Nurses Declassified? Student Loan Shake-Up Sparks Outrage

Nurses Declassified? Student Loan Shake-Up Sparks Outrage

Hosts Dave and Leonard celebrate their anniversary and cover major stories: the Education Department's plan to exclude nursing from professional degree status and new loan caps, a young UK hairstylist repeatedly dismissed until diagnosed with stage 4 angiosarcoma, rising GOP dissatisfaction over Trump and "America First," and Lupita Nyong'o's account of post‑Oscar typecasting.

The episode blends politics, healthcare, culture, and personal updates with listener interaction in "Dave's Corner," plus Thanksgiving messages and calls for community action.


00:00:31 --> 00:00:34 Welcome, welcome, welcome to News and Trends with Dave and Len.
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00:01:35 --> 00:01:38 What's going on, Mr. Leonard Young? What's happening?
00:01:38 --> 00:01:42 Hey, Dave. Everything is good. This is Leonard Young, CEO of National Black
00:01:42 --> 00:01:48 Guide, DelawareBlack.com, Black media specialist, all-around good guy.
00:01:48 --> 00:01:53 How goes it, Dave? man I can't call it it's a rainy Tuesday night.
00:01:54 --> 00:01:59 And what can we say? A couple of days after the Eagles lose to the Cowboys,
00:01:59 --> 00:02:03 what a horrible feeling, you know, when we lose to the Cowboys.
00:02:04 --> 00:02:10 But we're still here, man. We're still here, you know, live in effect. What can we say?
00:02:10 --> 00:02:12 Yeah, yeah. Y'all ain't die.
00:02:14 --> 00:02:19 Nah. Nah. Well, you know, when the Eagles lose to the Cowboys,
00:02:19 --> 00:02:24 there's a lot of us feel like we died. I mean, I was watching a video clip,
00:02:24 --> 00:02:28 Gilly, you know, Gilly and Wallow.
00:02:28 --> 00:02:33 They were just sitting there staring at the TV. You know, you could tell Gilly
00:02:33 --> 00:02:36 was about to explode, man. He was so mad, you know.
00:02:36 --> 00:02:40 So, you know, people, you know, people, people, this is a way of life for some
00:02:40 --> 00:02:42 people, man, especially that game, you know.
00:02:42 --> 00:02:47 So, and right now the Eagles don't look like they're playing as well as they
00:02:47 --> 00:02:50 did last year. Hopefully they'll get themselves together.
00:02:51 --> 00:02:55 Because, you know, playoffs will be coming soon. And, you know,
00:02:55 --> 00:02:58 we don't want them going out like frauds. You know what I mean?
00:02:58 --> 00:03:02 So, you know, so let's go birds. They play this Friday against Chicago.
00:03:02 --> 00:03:04 Let's see what happens. So.
00:03:06 --> 00:03:09 Everything all right with you yeah everything's good
00:03:09 --> 00:03:13 just this uh shortened week is already messing up my timeline all day today
00:03:13 --> 00:03:19 i'll swear i mean minus the podcast i was swearing today was wednesday so i
00:03:19 --> 00:03:22 was trying to do all my wednesday stuff so when i found out today was actually
00:03:22 --> 00:03:27 tuesday kind of felt a little relieved gave me an extra day to get some stuff done,
00:03:28 --> 00:03:31 It did seem like, you know what, I kind of concur with you.
00:03:31 --> 00:03:35 It did seem like it was a Wednesday. It did seem that way.
00:03:36 --> 00:03:40 I guess everybody's rushing to get the week over with because a lot of people
00:03:40 --> 00:03:42 are off on Thursday and Friday.
00:03:42 --> 00:03:48 So, you know, and I know with the state of Delaware, we're off on Thursday and Friday.
00:03:49 --> 00:03:55 So, you know, so Wednesday is our Friday this week. So we're looking to hurry
00:03:55 --> 00:03:59 up and get through that day. so I have a,
00:03:59 --> 00:04:02 The only thing is, I got, man, so I got so much work to do.
00:04:02 --> 00:04:09 This whole thing with the lockout and all of that stuff has really created a
00:04:09 --> 00:04:11 lot of work for us. And you know what I mean?
00:04:12 --> 00:04:16 So especially when it comes to the SNAP benefits and all of that stuff.
00:04:17 --> 00:04:21 So it's been kind of interesting. And, you know, now we're trying to play catch
00:04:21 --> 00:04:24 up on everything. So that's where we are now.
00:04:25 --> 00:04:30 Gotcha. Okay. Sounds fun. Yeah. Yeah. What can we say? What can we say?
00:04:31 --> 00:04:38 Do you have any plans for the holiday? Going to visit some of Yolanda's family. So that's about it.
00:04:39 --> 00:04:42 I'm so happy about it. Okay. Yeah. Well, no, no, it's not that.
00:04:42 --> 00:04:45 It's just, you know, the years flying by.
00:04:45 --> 00:04:49 Have you ever looked at stuff and like, you just know you're not getting done.
00:04:49 --> 00:04:52 Like every day there's stuff that's still on your plate.
00:04:53 --> 00:04:56 You know, it's like even today, you know, I'm tired, but I'm trying to think,
00:04:57 --> 00:04:58 okay, Like, what do I need to do for tomorrow?
00:04:58 --> 00:05:03 Okay, what do we need to do Thursday, Friday, Saturday? So that's it.
00:05:04 --> 00:05:07 Yeah, well, I get it. Like I said, man.
00:05:07 --> 00:05:12 And, you know, my thing is all the work I got to get done at work.
00:05:13 --> 00:05:17 And, you know, but we'll see. We'll see what happens. I mean,
00:05:17 --> 00:05:19 look, it ain't going nowhere. It'll be there.
00:05:20 --> 00:05:24 You know, so I'll go in on Saturday and get some of it done.
00:05:24 --> 00:05:29 So Saturday is a good day to work for us because we're not being bothered by
00:05:29 --> 00:05:32 anybody and we can get a lot of stuff done on Saturday.
00:05:32 --> 00:05:35 So, but we'll see. We'll see what happens.
00:05:36 --> 00:05:37 All right. Well,
00:05:38 --> 00:05:43 Let me say this. We let this kind of slip by us again.
00:05:43 --> 00:05:52 And just wanted to make sure to say happy anniversary to News and Trends with Dave and Lynn.
00:05:53 --> 00:05:58 Our anniversary month was this month. And since there's a lot of people celebrating
00:05:58 --> 00:06:02 anniversaries, like all the, you know, between now and next month,
00:06:02 --> 00:06:08 all the frats and the sororities are, you know, celebrating their anniversaries and so forth.
00:06:08 --> 00:06:12 But we actually celebrated our anniversary this year.
00:06:12 --> 00:06:18 We got through a full four years and just started our fifth year.
00:06:18 --> 00:06:24 And I just want to say to everyone out there, thank you for taking the time to listen to the show.
00:06:24 --> 00:06:29 For those of you who always gives us, you know, feedback and so forth.
00:06:29 --> 00:06:34 And for those of you who have been with us from day one, we really appreciate you guys.
00:06:35 --> 00:06:39 And, you know, thank you for keeping us encouraged to do this show.
00:06:40 --> 00:06:45 You know, it's kind of a, you know, Leonard and I try to bring things to you
00:06:45 --> 00:06:49 that a lot of people, you know, don't always talk about and so forth.
00:06:49 --> 00:06:53 And, you know, of course, you know, we have some of our favorite things to talk
00:06:53 --> 00:06:56 about on a regular basis. We can't seem to get away from them, you know.
00:06:57 --> 00:07:00 So, but thank you. I know I want to say thank you.
00:07:00 --> 00:07:05 And I'm sure Leonard wants to say thank you as well in reference to the years.
00:07:05 --> 00:07:09 Thank you to my partner for putting
00:07:09 --> 00:07:12 up with me all this time and me having to put up with you and
00:07:12 --> 00:07:16 you know here's to another year doing
00:07:16 --> 00:07:19 doing this podcast okay well
00:07:19 --> 00:07:25 well said dave i couldn't have said any better myself if i said it on two lips
00:07:25 --> 00:07:31 yeah there you go that's my part of people that's what he does okay all right
00:07:31 --> 00:07:36 so i guess with that being said we got a few things to talk to you about today.
