🎙Newz and Trendz with Dave and Len: Black News Episode100

[00:00:00] All right, so get ready for another edition of Newz and Trendz with your host Dave and Len.

[00:00:30] Welcome, welcome, welcome to Newz and Trendz with Dave and Len. This is one of your host Mr. David

[00:00:36] Cloaker, proprietor of Dave Markingh, promoter, event planner, marketing specialist, all around

[00:00:46] good guy. What can I say? It's me. You know, and I'm hanging out with my partner Mr. Leonard

[00:00:53] Young, what's going on? Hey Dave, everything's good. This is Leonard Young, CEO of National Black

[00:01:00] God Delaware Black dot com black media specialist. The number one all around good guy. How's it going

[00:01:06] Dave? How are you recovering? Recovery from what? I mean, you ain't watch TV last night?

[00:01:17] Oh, you talking about that. Okay. You determined to talk about it aren't you?

[00:01:23] About what?

[00:01:36] So looks like Dave may have clicked off on us real quick. So we'll probably wait for him to get back

[00:01:41] but of course, if everyone who listens to the show knows that Dave is a huge, huge Eagles fan

[00:01:52] and unfortunately yesterday, the Eagles didn't show them prove as you know, a lot of us hope

[00:01:59] they would against the team that they wish they would have the most which is the Dallas Cowboys Dave.

[00:02:07] Are you back? Oh, you had to put out there, don't wasn't you? Well, I mean, you know,

[00:02:16] you you you you adept on us but I knew you. Yeah, well that's because I told you see what you

[00:02:22] made me do when you brought up that whole thing. Yeah, I know what can I say it was it was a

[00:02:29] mess man. Um, last couple of weeks have been a mess but you know, even with as bad as they played,

[00:02:35] you know, they still got the best time with the best record in the league and still the number

[00:02:43] you know, still the number one. Still have a chance at the number one C for the playoffs. So

[00:02:50] Oh wow. Okay. And now who's there? Who's our next game against Seattle? The Seattle C Hawks

[00:02:58] okay next Monday. It should be a win but nothing's been that way. Nothing's been easy for

[00:03:05] them lately. So right, but we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. So you say no,

[00:03:11] no guarantees. No, right now nothing seems to be guaranteed. But this is what happens at the end

[00:03:17] of the season because people, you know, it's viable as a fitness right now, Dallas and San

[00:03:26] Fran are playing the best ball, but I hate to say that but they are. But then you know, it's only

[00:03:36] going to be one winner at the end of the season. So we don't know who that is yet. So right. Okay,

[00:03:41] I just see what happens. Yeah, we'll see what happens. But other than that man, other than having

[00:03:50] having that game, spoil the weekend. Even though it was a wet rainy weekend, did the rain work?

[00:03:57] So not too much, but I mean we got back Sunday. So I mean Sunday was just, I mean, they like

[00:04:04] we said before, you know, get the arc and two of each animal load them up. Yeah,

[00:04:12] um, uh, was it warmed down? Where you were, you weren't Charlotte, right? Yeah. Um, so it was

[00:04:18] definitely warm. I think the high, we might have some highs of 60s. So I mean, you know, of course,

[00:04:24] nighttime got cold, whatever that cold was. But yeah, so definitely in the 60s.

[00:04:31] Okay. Well, the weather's been warm because I know, I mean, we're because I know yesterday

[00:04:37] when the football games were being played, they would, uh, this was before the games even started.

[00:04:42] There was one of the guys was on one of the football shows was doing a weather,

[00:04:46] bright, uh, weather thing and he was talking about it. The weather for all the games where all

[00:04:53] the games were being played. And the warmest spot. What was that? The warmest spot was 60 degrees.

[00:05:02] And I want to say that was Arizona. No, that wasn't Arizona. I forget where they said that

[00:05:10] what that game was. But 60 degrees was the warmest spot in the country yesterday.

[00:05:16] Wow. Well, for all the games. Yeah. All the games were all the games were being played.

[00:05:24] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was 60 something degrees here. So I don't know. At this start,

[00:05:29] that was weird. That this tells you because, you know, you guys weren't here Friday, right?

[00:05:35] No, we were not. So you know, it snowed up until 12 o'clock on Friday, right?

[00:05:42] Did it really? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it came down pretty good too. I mean, it was

[00:05:49] it started in the morning like around 738 o'clock somewhere around there and it just went and

[00:05:56] it stopped around 12. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. We definitely weren't here for that. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:06:03] It was interesting. I was like, okay, are they trying to tell us something? Is this going to be a snow

[00:06:10] year or what? You know, so and then the weekend was warm. I mean, what a saddy was warm, you know?

[00:06:17] So, but we'll see what happens. So, uh, well, we got what we got going on otherwise you good?

[00:06:27] Yeah. Everything else is good to go. You know, another week, you know, can't land down these

[00:06:33] weeks to the end of the year. You know, of course, um, my class that's that I've been working diligently on.

[00:06:41] This week is the last week of my class. I'm excited. Oh, okay. So are you going to pass?

[00:06:47] Um, so well, you know, I'm the class definitely. The test is in January. So, you know,

[00:06:54] I have a little bit of time. Oh, you got to pass the test. Okay. Yeah.

