Hosts Dave and Len recap a lively episode covering the Eagles' playoff loss, surprising weather, and plans for Martin Luther King weekend.
They discuss pop culture highlights including the Golden Globes, a viral TikTok baby born with bright ginger hair, and Chris Redd's revelations about addiction and a relationship tied to Saturday Night Live.
The pair also debate a provocative interview about speaking styles, Joy Reid's critique of Stephen A. Smith, franchise ideas (NBA world play and McDonald's changes), and close with a call to community service.
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00:01:37 --> 00:01:40 I'm hanging out with my partner, Mr. Leonard Young, What's going on, sir?
00:01:41 --> 00:01:46 Hey, Dave, everything is good. This is Leonard Young, CEO of National Black
00:01:46 --> 00:01:52 Guide, DelawareBlack.com, black media specialist, all around good guy. How goes it, Dave?
00:01:53 --> 00:01:57 Well, I'm still dealing with the aftermath of the aftermath.
00:01:58 --> 00:02:01 The Eagles season is over.
00:02:02 --> 00:02:06 And I don't know how many big Eagle fans we got out there. I know I am.
00:02:07 --> 00:02:14 Leonard is a sometime Eagle fan. And, you know, our DJ Tim is a big Eagles fan.
00:02:14 --> 00:02:20 But that was tough watching them lose the other day, especially in the first round at home.
00:02:20 --> 00:02:24 It's one thing if you lose away from home. But in the first round at home,
00:02:24 --> 00:02:28 you know, and then they just made an announcement today that they fired their
00:02:28 --> 00:02:30 offensive coach. Oh, did they?
00:02:31 --> 00:02:35 Yeah, they did. Yeah, they did. Yeah. A lot of coaches going down, man.
00:02:35 --> 00:02:39 Mike Tomlin, the Pittsburgh Steelers coach, just stepped down today too.
00:02:40 --> 00:02:45 So there's a lot going on out there. They were, it was ugly.
00:02:45 --> 00:02:48 It was ugly. The Eagles had no business losing that game.
00:02:49 --> 00:02:53 And still feeling the aftermath of it. I can't believe they lost,
00:02:53 --> 00:02:59 but hey, you know, it's hard repeating as a Super Bowl champion.
00:03:00 --> 00:03:04 And so, and they seem to be an every other year team, the Eagles,
00:03:05 --> 00:03:10 you know, but they won the conference this year, back to back champions.
00:03:10 --> 00:03:14 As far as the conference is concerned, that's the first time that's been done in 21 years.
00:03:14 --> 00:03:17 So we can't say that this year was all bad, you know?
00:03:19 --> 00:03:22 Yeah, Dave, when I heard about the news, I thought about you.
00:03:23 --> 00:03:26 I was like, oh, man, Dave's probably over there mourning like his puppy dog
00:03:26 --> 00:03:29 died. I don't want to talk to nobody. Don't text me.
00:03:30 --> 00:03:35 People would text me. I was like, just leave me alone. Too soon,
00:03:35 --> 00:03:37 too soon. It's still too soon for me.
00:03:37 --> 00:03:41 So, you know, but, you know, that's what happens, man. It happens.
00:03:41 --> 00:03:45 I mean, I go hard for my teams that I really, really like. So,
00:03:45 --> 00:03:49 but, you know, it is what it is.
00:03:49 --> 00:03:53 There'll be a new champion this year, you know, and next year.
00:03:53 --> 00:03:56 We'll get them next year. Every other year seems to be their pattern,
00:03:57 --> 00:03:57 so we'll get them next year.
00:03:58 --> 00:04:04 So other than that, hanging in there, sir, you know, we're in week two of the new year.
00:04:05 --> 00:04:10 January's already flying by. I mean, you know, the time is just whizzing by,
00:04:11 --> 00:04:14 you know, everything's just moving so fast these days.
00:04:15 --> 00:04:18 Yep. I mean, you're right about that. I mean, really, Dave, it's almost the
00:04:18 --> 00:04:20 middle. It was just about the middle of January.
00:04:20 --> 00:04:24 Yeah. We just had New Year's, just had Thanksgiving like last week.
00:04:24 --> 00:04:27 I know. I know. That's what it seems like, right? Last week, right?
00:04:28 --> 00:04:32 And then the weather has been kind of interesting because the day it started
00:04:32 --> 00:04:35 out like ice cold and then all of a sudden it got warm.
00:04:36 --> 00:04:39 You know, I was like, what in the world? you know
00:04:39 --> 00:04:42 so you know like i
00:04:42 --> 00:04:45 said man it's crazy when they talk about that they had snow in hawaii
00:04:45 --> 00:04:48 last week oh no they had snow where there was
00:04:48 --> 00:04:52 snow in hawaii last week hawaii yep oh
00:04:52 --> 00:04:54 wow i did not hear about that yeah yeah there was
00:04:54 --> 00:04:58 snow in hawaii last week you can look it up yep there there
00:04:58 --> 00:05:03 was so that just that also tells you a lot about the you know this weather is
00:05:03 --> 00:05:11 just all messed up right now so but you know we're gonna do what we we're gonna
00:05:11 --> 00:05:16 get through it if we get through the next 30 days i think i think we'll be in the clear you know,
00:05:17 --> 00:05:20 So, all right. Anything else going on?
00:05:21 --> 00:05:24 No, I mean, I feel like that's it. I mean, of course, we got a Martin Luther
00:05:24 --> 00:05:26 King weekend coming up. Yeah, that's right.
00:05:26 --> 00:05:31 Next week. I am glad because I have not seen a bunch of party flyers with Martin
00:05:31 --> 00:05:35 Luther King with gold chains and doves and with gold teeth.
00:05:36 --> 00:05:38 Yeah, gold teeth in his mouth. Yeah.
00:05:39 --> 00:05:42 They've been doing a lot to Martin Luther King lately. But, you know,
00:05:43 --> 00:05:44 I really haven't seen a lot this year.
00:05:44 --> 00:05:47 And I haven't seen a lot of AI because you
00:05:47 --> 00:05:50 know when AI first started getting a little wild there are
00:05:50 --> 00:05:55 all these videos of Martin Luther King doing crazy stuff so I know his daughter
00:05:55 --> 00:06:00 Bernice King was really trying to get on all them people hard well remember
00:06:00 --> 00:06:05 we talked about it on the show how that was going on and how they were trying
00:06:05 --> 00:06:08 to do a cease and desist on all of that stuff so yeah.
00:06:10 --> 00:06:16 We gotta keep his memory alive And, of course, these holidays,
00:06:16 --> 00:06:20 when they come up, especially our holidays, you know, like this one on Juneteenth
00:06:20 --> 00:06:21 and whatever they're trying to get rid of,
00:06:22 --> 00:06:27 we got to make sure that that doesn't happen and that we continue to do what's
00:06:27 --> 00:06:33 right when it comes to remembering the things that are important to us anyway. I agree with that.
00:06:34 --> 00:06:41 Yeah. And speaking of something important, another thing that would affect us,
00:06:41 --> 00:06:44 I would talk to you or text you.
00:06:45 --> 00:06:52 The night the Golden Glows was on, the very first award went to Tiana Taylor
00:06:52 --> 00:06:55 that night for Best Supporting Actress for.
00:06:57 --> 00:07:00 What's the name of the movie? One Day After Another. Have you seen it yet?
00:07:01 --> 00:07:04 Yeah, I have. I thought it was really good. Good movie. Good movie. Very good movie.
00:07:05 --> 00:07:07 Sean Penn was crazy in that movie, man. Yeah.
00:07:09 --> 00:07:13 He was crazy. But that movie was very good.
00:07:14 --> 00:07:19 I thought her role was very, very good. But, you know, I want to play devil's
00:07:19 --> 00:07:20 advocate just for a moment.
00:07:21 --> 00:07:28 Why is it we get recognized for roles that aren't the best? The makeups look the best.
00:07:29 --> 00:07:32 I know. And Dave, I was just about to say that too. I was just waiting for you to finish.
00:07:33 --> 00:07:37 Yeah, I mean, I'm happy, you know, and we know her story.
00:07:37 --> 00:07:41 We know she's been through a lot, especially, you know, big divorce from Iman
00:07:41 --> 00:07:45 and having to pay him child support and all of that kind of stuff.
00:07:45 --> 00:07:48 I mean, alimony and all of that kind of stuff.
00:07:49 --> 00:07:56 But, you know, after he cheated on her many times and to see her just come up
00:07:56 --> 00:08:01 and be this actress that she's become and also singer and performer and all that stuff.
00:08:01 --> 00:08:07 And, you know, watching her in that movie and playing the role that she played,
00:08:08 --> 00:08:09 I thought she did a hell of a job.
