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[00:00:48] Come back to Talk To Me Michele and here we go with Episode 2, Part 2 of The Sisters.
[00:01:00] Now in the last episode you got a glimpse into the childhood my sister and I shared and we also shared why we decided to end the Gospel and Heffa's podcast.
[00:01:11] In this episode we're going to be getting a little bit deeper in how our former podcast impacted our lives and the powerful influence of our parents, especially our mother that she had on our sisterhood.
[00:01:23] So make sure you like share and subscribe so you don't miss any of our conversations. Let's go.
[00:01:31] Now one thing I did find that when we marketed ourselves as a podcast as a woman owned and produced podcast that we experienced so much negativity on social media.
[00:01:43] Oh my God. And the experience of being trolled, having our page hacked and just outright lies and character flaws because we were all characters have been assaulted so many times on social media.
[00:01:58] Oh yes.
[00:01:59] And I'm like dude, yo you got to back it up. It did take a toll on us at a point.
[00:02:06] Well I mean the trolling having the page hacked that was a chitlin comedian.
[00:02:13] The hatred came from men and women because when people, like I said it took a minute for me to learn that when you have a light demons don't like light.
[00:02:23] Nope.
[00:02:23] Nope.
[00:02:24] And when you're when you enter a room, you light up that room so they can't hide and got their corners. They've been crouched in.
[00:02:32] And they didn't like that.
[00:02:34] And they don't like and colors don't like boundaries.
[00:02:38] Oh my God.
[00:02:41] When I speak on boundaries.
[00:02:45] The worst thing that America's this is why America's having such a hard time. I don't mean to bring in political shit.
[00:02:52] It's about America's having a hard time with it or a woman president.
[00:02:55] Right, right.
[00:02:56] The sexism.
[00:02:58] Yep.
[00:02:58] How dare you be intelligent.
[00:03:00] How dare you embrace your light.
[00:03:03] Right.
[00:03:03] How dare you confront me and tell me I'm full of shit and you're a woman.
[00:03:08] And I always tell me your pussy fell out. Stop playing with me.
[00:03:13] Take your sensitive sassy ass over there.
[00:03:19] And then with the women, you just mad because your light dim and you also like that you mad that our light exposed your little demon.
[00:03:28] Right.
[00:03:28] So you know it was so much when it came behind that and the trolls and the hatred.
[00:03:36] And you and me experienced a lot of this shit in our childhood.
[00:03:39] Yeah.
[00:03:40] And I believe that's in this is why a lot of y'all got to realize God already had us prepared for what our daddy did.
[00:03:46] Yeah.
[00:03:47] Because with with our father's job, we had to deal with people wanting to use you.
[00:03:53] Want a little light and also mad at the same time.
[00:03:57] And your fucking light and the same time beside the light haters.
[00:04:00] You had so many opportunities when we were doing the part girl and the set like that's why I was getting at.
[00:04:07] Yeah.
[00:04:07] We were trained as children.
[00:04:10] Because you would be both know when dad would have an album promotions.
[00:04:15] Oh, all of a sudden you got extra friends.
[00:04:17] Yep.
[00:04:18] Oh, they want to be down because they want whatever it is.
[00:04:20] I'll never forget when Juicy Fruit came out.
[00:04:23] Daddy worked Juicy Fruit.
[00:04:24] Right.
[00:04:25] All but if y'all don't know.
[00:04:26] In Tume.
[00:04:26] In Tume, B.I.G. did a remix on that record.
[00:04:30] And back in the early 80s their promo was this oversized Juicy Fruit gum.
[00:04:35] You remember that?
[00:04:36] Yep.
[00:04:36] You can hang it up on your wall.
[00:04:38] Yep.
[00:04:38] Everybody wanted one of them.
[00:04:40] Oh, everybody named Mammy wanted one of them oversized Juicy Fruit to hang in a room.
[00:04:45] We had so many fake friends coming towards us and I'm glad for that experience because we was exposed early.
[00:04:54] Right.
[00:04:54] To the fake shit.
[00:04:56] Right.
[00:04:56] The bullshit.
[00:04:57] And that's exactly what we got with this podcast.
[00:05:00] Yeah, it did because you know people come to you when they are in need of exposure for their own selves.
[00:05:08] And like I said we had a person that we dealt with for a moment that basically planned themselves on our platform and continuously you know would use the situation to their benefit.
[00:05:20] And we had a lot of those.
[00:05:22] Mm-hmm.
[00:05:22] And that was one thing that was a learned experience mainly for me because like I said you're not dealing with the podcast situation no more but me as a podcaster.
[00:05:32] I keep you aware though.
[00:05:33] No, you do keep me aware.
[00:05:34] Because obviously one thing about and I don't give fuck none of y'all hear me to say this I'm going to forever protect my sister because that is my job and that's her job when it comes to me and it's our job to do with my nephew.
[00:05:44] Exactly.
[00:05:45] And our office is in the same thing.
[00:05:47] Now Michelle be working I'm going to be fucking around playing a game or something.
[00:05:50] And I hear her conversation or hear somebody trying to DM her girl fuck that they try to get exposure.
[00:05:57] And they did the same thing with the gossip and heifers.
[00:06:00] Exactly.
[00:06:00] And y'all going to be mad with me just like the gossip and heifers because I shut your asses down on there.
[00:06:04] Yeah.
[00:06:05] And I'm going to shut you down.
[00:06:06] I'll talk to me Michelle because what you're not going to do is pick my sister's brain for your fuck shit to get some for free.
[00:06:17] Right, right.
[00:06:18] Nor will you get free advertisement and I'm not be honest with you because Michelle nice to me.
[00:06:22] She didn't be charging you motherfucker that's comedians, book writers if they want to get on there.
[00:06:27] Right.
[00:06:28] People that are requesting to pay a fee.
[00:06:31] But you know, I'm going to keep it authentic because I don't really want to have a conversation with people.
[00:06:36] I personally don't want to have a conversation with that's just the way I'm moving on this.
[00:06:40] No, I understand that.
[00:06:41] Yeah.
[00:06:41] That I understand but you got people that you cool with that want to get on here.
[00:06:45] Right.
[00:06:45] And they can still pay a fee too.
[00:06:47] Yeah.
[00:06:47] My thing about it is overexposure because like I said once you expose people that you cool with it needs to be a certain limit.
[00:06:55] Because unless you are trying to upgrade yourself on why we should have a conversation about what you're doing and how you're moving now, then really there's no point of rebooking you until you know that point.
[00:07:09] That it has to be a part of our society.
[00:07:11] Right.
[00:07:11] And see that's what people fail to understand just because you are cool with people and your friend has a platform and they can put you on anytime they want to doesn't necessarily mean is needs to be done.
[00:07:25] And you have people that want to come back on for whatever reason we've already touched that we've already did that.
[00:07:32] And I'm going to be in the background sitting on the side when y'all do that.
[00:07:36] Gert did you talk to them already?
[00:07:37] Right.
[00:07:38] What they here they what were they talking about?
[00:07:40] What's different about this conversation?
[00:07:42] Yeah, what's different about the conversation and what are they bringing to your table?
[00:07:46] So people got to realize this is your podcast and you're not just doing this for the hell of it.
[00:07:52] Right.
[00:07:52] This is something.
[00:07:53] It's your passion.
[00:07:54] Right.
[00:07:55] And you wanted to lead somewhere.
[00:07:56] So where is your conversation on me talking?
[00:08:00] Where's that going to take my podcast?
[00:08:01] Oh, nowhere.
[00:08:02] Okay.
[00:08:03] Well, goodbye.
[00:08:03] Right.
[00:08:04] Exactly.
[00:08:04] And that's why I have to carefully like I should have done a little bit better when we did have the gospel and help us navigate.
[00:08:11] Where is this conversation going and how is it going to look for the brand?
[00:08:14] And it got to a point like I said, just you know, dealing with the negativity after we would have people on our platform.
[00:08:22] And then it'd be a, you know, a stupid fallout over some drama they had made over in their own head.
[00:08:28] They even in a fitness because you won't bring them back on.
[00:08:31] Or I wouldn't allow you to cross boundaries.
[00:08:35] And I will never forget we did have a situation with a previous guest and the damn interview was so damn depressing.