[00:07:00] Okay. All right. Uh, I meant to tell you one of my co-workers,

[00:07:06] just happy to mention that there's supposed to be going camping down at the GNR campground.

[00:07:12] Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. When is that?

[00:07:16] Must be sometimes soon because she said that there's supposed to be going down there. I had to find out

[00:07:23] from her, um, but her and her family are going, are going down. She says he's been down there before.

[00:07:31] Wow. Okay. This before you, you know, you took a little bit down. Yeah. Yeah. So, um,

[00:07:38] but they apparently do some, they do apparently like to camp as a family. So

[00:07:44] okay. Well, what they um, let them know or ask them to let you know before they come down just

[00:07:52] you know, just so we can make sure we get them the best impression. Okay. All right. I will,

[00:07:57] I'll say something through it tomorrow. Okay. Okay. Yeah. But um, I said, okay. All right. I said that.

[00:08:06] They got to know the guy that owns that place. That's why I said to her. So,

[00:08:11] she said they're going to help me out there. And he just kind of said, uh, no one else. I said,

[00:08:16] I wouldn't even know. Oh,

[00:08:19] if I can. Yeah. What would be it? What Dave, you know, we want to hook them up if you had told us,

[00:08:23] but now he says he didn't like it. So I gotta, well, what was he just told me? I mean, I didn't know.

[00:08:27] She just happy to mention it. Mad fact, he wasn't telling me. She just happy to mention it.

[00:08:31] And I said, Jen, or did you say Jen or she said, yeah, whisper the go down to Jen or for camping.

[00:08:38] So okay. So see what happens. Okay. So I will find out now. Let's you know when she's

[00:08:49] will come down there. And I'll give you a day. Did you ever hear back from, um,

[00:08:55] from the lady crystal who about the, um,

[00:09:03] and then lost my training thought now, um,

[00:09:07] about the registry as far as getting in on the registry. No, I did not. I need to follow up.

[00:09:13] Okay. Yeah. Definitely tech back with her and find out about that.

[00:09:17] But, um, so because I think that's something that you guys need to do.

[00:09:23] Um, and that will be something that, uh,

[00:09:28] we'll make you guys stand out even more. Okay. All right.

[00:09:34] Yeah.

[00:09:35] Natalie. All right. So let's get, let's get to our stories.

[00:09:41] Um, we got a few stories for you today. And I'd take a,

[00:09:46] uh, I have to laugh because I think people are going to think we have a little pattern today.

[00:09:52] Yeah. Of stories. But, um, you know, it is what it is for ourselves. We're,

[00:09:58] we're gonna, we're gonna go with these stories that we have. Um,

[00:10:03] I don't know. Did you happen to hear about this first story that we're going to talk about?

[00:10:10] The woman who tried to burn down Martin Luther King's house. Did you hear about that? No,

[00:10:15] um, when you, when you sent me the video just now that was my first time seeing it. I,

[00:10:19] I didn't know about it. Well, I heard about it on, um, what's that? Um,

[00:10:25] um, one of the radio programs I was listening to this morning and they happened to mention it.

[00:10:31] And I heard it over the weekend but I was like, well, that's interesting. And of course,

[00:10:37] automatically, as soon as you hear somebody tried to burn down Martin Luther King's house,

[00:10:43] what do you think it right away? A white person. A white male. A white male. There you go. Okay.

[00:10:52] All right, well listen to this. Your native Linisha, John Trees Henderson.

[00:11:02] Don't sound like white male to me. No, he doesn't. Okay. What's Charles with second degree

[00:11:09] arts and after attempting to burn down the childhood, um, Martin Luther King last week.

[00:11:16] According to sports, uh, to sports Keta, the 26 year old lived in Tallahassee, Florida

[00:11:24] and enlisted in the Navy after graduating from Ufala High School.

[00:11:31] Henderson served four years in US Navy and reportedly earned medals for good conduct.

[00:11:39] How's that? Okay. When she tried to burn down this short MLK structure, her father says he was experiencing

[00:11:47] mental health issues. Unfortunately, Henderson was stopped by two off duty New York police officers

[00:11:55] who had been visiting the center and they detained her until Atlanta police arrived.

[00:12:01] Henderson was arrested and charged with criminal attempt, attempted arson and criminal attempted

[00:12:08] interference with the government property. The, um, it says tonight an unfortunate incident occurred

[00:12:18] at the birth home of 1000 Martin Luther King Jr. As individual attempted to set fire to the historic

[00:12:24] property, the Martin Luther King Jr. Center in a statement. Fortunately, the attempt, the attempt was

[00:12:32] unsuccessful thanks to the brave good Samaritans and the quick response of law enforcement.

[00:12:40] So here we are, we have a story here about, um, someone trying to burn down the Martin Luther King

[00:12:51] um, birth home and it's a center that, um, the historic center there now. And actually there was

[00:13:00] there's a video you and I took a brief look at the video where you actually can see the young lady

[00:13:08] with a gas can spreading gasoline all over the porch and around the windows of the house. He was

[00:13:18] ready to torch the place. He was not playing and it just so happened that, um, two off duty police

[00:13:27] officers happened to see her and they actually wrestled her down to the ground. Excuse me

[00:13:33] and and held her there until police um, the Atlanta police got there.

