In Part 1 of "The Sisters," Michele sits down with her sister and former co-host, Rochele, also known as Rocky. Join them as they take a nostalgic trip down memory lane, sharing childhood stories from Memphis, TN, to Teaneck, New Jersey. The sisters also open up about what led to the end of their popular podcast, The Gossiping Heifers.
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[00:00:50] Welcome to Season 2 of Talk To Me Michele.
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[00:01:10] In this first episode of the season, I am joined by my sister and former co-hosts of the
[00:01:15] Gospinhefus Rochelle, also known as Rocky.
[00:01:19] Now for those who don't know we had an incredible journey producing and hosting the Gospin
[00:01:24] have us together.
[00:01:25] But beyond the public eye, we are sisters with a close bond.
[00:01:29] Rocky just isn't my sister.
[00:01:32] She's my friend.
[00:01:34] She's an amazing aunt to my son, a professional hair stylist and a phenomenal cook.
[00:01:39] Today we're diving into our childhood memories, sharing life lessons and discussing what
[00:01:44] ultimately led to the end of the Gospinhefus.
[00:01:47] Ooh, curious minds want to know.
[00:01:50] So please note there are some mature content in this episode so I'm just letting you know.
[00:01:55] And I usually keep my episode short, but this conversation you guys had to hear all of the conversation.
[00:02:02] The full details.
[00:02:04] So sit back and enjoy part one of the sisters.
[00:02:10] Alright, this is the episode I've been looking forward to doing with my former co-hosts,
[00:02:16] but forever my sister Rochelle aka Rocky isn't a building.
[00:02:27] Made not on the corner.
[00:02:30] I almost didn't know.
[00:02:32] I like your massage, you can stuck in your ears.
[00:02:35] I like it too.
[00:02:36] I appreciate them.
[00:02:38] You guys just liked it too.
[00:02:39] You said yes they do.
[00:02:42] Talk to me my whole chair.
[00:02:46] Hang on on the corner with the street lights out.
[00:02:48] You don't know, don't start breaking down and remix in my theme.
[00:02:53] I think my remix is better but you know,
[00:02:55] we're not doing you booze.
[00:02:59] Dude, make sure you feel more comfortable.
[00:03:00] Well look, I am looking forward to this episode because this is not going to be the former format we
[00:03:06] had. This is on a 100% authentic sisterhood level that we're going to be discussing on this episode.
[00:03:13] And my sisterhood brought me to your platform. Yours alone and I say thank you, Logan.
[00:03:19] Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, and let's walk.
[00:03:24] Thank you, Jewish God.
[00:03:26] Only this who you can make me laugh this way.
[00:03:28] This never be drop of the day.
[00:03:30] Thank you, I love you all.
[00:03:34] Yes, Lord, you're grateful.
[00:03:36] I'm giving it to the lead.
[00:03:38] I want to say Michelle, I'm proud of you.
[00:03:41] Thank you.
[00:03:42] I'm proud that you came out on your own and left me the hell alone.
[00:03:47] Yes, this is what I'm talking about.
[00:03:49] I love it.
[00:03:51] You're doing good.
[00:03:53] You already had what you're over.
[00:03:55] It's just second season.
[00:03:56] Second season?
[00:03:58] You put a promote?
[00:03:59] Yeah, let's go over some childhood memories.
[00:04:02] Oh, that's not it.
[00:04:03] You know, yeah, because we had an awesome childhood.
[00:04:06] We did, but she was a half of it.
[00:04:07] Let's do it. Let's dive in.
[00:04:09] What you want to talk about?
[00:04:10] What part of our childhood would you like to tap on first?
[00:04:14] Well first of all, we were both born and Memphis.
[00:04:17] Memphis and the city.
[00:04:18] Okay?
[00:04:18] Yeah, gang, gang.
[00:04:21] I can't stop my black face.
[00:04:23] Yes, you keep.
[00:04:23] They got that's what we from Memphis.
[00:04:26] Yes, I love Memphis.
[00:04:29] You know, Memphis got great memories for us because
[00:04:32] definitely humble beginnings.
[00:04:35] But we got such a strong foundation in Memphis.
[00:04:38] You know, but side just being born there.
[00:04:40] We went to school there.
[00:04:41] We had some lifetime, some lifetime friends.
[00:04:44] Yeah, I still got some.
[00:04:45] I still got a couple of lifetime friends.
[00:04:47] When we lived in Memphis at the era,
[00:04:49] you told me I was too young to remember.
[00:04:51] So when you start speaking about childhood for memory,
[00:04:54] you know, I go to Chicago and Jersey.
[00:04:57] And then I go back to Memphis when we moved back.
[00:05:00] Exactly.
[00:05:01] Because that was two many, it was two many moons and two many months ago.
[00:05:06] To fumming me remember that part.
[00:05:09] How was your own one?
[00:05:10] Yeah, you were on baby when we first were in Memphis.
[00:05:13] And then we moved, you know, quite a few places.
[00:05:16] But yeah, I do recall being in Chicago, us experience in the deep snow
[00:05:21] and wearing snow suits for the first time.
[00:05:25] Little breeze from the face to the vessel.
[00:05:26] Oh, my mom, great look when we will go outside.
[00:05:30] We love the snow.
[00:05:31] And we had this amazing heel that we would take our sledge just.
[00:05:34] It was awesome.
[00:05:35] And if it wasn't snow, that same field would be full with sunflower.
[00:05:41] Huge ones.
[00:05:42] They were taller than us.
[00:05:44] So beautiful memories on Hawthorne,
[00:05:46] a state was a Hawthorne state.
[00:05:48] It was Hawthorne states that we stayed.
[00:05:49] Yeah, it was.
[00:05:50] Yeah, Hawthorne states it was fun.
[00:05:52] And mama would have, I remember me especially.
[00:05:56] Look at that little boy from the Christmas store.
[00:05:58] Oh, my God.
[00:06:03] Oh, my God.
[00:06:04] You know he couldn't put his arms down.
[00:06:05] I can't put my arms.
[00:06:07] Yeah, yeah.
[00:06:08] So mama would succeed.
[00:06:09] She started off with Greason, both of our faces down.
[00:06:13] Yes.
[00:06:13] And she agrees our hands down.
[00:06:16] Mm-hmm.
[00:06:17] And I don't know why I'm the only one, even focusing my age.
[00:06:19] Don't remember I so gloves.
[00:06:22] I just turned it gloves.
[00:06:23] Yes, nobody remembers these.
[00:06:25] Of course I had to have them and I had them.
[00:06:27] Okay?
[00:06:28] So I would have my snow suit put on first a scarf wrapped around your neck.
[00:06:31] Your skull cap.
[00:06:32] Then I would have those gloves.
[00:06:34] And the cool thing about this glove, y'all.
[00:06:37] When you were going outside in the cold,
[00:06:39] a whole pattern in design will appear on your gloves.
[00:06:43] This is why I had to have them.
[00:06:46] I was a kid y'all damn y'all.
[00:06:49] But then we moved to Tena New Jersey.
[00:06:52] Didn't mean anything, I remember that way.
[00:06:55] My memory goes that ball.
[00:06:56] That goes that.
[00:06:59] So what do you remember about Tena and what was some of the most
[00:07:03] cherished memories you carry from our childhood in Tena?
[00:07:06] We had a lot going on in Tena because we would
[00:07:08] have them for so long, so young.
[00:07:11] Amazing friends.
[00:07:13] Let me tell y'all something y'all call us old.
[00:07:15] I don't care.
[00:07:15] You ain't lived until you came up coming up in the 80s.
[00:07:19] What?
[00:07:20] No cameras to see the bull that you was doing.
[00:07:23] Do you know if there was cameras and videos how many?
[00:07:25] I would have had so many more butt weapons.
[00:07:29] I would have had way more.
[00:07:30] Both of us.
[00:07:31] Oh, yes, especially you.
[00:07:32] It's just that you already beat me.
[00:07:33] You wanted to go to the childhood we're going to go to.
