🎙Newz and Trendz with Dave and Len: Black News Episode 111

Newz and Trendz with Dave and Len (and Lamont): Talking all things Black News: Culture, Sports, Entertainment and Current Events ✊🏾

Dave and Len (and Lamont) speaking about:

* Thomas Lamont McLean Interview (https://www.bestkeptsoul.com/)

* FBI Raids Diddy's Residences in Los Angeles and Miami Amid Sex Trafficking Probe

* Democratic Lawmaker Uses Racial Slur During House Hearing: ‘I Misspoke’

* 6 MS Goon Squad Officers Sentenced to Combined 137 years for torturing 2 black men

* Daves's Corner: If you want to start a band ... you can choose from any well-known Celebrity Musician ... Dead or Alive to be in this band. You have to have a keyboard player, drummer, lead guitar, bass player, and female/male lead ... Give me a name...

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[00:00:00] All right, y'all, get ready for another edition of Newz and Trendz with your host Dave

[00:00:20] and Nick Lee.

[00:00:31] Welcome, welcome, welcome to Newz and Trendz with Dave and Len. This is one of your host

[00:00:36] David Coker, provided by Dave Markings, promoter, event planner, marketing specialist. He

[00:00:44] named it a little bit of everything. I do a little bit of everything. I ain't going

[00:00:49] to keep blowing my own horn. I'll let it let her do that. Anyway, I'm also a great guy.

[00:00:57] I'm not going to be a good guy today. I'm a great guy today. I'm hanging out with my

[00:01:01] partner, the letter. What's going on, sir?

[00:01:04] Dave, everything is good. I'm definitely not going to tut your horn. I'll tell you that

[00:01:10] I definitely, but everything is good. This is Leonard John, CEO of National Black

[00:01:15] Guide, Delaware Black.com, Black Media Specialist all around good guy. How's it going, David?

[00:01:21] Oh man, this is good, man. It's good. I can't complain. Made it to another weekend.

[00:01:28] Didn't look before too this weekend. We got used to weekend coming up, right? Yeah,

[00:01:34] that's right. This is easier to speak with. Somebody don't go to church, huh? You're

[00:01:43] an artist. We can ease it. Yeah, that's right. But anyway, so just weekend we got, well,

[00:01:51] the only reason this stays out big to me because I get we get Friday off. Good Friday

[00:01:56] is holiday for us. I'm good with that. But here we are, we made it to another week and

[00:02:06] I don't know. Did you do anything to say over the weekend, man?

[00:02:12] Yeah, I was born in noon at night Saturday and Sunday. I was at one meet for my son.

[00:02:18] Yeah, that's right. I thought you were all day. Well, you know, between your sons, women

[00:02:27] and you doing these triathletes at Lyon, trying to relieve your past glory. You're in

[00:02:37] our guest. I got a lot of comments when it comes to that kind of stuff. I'm going to

[00:02:43] live through you guys. That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to live through you guys.

[00:02:46] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm too old for that, man. I can't,

[00:02:52] you know, you guys just be, you know, well, you have to keep your assessor taters nearby all

[00:02:58] the time, man. You know, okay. And they had to be, they had to look a certain way. Okay,

[00:03:03] we can do that. Okay, there you go. There you go. All right. But anyway, but so you

[00:03:10] as when we thought we can and getting ready for it. And then you're getting ready for the

[00:03:16] Olympics or summer, right? Yes, what to watch on TV like all the spectators.

[00:03:22] Well, well, that's what we both are looking forward to the Olympics. So, you know, we can,

[00:03:31] you know, you can tell, you can, you can tell that that time is coming around. You say

[00:03:35] all the commercials and everything. So, so forward to that. Well, it's funny, you mentioned

[00:03:41] the Olympics because there are a couple of new sports that I kind of had to turn my eye at

[00:03:46] the one of them. My daughter told me about, do you know that break dancing

[00:03:51] in one of the new sports in this, this year's Olympics? No, I didn't. Yes.

[00:03:58] Is it going to be shown on TV? I mean, I'm sure the partial portions of it. I don't

[00:04:04] know if you're getting primed down. All right, and what up?

[00:04:09] In fact, let me look real quick. I know break dancing right off the hands. And then some of them

[00:04:14] were were sports that we don't really play in America, but let me just take a look real quick.

[00:04:20] Right there. Wow. All right. Is that is more than I can see that because all the countries,

[00:04:28] man, they all do it. So yeah, that's crazy. Yep. Some of the other events are surfing,

[00:04:35] skateboarding and sport climbing.

[00:04:40] They did skateboarding for maybe I'm sticking.

[00:04:45] Yeah, I thought they did that. So what I also read is that some years they take some events out.

[00:04:53] So like, for instance, I think I saw break dancing even though it's in 2024. It will not be

[00:05:00] in the Los Angeles Olympics, which is weird because you know, I'm sure they would think it would

[00:05:08] be there. Yeah. Right. So all right. Okay, well, that should be interesting as they put that on TV.

[00:05:16] I was definitely checking out because I want to see how they go around doing that.

[00:05:20] Yeah, yeah. That would be cool. Yeah. All right. Okay. Well, you know,

[00:05:26] well, the Olympics, of course, you know, I'm living in dying from the track still.

[00:05:32] And the swimming and even the gymnastics, you know, because I, you know,

[00:05:36] gymnastics, we probably have to be well represented this year with the gymnastics for

[00:05:41] the people of color. Oh, yeah. Hopefully. Yeah. Hopefully. But okay.

[00:05:50] All right. Well, I guess. Oh, and I just want to say, you know, special

[00:06:00] you know, I guess acknowledge what happened earlier today with the bridge down in Baltimore,

[00:06:07] outside of Baltimore there. You know, we're open that, you know,

[00:06:13] that we don't have too many fatalities or anything down there because I know they were still trying

[00:06:18] to pull people out of the water, right? Well, this morning, right? Yes. All right. So I didn't hear

[00:06:23] too much about it because I just wasn't, I didn't have access. Did they say how many people may have

[00:06:28] died? Well, at the time this morning, they didn't say how many people might have had died, but I know

[00:06:35] they said that they were definitely trying to get people out of the water. That's what they were

[00:06:41] trying to do. So, you know, you know, something like that happens, man. You know, it feels like

[00:06:48] yeah, you say yourself, you can't imagine something like up for one of our listeners,

[00:06:53] Charlemagne, you heard me talk about it. She texted me and sent me a note today and said that

[00:06:58] her granddaughter had just fought that bridge 10 minutes before it happened.

[00:07:03] I mean, I mean, I'm a terrifying. Can you imagine being on the bridge and seeing the ship

[00:07:09] like coming at your direction in, you know, fast pace? Yeah, it's crazy.

[00:07:16] You know, always think about that with the bridges in Wilmton, you know, 33 bridges and

[00:07:21] and the port because sometimes those tall ships be going under and the bridge don't open.

[00:07:26] It seems like it doesn't open fanfare for me. Right. So that's the old type of story. So

[00:07:31] but, you know, especially prayers after those folks down there and, you know, hopefully, you know,

[00:07:37] they're able to get that, you know, get everything done down after they need to get done. So,

[00:07:44] hopefully. All right. Well, folks, we have a get on with us today and, you know, we're fortunate

[00:07:53] enough to get this person because he's so busy. You know, we've been trying to, but we've been

[00:07:58] trying to plan this for about a year now. So, you know, but we finally got him. We finally caught

[00:08:03] up with him. Leonard, you do the honors and, you know, tell us who we have today. Yep.

[00:08:10] Today we have Thomas Lamont McLean. He's been playing guitar for over 35 years. He has taken

[00:08:18] music courses at Overbroke High School in St. Joseph University in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

[00:08:24] He has played in several Philadelphia local bands through the 80s, 90s and turned to music

[00:08:31] and video production commercialized during the 90s and early 2000s, which resulted in other

[00:08:38] production credits. Jingles, he has also produced for WDAS and Power 99 in Philadelphia

[00:08:46] and Power 104.7 in Baltimore. He returned to live performance in 2009 as the co-founder,

[00:08:55] lead guitarist and music director of the award-winning Women's and Bass Band Best kept soul.

[00:09:02] Also, player playing a lead guitar role for Eric Rogerson, Carol Riddett, LaVert 2,

[00:09:12] Nasian Nicole, known from the voice as well as open for Drew Hill, Kelly Price,

[00:09:18] Kiki Wyatt, Little Moe and many other major acts. He's also co-producer of the recently released

[00:09:28] EP My Day by Best kept soul and is often called on to fill in for some of the areas

[00:09:36] most high profile wedding bands. So without further ado, friend to the show, we'd like to welcome

[00:09:43] Thomas Lamont McLean. How you doing, Tom? That's so funny. Listen to that verbatim.

