[00:00:00] Liquor Talk, a brand new episode starts right now.
[00:00:04] Welcome on, welcome everybody to another edition
[00:00:06] of the Liquor Talk podcast.
[00:00:08] Happy Mother's Day ladies and gentlemen.
[00:00:11] And this is the Mother's Day,
[00:00:12] a special Mother's Day edition.
[00:00:14] So if you're listening to this,
[00:00:15] this is Mother's Day,
[00:00:17] so happy Mother's Day to all the mothers out there.
[00:00:19] Ladies and gentlemen,
[00:00:20] I had to bring back a former guest,
[00:00:23] someone that the last time they came on,
[00:00:25] we were in a damn pandemic.
[00:00:26] You first heard her on episode 92 of Liquor Talk.
[00:00:30] So it's been a very long time,
[00:00:33] but podcasts out of Arizona is Kiana
[00:00:38] from the Dark Sugar podcast.
[00:00:40] How have you been Kiana?
[00:00:41] Hello, I've been good,
[00:00:44] just slowly creeping back into the podcast scene.
[00:00:47] So I'm really happy to be on with you
[00:00:51] because I haven't been a guest in a really long time.
[00:00:54] So it feels good, it's been good.
[00:00:56] Yeah, it feels good to have you on.
[00:00:57] It's also fun to bring back someone
[00:01:00] that's been a long time.
[00:01:02] Well, sorry for the wait, you know what I'm saying?
[00:01:05] No, no, I was on hiatus.
[00:01:09] I had a hiatus for a minute.
[00:01:11] No, it was just like,
[00:01:12] you know, I think that a lot of people
[00:01:15] in their late 20s have that moment
[00:01:17] of just a total switch, different friends,
[00:01:20] different job, different everything.
[00:01:22] And I feel like that's what I've been going through
[00:01:24] since the pandemic.
[00:01:26] And it's just like a natural coming of age thing,
[00:01:29] but I feel like it's finally evened out
[00:01:33] and things are a lot more level.
[00:01:35] I know I've been telling my listeners about it a lot
[00:01:38] and I'm very candid about it,
[00:01:39] but no, it's been good.
[00:01:41] Yeah.
[00:01:42] How have you?
[00:01:44] It's been like a damn roller coaster,
[00:01:47] but I can somewhat see the light at the end
[00:01:50] of the tunnel where things are gonna even out
[00:01:53] and we're gonna come full circle.
[00:01:55] So it's like, I mean, I go live to you.
[00:01:59] I flirted with moving to Arizona,
[00:02:01] but then my friend that I was gonna,
[00:02:03] wanted me to move out there,
[00:02:04] they ended up moving to Texas.
[00:02:05] So.
[00:02:06] Rightfully so, I see that.
[00:02:08] I see that.
[00:02:09] I'm a lot of a deeper.
[00:02:12] I'm still holding it down in Florida,
[00:02:14] you know what I'm saying?
[00:02:16] I appreciate you rock with me,
[00:02:18] even though there's a big time difference, you know, so.
[00:02:21] Oh no, this is my,
[00:02:22] I'm a night owl, so this works.
[00:02:24] Yeah, I did a grand show with the night owl myself,
[00:02:27] so, but a lot has happened since episode 92
[00:02:31] of Look and Talk, which we were still,
[00:02:33] I think we were still in the pandemic at that time.
[00:02:36] Yeah, no, we definitely were,
[00:02:38] which is just, I'm a teacher right now
[00:02:41] and I've been, students have been admitting to me
[00:02:44] how much they've missed out during that time.
[00:02:47] And I can, I mean, I'm their teacher,
[00:02:48] so I can clearly see it.
[00:02:49] Like, wow, y'all really?
[00:02:50] Like, you were at home, you were not on the computer.
[00:02:54] You know, it was just a crazy, really crazy time.
[00:02:59] Yeah, it was definitely a crazy time.
[00:03:01] Shout out to you for being a teacher,
[00:03:02] you know what I'm saying?