[00:07:35] Okay?
[00:07:36] Because you already out.
[00:07:37] You outnumbered me in As weapons right there.
[00:07:40] Okay?
[00:07:40] Yeah, I did.
[00:07:41] Did you do that with that little fresh as my own?
[00:07:43] I always got a slick mouth.
[00:07:45] Yeah, but carry on.
[00:07:46] But Jersey was a lot of fun.
[00:07:48] You know, my biggest memory is meet my first best friend, Candy,
[00:07:52] Ingotten.
[00:07:54] Psycho, Elite, Elite.
[00:07:56] That's our married name now.
[00:07:58] She was Candy Wilson when I met her.
[00:08:01] That's his Ingotten.
[00:08:02] You're okay, you know?
[00:08:03] But that was a home, but I have a lot of good memories.
[00:08:06] You know, junior high school, especially in this.
[00:08:09] Well, you grow what were people from elementary to junior high school
[00:08:12] and some high school.
[00:08:14] It's a special feeling there.
[00:08:15] Yeah, it's a different bond you have because you've been through,
[00:08:19] you know, semi childhood to, you know, pre-teen to teenager.
[00:08:24] But you know what?
[00:08:25] To the question that you asked like my first good memory
[00:08:27] because we had just left Chicago.
[00:08:30] And from Chicago we had just left from Memphis to Chicago.
[00:08:33] So and we lived in the suburbs of Chicago.
[00:08:37] So Daddy took us to see the Wiz for the first time.
[00:08:41] Yeah, I remember that.
[00:08:42] And it just came out.
[00:08:43] It was like the late 70s.
[00:08:45] Yep, 79, 79, my 79 on the 80s.
[00:08:48] And I remember being five in New York City for the first time.
[00:08:53] And y'all don't understand for five yo to see all the, it was Christmas time.
[00:08:57] Right.
[00:08:58] It was and New York was lit up.
[00:09:00] It was lit.
[00:09:01] Yo, it was like winter wonderland in my eyes.
[00:09:05] It was amazing.
[00:09:06] It's like I saw a met a unicorn.
[00:09:08] Okay.
[00:09:08] And that's the feeling it was like, you're met a unicorn.
[00:09:12] So I remember us walking in the snow and ain't nothing better than walking in the snow.
[00:09:16] No, no, you gotta shit load them on the cuss.
[00:09:18] You know, you do do real good.
[00:09:21] Yeah, we do real good.
[00:09:21] Yeah, we do real good.
[00:09:22] And we wanted to go see my first crush, Michael Jackson.
[00:09:26] Yes.
[00:09:26] And I still watch the Wiz to this day.
[00:09:29] To this day.
[00:09:30] Yeah.
[00:09:31] And I also remember getting the Wiz album after the fact, yeah, the final.
[00:09:36] And this is the full moment did that rumor we couldn't go because all black folks got that
[00:09:40] room you can't go in the shower.
[00:09:42] You're fine.
[00:09:43] So before my half that area furnished and done,
[00:09:47] I would go in that room and play the Wiz.
[00:09:50] And the main one I would play over and over was the beginning, the good witch.
[00:09:56] Darling, darling.
[00:09:57] Oh, the, oh my god, the numerous new number.
[00:10:01] New year old.
[00:10:04] Cash this number baby.
[00:10:06] Sweet thing.
[00:10:07] Yeah, I said, I told you, I listened to it too much.
[00:10:10] Oh, my first good memories of Jersey.
[00:10:12] I love Jersey.
[00:10:13] I'm not gonna lie.
[00:10:13] No, Jersey was, I mean golden.
[00:10:16] I promise you, we like I said, regardless what we live and what we faced.
[00:10:20] It was always a great childhood.
[00:10:22] We had great parents bring us up.
[00:10:23] But Jersey has a foundation with us.
[00:10:26] Yeah, because that's where we spent a majority of our childhood.
[00:10:30] And we had to be Pacific.
[00:10:31] Yes, Teen That New Jersey.
[00:10:33] Teen That New Jersey was in Teen That New Jersey.
[00:10:35] I loved it.
[00:10:36] Yeah, I loved it.
[00:10:37] But you know, we had to move on and you know, we end up here.
[00:10:40] Couple years down the line.
[00:10:41] But you know, I learned a lot while I was in Jersey.
[00:10:46] You know, I learned I found my voice.
[00:10:49] Um, and that was the first time I pulled a gun on somebody.
[00:10:52] I damn it.
[00:10:53] No, you know, I mean, we're gonna tell stories about till story.
[00:10:56] Because I had a friend.
[00:10:59] I don't remember her last thing when I remember her name was Kim Mom and Dad and Lika.
[00:11:03] And I remember being a upstairs changing.
[00:11:05] Y'all got to remember, I was still in elementary.
[00:11:07] I was changing clothes.
[00:11:09] She knew it.
[00:11:09] And nobody was home with me and her.
[00:11:11] And she allows a group of boys in.
[00:11:14] And they were about to come upstairs and I told them don't come up here.
[00:11:17] I'm getting dressed.
[00:11:19] And I remember hearing these boys coming up the stairs.
[00:11:22] I went in my dance closet.
[00:11:23] My dad had a rifle.
[00:11:25] And he also had a sword that he got from his dad that someone stole.
[00:11:30] Oh, yeah, yeah.
[00:11:30] But I pulled out the rifle.
[00:11:33] And I stood at the top of them stairs in my draw in my t-shirt.
[00:11:38] And I was like a little young black girl, 70's saying.
[00:11:42] I had a black snake mone flesh from me.
[00:11:44] I was like, y'all come up these stairs.
[00:11:48] Okay, you break your eye.
[00:11:49] You're gonna die in the dog.
[00:11:50] That's what that was my attitude.
[00:11:55] Yeah, I learned old.
[00:11:57] Girl, you got a boy.
[00:11:59] You got some gangster, you're a.
[00:12:00] I still got it.
[00:12:02] Yeah, but a teammate really held a lot of, you know, stories coming into
[00:12:07] semi-automary hood because you know, we were pre-teens to young women.
[00:12:12] I was a virgin.
[00:12:13] Why, why is that even real?
[00:12:14] I'm gonna make an issue because there's a lot of hoochies out here.
[00:12:16] It's a lot of, it's a lot of, um, what he called you sexy rays out here.
[00:12:20] We were not sexy rays and we didn't know no.
[00:12:22] No, we didn't take that bad.
[00:12:24] We had one across street.
[00:12:27] We didn't.
[00:12:27] We ain't gonna say our name with she was, she was a sexy ray in back in the 80's.
[00:12:31] But it's still what she wasn't singing about a booty hold, though.
[00:12:34] She was just passing around.
[00:12:37] I don't care what time's going in.
[00:12:39] It's always going to be a hoochie.
[00:12:42] I was a hoochie.
[00:12:43] I wonder what the abbreviation would be for the times on hoochies on.
[00:12:46] How?
[00:12:47] Yeah.
[00:12:48] Because he backed in in the 80's.
[00:12:52] You know, you had shows like Archie Barker.
[00:12:54] There was no nothing was, nothing was too sensitive back then.
[00:13:00] They would say the F word, that'll mean the word fuck.
[00:13:04] Okay.
[00:13:05] They just whatever it was, it's what it was and that's what, and I liked that about the 80's.
[00:13:11] Who?
[00:13:11] It was truth telling.
[00:13:14] You're a ho, you remember that side?
[00:13:15] You a ho, you know you are.
[00:13:17] Oh, you can't turn my dog.
[00:13:20] Good dog, so.
[00:13:21] Yeah, can't turn the whole to a house.
[00:13:22] Why see, this is music.
[00:13:24] We can't bump because it was truth telling.
[00:13:28] And being a whole bag of them days was not good.
[00:13:31] And you know, besides that's called on stuff after word is, I mean,
[00:13:34] I think that's part of what shaped our personality is in the visual women.
[00:13:38] We've, you know, gone through various experiences and we've had different experiences.
[00:13:43] You know, East Coast, you know, South West.