[00:08:42] I was committing, you know, all kind of thoughts in my mind.
[00:08:45] And once we had a fallout and they tried to be cool again.
[00:08:51] And that's the first thing they started up with.
[00:08:53] When am I going to get back on?
[00:08:54] I might do, yo, your shit is good enough for fucking anti-depressants.
[00:08:59] No, you, you told, you told his ass something about.
[00:09:02] I told him he was on probation.
[00:09:04] Probation and he took that person.
[00:09:06] Right.
[00:09:06] I might do it.
[00:09:07] It's my shit.
[00:09:08] I can say that part.
[00:09:09] Who went and where this is my house.
[00:09:12] Right.
[00:09:12] And I live here.
[00:09:15] And you not invited.
[00:09:18] That motherfucker lost their mind.
[00:09:20] But that's another person of a habitual line across her.
[00:09:24] Right.
[00:09:25] A person has no respect for boundaries.
[00:09:28] Yes.
[00:09:28] And I'm okay if you don't respect my boundaries, you can go lower.
[00:09:33] Let the door hit you with the good Lord split you.
[00:09:35] There you go.
[00:09:35] I don't care because my boundaries are what they are.
[00:09:39] They're not going to change.
[00:09:40] I am who I am and the older I get the more I get like we's.
[00:09:44] I give no fuck.
[00:09:44] I give no dance.
[00:09:47] I used to really try to protect people's feelings.
[00:09:51] And that was another lead betrayed.
[00:09:53] Right.
[00:09:54] That I hate the people's.
[00:09:55] And it's not that I want to get along.
[00:09:58] I don't want to hurt your feelings with the truth.
[00:10:01] Right.
[00:10:01] Because you know, we can get little records with the truth.
[00:10:03] No, no, we just respect.
[00:10:05] All air size are just respect less fuck.
[00:10:08] I think Aquarius has beat us all, but we all are disrespectful.
[00:10:12] And the thing is I try to sugar coat things like maybe no.
[00:10:17] I'm trying to be nice.
[00:10:19] But then when you keep hitting on that door, tapping on the door with the same bullshit
[00:10:24] that's why I come out blazing and blasting.
[00:10:27] And I do that was trying not to get there.
[00:10:29] I thought you would catch on.
[00:10:31] But what kind of piece have you found now that the podcast with the God's behalf
[00:10:34] has ended?
[00:10:35] Girl and I dealing with motherfuckers.
[00:10:39] Because that's the biggest mistake people make about me.
[00:10:41] Oh, you seem so outgoing and friendly.
[00:10:45] Right.
[00:10:45] Intervert whatever, you know, no, look, I don't like people like that.
[00:10:50] No, and I don't either, but I'm still able to find my peace because I have set
[00:10:53] my boundaries right up front on how.
[00:10:56] Social than me.
[00:10:58] And I think you are more social than me.
[00:11:01] You're willing to talk to people, you know, chat, chat, he, because I've been a girl.
[00:11:05] Who the fuck you talking to?
[00:11:06] You know, I've been like, I have become very snobby.
[00:11:13] Right.
[00:11:14] When I was socializing and that there's something also I feel like there was a
[00:11:18] lesson that the podcast showed us right because you allow too many different
[00:11:23] people around you.
[00:11:24] Yeah, shouldn't be around you exactly entities and energy that should not
[00:11:28] be you should not be react reacting with but I found a lot of peace.
[00:11:34] Yeah, I don't have to sit here.
[00:11:37] Defend my I stopped defending my character a long time ago.
[00:11:40] Yes, it became that was the main thing about that podcast that drained me.
[00:11:45] Yeah, was defending my fucking character.
[00:11:49] Yeah.
[00:11:49] And if you want to piss me off the most is come from my character because
[00:11:53] I'm comfortable and I know who I am.
[00:11:56] Right.
[00:11:56] And I know what a good person I am.
[00:11:58] I may curse a lot.
[00:11:59] That's true.
[00:12:00] I get that.
[00:12:00] I like to smoke me a joint, but you don't know me as a person.
[00:12:04] You know me for 20 30 minutes when we was doing that podcast.
[00:12:09] Right.
[00:12:10] And it was script.
[00:12:11] I'm going off of whatever you looked up.
[00:12:13] Yeah, talking about and how I felt at that moment and to have your
[00:12:18] character assassinated over and over.
[00:12:20] Oh, you messy.
[00:12:23] Or they putting the word gossiping happens from the show attached to
[00:12:27] your name that pissed me off.
[00:12:29] Yeah, it was and it was consistent.
[00:12:32] It was very consistent.
[00:12:33] And I'm like, just because you are dumb or slow, I don't know.
[00:12:38] Maybe maybe cause your mom was a jackal.
[00:12:40] I don't know.
[00:12:41] You don't have human thoughts or feelings to understand.
[00:12:45] They fucking had to go.
[00:12:48] They come from a fucking jackal.
[00:12:53] To know the difference of I'm going off of a script.
[00:12:58] Right.
[00:12:59] This is what we're talking about.
[00:13:00] This is what we're talking about.
[00:13:01] This is not my personal life.
[00:13:04] And I always express how I felt because I don't gay bash.
[00:13:07] I don't do that.
[00:13:08] Right.
[00:13:09] I don't, I always felt like, you know, each and own.
[00:13:12] That's what bless them.
[00:13:13] That's your flavor.
[00:13:14] That's your flavor.
[00:13:14] Let live, let live.
[00:13:15] Right.
[00:13:16] And I'm not going to debate you because you think opposite of me.
[00:13:19] Right.
[00:13:20] And that was another.
[00:13:21] And when if you debate somebody and you tell you, you speak
[00:13:24] truth and they have no rebuttal, all of you are messy evil bitch.
[00:13:28] Right.
[00:13:29] Why?
[00:13:29] Because your ass had no rebuttal.
[00:13:31] You had no comeback.
[00:13:33] Because I spoke truth to you.
[00:13:36] You, you bewildered, you lost you in limbo.
[00:13:39] That's not my problem.
[00:13:41] But you know what?
[00:13:41] I'm glad that this was, you know, pulling the plug was able to give us both a set
[00:13:46] of peace.
[00:13:47] Girl, putting a plug made me squirt.
[00:13:49] Okay.
[00:13:49] Okay.
[00:13:50] All these walls to all these niggas, oh, all these colors fall.
[00:13:56] Yeah.
[00:13:56] That's what it did pulling the plug for me.
[00:13:58] It brought me so much joy and I hope it brought, I guarantee you haters, you did
[00:14:04] not get as much joy as I did when you found out about it.
[00:14:08] Because I know a lot of people celebrated by celebrated bigger and better than
[00:14:13] you.
[00:14:15] I was so happy to have my freedom.
[00:14:17] Now I can focus on the shit I really wanted to do.
[00:14:22] And for which is with hair and I don't want to talk.
[00:14:24] I've learned my lesson about speaking out before what happened.
[00:14:28] Yeah, yeah.
[00:14:29] And I do feel like a swami we was talking to one of them.
[00:14:34] I talked about a raise and you know, shit went south.
[00:14:38] So I learned.
[00:14:41] What you learn my lesson about talking about shit too soon.
[00:14:48] But I will say I've got a lot of shit in my works that brings me joy that I
[00:14:55] like.
[00:14:57] That I'm doing.
[00:15:02] Now we touched a little bit on, you know how life has changed and your
[00:15:05] piece has been granted since we've entered the podcast.
[00:15:09] So I mean, I know how you feel, but let the people know how you feel
[00:15:12] that you no longer have to be a cohost on the gospel.
[00:15:17] I want to be free.
[00:15:23] Yeah, I can think of many songs that come to my head.
[00:15:28] Ain't nobody.
[00:15:32] What?
[00:15:36] Oh, what's coming on freedom freedom.
[00:15:39] Is that how you gonna express your freedom?
[00:15:43] I will use Kamala Harris's record on freedom from beyond.
[00:15:48] So why can't we have a book?
[00:15:50] Are you going to have a Spotify playlist of your freedom?
[00:15:54] I need to and that's going with the first one because when it's
[00:15:57] on quit on themselves, baby, I feel the fact because I have so much on my
[00:16:06] plate.