00:07:38 --> 00:07:44 This first story, you know, I know for those who've been listening to the show
00:07:44 --> 00:07:47 for a long time, people might've heard me mention that I was,
00:07:47 --> 00:07:48 I used to teach in the healthcare field.
00:07:49 --> 00:07:53 So the story was a little personal for me. And then I know quite a few nurses and so forth.
00:07:54 --> 00:08:01 And I don't know if you guys have been listening that Trump wants to declassify nurses.
00:08:02 --> 00:08:07 So there was a story that I wanted to kind of read from a little bit.
00:08:07 --> 00:08:14 It says the Trump administration excludes nursing teaching from professional
00:08:14 --> 00:08:17 degree lists. And here's why.
00:08:17 --> 00:08:23 He said, there's a coalition of nursing and other healthcare organizations that
00:08:23 --> 00:08:29 are angry over Trump's administration plan that could limit access to student loans in some cases.
00:08:31 --> 00:08:34 Students pursuing graduate degrees in nursing, physical therapy,
00:08:35 --> 00:08:41 public health, and some other fields would face tighter federal student loan
00:08:41 --> 00:08:48 limits under the plan because it doesn't consider them professional degrees.
00:08:49 --> 00:08:54 Now, I got to stop right there. If nursing is not a professional degree.
00:08:54 --> 00:08:56 That's crazy. All right. Okay.
00:08:57 --> 00:09:02 That's all I got to say. It says, the revamp is a part of the Trump's big,
00:09:02 --> 00:09:10 beautiful bill, the BBB, while graduate students could previously borrow loans up to.
00:09:11 --> 00:09:16 To the cost of their degree, the new rules would set caps depending on whether
00:09:16 --> 00:09:20 the degree is considered a graduate or a professional program.
00:09:20 --> 00:09:25 The education department is defining the following fields as professional programs.
00:09:25 --> 00:09:30 Pharmacy, Dentistry, Veterinarian Medicine,
00:09:31 --> 00:09:39 Chiropractic, Law, Medicine, Optometry, Osteopathic Medicine,
00:09:40 --> 00:09:42 Podiatry, and Theology.
00:09:42 --> 00:09:50 That's an interesting group. It is. But nursing is not considered to be a professional degree.
00:09:50 --> 00:09:56 Okay. Okay, left out on nursing, physical therapy, dental hygiene,
00:09:57 --> 00:10:03 occupational therapy, and social work, as well as fields outside of the health
00:10:03 --> 00:10:10 care, such as architecture and education, along with accounting. What in the world?
00:10:11 --> 00:10:16 Now, those are some of the hardest degrees to get. I know, they are.
00:10:16 --> 00:10:18 He don't care.
00:10:20 --> 00:10:27 It said, while the plan is being finalized, the new student loan caps would take effect next July.
00:10:27 --> 00:10:30 Now, it says, why is this happening?
00:10:30 --> 00:10:35 The Trump administration says limits on graduate loans are needed to reduce tuition costs.
00:10:35 --> 00:10:41 It believes that capping students' loans would push universities charging higher
00:10:41 --> 00:10:45 than average tuition to look at lowering their rates.
00:10:46 --> 00:10:55 Now, another reason that Trump wants to do this and this type of thing is because
00:10:55 --> 00:10:59 of the nursing scandal that happened in Florida.
00:10:59 --> 00:11:02 And you and I talked about this nursing scandal.
00:11:03 --> 00:11:08 And all these fake degrees that were given out, there's been a lot of issues
00:11:08 --> 00:11:12 with a lot of these nurses who have worked in hospitals and doctor's offices
00:11:12 --> 00:11:15 and so forth, who really don't have the real,
00:11:16 --> 00:11:22 education, and know-how to be able to do these jobs. And that's causing a lot of issues.
00:11:22 --> 00:11:25 There's been a lot of malpractice suits and so forth. You know,
00:11:26 --> 00:11:31 now, and it also has come out that a lot of these fake degrees that these people
00:11:31 --> 00:11:36 paid for were Black nurses. So here we go again.
00:11:37 --> 00:11:41 Now, this story has given us the professional look.
00:11:41 --> 00:11:44 It says, what does this mean for students? Some future students can find it
00:11:44 --> 00:11:48 more costly or difficult to pursue a specialized degree.
00:11:49 --> 00:11:53 Under the new plan, students in professional programs would be able to borrow
00:11:53 --> 00:11:57 anywhere from $50 a year up to $200 in total.
00:11:58 --> 00:12:02 Other graduate students, such as those pursuing nursing and physical therapy,
00:12:03 --> 00:12:09 would be limited to $20 a year and up to $100.
00:12:10 --> 00:12:15 That's half, just, well, less than half, really, if you look at it.
00:12:15 --> 00:12:19 The Trump administration is saying that the impact will be minimal.
00:12:20 --> 00:12:24 Health groups say change will worsen the nursing shortage. Now,
00:12:24 --> 00:12:27 we know there's a nursing shortage all over right now.
00:12:27 --> 00:12:32 You go in these hospitals, you know, you got one nurse taking care of like 10
00:12:32 --> 00:12:36 to 20 people, You know, at one time, because these hospitals,
00:12:36 --> 00:12:42 because of COVID, because of flu and all the other illnesses and whatever, are still full.
00:12:42 --> 00:12:44 I mean, we still have full hospitals.
00:12:45 --> 00:12:50 And you got one nurse that's kind of running around taking care of a bunch of people.
00:12:51 --> 00:12:56 Because they can't, you know, they're having a hard time filling the nurses
00:12:56 --> 00:13:03 or being able to come up with the people that have the right.
00:13:05 --> 00:13:11 Education, also know-how, because a lot of these hospitals want people that
00:13:11 --> 00:13:12 they don't have to train.
00:13:12 --> 00:13:17 They want them to come right in and be able to do the job. But unfortunately,
00:13:17 --> 00:13:18 that's not what's happening.
00:13:19 --> 00:13:25 And it's really a shame. And we have to deal with what they've been dealing with.
00:13:25 --> 00:13:29 But with all that this has been said, and I've talked to a couple of my friends
00:13:29 --> 00:13:34 that are nurses, and they're really upset about it because it's making them look bad.
00:13:35 --> 00:13:40 You know, and they're trying to say that they definitely are not qualified to
00:13:40 --> 00:13:43 have these jobs. What do you think about all of this?
00:13:43 --> 00:13:50 I mean, I think it's just crazy. You know, all of the professions that he said
00:13:50 --> 00:13:53 seem professional to me, you know.
00:13:54 --> 00:13:56 No, Dave, I'm not going to lie. The theology, you know, like.
00:13:57 --> 00:14:01 Oh, don't talk about theology, man. You're going to get some people jumping on your hands.
00:14:01 --> 00:14:08 I know, but I understand. But, you know, in my mind, that that would be the
00:14:08 --> 00:14:11 one that would be most in line with what he said.
00:14:11 --> 00:14:15 And I get it. I get it. Blame it on my ignorance.
00:14:16 --> 00:14:22 Text Dave to voice all you. But yeah, I mean, I just think it's crazy because I know.
00:14:22 --> 00:14:27 And, you know, when I was in school, Dave, you know, them nursing students be working hard.
00:14:27 --> 00:14:32 And the classes, the entry-level classes they take are some of the same classes
00:14:32 --> 00:14:37 that, you know, doctors are taking, medical students, people in the medical
00:14:37 --> 00:14:39 field. You know, they're all kind of related.
00:14:39 --> 00:14:46 I heard one thing saying that, and Dave, can you read all the degree fields again?
00:14:46 --> 00:14:48 Yeah, okay. That's no problem.
00:14:49 --> 00:14:52 So he said, okay, these are the ones.
00:14:53 --> 00:14:58 That he defines as professional programs. Pharmacy, dentistry,
00:14:59 --> 00:15:07 veterinarian medicine, chiropractic, then law, medicine, optometry,
00:15:08 --> 00:15:12 osteopathic medicine, podiatry, and theology.
00:15:12 --> 00:15:16 These are the ones that he deems as professional programs.
00:15:17 --> 00:15:20 What he doesn't deem as professional programs are these.