[00:13:47] Midwest, Midwest, Midwest, Midwest.
[00:13:48] Yeah, Memphis is more Midwest, but we're in the South now.
[00:13:51] Yeah, yeah, we don't want to Texas or deep down South.
[00:13:56] Right here at the border.
[00:13:58] But they don't want nobody crossing.
[00:14:00] Right here.
[00:14:01] But you know, I want to think I'm mom and dad for shaping us.
[00:14:06] And I'm mom and dad were like two totally different people.
[00:14:09] Exactly.
[00:14:09] Two totally different upbringing.
[00:14:11] Yeah, both water sides, both pettin' and strong hitin'.
[00:14:15] Yeah, strong will.
[00:14:17] And you know, daddy had that, that gangster, right?
[00:14:21] I'm gonna tell you truth and I think daddy for that.
[00:14:24] Yeah, I was just reason why we don't do this.
[00:14:26] Nothing strange for change because we had a daddy told us truth.
[00:14:29] Yeah.
[00:14:29] And he hugged us.
[00:14:31] No, you know, my dad, because keeping it 100, you know, dad's fatherhood.
[00:14:35] When you got your tongue, yeah, it's girl.
[00:14:38] That's what's up there.
[00:14:40] Why are you three better?
[00:14:41] So now I got 10 of store.
[00:14:44] Yeah, for my, yeah, I was in my tune as when I got my tongue in the face.
[00:14:49] I was at least 22.
[00:14:51] So I was old enough to do with the hell I won't.
[00:14:54] And I ain't gonna lie.
[00:14:55] I hear that shit for a long time.
[00:14:58] And I remember all of my family members.
[00:15:00] They would notice it, but they would just look.
[00:15:02] Yeah.
[00:15:02] My dad was like very distracted, like what's in her mouth?
[00:15:06] But Lord when my daddy saw that tongue ring,
[00:15:09] I would never forget I was in the kitchen in Memphis.
[00:15:13] I was at the damn sink by the window.
[00:15:15] You know, the one face of the day of the game.
[00:15:18] And daddy looked at my mouth.
[00:15:19] He said what the fuck is that?
[00:15:22] And I ain't saying nothing.
[00:15:23] Even how's my tune as I still was,
[00:15:25] say, no, daddy was a thing I'm thinking.
[00:15:26] God damn dick suck.
[00:15:28] What's wrong with you?
[00:15:29] The ain't your mouth.
[00:15:31] So my daddy went in.
[00:15:33] I had to walk off because I wanted to laugh.
[00:15:35] I wanted to laugh, but I couldn't laugh at my daddy face.
[00:15:39] Because I'm probably with a result
[00:15:40] that there's something else to apologize.
[00:15:41] Daddy won't laugh.
[00:15:44] I can't even look at doing that right now.
[00:15:46] OK.
[00:15:46] But it was my dad, our dad, clicked.
[00:15:50] Because I was the one that got the tattoos in the piercens.
[00:15:54] I had my belly pierced.
[00:15:56] I had the tongue ring.
[00:15:57] He was pissed about the tattoo.
[00:15:59] And that shit was funny.
[00:16:01] He got the shit on your teeth forever.
[00:16:04] Yeah, dumbass.
[00:16:05] Yeah, it was my choice too.
[00:16:07] It's called Freedom of Choice.
[00:16:08] Yeah, yeah.
[00:16:10] And I did it.
[00:16:11] Just like you, Daddy, I do what I want.
[00:16:15] But yeah, that was how it layers.
[00:16:18] My little never said anything.
[00:16:20] I think my little was just like, hmm.
[00:16:22] What?
[00:16:23] My little was one of the Southern Bayels.
[00:16:28] Yeah.
[00:16:29] I grabbed my money.
[00:16:30] You know, I grabbed my mother was one of the people
[00:16:31] that black and black, my little was some stupid or some dumb.
[00:16:36] Oh, your child was ugly.
[00:16:38] Yeah, but everybody's on the start.
[00:16:40] Yeah, that bless your heart.
[00:16:41] That is a Southern term when you have fucked up, bless your heart.
[00:16:45] Anybody from the South say that to y'all?
[00:16:48] They checking you.
[00:16:49] You're right.
[00:16:49] I want to check it out.
[00:16:51] They checking the shit out of you.
[00:16:52] And they doing it in a respectful way.
[00:16:53] That's a special, hard, you stupid mother.
[00:16:58] Now, most people do not realize or really understand our relationship
[00:17:04] assistants.
[00:17:05] Fuck me, opposed to you.
[00:17:07] But carry on, Mrs. Pirekaster.
[00:17:09] Yeah, ha, ha, ha, ha.
[00:17:10] You stupid.
[00:17:11] That's right, carry on.
[00:17:12] What do you think Southern book the dynamics of our sisterhood is faced?
[00:17:18] Not a damn thing.
[00:17:18] You're free because you can't challenge us.
[00:17:23] And that's the first thing.
[00:17:25] The thing is, when I see people that try to, we try to,
[00:17:28] they try to pin each other and kiss each other.
[00:17:30] Right.
[00:17:30] And I'm just like, oh, y'all, what are y'all smoking?
[00:17:33] Right.
[00:17:34] I don't understand it because we want to raise that way.
[00:17:37] Now, you know, when we were fight or follow out as children,
[00:17:41] we got roasted by our daddy.
[00:17:43] Exactly.
[00:17:44] That was the one thing that could piss daddy off.
[00:17:48] He does not like to see us.
[00:17:50] No, at each other.
[00:17:51] My daddy's favorite saying was when we did and gone,
[00:17:54] you motherfuckers are the only ones you got to rely on in each other.
[00:17:58] Our dad didn't steal that in us.
[00:18:00] Being unicorns coming up in a two-parent house.
[00:18:04] That's not the norm.
[00:18:05] Now, it was the norm back then.
[00:18:07] We knew a lot of people had it, but it's not the norm norm.
[00:18:10] That I thought it was going to be because I was raised around it.
[00:18:14] But we've had a lot of people try it don't work.
[00:18:17] It don't.
[00:18:18] This is blood bound.
[00:18:20] This is also spiritual bound.
[00:18:22] Right. You can't touch it.
[00:18:23] You could put it.
[00:18:24] Well, you could throw anything you want at us anytime you mean it,
[00:18:28] but heads as always been in house personal stuff.
[00:18:31] It's never been outside stuff.
[00:18:34] And it's always been stupid sister stuff.
[00:18:37] I think the last time we had a big beef is when our mom,
[00:18:40] you know, mama passed, I think there was a lot that was grief and anger.
[00:18:43] Grief and anger to fall out,
[00:18:45] but then we'll happen during a day.
[00:18:47] All the past.
[00:18:48] Right.
[00:18:48] Because the grieving, you got stages of grieving.
[00:18:52] You got the grieving you said and then you got the grieving when you're angry.
[00:18:56] And I definitely went through the anger.
[00:18:58] Oh, we both did.
[00:18:59] Definitely.
[00:18:59] And we bumped hands and it made me so upset because we all said,
[00:19:03] Dad, because he was already grieving and depressed and all that.
[00:19:06] But we got it together.
[00:19:07] We did.
[00:19:07] There's never been an outside entity ever.
[00:19:10] A man or a friend that's ever came in between me and my sister
[00:19:15] and never will be.
[00:19:16] And that's what's, you know, it's shocking to me
[00:19:20] that people find that so hard to believe that there's no
[00:19:23] in my city, to any other person.
[00:19:25] We always applaud each other.
[00:19:27] And I don't understand, you know, everybody wouldn't raise the same.
[00:19:30] It's all like it took it up to.
[00:19:33] But we did have a few challenges as we came up.
[00:19:36] Definitely because at the time we were younger
[00:19:39] that we were well off family.
[00:19:42] Oh yeah, we was a rich black kids and they were rich.
[00:19:46] Already creates, you know, jealousy naturally, especially with the women
[00:19:52] we encountered later in life that didn't have father figures in their life.