[00:16:07] I really do.
[00:16:08] Yeah, you do.
[00:16:09] And I don't think people understand the shit I have on my plate.
[00:16:12] Right.
[00:16:13] You working on your off days sometimes.
[00:16:16] Right.
[00:16:16] You're cooking and cleaning and trust me, I cook and clean my
[00:16:19] ass off.
[00:16:20] Yeah, you do.
[00:16:21] I'm good at what the fuck I do and I pour as much love into my
[00:16:25] family because my family is first home is first foundation
[00:16:28] gotta be foundation.
[00:16:30] That's whether it was just my family and God forbid if I get
[00:16:34] married, I'm gonna be like my mama.
[00:16:35] Don't fuck with my foundation.
[00:16:36] Right.
[00:16:37] Okay.
[00:16:38] Do not fuck with my foundation.
[00:16:40] That's it.
[00:16:41] That is where my spirit, my love and my heart is at my
[00:16:46] foundation.
[00:16:47] And when you have all that on you and then you got to go in
[00:16:50] and mix with people that you don't have to really deal with.
[00:16:53] Yeah.
[00:16:54] It's a choice or necessity.
[00:16:56] Oh my God, it's a blessing.
[00:16:58] No, it really is because I didn't realize that because
[00:17:01] I didn't start the podcast to almost a year that we pulled
[00:17:07] the plug on the gossip and heffa.
[00:17:08] And I mean, I was enjoying the piece.
[00:17:10] I was enjoying the and but I was also missing it and I
[00:17:15] was in your ear.
[00:17:16] Why don't you just start your own shit?
[00:17:17] Yeah.
[00:17:18] And at first Michelle was like, no, I'm good.
[00:17:21] And then she's like, Rocky, how would you feel if I
[00:17:24] did?
[00:17:25] I kind of want to start my own podcast.
[00:17:27] Right.
[00:17:27] Right.
[00:17:28] Would you feel funny about it?
[00:17:29] And I told her yes or no.
[00:17:31] Yeah.
[00:17:32] It was it was a mixed review.
[00:17:33] It was a mixed feeling for me because I know I was I feel
[00:17:39] like I was your crutch at that time.
[00:17:40] Right.
[00:17:41] And now this crutch has been leaned against the wall in
[00:17:43] the closet.
[00:17:44] Yeah.
[00:17:45] I don't need you right now no more.
[00:17:46] And it's a good feeling.
[00:17:48] And it's like, yeah.
[00:17:49] I mean, that's why I was kind of a little hesitant on
[00:17:53] getting started not too quickly after we pulled the plug.
[00:17:57] You took your time and I appreciate that you asked me how
[00:18:00] I felt.
[00:18:01] Yeah.
[00:18:01] And I told you how I felt because I want you to win bitch.
[00:18:05] I know you do.
[00:18:05] And I feel like you could have won earlier if you did this
[00:18:09] earlier.
[00:18:10] Yeah.
[00:18:10] But like our girl Jules said everything was in timing.
[00:18:13] Right.
[00:18:13] And maybe it was maybe you needed me as a crutch for
[00:18:16] that time.
[00:18:17] Yeah.
[00:18:17] That was my duty as a sister to help you get over
[00:18:21] that crutch and get over the fear of doing it by
[00:18:23] yourself.
[00:18:24] Yeah.
[00:18:24] And I'm proud of you.
[00:18:25] I appreciate that.
[00:18:27] You doing it and you doing a good job.
[00:18:28] You buy past niggas that's already had podcasts out for
[00:18:31] a couple of years and they did shit because I know
[00:18:35] but I know your workmanship and I know Michelle is
[00:18:38] very Michelle got to have Virgo in that chart later
[00:18:42] on somewhere down because she's a perfectionist.
[00:18:45] Yeah.
[00:18:45] You know, and you were perfectionist with shit
[00:18:47] you love.
[00:18:48] I was not a perfectionist when it came to the
[00:18:50] gossip.
[00:18:50] Perhaps because it was not something I loved.
[00:18:51] That was not your path.
[00:18:52] And that's why I felt you could have moved faster
[00:18:56] without me.
[00:18:57] Yeah.
[00:18:58] I was a crutch but I was also a wait if you get
[00:19:01] what I'm saying.
[00:19:02] No, I do.
[00:19:02] Because I really didn't want to do it.
[00:19:05] Right.
[00:19:05] My heart wasn't in it and I wasn't going to put
[00:19:07] my heart in it like you was putting your heart
[00:19:09] in it.
[00:19:09] Yeah.
[00:19:10] And you put a lot in it.
[00:19:11] I just showed up with an attitude sometimes.
[00:19:15] Sometimes in the good book.
[00:19:17] Bitch, what we talking about?
[00:19:18] You know, that was me.
[00:19:20] That was my attitude.
[00:19:21] So that's why I'm so proud of my sister.
[00:19:23] Oh.
[00:19:24] For doing her own thing and you are going to win.
[00:19:27] You are going to do big shit.
[00:19:29] And you're going to be so much further.
[00:19:32] We may have missed two or three years.
[00:19:34] Yeah.
[00:19:34] But bitch, them two or three years is going to
[00:19:36] catch up.
[00:19:36] It's going to be six years all in just three
[00:19:39] years.
[00:19:39] And then that's a good thing.
[00:19:40] I appreciate your support.
[00:19:42] You've always been supportive.
[00:19:43] Always cheer me on about being independent
[00:19:45] when I do this.
[00:19:46] But at the same time, I really feel
[00:19:49] differently.
[00:19:50] It's like a different vibe now because I don't
[00:19:54] have to make you feel like you're obligated to
[00:19:56] do that.
[00:19:56] And you got total control.
[00:19:58] And I have total control.
[00:19:59] Because I was like, bitch, I don't want to talk about
[00:20:01] that.
[00:20:01] That's that shit corny.
[00:20:03] I don't want to talk to Dems.
[00:20:08] So it's like Michelle has total control.
[00:20:10] She don't have to worry about what's being
[00:20:13] said.
[00:20:14] But I do feel what was done in the gospel
[00:20:17] purpose has helped you in this podcast that you
[00:20:20] got on your own.
[00:20:21] You know, I was just about to say it was seven
[00:20:23] stones boot camp.
[00:20:25] It was it was podcast boot camp because we had
[00:20:28] a lot of ups.
[00:20:29] We had a lot of downs, different experiences.
[00:20:31] I was able to expand my knowledge and
[00:20:35] podcasting by, you know, going to YouTube
[00:20:37] University.
[00:20:38] Oh, you learned a lot.
[00:20:39] You did a lot.
[00:20:40] Yeah.
[00:20:40] This podcast.
[00:20:41] Yeah.
[00:20:41] And I know even though the name was very
[00:20:46] hip to people, rememberable.
[00:20:49] But I also feel like even though I came up with
[00:20:51] the name, I will say I felt the name hindered
[00:20:54] us to do it.
[00:20:55] It did.
[00:20:55] It was a it was a fun funny name.
[00:20:58] Unforgettable, but it caused drama.
[00:21:01] Yeah.
[00:21:01] And it also caused people to be like, God,
[00:21:04] some have is I don't want to talk to them.
[00:21:06] Right.
[00:21:07] I feel like with this podcast you have now
[00:21:09] in the name you have now.
[00:21:10] Yeah.
[00:21:11] That I also helped with.
[00:21:12] You did.
[00:21:13] You did.
[00:21:14] Because you was going to go with something else.
[00:21:15] And I said, first of all, bitch, no, right?
[00:21:18] I think you and your girl, you and our girl came
[00:21:20] up with just Michelle.
[00:21:22] I said, no, because see that sounds like
[00:21:23] you personally saying, yeah, I kicked that bitch
[00:21:25] to the side.
[00:21:26] Oh, that's what we are thinking.
[00:21:27] And when I listened to your concerns, I
[00:21:28] definitely 100% agree with what you broke
[00:21:31] down.
[00:21:31] Yeah.
[00:21:31] Yeah.
[00:21:32] Rocky not here is just me bitches.
[00:21:35] This is what we now.
[00:21:38] That's what we now fit into because
[00:21:40] that's going to also feed into the haters
[00:21:42] that thought we fell out.
