37:08 --> 00:37:10 sure for sure so yeah it's been it's

00:37:10 --> 00:37:14 been a beautiful Journey um in the midst

00:37:14 --> 00:37:16 of all of that is when mornings with God

00:37:16 --> 00:37:19 was started um like I said I would go on

00:37:19 --> 00:37:22 to just experience so many other things

00:37:22 --> 00:37:26 um in my journey and when I see like

00:37:26 --> 00:37:29 particularly for the like the Waring for

00:37:29 --> 00:37:31 the womb event and then events like the

00:37:31 --> 00:37:34 prayer th when I see what those have

00:37:34 --> 00:37:39 become I'm like it was worth it it was

00:37:39 --> 00:37:43 worth it to be Cru to Crucify My Flesh

00:37:43 --> 00:37:46 yes worth it to be convicted and

00:37:47 --> 00:37:49 corrected it was worth it to Lose

00:37:49 --> 00:37:53 Friends it was worth it to you know uh

00:37:53 --> 00:37:55 just just everything that comes with the

00:37:55 --> 00:37:59 journey the that the cost it cost a lot

00:37:59 --> 00:38:02 yes cost too much it cost a lot but it

00:38:02 --> 00:38:05 did not cost too much in every single

00:38:05 --> 00:38:09 cost it was definitely um worth it it it

00:38:09 --> 00:38:10 was definitely worth it so yeah this is

00:38:11 --> 00:38:13 where mornings with God is now and you

00:38:13 --> 00:38:16 know we're we're moving forward

00:38:16 --> 00:38:19 and the Lord is telling us to do and all

00:38:19 --> 00:38:22 of those things amen and I just want to

00:38:22 --> 00:38:23 go ahead because you know if you ever

00:38:23 --> 00:38:25 watch my podcast I always do little

00:38:25 --> 00:38:27 intermissions for the cheap seats I want

00:38:27 --> 00:38:29 y'all to know she said it's going to

00:38:29 --> 00:38:33 cost you something meaning that some of

00:38:33 --> 00:38:36 us all of us paid something yeah but

00:38:36 --> 00:38:37 some of us gave

00:38:37 --> 00:38:41 everything it's gonna cost you something

00:38:41 --> 00:38:43 Catherine kman said it she said it's

00:38:43 --> 00:38:46 gonna cost you everything all of us gave

00:38:46 --> 00:38:49 something but some of us gave everything

00:38:49 --> 00:38:51 yeah it's gonna cost you you gotta just

00:38:51 --> 00:38:54 decide how much you want to give yeah

00:38:54 --> 00:38:58 there is a CA for the oil the anointing

00:38:58 --> 00:39:00 is I mean I'm sorry the uh the Salvation

00:39:00 --> 00:39:03 is free yeah but the anointing is sold

00:39:03 --> 00:39:05 separately yeah yeah it's cost you

00:39:05 --> 00:39:07 something you gotta wrestle for this

00:39:07 --> 00:39:09 yeah you gotta wrestle you gotta birth

00:39:09 --> 00:39:12 it in prayer amen amen amen I'm excited

00:39:12 --> 00:39:15 that's excited all right that's good and

00:39:15 --> 00:39:17 and I want y'all and I know that I

00:39:18 --> 00:39:19 mentioned earlier how excellent your

00:39:19 --> 00:39:20 work

00:39:20 --> 00:39:24 is and one thing again you know I also

00:39:24 --> 00:39:27 have similar Ministry and watch people

00:39:27 --> 00:39:29 and they asked us you know how can you

00:39:30 --> 00:39:32 stand so long or how do you keep going

00:39:32 --> 00:39:34 or you just so crazy you just you just

00:39:34 --> 00:39:36 my sister always say you just be moving

00:39:36 --> 00:39:39 like you know you say something you just

00:39:39 --> 00:39:41 do it and I said because whatever you

00:39:41 --> 00:39:44 birth in prayer yeah it's going to stand

00:39:44 --> 00:39:47 it's going to last the test of time it's

00:39:47 --> 00:39:49 GNA last the storms it was good that we

00:39:49 --> 00:39:51 were Afflicted yeah because can't

00:39:52 --> 00:39:54 nothing stop me because once God said it

00:39:54 --> 00:39:55 I don't need no validation no

00:39:55 --> 00:39:58 confirmation once Lord says that I'm

00:39:58 --> 00:40:00 going forth because he goes before me

00:40:00 --> 00:40:03 and whatever you want to do or God has

00:40:03 --> 00:40:06 called you to do you have to birth it in

00:40:06 --> 00:40:08 prayer if you want it to last yeah yeah

00:40:08 --> 00:40:11 for sure and that stamina that's built

00:40:11 --> 00:40:14 up in prayer um it it comes through

00:40:14 --> 00:40:17 practice though right uh and uh my

00:40:17 --> 00:40:19 current Pastor one of my current pastors

00:40:19 --> 00:40:23 um Dr Faith wakoma she always says like

00:40:23 --> 00:40:24 you've got to build it up like you've

00:40:24 --> 00:40:27 got to build up your stamina um in

00:40:28 --> 00:40:29 prayer you've got to build up your

00:40:29 --> 00:40:31 stamina and speaking in tongues and the

00:40:31 --> 00:40:34 way that you do it is literally by

00:40:34 --> 00:40:37 practice right like so in your personal

00:40:37 --> 00:40:40 prayer time you practice praying not

00:40:40 --> 00:40:43 praying to be seen you're praying and

00:40:43 --> 00:40:46 you're doing this for an audience of one

00:40:46 --> 00:40:48 uh but you practice praying speak in

00:40:48 --> 00:40:51 tongues push yourself to do it longer

00:40:51 --> 00:40:53 push yourself to really tap in push

00:40:54 --> 00:40:56 yourself to really surrender and to let

00:40:56 --> 00:40:59 go of the thinking connected to it and

00:40:59 --> 00:41:01 if you really allow the spirit to take

00:41:01 --> 00:41:04 over those tongues will begin to roll

00:41:04 --> 00:41:06 out like it just it just rolls off of

00:41:07 --> 00:41:10 you right you you you find yourself

00:41:10 --> 00:41:12 being able to pray in tongues for an

00:41:12 --> 00:41:14 extended period of time and the other

00:41:14 --> 00:41:16 thing that I always tell people will

00:41:16 --> 00:41:18 help them to build up that stamina and

00:41:18 --> 00:41:21 help them to have language in prayer is

00:41:22 --> 00:41:25 studying your Bible like you've got to

00:41:25 --> 00:41:27 read the word of the Lord the reason why

00:41:27 --> 00:41:28 you ain't got nothing to say is because

00:41:28 --> 00:41:31 you're not reading word you don't have

00:41:31 --> 00:41:34 the word and that if that's what we are

00:41:34 --> 00:41:36 to be praying back to the Lord how do

00:41:36 --> 00:41:39 you expect to pray God's very word back

00:41:39 --> 00:41:42 to him if you're not studying it so

00:41:42 --> 00:41:44 again when we talk about like birthing

00:41:44 --> 00:41:47 things and being in the birthing room in

00:41:47 --> 00:41:49 the birthing room you also got to study

00:41:49 --> 00:41:51 in the birthing room my God you've got

00:41:51 --> 00:41:54 to sit at the feet of your father you

00:41:54 --> 00:41:56 got to come like a student with your

00:41:56 --> 00:41:59 notebook and with your yes your Bible

00:41:59 --> 00:42:01 open and you're ready to take note of

00:42:01 --> 00:42:03 what the Lord is speaking to you and

00:42:03 --> 00:42:05 you're going to where he guide you in