[00:19:56] And you personally went through situations where you were like,
[00:19:59] okay, hate it all because you got a father.
[00:20:02] Yeah, I learned that hatred does not always come from just what you look
[00:20:06] like or what you have.
[00:20:07] Well, what you look like.
[00:20:10] Because I did have a manager at a job that didn't have a dad around.
[00:20:14] And you know, dad, I don't care how old I get.
[00:20:17] I could be 100 or two.
[00:20:18] I'm always be baby girl.
[00:20:19] I'm going to eat that shit up to the toilet.
[00:20:21] This is all right.
[00:20:22] And a benefit when we in the spiritual room, I will still be baby girl.
[00:20:26] I'm a carried all the way there and she was very the jealousy she couldn't
[00:20:32] hide it.
[00:20:33] And then I also found that jealousy not just from having a dad, just from having
[00:20:38] a bright light where you attracted people.
[00:20:40] Right, your person down.
[00:20:41] My personality, right.
[00:20:42] And I had women hate on me about that.
[00:20:44] I'm like, what is wrong with you?
[00:20:46] Right.
[00:20:46] And it would always end up, oh, y'all got to be effed in something.
[00:20:49] I don't give up.
[00:20:50] I'm not in this good cookie.
[00:20:51] I'm not like you.
[00:20:53] I don't just be throwing my cookie after to anybody to catch.
[00:20:57] I don't have a fridge beat.
[00:20:59] I have a, I have a, I have a, I have a special spiritually poonany.
[00:21:07] But I do not spray to people because it's glory.
[00:21:10] But anyway, so I, you know, I learned in my late 20s and early 30s that, oh,
[00:21:17] hatred comes from different shit.
[00:21:19] Why are you ever so?
[00:21:21] Because you was stupid.
[00:21:22] Because I got a spiritual poonany.
[00:21:23] You're right.
[00:21:24] Come on now.
[00:21:26] You know, and it says, I said, please, no, please, let your story.
[00:21:30] Because I want to get off.
[00:21:30] I landed my story.
[00:21:31] I'm going to say I just be kidding, laying up with any man.
[00:21:34] Right.
[00:21:34] Because he may be demon.
[00:21:36] And so I'm my, my pH on spiritualness.
[00:21:39] I'm my, your pH, your balance.
[00:21:42] And yeah, my pH, my balance.
[00:21:44] We can't do it.
[00:21:46] So you know, there are some rewards of being sisters though, especially with our relationship.
[00:21:51] There's a lot of awards.
[00:21:52] I'm playing some sort of, yeah.
[00:21:54] Girl, you know, let me tell you something.
[00:21:56] We don't need best friends.
[00:21:58] But we do have some.
[00:21:59] Yes.
[00:21:59] But we don't need them because we have each other.
[00:22:02] Right.
[00:22:03] You are the only person I can spend a lot of time with and don't get irritated with.
[00:22:07] Yeah.
[00:22:08] The advice first of you, because I can say girl shot a fuck of you, stay careful.
[00:22:12] It's, you know, that.
[00:22:13] But it's just like we could only say these things to each other.
[00:22:16] Nobody else can do it.
[00:22:17] No, exactly.
[00:22:17] Because if somebody else called my sister, stay and have a little bit of fun to me.
[00:22:21] Oh, Lord.
[00:22:22] And, yo, it is on site.
[00:22:26] We cannot be divided.
[00:22:28] Like MC Hammer said, you can't touch this.
[00:22:30] I told you, yeah.
[00:22:31] The devil, you can't touch this.
[00:22:32] But I do appreciate our sister because Rocky is my brother, that Rocky is my best friend.
[00:22:39] Oh, and baby says always.
[00:22:41] Oh, and even though I said we work each other's nerves, trust me.
[00:22:45] It's not always harmonious, never.
[00:22:48] But I can appreciate that, you know, if there's at the end of the day, we both in the same room
[00:22:55] talking shit about each other.
[00:22:56] But I mean, it's gotten better because you're thinking about our childhood, the stupid shit
[00:22:59] we should do to each other.
[00:23:00] Because we fought, y'all.
[00:23:02] We fought.
[00:23:03] We would fall out by stupid shit, lip gloss, Michelle acting like she was picking a nose and
[00:23:09] putting in my cool hands.
[00:23:10] And she's staring at me.
[00:23:11] Yeah, she's touching me.
[00:23:12] We should draw my dad crazy with that shit.
[00:23:16] My dad was like, y'all want some ignorant ass kids.
[00:23:19] Dad just go tell us the complainants and traffic.
[00:23:22] But we got on his nerves so bad.
[00:23:25] But as we grown, by the time we got to high school, we got a lot better with ourselves.
[00:23:30] Yeah.
[00:23:31] We didn't have a lot of physical articles.
[00:23:32] We would normally tear about your personal shit.
[00:23:35] Right.
[00:23:35] I was the psycho one.
[00:23:37] I did that more than Michelle.
[00:23:38] You know what?
[00:23:39] No, I'll take, I'll take you.
[00:23:41] I'll take it because I know I did.
[00:23:43] I think my first violent act towards one of your things was your dog.
[00:23:48] The little kissing dog.
[00:23:49] You stand my dolls ass.
[00:23:50] I said, you know what you say to say, I'm so psychotic.
[00:23:54] Hey, we coming to work.
[00:23:57] Yeah, she had one of the dolls that you pressed the stomach and it would blow a kiss.
[00:24:01] And I forgot what Michelle did.
[00:24:03] It was some bullshit that Michelle always do.
[00:24:06] She probably want to play with me because I like girly girly things like playing
[00:24:09] kitchen or barbers.
[00:24:10] Michelle was not into that shit.
[00:24:12] Michelle is into what she's doing right now.
[00:24:14] A microphone in my damn face or contract.
[00:24:17] That's what Michelle was doing the whole time at the child.
[00:24:21] Or listening to audio recordings.
[00:24:22] Okay?
[00:24:24] I was either beating a boy, playing or playing barbies or playing with my kids.
[00:24:29] And Michelle didn't want to do that.
[00:24:31] I think no one Michelle or a smart ass mouth.
[00:24:34] I can't remember everything that happened because it was years ago.
[00:24:37] Many, many months ago.
[00:24:39] Remind you.
[00:24:41] So I took it upon myself to take a butter knife and stab a doll in the ass.
[00:24:46] Okay?
[00:24:48] And I feel that Michelle should have realized it could have been my age.
[00:24:52] But it was a doll.
[00:24:55] She took it out on her own.
[00:24:58] And I remember she was going to mama and then, ah, that's bitch.
[00:25:02] They go to the next one she did.
[00:25:04] But I think the funniest one was when you piss me off again about something else and
[00:25:09] want to hear audio tapes, it was your, I want to say what your panokeo.
[00:25:12] It was one of my, I think it was your panokeo.
[00:25:15] Whatever it was, you recorded over the shit.
[00:25:17] But look, we got to break it down, no, because see, I don't want to break that.
[00:25:21] I don't want to see people back in the 80s when you had cassette tapes.
[00:25:25] And order to record over cassette tape, we had to take some paper, right?
[00:25:29] No small piece.
[00:25:30] I almost like a spitball.
[00:25:31] Like, almost like a spitball.
[00:25:33] But put it in the top part where it was dead to the end when you couldn't record.
[00:25:37] I was able to record over it.
[00:25:39] And I recorded over this hoochishit.
[00:25:42] And I said, it's just how attitude.
[00:25:46] I did that too.
[00:25:50] I did that too.
[00:25:51] And it took daddy and mama years to realize, oh, it is her attitude.
[00:25:55] They're me, but I remember she'll take it at damn tape to my bed and to complain
[00:25:59] of first.
[00:26:01] And then the girls had to stop from laughing.
[00:26:03] They stopped laughing.
[00:26:05] They stopped laughing in my face as I did that playback.
[00:26:08] It was no, look at Rocky dead.
[00:26:10] Three plus play.
[00:26:12] Ah, ah, ah.