00:08:09 --> 00:08:17 But once again, you know, Holly Berry, a la Denzel stepping out of his comfort
00:08:17 --> 00:08:21 zone and playing a character that was so far from him, you know,
00:08:21 --> 00:08:23 that we're used to seeing him play.
00:08:23 --> 00:08:26 You know, why is it that we got to do these kind of roles?
00:08:26 --> 00:08:31 And then the roles that are great roles that don't require us to be drug dealers
00:08:31 --> 00:08:35 or anything like that, or killers or murderers,
00:08:35 --> 00:08:44 or, you know, be out of pocket sexually wise or whatever.
00:08:44 --> 00:08:50 Why is it that we don't get the rewards when we play somebody decent?
00:08:51 --> 00:09:00 That is true. I mean, Denzel, how could you not get Denzel Washington an Oscar for Malcolm X?
00:09:01 --> 00:09:06 I think you asked your question and answered it in the same sentence.
00:09:06 --> 00:09:09 Yeah, I mean, go on. Malcolm X. Yeah, Malcolm X, yeah.
00:09:10 --> 00:09:17 Huh? Yeah, there you go. But anyway, but hats off to Tiana and also to Ryan
00:09:17 --> 00:09:22 Coogler, who got a screenplay award that night.
00:09:22 --> 00:09:27 You know, Sinners had the most nominations for movie-wise.
00:09:28 --> 00:09:33 They only won two awards that night. and you know Michael B.
00:09:33 --> 00:09:37 Jordan didn't win her award which he played
00:09:37 --> 00:09:43 that part so you know but hopefully when the Oscars come around I know they
00:09:43 --> 00:09:47 did well in the Screen Actors Guild but when the Oscars come around hopefully
00:09:47 --> 00:09:55 the Oscars ain't no guarantees no more one thing I can say I'm surprised,
00:09:56 --> 00:10:01 that one guy had one I can't even remember what his name is that he's won twice.
00:10:02 --> 00:10:06 The guy who won Best Actor, you know, he won the Critics' Choice Awards,
00:10:06 --> 00:10:12 and then this guy. Oh, you're talking about for... What movie was that? I can't even remember.
00:10:13 --> 00:10:16 Yeah, but I know the guy you're talking about. I know who you're talking about.
00:10:16 --> 00:10:20 To be honest, I thought... Was it for Hamlet? Was it for Hamlet?
00:10:20 --> 00:10:25 Hamlet, no. No, Hamlet. There's a movie called Hamlet. No, uh-huh.
00:10:25 --> 00:10:28 I'm trying to remember what movie it was that he won for. But anyway,
00:10:28 --> 00:10:29 but I know who you're talking about.
00:10:30 --> 00:10:33 I don't know. Marty Supreme. Huh?
00:10:34 --> 00:10:38 Marty Supreme. Oh, okay. That's what it was. Okay. Marty Supreme.
00:10:38 --> 00:10:41 But, you know, I was just surprised because... Oh, you're talking about...
00:10:42 --> 00:10:45 You're talking about Timothee Chalamet for her. Yeah. The people that...
00:10:45 --> 00:10:49 Right. Yeah, and he won that last year, too. You said he won what?
00:10:50 --> 00:10:54 He won... Didn't he win Best Actor at the Oscars last year for playing...
00:10:55 --> 00:11:00 What's his name? I'm not sure. Let me look. For playing the folk singer.
00:11:00 --> 00:11:04 Who won the Best Actor last year at the Oscars? I'm looking.
00:11:05 --> 00:11:07 Adrian Brody in The Brutalist.
00:11:08 --> 00:11:14 Or was it Best Supporting Actor, maybe? No, so it looks like he was a nominee for Best Actor.
00:11:14 --> 00:11:19 Okay, he was a nominee. Yeah, for a movie called The Complete Unknown, but he did not win.
00:11:20 --> 00:11:25 Okay. All right. Okay. Okay. What I was going to say, I actually thought Leonardo
00:11:25 --> 00:11:27 DiCaprio did a great role in his movie, too.
00:11:28 --> 00:11:29 Yeah, but I think...
00:11:31 --> 00:11:34 That movie had so much star power in it.
00:11:34 --> 00:11:40 And what's so strange, you know, we hear, you know, you forget Regina Hall was in that movie.
00:11:42 --> 00:11:47 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was so downplayed. She was kind of downplayed in that movie.
00:11:48 --> 00:11:50 You know, so, yeah. Right.
00:11:51 --> 00:11:56 It was a good movie, though. It was a good movie. And I'm happy for Tiana Taylor
00:11:56 --> 00:11:58 that she... Because they...
00:11:59 --> 00:12:03 They gave her a big, big standing ovation when she won.
00:12:04 --> 00:12:10 And I, you know, because you knew that was all about, they know her story. Mm-hmm. You know, so.
00:12:11 --> 00:12:16 But, you know, that's us doing big things again. That's us doing big things. So.
00:12:17 --> 00:12:21 All right. Let's get into our show. We got a couple things that we need to talk about.
00:12:23 --> 00:12:28 I thought this first story was kind of strange, but interesting.
00:12:29 --> 00:12:35 It says, this story is called, Is Baby Ginger's Hair Surprises Parents on TikTok?
00:12:36 --> 00:12:42 So it was a Californian mother who's gone viral after revealing an unexpected trait.
00:12:43 --> 00:12:49 Her newborn son was born with bright ginger color hair. Now, the mother is black.
00:12:50 --> 00:12:54 And I don't know if you got a chance to see the picture. But the,
00:12:54 --> 00:12:59 you know, the child looks like it might be mixed because it doesn't say what the father's race is.
00:12:59 --> 00:13:04 The child looks like it might be mixed. It says, as Newsweek reports,
00:13:05 --> 00:13:11 first time Patricia Bev shared a short clip on TikTok introducing her baby, Caden.
00:13:12 --> 00:13:17 And the video became a conversation starter for viewers intrigued by the baby's striking appearance.
00:13:18 --> 00:13:24 In the video, 33-year-old Patricia, who posts under the handle Kissed by Fire,
00:13:25 --> 00:13:30 lip syncs to a popular audio clip that says, to be honest, I don't know what
00:13:30 --> 00:13:32 happened, but we need a redo.
00:13:33 --> 00:13:39 She added the caption, we really don't need a redo, but I do have some explaining to do.
00:13:39 --> 00:13:45 It says, neither Patricia nor her husband Terry has red hair,
00:13:45 --> 00:13:49 and they come from different racial backgrounds. So that kind of lets you know
00:13:49 --> 00:13:50 there's something going on there.
00:13:52 --> 00:13:59 Reflecting on the movie Caden was born, she told Newsweek, when I first started
00:13:59 --> 00:14:02 noticing his ginger hair, I was completely shocked.
00:14:03 --> 00:14:10 I'm sure he was too. Just like the nurses who pointed it out right after he was born.
00:14:10 --> 00:14:14 She added, neither my partner nor I have red hair.
00:14:14 --> 00:14:18 So it came as a total surprise. Now, Leonard, I'm going to stop here.
00:14:18 --> 00:14:22 What's your first thought when you see this baby with red hair and your wife
00:14:22 --> 00:14:26 just delivered or your partner just delivered? What's your first thought? Hold up.
00:14:29 --> 00:14:37 What the heck is going on here? Yeah, I'd be like, hey, can I talk to you for
00:14:37 --> 00:14:38 a minute? Right. You know.
00:14:39 --> 00:14:42 Or they if i mean not like
00:14:42 --> 00:14:45 us because we're stand-up gentlemen but if you're like
00:14:45 --> 00:14:48 some of the other men you might be like you know what i'll be right
00:14:48 --> 00:14:50 back i'm about to go get some
00:14:50 --> 00:14:54 milk yeah yeah gotta
00:14:54 --> 00:14:57 be professional you know not us though not not
00:14:57 --> 00:15:00 us because we're responsible i know i know you know we're
00:15:00 --> 00:15:03 we we would be cool you know
00:15:03 --> 00:15:07 now on the other side that might not happened you know it's just
00:15:07 --> 00:15:10 like when mary mary went and told started
00:15:10 --> 00:15:13 telling people hey i'm pregnant but you said you're a virgin okay
00:15:13 --> 00:15:16 you got some and and joseph joseph
00:15:16 --> 00:15:19 i'm pregnant but i never touched you you know so
00:15:19 --> 00:15:26 you know so it says before i started my tiktok journey i never imagined we received
00:15:26 --> 00:15:33 this much interest in him she said as out followers grew our followers grew
00:15:33 --> 00:15:37 in the comments poured in about his beautiful ginger hair,
00:15:37 --> 00:15:40 it really hit me just how unique he is.
00:15:41 --> 00:15:45 Red hair results from, and here's the background on this, by the way, folks.