00:42:06 --> 00:42:08 his word even with us doing uh we're

00:42:08 --> 00:42:10 doing a year-long prayer movement it

00:42:10 --> 00:42:12 ends on January 31st but we've been

00:42:12 --> 00:42:15 doing this year-long um prayer movement

00:42:15 --> 00:42:17 and literally the very first thing that

00:42:17 --> 00:42:20 I asked the Lord I said Lord what am I

00:42:20 --> 00:42:23 gonna pray about every day for 365 days

00:42:23 --> 00:42:25 God said read your word when I tell you

00:42:25 --> 00:42:29 I we got more topics more topics than we

00:42:29 --> 00:42:32 have time to pray for I mean l we got

00:42:32 --> 00:42:34 prayer requests upon prayer requests

00:42:34 --> 00:42:35 I've been asking the Lord because we

00:42:35 --> 00:42:38 finish up in like two weeks so I've been

00:42:38 --> 00:42:40 asking the Lord I'm like we need to make

00:42:40 --> 00:42:42 sure we touch all these topics in the

00:42:42 --> 00:42:43 next two weeks because like there's

00:42:44 --> 00:42:46 still so much that we still have to

00:42:46 --> 00:42:49 cover but you can do things like that to

00:42:49 --> 00:42:50 the point about like what your sister

00:42:50 --> 00:42:53 was saying like well how do you just do

00:42:53 --> 00:42:55 it and how do you sustain it and how do

00:42:55 --> 00:42:57 you have the stamina for it you keep

00:42:57 --> 00:43:01 reading this word never run out of

00:43:01 --> 00:43:03 things to pray about or talk to the Lord

00:43:03 --> 00:43:06 about never ever never ever and that's

00:43:06 --> 00:43:08 so good I don't even gonna stop you go

00:43:08 --> 00:43:11 ahead I yeah yeah no I just wanted to

00:43:11 --> 00:43:13 share um that piece and another thing

00:43:13 --> 00:43:15 that I thought about that was very

00:43:15 --> 00:43:17 interesting that you said a few minutes

00:43:17 --> 00:43:21 ago was about the depression piece right

00:43:21 --> 00:43:24 yeah can't hear the word of the Lord

00:43:24 --> 00:43:27 that does something that that does

00:43:28 --> 00:43:31 something that it really becomes a very

00:43:31 --> 00:43:35 deep struggle I remember in 2023 into

00:43:35 --> 00:43:39 2024 but like primarily the end of

00:43:39 --> 00:43:43 2023 uh that things in my life were

00:43:43 --> 00:43:46 beginning to unravel for them for God to

00:43:46 --> 00:43:49 weave a new tapestry right um but in the

00:43:49 --> 00:43:51 moment it felt like I was losing

00:43:51 --> 00:43:55 everything um I was in the process of uh

00:43:55 --> 00:43:58 relocating from North Carolina to

00:43:58 --> 00:44:01 Maryland so that I could ultimately move

00:44:01 --> 00:44:06 to Ghana in West Africa uh yeah yeah

00:44:06 --> 00:44:08 that's where I live that's really where

00:44:08 --> 00:44:11 I live I'm just in the state I you know

00:44:11 --> 00:44:14 I stalked your page yes oh you I didn't

00:44:14 --> 00:44:16 we gonna be fighted I didn't know you

00:44:16 --> 00:44:20 that labor amongst you

00:44:20 --> 00:44:23 yes so literally um I was in that

00:44:23 --> 00:44:25 process but God had expedited it now

00:44:25 --> 00:44:27 again I'm a business owner I'm a

00:44:27 --> 00:44:29 strategies right so I had a plan I had a

00:44:29 --> 00:44:31 timeline I was like we going to do this

00:44:31 --> 00:44:32 at this time we going to do that we

00:44:32 --> 00:44:33 going to do this and this is how it's

00:44:33 --> 00:44:35 all going to flow it's going to be easy

00:44:35 --> 00:44:38 breezy God said nope I'm Expediting this

00:44:38 --> 00:44:40 we just gonna go ahead and cut that out

00:44:40 --> 00:44:42 this is being moved up about six seven

00:44:42 --> 00:44:45 months um and it was a really really

00:44:45 --> 00:44:49 rough time for me spiritually because I

00:44:49 --> 00:44:53 felt like I I was grasping at straws

00:44:53 --> 00:44:55 like grasping to just hold on to

00:44:55 --> 00:44:59 anything and also Al I couldn't see like

00:44:59 --> 00:45:01 what the Lord was doing and what I mean

00:45:01 --> 00:45:05 by that is typically for for the most

00:45:05 --> 00:45:10 part when God is moving in my life I can

00:45:10 --> 00:45:13 see that like it will eventually lead to

00:45:13 --> 00:45:15 something else right I may not see what

00:45:15 --> 00:45:17 that what is but I'm like okay if I take

00:45:17 --> 00:45:19 this step it can lead to like that that

00:45:19 --> 00:45:21 that or that right like I can identify

00:45:21 --> 00:45:23 that it can go one of a few ways but in

00:45:23 --> 00:45:25 this whole situation I was like God I

00:45:25 --> 00:45:27 don't even see you in this I like I

00:45:27 --> 00:45:29 don't even know where you are I feel

00:45:29 --> 00:45:31 like I am under attack I feel like I am

00:45:31 --> 00:45:33 being punished and literally I was going

00:45:33 --> 00:45:35 back I had to dissect this like in

00:45:35 --> 00:45:37 therapy and like with my spiritual

00:45:37 --> 00:45:38 Direction counselor because this was a

00:45:39 --> 00:45:40 very very deep thing oh I like that

00:45:40 --> 00:45:42 spiritual Direction counselor yeah yeah

00:45:42 --> 00:45:45 we get one as a a part of Seminary our

00:45:45 --> 00:45:48 Seminary uh provides us with one with

00:45:48 --> 00:45:50 regularly um so yes so I'm you know

00:45:50 --> 00:45:52 meeting with her and I'm like talking to

00:45:52 --> 00:45:55 my wise counsel and all of those things

00:45:55 --> 00:45:58 and I was literally going back like six

00:45:58 --> 00:46:01 months n months 12 months like did I do

00:46:01 --> 00:46:04 something wrong did I sin and like like

00:46:04 --> 00:46:06 a big sin I'm not talking about like a

00:46:06 --> 00:46:09 little you know something but like a big

00:46:09 --> 00:46:11 am I and that's what we think what am I

00:46:11 --> 00:46:15 reaping yep yes I said I got to be

00:46:15 --> 00:46:17 reaping something I got to have done

00:46:17 --> 00:46:19 something wrong to deserve this because

00:46:19 --> 00:46:22 it almost felt like it came out of

00:46:22 --> 00:46:25 nowhere but the hardest part the the two

00:46:25 --> 00:46:27 hardest things of that season

00:46:27 --> 00:46:30 um and I'm not saying this to sound

00:46:30 --> 00:46:33 churchy I mean it because I really

00:46:33 --> 00:46:36 experienced it and it also helped me to

00:46:36 --> 00:46:39 check every time that I thought that I

00:46:39 --> 00:46:42 was in a Wilderness season no no no I

00:46:42 --> 00:46:44 wasn't I I don't know what those seasons

00:46:44 --> 00:46:46 were before this thing that me and my

00:46:46 --> 00:46:50 husband just came out of oh oh I said oh

00:46:51 --> 00:46:54 this this is Wilderness a Mana season I

00:46:54 --> 00:46:56 had never experienced a Mana season

00:46:56 --> 00:46:58 before for ever in my life like

00:46:58 --> 00:47:02 literally only enough for the day only