[00:03:03] Cause I look at the TikToks
[00:03:05] and I see the complaints of teachers
[00:03:08] and also I see how hard y'all fought
[00:03:10] to get decent living wages, you know, cause.
[00:03:14] Oh yeah, yeah.
[00:03:16] And I just, it's one of those jobs
[00:03:20] or it's one of those jobs and one of those things
[00:03:22] where you just have no idea unless you're doing it.
[00:03:27] Cause I remember during that time,
[00:03:29] a lot of people were like,
[00:03:31] why are you fighting for better pay?
[00:03:33] Like you, like they thought we got paid
[00:03:38] from our school when we, it was just like really weird.
[00:03:42] Like they think we get paid over the summer
[00:03:44] during that part of the pandemic
[00:03:46] where nothing was going on.
[00:03:47] People were thinking that we were getting paid
[00:03:50] and it was just really,
[00:03:52] people have weird misconceptions about teachers.
[00:03:54] And I'm like, I don't think y'all understand
[00:03:56] like how hard this job is,
[00:03:58] especially when I'm like half-assed
[00:04:00] like raising your child.
[00:04:02] Like they don't, you know,
[00:04:04] it's just one of those things.
[00:04:06] Yeah, y'all are like whole ass raising children
[00:04:09] and stuff and it's like,
[00:04:10] I didn't realize sometimes I'd be watching the show
[00:04:12] at Abbott Elementary, you know what I'm saying?
[00:04:14] I'd be seeing like, I'm watching them like,
[00:04:17] I can't imagine what teachers go through like,
[00:04:19] God damn, I see it on the sitcom,
[00:04:21] like how it even works in real life.
[00:04:24] It's that like times 10 and every teacher,
[00:04:27] if you talk to any teacher, they'll tell you like,
[00:04:29] oh, we need to have a documentary.
[00:04:31] Like we need to have camera,
[00:04:33] cause you want, you need like that fourth wall camera
[00:04:35] sometimes to just look at and go like,
[00:04:37] what the fuck?
[00:04:37] Like did anybody, like, did you just see that?
[00:04:40] Like, did you just hear that?
[00:04:41] Like teaching's wild, yo, kids are crazy.
[00:04:47] They're the future and everything, but yeah,
[00:04:52] teachers need to get paid way more,
[00:04:53] a hundred K I think at least to be honest.
[00:04:57] Yeah, y'all need a hundred K more.
[00:04:59] Y'all need that cause these bad ass kids,
[00:05:03] it's like, and also parents got to experience that
[00:05:05] during the damn pandemic or they were like,
[00:05:07] oh my goodness.
[00:05:09] And then I realized a lot of parents are dumb as fuck.
[00:05:12] They're always sitting there trying to help the kids
[00:05:14] with the homework and they can't even do it
[00:05:16] cause they can't figure out themselves.
[00:05:18] Well, that's true.
[00:05:19] And that just speaks to the education system
[00:05:21] in our country.
[00:05:22] It's terrible, terrible.
[00:05:26] Like literally the way we do math changes every year,
[00:05:30] every two years.
[00:05:31] So when people are like, oh, this is that new math,
[00:05:34] like what the, they're not lying.
[00:05:36] Like these people literally pull out their ass
[00:05:39] new ways to do math every so often.
[00:05:44] And it's, sometimes it is better
[00:05:47] and maybe it is more effective,
[00:05:48] but it's like we're still changing it
[00:05:50] every two grade periods.
[00:05:52] You know?
[00:05:53] So hopefully we'll see.
[00:05:55] I think there's things in the works
[00:05:57] for us to get paid more.
[00:05:58] So.
[00:05:59] Yeah, well hopefully, I hope teachers get paid more
[00:06:03] cause y'all definitely deserve it.
[00:06:05] You know what I'm saying?
[00:06:06] Definitely, definitely deserve it.
[00:06:07] Now today is, like I said, it is Mother's Day.