00:15:20 --> 00:15:29 Nursing physical therapy dental hygiene occupational therapy and social work
00:15:29 --> 00:15:34 and then he said as well as fields outside of healthcare such as architecture and.
00:15:35 --> 00:15:41 Education, and accounting. Okay, yeah, dude. I just think that's crazy. Accounting?
00:15:41 --> 00:15:44 Come on, you can't tell me accounting is not a real degree. Yeah,
00:15:44 --> 00:15:47 I know. Them classes are hard. Yeah.
00:15:47 --> 00:15:51 Because, you know, at first, and I want you to reread it because I was trying
00:15:51 --> 00:15:55 to think in my head about what's the makeup of men and women.
00:15:55 --> 00:15:59 Like, is this a woman thing? Is this a black woman thing? But when you reread
00:15:59 --> 00:16:02 it, it doesn't make a damn bit of sense to me.
00:16:02 --> 00:16:05 No, it doesn't. Because that touches everybody. Yeah. Yeah, no,
00:16:06 --> 00:16:10 it definitely touches everybody. So, I mean, you know, I think it's crazy.
00:16:10 --> 00:16:17 I just feel like whatever he does in, what, two more years, three more years,
00:16:17 --> 00:16:19 it's going to change back.
00:16:19 --> 00:16:23 You know, once that next president get in, you know, it's going to change.
00:16:24 --> 00:16:28 You know, he's already trying to bully his way into a third term.
00:16:29 --> 00:16:33 I know. I mean, I don't think the people would let it happen.
00:16:34 --> 00:16:37 Yeah all right and we didn't think we didn't think
00:16:37 --> 00:16:40 he would get back in office either but he did yeah i
00:16:40 --> 00:16:43 i hear you yeah so i mean
00:16:43 --> 00:16:47 i'm sure those i'm sure those voting machines are already not working already
00:16:47 --> 00:16:55 you know yeah i'm sure yeah so but this is this is a mess and especially when
00:16:55 --> 00:16:59 you hear these these programs and everything that but you know this all goes
00:16:59 --> 00:17:03 back to the whole thing with the Department of Education because he wants to get rid of that as well.
00:17:04 --> 00:17:06 And, you know...
00:17:07 --> 00:17:11 I don't know how, see, people don't understand. You and I were talking about
00:17:11 --> 00:17:17 this well over a year ago when we were telling people they need to get out and vote.
00:17:18 --> 00:17:23 And, you know, we were talking about the lines and people, like.
00:17:23 --> 00:17:24 Where people were voting.
00:17:24 --> 00:17:27 Like, I told you, my building, them lines were long in my building.
00:17:27 --> 00:17:33 You know, when it came to the early voting and early registration and everything.
00:17:33 --> 00:17:37 And then but in Wilmington where
00:17:37 --> 00:17:40 there were a couple polling places you can go into
00:17:40 --> 00:17:43 you can walk right into the places you know because
00:17:43 --> 00:17:46 you know and and you know people just
00:17:46 --> 00:17:49 wasn't taking it as serious enough not when
00:17:49 --> 00:17:52 but like when Biden was put in
00:17:52 --> 00:17:55 office you know that was a big turnout that when
00:17:55 --> 00:17:59 Biden was elected but I don't
00:17:59 --> 00:18:02 know people just wasn't feeling Kamala but Kamala was trying
00:18:02 --> 00:18:05 to tell everybody she was trying to tell you everybody was
00:18:05 --> 00:18:08 trying to tell you about this big beautiful bill and and
00:18:08 --> 00:18:12 nobody was listening basically everything that
00:18:12 --> 00:18:15 has been laid out as far as that bill is concerned
00:18:15 --> 00:18:19 he he's putting in the effect now
00:18:19 --> 00:18:22 whether he's getting away with it or not we'll see what happens but
00:18:22 --> 00:18:25 you know but he always seems to get
00:18:25 --> 00:18:28 it out there before congress says hey you can't do that
00:18:28 --> 00:18:31 i don't understand how that happens either but
00:18:31 --> 00:18:34 that's a whole nother story so but folks
00:18:34 --> 00:18:37 pay attention if you have loved ones if you have
00:18:37 --> 00:18:42 if you have friends and family that are nurses and some of these other fields
00:18:42 --> 00:18:48 that he's trying to declassify you know you know you guys need to talk to your
00:18:48 --> 00:18:54 congressman you need to talk to your senate people you know and let's go so we'll see what happens.
00:18:56 --> 00:18:59 All right, we're going to move on to our next story. Let's see.
00:18:59 --> 00:19:02 I thought this was an interesting story as well.
00:19:02 --> 00:19:06 It goes, her pain was dismissed four times.
00:19:07 --> 00:19:11 A lie finally got doctors to discover her stage four cancer.
00:19:12 --> 00:19:21 Now, we all have heard stories about how cancer can lie underneath and so forth and so forth.
00:19:21 --> 00:19:24 And then when it's finally discovered, you find out it's stage four.
00:19:24 --> 00:19:26 And you'd be saying, how can that happen?
00:19:26 --> 00:19:32 I go to the doctor, you know, I do this, I do that. And how can they not know about this?
00:19:32 --> 00:19:36 So this story was pretty interesting, okay?
00:19:36 --> 00:19:44 And it's about a young lady. Her name is Nothando Nilesio, a 22-year-old hairstylist
00:19:44 --> 00:19:48 from Leicester, England, okay?
00:19:49 --> 00:19:54 It says a young black woman in the UK said she was dismissed by doctors four
00:19:54 --> 00:20:00 separate times before being diagnosed with stage 4 cancer and only after she
00:20:00 --> 00:20:02 lied to get the test she needed.
00:20:03 --> 00:20:07 She says she's a 22-year-old hairstylist from Leicester, England,
00:20:07 --> 00:20:13 and is now speaking out and urging others to advocate fiercely for their health
00:20:13 --> 00:20:19 after she repeated attempts to seek care and was brushed off.
00:20:21 --> 00:20:30 Ultimately delaying a diagnosis of stage 4 angiosarcoma, a rare aggressive cancer
00:20:30 --> 00:20:35 that forms in the lining of blood or lymph vessels.
00:20:35 --> 00:20:40 My whole thing is to raise awareness for this. Now, keep in mind,
00:20:40 --> 00:20:42 she's only 22 years old, folks, okay?
00:20:42 --> 00:20:48 For young people, for old people, for everyone to know that sarcoma is very
00:20:48 --> 00:20:51 dangerous, and it creeps upon you.
00:20:51 --> 00:20:56 It sometimes has no symptoms. You cannot feel anything until it's too late,
00:20:57 --> 00:20:59 which is what happened to me, she said.
00:21:00 --> 00:21:04 I spent a whole year fine, and then towards the end of the year,
00:21:04 --> 00:21:07 I start to have this crippling chronic back pain.
00:21:08 --> 00:21:13 And the next thing I know, doctors are telling me that there's nothing that they can do about it.
00:21:13 --> 00:21:21 It's at stage four, which is so scary to think about because it's like you have
00:21:21 --> 00:21:28 your whole life and suddenly it comes to a pause because something that came out of nowhere.
00:21:29 --> 00:21:30 In an interview with the son.
00:21:33 --> 00:21:38 The 20-something-year-old shared that her back pain first began in November
00:21:38 --> 00:21:44 2024 and despite returning to the doctor several more times through December
00:21:44 --> 00:21:47 2024 and January 2025, 25,
00:21:47 --> 00:21:51 she was repeatedly dismissed with nothing but pain medication.
00:21:52 --> 00:21:57 As the pain grew unbearable, she finally hatched the ideal to tell a small white
00:21:57 --> 00:22:04 lie, saying that she had fallen down the stairs, and that's when doctors finally
00:22:04 --> 00:22:06 ordered the proper scans.
00:22:07 --> 00:22:11 Imaging, I'm sorry, imagine in January 2025,
00:22:12 --> 00:22:19 no, imaging, I'm sorry, in January 2025, you feel multiple lesions in her spine
00:22:19 --> 00:22:24 and pelvis, along with a tumor on her left adrenal gland.
00:22:25 --> 00:22:32 And after additional testing, her medical team confirmed she had stage 4 angiosarcoma.