00:47:02 --> 00:47:05 enough for the like Lord you you can't

00:47:05 --> 00:47:08 be serious you cannot be serious that I

00:47:08 --> 00:47:11 go from being a business owner a multi6

00:47:11 --> 00:47:15 fig business to like no income no like

00:47:15 --> 00:47:20 Zip zero zil and G did I do did I must

00:47:20 --> 00:47:22 have did something wrong did I mess up

00:47:23 --> 00:47:24 but was I don't think that I was putting

00:47:24 --> 00:47:27 anything before you like like what was

00:47:27 --> 00:47:29 going on what what was I doing wrong and

00:47:29 --> 00:47:31 it literally felt like a punishment but

00:47:31 --> 00:47:33 the two hardest things and me and my

00:47:33 --> 00:47:35 husband we have been standing on this

00:47:35 --> 00:47:37 the two hardest things of that Mana

00:47:37 --> 00:47:40 season and Wilderness season was one not

00:47:41 --> 00:47:43 being able to hear the voice of the Lord

00:47:43 --> 00:47:46 that that was a really really that was

00:47:46 --> 00:47:49 very very hard for me um it left me

00:47:49 --> 00:47:52 feeling forsaken I said to God and I I

00:47:52 --> 00:47:54 want to be very clear this was only a

00:47:54 --> 00:47:57 year and a half ago in Ministry I was I

00:47:57 --> 00:48:00 I was well into the ministry Journey

00:48:00 --> 00:48:04 right I I remember I I told the Lord

00:48:04 --> 00:48:07 more than once I feel like you're not

00:48:07 --> 00:48:10 listening I feel like you are letting

00:48:10 --> 00:48:13 things happen to us I feel like you are

00:48:13 --> 00:48:16 allowing people to do us dirty and to

00:48:16 --> 00:48:18 get away with it I said those three

00:48:18 --> 00:48:22 things to God so many times from middle

00:48:22 --> 00:48:27 of 2023 to the middle of 2024 so so many

00:48:27 --> 00:48:30 times I said this to the Lord where are

00:48:30 --> 00:48:32 you what are you doing I was literally

00:48:32 --> 00:48:34 having to call my wise counsel and be

00:48:34 --> 00:48:36 like I I I remember I would call them

00:48:36 --> 00:48:40 and say I can't think I'm not asking you

00:48:40 --> 00:48:42 to help I'm not asking you to send no

00:48:42 --> 00:48:45 resch I I need you to help me think I

00:48:45 --> 00:48:48 need you to pray like I can't I I feel

00:48:48 --> 00:48:51 like I'm I'm DEA to the voice of God

00:48:51 --> 00:48:54 like that was yes yes that was such a

00:48:54 --> 00:48:57 horrible place to be in that was so

00:48:57 --> 00:48:59 horrible um so I wanted to share that

00:48:59 --> 00:49:00 story because when you said that piece

00:49:00 --> 00:49:03 about being depressed when I um one of

00:49:03 --> 00:49:05 the sessions that I had with my

00:49:05 --> 00:49:07 spiritual Direction counselor in uh

00:49:07 --> 00:49:10 early 2024 I was like catching her up on

00:49:10 --> 00:49:11 things that had happened over like the

00:49:11 --> 00:49:13 series of a couple months and as I'm

00:49:13 --> 00:49:17 list listing everything out I said wait

00:49:17 --> 00:49:19 I think I was depressed and she looked

00:49:19 --> 00:49:22 at me and she was like yeah yeah I was

00:49:22 --> 00:49:25 like I oh like I didn't even realize it

00:49:25 --> 00:49:27 in the middle of it but after the fact

00:49:27 --> 00:49:29 and I'm listing the things that were

00:49:29 --> 00:49:31 happening and the symptoms that are

00:49:31 --> 00:49:33 happening you know in my body and in my

00:49:33 --> 00:49:36 life and I'm like that sound like you

00:49:36 --> 00:49:39 was depressed yeah for sure for sure I

00:49:39 --> 00:49:43 could of God a prophet can't hears when

00:49:43 --> 00:49:46 a prophet can't hears we get depressed

00:49:47 --> 00:49:49 yeah yeah we when we when we feel when

00:49:49 --> 00:49:52 we feel uh uh uh rejected yeah or we

00:49:52 --> 00:49:56 feel deaf yeah we get depressed yeah

00:49:56 --> 00:49:57 Jesus Took elah up to the mountain he

00:49:57 --> 00:50:00 said do you hear yeah you listening for

00:50:00 --> 00:50:02 the wrong thing listen to my small still

00:50:02 --> 00:50:04 that's what you got to hold on to and

00:50:04 --> 00:50:06 I'm like Lord I don't hear nothing I

00:50:06 --> 00:50:07 don't hear no wind I don't hear nothing

00:50:07 --> 00:50:09 I need you to I I need you to be louder

00:50:09 --> 00:50:12 yeah I need you speak say something say

00:50:12 --> 00:50:15 something and it is and I and when we

00:50:15 --> 00:50:17 talk about that you know prophetic you

00:50:17 --> 00:50:19 know struggle with that but it is

00:50:19 --> 00:50:21 something we I have to hear the voice of

00:50:21 --> 00:50:25 the Lord is not is man like I have to I

00:50:25 --> 00:50:27 tell my husband I don't have a Choice

00:50:27 --> 00:50:29 like I need to he do you have to I mean

00:50:29 --> 00:50:33 every day babe yes do every day do you

00:50:33 --> 00:50:35 want to talk to me every day you talk to

00:50:35 --> 00:50:38 me every day don't you okay I go talk to

00:50:38 --> 00:50:40 I talk my father every day every every

00:50:40 --> 00:50:43 day I need I need fresh food every day

00:50:43 --> 00:50:45 fresh me every you want to eat today

00:50:45 --> 00:50:47 honey you know but that was just you

00:50:47 --> 00:50:49 know the conversation just just trying

00:50:49 --> 00:50:50 to

00:50:51 --> 00:50:53 explain explain why it's important for

00:50:53 --> 00:50:56 us to labor in prayer yeah yeah another

00:50:56 --> 00:50:58 thing too you know we got to labor in

00:50:58 --> 00:50:59 prayer like oh you it don't take all

00:51:00 --> 00:51:01 that you ain't got to be there for a

00:51:01 --> 00:51:03 whole hour oh listen I wasn't even long

00:51:03 --> 00:51:05 enough I came out early you know but we

00:51:05 --> 00:51:07 have to be able to labor just so we can

00:51:07 --> 00:51:09 wait and we can wait on the Lord to hear

00:51:09 --> 00:51:11 what he is saying and not just for us

00:51:11 --> 00:51:14 but for our family you know I'm sure as

00:51:14 --> 00:51:15 you was going through that you was like

00:51:15 --> 00:51:16 wait a minute Lord you this is happening

00:51:16 --> 00:51:19 so and so why I a see that why I not see

00:51:19 --> 00:51:22 that and we get like I'm almost insulted

00:51:22 --> 00:51:25 like how I miss it how did I see you

00:51:25 --> 00:51:28 didn't tell me should you not no heads

00:51:28 --> 00:51:32 up yeah yeah so yeah is bless that's I

00:51:32 --> 00:51:34 do want to talk about your Ghana house

00:51:34 --> 00:51:35 because we friends now so I want to come

00:51:35 --> 00:51:38 visit Ghana yes come and visit us Ghana

00:51:38 --> 00:51:41 I got friends in Ghana Nigeria uh

00:51:41 --> 00:51:44 Zambia um you know have an International

00:51:44 --> 00:51:47 Ministry so um I got uh United Kingdoms

00:51:47 --> 00:51:49 I I need to take a world tour just to go

00:51:49 --> 00:51:51 see all these places but so you have so