[00:26:14] It's just for attitude.
[00:26:17] So I'm going to pet it bitches since I was three.
[00:26:19] Oh, I been pet it since I was three.
[00:26:22] And I can't stop now.
[00:26:25] It's too far deep embedded in me.
[00:26:27] I'm sure what it is.
[00:26:29] And it's your fault.
[00:26:30] You told me.
[00:26:31] But overall, I am so appreciative of the bond that we have.
[00:26:34] I don't know how we're to make it through this life without having you as a sister.
[00:26:38] I really don't.
[00:26:39] Vice versa.
[00:26:40] You know, it's just a support system.
[00:26:43] We always rag each other and people confuse our rag and each other.
[00:26:47] You know, as disrespecting each other, I'm like, dude, that's not the most important thing.
[00:26:49] Love.
[00:26:50] That's how we show our unique bond.
[00:26:52] You'll see that's why I appreciate jewels because when she hears us doing that shit,
[00:26:56] okay, y'all sister, something I get involved.
[00:27:00] Yeah, I appreciate that because a lot of people will try to get involved.
[00:27:04] And I'm like, dude, we fucking want each other.
[00:27:05] We just talking trash.
[00:27:07] So just mind your business.
[00:27:08] And when we are angry, y'all would not know.
[00:27:11] Pretty much could I be behind the scenes?
[00:27:13] Maybe behind the scenes.
[00:27:14] I mean, I've clicked on you once twice because you know, I was just telling to me.
[00:27:19] The difference between you and me.
[00:27:22] And she, she already, I said Michelle's a quiet store.
[00:27:27] Michelle's a quiet store.
[00:27:30] And I'm allowed store.
[00:27:32] What?
[00:27:33] That's the difference.
[00:27:34] You know, I'm the hurricane that comes in this fuck up shit real quick.
[00:27:37] You two, you two.
[00:27:38] Yeah, I'm a twist.
[00:27:39] I'm coming this bum russh-everything real quick.
[00:27:44] Michelle is one of the twist of disappears for a minute.
[00:27:49] And then the bitch come back with vengeance and you can't stop it.
[00:27:53] And I told her, I said, everybody thinks I'm the mean one because I come in.
[00:27:59] It's like, you know, I always use the, the, the front with your, I'm a front to the moment
[00:28:03] you're just, me and me and my dad are just like Michelle and Mama are just like,
[00:28:08] because Mama was also that way.
[00:28:10] She didn't want no B shit when the problems she would be quiet.
[00:28:14] Yeah.
[00:28:15] And that's what Michelle does.
[00:28:16] She'll be quiet for a minute and you don't step on her toes three or four times.
[00:28:20] I don't know which one, which told you guy that didn't set off but you may have got
[00:28:25] that middle toe and that's just the end of it.
[00:28:29] She go, I did not got to pull ass off the ledge.
[00:28:31] I'm the one to tell you.
[00:28:32] You're a life saver.
[00:28:34] I'm gonna get your shit, I'm gonna go.
[00:28:37] Let it go.
[00:28:38] Now I will take care of rest of it.
[00:28:40] And I try that, I guess that you, you are right.
[00:28:43] I will let things fly for a hot minute.
[00:28:45] But yeah, I like to cuss you out right there in the face.
[00:28:48] What you not gonna do.
[00:28:51] I know who you're talking to.
[00:28:55] You know, I'm gonna let you know the moment you step on my toe.
[00:28:59] I don't care if you got side of my shoe.
[00:29:01] Yo, yo back to fuck up.
[00:29:02] But my thing is like I said usually when I do have those type of confrontations, I don't
[00:29:06] really feel like my thing is I don't, I don't like confrontations first of all.
[00:29:10] But I don't have a problem dealing with them.
[00:29:13] And when I deal with them, I know how I can get.
[00:29:16] So that's why I try to, that's why I try to, that's why I try to, that's why I
[00:29:19] put it to my car to be good.
[00:29:21] Good girl.
[00:29:23] Girl, you know, you made me do what you know from your ass.
[00:29:26] That is Michelle.
[00:29:29] Michelle is the damn car to be enough.
[00:29:33] Girl, why are you fucking with me?
[00:29:36] Okay.
[00:29:37] I wish you well.
[00:29:38] And hell.
[00:29:39] I'm in Miami, Chittin' You.
[00:29:41] You holds on a one room for four.
[00:29:44] That's Michelle, you know, Michelle will leave you alone.
[00:29:47] She'll give you enough rope to hang yourself until she's fed up.
[00:29:50] I don't know her fed up point, but I already know what I see it in her face.
[00:29:55] And I'm like, yo, y'all need to chill because now I got to sit here and work to bring this bitch down.
[00:30:03] And then I got to go bring a meditate.
[00:30:04] I'm like, low up, please help me bring her down.
[00:30:09] Because not only she fed her right letters and she got her better than happy, she don't
[00:30:13] know no gangsters.
[00:30:14] Right yo.
[00:30:15] And Michelle knew a gangster set in every city.
[00:30:19] Y'all will be in trouble.
[00:30:21] I'm doing better.
[00:30:24] I'm doing better.
[00:30:24] I'm doing better.
[00:30:24] I'm doing better.
[00:30:25] I want to cuss you out real quick, let you know, leave me.
[00:30:29] My violence come when you don't get the first fucking hit.
[00:30:33] That's what my eating is kicking him.
[00:30:37] So the second time you do it, now it's got to be blood.
[00:30:41] Right?
[00:30:42] Where's the always paying, Zanko?
[00:30:43] You're gonna eat them bitches.
[00:30:46] I'm gonna eat them.
[00:30:47] I'm gonna eat them.
[00:30:49] Now we had a point where we got to bring all the curiosity to the table because we had a podcast
[00:30:55] that we started back in 2007, the Gossip and Huffers.
[00:30:59] It was a journey that I was very passionate about taking.
[00:31:04] Yes, you was.
[00:31:06] And when I tried to do it with another co-host, it was a male co-host that did not work out.
[00:31:12] And it was a real good work.
[00:31:13] Yeah, it won't go work.
[00:31:14] It was not going work.
[00:31:16] So I beg you to please co-host this podcast of me because people were always commenting on our conversations
[00:31:23] how we were funny behind the scenes just naturally.
[00:31:26] It just a sister who was entertainer.
[00:31:29] You came out with the name Gossip and Huffers number one.
[00:31:32] Mm-hmm.
[00:31:33] And let's first start there.
[00:31:35] How did you come up with the guys for that?
[00:31:36] No, you could start by the way, you just came in my room knowing I've been drinking.
[00:31:41] And I was drinking the ancestor drink the room.
[00:31:45] And she was just like, you know, I would do Prodigy, but that's my business name.
[00:31:50] I don't want to use that.
[00:31:51] And I don't know what it was.
[00:31:52] It was like all the time I had Gossip and Huffers.
[00:31:54] Right.
[00:31:55] It just made sense because we were talking about so many different things on that platform.
[00:32:00] And I looked at this gossip.
[00:32:02] You got a lot of shows and considered it called themselves gossip, but we had to put it
[00:32:05] to us to it.
[00:32:07] So you know, and I then called a little half of us coming up with a Mama's D2, you know.
[00:32:11] Yeah, yeah.
[00:32:12] That's all the school term.
[00:32:13] Right.
[00:32:14] And it was natural.
[00:32:15] Because I know a lot of people had a problem referring us to.
[00:32:19] Half of some people felt very comfortable with that.
[00:32:21] I was, you know, not offended because that was our brand name at the time.
[00:32:25] But I think the problem that piss me off the most with that name is the ignorance of people.
[00:32:30] They couldn't decipher this is the name of their podcast.
[00:32:35] But her name was Michelle.
[00:32:37] Yeah.
[00:32:37] My name was Rochelle.
[00:32:39] There was a separate entity in people kept intertwining it together as if, well, you know,
[00:32:45] Y'all, I see us.
[00:32:46] I got no, we call the podcast.
[00:32:48] That's the name of the brand.