00:22:33 --> 00:22:37 She said that because the disease was centered in her spine,
00:22:38 --> 00:22:45 specialists told her there were limited treatment options and her prognosis is not favorable.
00:22:46 --> 00:22:50 They didn't give me any hope. They started me on palliative care,
00:22:50 --> 00:22:56 and I thought, are they not going to at least give me some options?
00:22:56 --> 00:23:02 They did offer me some radiotherapy and chemotherapy.
00:23:03 --> 00:23:07 And I had a lot of medication for pain management, she said.
00:23:07 --> 00:23:13 But by the time they told me what it was, they already had given me the impression
00:23:13 --> 00:23:15 that they had given up on me.
00:23:16 --> 00:23:20 As she began treatment, she launched a GoFundMe to help her cover her medical
00:23:20 --> 00:23:22 needs, travel, and living expenses.
00:23:23 --> 00:23:27 Life has drastically changed in so many ways, physically, mentally, and emotionally.
00:23:28 --> 00:23:33 From being a normal 22-year-old, enjoying life, running my own business as a
00:23:33 --> 00:23:39 hairstylist, going out with friends, and traveling to having stage 4 rare cancers,
00:23:39 --> 00:23:42 she wrote on the fundraiser.
00:23:42 --> 00:23:46 Never in my wildest dream would I ever expected this.
00:23:46 --> 00:23:48 I'm going to stop right there.
00:23:49 --> 00:23:58 It's a shame that we're still having issues with treatment when it comes to black women.
00:23:58 --> 00:24:03 How many times have we done stories about this, right?
00:24:04 --> 00:24:10 Yeah. I think that this is where we are.
00:24:11 --> 00:24:16 It seems like it keeps happening on a regular basis. Because now this woman
00:24:16 --> 00:24:23 four times tried to get them to do everything they can to try to find out what
00:24:23 --> 00:24:24 this pain was that she was having.
00:24:25 --> 00:24:30 And the fact that she had to lie to get the proper scans and x-rays that she
00:24:30 --> 00:24:36 needed to have only to find out, man, you got stage four cancer,
00:24:37 --> 00:24:41 a rare cancer at that. That's crazy. You know?
00:24:42 --> 00:24:47 So what does it say? about our health care system.
00:24:47 --> 00:24:50 Now, I just got finished doing the story about the nursing.
00:24:50 --> 00:24:58 But yet, the medicine programs are still being funded, but what good is the
00:24:58 --> 00:24:59 medicine programs being funded,
00:25:00 --> 00:25:04 if you're not going to get the care or the doctors are not doing everything
00:25:04 --> 00:25:09 they can to make sure that people are properly diagnosed,
00:25:10 --> 00:25:14 especially when somebody tells you there's something wrong with them. What's your thoughts?
00:25:15 --> 00:25:22 You know i mean first um because this lady was in england right yes so you know
00:25:22 --> 00:25:27 it's first of all it's just a shame that you know black people are treated this
00:25:27 --> 00:25:28 way all around the world and,
00:25:29 --> 00:25:37 you know people of darker skin color are treated like this i mean i think that's crazy and then,
00:25:38 --> 00:25:45 the mix the misdiagnosis to me that that sounds like that'd be a lawsuit yeah definitely you know
00:25:45 --> 00:25:53 I'm not sure how you could prove it, but if there was a doctor who was not knowledgeable
00:25:53 --> 00:26:00 about reading tests or what they were advising and it caused somebody to, you know,
00:26:00 --> 00:26:04 go through different stages of cancer during that in-between time,
00:26:05 --> 00:26:07 you know, I mean, that's almost like someone...
00:26:08 --> 00:26:13 You know, purposely sabotaging your life. You know, they're robbing you of the
00:26:13 --> 00:26:20 opportunity to get better care, different opinions by feeling that they were right.
00:26:20 --> 00:26:25 Now, I mean, at any time you have the option to, you know, get second opinions, but,
00:26:26 --> 00:26:32 you know, it's always weird how I was watching this video and it was a side-by-side
00:26:32 --> 00:26:38 of like a white woman experiencing pain and what the, the,
00:26:38 --> 00:26:41 like the nurse attendant would write down.
00:26:41 --> 00:26:45 And then when a black lady was experiencing pain, you know, it was totally different.
00:26:45 --> 00:26:47 Like white, white woman experiencing pain.
00:26:47 --> 00:26:52 It was like, Oh, she's in pain, something, something black woman experiencing pain.
00:26:52 --> 00:26:55 She's being erratic, you know, she's all over the place.
00:26:56 --> 00:27:00 And it's like, okay, but you know, you didn't say that for the white lady who
00:27:00 --> 00:27:01 has experienced the same type of pain.
00:27:02 --> 00:27:07 So I think it's hard. And I definitely believe if you have a problem with your
00:27:07 --> 00:27:12 doctor, you know, you should look for a black doctor, you know?
00:27:12 --> 00:27:14 And I mean, it may not be the cure-all.
00:27:14 --> 00:27:17 You may have to, you know, go through them and find the right one for you.
00:27:18 --> 00:27:26 But it just takes away some of the stereotypes that you'll be experiencing if you go other places.
00:27:27 --> 00:27:33 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because, I mean, you know, I told you, I think I mentioned
00:27:33 --> 00:27:37 to you about the friend of mine that her and her husband moved to Thailand a
00:27:37 --> 00:27:40 little over a year or so ago because of the health care.
00:27:40 --> 00:27:43 She was, you know, they she knew something was wrong with her,
00:27:43 --> 00:27:46 but they couldn't seem to figure it out.
00:27:46 --> 00:27:50 Finally, when they did figure it out, they tried to charge all this money to have the surgery and.
00:27:52 --> 00:27:58 $36, Leonard, for some type of surgery that she needed here in the States.
00:27:59 --> 00:28:03 And she went over to Thailand and had the same surgery with more things being
00:28:03 --> 00:28:08 done and only paid $1 in U.S. dollars. That's crazy.
00:28:09 --> 00:28:17 I know. It's really crazy. But this is, you know, we have to make sure that
00:28:17 --> 00:28:19 we're getting taken care of, folks.
00:28:20 --> 00:28:23 Nowadays especially when it comes to these cancers and
00:28:23 --> 00:28:27 you know cancer is very
00:28:27 --> 00:28:31 good at lying dormant underneath you
00:28:31 --> 00:28:35 know other things until something disturbs
00:28:35 --> 00:28:40 it and when it gets disturbed that's when it starts spreading and you know you
00:28:40 --> 00:28:46 got some issues that you know you're 22 two years old and you're being told
00:28:46 --> 00:28:51 only because you'd lie and said that, you know,
00:28:51 --> 00:28:55 you fell down some stairs and they, they finally looked at something different
00:28:55 --> 00:28:58 and then they find out what's wrong with you.
00:28:58 --> 00:29:01 And then you're being told that it's nothing they can do for you.
00:29:02 --> 00:29:07 That's, that's the craziest thing I couldn't even imagine, you know.
00:29:08 --> 00:29:11 I couldn't even imagine that, man. But anyway, I,
00:29:12 --> 00:29:17 This is where we are. We hope that this young lady gets, you know,
00:29:17 --> 00:29:23 is able to get some kind of help with maybe there's somebody out there that
00:29:23 --> 00:29:26 specializes in this type of cancer.
00:29:27 --> 00:29:30 And maybe they can figure out something to do to, you know, to,
00:29:30 --> 00:29:35 you know, help her and, you know, try to keep her, you know,
00:29:35 --> 00:29:37 going and staying alive.
00:29:38 --> 00:29:41 You know but you know definitely it's really it's really
00:29:41 --> 00:29:47 sad when you hear these kind of stories you know so all
00:29:47 --> 00:29:52 right okay what's your i think you have the next story what's going on yeah
00:29:52 --> 00:29:55 so dave so the next one is uh you know something i think is interesting kind
00:29:55 --> 00:30:01 of like i've said to you numerous times before you know i feel that trump the
00:30:01 --> 00:30:05 longer he's around the more and more people he's just going to piss off.
00:30:06 --> 00:30:12 And in the last week or so, there's been a hashtag that's been trending on Twitter.