[00:09:52] I was like, who's this guy? I'm gonna say especially when I got to the air,

[00:09:59] Rogerson, Carol Riddett, LaVert, Nasian, Drew Hill, Kelly Price, Kiki Wyatt, Little Moe.

[00:10:06] So first... I was thinking I was like, how is this dude?

[00:10:15] He's right behind me. He got to be right behind me.

[00:10:17] Anyway, but we really appreciate you taking the time to hang out with us today, sir.

[00:10:25] Thank you. Thanks for even considering me for being on here.

[00:10:28] Like, who talks to me? Oh yeah. I'm just usually a guy at the background.

[00:10:35] People sit in here and talk to him because they're like a meme or something like that.

[00:10:38] Yeah. That's too funny but I can see why you feel that way.

[00:10:44] Because you definitely have some personalities that you always around all the time.

[00:10:49] So you definitely do.

[00:10:51] All right. Well, I guess we're gonna start out asking a few questions.

[00:10:56] The letter usually is the person like to take the leave with the question.

[00:11:00] So go ahead and learn.

[00:11:01] Well, I mean usually they say the boss goes first or the leader goes first.

[00:11:05] Oh, now on the boss now on the boss.

[00:11:07] Okay.

[00:11:07] All right.

[00:11:10] Go ahead.

[00:11:10] Okay. Thank you, sir.

[00:11:12] I still definitely welcome to the show. We're glad to have you on.

[00:11:16] And I'm sure Dave will kind of talk about his relationship with you but

[00:11:20] you know, of course.

[00:11:22] And Dave, I don't even know if you know because I didn't know you then and we'd be

[00:11:25] a part I never talked about.

[00:11:26] I met Lamont actually when I was very just starting Delaware Black dot com,

[00:11:32] I met Lamont.

[00:11:33] He was he Charlie and Rob were doing commercialized.

[00:11:39] Right.

[00:11:39] We don't know the video stuff.

[00:11:41] Yeah.

[00:11:42] And Dave, you probably don't know.

[00:11:44] We met in Lamont.

[00:11:45] You probably remember the Rose group.

[00:11:48] You remember?

[00:11:48] Yes.

[00:11:49] That's exactly what I'm going to be through and connecting with Hope and this

[00:11:54] and I'm doing things like getting business plans together

[00:11:59] and that was like really cool and crucial time.

[00:12:02] Like you know as far as like, you know, get into this thing

[00:12:06] and taking it seriously, you know, me as far as like,

[00:12:09] you know, just thinking about doing stuff before you actually do it.

[00:12:13] Yeah.

[00:12:14] And I mean, I was so long for sure Dave.

[00:12:16] Hope Rose.

[00:12:17] Basically she assembles some of her friends and people she know who were in business

[00:12:22] and I think we met maybe once a month and we kind of networked

[00:12:26] and like that's how I really got to know, you know, Lamont

[00:12:29] and you know the commercialized people and of course, I think that was before

[00:12:34] where I guess it'll maybe shortly before best kept soul.

[00:12:37] I'm looking at 2009 date.

[00:12:39] But Lamont, so here you know of course we're looking at your history

[00:12:45] and you know starting at Overbrook High School.

[00:12:48] When you were in high school, you know, at that time was it kind of like a love for music,

[00:12:54] a passion for music or and I only say because I think my freshmen's

[00:12:58] off me yeah, I played the triumbo but you know,

[00:13:02] I was just doing what I had to.

[00:13:03] So can you kind of speak to us about how, you know,

[00:13:07] your love for music or, you know, your activation to music kind of came about?

[00:13:13] Yeah.

[00:13:13] So that came about way beyond and like I was always around

[00:13:18] musically and played at the house between my mother and most of that older brother.

[00:13:24] You know, just playing like, you know,

[00:13:27] temptations, the finally, mad lads, you know, stuff like that.

[00:13:31] As I got older, you know, I started getting into listening to music.

[00:13:36] You know, I started like, you know, trying to figure out

[00:13:39] why do people like certain songs write, you know,

[00:13:41] write a certain song become hits and I was the lead to writers

[00:13:44] and writer credits and things like that.

[00:13:46] So in my mind, I wanted to become like a song writer because this is even before I picked up an instrument.

[00:13:53] Then what happened when I got to high school, you know,

[00:13:56] I decided hey, let me go ahead and you know,

[00:13:58] run an instrument, I started hanging around, you know, again, just, you know,

[00:14:01] music credits by that time I was in the Bootsie and, you know,

[00:14:05] brothers, Johns and things like that.

[00:14:06] So I had a friend down the street who played, he didn't really play it,

[00:14:10] but he had a bass guitar.

[00:14:11] He messed around, you know, we like fun, you know, we feel like that.

[00:14:14] So I said hey, I want to learn how to play bass guitar.

[00:14:17] I mentioned to my mom, you know, you know,

[00:14:19] she just got by me Christmas gifts at the time.

[00:14:21] So she wound up getting me a league of tar and lessons.

[00:14:24] So she didn't realize that I wanted a bass guitar and not a league of tar.

[00:14:28] But you know, I went with it and so like towards it in the highest school,

[00:14:31] I started to take lessons.

[00:14:34] I didn't really play much in high school.

[00:14:35] I was putting jazz band for a while, but I was still in a learning phase.

[00:14:40] So I didn't really keep up.

[00:14:41] But what I did get a chance to do was take some music theory classes

[00:14:44] and learn how to like, you know, start composing things and all that.

[00:14:47] So my whole drive was to create music through again,

[00:14:51] make the stuff that I grew up on to try to create music

[00:14:54] and create those, you know, memories and feelings

[00:14:57] that those songs exude from people.

[00:14:59] So that's kind of how I started there.

[00:15:01] And then once I got out of high school,

[00:15:03] I met with some guys while I was in college,

[00:15:05] a neighborhood guy's and we started, you know,

[00:15:08] various different bands.

[00:15:09] And you know, just messing around with neighborhood

[00:15:11] doing little gigs here and there.

[00:15:13] And everybody, by the time everybody was into prints

[00:15:16] and rig james and what did it be?

[00:15:17] Those things.

[00:15:18] And wanting to be multi-instrumentalist and all.

[00:15:22] And so that's kind of how the early stage

[00:15:24] is going to go off of me as well.

[00:15:26] Got you.

[00:15:27] Now, do you remember your first band, I guess,

[00:15:31] gig like, like, can you kind of tell us about like,

[00:15:36] well, first tell us about the band,

[00:15:38] some of the people who are in it.

[00:15:39] And then do you remember your first performance with that group?

[00:15:42] Oh, man, I remember it vividly.

[00:15:44] So we were in a band that had,

[00:15:46] I think you have a keyboard player,

[00:15:48] but it was like two guitar players, a bass player.

[00:15:51] Drama, we had a Lee Singer who again was kind of on the prints

[00:15:55] thing.

[00:15:55] So we had tight clothes on his neck here.

[00:16:00] And you know, we'd be down to bass and we were rehearsing

[00:16:03] in Winfield, Winfield section of Pissing Bay.

[00:16:06] And I remember our first gig specifically,

[00:16:08] we played, I was going to say,

[00:16:09] in Jersey, the first gig was spread at the street from there.

[00:16:12] And so we played in the theater.

[00:16:13] We had like a little small theater.

[00:16:15] A theater that was kind of made for like,

[00:16:17] you know, doing acting and drama in all this.

[00:16:20] So we wouldn't there with amps.

[00:16:23] And you know, all this big sound system

[00:16:26] and we cranked it up and we just hear the shhh.

[00:16:30] I'm sorry.

[00:16:30] This gig was crazy.

[00:16:32] It was people like,

[00:16:33] we just had a crank that we were in there playing prints

[00:16:36] and you know, just you know,

[00:16:37] phone and you know,

[00:16:39] angels of center for, you know,

[00:16:41] just you know, stuff that we were kind of into on that day.

[00:16:43] So I remember that it was fun.

[00:16:47] But and all we care was that we would just make the music

[00:16:50] right now.

[00:16:51] Did you all have an audience?

[00:16:52] Was there like a like,

[00:16:53] I think it was probably like a talent show,

[00:16:57] very calm.

[00:16:57] OK.

[00:16:58] But I didn't really like a black history

[00:17:00] but I'm telling sure something like that.

[00:17:02] So yeah, we just wouldn't there did our thing

[00:17:04] and you know,

[00:17:04] whether the audience were there or not

[00:17:06] and then we would just get in there.

[00:17:08] We just do it if we were playing

[00:17:09] that we were like playing on a stage in front of him.

[00:17:12] And we go over there.

[00:17:14] But we really love.