00:15:46 --> 00:15:53 It says red hair results from specific mutations in the MC1R gene.
00:15:54 --> 00:16:00 MC1R gene. These genetic variants can pass through multiple generations without
00:16:00 --> 00:16:06 being expressed, which explains why children sometimes have red hair,
00:16:06 --> 00:16:08 even when both parents don't.
00:16:08 --> 00:16:17 The MCR1 gene variations exist in diverse populations worldwide and may remain
00:16:17 --> 00:16:21 dormant until the right combination of genes come together.
00:16:22 --> 00:16:26 That's still not helping explain this, if you know what I mean. Right.
00:16:28 --> 00:16:33 Call Maury. There still says there's some explaining that needs to be done, right?
00:16:34 --> 00:16:39 It says, many commenters speculated about the baby cadence genetics,
00:16:40 --> 00:16:49 including references to the Eve gene, EVE gene, often used to explain recessive traits.
00:16:50 --> 00:16:55 The Eve gene isn't actually a gene at all.
00:16:55 --> 00:17:00 This widely used term refers to mitoclipatitis,
00:17:01 --> 00:17:07 Chondria DNA inherited exclusively through the maternal line,
00:17:08 --> 00:17:16 tracing back to a common female ancestor who lived roughly 100 to 200
00:17:16 --> 00:17:18 years ago in Africa. Wow.
00:17:19 --> 00:17:27 While all humans today share this microchondrial lineage, the concept is frequently
00:17:27 --> 00:17:32 confused with how recessive traits such as red hair are passed down,
00:17:33 --> 00:17:40 which involves completely different genetic mechanisms through nuclear DNA from
00:17:40 --> 00:17:45 both parents, not microchondrial DNA from the mother-in-law.
00:17:45 --> 00:17:54 So they're saying that this is something that can happen based on the DNA.
00:17:55 --> 00:17:58 And sometimes the lineage that goes along with that DNA.
00:17:59 --> 00:18:05 So, I just know I would be tripping.
00:18:06 --> 00:18:09 I ain't going to lie. Did you see the picture of the baby? No, I didn't.
00:18:09 --> 00:18:14 But, I mean, it does raise a lot of questions.
00:18:14 --> 00:18:16 And Dave, you know how it is.
00:18:17 --> 00:18:21 If you're in a relationship and it's already a little rocky and then something
00:18:21 --> 00:18:26 like this happened, this could be the straw that unofficially tips the carriage over.
00:18:27 --> 00:18:32 Yeah, yeah. I mean, I wonder if anybody called Maury yet, just to make sure
00:18:32 --> 00:18:38 that this is, you know, right, you know, because Maury can get to the bottom of it, you know? Yeah.
00:18:39 --> 00:18:43 All right, let me take a look at it a little bit. Take a look at the picture.
00:18:43 --> 00:18:47 You guys, when you get a chance, look it up. Take a look at the picture,
00:18:47 --> 00:18:49 and it's just interesting.
00:18:49 --> 00:18:54 I mean, and this baby's hair is definitely red. I mean, it is not.
00:18:55 --> 00:18:58 And it's... Oh, my goodness. Yeah.
00:19:00 --> 00:19:04 Let me tell you what this reminds me of. What? Have you seen that Marvin...
00:19:04 --> 00:19:08 I'm sorry, Marlon Wayne's movie where he's six... What is it? Six Tuplets?
00:19:08 --> 00:19:10 I can't remember what the name is. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah,
00:19:11 --> 00:19:12 when he plays all the... Yeah.
00:19:12 --> 00:19:16 And you remember the villain, his brother, who's like the bad one at the very
00:19:16 --> 00:19:19 end? Kind of has hair like this. He has that.
00:19:19 --> 00:19:25 Wow, this orangeish hair. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, isn't it? I mean, wow.
00:19:26 --> 00:19:30 And it almost looks unreal. It almost looks like you took your baby out like
00:19:30 --> 00:19:33 this. People want to like report you from like, you know, making that baby look crazy.
00:19:34 --> 00:19:37 Well, let's hope that they didn't do this for clicks either.
00:19:38 --> 00:19:41 You know how some of these people will do anything to get clicks anymore.
00:19:42 --> 00:19:45 But, yeah, folks, if you get a chance, take a look at it. Because,
00:19:45 --> 00:19:53 I mean, the baby does definitely have a distinct look, considering who the mother is. Uh-huh. So, yeah.
00:19:53 --> 00:19:59 And, I mean, that, Dave, when I look at this hair, I'm thinking pumpkin, pumpkins.
00:20:00 --> 00:20:04 I'm thinking oranges. Like, I mean, for anybody who can't see,
00:20:04 --> 00:20:07 Dave, I can't lie. You're reading it. And I'm just thinking, you know, Ginger.
00:20:09 --> 00:20:16 His hair is legit a bright orange color. I mean, it almost looks like a wig. It doesn't look real.
00:20:17 --> 00:20:21 When I saw this story, I said, wait, hold on. Are you serious? This is her kid?
00:20:22 --> 00:20:29 And, okay. You know, I was thinking to myself, Lucy, you got some explaining to do. You know?
00:20:29 --> 00:20:32 Oh, so, hold on. So this is from 2024, right?
00:20:33 --> 00:20:38 Yeah. When the baby was born. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Got it. Yeah. Wow.
00:20:38 --> 00:20:45 That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. But I tell you, that just tells you
00:20:45 --> 00:20:46 that anything's possible.
00:20:46 --> 00:20:52 Because, I mean, come on now. I mean, we're all adults.
00:20:52 --> 00:20:57 We're all, you know, pretty smart people, you know?
00:20:58 --> 00:21:02 Sometimes. Sometimes. Some of us. Well, not, you know, some of us will say that.
00:21:03 --> 00:21:08 But, you know, you walk into a hospital, coming to see your wife and your baby,
00:21:09 --> 00:21:11 you got flowers in your hand and all that kind of stuff.
00:21:11 --> 00:21:15 You walk in the room and you see this kid sitting there with this bright red,
00:21:15 --> 00:21:17 bright orange hair or red hair.
00:21:18 --> 00:21:24 And you say to yourself, okay, where's our baby at bay? Whose baby are you holding? Where's Earth?
00:21:25 --> 00:21:29 You know, because that's definitely what you're going to say when you see this kid. Yeah.
00:21:32 --> 00:21:36 But now they're making the kid a TikTok star. So, you know.
00:21:37 --> 00:21:40 So I guess we'll be seeing about that kid for a while now.
00:21:41 --> 00:21:46 So I'm sure when he gets older, when he becomes a teenager, he's going to definitely
00:21:46 --> 00:21:47 shave his head probably.
00:21:48 --> 00:21:50 Or wear caps all the time, definitely.
00:21:52 --> 00:21:55 But I just thought that was an interesting story. So if you guys get a chance,
00:21:56 --> 00:21:59 just take a look at the story whenever you get a chance to. All right.
00:22:00 --> 00:22:02 We're going to move on to our next story.
00:22:04 --> 00:22:08 Now, this story we're going to have a little discussion about because,
00:22:08 --> 00:22:12 I mean, this actually happened a few years ago, but it's kind of resurfaced
00:22:12 --> 00:22:16 because both of them have been talking about the story.
00:22:18 --> 00:22:22 And I'm going to ask you a question about this story after I kind of fill people
00:22:22 --> 00:22:24 in on what happened for those who may not know.
00:22:26 --> 00:22:30 You're familiar with Chris Redd, right? No, I'm not, but I did.
00:22:30 --> 00:22:32 But you've probably seen him in it.
00:22:32 --> 00:22:35 Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I saw his video, so I didn't know that was his name,
00:22:35 --> 00:22:36 but yes, I know who that is.
00:22:36 --> 00:22:40 Yeah, and he's been in a lot of different movies and so forth,
00:22:40 --> 00:22:43 but he was on Saturday Night Live for about three or four seasons.
00:22:44 --> 00:22:48 And him and Kenan Thompson were really good friends.
00:22:48 --> 00:22:53 They even did a movie together themselves. They did a movie together, a buddy movie together.
00:22:53 --> 00:23:04 So it says Chris Redd talks about selling drugs to castmates and dating Kenan
00:23:04 --> 00:23:07 Thompson from Saturday Night Live's ex-girlfriend.
00:23:08 --> 00:23:12 He mostly addresses selling drugs to castmates and dating the ex-wife.
00:23:13 --> 00:23:16 So this is kind of a backdrop on the story.
00:23:16 --> 00:23:21 For those of you that are Saturday Night Live fans, you may remember Chris Redd
00:23:21 --> 00:23:25 was the other black guy that was on the show because they always only had like
00:23:25 --> 00:23:28 one or two black guys on Saturday Night Live.