00:30:13 --> 00:30:15 And the hashtag is America First.
00:30:16 --> 00:30:22 And a lot of the people posting these hashtags are Republicans slash MAGA supporters.
00:30:24 --> 00:30:29 And basically what they're saying is that they feel as though president Trump
00:30:29 --> 00:30:34 is not backing up his America first promise.
00:30:34 --> 00:30:40 So for instance, Dave, some of the things they're talking about is how he invited
00:30:40 --> 00:30:44 the, I don't know if you saw clips where he had the, the newly elected New York
00:30:44 --> 00:30:48 city mayor Mondani come to the white house.
00:30:48 --> 00:30:53 He was like smiling at him like a kid in a candy store, you know?
00:30:53 --> 00:30:57 And of course, you know, a lot of MAGA Republicans, you know,
00:30:57 --> 00:31:01 were very against Mondani because they felt like he's,
00:31:02 --> 00:31:04 You know how they like to call anyone who looks Middle Eastern,
00:31:04 --> 00:31:07 they like to call them terrorist and classify.
00:31:09 --> 00:31:13 So he's upset a lot of his base, you know, with that whole situation.
00:31:13 --> 00:31:19 And then I don't know if you saw where he and Marjorie Taylor Greene got into
00:31:19 --> 00:31:24 it and they were feuding. And then it looks like she tried to come back and
00:31:24 --> 00:31:27 kind of kisses, you know, kisses, but kiss up to him.
00:31:27 --> 00:31:32 And then she's stepping down from her position. And she did say that she will
00:31:32 --> 00:31:35 be retiring at the beginning of the year or stepping down from,
00:31:35 --> 00:31:37 you know, from politics.
00:31:37 --> 00:31:41 Yeah. And a lot of people. She's getting a nice little pension from that.
00:31:41 --> 00:31:48 You know, a lot of MAGA supporters were very upset about that because they considered
00:31:48 --> 00:31:53 Marjorie Taylor Greene a very strong supporter of MAGA.
00:31:53 --> 00:32:00 And the items that she disagreed over or she disagreed about with President
00:32:00 --> 00:32:06 Trump were strong MAGA items that a lot of these MAGA supporters, you know,
00:32:07 --> 00:32:10 wanted to, you know, support it or they support it.
00:32:10 --> 00:32:14 So, you know, a lot of people are just kind of upset with President Trump because,
00:32:14 --> 00:32:18 you know, they said Marjorie Taylor Greene was one of your biggest supporters
00:32:18 --> 00:32:21 for a long time. And, you know, she stands for America first.
00:32:22 --> 00:32:24 And he's arguing with her over America first issues.
00:32:25 --> 00:32:28 Then, you know, and we might have talked about it here, Dave,
00:32:28 --> 00:32:36 there were probably a couple of months ago when Qatar gave that like jumbo jet, big plane, 747.
00:32:38 --> 00:32:41 Personally to president Trump, not to America, but gave it to Trump.
00:32:42 --> 00:32:45 Yep. Yep. You know, a lot of people were complaining about that.
00:32:45 --> 00:32:47 And then I think it was Saudi Arabia.
00:32:47 --> 00:32:53 He offered them space out in the Midwest that they could, quote unquote,
00:32:53 --> 00:32:58 build a base or partner with some naval training. I mean, some Air Force training
00:32:58 --> 00:33:02 on a base here in America. So a lot of people were very upset about that.
00:33:03 --> 00:33:05 So, you know, long story short, you know, they, they,
00:33:06 --> 00:33:09 A lot of people, and I mean, you know, some of us, you know,
00:33:09 --> 00:33:12 we saw the light way back years and years ago.
00:33:12 --> 00:33:18 But there are a lot of Republicans and MAGA supporters that are throwing in
00:33:18 --> 00:33:21 the towel of their support for President Trump.
00:33:21 --> 00:33:26 You know, they say things like, you know, he's selling America,
00:33:26 --> 00:33:30 you know, and Dave, I don't know if you remember, you remember for one of those
00:33:30 --> 00:33:35 visa programs, he said, was it $5 and you can get a visa or $5 million?
00:33:36 --> 00:33:38 You know, selling America.
00:33:38 --> 00:33:45 And then last week he mentioned something about, and I forget the exact story,
00:33:45 --> 00:33:52 but he's long and short said there are no qualified workers here in America
00:33:52 --> 00:33:55 or not enough qualified workers here in America.
00:33:55 --> 00:33:57 And a lot of people got very upset.
00:33:58 --> 00:34:05 And he said, so he plans to bring in a lot of foreigners slash immigrants to
00:34:05 --> 00:34:09 kind of fill some of these, you know, probably like manufacturing blue collar
00:34:09 --> 00:34:12 jobs that we do not have enough people to fill.
00:34:13 --> 00:34:15 So, you know, he upset a lot of people there for two reasons.
00:34:15 --> 00:34:18 One, he's saying we don't have to qualify people.
00:34:19 --> 00:34:22 And he's bringing, you know, they, you know, these MAGA
00:34:22 --> 00:34:25 people don't like him bringing in all these immigrants and foreigners because
00:34:25 --> 00:34:28 I think one of the main countries that was targeting was india
00:34:28 --> 00:34:32 because you know bringing them for some of these tech jobs
00:34:32 --> 00:34:37 and all that so long story short dave a lot of people are becoming very upset
00:34:37 --> 00:34:43 about at him and they feel like he's getting a little too cozy with foreign
00:34:43 --> 00:34:49 government and their leaders and he's being overshadowed by foreign money so
00:34:49 --> 00:34:51 what's your take on all this.
00:34:52 --> 00:34:58 Well, I agree. I think he's being lured by the money outside the United States
00:34:58 --> 00:35:04 that, of course, he can basically use for himself.
00:35:04 --> 00:35:07 Because everything's about Donald Trump. We already know that.
00:35:08 --> 00:35:11 Everything's about Donald Trump, what you can do for me, and so forth.
00:35:11 --> 00:35:16 And when we look at the when we look at the things that he's done with some
00:35:16 --> 00:35:22 of these foreign leaders and you know you have somebody Qatar,
00:35:22 --> 00:35:25 you know Qatar is one of the richest places,
00:35:26 --> 00:35:32 you know, I mean that place, they balling in Qatar, I'm telling you that now
00:35:32 --> 00:35:35 so when you got somebody from Qatar giving you a whole plane,
00:35:35 --> 00:35:39 you know, and you know, they're saying hey you can use it, you know,
00:35:39 --> 00:35:43 do this and do that, you know, but You know,
00:35:43 --> 00:35:47 Trump, we know one thing about Trump. Trump is going where the money is.
00:35:47 --> 00:35:49 We already know that, you know.
00:35:49 --> 00:35:54 And whatever he can get out of it, that's what he's going to do. He's going to do that.
00:35:54 --> 00:35:57 He don't care about anything else but making himself look good.
00:35:58 --> 00:36:02 You know, the classic thing was when they were, where were they last week when
00:36:02 --> 00:36:06 the guy passed out? And Trump just kind of looked back.
00:36:07 --> 00:36:09 You know. That's crazy.
00:36:10 --> 00:36:15 And the look on his face is like, this guy's messing up my moment. You know? You know?
00:36:17 --> 00:36:19 And Trump barely said, is he all right?
00:36:20 --> 00:36:24 That's what he said. You know, is he all right? He does. But,
00:36:24 --> 00:36:28 you know, but this is all about him doing the things that he wants.
00:36:28 --> 00:36:32 You know, he done pissed off so many different people, even people in his own
00:36:32 --> 00:36:33 party, that whole thing.
00:36:34 --> 00:36:38 Whoever would have thought that him and Marjorie Taylor Greene wouldn't be on the same page. Come on.
00:36:39 --> 00:36:45 Whoever would have thought that so it's really a shame you know,
00:36:47 --> 00:36:52 When you turn on a TV each and every day, you cannot get through the day without
00:36:52 --> 00:36:55 hearing something about Donald Trump. Oh, yeah.
00:36:55 --> 00:37:05 Okay. And you can almost go to the casinos or one of the online betting services
00:37:05 --> 00:37:11 and do a prop bet on how many times you're going to hear Trump's name on TV
00:37:11 --> 00:37:14 or on social media in one day.