[00:13:40] And now they said she had some mental illness and I'm and we're not sure what the her motivation

[00:13:47] was as far as trying to burn down this historic building. Um, what's your thoughts on this?

[00:13:57] What do you think? What do you think about this? I mean, you know, I definitely think it's crazy so

[00:14:03] um, to be honest, the first thing I thought when I saw her pouring the gas on and somebody

[00:14:10] questioned her and she tried to turn away was mental illness. Like, you know, mental illness

[00:14:16] was the first thing that kind of came to my mind. And you know, David, you know, you and I kind of

[00:14:21] joked about it a little bit but when she so she was so she had, that wasn't even a five gallon

[00:14:30] thing of a gas. That was a 10 gallon, you know, right? She was not playing. That was a big can. Yeah.

[00:14:37] You know, that's that was a big cancer of gasoline she was trying to put and um, you know, so she was

[00:14:43] trying to douse it on the windows. And as soon as somebody questioned her, she turned around and

[00:14:48] tried to act like she was watering the bushes which I mean, you know, I thought was kind of funny

[00:14:53] but, you know, thinking back, you know, it just kind of makes me think mental illness.

[00:14:58] And um, I'm not sure if you mentioned it, but this was doing broad daylight. Like, yeah, yeah.

[00:15:05] It wasn't that night. It was almost like a call for help. Hey, you know, it wasn't early

[00:15:11] morning. It wasn't late at night. This, I mean, it looked like you're like two o'clock in the afternoon

[00:15:16] and keep in mind in the story. I said that these two people that stopped her were visiting the center

[00:15:24] so you know that she was not trying to hide what she was trying to do but when you hear her talk,

[00:15:30] she sounds like, I don't know if she sounds it liberated or um, or maybe that's just her psyche

[00:15:39] these days. She was in the service. I don't know if she has some PTSD. I don't, you know,

[00:15:46] there could be a lot going on. She's only 26 years old. She did four years of the service.

[00:15:52] Um, you know, it's really a shame we've done so many stories about young people

[00:15:59] and the mental health. I mean, you know, guys, we're in our third year doing this podcast now.

[00:16:06] And how many stories have we done about people, young people and what's going on with them?

[00:16:15] You know, mentally. I mean, yeah, as much as we know, maybe 50%.

[00:16:25] Yeah, it's crazy. I think there's a big crisis out here

[00:16:35] when it comes to the mental health and in young folks especially, they're in a lot of trouble.

[00:16:45] There's in really, really, it's I think I saw something the other day that right now there's

[00:16:56] a shortage of their therapists out there who as far as counseling is concerned for

[00:17:07] for people who are under the age. I think they said something, they did it age-wise. They said

[00:17:15] if you're at, if you're a teenager to 30 years old, I think I saw maybe 25 years old,

[00:17:22] I figured what it was that there's a shortage of qualified therapists or psychiatrists or

[00:17:32] psych psychologists to be able to counsel these people because there's so many of them looking

[00:17:40] for help right now. That's what that's what that's all. And it's really the same and when you got

[00:17:47] somebody like this who spent this time in the service now, we don't know what might have happened

[00:17:52] in the service to it because you know when you go on the service, the very first thing that

[00:18:01] is going to happen to you is that you're going to get on the regimen that puts you in a certain type

[00:18:05] of discipline. And I don't care what brain to the services. It is. You're going to be,

[00:18:15] you ever meet somebody that went into you ever those somebody closing that before you knew

[00:18:21] them when you first met them or when you knew them before they went into service, they might have

[00:18:28] been one particular way but soon they can't, soon they went through basic training and everything

[00:18:32] and you saw them again say they were on furlough or something like that. And then you say them again

[00:18:38] you say wow they're different. You ever know the set? I have not had any of those experiences

[00:18:46] I have. I have and especially, and I tell you the ones that really, really definitely are different

[00:18:54] when they come back like after the basic service, I mean basic training and everything is people

[00:19:00] that go into Marines. Marines, that's hardcore man. They just feel so they just come back so different

[00:19:10] but the discipline you can see the discipline is there. So hopefully this young lady gets to

[00:19:16] help that she needs thank God those guys having to be passing by because just imagine if she got a

[00:19:23] chance to lay the match or strike a match, yeah that place will have went up because he definitely

[00:19:29] spreader than enough gasoline according to the video you can see it. Oh no was that a he or

[00:19:35] a she. I thought that was a she. That was a she did it. No you say hey okay all right okay yeah we

[00:19:44] had to be correct with these you know pronouns and so forth down days yeah okay but that's the story

[00:19:54] that but I think we should definitely want to keep an eye on to see what happens to her hopefully

[00:20:00] was she down there in the south you know so you never know what may happen to her may never hear

[00:20:06] from her again you know so but hopefully they're able to get her to help that she needs and you know

[00:20:16] maybe and hopefully they don't try to put her away for like 10 years or for something that she

[00:20:22] didn't do you know what I mean she never got you know so yeah all right moving on to our next story

[00:20:32] yep so Dave the next story is and I'm just going to follow in your theme of

[00:20:42] you know telling the truth about what's going on in the world so you know this story is something that

[00:20:50] just happened recently this is at Ohio University not to be mistaken with the Ohio State University