00:23:28 --> 00:23:30 So at this time, they had two.
00:23:31 --> 00:23:36 Chris Redd revealed in an emotional Instagram video that his pill addiction
00:23:36 --> 00:23:42 during his time on Saturday Night Live led to a romance with Kenan Thompson's ex-wife.
00:23:43 --> 00:23:45 That's crazy. Yeah, I know. Yeah.
00:23:46 --> 00:23:51 Legendary NBC show Saturday Night Live has had a lot of turnover in recent seasons,
00:23:52 --> 00:23:58 and since reasons for castmate departures have been pretty diplomatic.
00:23:59 --> 00:24:03 Not much other behind-the-scenes information is leaked.
00:24:03 --> 00:24:06 They're very closed mouth about a lot
00:24:06 --> 00:24:09 of things that happened on that show like over the last year
00:24:09 --> 00:24:13 they've lost about five of their cast cast over
00:24:13 --> 00:24:18 the last year or so and because i watch the show on a regular basis and they
00:24:18 --> 00:24:24 you know you never really know what happened when they leave the show but it's
00:24:24 --> 00:24:29 usually you know trying to keep it in house i kind of knew about this what happened
00:24:29 --> 00:24:32 with Chris Redd because it was talked about on TMZ,
00:24:32 --> 00:24:36 it was talked about on a couple other news outlets,
00:24:36 --> 00:24:41 so I kind of knew that he was messing around with Kenan Thompson's wife.
00:24:41 --> 00:24:43 I didn't know about the drugs though, that this is new.
00:24:44 --> 00:24:49 But comedian actor Chris Redd pulled back the curtains a bit in an emotional
00:24:49 --> 00:24:52 six-minute Instagram video,
00:24:52 --> 00:24:57 where he opened up about his addiction to pills and how it led to the infamous
00:24:57 --> 00:25:00 hookup with Kenan Thompson's head.
00:25:01 --> 00:25:04 Excuse me excuse me ex-wife while
00:25:04 --> 00:25:08 i was on the show i had some pills
00:25:08 --> 00:25:10 pill issues you know some pill
00:25:10 --> 00:25:18 problems he said nothing too crazy but crazy for my black you know what and
00:25:18 --> 00:25:25 i wasn't i was even selling some to some of my castmates that's crazy too yeah
00:25:25 --> 00:25:29 yeah man but this guy man And, you know, he just seems like that type of guy.
00:25:30 --> 00:25:31 When you see him and you see him
00:25:31 --> 00:25:35 in the stuff that he does, it doesn't surprise me hearing him say this.
00:25:35 --> 00:25:38 He said, I'm not going to snitch on y'all.
00:25:39 --> 00:25:41 And, you know, he's talking about his castmates.
00:25:42 --> 00:25:45 Ray was hurt that instead of helping him through the addiction,
00:25:45 --> 00:25:49 his co-workers talked about him behind closed doors.
00:25:49 --> 00:25:57 He said he just, he had panic attacks And they just talked about him,
00:25:57 --> 00:26:01 adding, it's crazy how someone will watch you destroy yourself.
00:26:02 --> 00:26:07 During the struggle, Thompson's ex-wife, Christina Evangelina,
00:26:07 --> 00:26:14 came into his life and helped him work out his problems through accountability.
00:26:15 --> 00:26:23 He said, this lady was the only one to call me on my craziness and to help me, he added.
00:26:24 --> 00:26:29 She helped me with my therapy journey. She told me a lot of things about people
00:26:29 --> 00:26:31 in her life that made me see things differently.
00:26:32 --> 00:26:35 And in that time, we fell in love.
00:26:36 --> 00:26:41 When he started to feel a spark with her, he admit he felt bad saying,
00:26:41 --> 00:26:45 it has always been an emotional double-edged sword for me because I really loved
00:26:45 --> 00:26:47 everything Kenan and I did.
00:26:48 --> 00:26:52 Red broke down in tears, claiming he never meant to hurt anyone.
00:26:52 --> 00:26:55 In the end, he chose love.
00:26:56 --> 00:27:03 News of the odd couple went public back in 2022, just a week after Red stepped away from Michelle.
00:27:05 --> 00:27:10 Evangeline's divorce from Thompson came months prior with TMZ,
00:27:11 --> 00:27:13 or CMZ is always involved in everything,
00:27:14 --> 00:27:23 saying that the two had been separated for about a year and were co-parenting on opposite coasts.
00:27:25 --> 00:27:31 So I'm going to stop there. When you think about this, when you think about
00:27:31 --> 00:27:38 how these guys were friends, they worked on projects together.
00:27:38 --> 00:27:40 Of course, they worked together on Saturday Night Live.
00:27:41 --> 00:27:44 And you know yeah it's one thing you're
00:27:44 --> 00:27:50 having an issue with drugs and so forth but you know that guy you know he's
00:27:50 --> 00:27:56 married you know she's married i mean and of course there's fault she has fault
00:27:56 --> 00:28:01 in this too because i mean you know why would she do that and you know and so
00:28:01 --> 00:28:03 forth now my question to you.
00:28:04 --> 00:28:10 We all know about Bro Code. Who was mostly in the wrong here, her or him?
00:28:11 --> 00:28:15 Both of them. Yeah, but do you think one had more blame than the other?
00:28:16 --> 00:28:23 Do you think it's one thing her helping him get to root certain things, but taking it further?
00:28:24 --> 00:28:29 Yeah, so I'm curious how good of friends were they or were they?
00:28:30 --> 00:28:33 Because, I mean, you know, think about it. You can work with somebody every
00:28:33 --> 00:28:37 day and you can call them your friend and feel like they're your friend.
00:28:37 --> 00:28:42 But, OK, like when you're off the clock, are you still hanging out with them? So I'm curious.
00:28:42 --> 00:28:47 I think it's hard because when you break up in a relationship,
00:28:48 --> 00:28:51 you know that you and that person are not going to be together.
00:28:51 --> 00:28:53 But when there's someone on
00:28:53 --> 00:28:59 the side who kind of, you know, snuck in there and did whatever they did.
00:29:00 --> 00:29:05 To be honest, I'm not sure because I'm just not sure their relationship is.
00:29:06 --> 00:29:10 You know, I think it's some point. But Leonard, she was married.
00:29:11 --> 00:29:15 Hold on, I thought you said she was separated No, no, no Well,
00:29:16 --> 00:29:21 they started talking While they were still married But then they ended up getting divorced,
00:29:22 --> 00:29:28 And then About a month or so later Them two were together Yeah,
00:29:28 --> 00:29:33 I mean I get what you're saying I'm going to put it on both of them That's my final answer.
00:29:35 --> 00:29:41 I'm going to put it on both of them Well, I mean Yeah, I agree Both of them
00:29:41 --> 00:29:46 have some explaining to do here, and both of them are guilty.
00:29:47 --> 00:29:52 First of all, what— Now, hold on. Let me preface this.
00:29:53 --> 00:30:00 If that is his bro, if that's his homeboy, one of his good, good friends, yes.
00:30:00 --> 00:30:04 I think it's a—but, you know, I'm not getting that they're as close as we think
00:30:04 --> 00:30:10 they are. But I mean, if that's the case, like, Dave, if you try to talk to one of my exes,
00:30:11 --> 00:30:13 You know, I mean, I'd be like, oh, man, like he done crossed it.
00:30:14 --> 00:30:16 Like, forget the X. Like, he done crossed the line.
00:30:17 --> 00:30:24 Yeah, well, you know, I, well, okay. Anyway. You don't even go there.
00:30:26 --> 00:30:28 We don't need no verbal scenarios.
00:30:29 --> 00:30:34 But you didn't marry. Think about it. I mean, well, first of all,
00:30:34 --> 00:30:36 I mean, I wouldn't, you know, I think he know me well enough.
00:30:36 --> 00:30:41 I would never do that. but, you know, not, let's say we're rich.
00:30:41 --> 00:30:44 I mean, you know, but still, I, I.
00:30:47 --> 00:30:51 This guy knows, Chris Red knew that they were married.
00:30:51 --> 00:30:57 And I think they, I think if I remember correctly, now I could be wrong,
00:30:57 --> 00:31:03 but I think they got into a physical altercation over this, if I remember correctly.
00:31:04 --> 00:31:10 And that was another one of the reasons that Chris Red ended up walking off
00:31:10 --> 00:31:14 of Saturday Night Live because of this, you know, this altercation as well.
00:31:14 --> 00:31:16 I think TMZ reported that.
00:31:17 --> 00:31:20 I don't know. I just think that regardless of the situation,
00:31:21 --> 00:31:25 you know that was his wife. She knows he was his wife.
00:31:25 --> 00:31:30 Why would you mess with somebody he works with or worked with closely?
00:31:31 --> 00:31:32 Now, whether they were boys or not.