00:37:14 --> 00:37:18 You know because it's going to be many times now one
00:37:18 --> 00:37:21 thing he does is keep his name in the news you know
00:37:21 --> 00:37:24 keep itself relevant but it hasn't helped his approval rating because
00:37:24 --> 00:37:29 his approval rating right now they say it is at an all time low right now but
00:37:29 --> 00:37:33 that's because a lot of his people are getting tired of him too you know so
00:37:33 --> 00:37:41 it's very interesting and you know I have a feeling though he's setting us up
00:37:41 --> 00:37:43 for something really really big you know.
00:37:44 --> 00:37:48 And and yeah yeah and
00:37:48 --> 00:37:51 of course that's that's you know of course they're trying to you
00:37:51 --> 00:37:56 know they're trying to clean up those epstein falls right now so you know and
00:37:56 --> 00:38:01 and i think you know he's i think they're just setting up to give him the nobel
00:38:01 --> 00:38:05 peace prize and of course if he gets that that's going to make him look good
00:38:05 --> 00:38:10 you know you know because you know he he claims he stopped this war, he stopped that war,
00:38:11 --> 00:38:15 you know, all that stuff, he's up there blowing up ships that has fentanyl on
00:38:15 --> 00:38:16 it, and you wonder to yourself, hmm,
00:38:17 --> 00:38:19 why did you really do that?
00:38:20 --> 00:38:25 You know, so, I don't know, the whole thing's really weird to me,
00:38:26 --> 00:38:30 Leonard, I mean, this guy has way too much power, he gets away,
00:38:30 --> 00:38:33 you know, he gets away with too many things,
00:38:34 --> 00:38:41 and I mean he's basically dominated our stories tonight I mean you know the
00:38:41 --> 00:38:43 stuff that he's getting away with so you know,
00:38:45 --> 00:38:51 That's all I got to say about it. He can give you a migraine headache every
00:38:51 --> 00:38:52 day. You know what I mean?
00:38:53 --> 00:38:59 With the stuff you hear him say, with the stuff he does. So that's my thoughts. That's my thoughts.
00:39:01 --> 00:39:04 You got anything to add? No, enough said.
00:39:05 --> 00:39:08 We'll see what we talk about him about next week. Yeah, well,
00:39:08 --> 00:39:11 let's see if he puts America first, man. Let's see if he doesn't.
00:39:13 --> 00:39:16 Moving on to our last story of the night.
00:39:17 --> 00:39:21 I thought this was interesting. This has been one of our favorite people to
00:39:21 --> 00:39:22 talk about over the years.
00:39:23 --> 00:39:32 Miss Lupita Luongo reveals she was only offered slave roles after her historic Oscar win.
00:39:34 --> 00:39:40 So Lupita Luongo is sharing her experience navigating Hollywood after becoming
00:39:40 --> 00:39:41 an Academy Award winner.
00:39:41 --> 00:39:48 And her account reinforces long-standing concerns about how the industry treats Black actresses.
00:39:48 --> 00:39:55 During a recent CNN Inside Africa conversation, she recalled how in 2014,
00:39:55 --> 00:40:02 her Oscar victory didn't open doors to diverse opportunities as many might have expected.
00:40:02 --> 00:40:09 Instead of receiving varied role offers, Duongo found herself repeatedly pitched
00:40:09 --> 00:40:13 scripts centered around enslaved characters.
00:40:14 --> 00:40:19 The pattern was so disheartening, she said. After I won that Academy Award,
00:40:20 --> 00:40:22 you think I'm going to get the roles here and there.
00:40:22 --> 00:40:32 The 12 Years a Slave star said, Lupina, we'd like you to play in another movie where you play a slave.
00:40:32 --> 00:40:34 But this time, you're on a slave ship.
00:40:35 --> 00:40:42 Those were the type of roles I was getting offered after I won the Academy Award.
00:40:42 --> 00:40:48 Beyond the limiting casting opportunities Nwango also endured public speculation
00:40:48 --> 00:40:56 About her career longevity There were think pieces Is this the beginning of
00:40:56 --> 00:41:00 the end Of the dark-skinned black African woman's career?
00:41:01 --> 00:41:06 You know, saying that She basically was going to Only get those type of roles
00:41:06 --> 00:41:10 And nothing else was going to happen for her Because she was a dark-skinned black woman,
00:41:11 --> 00:41:16 If that means I work one job less than a year to ensure I'm not perpetuating
00:41:16 --> 00:41:21 the stereotypes that are expecting of people from my continent,
00:41:21 --> 00:41:23 then let me do that, she said.
00:41:24 --> 00:41:29 She, you know, Lupita Luongo has, you know,
00:41:30 --> 00:41:37 she has range, but, you know, we haven't seen her play a lawyer on TV or in
00:41:37 --> 00:41:40 a movie. We haven't seen her.
00:41:40 --> 00:41:45 I've never seen her play a cop or a judge.
00:41:45 --> 00:41:51 You know when we think about the roles we've seen her in you know,
00:41:52 --> 00:41:58 we've seen her in the Black Panther movies, we've seen her in 12 Years a Slave
00:41:58 --> 00:42:01 there was another movie oh, Django.
00:42:03 --> 00:42:08 And then what was The Quiet Place where she actually was playing a different
00:42:08 --> 00:42:13 character than those other characters we just mentioned but she didn't do a
00:42:13 --> 00:42:16 lot of talking in that movie because it was called A Quiet Place, you know?
00:42:17 --> 00:42:22 So, you know, so, and she wasn't glamorized in that movie.
00:42:22 --> 00:42:26 You know, she was, you know, because of the type of what was going on in that movie.
00:42:27 --> 00:42:31 So the roles that she's been offered and that she has played,
00:42:31 --> 00:42:33 even though she's played them very well,
00:42:34 --> 00:42:38 you know, you would think that she would get some better roles because we,
00:42:39 --> 00:42:43 you know, we've seen white actresses who will come out and do it.
00:42:45 --> 00:42:50 You know, Kim Kardashian is being lauded for the series that she's on now.
00:42:51 --> 00:42:57 That's why she's become this big actress. You know, because the few movies and
00:42:57 --> 00:43:00 roles she's been in, they've always panned her.
00:43:00 --> 00:43:02 You know, talked about she can't act and everything.
00:43:03 --> 00:43:09 But yet, she's getting a role as a lawyer on this new series she's on.
00:43:10 --> 00:43:14 You know? I mean, you know, it's just interesting. You know,
00:43:14 --> 00:43:17 because we've heard, what's her girl's name?
00:43:17 --> 00:43:20 Oh, my God. Name escapes me right now.
00:43:22 --> 00:43:25 The Academy Award winner, dark-skinned actress.
00:43:26 --> 00:43:30 Wow. That is so crazy. She was on How to Get Away with Murder.
00:43:31 --> 00:43:36 Oh, Angela Davis. I mean. Not Angela Bassett. No. No, no, no.
00:43:36 --> 00:43:42 Viola Davis. Viola Davis. Oh, my God. I'm getting old. I can't remember things anymore.
00:43:43 --> 00:43:48 Viola Davis has also talked about stuff like this, where she said that it took
00:43:48 --> 00:43:54 her a long time to be able to step into other roles other than a dark-skinned Black woman would play.
00:43:55 --> 00:44:01 Even Angela Davis, it took her a while to step up into some of these roles.
00:44:01 --> 00:44:07 Now, she's not as dark-skinned as those two are, but we know that Hollywood
00:44:07 --> 00:44:13 has always been an issue. there's always been an issue with colorizing in Hollywood.
00:44:13 --> 00:44:17 We've known that already, you know, so, you know, you're not,
00:44:17 --> 00:44:23 you know, and even so, when we see some of our actresses that we know started
00:44:23 --> 00:44:25 out darker skin, all of a sudden now.
00:44:26 --> 00:44:29 Lighter skinned people because they know that
00:44:29 --> 00:44:32 they had to change up to make sure that
00:44:32 --> 00:44:39 they fit the roles a little bit better you know but you know viola davis has
00:44:39 --> 00:44:43 made a lot of fuss about it even a person like taraji p henson has talked about
00:44:43 --> 00:44:48 this as well you know so but what's your thoughts on all of this what you thought
00:44:48 --> 00:44:50 what's your thoughts on what lapida was talking about,
00:44:51 --> 00:44:53 I can see it because, you know, I think there's a stereotype.