[00:17:15] Now, now, do you remember how you like,

[00:17:18] would y'all say y'all did a good job?

[00:17:20] Did y'all win the talent show?

[00:17:21] Or were there,

[00:17:22] I don't know.

[00:17:23] I'm not going to put it in.

[00:17:25] You play so loud that I don't know

[00:17:27] everybody could decipher what we've been doing.

[00:17:29] Right.

[00:17:30] So.

[00:17:31] Yeah.

[00:17:32] Now at that point, it was more like,

[00:17:34] it was more like, you know,

[00:17:35] how I made you feel,

[00:17:36] you know, like, you know,

[00:17:37] you just knew for yourself,

[00:17:39] you wouldn't need to choke, you know what I mean.

[00:17:41] So,

[00:17:42] but no, that started that.

[00:17:44] And let me start to get a little gags here and there around

[00:17:46] until I remember we did something at a middle school

[00:17:50] that was not far enough in the Winter area.

[00:17:53] And I remember us going in there.

[00:17:54] And again, you know,

[00:17:55] we do some cool songs and everything.

[00:17:57] I don't know if we necessarily doing the best job.

[00:17:59] But all we knew is that we had a bunch of middle school kids

[00:18:02] that were just chasing us around the school

[00:18:04] with the beatles and stuff like that.

[00:18:06] Right.

[00:18:07] Like, we had kids crying like,

[00:18:09] with that.

[00:18:10] Oh wow.

[00:18:11] Again, you know, we were just playing music

[00:18:13] and, you know,

[00:18:14] I guess they would just have to see a band,

[00:18:15] they look like them and all that.

[00:18:17] So, yeah, you know,

[00:18:19] it was kind of like built in you that the desire to kind of like

[00:18:22] a hardcore, I'm gonna do this one.

[00:18:24] The music thing, I wanna make people feel like this

[00:18:26] and give people that rise.

[00:18:28] So, yeah, that started earlier on.

[00:18:30] So, you know,

[00:18:31] luckily I was around people who got music

[00:18:33] who, you know,

[00:18:35] I still have some friends today

[00:18:36] that you know,

[00:18:37] who's like,

[00:18:38] who's experiences

[00:18:39] and everything like that.

[00:18:40] We got that tied to music and everything like that.

[00:18:42] So, right, definitely.

[00:18:44] And I guess for the people

[00:18:45] who may not be familiar,

[00:18:46] you know, probably Dave included.

[00:18:48] Can you kind of break down the,

[00:18:51] maybe some of the typical

[00:18:54] and I won't say members of a band

[00:18:57] but the

[00:18:59] to kind of like how you have like the Taurus,

[00:19:01] the Eats Sanger

[00:19:02] and specifically because my question

[00:19:04] dealt always what is the difference

[00:19:06] between bass and a guitarist?

[00:19:09] But yeah, so of course,

[00:19:10] John, you know,

[00:19:11] everybody's familiar with the drums.

[00:19:12] Right.

[00:19:13] The groove and the reason like that.

[00:19:15] The drums bar kind of line with the bass guitar

[00:19:18] because it gives you that bottom seal

[00:19:21] and then Dave's bass guitar place

[00:19:22] so he has to use this.

[00:19:24] Hold on, hold on.

[00:19:25] Dave's a what?

[00:19:26] Oh, you know that?

[00:19:27] Dave's a bass guitar.

[00:19:28] No, no, no, no.

[00:19:31] I told you that here is the,

[00:19:33] no, no, no, no.

[00:19:35] No, no.

[00:19:36] I didn't,

[00:19:37] you know,

[00:19:38] you know,

[00:19:39] you're a student,

[00:19:40] you're a brand new listener.

[00:19:41] Take that cap off.

[00:19:42] I don't know if that's how it goes.

[00:19:44] But anyway,

[00:19:45] go ahead and a little bit.

[00:19:47] Yeah, let's go ahead and a little bit.

[00:19:49] So the bass and drums work together

[00:19:53] to kind of give the song the drive,

[00:19:54] you know, me like everything from the temple

[00:19:57] to the field of rhythm

[00:19:58] to the style of music.

[00:20:00] Guitar, a league guitar player,

[00:20:02] which is what I play,

[00:20:03] it's kind of more melodic.

[00:20:05] You know, acoustic guitar.

[00:20:06] You get that all the time, right?

[00:20:07] So it kind of,

[00:20:08] you know, it's kind of like the,

[00:20:10] it could be melodic

[00:20:12] and set the melody in a tone for a song

[00:20:15] as far as the feel,

[00:20:16] for the singer to sing over.

[00:20:18] Or it could be like a leading instrument

[00:20:20] that's out there just like,

[00:20:21] you know, rocking it out like a Prince or Jimmy Hendrix.

[00:20:24] Then push that keyboard

[00:20:25] which, you know,

[00:20:26] you know, kind of gives it like a really same thing

[00:20:29] as far as like,

[00:20:30] you know,

[00:20:31] giving the melody and everything like that

[00:20:33] but just making the song wide

[00:20:35] and adding,

[00:20:36] you know,

[00:20:37] just like, you know,

[00:20:38] sounds and fills and things like that.

[00:20:40] So,

[00:20:42] so usually those,

[00:20:43] those,

[00:20:44] for the most part,

[00:20:45] the bands that I've been a part of

[00:20:46] that comprise of those four pieces.

[00:20:48] In some cases,

[00:20:49] I've been in bands that had

[00:20:51] two guitars,

[00:20:52] bass player drums

[00:20:53] because keyboard players sometimes are,

[00:20:54] you know,

[00:20:55] ready to hard define or good ones.

[00:20:59] Then you get a guitar,

[00:21:00] this I was in one band

[00:21:01] that actually had two bass players.

[00:21:03] We started to experience two bass players.

[00:21:05] So you kind of have like a bass player

[00:21:07] that was a lead and one that was a rhythm.

[00:21:10] So the,

[00:21:11] and the purpose of it was to have like a one bass player

[00:21:14] that kind of helped the pocket down

[00:21:16] and the other bass player was kind of like

[00:21:17] more of a guy who popped every Friday.

[00:21:19] You know, we,

[00:21:20] again,

[00:21:21] that was one of those things

[00:21:22] that we was just trying and we,

[00:21:22] you know,

[00:21:23] we were just doing all the thing.

[00:21:24] We,

[00:21:25] you know, have fun with it

[00:21:26] and people didn't necessarily,

[00:21:27] some people would look at a strange light

[00:21:28] into bass players

[00:21:29] but you know,

[00:21:30] we made it work.

[00:21:31] It was fun experience,

[00:21:32] you know,

[00:21:33] this experiment was something new.

[00:21:34] But yeah,

[00:21:35] those are those,

[00:21:36] those are basically four essential,

[00:21:37] you see a lot of bands

[00:21:38] and you know,

[00:21:39] of course it's foreign sections

[00:21:40] and percussion

[00:21:41] and you know,

[00:21:42] in all the sides

[00:21:43] and on your budget

[00:21:44] you can work with stuff.

[00:21:45] Yeah,

[00:21:46] that's,

[00:21:47] that's okay to budget.

[00:21:48] You know,

[00:21:49] so you want to add all those extra pieces there.

[00:21:52] Alright.

[00:21:53] Go ahead,

[00:21:54] go ahead,

[00:21:55] and so of course,

[00:21:56] Best Capsule was founded in 2009.

[00:22:00] Can,

[00:22:01] can you kind of tell us

[00:22:02] a little bit about,

[00:22:03] you know,

[00:22:04] I guess,

[00:22:05] founding,

[00:22:06] that group,

[00:22:07] you know,

[00:22:08] how you kind of connected those people.

[00:22:10] Because I guess a lot of time when I think about bands,

[00:22:13] I almost think of them like businesses

[00:22:15] where you know,

[00:22:16] a lot of businesses don't make it five years

[00:22:19] and you know,

[00:22:20] of course,

[00:22:21] that means that this year is your 15th anniversary

[00:22:23] of Best Capsule

[00:22:25] and you know,

[00:22:26] and I remember

[00:22:27] with Best Capsule 2009,

[00:22:29] there were top of the charts,

[00:22:31] you know,

[00:22:32] this area

[00:22:33] and still in 2024,

[00:22:35] there were top of charts in this area.

[00:22:37] So it's like, you know,

[00:22:38] how do you,

[00:22:39] I mean,

[00:22:40] of course with assembling the right people,

[00:22:42] how do you kind of,

[00:22:43] you know,

[00:22:44] stay on top

[00:22:45] all these years?

[00:22:47] Well,

[00:22:48] I'd say from one thing,

[00:22:50] 2000 hours of first year,

[00:22:51] so we were just kind of getting things off the ground.