[00:20:58] there you go yeah yep but um so there were a quote unquote racist white men who threatened the lives

[00:21:07] of black women at Ohio University so basically what happens is there were three black women

[00:21:16] who were walking through the campus students at Ohio University, mining their business you know

[00:21:24] not not bothering anybody and they walked past two groups of white men who were arguing with each other

[00:21:33] and of course you know the article states from the writer the author of the article who says he also

[00:21:41] went to a PWI like Ohio University being on campus and seeing people you know white white men

[00:21:48] each other with nothing new especially considering how much you know parting and drinking and all

[00:21:54] that stuff goes on right so as the women are walking by the groups are you and just mining their

[00:22:02] business avoiding any trouble they hear one of the men say the in-war and the article doesn't specify

[00:22:10] whether they were talking to the women or they were just somebody in that group was talking to

[00:22:15] the other group so when they heard the in-word they confronted the group verbally you know just

[00:22:24] challenging the use of the in-word once they confronted the group one of the groups of I guess white

[00:22:33] men are people left the other group comprised of three white men and one by racial black men

[00:22:43] started to follow the black women while yelling in a ray of racial slurs at them including the in-word

[00:22:53] and if that wasn't bad enough the group took things so a whole nother level when they brandish

[00:23:02] firearms with laser attachments and they pointed them at the group shortly after of course the

[00:23:11] the group of men left the area the incident was recorded on campus security local authorities

[00:23:19] campus police search for the subject for the subject but have been unable to find them all four

[00:23:25] men in the group are wanted for aggravated menacing and possibly you know a crime labeled as a hate

[00:23:35] crime so you know just interesting that all this happened on campus and you know Dave and you

[00:23:41] can tell me your thoughts the first thing that came to my mind when they said the two groups were

[00:23:44] arguing each other and the in-word was used it made me think about how freely some

[00:23:52] non-black people used the in-word and you know conversation and arguments so you know I'm curious

[00:24:01] whether they were using the in-word to the black women or they were just using the in-word to the

[00:24:06] other group of you know men on that campus so but you know it was just interesting what are your thoughts

[00:24:13] well I mean this type of stuff has been going on for years I mean to it made me automatically

[00:24:24] why you were talking and maybe think about school you know in some of the issues that we had on campus

[00:24:31] there this is just something that's gonna seem like it's always gonna be around forever

[00:24:43] depending on where you are and if there's a group of people who

[00:24:54] feel that there's more superior than you are they're gonna make it no

[00:25:00] they're gonna try to intimidate you or whatever the case may be I just feel that we have to be

[00:25:07] more cognizant of our surroundings because you know we've talked about in the past people who are

[00:25:20] you know has a right to carry guns and and so forth and I told you if I see somebody with a gun on

[00:25:29] their hip I don't go where they go I don't care if they're law enforcement or not because now that

[00:25:35] you have you know open carry open concealed you know concealed and open carry that you don't know

[00:25:43] what the person mental capacity may be yeah exactly you know so and the same thing with

[00:25:51] with groups of people like this you know you just never know what they're gonna be capable of

[00:25:56] just think you just said that they haven't been able to find these people right nope they have not

[00:26:01] found them what they vanish in there in there I don't know I mean even though they were recorded on

[00:26:08] campus security cameras they have not been able to have not been able to find them excuse me so was

[00:26:16] it was it are they they don't know if they're students

[00:26:23] so I mean as of right now they they look like they don't know anything

[00:26:27] so they haven't been able to find them so they'll say they have not been able to confirm now we know

[00:26:34] if if it was all blacks creating this disturbance and doing this and doing that you know or you

[00:26:45] know they would have been found right away right right right okay sorry I just found it amazing

[00:26:53] um how you can have videos and all of that kind of stuff with technology and everything

[00:27:00] and you can't find these people to find out what they were thinking about first of all nobody

[00:27:07] should feel that they can't be with their friends and be talked about you know what I mean it should

[00:27:15] be no way that that should happen um now wonder that people are the way that they are everybody is just so

[00:27:29] I don't know everybody just seems to be so ready to fight because you feel that you have to

[00:27:40] you have to to to always feel like you on the guard or you have to protect yourself because

[00:27:47] you just never know what people are going to do you don't know how people are going to react

[00:27:52] I had a guy yesterday I was on my way to church and um I'm going down the road on

[00:28:00] oh on our favorite road oh Baltimore Pike this guy pulls out in front of me coming from his

[00:28:09] development and he just and he pulls out in front of me I mean I had to put I had to hit the

[00:28:14] brakes to keep from running into him right so I blow the horn you know like I don't think he ever

[00:28:24] looked to see if I was coming first of all I blow the horn you know he didn't react or anything

[00:28:31] but you know what he did he purposely slowed down so I couldn't pass him wow and he took his time

[00:28:41] about five ten miles an hour all the way up to two seventy three and how how mad were you

[00:28:48] I was I was meant but I say why people because people be gone I don't know if you ever I don't

[00:28:53] know if you ever know people be riding around people on the shoulder the road and everything out

[00:28:58] there are all Baltimore Pike and I you know I wanted to do it that's it now I'm not going to do

[00:29:04] that that's it I'm not gonna give him that satisfaction but he just took his time and would not let