00:44:54 --> 00:44:58 So one, Lapita is dark skin, you know, of darker complexion.
00:44:59 --> 00:45:04 And she, you know, she's obviously has an accent, an African accent.
00:45:04 --> 00:45:09 And I think that causes people just to not see her in some of these traditional
00:45:09 --> 00:45:16 American roles unless she's like playing somebody of African descent. You know what I mean?
00:45:17 --> 00:45:22 Like, you know, I just feel like that's just white culture, you know,
00:45:22 --> 00:45:24 that like that that's white Hollywood.
00:45:24 --> 00:45:28 And that's how they see if you have an accent, you look a certain way,
00:45:28 --> 00:45:31 you're typecast, you know, into the rules.
00:45:32 --> 00:45:37 Right. I get it. Yeah. And, you know, it kind of makes me think I had gone somewhere.
00:45:37 --> 00:45:41 You know, sometimes you go to like you go to like a hotel and you'll turn on
00:45:41 --> 00:45:45 the TV and sometimes the TV will start with Channel 2.
00:45:46 --> 00:45:50 And channel two would be like some old Western type movies or,
00:45:50 --> 00:45:54 you know, like Bonanza, you know, Cowboy Indians.
00:45:55 --> 00:46:00 And I forget where I was. I turn on the TV and I'm watching and I'm laughing
00:46:00 --> 00:46:05 at myself because it was a movie that had like Cowboys and Indians and all that.
00:46:05 --> 00:46:08 Dave, would you believe all the Indians were white people?
00:46:09 --> 00:46:13 Yeah, I believe it. Like white people playing the Indians.
00:46:14 --> 00:46:18 Yeah. I mean, it's just crazy, you know, so it's like, you know,
00:46:18 --> 00:46:23 I think they just like to stereotype, you know, how they like to stereotype.
00:46:23 --> 00:46:29 I mean, it doesn't make any sense, but, you know, I think if it were almost...
00:46:31 --> 00:46:39 I think it's more acceptable to white America to see like a foreign white female,
00:46:39 --> 00:46:45 like let's say somebody from Ukraine, Germany, Russia, to have an accent.
00:46:46 --> 00:46:50 And it, you know, it gives a certain appeal, but I feel like,
00:46:51 --> 00:46:55 you know, for white America, you know, someone has that African accent and they
00:46:55 --> 00:46:58 immediately start thinking of, you know,
00:46:59 --> 00:47:04 like, you know, they can only play someone from Africa and I don't know.
00:47:05 --> 00:47:09 Yeah, it's a shame that people get stereotyped the way that they do.
00:47:09 --> 00:47:15 And, you know, when you look at now, because on the men's side, the men,
00:47:15 --> 00:47:18 don't get stereotyped that way you know
00:47:18 --> 00:47:22 i mean some of the top actors on the
00:47:22 --> 00:47:25 men's side are dark-skinned guys you know so are
00:47:25 --> 00:47:28 they african though well you
00:47:28 --> 00:47:32 know you got a guy like edrid elba who's from you
00:47:32 --> 00:47:34 know but he had he had more of
00:47:34 --> 00:47:37 an english well yeah and that's why i'm trying to differentiate
00:47:37 --> 00:47:41 between this the english accent and the
00:47:41 --> 00:47:44 african accent i i i
00:47:44 --> 00:47:47 feel like a black person with a black with
00:47:47 --> 00:47:50 an african accent gets criticism is
00:47:50 --> 00:47:54 more get their treatment is more critical than
00:47:54 --> 00:47:58 a black actor with the english accent well
00:47:58 --> 00:48:02 what about uh what's his name what am i thinking about uh don't even mention
00:48:02 --> 00:48:07 the guy from amistad because he was on some show a couple months ago talking
00:48:07 --> 00:48:13 about he could not get any roles oh really yeah he was like no and And I think
00:48:13 --> 00:48:15 he won something for Amistad, too.
00:48:15 --> 00:48:20 Right. He did. He did. Yeah. But he was saying that he cannot get any roles, people.
00:48:20 --> 00:48:22 In fact, why are you talking? I'm going to try to find that article because
00:48:22 --> 00:48:27 I wonder if it's the same exact thing she's saying because of his if he's getting great jazz.
00:48:29 --> 00:48:33 Isn't Mahershal Ali from Africa? Is he part African?
00:48:34 --> 00:48:37 Yeah, but I don't think he has an accent. Okay.
00:48:39 --> 00:48:44 Well, I guess you're right. I can't think of other than, well,
00:48:44 --> 00:48:48 the guy that was in 12 Years a Slave with Lapita.
00:48:49 --> 00:48:54 I can't remember how you pronounce his name. He was also, right, Ketilfor?
00:48:55 --> 00:48:57 Is that his name? I don't know.
00:48:58 --> 00:49:01 Yeah he he's also
00:49:01 --> 00:49:04 i think he's part african today i'm
00:49:04 --> 00:49:09 sorry not to cut y'all so i'm looking right here and i forget how to pronounce
00:49:09 --> 00:49:18 his name but it looks like jimmon yeah yeah who's my hansu so he says that even
00:49:18 --> 00:49:22 though he starred in critically acclaimed films such as amstad and Blood Diamond,
00:49:22 --> 00:49:26 that he is struggling to make a living.
00:49:27 --> 00:49:31 He's been in the filmmaking business for over two decades with two Oscar nominations
00:49:31 --> 00:49:36 in many blockbuster films, but he's still struggling financially.
00:49:36 --> 00:49:41 I'm just trying to see if he kind of says why he... Well, remember,
00:49:41 --> 00:49:44 we talked about this. Yeah. We talked about him. Yeah.
00:49:45 --> 00:49:48 And, oh, Dave, that's what he says. And this is probably the same thing with Lapita.
00:49:48 --> 00:49:54 He said the conceptual idea of diversity still has a long way to go.
00:49:55 --> 00:49:59 Systemic racism won't change anytime soon.
00:50:01 --> 00:50:09 And he feels, he said he has yet to meet a film that has paid him fairly.
00:50:09 --> 00:50:12 He needs to go on Tyler Perry.
00:50:13 --> 00:50:19 I'm sure Tyler will take care of him. Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense.
00:50:19 --> 00:50:29 I'm trying to think, would he be considered the top black African actor? I don't know.
00:50:30 --> 00:50:33 I'm actually doing a search right now.
00:50:34 --> 00:50:41 Let's see. Oh, well, what you call him? Oh, I said Egypt's popular.
00:50:41 --> 00:50:43 Boris Kojo has African descent.
00:50:44 --> 00:50:48 Yeah, but he also grew up in Europe. Yeah, yeah. Germany.
00:50:49 --> 00:50:54 They have Egypt on this list. Yeah, and I'm not knocking being African,
00:50:54 --> 00:51:00 but having the accent like Lapita and Hansel.
00:51:01 --> 00:51:06 I know there was one movie that he just did. He had an African accent. Oh.
00:51:07 --> 00:51:15 But, yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, but I guess Dejaman Hounsou is probably the most
00:51:15 --> 00:51:18 popular one. Wow. Interesting.
00:51:19 --> 00:51:28 Well, I mean, you know, we can't say the colorism has gone away because clearly it's still here.
00:51:29 --> 00:51:33 So, you know, and it looks like it's on both men and the women's side when it
00:51:33 --> 00:51:35 comes to African actors.
00:51:35 --> 00:51:38 But one thing I will say about
00:51:38 --> 00:51:42 Africans they will do their own movies though they have plenty they got plenty
00:51:42 --> 00:51:48 of movies out there and they got plenty of TV series and so and when you go
00:51:48 --> 00:51:54 on Instagram and TikTok they're all over the you know with their little skits
00:51:54 --> 00:51:55 and everything they're all over those,
00:51:56 --> 00:52:00 social media outlets so so,
00:52:02 --> 00:52:07 I'm sure they'll figure it out they'll make their way But it's really a shame
00:52:07 --> 00:52:12 because we know there's a lot of people with a lot less talent than the people
00:52:12 --> 00:52:16 we've talked about that get a lot more credit than they deserve.