[00:22:55] But,

[00:22:56] you're referring back to like the stuff that was going before him

[00:22:58] or commercialized

[00:22:59] and you know,

[00:23:00] like the Rosebeap and everything like that.

[00:23:02] That was kind of like,

[00:23:04] that stuff that was going to commercialize

[00:23:06] and like we would go out,

[00:23:07] you know,

[00:23:08] through events,

[00:23:09] but we also had like a milliness

[00:23:11] that we put together,

[00:23:12] and we were sent out to people

[00:23:13] that let people know,

[00:23:14] hey, you know,

[00:23:15] just do broadcast.

[00:23:16] Because commercialized

[00:23:17] of anybody,

[00:23:18] obviously people probably don't know.

[00:23:19] It was just like a little advertisement.

[00:23:21] We were doing,

[00:23:22] we were creating content

[00:23:23] or going out

[00:23:24] and recording talent shows,

[00:23:25] comedy shows,

[00:23:26] but then we also had advertisements.

[00:23:28] So our idea was to,

[00:23:30] so,

[00:23:31] you know,

[00:23:32] commercialized or advertisement

[00:23:34] spots for small businesses,

[00:23:35] focus on small businesses.

[00:23:37] And then they would have the content

[00:23:39] of the different performances

[00:23:41] and other shows

[00:23:42] and everything to kind of fill in that.

[00:23:43] So one of the things we did,

[00:23:45] again was like to have a milling list

[00:23:47] that we created

[00:23:48] to send out to people say,

[00:23:49] hey, are next to me.

[00:23:50] Actually,

[00:23:51] we actually had a channel on channel 20

[00:23:52] or podcast too.

[00:23:53] So we were let people know,

[00:23:54] hey, the next episode is coming up.

[00:23:55] So we kind of build a milling list from that.

[00:23:57] What happened is that,

[00:23:58] like I said,

[00:23:59] we would also do like talent shows.

[00:24:00] And as I got more around the talent shows,

[00:24:02] I got that urge to play again,

[00:24:04] you know,

[00:24:05] being around musicians

[00:24:06] and everything like that.

[00:24:07] So through that,

[00:24:08] I want to hope people

[00:24:09] are simply in touch.

[00:24:10] We had a talent show called

[00:24:12] Frontstage Fridays,

[00:24:14] Boogie Darrell Boogie Howard.

[00:24:17] He was a bass player

[00:24:19] but he was also our assistant.

[00:24:21] I linked up with him.

[00:24:22] You know,

[00:24:23] we started talking about different people

[00:24:24] that we knew

[00:24:25] that might want to be a part of the band.

[00:24:27] And so, you know, by time,

[00:24:29] in 2008,

[00:24:30] you know, it was kind of like the,

[00:24:31] you know,

[00:24:32] you don't have ideals around.

[00:24:33] Come 2009, we kind of had,

[00:24:35] like some pieces and everything in place.

[00:24:37] We said, hey, let's go ahead

[00:24:38] and find some opportunities.

[00:24:40] Later, you and I had worked

[00:24:42] on commercialized

[00:24:44] on going on the recording for a year,

[00:24:46] Delaware with Black Awards show,

[00:24:48] 2008.

[00:24:49] So I think that year,

[00:24:52] you know,

[00:24:53] commercialized is doing the recording

[00:24:55] and doing 2008,

[00:24:57] going into 2009,

[00:24:58] it was with the band,

[00:24:59] starting coming together.

[00:25:00] And I think, you know,

[00:25:02] Boogie approached me about, hey,

[00:25:04] you know,

[00:25:05] he used the band,

[00:25:06] you know, right?

[00:25:07] It has to come out.

[00:25:08] We got the lobby area,

[00:25:09] you know, we played.

[00:25:10] We had some good pieces in place.

[00:25:12] And it just gave us exposure,

[00:25:14] you know, people were like, oh,

[00:25:15] there's a band,

[00:25:16] you know, like an event

[00:25:17] or anything like that.

[00:25:18] You know,

[00:25:19] we were still, you know,

[00:25:20] body coach,

[00:25:21] it was people like Tracey A

[00:25:22] and two of the Macs

[00:25:23] and Brian,

[00:25:24] Brian G2 and everything like that.

[00:25:26] So, you know,

[00:25:28] we started, you know,

[00:25:29] started getting a little

[00:25:30] follow-through there.

[00:25:31] We started getting little gigs

[00:25:32] near after that.

[00:25:33] And then, you know,

[00:25:34] come to Dallas.

[00:25:36] And I guess about that time,

[00:25:37] it was 2010.

[00:25:38] The awards ceremony came around.

[00:25:41] And we, you know,

[00:25:43] we ever get ourselves nominated.

[00:25:44] You know,

[00:25:46] through social media

[00:25:47] and just, you know,

[00:25:48] association,

[00:25:49] kind of being present,

[00:25:50] you know, we were not leaving

[00:25:51] and blessed enough to have

[00:25:52] a wonderful day of their band,

[00:25:54] you know.

[00:25:55] That's band, you know,

[00:25:56] for the Delaware Black.

[00:25:58] The following year

[00:25:59] and I was just good exposure

[00:26:01] and, you know, just exposed

[00:26:02] to a lot of people

[00:26:03] businesses and,

[00:26:04] you know,

[00:26:05] little small gigs started coming

[00:26:06] here and there.

[00:26:07] In the meantime,

[00:26:08] you know, like you said,

[00:26:09] as far as getting pieces in place,

[00:26:10] you know, we had a

[00:26:11] rotation of, you know,

[00:26:12] vocalists and everything like that.

[00:26:13] The city about,

[00:26:15] no city is a local singer

[00:26:17] musician.

[00:26:18] We used them at one point.

[00:26:20] And we had a lot of

[00:26:22] people who were

[00:26:24] in the city.

[00:26:25] And so Joseph and there,

[00:26:26] then we locked in with

[00:26:28] Darrell Buggie's wife,

[00:26:30] Uzukara.

[00:26:31] And then we came across Ann,

[00:26:33] the trees Darrell boarded her

[00:26:34] to rehearsal.

[00:26:35] And we're like,

[00:26:36] you know, she was a

[00:26:37] karaoke singer.

[00:26:38] But she brought in a whole

[00:26:39] lot of, like, you know,

[00:26:40] just a lot of,

[00:26:41] I guess about being a

[00:26:42] karaoke singer,

[00:26:43] she brought in a lot of background

[00:26:45] as far as different songs

[00:26:46] and she liked

[00:26:47] do different artists

[00:26:48] and so, you know, by the end of

[00:26:50] 2010, we kind of like, you

[00:26:52] know, started

[00:26:53] fronting the right pieces.

[00:26:54] Joe,

[00:26:55] sheels on drums,

[00:26:56] we boarded it.

[00:26:57] We had a couple of difficult

[00:26:58] keyboard players.

[00:26:59] But, you know, we were

[00:27:00] kind of cohesive enough to be

[00:27:02] able to start doing, you know,

[00:27:03] events and start getting

[00:27:05] a little name for ourselves.

[00:27:07] And like I said,

[00:27:08] the award ceremony was

[00:27:09] a big boost to us as well.

[00:27:11] And so, like you said,

[00:27:12] I think that's the main thing

[00:27:13] is just getting the right

[00:27:14] pieces and taking the time

[00:27:15] and being patient.

[00:27:17] And making sure you get the right

[00:27:18] personalities to work with you.

[00:27:20] And I like to always think in

[00:27:22] terms of, like, building

[00:27:23] around the talent that you have.

[00:27:25] So, you know, we were looking

[00:27:27] up to have, you know,

[00:27:28] and as a good singer city,

[00:27:29] as a good singer performer,

[00:27:31] Chakaya is a good,

[00:27:32] you know, supporting

[00:27:33] the vocalist.

[00:27:34] And, you know,

[00:27:36] you kind of, you know,

[00:27:37] you kind of use those

[00:27:38] pieces to kind of, like,

[00:27:40] you know, create your identity.

[00:27:42] And, you know,

[00:27:43] we just kind of did a

[00:27:44] smart about that.

[00:27:45] And at the same time,

[00:27:46] we were using some of the

[00:27:47] business acumen as far as, like,

[00:27:49] you know, having a mailing list

[00:27:50] and letting people know

[00:27:51] where we were going to be at.

[00:27:52] And, you know,

[00:27:53] just, you know, trying to do

[00:27:54] a decent job of marketing

[00:27:55] ourselves and, you know,

[00:27:56] the video, like so,

[00:27:57] I was already doing video

[00:27:58] on how access to equipment.

[00:28:00] So, we were able to do,

[00:28:02] you know, recordings of our

[00:28:03] songs, kind of help

[00:28:04] emotion and things like that,

[00:28:05] you know, just getting

[00:28:06] websites and stuff like that.