[00:29:09] you know automatic he slowed down now of course I could have been some high head and ran up on him

[00:29:16] and just bumped his car yeah but you know but now I see why people have the mentality that they do

[00:29:25] and so if that group that was being antagonized or whatever the case may be had turned around

[00:29:33] and blasted them or something like that who would have been in the wrong yeah I agree you know

[00:29:40] I think it's just one of those things where um so it kind of reminds me of the movie Unhinged

[00:29:46] I don't know if you ever saw that with your ride butler but you know just one of the things where

[00:29:50] everybody can have a bad day and if you're having a bad day and someone pulls out and trying to

[00:29:55] use stuff like that yeah you know my cousin that wrong day that could be it man yeah you know

[00:30:06] because that guy that guy when you slowed down man I said oh no he's not taking this car

[00:30:13] and making me slow down man there was a line of cards behind me your two cards behind me so

[00:30:19] you can hear the cards blowing the horn because they thought it was me but no it was this guy you know

[00:30:24] taking the start so um but we're in a we're in a different day and time you can't

[00:30:32] you have to gauge the situations you can't you can't fly off the handle anymore

[00:30:40] because you never know what people are going to do in this situation with this group of people

[00:30:46] that they can't seem to find that is just magically disappeared off the face of their bet you

[00:30:52] one of them was probably the Dean's son but that's a whole not a story you never know so that's

[00:30:57] probably why they can't find them but what if what if something that happened to those two

[00:31:03] two uh the young ladies or whatever who wouldn't so happen to them now would that make them

[00:31:11] find them any quicker of course yeah you know and that's why when you hear stories about

[00:31:19] women being accosted or you know um um being you know being abducted and being raped and stuff

[00:31:29] like this you know um a lot of times it's because they don't always listen to the first story that's

[00:31:38] full when they said that this person or they felt threatened in some kind of way and we have to

[00:31:44] we have to do better we have to we have to be able to protect the people that need to be protected

[00:31:51] because sometimes that could have went terribly wrong that particular day whenever that happened

[00:31:58] so that's why thoughts on it um you know uh uh uh you know hopefully they find those guys but

[00:32:06] what are they gonna do to them really what are they gonna do yeah I mean if they bring in just a

[00:32:12] gun on campus I could see them uh doing a lot but they have to prove that they can't find them

[00:32:21] let it how they go approved they had a gun well they said it recorded on uh campus security

[00:32:26] more they imported on campus security I mean that I'm Dave I'm just I'm I'm just a messenger I'm

[00:32:32] just a messenger I'm reading the article oh no but I'm just saying that they got they got their

[00:32:37] pictures and everything on on security camera and they can't find them how they going fine to go

[00:32:44] well we'll see they'll find that gun let her go on think about it right now I get it yeah so

[00:32:54] we'll see we'll see what happens hope uh Leonard Leonard will be keeping a close eye on

[00:32:59] the story folks to see see what happens from this point on all right we'll go get it move on

[00:33:05] through our next story stand in line with today's topic you know uh we we're we're we're having

[00:33:14] we have to apologize for our stories a day but this is what well this was not too bad this one's

[00:33:19] a good one actually started out of this bad but then it becomes a good story so um let's see

[00:33:27] today the title of this one is man in prison as team for flower shop killing

[00:33:34] is released after just those out is conviction so this story is about a 35 year old man sent

[00:33:42] the prison for a 2004 killing of a man and a many many anapolis um flower shop was who was

[00:33:51] released Monday after the judge ruled their eyewitness evidence on which his conviction

[00:33:58] rested was unreliable Marvin Haynes who was 16 at the time of the killing was released from prison

[00:34:06] shortly after the the judge ruling um the hennapin county attorneys office said it

[00:34:14] agreed with defense attorneys that Haynes has had proven in court that admitting the the shaky

[00:34:23] evidence violated his constitution on rights during the 2005 trial for the killing of Randy Shire

[00:34:31] 55 who was shot during a robbery I just want to thank everybody that supported me through the whole

[00:34:38] journey changed whole reporters outside the prison and now y'all can recognize um actually innocent

[00:34:46] he said hennapin county attorney uh Mary Moriarty said in a statement that Haynes prosecution was

[00:34:54] terrible was a terrible injustice she said that the conviction depended almost entirely on an eyewitness

[00:35:03] identification and that there was no forensic evidence such as fingerprints or DNA nor video connecting

[00:35:13] him to the crime we inflicted Haynes um harm on mr. Haynes and his family and also on Harry's

[00:35:20] Sheerah the victim and his family and the community Moriarty said we cannot undo the trauma experience

[00:35:27] by those impacted by this prosecution but the day we have taken steps in writing this wrong

[00:35:37] which is all on that what do you think what do you think about that um whether they say uh

[00:35:43] complexion he has a complexion for protection yeah uh more than it did he

[00:35:50] not this guy

[00:36:06] what are you doing over there all right well the the opposite okay there you go there you go

[00:36:13] yeah no he had no protection not this dude this dude ended up he was the right complexion

[00:36:20] he just wasn't protected um right you know um apparently he must have been railroaded he was 16

[00:36:28] years old so what does that say to you hey look and you know we've heard these stories before

[00:36:36] to say this you'll get this amount of time you'll be out at this amount of time I'm sure that's