00:31:33 --> 00:31:37 And I think they were friends at one point just because they did a lot of things
00:31:37 --> 00:31:39 together outside of Saturday Night Live.
00:31:41 --> 00:31:44 That's just something you don't do. I just don't feel that you should do that.
00:31:44 --> 00:31:54 I mean, now, now I will say if it was like 10 years later and you guys started,
00:31:54 --> 00:31:58 you know, you started dating her or whatever the case may be 10 years later,
00:31:58 --> 00:32:02 it would still be messed up, but it would still be more acceptable.
00:32:03 --> 00:32:06 Yeah. I mean, you know, some time has passed, feelings have passed.
00:32:07 --> 00:32:10 And you know that you two aren't together anymore and you guys don't have a
00:32:10 --> 00:32:13 relationship like that and so forth.
00:32:13 --> 00:32:16 I mean, I'm sure Keenan will still be mad,
00:32:17 --> 00:32:22 you know, or still have a problem with it, but at least it won't be as big of
00:32:22 --> 00:32:27 an issue as it was that you just, you messing with her while they were,
00:32:27 --> 00:32:29 they were still going through there,
00:32:29 --> 00:32:33 even though they might've been going through some stuff, they were still together.
00:32:34 --> 00:32:38 You know, and then that led to the divorce was what happened with them.
00:32:38 --> 00:32:45 You know, I just think you just have to be careful when it comes to stuff like that.
00:32:45 --> 00:32:49 And you see it all the time. I mean, you know, I know you know people that have
00:32:49 --> 00:32:50 done it. I know people that have done it.
00:32:52 --> 00:32:56 And normally it doesn't always work out because I don't think because I don't know.
00:32:56 --> 00:33:01 I think I've read that they dated for about a year and then they went their separate ways.
00:33:02 --> 00:33:09 I don't I know they're not together now so I don't know but I what do you guys
00:33:09 --> 00:33:16 think I mean we want to get your opinions on this whether it's cool to date your somebody's ex's,
00:33:17 --> 00:33:23 and when it I mean it's when is it I mean is it appropriate is it not appropriate
00:33:23 --> 00:33:27 to do it you know I want to know what other people had to say about that I'm
00:33:27 --> 00:33:29 sure we'll get some comments about it,
00:33:29 --> 00:33:32 people like controversial subjects.
00:33:33 --> 00:33:34 We'll see what it says to say.
00:33:35 --> 00:33:38 All right. Let's move on to our next story.
00:33:39 --> 00:33:45 All right, Dave. So our next story is about, let me just bring it on up.
00:33:46 --> 00:33:48 Uh-oh, that ain't it.
00:33:49 --> 00:33:54 Okay. You know, Dave, sometimes you can click on some stuff and some crazy stuff
00:33:54 --> 00:33:57 come up on you. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Computer.
00:33:59 --> 00:34:04 Yeah, I know Them sites that you be on, man You just gotta remember We're doing
00:34:04 --> 00:34:05 the show, you can't talk about this,
00:34:07 --> 00:34:10 You're talking about the sites that you send me? No, no, no, not the ones I send you.
00:34:11 --> 00:34:15 Oh, okay. All right. I send you nice, wholesome things like,
00:34:15 --> 00:34:18 you know, Jesus loves you and stuff like that.
00:34:19 --> 00:34:25 You sure do. Everybody, he's not lying. And great real estate deals and stuff like that. Yeah.
00:34:26 --> 00:34:28 All right. So, Dave, I'm going to play a little clip for you,
00:34:28 --> 00:34:30 but let me ask you a question before that.
00:34:32 --> 00:34:39 Growing up, did anyone ever tell you that you talk white? I have been told that over the phone. Okay.
00:34:40 --> 00:34:48 So the reason why I ask is because there's a former NFL player named George Wister,
00:34:49 --> 00:34:53 and he's left speechless when he has an interview with this another black man
00:34:53 --> 00:34:55 named Jesse Lee Peterson.
00:34:55 --> 00:35:00 And they, well, you can't see it, but if you saw Jesse Lee Peterson,
00:35:00 --> 00:35:05 you can recognize him as one of those. I'm almost going to call him an agitator.
00:35:05 --> 00:35:09 He almost reminded me of a Charleston White. Is that the guy's name?
00:35:10 --> 00:35:13 Yeah. Yeah. He almost reminded me of that type of person who speaks a little
00:35:13 --> 00:35:16 bit of knowledge, but then just disrupts everything.
00:35:16 --> 00:35:23 So I'm going to play a clip of this former NFL player on his show and just listen
00:35:23 --> 00:35:24 to his response real quick.
00:35:25 --> 00:35:30 Very well, you're black. Uh-oh. So I'm trying to, let me try to start it over
00:35:30 --> 00:35:33 again because I can't rewind.
00:35:34 --> 00:35:36 You speak very well that you're black.
00:35:37 --> 00:35:42 How did that happen? What does that mean? You speak well. You speak like a white person.
00:35:43 --> 00:35:47 How did that happen? How do I speak like a white person? All proper and right
00:35:47 --> 00:35:49 and he can understand you.
00:35:49 --> 00:35:52 You're using the right words.
00:35:52 --> 00:35:54 And how did that happen?
00:35:55 --> 00:36:00 I'm confused by your question. How do I? You speak like a white man.
00:36:00 --> 00:36:05 I do? Yeah, and that's good, not bad. Oh, or. But I'm just wondering how did that happen?
00:36:06 --> 00:36:10 Or, or do I speak like a black man? No.
00:36:10 --> 00:36:15 Oh, I don't speak like a black man? You speak? Black men are well-read.
00:36:15 --> 00:36:16 What do you mean? We go to college.
00:36:16 --> 00:36:22 We take care of our kids. We pay our taxes. We do our responsibilities.
00:36:22 --> 00:36:27 So I don't know how that is white. I know that's what black men do.
00:36:27 --> 00:36:30 That's what I know. What's wrong with the blacks?
00:36:31 --> 00:36:34 I don't know. Confused by your question. What's wrong with the blacks?
00:36:36 --> 00:36:40 You're going to have to be way more specific than that. I don't know what that means. Why?
00:36:41 --> 00:36:45 So, I mean, of course, the whole... Is he messing with him? Was he messing with him?
00:36:46 --> 00:36:50 He sounded like he was messing with him. So, partially yes and no,
00:36:50 --> 00:36:55 but a lot of his shows are kind of like that.
00:36:55 --> 00:37:01 Like, you know, he, I won't say he's ignorant, but I mean, I guess he clearly looks ignorant.
00:37:01 --> 00:37:05 But this is on a podcast called The Fallen State.
00:37:05 --> 00:37:09 And I think this- You speak very well and you're black.
00:37:10 --> 00:37:13 Okay, so I'm trying to figure out whose podcast.
00:37:13 --> 00:37:20 Okay, so this is the guy, Jesse Lee Patterson's podcast. So I don't know,
00:37:20 --> 00:37:25 Dave, maybe we got to take a listen and see if there's ignorance or intelligence. I don't know.
00:37:26 --> 00:37:28 But, you know, it kind of raises the question that.
00:37:29 --> 00:37:33 And Dave, this is an age old question, and they'll probably be saying this 30 years.
00:37:33 --> 00:37:38 Well, maybe not 30 years from now, because half the country will be brown or black.
00:37:40 --> 00:37:43 But growing up, like how did you reply to this question?
00:37:43 --> 00:37:45 You know, and people are like, oh, you know, you speak like.
00:37:45 --> 00:37:50 And Dave, you know, I've had people say to me, but, you know,
00:37:51 --> 00:37:55 how do you feel about people still asking this question in this day and age?
00:37:56 --> 00:38:02 Well, I think a lot of it comes from culture and your background.
00:38:03 --> 00:38:10 Like, if you grew up in Alabama, Mississippi, and I'm not trying to talk negative
00:38:10 --> 00:38:17 about these places, but even places like South Carolina, mainly in the southern states,
00:38:18 --> 00:38:21 you have a certain dialect or a certain way of speaking.
00:38:23 --> 00:38:31 A lot of times people who grew up in the northern states, they have a certain way of speaking.
00:38:31 --> 00:38:41 And depending on what your upbringing was, you picked up on how people spoke around you.
00:38:42 --> 00:38:45 You know because you know we we've heard
00:38:45 --> 00:38:49 over especially over the last what five
00:38:49 --> 00:38:58 six seven years with all that's going on how white people feel about you know
00:38:58 --> 00:39:03 a lot of us and the way we talk and then you know we have created our own dialect
00:39:03 --> 00:39:06 within a dialect at times some of the younger folks, you know,
00:39:06 --> 00:39:13 or slang, you know, the slang that we use in certain emphasis and situations,
00:39:13 --> 00:39:20 you know, that we have created a whole nother language in a lot of respects.