[00:28:07] So, you know, just taking

[00:28:09] all those pieces.

[00:28:10] So it wasn't just the band

[00:28:11] itself, which of course,

[00:28:12] you know, you got to have

[00:28:13] the right pieces and telling the

[00:28:14] people about the way we do

[00:28:15] the things that we do.

[00:28:16] And so, you know,

[00:28:17] we're just making sure we

[00:28:18] are doing the right things

[00:28:19] as far as, like, you know,

[00:28:20] how we conduct ourselves.

[00:28:21] And, you know, we were

[00:28:22] really excited to play

[00:28:23] at, you know, and, you know,

[00:28:24] people, you know, different

[00:28:25] people know, different people

[00:28:26] are David.

[00:28:27] David, different times has

[00:28:28] helped us, you know,

[00:28:29] good connections that he put

[00:28:30] us in touch with as well.

[00:28:31] You know, to get us in a certain

[00:28:33] place is a certain venue

[00:28:34] and connect us with people.

[00:28:35] So it's been, you know,

[00:28:38] it's been obviously, you know,

[00:28:40] a mix of talent, you know,

[00:28:42] just being smart about the

[00:28:43] scissors and make about where

[00:28:44] to play, who to play,

[00:28:45] where if we could deal with

[00:28:47] and just grind the straight

[00:28:48] or not grind.

[00:28:49] You know, you couldn't go

[00:28:50] out there in demand, you

[00:28:51] know, you know, some of

[00:28:53] the money that, you know,

[00:28:54] some of the bands

[00:28:56] wrote every month.

[00:28:57] But we took the

[00:28:58] smaller opportunities and

[00:28:59] used those to kind of, you

[00:29:01] know, build into large

[00:29:02] opportunities and better

[00:29:03] visibility for us.

[00:29:04] And so we're just kind of

[00:29:05] been rolling on that,

[00:29:06] using that kind of same, you

[00:29:08] know, mindset.

[00:29:09] You know, you've been

[00:29:11] passed, you know,

[00:29:12] 15 years.

[00:29:13] Got it.

[00:29:14] And then my last question

[00:29:15] then I left my partner

[00:29:17] Dave because I'm sure he

[00:29:18] got some questions as well.

[00:29:19] So of all the people

[00:29:21] you work with, you know, such

[00:29:23] as Eric Rosen,

[00:29:24] Carol, Reddit,

[00:29:25] Loverto, who has been your

[00:29:27] favorite performer

[00:29:30] to work with?

[00:29:31] Wow.

[00:29:32] And some of the years

[00:29:33] in your career

[00:29:34] and your career

[00:29:35] is a lot of things that

[00:29:36] you can do.

[00:29:37] And some of the years,

[00:29:38] like Carol, Reddit and

[00:29:39] Eric Robus, some of those

[00:29:40] guys were kind of went

[00:29:41] off.

[00:29:42] But, um,

[00:29:43] out external to the band,

[00:29:46] I guess anybody working

[00:29:48] with, I think Eric

[00:29:50] Robus was pretty dope.

[00:29:51] We actually went with him

[00:29:53] on a couple of occasions.

[00:29:54] You know, musically his

[00:29:57] music is all, you know,

[00:29:58] it's pretty cool and different

[00:30:00] and it's a bit

[00:30:01] a bit more than that.

[00:30:02] And then he did his

[00:30:04] performance of A.E.

[00:30:06] He just doesn't

[00:30:07] go out and say he

[00:30:08] performs, he has

[00:30:09] fun with people, you know,

[00:30:10] fun with people he

[00:30:11] interacts.

[00:30:12] Right.

[00:30:13] I actually had, he even

[00:30:14] been like, don't

[00:30:15] commercialize, it's kind

[00:30:16] of funny.

[00:30:17] He had actually

[00:30:18] interview Eric Robus in

[00:30:19] the right years before I

[00:30:20] had a chance to play

[00:30:21] with him.

[00:30:22] Or just on a humble.

[00:30:23] We were just kind of

[00:30:24] looking for different things

[00:30:25] and people was playing

[00:30:26] for New Year's Eve at

[00:30:27] the fully, fully live.

[00:30:28] You know, I had a chance

[00:30:29] to interview with him

[00:30:30] and talk about music

[00:30:31] and theory and things

[00:30:32] like that.

[00:30:33] So yeah, I'm running

[00:30:34] to him over a few

[00:30:35] times over the years.

[00:30:36] So he's been up pretty

[00:30:37] John Boogat and

[00:30:38] work with Billy Downer

[00:30:39] Cat.

[00:30:40] Fun, you know, you know,

[00:30:41] really, you know, good as

[00:30:43] far as I can provide

[00:30:44] things like that.

[00:30:45] So, then that would be my

[00:30:46] guy.

[00:30:47] Yeah, he's real

[00:30:48] down there.

[00:30:49] He's really cool.

[00:30:50] I've seen him a couple

[00:30:51] of times.

[00:30:52] And his show is really

[00:30:54] really cool.

[00:30:55] I mean, he gives you

[00:30:57] that, you know, he's a

[00:30:59] perfect artist for

[00:31:00] like that small room setting

[00:31:02] where people would really

[00:31:03] appreciate him and everything.

[00:31:05] And he, you know, he

[00:31:06] relates well with the

[00:31:07] audience.

[00:31:08] And, you know, he just

[00:31:09] has everybody having

[00:31:10] a good time.

[00:31:11] And he's funny.

[00:31:12] He's funny.

[00:31:13] Yeah.

[00:31:14] But all right.

[00:31:15] All right.

[00:31:16] It's funny guys.

[00:31:17] You guys were talking

[00:31:18] just that I was sitting here

[00:31:19] thinking back

[00:31:20] to when you guys did do

[00:31:21] that first time.

[00:31:22] And then he said,

[00:31:23] yeah, I'm going to say

[00:31:24] that I'm going to say

[00:31:25] that I'm going to say that

[00:31:26] that I'm going to say

[00:31:27] that I'm going to say

[00:31:28] that I'm going to say that

[00:31:29] you guys were talking

[00:31:30] about when you guys did

[00:31:31] do that first door

[00:31:33] where black awards.

[00:31:34] That is too funny.

[00:31:35] I think back to what happened

[00:31:36] that day for me because

[00:31:37] not knowing letters at

[00:31:38] that time,

[00:31:39] not knowing you guys

[00:31:40] at that time.

[00:31:41] You know, talk earlier.

[00:31:43] Talk earlier.

[00:31:44] Talk earlier.

[00:31:45] Talk earlier.

[00:31:46] Talk earlier.

[00:31:47] You know, what I chose the

[00:31:48] reason I was there

[00:31:49] at that award show

[00:31:50] because I was there

[00:31:52] representing the full

[00:31:53] effect there.

[00:31:54] Hmm.

[00:31:55] So,

[00:31:56] So I was there because they had gotten nominated for Best Band and that year to the maximum,

[00:32:05] to the maximum of that particular year.

[00:32:08] So I was there with full effect because I had been doing some work with them and they had gotten nominated.

[00:32:15] So you know, I remember going through the lobby and I'm looking at this band play and at the time Phil Joseph and Tim

[00:32:22] with playing K-4s at the time.

[00:32:25] Yeah, yeah, and you know, and you know, I'm looking at this band. I was like who's this band?

[00:32:31] And I'm saying, you know, they're pretty good. You know, I'm just checking them out.

[00:32:39] And it was because of that particular award show that I met Leonard too at that particular.

[00:32:50] That's when I actually met him, he said stalker because I made an attempt to try to actually introduce myself to him that night.

[00:32:59] It didn't happen.

[00:33:01] But a few days later.

[00:33:04] Yes, people who have been there.

[00:33:07] Yeah, this people home you are.

[00:33:10] Yeah, well, a few days later we were there.

[00:33:15] I ended up at that member of the restaurant bar of sweet teas that was that particular highway.

[00:33:21] I go down to sweet tea and sitting at the bar is Leonard.

[00:33:28] And so I introduced myself.

[00:33:31] Okay, nice.

[00:33:34] He likes to say that because he always says that because we have you know, we've of course known each other every since, you know.

[00:33:43] But that I was thinking about how as you were talking, I was just thinking about that particular period of time.

[00:33:51] As far as bands go and as far as having that year, you have been around music myself and so forth.

[00:33:58] And then and bands in the past myself.

[00:34:01] I know that you have to have a certain ear for music in order to be able to do what you do as a musical director as far as best kept soul and some of the other projects that you worked on.

[00:34:17] What helps you with being able to stay in the pocket as far as, you know, being able to get the right songs and to get the right mix and to get the, you know, do it.