[00:21:43] Yes, yes.
[00:21:44] Exactly.
[00:21:45] I didn't like the name.
[00:21:46] Right.
[00:21:46] And you know me and my sister, we are movie
[00:21:49] fanatics.
[00:21:50] And I said, how about talk to me?
[00:21:53] Right.
[00:21:53] And I got that from our movie, P.D.
[00:21:55] Green.
[00:21:56] P.D. Green.
[00:21:57] It came from P.D.
[00:21:58] Green and you put a personal
[00:22:01] spin on it.
[00:22:02] Michelle.
[00:22:03] Right.
[00:22:03] Talk to me, Michelle.
[00:22:05] Yeah.
[00:22:05] And I liked it a lot better.
[00:22:07] Yeah.
[00:22:07] Because it wasn't a personal offense to me
[00:22:09] because you know, I tell people I'm a
[00:22:11] sensitive gangster.
[00:22:11] Right.
[00:22:12] But at the same time, you are absolutely right
[00:22:15] because that would have been if I had gone
[00:22:18] that path, it would have been a element
[00:22:21] for the haters to validate themselves
[00:22:24] and whatever they had to say about us,
[00:22:25] which was nonsense.
[00:22:26] 1111.
[00:22:27] Okay.
[00:22:27] 1111 angel numbers.
[00:22:29] Amen.
[00:22:30] But I'm glad that you have found peace
[00:22:31] and that you've found a passion because
[00:22:34] now you are able to explore your own
[00:22:36] passion for hair and do your own thing.
[00:22:39] You know, I think.
[00:22:42] Only with, you know, August 8th,
[00:22:44] you know, the eighth, eighth of Linesgate,
[00:22:46] we did our little ceremony.
[00:22:47] Right.
[00:22:48] And I really think that things are,
[00:22:50] we've, we've did a lot of changes
[00:22:51] besides letting go of the podcast.
[00:22:54] Yeah.
[00:22:54] Me working with someone else and me
[00:22:56] doing my own thing that I'm going
[00:22:58] to be doing.
[00:22:59] Yeah.
[00:22:59] You doing your own thing.
[00:23:00] I really feel we're on the life path
[00:23:02] that we were intended, you know,
[00:23:04] and I can't say I regret everything
[00:23:06] we went through because as a
[00:23:09] spiritual person, I feel like
[00:23:11] God, our saints, our deities
[00:23:14] have to test you to move you on
[00:23:16] to the next level.
[00:23:17] Next chapter, exactly.
[00:23:19] And for you to move to the next chapter,
[00:23:20] you have to have lessons.
[00:23:22] You have to do sacrifices
[00:23:24] and you, we both did all that.
[00:23:26] We, yes, definitely.
[00:23:28] I show, I showed my sisterhood.
[00:23:30] Yeah.
[00:23:31] And I will show it again whenever
[00:23:33] you need it because you know,
[00:23:34] I'm always fucking be there,
[00:23:35] especially for my vice versa.
[00:23:37] For my baby.
[00:23:38] Mm hmm.
[00:23:39] Because I'll tell anybody when it
[00:23:40] comes to my foundation,
[00:23:41] my family, I will smile in a mugshot.
[00:23:45] But matter of fact,
[00:23:46] since you're going to smile in mugshots
[00:23:48] before we move on to the next topic,
[00:23:50] you are now an aunt.
[00:23:53] And the thing about you being
[00:23:55] an aunt is such a special bond
[00:23:57] that I so appreciate that you have
[00:23:59] with Kevin.
[00:24:01] That's my baby.
[00:24:01] And how has being an aunt
[00:24:03] changed you as a person?
[00:24:06] You know,
[00:24:07] being an auntie is totally different
[00:24:09] because I've been a godmother.
[00:24:10] Yeah.
[00:24:11] I've been a godmother.
[00:24:12] I raised Trey, Trey Trey.
[00:24:16] And you know, that was a beautiful thing,
[00:24:18] but there's something about when your
[00:24:20] sister gives you a baby
[00:24:22] and it looks just like you.
[00:24:23] Mm hmm.
[00:24:24] It girl,
[00:24:25] and you see yourself in them.
[00:24:27] Yeah.
[00:24:28] And Kevin has so many traits.
[00:24:30] Kevin looks like me and Granddaddy.
[00:24:33] Yeah, he does.
[00:24:34] I mean, I did it.
[00:24:36] You could definitely tell that your child's still though.
[00:24:38] Right.
[00:24:39] Because you got, you know, we both got
[00:24:40] of both parents,
[00:24:42] but I took on more of daddy's
[00:24:44] and I'll never forget when a woman
[00:24:46] asked me how old Kevin was and I told her,
[00:24:48] you know, how old is your son?
[00:24:49] I said this is not my son.
[00:24:50] The bitch got mad with me
[00:24:51] because he looks so much like me.
[00:24:53] She thought I was denying my child.
[00:24:55] Right.
[00:24:56] I've always loved that baby
[00:24:57] before he got here.
[00:24:58] You have.
[00:24:59] You have.
[00:25:00] And when I tell you,
[00:25:04] I can't express what I would do.
[00:25:06] I will walk through hell for that boy.
[00:25:09] Yeah.
[00:25:09] And come back.
[00:25:10] Yeah.
[00:25:11] That's the same I do for y'all though too.
[00:25:13] I will walk through hell from you and daddy
[00:25:15] and mama,
[00:25:17] but mama she good.
[00:25:19] Yeah.
[00:25:20] But being an auntie is special.
[00:25:22] The fun thing about being an auntie though
[00:25:24] is that you ain't really got to do the raising.
[00:25:27] You do more of the spoiling.
[00:25:29] Right.
[00:25:32] That's the fun.
[00:25:33] I have so many, you know,
[00:25:35] my favorite memory of Kevin besides
[00:25:38] my favorite one is the Christmas one.
[00:25:40] Oh God.
[00:25:41] It was a toddler and I love shopping for Kevin.
[00:25:44] Oh my God.
[00:25:45] That was my joy.
[00:25:46] Mm hmm.
[00:25:47] And I had brought Kevin a green.
[00:25:50] It was like an army green.
[00:25:54] Quartoroid set.
[00:25:55] Yes.
[00:25:56] I remember this.
[00:25:56] It was on the overalls with a cute little light shirt.
[00:26:00] With the jacket with the little
[00:26:02] little bit of skin.
[00:26:03] Yeah.
[00:26:03] The sheepskin inside of it.
[00:26:05] I had this little rotten ass nigga.
[00:26:08] In his car seat in the front seat during Christmas
[00:26:12] we had just left the record store.
[00:26:14] They used to have record stores.
[00:26:15] They don't have them like that.
[00:26:16] Right.
[00:26:17] And I had just bought Alvin in the chipmunks Christmas.
[00:26:19] Yes.
[00:26:20] And Kevin was at Alvin in the chipmunks.
[00:26:23] Fanatic.
[00:26:24] Fanatic.
[00:26:24] Yes.
[00:26:25] Remember he was a toddler.
[00:26:26] He really wanted to talk a lot.
[00:26:27] Right.
[00:26:27] It was TT in point in his sheet.
[00:26:31] Right.
[00:26:31] This boy was in the front seat with that cute ass
[00:26:33] Quartoroid with a candy cane bigger than him.
[00:26:36] Because I'm auntie.
[00:26:37] That's what I do.
[00:26:38] It was this nigga was jamma to some God damn chipmunks
[00:26:42] chipmunks.
[00:26:43] Not his head when it looked cute matching Alvin on
[00:26:47] looking clean and cute.
[00:26:48] And I never forget a car pulled up beside me.
[00:26:50] Looked in a fell out laughing.
[00:26:52] Mm hmm.
[00:26:54] And I remember too during that time when Kevin
[00:26:57] was born a lot of kids in Memphis I'm sure was
[00:26:59] across other states were being left in cars.
[00:27:03] Yeah.
[00:27:04] Even though I was running that store that baby
[00:27:07] wasn't finished sitting in that car.
[00:27:08] Kevin was everywhere I went.
[00:27:11] I think I'm you know the biggest thing another
[00:27:13] thing I think about is when I was doing here
[00:27:15] at the house in Memphis and Kevin again
[00:27:18] was still in pull ups and he was going
[00:27:21] through his jungle theme.