[00:06:11] So is there something you want to say to your mom
[00:06:14] if she's listening to this podcast?
[00:06:16] Oh my God.
[00:06:21] I think I would like to say to my mom
[00:06:24] that I finally have been able to see her
[00:06:30] for the first time.
[00:06:32] And I've been able to see all parts of her,
[00:06:37] which I think is really a privilege
[00:06:40] to be able to do, like as her daughter.
[00:06:42] I've seen the inner her, the inner child.
[00:06:46] I've seen my mom's shadow.
[00:06:48] I've seen like her inner teenager.
[00:06:52] I've seen, I've just,
[00:06:53] I've seen the vulnerable traumatized parts of her
[00:06:57] and I've come to really accept and know her.
[00:07:01] And I would like my mom to know that I respect her
[00:07:06] and love who she is, like as a person,
[00:07:09] which we had a really, my mom and I like,
[00:07:13] we had a really rocky start, mom.
[00:07:15] Like there was a minute where I was like,
[00:07:18] are we gonna have a relationship?
[00:07:20] A mother daughter one?
[00:07:22] And so I think we've come a really full circle.
[00:07:24] And so I feel like to be able to really
[00:07:26] respect your parent as a person,
[00:07:28] not just as your parent,
[00:07:30] but I finally respect my mom as a person.
[00:07:34] So I just would love to, you know,
[00:07:36] tell my mom I love you and I respect you.
[00:07:39] All of you.
[00:07:41] That's special, I definitely feel that.
[00:07:45] My mom who's, I know she's the avid listener
[00:07:47] of Look or Talk.
[00:07:48] I know she's been very supportive, you know,
[00:07:51] so I know that whenever she catches,
[00:07:53] she does listen to me and stuff.
[00:07:56] Mom, I'm grateful for you, you know what I'm saying?
[00:07:59] You have, you taught me that women can be accountable
[00:08:03] because when she admitted that she fucked up
[00:08:06] in her first marriage, she admitted that to me.
[00:08:08] And I'm like, you know what?
[00:08:11] It takes a strong minded women to admit when she's wrong
[00:08:15] because not a lot of women today
[00:08:17] know how to admit when they're wrong.
[00:08:19] And you know what, mom,
[00:08:20] you have certainly made up for the childhood
[00:08:22] because you've been that rock I've needed
[00:08:26] for encouragement or for anything.
[00:08:28] I'm grateful for you, you know what I'm saying?
[00:08:30] And I want you to know on this Mother's Day
[00:08:32] that I don't give a damn if it's Mother's Day
[00:08:34] or any other day,
[00:08:35] I'm always grateful and appreciative of you.
[00:08:38] And I wish people would stop just showing love
[00:08:41] to their parents on Mother's Day or just Father's Day.
[00:08:46] Yeah, yeah, it's become such like a holiday type of thing.
[00:08:54] And yeah, relationships with parents and mothers
[00:09:01] can be really complicated,
[00:09:03] but I feel like as a society and culture,
[00:09:06] we're becoming more empathetic with each other.
[00:09:10] Cause I know for a while,
[00:09:12] especially with that older generation like our parents,
[00:09:16] I know for my mom, she kind of saw her parents
[00:09:18] not as robots, but they were kind of like entities.
[00:09:23] It was hard to see them as like people
[00:09:25] because one, they didn't have the space
[00:09:28] to be vulnerable in that way.
[00:09:31] And probably a whole lot of other traumas,
[00:09:33] but I think we're finally like really opening up
[00:09:36] to the humanness of our parents,
[00:09:39] which is just, it's so important.
[00:09:43] It is.
[00:09:44] And also speaking on the humanness,
[00:09:46] I gotta say to us millennials and everybody else,
[00:09:50] it's okay to give your parents inspiration
[00:09:51] or something,
[00:09:52] but you ain't gotta beat them up
[00:09:54] for every little thing that went on in your childhood
[00:09:57] that you feel like changed the trajectory of your life.