00:52:17 --> 00:52:20 We'll put it that way. And they're not black.
00:52:21 --> 00:52:26 All right. That brings us to Leonard's favorite part of the show.
00:52:26 --> 00:52:30 You can't wait for this part every week. so just
00:52:30 --> 00:52:33 want to make sure that we honor him
00:52:33 --> 00:52:38 with his request to have this part of the show done every week he said this
00:52:38 --> 00:52:42 part of the show done or this part deleted you mean this part deleted and then
00:52:42 --> 00:52:50 no yeah i thought you'd say that but anyway this is dave's corner everybody
00:52:50 --> 00:52:53 you know I hear the cheering in the background. Yay!
00:52:55 --> 00:53:01 So, I got a question for you, sir. And this is my question for today's Day's Corner question.
00:53:03 --> 00:53:09 Which famous man and woman body would you take over if you had the chance for
00:53:09 --> 00:53:12 a month so you could see how they live?
00:53:15 --> 00:53:19 Maybe for a man, Jeff Bezos.
00:53:20 --> 00:53:25 Okay. You know, believe it or not, that was my pick. I know,
00:53:25 --> 00:53:27 Deca, you want to be like me.
00:53:28 --> 00:53:33 You know, see what that billionaire life is like, just in case I wouldn't like it.
00:53:33 --> 00:53:37 I don't know. You know, got to experience to know whether I'd like it or not.
00:53:38 --> 00:53:43 If it's a woman, of course, you'd have to be a single celibate woman.
00:53:43 --> 00:53:45 But let me see what this would be.
00:53:49 --> 00:53:55 Well, how would you know whether she's Sullivan or not? I know. Yeah. I know.
00:53:56 --> 00:53:59 I know. But you can have that. Dreams to nightmares.
00:54:00 --> 00:54:05 Dreams to nightmares. But you can have that control. You can have that control. All right.
00:54:06 --> 00:54:11 We know what you're making a reference to. So I get it. Yeah. Oh.
00:54:15 --> 00:54:23 I mean i don't know woman that's a stumper right there dave you think of a woman
00:54:23 --> 00:54:29 i mean i can think of a woman the first thing i'll tell them i'm not gonna say
00:54:29 --> 00:54:34 beyonce you're trying not okay i thought you're gonna say beyonce all right no uh-huh.
00:54:35 --> 00:54:38 To oprah yeah be beyonce life i'm sure
00:54:38 --> 00:54:43 it's too busy you probably stress me out you don't think oprah's busy not like
00:54:43 --> 00:54:48 beyonce you know oh you know oprah's probably you know she's she's spending
00:54:48 --> 00:54:55 time in her garden her book club yeah you know probably nah yeah oprah it is
00:54:55 --> 00:54:57 you know ironically David,
00:54:57 --> 00:55:06 if you had, if, if which famous man and woman's body,
00:55:06 --> 00:55:12 would you take over if you had a chance to live in that body for a month so
00:55:12 --> 00:55:13 you can see how they live?
00:55:15 --> 00:55:20 Well, my actual answers was Jeff Bezos and Oprah Winfrey.
00:55:20 --> 00:55:25 Oh my goodness. But I'm going to go with, since you named him,
00:55:25 --> 00:55:27 I'm going to go to two other people.
00:55:27 --> 00:55:30 I'm going to say Michael Jordan. Okay.
00:55:31 --> 00:55:36 For the obvious. I mean, you know, he's doing all right.
00:55:37 --> 00:55:43 You know what I mean? And I'd just like to see just his mentality as far as,
00:55:43 --> 00:55:50 you know, being who he is, you know, and being such a larger than life figure.
00:55:50 --> 00:55:58 So he would be one as far as the man as far as the woman other than Oprah I.
00:55:59 --> 00:56:04 I guess I would say, it sounds like you're about to say Gail King. I get it.
00:56:05 --> 00:56:10 I ain't going to say Gail. I wouldn't, no, Gail, no, not Gail.
00:56:11 --> 00:56:18 I would probably say the person that Jeff Bezos is about to marry. Oh, okay.
00:56:19 --> 00:56:26 Yeah. Is it Laura or something? Yeah, yeah. Because think about the spot that he's in, you know.
00:56:27 --> 00:56:32 And, you know, just like Bezos' former wife, you know, who walked away with
00:56:32 --> 00:56:36 all that money, you know, they get married, she's going to walk away with something
00:56:36 --> 00:56:38 too, you know, if something happens.
00:56:38 --> 00:56:41 Oh, are you talking about his former wife or the one he's about to marry?
00:56:41 --> 00:56:42 I'm talking about the one that he's about to marry.
00:56:43 --> 00:56:46 Oh, okay. Laura Sanchez or something? Yeah, Laura Sanchez. Because,
00:56:46 --> 00:56:49 of course, you know, people love to follow her.
00:56:49 --> 00:56:52 And, of course, you know, she's a character.
00:56:53 --> 00:56:58 And she looks like she's living it up right now. You know, I wouldn't mind just
00:56:58 --> 00:57:06 to see, you know, having all that, you know, so being with, you know,
00:57:07 --> 00:57:09 I mean, you know, between him and Bill Gates,
00:57:10 --> 00:57:12 you imagine sitting down playing
00:57:12 --> 00:57:17 a card game with them and they betting a million apiece. on a hand.
00:57:17 --> 00:57:22 So, I mean, that's crazy. That's crazy to me.
00:57:22 --> 00:57:28 But, you know, I just wanted to see just how they live.
00:57:28 --> 00:57:32 And, you know, if everything is really as.
00:57:33 --> 00:57:36 You know, what, what is all, what you think it's all out to be when you got
00:57:36 --> 00:57:39 all that kind of money, you know?
00:57:39 --> 00:57:45 So, so I guess that would be my, my, my, my other two choices.
00:57:45 --> 00:57:49 I mean, but my first choices would be the same choices that you have.
00:57:49 --> 00:57:55 Gotcha. Okay. All right, folks, you guys can give us your choices if you'd like,
00:57:55 --> 00:58:00 and let us know what you guys would think, but definitely, you know,
00:58:00 --> 00:58:01 that's a question to think about.
00:58:01 --> 00:58:10 So, well, it's Thanksgiving week, and we hope that you guys have a great holiday
00:58:10 --> 00:58:16 and enjoy whatever you're going to do, family, friends,
00:58:16 --> 00:58:19 whatever you're going to be doing that day. We want you to be safe.
00:58:19 --> 00:58:22 Come back and check us out next week.
00:58:22 --> 00:58:27 We're thankful for you guys that tune in every week or even if you don't tune
00:58:27 --> 00:58:32 in every week whenever you tune in we're thankful for all that you guys do to
00:58:32 --> 00:58:36 keep us supported and you know listen to,
00:58:37 --> 00:58:39 anything you want to add Leonard?
00:58:40 --> 00:58:45 Other than that I just want to wish everybody a happy Thanksgiving please take
00:58:45 --> 00:58:49 advantage of your loved ones tell them you love them because you know a lot
00:58:49 --> 00:58:52 of people have passed this year Dave and And, you know,
00:58:53 --> 00:58:56 sometimes the second opportunities don't come around.
00:58:57 --> 00:59:01 And, yeah, that's true. I mean, you know, we had the 22-year-old football player
00:59:01 --> 00:59:06 that, you know, were Dallas Cowboys, and, you know, and that was,
00:59:07 --> 00:59:11 you know, there was a call for help there, and nobody heard him, you know?
00:59:12 --> 00:59:20 So we have to, we definitely have to listen, pay attention, and try to understand
00:59:20 --> 00:59:25 the things that are going on in this world today because there's a lot. It really is.
00:59:26 --> 00:59:31 So, but like I said, we're thankful for you guys. Thank you for taking the time to listen to us.
00:59:32 --> 00:59:34 Happy Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving.
00:59:44 --> 00:59:48 Tune in next week, ladies and gentlemen, for another edition of News and Trends
00:59:48 --> 00:59:51 with your hosts, Dave and Lynn.
00:59:57 --> 00:59:58 We'll be right back.