00:39:21 --> 00:39:27 Almost like a code-type language. When we have someone who pronounces the I's,
00:39:28 --> 00:39:34 dots the I's and crosses the T's, and, you know, you have someone who,
00:39:35 --> 00:39:39 if this guy is being for real with this, who's not used to hearing that,
00:39:40 --> 00:39:47 yeah, you know, I could see somebody saying, well, you speak off for proper,
00:39:47 --> 00:39:49 or you, you know, where you come from?
00:39:49 --> 00:39:53 You must come from a very rich neighborhood or something like that because you
00:39:53 --> 00:39:55 get that from time to time.
00:39:55 --> 00:39:57 I mean, and I know you've probably gotten that in the past yourself.
00:39:58 --> 00:40:03 I mean, when you left Delaware to go to Florida A&M. Oh, yeah.
00:40:04 --> 00:40:07 I'm sure that was a culture shock for you, wasn't it? No, it was.
00:40:08 --> 00:40:16 Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure. And I know when I left PS to go to A.I.
00:40:16 --> 00:40:20 DuPont, that was a culture shock for me. and I'm sure it was for them because
00:40:20 --> 00:40:25 they were used to only having maybe 20 black people in the school at one time.
00:40:27 --> 00:40:32 That year they had probably about 60 of us and they didn't know what to do with it, you know?
00:40:32 --> 00:40:38 You know, so, but I don't know. It just seemed like this guy was messing with him a little bit.
00:40:39 --> 00:40:45 Just sounded like, I mean, I can't believe that, that, that we still have people,
00:40:46 --> 00:40:49 who feel that way. I did look him up.
00:40:49 --> 00:40:54 I mean, he seems to be an older gentleman now. He's coming to play too.
00:40:55 --> 00:41:00 I wonder what his age is. I mean, he definitely 65, 75.
00:41:01 --> 00:41:03 He might be a 60 to 70-year-old person. Yeah.
00:41:04 --> 00:41:07 And that could make a difference too, depending on where he's from.
00:41:07 --> 00:41:11 But I think he was messing with that guy a little bit later. I really do.
00:41:13 --> 00:41:19 But especially an open-ended question, what about the Blacks? Yeah, yeah.
00:41:19 --> 00:41:24 Because if he wasn't, that's scary if he wasn't. I'm just going to say that.
00:41:25 --> 00:41:26 If he wasn't messing with them.
00:41:27 --> 00:41:33 Yeah, so this is the day and time that we're in, folks, really.
00:41:34 --> 00:41:38 And it's not going to get any better. It's not going to get any better, you know.
00:41:38 --> 00:41:42 So, all right, let's move on to our next story.
00:41:44 --> 00:41:47 When was it, about a month or so ago, we were talking about Stephen A. Smith.
00:41:49 --> 00:41:55 And, you know. It might have been a week ago. I think that was two weeks ago. Yeah.
00:41:56 --> 00:42:02 Stephen A. Smith, of course, everybody probably knows Stephen A. by now.
00:42:02 --> 00:42:07 And, of course, lately, over the past year, he's been kind of gearing up because
00:42:07 --> 00:42:11 he's been talking about making a political run for some type of seat.
00:42:11 --> 00:42:17 He did say president at one time. But I think he's just trying to get himself
00:42:17 --> 00:42:21 into some type of political seat at this point.
00:42:22 --> 00:42:27 But he's been doing a lot of talking outside of sports. And that's what he's known for in sports.
00:42:27 --> 00:42:32 On his podcast, on, you know, making comments about things that people are saying.
00:42:34 --> 00:42:39 So we talked about not too long ago what he had to say about Jasmine Crockett.
00:42:39 --> 00:42:42 And he was all wrong with everything that he was saying.
00:42:43 --> 00:42:46 You know? Oh, no. Was that Jasmine or was that what he said about?
00:42:47 --> 00:42:51 No, it was Jasmine Rockin and Joy Reid. Joy Reid, yeah. Okay.
00:42:52 --> 00:42:56 So here we have Joy Reid who has something to say about him.
00:42:57 --> 00:43:00 It says, stick to sports. Joy Reid slammed Stephen A.
00:43:00 --> 00:43:07 Smith over his reaction to the Renee Good shooting and critiquing prominent black people.
00:43:07 --> 00:43:12 Now, for those who don't know who Renee Good is, This was the young lady who
00:43:12 --> 00:43:14 was unfortunately gunned down.
00:43:15 --> 00:43:24 And, yeah, I said gunned down in Minneapolis by the ISIS people.
00:43:24 --> 00:43:26 Ice. Ice. Ice people. I said ISIS.
00:43:27 --> 00:43:29 Ice people. We got too many people out there on the streets.
00:43:30 --> 00:43:32 Ice, ISIS. We got too many of them out there.
00:43:33 --> 00:43:41 When they said that she used her car as a weapon to run over and try to hit
00:43:41 --> 00:43:45 the officer, an ICE officer, and they shot her.
00:43:46 --> 00:43:49 So Stephen A who's been commenting on everything,
00:43:51 --> 00:43:55 This had his comments to say, and Joey Reed had something to say back.
00:43:55 --> 00:43:59 So it says, Joey Reed is taking the gloves off against Stephen A.
00:43:59 --> 00:44:05 Smith after Smith's interview with Lindsay Davis on ABC.
00:44:06 --> 00:44:12 Regarding various statements made against him by prominent black women and his
00:44:12 --> 00:44:15 thoughts on politics at large.
00:44:15 --> 00:44:22 Reed took to her Subtract live show to address Smith's comments towards her,
00:44:22 --> 00:44:26 Congresswoman, and Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett.
00:44:26 --> 00:44:31 The award-winning journalist pointed out how Smith's prior comments about Michelle
00:44:31 --> 00:44:35 Obama, Kamala Harris, LeBron James,
00:44:36 --> 00:44:42 Jemele Hill, Serena Williams, Colin Kaepernick, Black Lives Matter,
00:44:43 --> 00:44:45 and other subjects had led to the issue.
00:44:45 --> 00:44:48 Plenty of black women to call him out.
00:44:48 --> 00:44:53 And what did all those people have in common, by the way? Black? Yes.
00:44:54 --> 00:45:01 Not one white person I mentioned in there. And he's been getting into it with all these people.
00:45:01 --> 00:45:06 We talked about LeBron last, him and LeBron during your review.
00:45:06 --> 00:45:08 We talked about how LeBron called him out.
00:45:09 --> 00:45:17 She's responding that way because when she got fired by MSNBC, Her show got canceled.
00:45:17 --> 00:45:25 I spoke on it. Smith told Davis in an interview that aired in full on Hulu and
00:45:25 --> 00:45:28 Disney Plus on Monday, January 12th.
00:45:28 --> 00:45:33 I said, she is a talented, highly intelligent woman.
00:45:33 --> 00:45:41 I respect her. the issue is it's your numbers drop to 47% and you are black
00:45:41 --> 00:45:46 in this culture that we are living in this you.
00:45:49 --> 00:45:57 In this culture that we are living in, did you really expect something else to happen? Of course.
00:45:57 --> 00:46:02 They were going to do that to you. I'm looking at it and I'm saying,
00:46:02 --> 00:46:07 I get it and you might be right, but the matter in which you're going about
00:46:07 --> 00:46:10 it, that ain't going to serve you well in the long term.
00:46:10 --> 00:46:18 When Davis asked why it felt like many black women had high critiques ready
00:46:18 --> 00:46:23 for Smith, the ESPN personality said he believed that Reed,
00:46:24 --> 00:46:29 Crockett, and others were only a few black women who thought that way of him.
00:46:29 --> 00:46:35 Smith, who had previously called out Smith on Naked with Carrie Champion,
00:46:35 --> 00:46:42 didn't hold back on her show Monday. I want you all to notice that he did not
00:46:42 --> 00:46:44 answer Lindsey Davis' question.
00:46:44 --> 00:46:47 Read began around the 45-minute mark.
00:46:48 --> 00:46:53 He just did his, I just have so much respect for these sisters.
00:46:55 --> 00:47:01 Before attacking Jasmine, Crockett, and me with his same old BS.
00:47:02 --> 00:47:07 Reed also says Smith's claims about her show's declining number was wrong,
00:47:07 --> 00:47:14 stating that her MSNBC show ratings were increasing at the time when she was let go by the network.
00:47:14 --> 00:47:21 That's weird, Stephen Reed said, because I thought your whole shit was you're
00:47:21 --> 00:47:24 going to prove it about race.
00:47:25 --> 00:47:27 It's about race and not about race.
00:47:28 --> 00:47:31 And it's not about race, but now it's about race.