[00:27:22] He loved animals.
[00:27:23] Yes.
[00:27:23] I remember the the the go Diego go go.
[00:27:26] Diego anything they had to do with animals
[00:27:28] or dinosaurs Kevin was like that's my shit.
[00:27:32] And Kevin was taking a nap and I remember
[00:27:35] putting him on an air mattress in the big
[00:27:37] dining room living room.
[00:27:38] Yeah.
[00:27:39] Dining room in Memphis with a big screen TV.
[00:27:42] I made sure by the time he got up I know
[00:27:45] I'm extra fuck y'all okay.
[00:27:46] I don't care what y'all say I'm extra on T.
[00:27:49] So while he was asleep I pulled all the
[00:27:51] fake plants around his little air mattress.
[00:27:53] I put all his animal stuffed animals around.
[00:27:57] I made it look like a jungle right and I
[00:27:59] remember putting the gas car on I believe
[00:28:01] it was it was an animal theme show.
[00:28:04] I'll never forget his face when he woke
[00:28:07] up in the middle of the jungle.
[00:28:09] It was so much love and surprise you
[00:28:13] know there's nothing more pleasure than
[00:28:15] seeing a child's reaction to shit.
[00:28:17] Yes.
[00:28:18] Yes.
[00:28:19] And now that I think that we tell my
[00:28:21] auntie shit I'm gonna go to bitch I'm
[00:28:23] gonna go down because not only that
[00:28:26] get the joy for that.
[00:28:27] I also got the joy I mean we had a
[00:28:30] winter storm it was Kevin's second
[00:28:33] Christmas.
[00:28:34] Yeah.
[00:28:34] Because his first Christmas we were
[00:28:36] all living we were all living together
[00:28:37] mom dad you and me right and Christmas
[00:28:39] was cool I remember that boy crawling
[00:28:41] over me to his toys and we overdid it
[00:28:44] yes we did he was the only grand baby
[00:28:46] the only nephew we overdid it but I
[00:28:49] overdid it by myself his second
[00:28:51] Christmas yes you was living on windy
[00:28:53] yeah I was living on windy and it was a
[00:28:56] snowstorm so Michelle was like 15
[00:28:58] minutes away from us.
[00:28:59] Yeah.
[00:29:01] Bitch I drove an hour because I had to
[00:29:04] drive slow because the roads was iced up
[00:29:06] anybody knows anything about Memphis
[00:29:08] yeah it was iced over and the roads
[00:29:11] were closed.
[00:29:11] Yep that's the situation every time
[00:29:14] it gets ice and I had my car was
[00:29:19] with the extra fog lights you know
[00:29:22] you looking for Lady Tiger?
[00:29:24] Stupid ass.
[00:29:24] I'm the Lady Tiger driving okay.
[00:29:28] I had a trunk full of presents I had
[00:29:31] bought so much shit for my nephew and
[00:29:35] then I bought I brought I packed up
[00:29:36] whatever mom and dad had right I made
[00:29:40] sure my nephew had his fucking
[00:29:41] Christmas.
[00:29:42] No you did you were there bright and
[00:29:44] early in the morning?
[00:29:44] I left early and you know I'm not
[00:29:47] a morning person.
[00:29:47] No you are not you are not.
[00:29:49] But when it came to my nephew you got
[00:29:52] it done.
[00:29:52] I was like your boy hell sleet of
[00:29:56] snow.
[00:29:56] Yeah.
[00:29:57] Bitch better have my mother.
[00:30:01] That's what I was like when it
[00:30:02] cut my nephew don't play with me
[00:30:05] when it comes to my nephew I
[00:30:07] remember you telling the school
[00:30:08] don't call his uncle.
[00:30:09] Don't call that heifer don't
[00:30:11] call her because I'm telling you
[00:30:13] what to call the police after you
[00:30:14] call her because now they don't
[00:30:16] call the ambulance and the police
[00:30:18] yeah cuz I'm gonna go up there and
[00:30:20] do what I gotta do by the time you
[00:30:22] find out it's too late every time
[00:30:24] I picture you going to handle a
[00:30:26] situation at Kevin's school.
[00:30:27] Hands at rock the cradle?
[00:30:28] Yeah hands that rock the cradle
[00:30:30] scene when she approached that
[00:30:31] boy on the playground always
[00:30:33] flashes in my mind.
[00:30:35] I don't know what go through people
[00:30:36] mind when y'all fuck with people's
[00:30:38] children because you don't
[00:30:44] realize you got aunties and
[00:30:45] parents that are crazier we hide
[00:30:48] our crazy we've learned to deal
[00:30:50] with the with the natural order of
[00:30:52] the world and get through it and
[00:30:55] we don't do the weird shit y'all
[00:30:57] do but we crazy yeah we just
[00:31:00] keep it on the deal like when you
[00:31:01] remember Paul Mooney when he said
[00:31:03] I will cut your head off go to
[00:31:05] a bar and sit you sit your head
[00:31:07] on the table and I have a
[00:31:09] conversation with you and order
[00:31:10] drink for your ass.
[00:31:11] Yeah.
[00:31:13] Don't play with me when it comes
[00:31:14] to mind.
[00:31:16] You know and I will have no
[00:31:17] problem telling the police yeah I
[00:31:19] did it.
[00:31:19] Yeah do it again.
[00:31:21] So what we say but whatever you
[00:31:23] was a summer I'm glad he died
[00:31:25] hoping that it helped me go to
[00:31:26] hell.
[00:31:26] Oh time to kill time to kill.
[00:31:28] I am Samuel Jackson in time
[00:31:30] to kill don't fuck with my
[00:31:32] family.
[00:31:35] So as we close this out let's
[00:31:38] go about our reflections on our
[00:31:41] family influence you know our
[00:31:42] mom and dad had such a major
[00:31:44] impact on our lives and influenced
[00:31:46] both of us independently as
[00:31:48] sisters as women and what are
[00:31:51] some of the experiences and
[00:31:53] lessons learned from both of our
[00:31:54] parents that you carry with you
[00:31:56] to this day.
[00:31:57] Well I'm gonna be honest with
[00:31:58] you I can't just say mom and dad
[00:32:00] right because you was a big
[00:32:02] influence you big sister.
[00:32:05] Oh you big sister so you was
[00:32:07] a big influence on me coming
[00:32:08] up.
[00:32:10] Uncle Dwayne.
[00:32:12] Yeah Sandra.
[00:32:13] Yeah.
[00:32:14] I thank God first of all for coming
[00:32:16] from a strong family.
[00:32:17] Yes.
[00:32:19] Of not just being blessed with a
[00:32:20] two parent home.
[00:32:21] Yeah.
[00:32:22] But a close knit family with
[00:32:24] cousins some assholes some are
[00:32:26] like some you know.
[00:32:31] I'm gonna start off with mama.
[00:32:33] Right.
[00:32:34] There was so much about mama
[00:32:37] that I regret that I I'm
[00:32:39] glad I was able to tell her
[00:32:41] some things that I've respected
[00:32:42] about her because she's no longer
[00:32:44] with us.
[00:32:45] Yes.
[00:32:46] Physically but she's still with
[00:32:48] us.
[00:32:48] Right.
[00:32:49] But there's no other woman like
[00:32:53] mama.
[00:32:54] None.
[00:32:55] None.
[00:32:56] When as an adult and you look
[00:32:58] back on your childhood on who
[00:33:00] kept the house together who
[00:33:04] brought the the energy.
[00:33:08] Yeah.
[00:33:09] The blessings the cooking mama
[00:33:12] did the decorating.
[00:33:14] You know I look at mama as
[00:33:16] when you hear that record
[00:33:18] on every woman that is mama
[00:33:20] that you're rocky.
[00:33:22] That is I'm every woman
[00:33:23] represents my mother.
[00:33:26] Yes.
[00:33:27] Our mother to a T.
[00:33:29] Not only did our mother
[00:33:33] take action in civil rights.
[00:33:37] Yeah.
[00:33:37] She went to jail for a sit in.
[00:33:41] My mother was a teacher.
[00:33:44] My mother was it was a
[00:33:46] decorator.