[00:10:00] You know, at some point you just gotta give them grace
[00:10:04] and take accountability for younger you
[00:10:06] not knowing how to change or not let your parent affect you.
[00:10:11] You know what I'm saying?
[00:10:12] Cause we gotta realize parents got grow up too
[00:10:15] and it's like, you know what I'm saying?
[00:10:17] I hit my certain age with no kids
[00:10:18] and I think about all the things that I've done
[00:10:20] with them, like ain't no way in the world
[00:10:23] I'd be able to have a kid.
[00:10:25] And it's like, I know you're a teacher.
[00:10:27] I'm like, I don't know how you would feel about,
[00:10:29] I don't know if you have kids or not,
[00:10:30] but I don't know how you would feel
[00:10:32] and being a teacher by having a kid.
[00:10:36] So wait, you have kids or no?
[00:10:38] No, I ain't got no kids.
[00:10:39] Oh, okay, okay.
[00:10:40] So yeah, I just, how do you?
[00:10:43] Sorry, I'm being so nosy.
[00:10:44] You're good.
[00:10:45] I'm 33, about to be 34 in December.
[00:10:48] Okay.
[00:10:49] And so, yeah, like so, cause I'm 29
[00:10:52] and so like now is the time
[00:10:54] when you know you're getting that question asked
[00:10:56] or even a couple of years ago
[00:10:57] I was getting the question asked a lot
[00:10:58] and my kids will ask me if I wanna have kids
[00:11:00] and it's hard, especially when you throw mental health
[00:11:08] and mental illness
[00:11:08] and a whole bunch of other things in the mix
[00:11:11] for the longest time I was just like,
[00:11:13] I don't really think so.
[00:11:16] I'm more open now
[00:11:17] but I'm definitely seeing that having a stable partner
[00:11:22] but also my life is really important.
[00:11:25] Cause of course the kid
[00:11:26] is just gonna shake shit up regardless.
[00:11:28] But yeah, it's a hard job.
[00:11:32] And then going back to what you just said about forgiveness
[00:11:35] I'm also, I'm like you.
[00:11:37] I'm also seeing that that's like a lot of the missing
[00:11:40] things and on both sides of my family
[00:11:44] they're at these weird like pivotal parallels
[00:11:47] where there's so much trauma coming up
[00:11:50] and a lot of the older siblings are looking
[00:11:52] to the parents who are very old to like atone them.
[00:11:58] And I'm like, I don't think you're gonna get
[00:12:04] Medea or so-and-so or Lovey to like admit
[00:12:08] that they fucked you up.
[00:12:09] Like maybe you're not gonna get that.
[00:12:11] And I think that's hard.
[00:12:15] That's definitely hard.
[00:12:16] You know what I'm saying?
[00:12:17] That's definitely hard to
[00:12:18] and it's just looks like some things
[00:12:20] you just gotta take the L
[00:12:22] and just keep it moving.
[00:12:23] You know what I'm saying?
[00:12:24] Cause especially a generation past our parents
[00:12:26] cause they don't, they didn't, they said they ways.
[00:12:30] They don't understand taking accountability and stuff.
[00:12:34] Yeah.
[00:12:34] And then see, and then this is another thing
[00:12:36] and I'm gonna be vague without like naming
[00:12:40] calling people out, but just in general situations
[00:12:43] like cause I think this is a general situation
[00:12:44] on black families where it's like, okay, let's say
[00:12:48] and we've seen this.
[00:12:49] This has been in Tyler Perry movies.
[00:12:50] I'm sure I can't remember which one,
[00:12:52] but it's like where, okay
[00:12:54] the mom was in an abusive relationship.
[00:12:55] She had a daughter.
[00:12:57] The man assaulted the daughter
[00:12:59] and the daughter grew up with this animosity
[00:13:02] towards the mother when the mother was actually being abused
[00:13:04] and maybe like sexually assaulted herself
[00:13:07] and they're not able to empathize with each other
[00:13:12] because the daughter has this anger
[00:13:13] which I understand towards the mom
[00:13:15] but then the mom also has her own anger
[00:13:17] and they're not able to see each other.