[00:32:49] We don't call each other.
[00:32:52] I call her fucking Michelle.
[00:32:53] Right.
[00:32:54] All have a kid or bitch, whatever, whatever.
[00:32:59] It's a mode.
[00:33:01] And vice versa with Michelle with me.
[00:33:04] But as far as gossiping and being, you know, we've never been big gossipers.
[00:33:09] Now watch all do it.
[00:33:10] But I ain't gonna do it.
[00:33:12] Let's see the thing about this.
[00:33:13] We bonded on our, you know, our opinions coming across very strong, very blunt.
[00:33:18] And I think with us have not own personalities, we weren't trying to mimic anyone.
[00:33:25] And we were just basically laying out our honest opinion on whatever topic we brought
[00:33:29] to the platform.
[00:33:30] And it that included personal interactions.
[00:33:33] I'm not going to lie because you know, we both leave where we both petty.
[00:33:36] Oh, girl, if you were air sign, you petty.
[00:33:39] That's the first DNA of an air sign is petty.
[00:33:43] And holding grudges and I, you know, I get tired of folks miscastrily,
[00:33:47] bris with the, of a love love and they got to be low, no, no, the fuck we don't know.
[00:33:52] Never said fake shit.
[00:33:54] I don't want fake shit.
[00:33:56] Right.
[00:33:56] And if it's not true love with a little distance, I can't deal with it.
[00:34:00] Because I need my space.
[00:34:03] I promise you I do.
[00:34:05] But we gained so many haters from doing that podcast.
[00:34:10] And that just let me know.
[00:34:11] The podcast was good.
[00:34:13] But like you said earlier that was your dream, something that you were really
[00:34:18] into.
[00:34:18] You went to school for I didn't care anything for I just said, you know what?
[00:34:23] I didn't realize when you asked me to do it, it was going to go so many years
[00:34:27] later.
[00:34:28] Yeah, yeah.
[00:34:28] It was going to take us right and it took us to open and shows for comedians.
[00:34:33] Yeah.
[00:34:34] It took us to you.
[00:34:36] We did election commentary.
[00:34:37] We did lecture commentary.
[00:34:38] We did some of the lecture commentary on other podcasts.
[00:34:41] The radio.
[00:34:43] We did radio.
[00:34:45] And I can't lie.
[00:34:46] That's like, I was just like that was like a weird zone for me.
[00:34:51] It wasn't me.
[00:34:53] Yeah.
[00:34:54] Yeah.
[00:34:55] And people think that I'm so friendly and outgoing.
[00:34:57] Oh, I bet you go out.
[00:34:59] No, I don't.
[00:35:01] My best the best part of my day is when I get off work.
[00:35:05] Watch my ass.
[00:35:06] Get a joint or blunt and watch a good movie.
[00:35:10] That's the cream of the crop.
[00:35:12] That's the thing.
[00:35:13] That is like old thank you Lord for this time of the day because that's me time.
[00:35:18] Right.
[00:35:18] I get very overwhelmed when I have to deal with so many people and there was so many
[00:35:23] different people.
[00:35:24] You had to entertain them, make them laugh and it became too much for me.
[00:35:31] And I must equip.
[00:35:32] Oh, my God.
[00:35:33] We started in 2007.
[00:35:35] I know I quit at least 20 times.
[00:35:36] You, you know, it was probably more than 20.
[00:35:39] It probably was.
[00:35:39] Because I thought the podcast, even though we had great chemistry, we had great commentary.
[00:35:45] But it would also cause us to clash a little bit more often as you would do a
[00:35:51] siblings.
[00:35:51] You know what I mean?
[00:35:52] Because we had what have disagreements.
[00:35:54] They would be a guest that was doing too much and it was just you know, overwhelming
[00:35:59] on top of being sisters to have to cause.
[00:36:02] I didn't want to guess.
[00:36:04] I never want to guess.
[00:36:06] And I think the clash came between, you know, where you're creative.
[00:36:10] Mine, where you visualize what you saw the podcast and me not really want to be a part of
[00:36:15] the podcast but then I was brought into the podcast.
[00:36:19] So I figured like, okay, we need to do.
[00:36:20] I saw a different direction.
[00:36:23] I think that's what we bumped has because I was like, right, we need to sell each other.
[00:36:27] Yeah.
[00:36:28] The end of the past.
[00:36:29] Yeah, absolutely.
[00:36:30] But I will commend you.
[00:36:31] You doing it now on your own.
[00:36:33] It's not that you didn't start up with a lot of guests.
[00:36:36] You started and it's very important that people need to come to see you.
[00:36:40] If they're only coming to see old, you got someone so on there and trust me.
[00:36:44] We had some awesome interviews.
[00:36:46] I don't know.
[00:36:46] And I think one of my favorite ones because I love John and Gill.
[00:36:48] He's a sangin.
[00:36:51] Yes, he is.
[00:36:51] And he was down the earth.
[00:36:53] But it did become to a point where I would clash with someone the people that you were
[00:36:58] bringing on.
[00:36:59] Yeah.
[00:37:00] And I am one of the people you're not coming to my house to tell me.
[00:37:03] Shit, you're not going to talk out of the side of your mouth to me because you
[00:37:06] were my house.
[00:37:07] There will be if I'm on a life, if it's my life, you were my house.
[00:37:12] Right.
[00:37:12] If you own this podcast when we was doing my house as my house.
[00:37:16] And you share coming here with respect.
[00:37:18] Yes, right, your feet.
[00:37:20] And Michelle will get on me so much for talking crazy to the guest.
[00:37:24] Yeah.
[00:37:24] And you know what?
[00:37:24] And that's something I do regret doing because, you know,
[00:37:28] I, you've always been your own person and on your own platform.
[00:37:34] There will be guests that will come on there and basically be disrespectful and personally
[00:37:38] challenge you because they want to see how far they can go.
[00:37:42] So I, you know, and I know you are upfront with you.
[00:37:46] What you got to say, I'm going to say it right now.
[00:37:48] That that's the vibe.
[00:37:50] I can think off the top of my head.
[00:37:51] There was three main guests that I just wanted to go through the microphone.
[00:37:54] I was like, oh, I'm so close to the ASL and the very first one was Pope.
[00:37:58] Oh, yes, Pope, from the Diddy making the band.
[00:38:00] And I made a comment, you know what you're dealing with?
[00:38:04] Colored.
[00:38:05] I'm gonna say that.
[00:38:06] That's looking for confrontation.
[00:38:08] Right.
[00:38:09] They'll find, and she was, she was a color.
[00:38:11] She's like the poker bear.
[00:38:12] No, she didn't just poke the bear.
[00:38:13] She was looking for a confrontation.
[00:38:15] I'm like bitch, I want to run you.
[00:38:18] I will wear your big ASL just running around the circle because you won't catch me.
[00:38:23] In the moment you fall, I'm a good punch, yo ass.
[00:38:26] But I made a comment because they did a makeover on him.
[00:38:29] I love New York.
[00:38:31] And I thought the makeover was phenomenal.
[00:38:33] It looked she looked way better.
[00:38:35] And that's what I said.
[00:38:36] Right.
[00:38:36] What you need?
[00:38:38] I said what I said.
[00:38:38] I said what I said, but she looked better.
[00:38:41] Well, I mean, I am speaking English here.
[00:38:43] You do understand English, right?
[00:38:45] We would have some guests.
[00:38:46] I mean, I'm a her among many others.
[00:38:49] Chris, Christopher Williams.
[00:38:51] No, I'm going to go through my list.
[00:38:52] I'm going to be in Gohead.
[00:38:53] Go do your checklist.
[00:38:54] Christopher Williams was a punk ASS.
[00:38:57] I asked him a simple question.
[00:38:59] And he got, it was like his damn boxes went all up in his crack.
[00:39:05] And he tried to act like I was fucking at bitch.
[00:39:09] I'm an assom but I'm here.
[00:39:10] Don't do that.
[00:39:12] And then you had Kevin Hart's ex wife.