00:47:31 --> 00:47:40 Does that mean that people who are black that work at MSNBC now should be fired based on the formula?
00:47:40 --> 00:47:46 After replaying a litany of clips from the sportscasters speaking out against
00:47:46 --> 00:47:54 notable black people, reiterated, main point about Smith, you got a lot of smoke for black folk.
00:47:55 --> 00:48:00 But when it comes to Charlie, Kirk, Donald Trump, you have no smoke for them.
00:48:01 --> 00:48:03 Hmm. Okay.
00:48:04 --> 00:48:10 Stephen A. be stepping in it. First of all, he does seem to have a lot to say
00:48:10 --> 00:48:13 about black women, especially prominent black women.
00:48:13 --> 00:48:18 You're going to talk against Jasmine Crockett, Jory Reed, Terry Champion,
00:48:19 --> 00:48:21 Michelle Obama, Kamala Harris.
00:48:22 --> 00:48:29 Those are some of the most recognizable and powerful women in each of their positions.
00:48:30 --> 00:48:34 Why would you think it's okay to talk about them?
00:48:34 --> 00:48:37 I've heard Stephen A. talk about a lot of things.
00:48:39 --> 00:48:43 And I don't know. I think he's gotten cocky over the years because he's making
00:48:43 --> 00:48:46 all this money now. And he feels he has a voice.
00:48:46 --> 00:48:51 You know, this guy walked into a stadium thinking he's part of the basketball team.
00:48:51 --> 00:48:57 You know, now he walks down,
00:48:57 --> 00:49:03 he walks through the tunnels like he's a player, you know, and he comes in with
00:49:03 --> 00:49:06 this little stroll or whatever, like LeBron or somebody.
00:49:07 --> 00:49:11 Please, man, please, please. I know you have a voice, and I know you're trying
00:49:11 --> 00:49:13 to get yourself noticed.
00:49:14 --> 00:49:18 But come on, man, you got to stop it. I've seen some of the things that he said.
00:49:18 --> 00:49:20 What do you call him? Roland Smith.
00:49:21 --> 00:49:26 He, he, I mean, Roland Hall, Roland Hall,
00:49:27 --> 00:49:32 went in on him. Did you see what Roland Hall was saying about him? No, who was Roland Hall?
00:49:33 --> 00:49:36 You know, he has a commentary show.
00:49:36 --> 00:49:42 He used to be on Tom Joyner's show, but he does a lot of commentary and so forth.
00:49:43 --> 00:49:47 But he was talking about Stephen A. And he kind of broke down,
00:49:47 --> 00:49:50 especially when he started talking about Jackson Crockett, because actually,
00:49:50 --> 00:49:54 he's from that same... He grew up...
00:49:55 --> 00:50:02 He grew up in the same district that Jasmine Crockett was the representative of.
00:50:04 --> 00:50:07 And so Stephen A. was talking all this mess about Jasmine Crockett and throwing
00:50:07 --> 00:50:11 all these numbers around. And Stephen A. was so wrong because he had the actual numbers.
00:50:12 --> 00:50:16 And he said, how do I know all of this, Stephen A.? He said,
00:50:16 --> 00:50:24 because I actually live here. I actually live in a district that she is in control of.
00:50:25 --> 00:50:28 You don't know anything about this woman.
00:50:29 --> 00:50:32 I said Roland Hall. I'm sorry. Roland Martin. I was like, what?
00:50:32 --> 00:50:36 Roland Martin. I'm sorry. Okay. I know Roland Smith. I know.
00:50:37 --> 00:50:41 I know. I made up a name. Sorry about that. It's Leonard's fault,
00:50:41 --> 00:50:42 people. It's Leonard's fault.
00:50:43 --> 00:50:47 Roland Martin. But did you ever see Roland Martin talking about him? Yeah. Yeah, I did.
00:50:48 --> 00:50:50 Because that's why when he's talking about living in his district, I was like, hold up.
00:50:51 --> 00:50:54 Oh, yeah. Roland Martin. Yeah, yeah. He went in on him. He said,
00:50:55 --> 00:50:57 man, this dude don't even live here. He's talking about her.
00:50:58 --> 00:50:59 You know, so he said, you don't know what she's talking about.
00:50:59 --> 00:51:03 Done for this area. So what's your thoughts on Stephen A?
00:51:04 --> 00:51:07 Do you think he's trying to get, do you think this is all clickbait to try and
00:51:07 --> 00:51:15 get people, you know, to follow him and to get his numbers up as far as making this political, right?
00:51:15 --> 00:51:20 You know, Dave, I'm really not sure because if you turn off all the black people,
00:51:20 --> 00:51:21 who's going to vote for you?
00:51:21 --> 00:51:25 I mean, I feel like there's not enough white people that are going to vote for
00:51:25 --> 00:51:30 him to, for him to get elected, you know? And two, so do I feel like it's a ploy?
00:51:31 --> 00:51:35 I want to say no, but to be honest, I just don't understand his rhetoric,
00:51:36 --> 00:51:41 how he goes about deciding what he says and then expects certain results.
00:51:42 --> 00:51:47 Because, Dave, I mean, if you think about what black politician has he spoken highly of?
00:51:48 --> 00:51:53 Yeah, he hasn't talked about anybody. Every time I thought around and he's talking
00:51:53 --> 00:51:56 about somebody, he's talking about them. He's not complimenting them.
00:51:56 --> 00:51:59 He's not agreeing with them. He's talking about them.
00:52:01 --> 00:52:06 And, you know, but yet when it comes to President Trump and some of the things
00:52:06 --> 00:52:10 that Trump has done, whatever, I never hear him say anything negative against them.
00:52:11 --> 00:52:14 Right. You know, it is interesting.
00:52:14 --> 00:52:20 Now, like I said, now this could all be a ploy, maybe to get people,
00:52:20 --> 00:52:24 you know, get everybody to follow him like our buddy does on Facebook,
00:52:24 --> 00:52:26 if you know who I'm talking about. Right.
00:52:27 --> 00:52:29 No. What are you talking about?
00:52:30 --> 00:52:34 Who's the Trump supporter on Facebook? Oh, okay. I know what you're talking about.
00:52:35 --> 00:52:39 Okay. And you see how he pulls people in? Mm-hmm.
00:52:40 --> 00:52:43 And throws a question out there that nobody answers, but he says,
00:52:44 --> 00:52:45 see, nobody answers the question.
00:52:45 --> 00:52:51 You know, I think that's what Stephen A. Smith is doing. That same type of move, that same type of ploy.
00:52:52 --> 00:52:55 You know, to get people to tune in, to get people to talk about it,
00:52:55 --> 00:52:58 and to try to make himself look good by...
00:52:59 --> 00:53:02 He's throwing out the rhetoric that he's been throwing out, even though half
00:53:02 --> 00:53:04 of it is factual and most of it isn't.
00:53:05 --> 00:53:07 I'd say most of it is non-factual, I should say.
00:53:08 --> 00:53:13 So, you know, if this is something that he really wants, if he really wants
00:53:13 --> 00:53:17 to do the politics and everything,
00:53:18 --> 00:53:26 he needs to endear himself more to the people that he's going to need to vote for.
00:53:26 --> 00:53:29 Right. I agree with that. you know because.
00:53:30 --> 00:53:35 You know if he keeps going the way that he's going he won't get our boat definitely
00:53:35 --> 00:53:40 he definitely won't and he won't get the boat of the people that he needs the
00:53:40 --> 00:53:41 most you know who that is?
00:53:41 --> 00:53:50 Black women black women yeah that's right so you go anywhere you know if you go to an event,
00:53:50 --> 00:54:00 any type of event that we're doing who's 70% of the room or 80% of the room black women. Yeah.
00:54:01 --> 00:54:06 Okay. So I'm just saying, if he's smart, he better go ahead and start changing his tune.
00:54:07 --> 00:54:10 So that's all I got to say about that.
00:54:11 --> 00:54:15 Oh, look at this. That brings us to Leonard Traver, part of the show.
00:54:16 --> 00:54:20 He's been sad because we haven't done one in a while, so I'm gonna...
00:54:21 --> 00:54:22 You think so? I don't know.
00:54:26 --> 00:54:33 He didn't mean that folks he really didn't okay but Dave Corner question for Leonard today,
00:54:35 --> 00:54:39 And I just thought this being, I kind of heard this question earlier, so I figured I'd ask you.
00:54:39 --> 00:54:48 If you had a chance to run one of the most, one of the major franchises in the
00:54:48 --> 00:54:51 world, which one would it be?
00:54:52 --> 00:54:56 And what would you do to make it different from what it is now?
00:54:57 --> 00:55:02 So this would have to be a franchise. We're not talking about Amazon, okay?