[00:33:47] Mother was a baker or cooker.
[00:33:50] Mother was a teacher again.
[00:33:52] She was also a nurturer.
[00:33:55] Yes.
[00:33:56] She was a woman that held her
[00:33:58] home her home down with the
[00:33:59] iron fist.
[00:34:00] Our father never came home
[00:34:03] to a dirty house to dirty
[00:34:05] children or children that
[00:34:07] hadn't had a bath already and
[00:34:09] was ready for bed but stayed up
[00:34:10] for them.
[00:34:11] Yeah.
[00:34:13] She made sure our father had
[00:34:15] no worries.
[00:34:16] Yeah.
[00:34:17] Yeah, definitely.
[00:34:18] When you go to our daddy he
[00:34:20] made sure our mother had no
[00:34:21] worries.
[00:34:22] Yeah.
[00:34:23] He loved on mama.
[00:34:24] You know one thing I'm a
[00:34:26] blessing if I never experienced
[00:34:27] I witnessed the best love
[00:34:30] story ever in my life.
[00:34:32] Rocky I say that to this
[00:34:33] day if I don't personally
[00:34:36] experience that we witnessed
[00:34:38] the best love life.
[00:34:40] Yeah, we were blessed to
[00:34:40] witness it that it does
[00:34:42] exist.
[00:34:45] It don't exist in our time.
[00:34:49] I was getting emotional thinking
[00:34:51] my mom and daddy but when it
[00:34:53] comes to my daddy and this is
[00:34:55] why I don't allow people to
[00:34:56] talk about black men because
[00:34:58] I don't know the black man
[00:34:59] they talking about when it
[00:35:00] comes to my family foundation
[00:35:02] from my father to my uncles
[00:35:03] to my granddaddy to my
[00:35:05] cousins.
[00:35:05] I don't know those black men
[00:35:07] that you're talking about.
[00:35:08] That you're talking badly about.
[00:35:09] My father was a provider.
[00:35:11] Yeah.
[00:35:12] My father was a protector.
[00:35:13] Mm-hmm.
[00:35:14] My father would fuck you up if
[00:35:16] you came for his family.
[00:35:17] My mother would fuck you up
[00:35:18] if you came for her family.
[00:35:19] Yep.
[00:35:20] They were family oriented.
[00:35:22] Yes, we witnessed the
[00:35:23] struggles of marriage.
[00:35:24] This is why I know
[00:35:25] marriage is not a fairy
[00:35:27] tale.
[00:35:27] Yeah.
[00:35:28] But I also witnessed the
[00:35:30] benefits and the blessings that
[00:35:32] marriage has.
[00:35:32] Yes.
[00:35:33] And I respect it.
[00:35:34] Mm-hmm.
[00:35:35] Because my mother and father
[00:35:36] showed that.
[00:35:37] Yeah, they definitely did.
[00:35:38] And they showed us family
[00:35:40] values.
[00:35:41] Our grandparents.
[00:35:42] Yep.
[00:35:43] Showed us the same.
[00:35:45] Our grandmothers don't want
[00:35:46] to introduce us to God.
[00:35:48] Okay.
[00:35:49] There was never a...
[00:35:51] I could complain about,
[00:35:53] oh yeah, I was talked over
[00:35:54] as a child.
[00:35:55] I cannot tell you I wasn't
[00:35:56] loved though as a child.
[00:35:58] And that's what people fail
[00:36:00] to realize on how family
[00:36:01] influences and lessons and the
[00:36:04] stuff that they provided beside
[00:36:06] the materialistic items that
[00:36:07] the security we have as a family
[00:36:10] and the influence that both
[00:36:12] our mother and our father gave
[00:36:14] us.
[00:36:14] And I agree with you because
[00:36:17] when our mother passed,
[00:36:19] it was difficult to realize
[00:36:22] at that point all that she
[00:36:25] contributed, all that she
[00:36:26] sacrificed.
[00:36:27] You took...
[00:36:28] You know, the sad thing is
[00:36:30] we don't give flowers like
[00:36:31] colors always say.
[00:36:33] We didn't give flowers while
[00:36:34] we're here.
[00:36:36] And you realize the guilt
[00:36:38] when people believe of what
[00:36:40] you had.
[00:36:41] Right.
[00:36:42] Because it's gone gone.
[00:36:43] Right.
[00:36:43] When someone crossed over,
[00:36:44] it's gone gone.
[00:36:45] Right.
[00:36:46] This ain't a breakup.
[00:36:47] You may pass them in the
[00:36:48] street.
[00:36:48] Right.
[00:36:49] This is it.
[00:36:50] That's it.
[00:36:51] And then when you look at
[00:36:52] my mother being a sick...
[00:36:54] My mother, because my father
[00:36:57] asked to give up your
[00:36:59] career to protect our daughters.
[00:37:03] And as a woman,
[00:37:04] my mother agreed.
[00:37:05] And you know when I talked to
[00:37:06] dad in season one and it was
[00:37:10] in the second episode with him
[00:37:11] that he really expressed
[00:37:14] what a foundation she said,
[00:37:17] what a security blanket she
[00:37:19] was for...
[00:37:20] She was not us.
[00:37:21] She was not him but us as
[00:37:22] well.
[00:37:23] Yeah.
[00:37:23] So when people don't realize
[00:37:25] why we are so connected with
[00:37:28] our parents and why we will not
[00:37:31] leave our father...
[00:37:33] Oh fuck y'all if you think I
[00:37:34] supposed to.
[00:37:35] You know, I don't give a damn
[00:37:37] of what other people's
[00:37:38] opinions are because you know
[00:37:39] people look at a situation
[00:37:40] and make assumptions but at
[00:37:42] the same time I'm so sorry
[00:37:44] for you because you don't have
[00:37:47] that connection with your own
[00:37:48] family.
[00:37:49] Exactly.
[00:37:50] So since you don't have
[00:37:51] that I'm not going to go
[00:37:53] back and forth with you on why
[00:37:54] I'm going to make sure as long
[00:37:56] as I have breath in my body that
[00:37:58] our father is good.
[00:38:00] And my sister is good,
[00:38:02] my nephew is good.
[00:38:03] And you good and he's good.
[00:38:04] But this is the one thing about
[00:38:06] people you know for one thing
[00:38:08] I'm sorry you didn't have the
[00:38:09] same experience.
[00:38:10] Let me start off with that.
[00:38:12] Yeah.
[00:38:12] Because that's the first part
[00:38:13] you didn't have that father
[00:38:15] you didn't have that mother
[00:38:18] you didn't have that motherly
[00:38:19] love you didn't get that
[00:38:20] motherly hug you didn't have
[00:38:22] that motherly friendship that
[00:38:24] we had.
[00:38:24] Exactly.
[00:38:25] Because we can count on
[00:38:27] multiple times whenever daddy
[00:38:29] went out of town.
[00:38:29] We didn't go to school because
[00:38:31] mama was like I'm going to kick
[00:38:32] it with my girls.
[00:38:33] Yes.
[00:38:34] Mama loved hanging with her
[00:38:36] girls and we loved it and my
[00:38:38] mama gave us so many fond
[00:38:40] memories of just getting our
[00:38:42] nails done going out to
[00:38:44] lunch shopping and we were
[00:38:46] some shopping motherfuckers.
[00:38:47] Yeah.
[00:38:48] Mama love to shop.
[00:38:49] Okay.
[00:38:49] That was like a moment in
[00:38:51] Beverly Hills hanging out with
[00:38:54] mama because she would do
[00:38:55] always she would always did
[00:38:57] and she would trick you like
[00:38:58] you you want to go to Birkin
[00:38:59] with that girl you know I got
[00:39:00] some bee patties at the house
[00:39:02] while you play with me.
[00:39:03] Now mama did do this shit
[00:39:05] while you play it.
[00:39:07] You know you had that Eddie
[00:39:08] Murphy.
[00:39:08] Yeah.
[00:39:09] I want to make God knows.
[00:39:11] Yeah.
[00:39:12] So mama did do that but mama
[00:39:14] was oh my god what I would
[00:39:15] meet people later on as I
[00:39:17] got older and I will see
[00:39:19] damn my mama's the bomb.