[00:34:32] You know, what cover bands, you know, the key is trying to sound like the song.

[00:34:38] But not necessarily doing the song 100% to that particular song, if you follow what I'm saying.

[00:34:47] I know.

[00:34:48] Yeah.

[00:34:49] So what makes, well, how do you do that? How do you, how do you keep it real?

[00:34:55] But keep it best kept soul way or whoever whatever project you're working on?

[00:35:01] So what I've come to learn is that our best are like working with people who actually are into the songs.

[00:35:12] Like, all right. So I've been around wedding bands and you know wedding bands are sometimes asked to play songs that don't necessarily like or they don't necessarily do.

[00:35:21] But would you have requests to do that? You know, maybe like some wedding people, some wedding parties will ask you for.

[00:35:27] They'll give you a specific list of songs to do.

[00:35:30] Yeah, give me buff it or something like that. Right, right, right.

[00:35:35] We're lucky in that, you know, people hire us most of the time because across these just like what we do.

[00:35:42] But things that we do are songs that end the way and the way is one of our needs singers, of course.

[00:35:49] Or back in the back of the city that they do that they do comfortably that they do offensively.

[00:35:54] So it's not like they're trying to, you know, like they grew up in these songs.

[00:35:58] They grew up listening to these songs and grew up singing these songs and I mean, I guess they're authentic.

[00:36:01] So that's one thing we always have always, you know, asked, you know, they bring to table songs you like to do.

[00:36:07] Right? So that makes it easier for you to, you know, when you're not reading words, you're singing the song as though the song is yours.

[00:36:14] You know, we also, you know, we have a core like I think I'm so people on a couple occasions that like our core music.

[00:36:24] I think it's probably like we're probably about six and seventy percent like 90s or early 2000s that type of vibe and everything like that.

[00:36:32] But it's cool because right now our niche is like, you know, our audience, people that hire us and everything like that.

[00:36:38] And we're not stretching to do songs that we don't typically do.

[00:36:48] So that makes it the easy part.

[00:36:51] The other part is that we actually have some decent musicians like we don't like, like you were saying earlier,

[00:36:55] like there's a balance between trying to do the songs exactly like they're done which maybe it was just up to me.

[00:37:02] I would do that, but we don't necessarily do that because everybody kind of has their own flavor.

[00:37:06] They bring to the songs. I think that makes it unique.

[00:37:09] We like to mix songs up. We like to do transitions and they'll be fun like that.

[00:37:13] So, you know, you know, we don't necessarily sit there and you know count off a song.

[00:37:17] And you want to feel like it sounds like a record.

[00:37:19] We, you know, will sometimes flow in a song because I'll see like people dancing to a certain groove or whatever.

[00:37:25] And we'll transition to the next song and keep them in that groove.

[00:37:29] Like they'll even know if they're in the next song, you know what I mean?

[00:37:32] So, so we do things like that. We're not too much, we're not too bothered with book.

[00:37:37] But obviously, like I said because of the fact these people sing these songs, they group them to sing these songs.

[00:37:42] They still bring off a fantasy of singing the song.

[00:37:47] Like, you know, you're used to hearing it.

[00:37:49] You know, mixed in with what we kind of bring it is our own little different flavors of the song that makes sense.

[00:37:54] Right. Yeah. And that makes a lot of sense because it's nothing like being in a room full of people and you listen to a band.

[00:38:03] And nobody is moved by what's being played because one thing the people will do automatically, oh man, they don't sound like the song.

[00:38:15] You know, that sounds like, you know, you know, and people are critical that way because the way they want to hear,

[00:38:21] they want to know who you hit the first few notes.

[00:38:25] Right. They want to know what that song is.

[00:38:27] Right. You know what I mean?

[00:38:29] You know, like, you know, there's certain before I let go, the first time I go, you know.

[00:38:37] Okay. You hit the actual.

[00:38:39] You hit the actual rightness. Yeah.

[00:38:42] You don't get that intro right is done. You know, people are like, oh man, they didn't do that right at all.

[00:38:48] So we got to mix it up and keep them mixes like, you know, I keep the song offending but, you know, add all the little flavor.

[00:38:56] And one of the things that I get to kick out about for over the years, and I think, remember, first time I heard it was at Shades of Movie Guys and we went out and I'm going to play a boulevard.

[00:39:05] Yeah.

[00:39:06] We were just doing a typical Thursday night. They had bands, you know, Thursday night.

[00:39:09] And we were just doing our thing. And like I said, we do, you know, we kind of do transitions.

[00:39:13] We keep the song moving and we keep the flow going.

[00:39:16] And I remember one time here somebody saying, wow, I feel like I'm at a concert.

[00:39:20] And that was it.

[00:39:21] To me, that was like so humbling and it felt so like gratifying that somebody just sitting at a bar, you know, we were in there just, you know, going on Thursday night things trying to get our grind on.

[00:39:33] And somebody felt that, you know, we've worked at a concert experience to them.

[00:39:37] You know what I mean? So it's just like little takeaways like that that, you know, that I get a kick out of that, you know, that helps me know that we're going the right thing.

[00:39:47] Well, it's funny that she just said because it kind of takes me back and thinking about, you know, and shout out to Miss Cynthia Tire there.

[00:39:59] I read whatever day she goes by, you know, she takes it up every now and then.

[00:40:03] And you know, that's our buddy for it.

[00:40:05] So, you know, but but going back to the blue pair and all the stuff that was going on at the blue pair.

[00:40:13] Now this is the kind of stuff that we miss now.

[00:40:17] We don't really have anymore, you know, a lot of the venues that we used to go to that we can hear a lot of music on a regular basis.

[00:40:28] Or not there anymore, the traditional spice that blue pair.

[00:40:32] Let the letter did you ever go over there to the blue pair when they used to have Cynthia had the the Sunday, the Sunday thing over there?

[00:40:42] Yes all the time.

[00:40:43] In and out musicians in and out of there every Sunday and you can sit there and just.

[00:40:50] This is read out on music man and then then what was so cool was watching the musicians come in.

[00:40:57] And play with other musicians that they normally don't play with, you know what I mean?

[00:41:03] You guys would get up there and somebody be up, you know, you might start out with best kept soul but body in you might have like three or four pieces from other bands joined in with you guys playing different, you know, playing instruments whatever.

[00:41:18] I remember the first time we were told Joe seals.

[00:41:21] Joe's a seals got up to play drum and he said, you know the drum set is backwards right?

[00:41:28] He turned all of a sudden he started changing everything around and then he said okay I'm ready to play now.

[00:41:35] You know so I never get that.

[00:41:37] He's always saying you guys will be in the center.

[00:41:39] Yeah you know he's unique, you know he goes that everything up so you know but that's that's something that we don't have anymore.

[00:41:46] But for you guys to stay as relevant as you have, I mean, you know you guys are bigger than ever right now.

[00:41:54] Which you did the soul train cruise right?

[00:41:57] Yeah that was pretty cool.

[00:41:58] How did that go tell us about that?

[00:42:00] It was funny I got to cool that next to the problem next time.

[00:42:04] In the bio.

[00:42:07] That was probably one of the more hip experiences I've had.

[00:42:12] If you want like year round bands like War, Average of White, then Rose Roy's, Rick, I grew up on it.

[00:42:18] You know like he was like yeah so funny thing about that is we didn't play into like the third day of the trip.

[00:42:26] So you had kind of had really young, straight a's in before you bleed?

[00:42:30] Yeah because they had like certain days they were signed.

[00:42:33] So we played, once we played we played like four days straight.

[00:42:38] So the Monday to the Tuesday Thursday right?

[00:42:40] So but the first couple days we kind of sat a Saturday and Sunday you know we got it had a chance today.

[00:42:44] But so it was like you know you kind of like we're going out.

[00:42:47] You know you ready to go into the game you ready to go into the fight you like you ready to go.

[00:42:50] But we had to kind of sit there waiting our turn and we find that but what we did you know we did our thing.

[00:42:54] But in the meantime I have a chance to like I said see some of these great bands and everything that I grew up on.

[00:43:00] Stephanie Mills you know there was like I mean tell it to Laura me and I think a lot of the bands were like and let them off but no.

[00:43:08] Well they just didn't have like the right pieces or enough of the original pieces to kind of like bring you to that field.

[00:43:18] So now that's when you talking about like you know what the hear song you know be like well as that's you know very here you know we're going to cover some.

[00:43:25] You know we're you know none of these songs are as we just don't are taking this that's my word cover band we cover the songs but you know when you hear.

[00:43:32] I want to say it to go band but you know you don't want to hear the singer singing like he's singing you know something from today and riffing all over the place.

[00:43:40] So like they want to get a song you know but no overall was a great experience and we got great feedback.