[00:36:42] the half you know or or a lot of times you know it'd be just enough evidence you know maybe he was

[00:36:51] in the area somebody said he looked like the guy bam yeah you know and they might have been

[00:36:59] easy as he was black well listen to this here we go just this is the this is proof of it it says uh

[00:37:11] there was a point there was a two-day evidentiary hearing on the case uh late last month

[00:37:19] it said in order that Hayes attorney in his order that Hayes attorneys from the innocent project

[00:37:27] showed he did not master physical description provided by the primary primary eye witness

[00:37:35] Hayes was significantly younger than the description of the killer about 50 pounds lighter

[00:37:46] and significantly shorter the Judd said Hayes also had much longer hair

[00:37:55] than how the witness described the attacker the attacker and his mannered speech was not similar

[00:38:04] but yet he was put in jail for the crime right okay tell like I mean I'm sure

[00:38:13] and then you know how many times have we heard these kind of stories before

[00:38:17] often two often yeah yeah so his his protection I mean his complexion

[00:38:26] was was definitely right for the moment you know what I mean so um

[00:38:37] the person who the person the witness initially identified said saying she was 75 to 80% sure

[00:38:47] was in another state at the time of the killer so this there was just all kinds of stuff that was

[00:38:55] going on at the time and yet yet the 16 year old kid that they figured they can go here in real

[00:39:04] room for this crime which they did now thank God that they you know they worked on I mean he wasn't

[00:39:12] jailed what nine years I wonder if there's going to be an compensation involved with this

[00:39:23] they hopefully because you know I mean 16 to plus nine years like those are very formative

[00:39:30] years and his life yeah yeah thank God he you know he's still young because he's only 35 now so thank

[00:39:37] God for that you know but you know we've seen we've seen a lot of stories where people go in young

[00:39:44] and they come out old you know because and what a situation um similar to this so but it's

[00:39:52] a good thing that they were able to see that see that there was definitely a misjustice done by

[00:39:59] putting this young man in jail and that they were able to overturn it um

[00:40:07] you know it says here at the end of the story it says during the right thing sometimes mean we must

[00:40:14] seek to undo the harms of the past and not defend them and that is what we have tried to do

[00:40:22] the day more he already said it is not easy to admit and correct or wrong but it's necessary

[00:40:31] that's deep and that's true because we definitely know that there was definitely a issue here

[00:40:39] um like I said these kind of stories you hear about all time uh you know all the time

[00:40:47] and you know he was one of the lucky ones that they had you know um you know he got the backing

[00:40:56] um uh that project to be able to help him out um but you know for those who have been their

[00:41:06] lifetimes in prison for stuff that they didn't do you know that's really a shame but I just wanted

[00:41:15] to bring you the attention to that story because that's having to be a story that worked out well for

[00:41:20] everyone so and these are you want to add before we move on no I mean I think you're up pretty much

[00:41:28] out with it okay all right you guys are listening to news and trends with Dave and Len your favorite

[00:41:36] podcast um thank you for taking the time to uh listen to us and and and follow us on our social media

[00:41:44] pages and everything we really appreciate your support um our next story is um are you a hoodie guy

[00:41:59] I am definitely a hoodie guy Dave don't buy me no crew next sweatshirts because I

[00:42:03] think they won't get worn okay so you're a hoodie guy do you wear a ski mask too

[00:42:10] no I'm not a robber or a killer well that's not the reason I was there but Dave are you a hoodie guy

[00:42:24] are you a hoodie guy no never had this never had I got I got a few but I mean I'm not I'm not

[00:42:31] a hoodie guy no okay uh and I'm not a ski mask person either I figure that okay why are we talking

[00:42:41] about this folks well uh this next story has to do with both of them down in Atlanta um it says

[00:42:50] Atlanta City uh councilman wants to ban hoodies and ski masks to reduce crime despite racial

[00:42:59] profiling fears now I mean I could read the story but we don't need to read it we kind of know what

[00:43:06] this is all about um a lot of it has to it goes back to the trade by Martin days because that's

[00:43:13] a lot of the hoodie things uh down in that area especially kind of came to pass

[00:43:22] matter of fact the story to very first paragraph they meant to trade by Martin

[00:43:28] with the killing of trade by Martin but it has been over the years has always been

[00:43:35] deemed that if you're a person there were hoodies all the time that you knew

[00:43:39] normally was somebody that wasn't up to any good you know because especially if you had to hood up

[00:43:45] all the time it actually became more of a fascist statement over the years the haphodies and especially

[00:43:57] certain color ones um there's a lot of hoodies that are very um you know um expressive with the

[00:44:08] things that they have on them you know people people you know put art and stuff and all that kind of

[00:44:14] stuff on it but the significance is funny the significance of the hoodie when it first came out was

[00:44:22] exactly was a pullover thing to keep you warm you know and to keep your head warm but it became

[00:44:29] as grew big um i want to say during the 90s i think it's when it really got started to get

[00:44:38] become a really popular thing and then it started to be a piece of a clothing accessory that

[00:44:48] a lot of young people started wearing on a regular basis um but it also became an item used in a lot

[00:44:57] of robberies and um killings and shootings and stuff like that because it helps to protect your

[00:45:06] face hide who you are at times depending on what else you might be wearing a k a um well also