[00:39:20] Yeah.
[00:39:21] Because mama that's why I
[00:39:22] said when I think of I'm
[00:39:23] every woman that is my mother.
[00:39:25] Yeah.
[00:39:26] And I'm so grateful that daddy
[00:39:28] understands what he had.
[00:39:30] Yeah.
[00:39:31] And he appreciates her to this
[00:39:33] day and he appreciates us as
[00:39:34] his daughters as we appreciate
[00:39:36] him as our father and daddy
[00:39:38] loves to say that's that's
[00:39:40] your mama.
[00:39:41] Right.
[00:39:42] I would like to make a
[00:39:43] marriage.
[00:39:43] What you say.
[00:39:45] You know this is why
[00:39:47] I'll never forget what
[00:39:48] Denzel said and I'm not
[00:39:50] getting off subject but
[00:39:52] you know you may the
[00:39:54] care you marry a woman
[00:39:56] not for her looks
[00:39:58] because her character is was
[00:40:00] raising your children.
[00:40:01] Yes.
[00:40:03] Her character my mother's
[00:40:05] character was a one.
[00:40:07] Yes it was.
[00:40:08] She was genuine.
[00:40:09] Mm hmm.
[00:40:10] My daddy was a genuine
[00:40:11] asshole and I say that with
[00:40:13] all respect.
[00:40:14] Because.
[00:40:17] My dad our daddy love
[00:40:19] hard but my father is a
[00:40:21] genuine asshole.
[00:40:22] Right.
[00:40:22] Right.
[00:40:23] July 1st.
[00:40:24] Yes.
[00:40:24] And he has a lot of
[00:40:26] asshole qualities.
[00:40:27] Mm hmm.
[00:40:28] But his asshole qualities are
[00:40:31] not meant to be asshole is
[00:40:32] meant with love.
[00:40:34] You know it is.
[00:40:35] He has a harsh he's a
[00:40:36] harsh hand when it comes
[00:40:37] to love.
[00:40:37] It wasn't until mama's
[00:40:39] passing we realized all the
[00:40:42] things she did for him as a
[00:40:44] wife.
[00:40:45] Not only that how I miss
[00:40:47] having that woman connection
[00:40:49] conversation.
[00:40:50] Yes.
[00:40:50] Oh my god.
[00:40:51] You had someone to talk to
[00:40:53] about a relationship or a
[00:40:55] friendship that one I remember
[00:40:56] gossiping with mama and talking
[00:40:58] to mama about all that shit
[00:40:59] all the time.
[00:41:00] And but I also knew because
[00:41:02] mama loved her mama's
[00:41:03] is that's one thing I got
[00:41:05] what about with mama don't
[00:41:07] fuck on my foundation.
[00:41:08] Right.
[00:41:09] Because my mother was a
[00:41:10] southern bail.
[00:41:11] Yeah.
[00:41:11] She would greet you with
[00:41:12] food and love but you
[00:41:13] fuck with a family she will
[00:41:15] cut you.
[00:41:15] Yeah.
[00:41:16] That north side come out baby.
[00:41:17] No baby.
[00:41:19] That's what homes will come
[00:41:20] out mama was from food homes
[00:41:22] in Memphis.
[00:41:23] Okay.
[00:41:23] And that's before and I always
[00:41:25] like to say when mama and daddy
[00:41:27] was coming up it wasn't the
[00:41:29] hood it was just you know it
[00:41:30] was just it was just you know
[00:41:32] neighborhood up class ghetto
[00:41:35] right.
[00:41:36] Yeah.
[00:41:36] Up the ghetto.
[00:41:37] That's what it was.
[00:41:38] Mama Mama's time was up
[00:41:39] the ghetto now was the hood
[00:41:41] is six a read now you know
[00:41:43] watch out because lip gloss
[00:41:45] with God and really may hit you.
[00:41:46] It's terrible out here is terrible
[00:41:48] I tell you but um
[00:41:54] you know this will happen
[00:41:55] by the time I talk about other
[00:41:56] shit that I got to get with the
[00:41:57] fuck I was talking about
[00:41:59] and I haven't won the moments
[00:42:00] right now but I know I was
[00:42:03] talking about my mama and what
[00:42:04] a glorious woman but I you know
[00:42:06] what and I get personal right
[00:42:09] now because I remember being
[00:42:11] on the treadmill who was in
[00:42:12] Texas and I'm so glad I got
[00:42:14] this off my chest because we
[00:42:15] don't tell people how proud
[00:42:16] we are.
[00:42:17] Yeah.
[00:42:18] Or and I told mama and I had to
[00:42:20] stop talking with her because
[00:42:21] tears came out right and it was
[00:42:23] a time of separation.
[00:42:25] Okay and with our mother and
[00:42:27] father relationships are hard
[00:42:29] they're not easy exactly but
[00:42:30] they came back together thank God
[00:42:32] amen but I told mama that day
[00:42:36] on Sterling how much I
[00:42:39] respected her that day I said
[00:42:42] I never had as much respect for
[00:42:44] you mama when I saw you pick
[00:42:47] your kids up with the clothes
[00:42:49] on your back and you move back
[00:42:51] home with your mama and Memphis
[00:42:53] and God has a plan for everything
[00:42:55] because we had so much spiritual
[00:42:57] growth and getting to know God
[00:42:59] and also being with granddad
[00:43:00] before he passed.
[00:43:02] Yeah.
[00:43:02] We had those like because like
[00:43:04] I said nothing's a mistake.
[00:43:05] Right.
[00:43:06] Nothing's a mistake.
[00:43:07] I don't believe in that
[00:43:09] everything is there for a reason
[00:43:11] people time situations are for
[00:43:15] your growth and Memphis at that
[00:43:18] time was for growth.
[00:43:19] Definitely.
[00:43:20] Definitely because I watched my
[00:43:22] mother be a single mother be
[00:43:24] a be a single mom.
[00:43:26] Yeah.
[00:43:26] Overnight.
[00:43:27] Yeah.
[00:43:28] Yeah.
[00:43:29] It wasn't a year before mama
[00:43:31] had a job it wasn't a year
[00:43:33] before she had her own house
[00:43:34] yep spiegel I love that house
[00:43:37] that house was man it was a
[00:43:39] one level house it was
[00:43:40] quaint it was what you needed
[00:43:42] yeah it wasn't fancy
[00:43:44] but it wasn't broken looking.
[00:43:46] Right.
[00:43:47] Mama got that house.
[00:43:48] She did she did.
[00:43:50] Single mother.
[00:43:52] Mm-hmm.
[00:43:53] Never did I see her crying
[00:43:54] never that here talking about
[00:43:57] our father.
[00:43:58] She never down him in front of
[00:44:01] us never.