00:51:51 --> 00:51:54 you have a house in Ghana yes yes we

00:51:54 --> 00:51:57 have a home there

00:51:57 --> 00:51:59 yes go ahead and pack your bag and come

00:51:59 --> 00:52:01 and visit us because we love hosting uh

00:52:01 --> 00:52:03 literally we're actually even though I'm

00:52:03 --> 00:52:06 here we're hosting uh people now at our

00:52:06 --> 00:52:09 home um but yeah we we love hosting and

00:52:09 --> 00:52:11 you know just the spirit of hospitality

00:52:11 --> 00:52:13 that's really what it is it's a so is

00:52:13 --> 00:52:15 your husband from Ghana he is he is he's

00:52:16 --> 00:52:19 full G yes he is girl how you meet him

00:52:19 --> 00:52:22 we met so we

00:52:22 --> 00:52:26 met I had gone on uh a Eat Pray Love

00:52:26 --> 00:52:30 trip right I had gone I did I did just

00:52:30 --> 00:52:31 started off with this love language go

00:52:31 --> 00:52:37 ahead all about so I um had gone uh had

00:52:37 --> 00:52:40 ended rather had just had a like really

00:52:40 --> 00:52:43 traumatic end to an engagement um and

00:52:43 --> 00:52:44 one of my girlfriends I was sitting down

00:52:44 --> 00:52:46 like with dinner like catching up on

00:52:46 --> 00:52:48 everything that had happened and I'm

00:52:48 --> 00:52:50 like yeah girl like you know it's it's

00:52:50 --> 00:52:53 over very traumatic I need to heal like

00:52:53 --> 00:52:55 you know that's all I'm focused on is

00:52:55 --> 00:53:00 like getting better and um she uh tells

00:53:00 --> 00:53:01 me she's like so after I was done

00:53:01 --> 00:53:03 everything she's like you're done are

00:53:03 --> 00:53:04 you sure you got everything out I was

00:53:04 --> 00:53:06 like yep I'm good girl tell me what's

00:53:06 --> 00:53:08 going on with you she's like yeah so

00:53:08 --> 00:53:09 we're going to Ghana for my birthday in

00:53:10 --> 00:53:12 two months and I was like two months

00:53:12 --> 00:53:16 like what now granted they uh her and

00:53:16 --> 00:53:19 one of our mutual girlfriends they go

00:53:19 --> 00:53:21 regularly right our mutual girlfriend

00:53:21 --> 00:53:24 she's half G Yen so she has a you know

00:53:24 --> 00:53:25 family there they have houses there all

00:53:25 --> 00:53:27 of those sort of things so it's a second

00:53:27 --> 00:53:29 home for her so for the two of them to

00:53:29 --> 00:53:31 be going it wasn't completely out of the

00:53:31 --> 00:53:33 norm but when she told me for her

00:53:33 --> 00:53:34 birthday I started doing a me I said

00:53:34 --> 00:53:36 girl that's in two months like what do

00:53:36 --> 00:53:38 we got to do we got to get ready right

00:53:38 --> 00:53:41 so she asked me if I wanted to go and I

00:53:41 --> 00:53:44 had no reason why I couldn't go um every

00:53:44 --> 00:53:47 like everything was available um in

00:53:47 --> 00:53:51 terms of resources time just all of the

00:53:51 --> 00:53:52 things I had someone that I was

00:53:52 --> 00:53:54 traveling with so that helped me to feel

00:53:54 --> 00:53:58 a little more comfortable and um yeah so

00:53:58 --> 00:54:00 we we over the next two months we got

00:54:00 --> 00:54:02 everything together very quickly and um

00:54:03 --> 00:54:04 you know booked our flights and did all

00:54:04 --> 00:54:06 of those things booked our airbn we

00:54:06 --> 00:54:08 actually didn't book our Airbnb until

00:54:08 --> 00:54:09 like the day before we left that's a

00:54:09 --> 00:54:11 whole another story don't recommend that

00:54:11 --> 00:54:13 but we ended up in a really good place

00:54:13 --> 00:54:16 um and yeah we went to Ghana and I was

00:54:16 --> 00:54:19 just going I wanted to experience the

00:54:19 --> 00:54:21 motherland I um had never been to an

00:54:21 --> 00:54:24 African country and it felt like going

00:54:24 --> 00:54:27 home to me um yes that I stepped out of

00:54:27 --> 00:54:30 that airport I was just like I cannot

00:54:30 --> 00:54:34 believe like I'm home like this loud yes

00:54:34 --> 00:54:37 um I cannot

00:54:37 --> 00:54:40 wait have to come visit so we um so

00:54:40 --> 00:54:42 we're we're there you know for a couple

00:54:42 --> 00:54:43 days were're there to obviously

00:54:43 --> 00:54:46 celebrate her birthday and um one of the

00:54:46 --> 00:54:49 things about Ghana everything stays open

00:54:49 --> 00:54:53 late during like their High seasons and

00:54:53 --> 00:54:54 like what I mean High seasons is like

00:54:54 --> 00:54:57 during tourism seasons um and like a

00:54:57 --> 00:54:59 couple of other times of the year so we

00:54:59 --> 00:55:03 went in the summer um uh of

00:55:03 --> 00:55:08 2022 2022 um so yeah so pic I was during

00:55:08 --> 00:55:12 Co too um it was on the tail end I think

00:55:12 --> 00:55:14 I feel like we traveled with mask we

00:55:14 --> 00:55:15 were still wearing masks like on the

00:55:15 --> 00:55:16 plan oh no no I mean I don't care what

00:55:16 --> 00:55:18 the mask I would just saying go go get

00:55:18 --> 00:55:22 the timelines I go for the

00:55:22 --> 00:55:26 story yes so this was in 2022 um and

00:55:26 --> 00:55:29 yeah so again we you know get get over

00:55:29 --> 00:55:31 there a couple days we're running around

00:55:31 --> 00:55:32 like trying to get everything together

00:55:32 --> 00:55:34 for like her birthday dinner and I was

00:55:34 --> 00:55:36 saying that like everything stays open

00:55:36 --> 00:55:39 like super late during that time of year

00:55:39 --> 00:55:41 so we end up going we didn't even leave

00:55:41 --> 00:55:42 for dinner until like 10 o'clock at

00:55:42 --> 00:55:45 night like that's like completely normal

00:55:45 --> 00:55:48 um so we end up going out we go out to

00:55:48 --> 00:55:50 this really really beautiful dinner um

00:55:50 --> 00:55:53 you know they want to go dancing so we

00:55:53 --> 00:55:56 end up going to we ended up at a couple

00:55:56 --> 00:55:58 like different places or whatever like a

00:55:58 --> 00:56:00 outdoor lounge sort of place and all of

00:56:00 --> 00:56:02 these different things um and at one of

00:56:02 --> 00:56:05 the places they kept telling me about

00:56:05 --> 00:56:07 this guy right um and I'm not gonna say

00:56:07 --> 00:56:09 his name but about this guy that was you

00:56:09 --> 00:56:12 know a mutual friend or whatever and

00:56:12 --> 00:56:14 they're like yeah you know like he's

00:56:14 --> 00:56:15 gonna be hanging out with us and I'm

00:56:15 --> 00:56:17 like cool and we were on a co-ed trip so

00:56:17 --> 00:56:20 it was me and two of my girlfriends uh

00:56:20 --> 00:56:23 the birthday girl's boyfriend at the

00:56:23 --> 00:56:24 time they weren't even engaged yet

00:56:24 --> 00:56:27 they're married now um but yeah so

00:56:27 --> 00:56:29 boyfriend at the time um and then