[00:45:17] also i should say this key mask which is also something else that they want to uh band because

[00:45:24] it is also considered a piece of item that is used in a lot of robberies and um you know um

[00:45:35] burglary and stuff like that um so you got places you know down set especially in the land of where

[00:45:44] there's a lot of crime and so forth down in that area and they said that a lot of the

[00:45:50] crimes are committed with people with hoodies and ski masks

[00:45:56] what do you think about that is that racial profiling you think or is that

[00:46:02] um so i might have asked that yes and no so Dave the ski mask i mean i definitely understand

[00:46:09] that if you're living in the city of Atlanta and and you know um don't stop listening to news and

[00:46:16] trend with davin lent if you live in Atlanta you wear a ski mask but Dave to be to be honest i

[00:46:22] i don't see any reason why you need a ski mask living in Atlanta unless you know i mean you know i'm

[00:46:29] i'm gonna be living my parents and grandparents unless you up to no good you don't need no ski mask

[00:46:32] all that that is that is true why are you wearing the ski mask of the land that is really true yeah

[00:46:38] now the hoodie thing so i'm a little i'm a little torn on this one because i wear hoodies

[00:46:45] i love hoodies now i could see and i mean i think this is very hard to enforce

[00:46:54] i could see them saying anytime you go into a place of business you cannot have your hoodie

[00:47:01] but i could see something more like that but you know just no hoodies because you know Dave

[00:47:08] um black people aren't the only people who love hoodies white people love them Asians

[00:47:13] love them Mexicans love them oh most young people most young people i don't get what color you are most

[00:47:20] young people like these i just got the whole hoodie thing i just never got it uh i remember they

[00:47:28] look when i when when i was in school then they used to drive me crazy how you going live uh

[00:47:35] now i know i know they can be you know the ones that have the fleece lining and so forth they

[00:47:40] could be pretty warm but i guess i just never liked the hood part of it you know and that was my

[00:47:47] big thing you know uh but i know it is uh it's sort of uh uh rice the passage type thing when

[00:47:57] if you if you're a person that wears it was almost like when Timberlands everyone Timberlands

[00:48:02] became real popular um yeah did you wear it Tim's no you know i think because i always felt like my

[00:48:11] feet were big and then the Timberland boosts up made them look even bigger i skipped that trend

[00:48:18] well it was just like when those Timns came out you know now i remember Tim's they were always

[00:48:23] just working when i was coming up but then all of a sudden they became a fastened statement

[00:48:28] even till this day they're still fastened statement and most people wore Tim's with the hoodies

[00:48:35] you know yeah so um but they said there was a ratchet burglaries and stuff in Atlanta

[00:48:43] and people were using the hoodies and the ski masks to pull these burglaries and robberies all

[00:48:51] um which you know of course i can understand you know that would be something that would be

[00:48:58] a major problem but we know they just we know it's not just black people doing this you know

[00:49:06] or or people of color doing this so that's what the whole racial profiling part of it becomes

[00:49:15] you know because they want to ban they want to ban hoodies and they want to ban

[00:49:21] ski masks are you gonna be able to actually stop people from wearing a hoodie do you see that

[00:49:31] even possible to do no but you know but but i could see a place of business i mean

[00:49:37] even though i think it's hard to work but you know how some places have uh like signs that say like

[00:49:44] no shirt no shoes no service oh yeah but some of the clubs you can't get into a club in a lot of

[00:49:51] the clubs with uh a hoodie on you know they won't let you they won't let you in because they're too

[00:49:59] worried that keep in mind if you're wearing a hoodie to a to a club where people are partying

[00:50:07] and dancing eating whatever the case might be this says that you are too casual

[00:50:16] you may once you start drinking that you know because if you come in clean dress you know dress

[00:50:23] to impress you more likely you're not going to get in a fight with anybody because you don't want

[00:50:28] messing with your clothes hmm but if you come in with hoodies and jeans or anything that happened

[00:50:35] that night especially after a few drinks well you know that night that you were out hanging out in

[00:50:42] Miami you punched the guy up because he looked at you and yeah the hoodie on that night right but

[00:50:48] you know i think the bigger thing about the hoodie you know i'm gonna avoid your question because

[00:50:53] um they they just just like oh how university they they and catch me but um i think the biggest

[00:51:00] thing about the hoodie is just concealing your identity so you know a lot of people when you know

[00:51:07] you put up the hoodie you can't get a good look at what somebody looks like especially if it's dark

[00:51:12] outside so um i mean i i definitely understand the concern but i don't think banning hoodies in the

[00:51:22] city of Atlanta is the answer well it doesn't help too that every movie and every tv show that you watch

[00:51:30] when somebody give it a do something they have no business doors like rob something or cheat somebody

[00:51:34] whatever they got a hoodie on the first thing they do is pull that little over there it you know so

[00:51:41] that usually means that they're up to no good you know so um you know and not everybody's mom can

[00:51:48] get scared and you know sending their kid to bell air right right you know not everybody so can do

[00:51:57] that so you know they live with the honor now uncle and bell air i meant to say so so but well you

[00:52:05] stabbing you though didn't didn't have any of no okay all right no wrong wrong wrong show wrong