[00:39:14] Oh my god.
[00:39:16] Yeah.
[00:39:16] She was just whatever.
[00:39:18] And I said, oh bitch, you think you're going to talk over me?
[00:39:22] Oh, God.
[00:39:23] Yes.
[00:39:23] Oh, this is what we fit to do.
[00:39:24] She was a bitch.
[00:39:25] Oh, yeah.
[00:39:26] No, I said now I see why Kevin left your ass.
[00:39:30] I see.
[00:39:31] I see because you use a petty bit of his bitch.
[00:39:36] So Michelle, when we first started, that was an issue because you would not run by me
[00:39:42] who you was bringing on.
[00:39:45] And then there was other, because he was like, here.
[00:39:48] Pierre.
[00:39:49] See, whatever.
[00:39:50] Pierre, I don't care.
[00:39:53] Pierre was another one.
[00:39:54] He came late and kind of brushing off like whatever.
[00:39:57] I'm like, whoa, hold up motherfucker.
[00:40:00] So Michelle did really kill me.
[00:40:02] But after we realized Michelle realized I need to find out who these people are in
[00:40:07] Czechoslovakia.
[00:40:08] Yeah.
[00:40:08] It got a little bit better.
[00:40:10] Right.
[00:40:10] But we had to stop dealing with comedians too though.
[00:40:13] Yeah, that was a back-to-back thing that I was looking to comedians because you know,
[00:40:17] after is one of our, you know, our joys.
[00:40:20] We enjoy experience and laughter.
[00:40:22] Yes.
[00:40:22] And I'm saying that we want them to entertain and perform when we asked them to be
[00:40:27] against.
[00:40:27] But the same time, we were trying to have just a general conversation where laughter evolves
[00:40:32] naturally.
[00:40:33] And it was toxic.
[00:40:35] And it made me go back to thinking about I watched a documentary on Robert Williams.
[00:40:42] Very, very good.
[00:40:43] And he was talented man.
[00:40:45] And he made a statement that resonated with me about all comedians have a dark side.
[00:40:52] And we used laughter to deal with that, that's the therapy.
[00:40:56] Right.
[00:40:57] And I realized what the hell he was saying once we got into the Goths of the
[00:41:01] Half-Has.
[00:41:02] Yeah.
[00:41:02] And we started interviewing so many.
[00:41:05] And there's something that I will never say show me a dark side.
[00:41:08] I've met some comedians like Alex Adi.
[00:41:10] I met our is on his game Marvin Hunter.
[00:41:14] Marvin Hunter, Lawrence Killer.
[00:41:16] Lawrence Killer, bro.
[00:41:17] There are comedians that I've met in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, when he
[00:41:21] did, when he takes the shit.
[00:41:22] When he takes the shit.
[00:41:24] When he takes the shit.
[00:41:24] When he takes the shit, most serious.
[00:41:25] Because I'm a, I'm a friend.
[00:41:27] I'm wondering, friends, I'm gonna be brutally honest because you got to take the shit
[00:41:29] serious.
[00:41:30] We moving moves somewhere.
[00:41:32] But, um, we had met comedians that was like on the A game and it wasn't about
[00:41:39] the nonsense, no, the toxic.
[00:41:41] Right.
[00:41:41] But the others.
[00:41:43] Oh my God.
[00:41:44] The shit is like the shit in the circuit once.
[00:41:47] That's the, anything about the shit.
[00:41:49] The shit's not long.
[00:41:49] There's nothing wrong with the shit in the circuit when you are in your humble beginning
[00:41:53] stage.
[00:41:54] But if you stay there for a certain period of time, how serious are you about doing this?
[00:41:59] And if you stay bitter.
[00:42:00] Right.
[00:42:01] About not being everybody has their time for their path.
[00:42:05] God, you know, has a lane for everybody.
[00:42:10] And when you do dumb shit and you allow your dark passenger is what I call it to take
[00:42:14] over, right, then your progress will be pushed further to the back.
[00:42:18] You're, you know, being humble, being thankful.
[00:42:21] When those things are not in the forefront in those, that's what I found with the
[00:42:24] Chitlin circuit people.
[00:42:25] Right.
[00:42:25] You stay in that, that, that, that demise.
[00:42:28] Well, you're right.
[00:42:29] When you're so bitter about where you are at that point, you're gonna stay there.
[00:42:33] And when you do the nonsense, the, um, not being grateful, let me go after somebody.
[00:42:40] Because you, you get a lot of people that leaves like the games to life, the drug
[00:42:43] dealing life.
[00:42:44] And then going to something else, but they bring that street shit to that career.
[00:42:48] And that's the biggest mistake you all can make.
[00:42:51] Yeah, start bringing it all to the future.
[00:42:53] Yo, it's like telling men and women is staying in lane.
[00:42:56] Right.
[00:42:56] Keep your gains to end.
[00:42:57] It's right lane.
[00:42:58] If you was a drug deal before, keep it in that lane.
[00:43:01] Right.
[00:43:01] Because that's not the lane you're in anymore.
[00:43:04] But you know what's speaking of lanes when we came to a point, and it was me that pulled
[00:43:09] the plug abruptly on the guys for that first.
[00:43:12] No, you did because like I said, I quit over 30 times.
[00:43:16] You said more.
[00:43:17] And I remember you called on me one day.
[00:43:19] You was a, we had to record that day.
[00:43:21] And Michelle was just like, yo, I can't do it.
[00:43:24] I don't feel like it.
[00:43:25] I'm exhausted.
[00:43:26] And I ain't gonna lie in the back of my mind.
[00:43:28] I had the pom-pom.
[00:43:29] I remember that.
[00:43:31] Oh, Mickey, you so five, you so five, you brought my money.
[00:43:34] Mickey, bitch.
[00:43:35] That was going on for my head.
[00:43:36] Come on.
[00:43:37] I was dancing in my head.
[00:43:40] And Michelle was like, yo, no, what?
[00:43:42] Let's do another week or a month.
[00:43:44] Just so the people know I let me be in me.
[00:43:46] Fuck them.
[00:43:47] Fuck everybody, man.
[00:43:49] Fuck that shit because it's our mental health.
[00:43:52] Right.
[00:43:52] And I had already been tired of doing it.
[00:43:55] Yeah.
[00:43:55] And with me working another shit.
[00:43:59] Two jobs, let's just say two jobs.
[00:44:01] Two jobs.
[00:44:02] Because I've been working on my all day.
[00:44:03] It became too much because at this point when my mind was,
[00:44:08] it was about the Benjamin's.
[00:44:09] Right.
[00:44:10] Get that money.
[00:44:12] Paying this money, fucking mortgage, light bills.
[00:44:14] Making sure we have food on the table.
[00:44:16] I had lost interest in the guys.
[00:44:19] But that was years ago.
[00:44:21] I was sticking out.
[00:44:22] But then when I put that other job on my plate,
[00:44:24] it became too much.
[00:44:26] So when you called and said,
[00:44:27] you was tired, I said girl just pulled the plug.
[00:44:30] Just rip the band in off.
[00:44:31] And that was exactly what I said to you.
[00:44:33] Yeah.
[00:44:34] You wanted to slowly let people know we're going to leave.
[00:44:37] I said fuck that man.
[00:44:38] Those bounce.
[00:44:39] Swip it off.
[00:44:40] Let them know that shit.
[00:44:42] So Michelle did her job.
[00:44:43] She did her magic with the flies.
[00:44:46] We done as a wreck.
[00:44:49] Yeah.
[00:44:50] Done.
[00:44:50] And I'm not going to lie the first month,
[00:44:53] even though I was so irritated with doing it.
[00:44:55] I missed a full minute, but I got over it.
[00:44:58] Yeah, because we were so adjusted to go on and have
[00:45:00] this preparation, going live, promoting and marketing.
[00:45:05] That was you.
[00:45:06] And like I just showed it.
[00:45:07] But at the same time though, everything was in house.
[00:45:11] Everything was in house.
[00:45:12] Anytime you do start your own lane.