00:56:29 --> 00:56:31 another Mutual guy friend so we were

00:56:31 --> 00:56:34 already on a co-ed trip um we meet up

00:56:34 --> 00:56:37 with this other guy and he has a friend

00:56:37 --> 00:56:40 with him that friend is now my husband

00:56:40 --> 00:56:42 oh and y'all probably wondering why I

00:56:42 --> 00:56:45 asked these questions and I'm not being

00:56:45 --> 00:56:47 nosy but it was definitely a great love

00:56:47 --> 00:56:49 story but I want you to know how

00:56:49 --> 00:56:51 faithful God is oh yes that she was

00:56:51 --> 00:56:54 already going through a broken place and

00:56:54 --> 00:56:55 here she is saying listen I'm going to

00:56:55 --> 00:56:57 go over here on his eat love pray

00:56:57 --> 00:57:00 Retreat yes and God said listen that

00:57:01 --> 00:57:03 that was not a mistake cuz your blessing

00:57:03 --> 00:57:08 was here yes yes I encourage

00:57:08 --> 00:57:10 all I'm sorry go ahead was it Love at

00:57:10 --> 00:57:13 First Sight uh for him it was for me it

00:57:13 --> 00:57:15 was not not because of like attraction

00:57:15 --> 00:57:17 or anything you going through something

00:57:17 --> 00:57:18 I was going through something yes I was

00:57:18 --> 00:57:20 very actively healing and I was very

00:57:20 --> 00:57:22 transparent with him about that um

00:57:22 --> 00:57:24 because we were able to spend we met

00:57:24 --> 00:57:26 pretty early in our trip like just

00:57:26 --> 00:57:28 couple days into the trip and I ended up

00:57:28 --> 00:57:31 extending my trip by a couple days as

00:57:31 --> 00:57:33 well um so we were together literally

00:57:33 --> 00:57:37 from the day that we met we have either

00:57:37 --> 00:57:39 been together in person or talked every

00:57:39 --> 00:57:42 single day like not a day has been this

00:57:42 --> 00:57:45 beautiful yeah so I told him I was like

00:57:45 --> 00:57:49 you know I'm not looking like I'm I was

00:57:49 --> 00:57:51 ready to have my best Holy Girl Summer

00:57:51 --> 00:57:53 like this was at the beginning like baby

00:57:53 --> 00:57:55 your girl is free like I'm trying to be

00:57:55 --> 00:57:56 outside

00:57:56 --> 00:57:59 okay like all of the brunches and

00:57:59 --> 00:58:01 lunches I want to be traveling I want to

00:58:01 --> 00:58:05 be doing all of the things I was single

00:58:05 --> 00:58:08 I had just moved to North Carolina um

00:58:08 --> 00:58:11 maybe like a year before that had my

00:58:11 --> 00:58:14 dream car my little luxury apartment

00:58:14 --> 00:58:18 like Florida okay her best single wife

00:58:18 --> 00:58:21 all right so I was like I'm just focused

00:58:21 --> 00:58:25 on my healing and he was very clear like

00:58:25 --> 00:58:27 before I got on on that plane he told me

00:58:27 --> 00:58:30 like I am committed to you and I was

00:58:30 --> 00:58:32 like what does that even mean and he was

00:58:32 --> 00:58:34 like in every way I am committed to you

00:58:34 --> 00:58:37 I just need you to clear about that and

00:58:37 --> 00:58:39 I'm like okay but I'm still single and

00:58:39 --> 00:58:43 ready to mingle okay um so yeah so I

00:58:43 --> 00:58:45 came back to the States and like I said

00:58:45 --> 00:58:48 we literally talked every single day um

00:58:48 --> 00:58:50 I think I was like dating somebody else

00:58:50 --> 00:58:53 at the time too like in the beginning

00:58:53 --> 00:58:54 that didn't last or not dating I was

00:58:54 --> 00:58:56 talking to somebody else at the like in

00:58:56 --> 00:58:59 the beginning uh that didn't last too

00:58:59 --> 00:59:03 long at all um and then yeah we from

00:59:03 --> 00:59:05 there we entered into premarital

00:59:05 --> 00:59:08 counseling um we eventually got engaged

00:59:08 --> 00:59:10 we got married and then we just

00:59:10 --> 00:59:13 continued building our lives together

00:59:13 --> 00:59:16 did was he a pastor already no no so

00:59:16 --> 00:59:19 he's not a pastor now okay okay okay

00:59:19 --> 00:59:22 okay so does serve in Ministry though um

00:59:22 --> 00:59:24 and definitely a man of God like strong

00:59:25 --> 00:59:27 strong faith a true man of faith and he

00:59:27 --> 00:59:30 comes from you know the same sort of

00:59:30 --> 00:59:32 background uh pastors and all of that in

00:59:32 --> 00:59:35 his family um there's actually a church

00:59:35 --> 00:59:38 on his family's compound there um that

00:59:38 --> 00:59:40 they rent out you know to another

00:59:40 --> 00:59:43 Ministry um but yeah they have uh and

00:59:43 --> 00:59:45 the whole family serves in Ministry like

00:59:45 --> 00:59:47 everybody got a role um at the local

00:59:47 --> 00:59:51 church um and yeah we you know we we had

00:59:51 --> 00:59:54 and all of those things but yep see I

00:59:54 --> 00:59:57 even love knowing that because my

00:59:57 --> 00:59:59 husband's truly a man of God a man of

00:59:59 --> 01:00:02 prayer yeah a man of God but he's not a

01:00:02 --> 01:00:04 pastor or you know like a leader you

01:00:04 --> 01:00:08 know in church or anything like that um

01:00:08 --> 01:00:11 and so okay so now I got more questions

01:00:11 --> 01:00:14 now right um not questions but I think

01:00:14 --> 01:00:16 it's important in this birthing season

01:00:16 --> 01:00:18 because now you birth into a new season

01:00:18 --> 01:00:20 and for y'all who don't know chap seats

01:00:20 --> 01:00:23 in the back y know how I do this this

01:00:23 --> 01:00:25 was a promotion because marriage is

01:00:25 --> 01:00:26 always a promotion

01:00:26 --> 01:00:29 right here you are promoted to marriage

01:00:29 --> 01:00:31 and now the Lord promoted you also in

01:00:31 --> 01:00:33 Ministry now you prepar for pastoring

01:00:33 --> 01:00:35 because that you have your covering and

01:00:35 --> 01:00:36 you're ready to go forth you serve your

01:00:36 --> 01:00:38 time you do what you're supposed to do

01:00:38 --> 01:00:41 and here you go how does your hand

01:00:41 --> 01:00:44 husband handle you as Pastor

01:00:44 --> 01:00:47 Tiffany yeah yeah I love what you just

01:00:47 --> 01:00:51 said about even the timing of that it

01:00:51 --> 01:00:54 was after I got married that God

01:00:54 --> 01:00:56 revealed like or not I got married but

01:00:56 --> 01:00:59 after I met him that God began to really

01:00:59 --> 01:01:01 speak to me concerning the mornings with

01:01:01 --> 01:01:04 God Ministry and my husband was the one

01:01:04 --> 01:01:06 who came and started declaring even

01:01:07 --> 01:01:08 before he was my husband he declared

01:01:08 --> 01:01:11 over my life that this would be a global

01:01:11 --> 01:01:13 Ministry and that has happened just in a

01:01:13 --> 01:01:16 few short years like not just saying it

01:01:16 --> 01:01:19 but we actually meet and have in-person

01:01:19 --> 01:01:22 Bible studies with a community in Ghana