[00:52:14] show okay yeah all right anyway well and i there also um p a is also i'm talking about banning

[00:52:23] ski masks in Pennsylvania too and you know i'm okay with the ski mask like

[00:52:29] i mean they just say hoodies but they just said they did say ski masks in Pennsylvania

[00:52:34] yeah and i'm okay with ski masks

[00:52:38] yeah yeah that that especially up to this area since they actually have a real reason to

[00:52:44] worry about here you know that could be a problem it happens just like during the pandemic when

[00:52:50] people had masks on you know you know because they had to you know where um

[00:52:55] you know you figure all the robbers all the shady characters probably had a fill of day during that time

[00:53:02] you know oh i'm sure yeah cuz that was almost like a race to pass this for them to do whatever

[00:53:08] they wanted to do so yeah hoodies and the fit in in a in a mask on yeah that's cool

[00:53:16] so bad combo yeah that's a bad combo and anyway um but i'm sure that you know if they pass that

[00:53:26] down in the land and believe me it will be heard all over the world i'm sure so let's see what happens

[00:53:32] so all right uh we're finally down to Leonard's favorite part of the show which is called Dave's

[00:53:41] corner for the you guys that uh everybody knows about Dave's corner everybody knows Leonard likes

[00:53:46] Dave's corner questions that we always ask so tonight's question um is the following

[00:53:55] here you go Leonard if you had the chance to teach at any university in the united states

[00:54:04] where would you teach and what subject would you teach

[00:54:11] and and give a reason why or so Dave i'm going to teach at the number one HBCU in the nation

[00:54:21] talk about none others and Florida is it way hold on is that Howard University or Spelman or

[00:54:32] no i guess not huh if you have to ask then you don't know

[00:54:36] okay i just i just i just leave it like that the number one thing you would teach at your alma mater okay good

[00:54:43] yeah yeah Florida and em university okay and my class you know what i don't even know this is a

[00:54:51] class not but my class would be called the life class and we would go over so Dave you always

[00:55:00] say i need to write a book yeah so yeah this this class is going to be my book chapter by chapter

[00:55:07] and we're going to analyze um and i'll just say then what made me and didn't break me uh okay

[00:55:17] now does that look like an interesting class but how would you grade on this how would you grade

[00:55:22] i mean what would be how would you pass the course and then and how would this help to help your students

[00:55:31] so i would learn about your life i would probably use technology you know i would use AI

[00:55:40] to grade my students for so you have Alan iverson grade just grade your uh your students

[00:55:48] yep okay all right or Alfred Alfred i'm oh that's actually a e yeah i'm gonna use AI okay you're

[00:55:57] gonna use AI okay see how that goes all right okay okay all right so yeah okay

[00:56:06] you know the you know the name of your life class look look look for it's coming soon okay

[00:56:15] kind of like you know how Oprah has that on that master class series yeah yeah my this will be one of

[00:56:22] my master class this is gonna be your master class uh huh you and you and Oprah okay all right

[00:56:29] okay what about you if you have the chance to teach at any university in the USA

[00:56:35] where would you teach and what subject would you teach and why

[00:56:42] well if i had a chance to teach at any university um in the United States i would probably want to teach

[00:56:51] at Harvard okay now see how you're gonna with the pw i yeah yeah but there's a reason for that

[00:57:01] there's a reason for that i would like to to be able to go there and teach there

[00:57:10] a realism class on what is like to be really to be black in America

[00:57:18] and what it's like with the with a subtitle

[00:57:24] and try to obtain proper education okay um and i would definitely try to get as many black people

[00:57:38] in this class as i can and you know so that they can actually see us on campus you know um

[00:57:46] i think being able to go to a school like that and teach now you know when you look at the people

[00:57:53] that were going to Harvard and those type of schools divy lee schools you know there's a certain type

[00:58:00] of student that they are but i want to bring people of all different types of black

[00:58:11] um blackness you know i want the hood people i want the uh at Harvard yeah that's what i'm saying

[00:58:20] i want them at Harvard okay yeah i want the good people bring them on yeah i want i want the

[00:58:25] the upper league mobile i want the i want the the street people you know the people out there

[00:58:30] on the street but i want them all in the same class to be able to to have them running all over

[00:58:37] Harvard campus so that they can see what real real life looks like okay that's what i'm doing

[00:58:48] all right uh professor koker yeah that's right that's what i would do

[00:58:56] so that that's what i would do yeah definitely all right so there you have it folks that's

[00:59:04] so show for tonight um as a news and trends with davin lent i meant to ask you did you get a test look at the

[00:59:12] i don't know if anybody out there got a chance to look at it they did the Grammy

[00:59:17] that uh the tribute to hip-hop the 40 year anniversary they did last night you didn't get a chance to

[00:59:24] look at it i missed it uh the adjboy will Smith shut down he he he was the last person to perform

[00:59:33] he shut down the show oh wow him and jazzy Jeff yeah so i was like because when he first came out i was

[00:59:40] like okay how they gonna receive them you know but they were happy man they yeah you know

[00:59:46] these people rock you know they love will Smith man yeah they they know yeah so but it was

[00:59:52] it was pretty interesting if you get a chance check it out um it was pretty interesting yeah so

[00:59:58] all right we'll do all right well there you go folks thank you for taking the time to do

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