[00:44:03] You know and that's the thing
[00:44:04] that kills me about the
[00:44:06] strength of relationships because
[00:44:08] when you do see parents
[00:44:09] not having a situation where it's
[00:44:12] agreeable yeah and they
[00:44:14] publicly we're not even publicly
[00:44:16] but in front of the children
[00:44:18] they discard each other
[00:44:20] disrespect each other and talk
[00:44:22] about each other and we were
[00:44:24] blessed not to have that because
[00:44:26] you would get that bitter
[00:44:27] syndrome that most men or women
[00:44:29] go through when they go through
[00:44:30] a marriage yeah it's not
[00:44:31] working out but at the same
[00:44:34] time we are so blessed we didn't
[00:44:35] have that example so we had
[00:44:38] both strong parents and when people
[00:44:40] question our character which is
[00:44:42] never up for question
[00:44:44] you have to look at our foundation
[00:44:47] our foundation comes from strength
[00:44:50] structure structure love
[00:44:53] honor so that's why people
[00:44:56] God amen that's why
[00:44:59] people will never realize the
[00:45:01] foundation and why we are
[00:45:03] the way we are so I
[00:45:05] appreciate you as a sister
[00:45:07] Rocky girl you have given me
[00:45:09] such encouragement
[00:45:12] strength and you have pushed me
[00:45:14] where I need to be pushed I feel
[00:45:16] like in the hour each
[00:45:18] courage and wisdom it's been
[00:45:21] inside of me no I'm blessed
[00:45:23] I'm blessed in so many ways and
[00:45:25] you are definitely one of the
[00:45:26] greatest blessings I have in my life
[00:45:28] even though we have our little
[00:45:30] back and forth you know jiving
[00:45:31] with each other yeah it's you
[00:45:33] being a heifer right exactly yes
[00:45:35] but at the same time I'm so
[00:45:37] thankful for our connection our
[00:45:38] sisterhood our friendship you know
[00:45:41] just our soul connection girl
[00:45:43] we speak girl we can experience
[00:45:47] we're gonna be sister ghost
[00:45:49] and I'm gonna harass you in
[00:45:51] heaven we gonna be like the
[00:45:54] pair and still Magnolias was
[00:45:56] that weza weza yeah we're
[00:45:58] gonna be weza and I know I'm
[00:45:59] gonna be weza right you're
[00:46:01] gonna be the other one bit
[00:46:02] poking the bitch off the
[00:46:03] bench tell my old come on but
[00:46:05] you know what you know Michelle
[00:46:06] you shaped me because you are
[00:46:08] your big sister I've always looked
[00:46:10] up to you I've always respected
[00:46:12] you and I know people
[00:46:14] will confuse me for being a big
[00:46:16] sister cuz I'm so protective
[00:46:18] yeah you are you are kick somebody
[00:46:20] ass would have come to you in my family
[00:46:22] I don't play I don't play
[00:46:25] did God I knew there was
[00:46:27] a God did I see you
[00:46:31] when I open my eyes and see you
[00:46:34] yes lord
[00:46:36] I
[00:46:37] love my family
[00:46:39] I know everything
[00:46:41] my sister did as a kid I wanted
[00:46:43] to do yeah my big sister
[00:46:45] if she was watching Rudolph the
[00:46:47] Reddnald reindeer cuz that was one
[00:46:49] of mama's favorite stories
[00:46:51] mama will tell you I could barely
[00:46:53] walk I had a pest in my mouth but
[00:46:54] my sister was watching Rudolph the
[00:46:56] reindeer for Christmas and
[00:46:59] I scooted myself with my
[00:47:00] pacifier in your favorite rockin chair
[00:47:04] and
[00:47:05] being the big sis you was
[00:47:06] you let me have that rockin chair
[00:47:08] and to watch Rudolph
[00:47:11] I've got y'all don't understand the
[00:47:12] memories I had with my sister yeah
[00:47:14] yeah you will never understand
[00:47:17] the bond if you don't have it and
[00:47:18] again I'm sorry if you'd never had
[00:47:21] it cuz it's
[00:47:23] a big blessing and I also
[00:47:25] think my spirit even though I can't
[00:47:27] understand everything in my spirit but
[00:47:28] I know we always and you know
[00:47:30] I got to bring in my spirituality in here
[00:47:32] of course we gotta
[00:47:34] remember we picked our family yeah
[00:47:37] yeah we picked our family
[00:47:38] we picked up we picked the
[00:47:40] layout of our family yeah we picked
[00:47:42] out the layout if we're poor
[00:47:44] we're rich because your spirit
[00:47:47] needed to grow more
[00:47:48] mm-hmm okay
[00:47:49] so get the lesson
[00:47:52] that you're here for
[00:47:55] whatever karmic
[00:47:56] lesson you have when you come
[00:47:57] back and I do pray this is my last karmic
[00:48:00] you don't want to make another trip
[00:48:02] I don't want to make another trip lord
[00:48:04] God I am so good
[00:48:06] with being somebody's spirit
[00:48:07] guide somebody's
[00:48:09] you know spirit you know whatever
[00:48:11] I'm so good on that
[00:48:13] I pray to the good lurch
[00:48:16] in a leg where I
[00:48:17] have learned my lessons
[00:48:19] and I've received all the karmic
[00:48:22] energy I'm supposed to get
[00:48:24] but we pick our family
[00:48:25] and I truly feel in my
[00:48:28] soul and my spirit you all
[00:48:30] are not just my family on earth
[00:48:31] that you all are my soul tribe
[00:48:34] in heaven amen
[00:48:35] we go back
[00:48:38] girl I'm like that old fucking
[00:48:39] album from TLC
[00:48:41] we go back
[00:48:43] all the way back we go all the way back
[00:48:46] and I'm talking about maybe even biblical times
[00:48:47] do it was part of it when the lord
[00:48:49] was writing the bible ok
[00:48:50] when Jesus was telling you what to put down
[00:48:52] we go back I hope I'm done
[00:48:55] but I truly
[00:48:57] I truly hope
[00:49:00] and saying
[00:49:01] all of this
[00:49:02] if you all have family
[00:49:04] mothers fathers you ain't spoke to
[00:49:08] sisters
[00:49:08] brothers whatever cousins
[00:49:11] aunties uncles that you ain't spoke to
[00:49:13] your ego can't be no bigger than mine
[00:49:15] because I had to do that
[00:49:16] yeah you did when we got to the part
[00:49:18] where we was a week
[00:49:20] two weeks away from mama passing
[00:49:22] and hearing about an uncle being so sick
[00:49:24] I had to
[00:49:26] suck up and put my pride away
[00:49:27] and I don't feel like I did that by myself
[00:49:29] no you didn't I feel like grandma was with us
[00:49:32] glad it's made was family baby
[00:49:35] oh you don't play with family
[00:49:36] y'all gonna stick together
[00:49:38] and eat these neck bones and be happy
[00:49:40] so
[00:49:41] so
[00:49:44] find a way within yourself
[00:49:48] whether you go through therapy
[00:49:49] you do many I suggest
[00:49:51] you do both therapy and meditation
[00:49:53] everything whatever hurt
[00:49:55] whatever pain you got
[00:49:57] this is the family you picked
[00:49:58] the family chose and let
[00:50:00] let God and let love
[00:50:02] let God let love and also
[00:50:05] get to your higher self to find out why you picked them
[00:50:07] cause you picked them
[00:50:10] and it was for your higher self
[00:50:11] yeah
[00:50:12] so instead of playing victim
[00:50:14] and being a victim
[00:50:16] find out why heal yourself
[00:50:18] and do better because I thank God
[00:50:21] for what I picked good
[00:50:22] yeah and I say the same thing about my selection
[00:50:25] I picked good
[00:50:27] I'm grateful for my family
[00:50:28] and I love this big here hope
[00:50:32] big God
[00:50:33] I love her
[00:50:34] I love you too and I thank you
[00:50:36] for coming on here and sharing
[00:50:38] a non-gossiping
[00:50:40] you know format this was lovely
[00:50:42] you know what was so lovely I didn't have to be prepped
[00:50:44] about shit
[00:50:45] you know that was what the guys
[00:50:47] an hour before we were going live
[00:50:50] I would have to be prepped about
[00:50:51] this is what we're talking about
[00:50:53] then we're gonna take a break here
[00:50:56] yeah and then we're gonna do this
[00:50:58] I'm like I don't wanna hear this shit
[00:50:59] well that's why you
[00:51:00] my attention span is very limited
[00:51:02] well now I got a titus pen of a toddler
[00:51:04] now that you don't have to do the gospel
[00:51:06] heaven anymore you can just pop on here
[00:51:08] occasionally and do you
[00:51:10] and I love it
[00:51:11] I will be back miss my titus
[00:51:14] yes my favorite Hootie in the whole wide world
[00:51:17] fuck everybody else over my sister
[00:51:19] I love you
[00:51:20] and Michelle
[00:51:21] you're doing good things you're doing big things
[00:51:24] you about to be blessed
[00:51:26] you about to be covered
[00:51:27] and I thank you for your blessings your support
[00:51:29] and I know the same is coming to you baby sis
[00:51:32] and all I got to say before we end
[00:51:34] get off the corner
[00:51:35] and put the pen down
[00:51:37] good night
[00:51:43] thank you for tuning into part 2 of The Sisters
[00:51:46] and I had to admit
[00:51:47] I titled this two part series
[00:51:50] The Sisters
[00:51:51] cause I was being petty
[00:51:52] not because we're not sisters in reality
[00:51:55] we are
[00:51:56] but because back when people used to talk about the gospel
[00:51:59] and heffa's
[00:52:00] they often used
[00:52:01] The Sisters as a code word
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