01:01:22 --> 01:01:24 in addition to the things that we do

01:01:24 --> 01:01:26 here and I'm always really clear about

01:01:26 --> 01:01:28 that because most Ministries can have

01:01:28 --> 01:01:31 like an international component just

01:01:31 --> 01:01:32 because of like the accessibility of

01:01:32 --> 01:01:35 Technology but like no where are your

01:01:35 --> 01:01:38 people being impacted are your leaders

01:01:38 --> 01:01:40 coming from different places are you

01:01:40 --> 01:01:43 know physical events in those places or

01:01:43 --> 01:01:45 considering those people and I know that

01:01:45 --> 01:01:47 you know this because you got you know

01:01:47 --> 01:01:48 people who are connected to your

01:01:48 --> 01:01:50 ministry in all different countries

01:01:50 --> 01:01:52 these are the things that we have to you

01:01:52 --> 01:01:54 know consider when we are leading um and

01:01:54 --> 01:01:57 shepherding but if was he was the one

01:01:57 --> 01:01:59 that really began to speak and still

01:01:59 --> 01:02:01 speaks he's like this ain't nothing

01:02:01 --> 01:02:04 compared like this ain't nothing it's

01:02:04 --> 01:02:08 gonna be like at all um but yeah he um I

01:02:08 --> 01:02:10 will tell you it's it's interesting that

01:02:10 --> 01:02:12 you asked this question I ended the

01:02:13 --> 01:02:15 prayer Thon uh with these exact words

01:02:15 --> 01:02:18 that I'm getting ready to share um I

01:02:18 --> 01:02:21 ended it by thanking my husband for

01:02:21 --> 01:02:23 giving me the freedom to do what I

01:02:23 --> 01:02:26 needed to do because the pray and

01:02:26 --> 01:02:29 anything that you do in Ministry it is

01:02:29 --> 01:02:32 heavy lift I will say that there was an

01:02:32 --> 01:02:35 adjustment in terms of him understanding

01:02:35 --> 01:02:38 like my study time because when he comes

01:02:38 --> 01:02:39 to the office door it kind of looks it

01:02:39 --> 01:02:41 might look like I'm not doing anything

01:02:41 --> 01:02:43 right and I'm like no like you you have

01:02:43 --> 01:02:47 to understand that this is my work like

01:02:48 --> 01:02:50 me sitting in here studying for four or

01:02:50 --> 01:02:53 five hours straight my only job right

01:02:53 --> 01:02:57 now is right and and it's it's serving

01:02:57 --> 01:02:59 and leading these people and leading

01:02:59 --> 01:03:01 this prayer movement and all of those

01:03:01 --> 01:03:04 things so as a result I got to put in

01:03:04 --> 01:03:06 work like like I'm working right like I

01:03:06 --> 01:03:08 need to six seven eight hours you know

01:03:08 --> 01:03:11 in terms of the the the totality of the

01:03:11 --> 01:03:15 things that I do in a day and um uh so

01:03:15 --> 01:03:17 that was an adjustment I just think

01:03:17 --> 01:03:19 again because he wasn't used to it he

01:03:19 --> 01:03:22 had never been with anyone um who was in

01:03:22 --> 01:03:25 Ministry the way that I am um but he

01:03:25 --> 01:03:29 came along he is the creative mind um

01:03:29 --> 01:03:31 behind like a lot of what is on my

01:03:31 --> 01:03:34 social media he will come with ideas he

01:03:34 --> 01:03:37 captures all of my videos he does all of

01:03:37 --> 01:03:40 my reals um he does all of the editing

01:03:40 --> 01:03:42 like his he's he's a creative right

01:03:43 --> 01:03:44 where I'm more analytical and like

01:03:44 --> 01:03:48 methodical he's very very creative um he

01:03:48 --> 01:03:49 you know makes sure that I'm taking care

01:03:50 --> 01:03:52 of if I'm doing an all day event he's

01:03:52 --> 01:03:54 going to make sure I'm fed when I'm done

01:03:54 --> 01:03:56 he knows I need quiet time he knows I

01:03:56 --> 01:03:59 need food he knows I need rest like

01:03:59 --> 01:04:02 quiet time yes and we had to grow in

01:04:02 --> 01:04:04 that though I again I want to be honest

01:04:04 --> 01:04:06 and say that we had to grow in that but

01:04:06 --> 01:04:09 there was a baseline to work with right

01:04:09 --> 01:04:11 already a Believer he already serves the

01:04:11 --> 01:04:13 Lord like there were some things that we

01:04:13 --> 01:04:17 just did not have to uh hash out but he

01:04:17 --> 01:04:21 has learned you know to be uh my partner

01:04:21 --> 01:04:24 in Ministry um even when he's not seen

01:04:24 --> 01:04:28 and since then we've authored a a book

01:04:28 --> 01:04:30 together a book on fasting and living a

01:04:30 --> 01:04:33 consecrated life he has led prayers

01:04:33 --> 01:04:37 since then um and just to see like how

01:04:37 --> 01:04:39 he has grown but also how I have grown

01:04:39 --> 01:04:41 as well how I've grown in my

01:04:41 --> 01:04:43 communication how I've grown in

01:04:43 --> 01:04:45 Partnership I never had to partner with

01:04:45 --> 01:04:47 anybody in Ministry mornings with God

01:04:47 --> 01:04:50 wasn't a partnership it was me by myself

01:04:50 --> 01:04:52 so all of these things but the biggest

01:04:52 --> 01:04:55 thing is that my husband gives me the

01:04:55 --> 01:04:56 freedom

01:04:56 --> 01:05:00 to be who I am in Ministry never ever

01:05:00 --> 01:05:04 Cuts me down he is not competing with me

01:05:04 --> 01:05:07 he's not jealous of me um none of th

01:05:07 --> 01:05:08 like none of those things none of those

01:05:08 --> 01:05:11 things and you can't be with somebody

01:05:11 --> 01:05:13 male or female who want to cut you down

01:05:13 --> 01:05:15 or think they incom compete with

01:05:15 --> 01:05:18 you that was so good we running out of

01:05:18 --> 01:05:20 time but this is so good I gotta bring

01:05:20 --> 01:05:22 you back because there's so much to say

01:05:22 --> 01:05:24 talk I got so many questions and it was

01:05:24 --> 01:05:28 so much fun yeah I am so glad that I

01:05:28 --> 01:05:30 have a new friend and I did not even

01:05:30 --> 01:05:32 know y'all when I was being

01:05:32 --> 01:05:33 transactional asking her to be my friend

01:05:33 --> 01:05:35 because she was amazing amazing doing

01:05:35 --> 01:05:37 amazing things and I just wanted to sit

01:05:37 --> 01:05:38 and pick her brain and be her friend and

01:05:38 --> 01:05:40 like have good conversation now I know

01:05:40 --> 01:05:42 that she International to I got friend

01:05:42 --> 01:05:43 that

01:05:44 --> 01:05:46 living look at my passport and ask my

01:05:46 --> 01:05:49 husband if I can go be my best behavior

01:05:49 --> 01:05:52 yes I always ask Pastor Tiffany Our

01:05:53 --> 01:05:53 Guest

01:05:53 --> 01:05:56 to you have any last words words

01:05:56 --> 01:05:57 definitely where can we find you on

01:05:57 --> 01:05:58 social media I'm going to put all her

01:05:58 --> 01:06:01 handles down in our comments so you all

01:06:01 --> 01:06:03 know where to find her if you want to um