00:55:02 --> 00:55:06 Not talking about Apple, you know, because those are companies,
00:55:06 --> 00:55:09 but I'm talking about franchises. Okay. You know what, Dave?
00:55:11 --> 00:55:13 I would take the NBA. The NBA?
00:55:14 --> 00:55:17 Yeah, because, you know, them teams are franchises. Yeah, okay.
00:55:17 --> 00:55:21 So, you want to own every team?
00:55:22 --> 00:55:25 Well, no, Dave. You own one of the teams.
00:55:26 --> 00:55:29 You can't. The NBA is a business. You would have to own one of the teams.
00:55:29 --> 00:55:34 Oh, I can't take the whole NBA? No, you can't have the whole NBA.
00:55:34 --> 00:55:37 All right, because Dave, I had a great idea for the whole NBA.
00:55:37 --> 00:55:42 Okay, go ahead. This is what you want to do. Go ahead. So I'm going to take the whole NBA.
00:55:45 --> 00:55:50 Okay. You know the NBA has been like trying to break into Africa with some teams
00:55:50 --> 00:55:54 and, you know, probably a recruiting portal.
00:55:54 --> 00:55:57 Mm-hmm. Because there's like an NBA Africa.
00:55:57 --> 00:56:04 Right. So what I would do is I would try to expand that to all the main continents,
00:56:04 --> 00:56:06 whether it's kind of like an NBA, Europe,
00:56:07 --> 00:56:13 NBA, Asia, NBA, South America, NBA, Australia.
00:56:15 --> 00:56:21 And I would have them all play as normal. And then there would actually be a world championship.
00:56:21 --> 00:56:27 So almost like, you know, instead of just a team being like winning the U.S.
00:56:27 --> 00:56:33 Championships, then they would go on to play for the world NBA world championship somewhere.
00:56:34 --> 00:56:38 Now, do you think, I mean, that's not a bad idea.
00:56:38 --> 00:56:42 I like it, actually. But do you think that would hurt the Olympics?
00:56:42 --> 00:56:45 Because that's basically what happens in the Olympics.
00:56:46 --> 00:56:49 No, because, I mean, think about it. The World Cup, does the World Cup,
00:56:49 --> 00:56:51 like, stop soccer at the Olympics?
00:56:51 --> 00:56:54 Yeah. No? You know, like the World Track and Field Championships,
00:56:55 --> 00:56:57 does that stop? No? No, not really.
00:56:58 --> 00:56:59 Yeah. Okay. All right.
00:57:00 --> 00:57:04 Look at Leonard. I'm throwing his points for ideal in here. Believe me.
00:57:04 --> 00:57:08 Don't be trying to steal my idea either. That's big for him.
00:57:08 --> 00:57:12 Anyway. All right. Let me see. as far as myself.
00:57:13 --> 00:57:19 Let me see. You know what? I'm going to take the most obvious franchise because
00:57:19 --> 00:57:21 I think they need to change some things.
00:57:22 --> 00:57:24 I already know you guys say Boston Market. Go ahead.
00:57:25 --> 00:57:31 No, not Boston Market. McDonald's. I think McDonald's has fallen off.
00:57:31 --> 00:57:36 Even though they're still the top franchise in the world, you know, as far as we know.
00:57:37 --> 00:57:42 And, well, they definitely have more places in the world than anyone else.
00:57:43 --> 00:57:48 I just think that, first of all, I would go back to what they used to do with
00:57:48 --> 00:57:50 their value meals and so forth.
00:57:51 --> 00:57:57 I would change their burgers and maybe look at doing some different things,
00:57:58 --> 00:58:05 make it a little more appealing based on the places or the areas that people lived in,
00:58:06 --> 00:58:11 and probably give some more nutritionist type information.
00:58:13 --> 00:58:18 Venue items, I mean, as far as that's concerned. Because McDonald's is always
00:58:18 --> 00:58:19 going to attract people.
00:58:20 --> 00:58:25 When you're traveling, you know there's one place you want to run into is a McDonald's home.
00:58:26 --> 00:58:31 Yeah. And that's what's made it so successful over the years.
00:58:31 --> 00:58:33 You still haven't seen the movie The Founder yet, have you?
00:58:34 --> 00:58:36 Yeah, I've been. Okay, yeah.
00:58:36 --> 00:58:40 That movie just says a lot about how to run a business.
00:58:40 --> 00:58:44 And, you know, well, how to steal a business, too. That's a whole other story.
00:58:44 --> 00:58:48 But that guy, he was a smart dude. He was a smart dude.
00:58:49 --> 00:58:55 And McDonald's became who they became just because of the forward thinking that he had.
00:58:57 --> 00:59:03 After stealing it from the brothers, you know. But I think I would take McDonald's
00:59:03 --> 00:59:10 and then I would also make it, you know, in certain areas, like in the rural areas,
00:59:10 --> 00:59:15 you know, I would make it based on, I would have the type of food that would appeal to them.
00:59:15 --> 00:59:22 If it was in a more rich area, affluent area, then I would have the stuff that
00:59:22 --> 00:59:27 would appeal to them, you know, kind of make it based on the area that they're in.
00:59:27 --> 00:59:33 You know, look, have some peas and rice and some Jamaican food up in there,
00:59:33 --> 00:59:35 you know, in the hood, you know.
00:59:35 --> 00:59:40 And then, you know, I think I would take McDonald's just moving along.
00:59:40 --> 00:59:44 I mean, one thing McDonald's has always been on top of, and I have to give him
00:59:44 --> 00:59:46 credit, even to this day.
00:59:46 --> 00:59:53 As far as the technology, they've always been advanced as far as the technology
00:59:53 --> 00:59:57 is concerned. Even to this day, they still, like the other franchises,
00:59:57 --> 00:59:59 they do pretty well with technology.
00:59:59 --> 01:00:03 But, you know, McDonald's, you know, they're always a step ahead of everybody
01:00:03 --> 01:00:06 when it comes to technology, you know? I agree.
01:00:06 --> 01:00:10 You know, Dave, you actually have a good point because, you know,
01:00:10 --> 01:00:14 one of the things I noticed about McDonald's is when you talked about even just
01:00:14 --> 01:00:17 making it a little healthier, they don't have salads anymore.
01:00:18 --> 01:00:21 Like every time I go, it's like either they're out, it's not on the menu.
01:00:22 --> 01:00:26 So it's kind of like, okay, like, you know, do you have any straight up healthy options?
01:00:28 --> 01:00:30 Yeah, and you can't even get ice cream.
01:00:32 --> 01:00:38 The ice cream machine is always there. But yeah, and that's what I'm talking about.
01:00:38 --> 01:00:42 Yeah, those type of things are very important, you know, when it comes to,
01:00:42 --> 01:00:47 especially today, you know, because a lot of the food is processed anyway.
01:00:47 --> 01:00:52 So if somebody wants to come in and get a garden salad, they should be able to get it, you know?
01:00:53 --> 01:00:57 So, but yeah, so that would be, that would be my choices, regardless.
01:00:58 --> 01:01:02 You guys give us your ideas of what you would franchise that you would like
01:01:02 --> 01:01:06 to have and change to make it your own.
01:01:06 --> 01:01:09 Let us know what you're thinking. Okay.
01:01:10 --> 01:01:14 All right. I guess that brings us to the end of the show.
01:01:15 --> 01:01:19 We appreciate you guys and taking the time to listen to us once again.
01:01:19 --> 01:01:21 We always appreciate you tuning in.
01:01:21 --> 01:01:23 Len, you got anything to add before we sign off?
01:01:24 --> 01:01:27 I just want to remind everybody that, of course, this is Martin Luther King weekend.
01:01:28 --> 01:01:33 That Monday is unofficially the National Day of Service. So hopefully everybody
01:01:33 --> 01:01:36 can get out and do something where they get back to the community.
01:01:37 --> 01:01:39 Are you going to be in Atlanta that Monday?
01:01:41 --> 01:01:44 No, I'll be here. So I'll probably be looking for a community event,
01:01:44 --> 01:01:47 something to do. I know there'll probably be a lot of advertising.
01:01:47 --> 01:01:53 All right. Well, let me know if you find one. Maybe I'll hang out with you if you allow me to.
01:01:53 --> 01:01:56 Yeah, yeah, definitely. I was thinking about organizing a group when we go down
01:01:56 --> 01:02:01 to GNR Campground. and like do some leaves and, you know, kind of help out the
01:02:01 --> 01:02:03 black community at GMR Canberra.
01:02:03 --> 01:02:07 We're not, this is Martin Luther King's birthday, not plantation day.
01:02:07 --> 01:02:10 So keep that in mind, okay?
01:02:10 --> 01:02:14 All right. So, all right, folks. Well, there you have it.
01:02:15 --> 01:02:19 We thank you again for listening and we will talk to you next week.
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