[00:45:15] And that's what I consider the guys of the Netherlands.
[00:45:18] We had our own lane.
[00:45:20] And I'm glad we had their journey together.
[00:45:23] And I can, I thank you enough for going through their journey.
[00:45:25] Because I know you did not want to be bothered with what you know that
[00:45:27] you're my sister.
[00:45:28] Right here.
[00:45:29] I'm a dude.
[00:45:30] Just like when it comes to my nephew, just like when it comes
[00:45:33] to your dreams, I'm going to be their tentos down.
[00:45:36] Yeah, but I didn't want to and see that.
[00:45:38] I thought also guilty about holding you to that album.
[00:45:42] That's good.
[00:45:43] Because I'm glad you felt this shit.
[00:45:46] Because I was tired.
[00:45:49] Like what's your movie?
[00:45:51] You'll give me my belt.
[00:45:53] I'm tired.
[00:45:54] I worked two jobs of time.
[00:45:56] I never have a good fucking cool.
[00:45:57] Cool to have.
[00:45:58] That's what I had to cool that flash.
[00:46:01] I'm tired.
[00:46:02] If I would ask for the beach away as I passed down in the middle of a
[00:46:04] club, oh, Lord, it burns.
[00:46:06] No, I mean, and the sad thing is to find out through here, say,
[00:46:10] a lot of people rejoice.
[00:46:12] They thought we failed.
[00:46:14] Yeah.
[00:46:14] And then they thought we fell out too.
[00:46:16] Yes.
[00:46:17] That will never happen.
[00:46:20] You guys can wish in one hand and crap in the other one.
[00:46:24] It will see what you want to get's feel first.
[00:46:27] Because this half of over here is not only my blood sister,
[00:46:31] she's my spiritual sister.
[00:46:33] Amen.
[00:46:34] We're going to be friends when we leave this earth.
[00:46:36] And we're going to be petted with you,
[00:46:38] and then let us go on the other side.
[00:46:40] Don't play with this.
[00:46:41] Don't test my pimping when it comes to my sister.
[00:46:44] Don't do it.
[00:46:45] You don't have to play.
[00:46:48] Girl, because you know what the sad thing is, you know,
[00:46:51] people I know with a dirty in this state,
[00:46:54] but they would rejoice if you die.
[00:46:56] But to me, man, when a person cross over,
[00:46:58] they more dangerous than they was on earth.
[00:47:01] They got more territory, more territory,
[00:47:03] more at time don't mean shit, exactly.
[00:47:05] On the other side.
[00:47:07] And the thing about it is after we pulled the plug on the podcast,
[00:47:11] it was just a bit of padding this when people
[00:47:14] that you don't normally hear from,
[00:47:16] oh, what happened?
[00:47:17] Like, nigga, suck these.
[00:47:18] You're just a hacker.
[00:47:20] So choke on my right hand, okay?
[00:47:22] What made you guys stop?
[00:47:25] And it was no outside entity.
[00:47:28] That was a creative decision that was made in-house
[00:47:31] between the two of us.
[00:47:32] I basically said it to Rocky Furrier.
[00:47:34] Yeah, she did.
[00:47:35] Before I said, okay, we done.
[00:47:37] Now Michelle was just like girl, I can't do it.
[00:47:40] I said, bitch ripped a bandaid off of this.
[00:47:42] It was a mutual agreement.
[00:47:45] Beyond two sisters,
[00:47:47] that's gonna still be sisters when you're getting gone,
[00:47:50] or why you happy, or why you miss miserable.
[00:47:52] We're gonna still be sisters
[00:47:53] and we're gonna still support each other.
[00:47:55] So I love to disappoint you, my hey, hey, hey.
[00:48:00] It did not work and it never worked.
[00:48:04] And now it definitely won't work
[00:48:05] because we're not doing the podcast together.
[00:48:07] Because I think people use that podcast as much as they could
[00:48:11] to pin us against each other.
[00:48:13] Because I know when we first started,
[00:48:15] people thought, oh, you should do standup.
[00:48:17] And they would whisper in my ear,
[00:48:18] you should do standup by yourself.
[00:48:20] Right, right.
[00:48:21] You know what I mean?
[00:48:22] It was before we got to IG, yeah?
[00:48:24] Whether PS stepped in.
[00:48:27] Right, exactly.
[00:48:27] And I know you would get offended by the shit.
[00:48:30] Yeah, because you know,
[00:48:31] like I'm gonna cut my sister off of something.
[00:48:33] I mean, if that was your dream to pursue a career in standup comedy,
[00:48:39] you know I'm all there for it.
[00:48:40] But the same time you've already expressed various times,
[00:48:44] you are not interested in being a standup comedian.
[00:48:46] You are quick with it in conversation.
[00:48:49] Yeah, I'm not.
[00:48:50] I have enough promises to have respect
[00:48:53] on what comedians do.
[00:48:56] And I know time and is one in storytelling.
[00:48:59] I do have plenty of stories I could tell.
[00:49:01] Right.
[00:49:01] And I can make up a story to tell you.
[00:49:04] But that's not my, that's not my thing.
[00:49:06] You know, my thing is I do hair.
[00:49:08] Right. I enjoy what I do.
[00:49:10] That's your passion.
[00:49:11] That has, that's been my passion since I was 14.
[00:49:14] I knew what I wanted to do with the age of 14.
[00:49:17] And it was hair.
[00:49:18] It was to not only be a counselor
[00:49:20] because you are a counselor doing hair.
[00:49:21] That is true.
[00:49:23] You make it somebody feel good about themselves
[00:49:25] by doing a hair.
[00:49:27] They come in looking one way,
[00:49:28] feeling one way they leave out,
[00:49:29] feeling the whole another way
[00:49:30] and look at the whole another way.
[00:49:31] I feel that same way when you be doing my scalp, girl.
[00:49:34] And God, I know I'll be doing it.
[00:49:35] I feel the same when I touch myself.
[00:49:37] Okay.
[00:49:40] Yeah.
[00:49:41] Because you know I'll be doing my whole hair.
[00:49:42] And these twist that guy is mine.
[00:49:44] I touch myself when I be dead.
[00:49:46] So you know, it brings me pleasure
[00:49:50] to make people feel better.
[00:49:52] And that's one of my things
[00:49:54] that I know my spiritual reasons for being a nurturer.
[00:49:58] The podcast was not my fulfillment.
[00:50:01] That was not your passion.
[00:50:02] I wasn't my nurturer.
[00:50:04] I was cursing y'all out.
[00:50:06] Yeah!
[00:50:06] Y'all was pissing me off.
[00:50:08] I was cursing y'all out, telling y'all things
[00:50:10] that I really, I really do want to tell you.
[00:50:13] But somebody had to tell you the truth.
[00:50:16] Something y'all ain't shit.
[00:50:18] You ain't gonna never be shit.
[00:50:20] Something y'all messy and miserable.
[00:50:22] And you know, when you have to go through that kind of energy,
[00:50:25] right, it sucks and drains your energy.
[00:50:29] It does.
[00:50:30] And that's what I found the gossip and have us doing
[00:50:32] after a while.
[00:50:34] It was draining.
[00:50:35] Because I had to deal with so many people being upset
[00:50:38] with you and me, our bond, right?
[00:50:41] And our natural light of communication
[00:50:44] and being funny and witty.
[00:50:47] And you know, people when they don't have it,
[00:50:49] they may have.
[00:50:51] They'll get over it.
[00:50:52] But like I said, it was a chapter in our lives.
[00:50:54] I'm glad we had a chance to experience together.
[00:50:57] And like I said, I give endless things to you.
[00:51:00] I gave a take in that journey with me
[00:51:01] because I do say that was not your passion.
[00:51:04] Yeah, I say it.
[00:51:05] You welcome and fucking, but no.
[00:51:08] Took with you that day a problem.
[00:51:11] Are you doing this, no more?
[00:51:16] I hope you enjoyed part one of this amazing conversation
[00:51:19] with my sister, but there's more to come.
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