01:06:03 --> 01:06:06 engage in Ministry at all with Pastor

01:06:06 --> 01:06:09 Tiffany if you are learning how to pray

01:06:09 --> 01:06:12 or if you want to join the paron and you

01:06:12 --> 01:06:13 want to push if you live in over in a

01:06:13 --> 01:06:15 different country and you're in Ghana

01:06:15 --> 01:06:17 and you want to come to a Bible study I

01:06:17 --> 01:06:19 make sure you have all her information

01:06:19 --> 01:06:21 so you can know how to contact her if

01:06:21 --> 01:06:23 you have questions about anything you

01:06:23 --> 01:06:26 heard today please leave a comment we

01:06:26 --> 01:06:27 need your comments I like your feedback

01:06:27 --> 01:06:29 I like your engagement and make sure you

01:06:29 --> 01:06:31 like And subscribe and you share this

01:06:31 --> 01:06:33 broadcast with your friends your family

01:06:33 --> 01:06:34 and someone else anything else you want

01:06:34 --> 01:06:36 to say last to Clos us out if not you

01:06:37 --> 01:06:39 can go and pray out too yeah yeah so

01:06:39 --> 01:06:41 I'll just round all of that up so uh

01:06:42 --> 01:06:43 yeah we'll link everything um but you

01:06:44 --> 01:06:46 can find me on uh every social media

01:06:46 --> 01:06:50 platform at Tiffany P SOA um that is my

01:06:50 --> 01:06:53 handle on everything um and then of

01:06:53 --> 01:06:56 course mornings with God uh is on

01:06:56 --> 01:06:59 everything as well um the final thing

01:06:59 --> 01:07:02 that I would say is don't stop praying

01:07:02 --> 01:07:04 and I know that it's so cliche but even

01:07:04 --> 01:07:07 in my roughest moments when all I had

01:07:07 --> 01:07:11 was Jesus helped me in my roughest

01:07:11 --> 01:07:14 moments when all I had was God I need

01:07:14 --> 01:07:16 you right that is a prayer um so

01:07:17 --> 01:07:19 whatever you are going through listen

01:07:19 --> 01:07:20 calling on the name of Jesus is a prayer

01:07:20 --> 01:07:23 okay there's power in that name calling

01:07:23 --> 01:07:26 on the name of God Yahweh Jehovah Elohim

01:07:26 --> 01:07:29 where you at right that is a prayer in

01:07:30 --> 01:07:32 itself um so no matter what season you

01:07:32 --> 01:07:35 find yourself in do not stop praying

01:07:35 --> 01:07:37 when you get yourself in a good place

01:07:37 --> 01:07:39 don't stop praying don't you forget

01:07:39 --> 01:07:41 about what you did in the trenches with

01:07:41 --> 01:07:44 god um and whatever you do do not stop

01:07:44 --> 01:07:47 praying and on that note um we're gonna

01:07:47 --> 01:07:49 close out in prayer we're gonna close

01:07:49 --> 01:07:51 out

01:07:51 --> 01:07:53 prayer amen sorry I needed to get a

01:07:53 --> 01:07:58 little splash swe we've been talking for

01:07:58 --> 01:08:00 hour so father God before we come to you

01:08:00 --> 01:08:02 asking you for anything we first just

01:08:02 --> 01:08:05 want to say thank you God for everything

01:08:05 --> 01:08:07 we want to thank you Lord for this

01:08:07 --> 01:08:09 broadcast we want to thank you God for

01:08:09 --> 01:08:11 this podcast rather and in all of the

01:08:11 --> 01:08:14 ways that it is broadcasted and we thank

01:08:14 --> 01:08:16 you oh God that you are with us thank

01:08:16 --> 01:08:18 you for being here thank you for your

01:08:18 --> 01:08:20 presence thank you God for guiding the

01:08:20 --> 01:08:22 conversation thank you for determining

01:08:23 --> 01:08:25 what we needed to talk about during this

01:08:25 --> 01:08:27 episode and we believe by faith that

01:08:27 --> 01:08:30 every person who hears it will be

01:08:30 --> 01:08:32 blessed every person who hears it that

01:08:32 --> 01:08:34 they will encounter you that they will

01:08:34 --> 01:08:36 have an encounter with you that forever

01:08:36 --> 01:08:39 changes their lives we thank you oh God

01:08:39 --> 01:08:40 that you are speaking to the one who has

01:08:41 --> 01:08:44 a complex history a complex past that is

01:08:44 --> 01:08:46 laced with so much disappointment and

01:08:46 --> 01:08:49 sin and Disobedience Brokenness and

01:08:49 --> 01:08:51 resentment and pain and hurt we thank

01:08:51 --> 01:08:53 you that you are speaking to that one

01:08:53 --> 01:08:55 and reminding them that you can use them

01:08:55 --> 01:08:58 to that you can use them in the way that

01:08:58 --> 01:09:00 you desire to it may not look like

01:09:00 --> 01:09:03 having a podcast it may not look like

01:09:03 --> 01:09:05 preaching in a pull pit but it will look

01:09:05 --> 01:09:08 like the unique purpose and Destiny that

01:09:08 --> 01:09:11 you have for them remind them oh God

01:09:11 --> 01:09:13 that there is a brighter future ahead

01:09:13 --> 01:09:16 that there is more ahead and as long as

01:09:16 --> 01:09:18 they've got you as long as they find

01:09:18 --> 01:09:20 themselves abiding in you and you

01:09:20 --> 01:09:22 abiding in them they will be okay we

01:09:22 --> 01:09:25 pray for every marriage oh God every

01:09:25 --> 01:09:27 person that is married and everyone who

01:09:27 --> 01:09:29 wants to be married I pray oh God that

01:09:29 --> 01:09:32 you would send your single people into

01:09:32 --> 01:09:34 all the Earth that they would come out

01:09:34 --> 01:09:36 of their comfort zones that you would

01:09:36 --> 01:09:38 bless them with the resources to go and

01:09:38 --> 01:09:41 live and do to explore and travel and

01:09:41 --> 01:09:44 try things oh God and we thank you oh

01:09:44 --> 01:09:46 God that while they are just living that

01:09:46 --> 01:09:49 you will cause them to have a collision

01:09:49 --> 01:09:51 with the one that you have saved for

01:09:51 --> 01:09:53 them we thank you oh God for every

01:09:53 --> 01:09:55 marriage that is already together we

01:09:55 --> 01:09:57 plead the blood of Jesus over every

01:09:57 --> 01:09:59 marriage that you have put together and

01:09:59 --> 01:10:02 we declare that no weapon formed against

01:10:02 --> 01:10:04 the marriage shall prosper we speak

01:10:04 --> 01:10:07 Unity we speak collaboration and

01:10:07 --> 01:10:09 partnership over every marriage and God

01:10:09 --> 01:10:12 I want to pray over your daughter Lena I

01:10:12 --> 01:10:15 want to pray oh God over her Ministry

01:10:15 --> 01:10:17 over the battlefield of the intercessors

01:10:17 --> 01:10:19 oh God we thank

01:10:19 --> 01:10:23 hi we thank God that you are raising up

01:10:23 --> 01:10:27 intercessors and Nation around the world

01:10:27 --> 01:10:29 we thank you oh God that you are raising

01:10:29 --> 01:10:32 up intercessors through your daughter

01:10:32 --> 01:10:34 who will stay on the battlefield who

01:10:34 --> 01:10:36 will stay in the place of prayer who

01:10:36 --> 01:10:39 will deploy this deploy their spiritual