[00:43:46] They invited us back to next year so I guess we did okay.

[00:43:49] And you know I mean it was always music you know I mean it was like from like about 10 o'clock and so you know a night you know you always have like some band playing.

[00:43:58] Whether it be a big band or whether it be like one of the name bands or whatever you know like one of the side acts like us or whatever.

[00:44:04] It was always something going on you know the people obviously the people were there to party so it's like sometimes we have events where you know you kind of had to get people warmed up and get people going.

[00:44:16] Not these people can be they knew they want to have be around put your music and bands live bands so they were ready to go from junk you know I mean so it didn't you know it was like you just had like a nice well.

[00:44:27] Or receive an audience that was just ready to kind of you know enjoy having good time and you know just being around positive people there and no drama you know of course people you know some people kind of drank a little bit too much but you know outside of that man it was just a really great experience you know had like I said Sam that chance to see some of these groups that you know you know you know you just have to say.

[00:44:45] Groups that you know I probably would have had a chance to otherwise it's the city goes you know.

[00:44:51] Like Rose Roy's like you know I know they two were here in there but you know I have a chance to see them all on one one venue one location or anything pretty cool.

[00:45:02] Well yeah that's awesome man I can only imagine up you know don't you know especially being musician all your life and then get the hangout like that with other musicians that you idolize.

[00:45:14] You know listen to their music you know hey I have your record yeah I had your record.

[00:45:19] You know so you know and one thing about us being here too because like I said a lot of stuff is with the older and like I said we are fours probably like 90s so we did have much show we did like a

[00:45:33] group of people and I forgot so we played like no some nearly cold you know like artists who passed but I think people like that we were a little slight change of pace because it wasn't necessarily just the old stuff we were some of you know we did a hip hop day you know me so like people were tripping off of that.

[00:45:51] You know we're doing a hip hop there was no hip hop artist when they had so we were going you know hip hop and then doing this rap and everything and that's also cool about us is that we had that versatility they kind of like you know they can sing their butts off.

[00:46:02] But then they can also you know go ahead and do some little chem and some Jay Z.

[00:46:07] Right right so we got a nice I mean will we I guess as our name states best kept so we we cover the range of soul you know whether it be you know old school to you know 90s to hip hop you know I mean we you know what we have the

[00:46:22] catalog of music to choose from them you obviously it's not our song but we can cover those songs so they kind of take people to different spaces at different times you know the soul music.

[00:46:34] Yeah all right well I'm a but that leaves me in spotless question and which would be this with everything being said and with every you know because I know you guys are planning a you know I heard you guys are planning a reunion

[00:46:51] of that's kept so yeah right well it's definitely going to be a 15 year anniversary you know it's going to be anybody that's listening trust me you know about you know here about it but yeah make sure everybody that's been part of the band or seen the band have opportunity we're trying to work on a couple different

[00:47:10] large venues right now that we can kind of get that in so that'll be a november but yeah that's definitely going to be something that's going to be something that's going to be going for you.

[00:47:17] Yeah yeah that's yeah that should be awesome. I saw that so there's only one thing left to do right now is right a original album band you all thinking about doing something like that?

[00:47:32] Yeah we were we were the prosciutto we had this in some covers of this original challenge there is that you guys six individuals was six different lives going on we're already together every weekend

[00:47:46] every weekend I mean literally every weekend everybody can do whatever we're doing gigs and you know so trying to schedule that different everybody kind of has different feel different vibes and everything like that.

[00:48:00] That's my ultimate thing to be able to do whether be with best kept sore otherwise I'm working with somebody right now that I'm doing some original stuff on the side and everything like that because as I mentioned in the beginning like my entry or my

[00:48:14] journey into music heavily was you know through wanting to do songs that you know again you know make people feel a certain way and make people respond and react to certain way and everything like that.

[00:48:27] So obviously we get a chance to do it with the best kept sore by covering them but I you know I ultimately want to be able to have my own voice or own voice to express you know our musical thoughts ideas and talent to know me from like that.

[00:48:41] You know we'll keep forging ahead and see if we find it opportunity to do it and desire and get everybody going the same direction.

[00:48:49] So hopefully that will be coming down some at some point but like I say nothing else you know we're always bringing guys something new whether the covers or whether the originals but we're always going to try to bring some different than with other groups of going so.

[00:49:10] Yeah awesome things that all happen some point.

[00:49:13] Well definitely be looking for something like that I know you know one thing I can say about the band you know after work with you guys and whatever the case.

[00:49:24] You know just being a and being a fan I mean I've always been a fan of the group so you know so whenever I get a chance to catch you guys I definitely want to catch you guys and you know because I appreciate I appreciate the music

[00:49:38] and I you know definitely you guys have been doing your things for a very long time and definitely represent this area very well.

[00:49:46] So my hat's off to you and the band and everything that you guys have been doing and to figure in better things for you guys so we'll see what happens as we move forward.

[00:49:58] Yeah well women's and our you know women's and our you know on our web we do nobody keep it in no us know that we're from woman's and yes that's right yeah.

[00:50:08] We went out to you know to the soul train food you know definitely everybody know that you know they're women's and it was cool I mean it's good to be able to go out and represent let people know that you know because we're so close to Philly and it was so easy to fill it up your artist and musicians on the virtual artists call to be a say

[00:50:25] we're you know we're down a real world so we got some stuff going on and we got a lot of love and we got a lot of love to give feedback and respect from the guys and filling everything like that.

[00:50:35] Well you know it's funny that you said that because you know Delaware is pretty hot with artists right now you know.

[00:50:41] Oh yeah I've seen name because I'm big name not good about there right now so you know so all of a sudden this has become you know become a pretty cool place to be from when it comes to the music and artists feel you know.

[00:50:54] So that's good and especially with you guys out there being one of the people leading the charge is that definitely makes for makes for all their greatest pose or that Delaware gets a tour of some musicians go.

[00:51:12] Yeah they get it ahead well why don't you take a moment to go here and tell us what you guys got going on or coming up real soon and I know you do not only are you working with best kept soul but I know you have your other stuff that you do as well so.

[00:51:28] You know so why don't you tell us about anything you guys coming up.

[00:51:33] Oh man I'll try to reset some things at the top but we this particular week will be on Saturday and a place called Brewer down the Southbury.

[00:51:41] I know it was a long trip for anybody that might be up in the room in the area but if you have a good chance to do like get it in that way.

[00:51:48] The first Fridays will be at a place called the reef up in North Washington.

[00:51:54] I think Tim's going to be coming here to Southbury this birthday so it might be kind of late to get seats because they used to reserve seats.

[00:52:01] Yeah they felt like real quick up there man yeah.

[00:52:04] But every first Friday we're using the reef we're going to be down in the Queens town for a wee festival later in the month.

[00:52:15] So if you guys follow us on social media like we hope you do or on email us we'll kind of be letting you guys know.

[00:52:27] There's a lot of things we're going to be in.

[00:52:30] Sure that would be packed I'm sure.

[00:52:32] Oh yeah.

[00:52:33] We got a lot of responses and people asking about tickets about that already.

[00:52:37] We're going to be at Wilson's later in April as well.

[00:52:43] If you guys haven't been in weather like us or just live music in general,

[00:52:47] Bolson's an over-hine now that the Jersey is a really cool spot to.

[00:52:52] They're being very well spread their black well.

[00:52:55] Which I'm saying right he's in charge now of the talent so you'll see like you know he's actually being a good number of artists from our area too.

[00:53:05] So the best thing obviously is just to kind of visit our website that we got best kept soul.

[00:53:10] Or just even more so on social media if you are always posted for hours and I'm going to be like that so you can find us on Facebook under best kept soul.

[00:53:19] Or on Instagram excuse me best kept soul band or Instagram as well.

[00:53:25] And yeah, so we're not trying to hide obviously you know we've been doing a pretty good job of not hiding in the years.

[00:53:32] We usually know better where we're going to be at is sometimes we do.

[00:53:37] You know, that's just such like.

[00:53:42] That's the marketing that's the marketing for.

[00:53:45] I'll do it. I'll tell you what man that that's probably one of the bigger things too is just like to support the people that like you know that they know what we don't come out and support you over.

[00:53:55] I have people that tell me like you know we come to all your shoes.

[00:53:59] We're starting to know if you can come over and over again, we're welcome everybody every time.

[00:54:05] You try to keep it fresh each time is like you know nobody is ever not welcome or never seen too much band.

[00:54:12] It's just like best best part of the band.

[00:54:14] It's not just you know the musicians the band will be do.

[00:54:17] Right.

[00:54:18] People around we're around people that are no drama we never have drama or art events.

[00:54:23] Everybody you know because we have a crowd tends to be a little bit older and everything like that.