01:10:39 --> 01:10:41 weapons oh God I plead the blood of

01:10:41 --> 01:10:43 Jesus over your daughter I plead the

01:10:44 --> 01:10:45 blood of Jesus over her mind and over

01:10:46 --> 01:10:48 her heart oh God that she would always

01:10:48 --> 01:10:50 be able to hear from you that she would

01:10:50 --> 01:10:52 always be in tune with you walking in

01:10:52 --> 01:10:55 lock step with you never apart from you

01:10:55 --> 01:10:58 in the name of Jesus God I pray that if

01:10:58 --> 01:11:00 anything or anyone tries to cause

01:11:00 --> 01:11:03 division between you and your daughter

01:11:03 --> 01:11:05 that you would shut it down in the name

01:11:05 --> 01:11:08 of Jesus do with them what you will in

01:11:08 --> 01:11:10 the name of Jesus God we just say thank

01:11:11 --> 01:11:13 you uh that this ministry is blessed

01:11:13 --> 01:11:15 that this ministry is expanding that

01:11:15 --> 01:11:17 this ministry is whole that this

01:11:18 --> 01:11:20 ministry is well resource God I thank

01:11:20 --> 01:11:23 you that you are releasing the resources

01:11:23 --> 01:11:26 for your daughter to go to the nation

01:11:26 --> 01:11:28 noer will she go virtually but you will

01:11:28 --> 01:11:31 send her my God to put her feet on the

01:11:31 --> 01:11:34 soil to put her feet on the ground and I

01:11:34 --> 01:11:36 thank you God H that there is an army

01:11:36 --> 01:11:38 that is waiting for her that there is an

01:11:38 --> 01:11:41 army that is waiting to back her up uh

01:11:41 --> 01:11:43 that you are dispatching Angel armies

01:11:43 --> 01:11:46 around her and that you are dispatching

01:11:46 --> 01:11:49 natural armies human people uh uh who

01:11:49 --> 01:11:52 you have used chosen vessels to back her

01:11:52 --> 01:11:54 up in the spirit I thank you God that

01:11:54 --> 01:11:56 she will never go anywhere and be by

01:11:56 --> 01:11:59 herself because your spirit is always

01:11:59 --> 01:12:01 with her so we plead the blood of Jesus

01:12:01 --> 01:12:04 my God over her prayer room we plead the

01:12:04 --> 01:12:07 blood of Jesus over her home oh God we

01:12:07 --> 01:12:09 plead the blood of Jesus over their

01:12:09 --> 01:12:11 children we plead the blood of Jesus

01:12:11 --> 01:12:13 over their animals we plead the blood of

01:12:13 --> 01:12:16 Jesus over their marriage over

01:12:16 --> 01:12:18 everything concerning and connecting to

01:12:18 --> 01:12:20 connected to them we even plead the

01:12:20 --> 01:12:22 blood of Jesus over her husband in his

01:12:22 --> 01:12:25 career we declare

01:12:25 --> 01:12:27 that every time he steps out of the

01:12:27 --> 01:12:29 house he is covered every time he steps

01:12:29 --> 01:12:32 out of the house he is being used as a

01:12:32 --> 01:12:35 blessing H and as a an evangelist for

01:12:35 --> 01:12:37 the kingdom of God we thank you oh God

01:12:37 --> 01:12:39 for what you are doing in her life we

01:12:39 --> 01:12:41 thank you for what is happening in the

01:12:41 --> 01:12:44 birthing room even now thank you Lord we

01:12:44 --> 01:12:46 thank you oh God that there is more that

01:12:46 --> 01:12:48 will be birthed oh my God that there is

01:12:48 --> 01:12:51 more that will be birth and we pray

01:12:51 --> 01:12:53 these in all things in the name of your

01:12:53 --> 01:12:55 son Jesus Christ and

01:12:55 --> 01:12:58 and you alone who is able to keep us we

01:12:58 --> 01:13:01 say thank you God and amen

01:13:01 --> 01:13:05 hallelujah thank you Lord amen amen and

01:13:05 --> 01:13:07 amen thank you y'all know how how what I

01:13:07 --> 01:13:09 say when I ask the intercessor or

01:13:09 --> 01:13:11 Prophet to pray y'all just got a hold on

01:13:11 --> 01:13:12 we don't know how long we gonna be I

01:13:12 --> 01:13:15 thank God for the warrior I wanted to go

01:13:15 --> 01:13:18 in but like she said my husband allows

01:13:18 --> 01:13:20 me this time and shout out to Johnny

01:13:20 --> 01:13:22 thank you for giving me this time to do

01:13:22 --> 01:13:25 this podcast on this night and for those

01:13:25 --> 01:13:27 of you that are saying I want a prayer

01:13:27 --> 01:13:29 life I'm not really sure where to start

01:13:29 --> 01:13:31 I don't know how to pray I'm going give

01:13:31 --> 01:13:33 youall a real quick tip there's two

01:13:33 --> 01:13:35 things the father cannot ignore the Lord

01:13:35 --> 01:13:37 cannot ignore his word and he cannot

01:13:37 --> 01:13:40 ignore your praise he's let he inhabits

01:13:40 --> 01:13:42 the praise of his people so all you got

01:13:42 --> 01:13:44 to do is give God a praise if you give

01:13:44 --> 01:13:46 God a praise he come down into your

01:13:46 --> 01:13:49 situation and I promise he's concerned

01:13:49 --> 01:13:51 what concerns you and if you give God

01:13:51 --> 01:13:54 back his word if you open up your Bible

01:13:54 --> 01:13:55 find a scripture put yourself in that

01:13:55 --> 01:13:57 word and you read it back to the father

01:13:57 --> 01:14:00 and declare over your life Hallelujah

01:14:00 --> 01:14:02 the Lord will show up for you and he

01:14:02 --> 01:14:05 will answer and if you need a little

01:14:05 --> 01:14:07 assistance I do have a book it's called

01:14:07 --> 01:14:09 Uh the importance of prayer and it has

01:14:09 --> 01:14:12 everything that the woman of God talked

01:14:12 --> 01:14:14 about today it's a quick easy read I

01:14:14 --> 01:14:16 know y'all want to read no way so it's a

01:14:16 --> 01:14:18 quick easy read you can read it take it

01:14:18 --> 01:14:20 and you can literally walk through it

01:14:20 --> 01:14:25 and learn how to pray amen so I love you

01:14:25 --> 01:14:27 all thank you for watching and tuning in

01:14:27 --> 01:14:28 if you don't know the Lord as your

01:14:28 --> 01:14:30 personal Lord and Savior all you have to

01:14:30 --> 01:14:33 do is confess Jesus Christ as your lord

01:14:33 --> 01:14:34 and savior welcome him into your heart

01:14:34 --> 01:14:36 open yourself up confess your sins unto

01:14:36 --> 01:14:40 the Lord and I'm telling you life will

01:14:40 --> 01:14:41 change I want to give a shout out to

01:14:41 --> 01:14:43 Karen thank you Mr Karen for this outfit

01:14:43 --> 01:14:44 that you gave me I won't show you the

01:14:44 --> 01:14:47 pants I mean I gota stand up but it's

01:14:47 --> 01:14:49 the same I want to give her shout out

01:14:49 --> 01:14:50 for making this for the battlefield

01:14:50 --> 01:14:53 intercessors and I will see you guys

01:14:53 --> 01:14:56 next time on the battlefield it was such

01:14:56 --> 01:15:00 a pleasure having Pastor Tiffany today

01:15:00 --> 01:15:02 and until next time as I always say

01:15:02 --> 01:15:04 little prayer little power lot of prayer

01:15:04 --> 01:15:09 a lot of power everyone be blessed