[00:54:28] So nobody's got time for that.

[00:54:29] People are finished their work days and everything in work weeks and they come out to have a good time.

[00:54:34] Good food, good music and just enjoy themselves.

[00:54:38] So there's a bigger part of why we've been able to do what we have as well as well as us just playing every week.

[00:54:49] Well that's great.

[00:54:50] That's great and believe me I know everybody appreciates the band and you know that's why you always guys always have the great following that you do so that's cool.

[00:55:01] That's cool.

[00:55:02] All right guys there you have it you know that's a villain right there you know for people that know who he is for real that's the villain right now.

[00:55:13] Yeah.

[00:55:14] Somebody said you're a villain.

[00:55:15] But we're going to go ahead and get into the few topics that we have with the show tonight we're going to keep limon on and get his input as well.

[00:55:26] So and see what we can talk about tonight so we're going to start with this particular story says this has been the big story over the last 24 to 48 hours.

[00:55:39] So we're going to start with this particular story.

[00:55:41] I'm going to read a little bit of it is FBI rage diddy's residents in Los Angeles and Miami amidst sex trafficking probe for anybody as I heard about what's going on with Diddy you must be under a rock so we'll go from here.

[00:55:57] Federal agents have rated the homes of so on Diddy combs in Los Angeles and his residence in Miami as part of ongoing sex trafficking investigation.

[00:56:07] Earlier today Homeland Security executed law enforcement actions as part of an ongoing investigation with assistance from Homeland Security and Los Angeles and in Miami and other local law enforcement partners.

[00:56:25] In a statement from CBS news report that says we will provide further information as it becomes available.

[00:56:35] Fox posted a video showing Diddy's son Justin and King combs in handcuffs near the property.

[00:56:42] In recent months did he has been linked to multiple sex trafficking allegations through women level accusations of sexual abuse against the music on mongo.

[00:56:53] As a week following Diddy settled a $30 million loss it was with Cassie in November last year and December 2023 another woman accused combs and two other mills of gang rape when she was 17 years old in 2003.

[00:57:11] Mill music producer followed lawsuit last month alleging that combs sexually assaulted him.

[00:57:19] You know then they said back in November cons spoke out about the numerous legal complaints filed against him for allegedly abuse and women enough is enough for the last couple of weeks I sat silently and watched people try to assassinate my character.

[00:57:34] That sounds like somebody else you remember who that sound like or Kelly remember where are telling you did the interview.

[00:57:42] I played him for my life.

[00:57:47] Destroyed my reputation in my legacy is this grand post read sickening out allegations have been made against me by individuals looking for quick payday.

[00:57:57] Let me be absolutely clear I did not do any of the awful things being alleged I will fight for my name my family and for the truth.

[00:58:10] Now we've been hearing about Diddy for a few months now and of course other names come up you know people at distance themselves from him he's lost a lot of his endorsement deals he had to.

[00:58:26] You know kind of walk away from revolt couple other things to rock and all of that stuff what do you guys feel about what's going on with him.

[00:58:38] So I mean my my quick responses and Dave I think we talked about some prior show too.

[00:58:44] Look at all the people coming to diddy's defense.

[00:58:47] So I mean that's the one thing makes it I mean I can lie I have always been a big diddy fan but I mean you know nobody nobody out not even his sons you know his sons have even like kept quiet.

[00:59:08] But I mean nobody's coming to his defense so I presume he's guilty of everything they say you did.

[00:59:15] Yeah I mean that's like that thing that says you know to shave this smoke is fire so it seems to be quite a bit of a smoke coming his way.

[00:59:28] And it's so funny I was just talking to somebody about this because like you said our Kelly and it's so funny because like as a musician or like you know people who shoot songs like I started wondering like are we going to stay with diddy songs like you do have a lot of things.

[00:59:44] I found that we had to give it a hard kill he saw because now for a while you're trying not to but a couple times we played and people would just like not fill in I mean it was just so much you know built up there that you know people who kind of you know kind of turned off to their vibe so I don't know if that's going to come down for him too.

[01:00:04] So I feel bad because like you know it's like a whole you know like you know I'm I'm living with Santa me. I'm a fan of him he's got great music or days are with and you hate to see that it takes away from you know all this other stuff for me I think people just get sort of power.

[01:00:20] Just kind of lose their mind a little bit and sound like that's what he did.

[01:00:25] Yeah it's it's kind of crazy these days because it's easy to get canceled real quick.

[01:00:30] I mean you know you know especially you know we had to meet you move in a few years ago you know all the other guys you know cause be got caught up in some mess again and even Jamie Foxx was accused of something you know so there were a lot of people.

[01:00:53] Getting caught up in these things I was just telling Leonard even though you didn't believe me Friday speaking of woman and all the stuff that's going on Friday me and Tim was together and I don't know if you told the post that we were eating in the restaurant and we're sitting there and Kevin Spacey is sitting right across from the whole time.

[01:01:13] You know and we when we finally realized who he was you know I mean it was real personal pictures with people me and Tim didn't want to take a picture with him because or he was one of these guys that caught up in that stuff too.

[01:01:29] Yeah you know so but it's the fact that he sitting there in this diner is sitting there in cognitus.

[01:01:38] You know we didn't know if the one of the girls who was sitting in the restaurant hadn't noticed who he was.

[01:01:45] We could have walked out and we would never know what it was but he was in the restaurant you know so but you know and I'm sure he probably would have preferred that people had to know who he was because everything that he gone through over the last couple of years you know so.

[01:02:03] But you know this city things going to be big because it's probably going to expose and it has kind of already shown some big names around you are ready you know but it's probably going to expose some other people as things go down because I'm sure if did he.

[01:02:22] You know ends up getting any time or anything he he he ain't going to go down without seeing you know I'm saying he ain't going to go there without saying so and you know you think about his history with these artist that he had and how none of those artists is stepping up for him.

[01:02:41] Yeah yeah they're all distance themselves from him it must be a reason for so.

[01:02:48] Did he.

[01:02:51] Did he.

[01:02:52] Did he.

[01:02:53] No.

[01:02:54] That's the villain there people that's the villain okay.

[01:03:02] But but I'm sure that we'll be following this story closely especially since the raid just happened and I saw the day that the sons were leaving the Los Angeles home they I guess they said we can deal with this well they they they left the

[01:03:16] home so but we'll see what happens as far as that story is concerned all right we'll be following up on it alright Leonard I think you.

[01:03:25] Got the next story yeah so the next story is this something happened last weekend.

[01:03:31] You know Dave and Lamont you know it's another apologize apology to the black people.

[01:03:39] So there was a Democratic lawmaker who used the racial slur during the house hearing and of course he claimed I misspoke so this is right next door to us.

[01:03:54] Democratic lawmaker and Maryland says he misspoke when using a racial slur during how budget committee hearing Maryland rep David Trone who running for Senate.

[01:04:04] Other the slur while discussing tax policy with Shalanda young the first black woman to serve as the director of office of budget and management.

[01:04:15] So he said I didn't like the way that went with you said her name right right right right right.

[01:04:23] Yep so his exact words were.

[01:04:30] So this Republican jigger boo that you know right jigger boo now he was I don't believe he was talking to her because she she's a Democrats but he said so this Republican jigger boo that you know it's a tax rate that stop business investments and

[01:04:52] completely faulty by people who never run a business.

[01:04:57] So of course after it came out he issued apology apology he said that he meant to use the word bug a boo but he was right but he accidentally used the word jigger boo so this is what his apology said and and

[01:05:18] that they let me know if you would accept his apology.

[01:05:22] So he said today while tempting to use the word bug a boo in a hearing I misspoke and mistakenly use a phrase that is offensive upon learning the meaning of the word so is he saying he didn't know what it meant when he used.

[01:05:38] I'm learning the meaning of the word I will deeply disappointment to have accidentally used it and our apologizes.

[01:05:46] And then he also said it should never be used anytime anywhere any conversation I recognize that as a white man I have I have privilege and as an elected official either

[01:05:59] responsibility for the words I used especially in the heat of the moment regardless of what I meant to say that language should never been used.

[01:06:09] What would y'all forgive on that speech was rich.

[01:06:15] What would they date date with which jigger boo wrote it for me.

[01:06:23] Wow.

[01:06:29] I'm just like.

[01:06:33] This bug a boo that sounds like a kitty term.

[01:06:39] He probably don't know what the meaning of that is.

[01:06:43] I mean, I have doesn't say all these.

[01:06:49] So the thing is that he better be younger than 40 because that's all the way.

[01:06:55] No, he's not.

[01:06:59] He looked like he knew what jigger boo was exactly whatever.

[01:07:05] That was not no slip of the tongue.

[01:07:09] That was what came out with what he wanted to say right.