[00:13:19] And I've seen that situation varied
[00:13:23] or differentiated or whatever in so many different ways.
[00:13:27] And a lot of the times,
[00:13:30] cause it's like my grandma was 14 when she was married.
[00:13:34] That's an eighth grader.
[00:13:36] That's my student.
[00:13:39] That's my student.
[00:13:42] Damn, times are really different.
[00:13:44] 14 and you were married?
[00:13:46] And that was, if anything, she was kind of old
[00:13:50] and that was normal.
[00:13:52] So that's one of my eighth graders
[00:13:54] being married right now, being thrown into a house,
[00:13:59] going, okay, clean husband, wife, mother shit,
[00:14:03] do all that.
[00:14:05] And when her mom was maybe that age or younger
[00:14:11] when she was a sharecropper or whatever the hell
[00:14:15] and she was supposed to teach my grandma
[00:14:18] how to be a mom and a wife and whatever.
[00:14:21] Yeah.
[00:14:26] I just feel like you just said it,
[00:14:28] forgiveness, letting it go,
[00:14:30] not putting your whole healing on your parent.
[00:14:36] That's what I see.
[00:14:36] I'm like, man, you're putting your whole healing
[00:14:38] on your parents.
[00:14:40] Yeah and also you put your whole hand on your parent
[00:14:42] and you don't know what your parent is going through.
[00:14:45] You don't know if they could,
[00:14:46] the mental capacity to be like, okay, I get it.
[00:14:49] You know what I'm saying?
[00:14:50] It's just, and I've had to tell myself that, look,
[00:14:53] I'm like, it happened.
[00:14:54] It just happened and you made it through it though.
[00:14:57] That's the main thing people don't realize
[00:14:58] is like, you're fucking here today.
[00:15:00] Like so what your parent did all this shit,
[00:15:03] you made it through it.
[00:15:05] Yeah and I think that, I think speaks to how powerful
[00:15:11] the mind and trauma is the fact that people get so,
[00:15:15] they're like literally stuck in the past,
[00:15:18] in that moment, in that whatever.
[00:15:20] But one thing that my therapist,
[00:15:24] a therapist has said to me was that,
[00:15:29] because I did talk therapy for a really long time,
[00:15:32] like blah, blah, blah, my mom did this,
[00:15:33] my dad did this, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[00:15:35] And then I was just like, oh my God,
[00:15:36] this isn't working.
[00:15:37] Like how many times am I gonna repeat this story?
[00:15:39] And she's like, okay, F the story.
[00:15:42] She's like, you need to tell me what you lost from this.
[00:15:47] Why do you keep, why do we keep talking about this?
[00:15:51] Something's missing from you, right?
[00:15:52] What is that?
[00:15:53] And to get that out and then get over it,
[00:15:56] because in any instance where it's like,
[00:16:00] oh I need my mom to atone me.
[00:16:01] I'm just like, what does she need to give you
[00:16:04] that's missing from you?
[00:16:06] What did she take?
[00:16:08] And usually when we can just get to that point,
[00:16:11] it becomes like a little more logical
[00:16:13] instead of just swirling in our emotions
[00:16:15] of this trauma and not knowing like where to direct it.
[00:16:20] Yeah, and it's just this like,
[00:16:23] we allow ourselves to swirl in our trauma
[00:16:26] and we allow years on our lives to pass by.
[00:16:30] I'm like, you know what?
[00:16:32] That's too much life to be out here living
[00:16:34] till you know what I'm saying, to dwell on the past.
[00:16:36] I'm like, all right, so they're like, look,
[00:16:38] it happened, it didn't kill you so it made you stronger.
[00:16:42] So we here, and you know what?
[00:16:46] In our generation, we getting older
[00:16:48] and that means our parents are still getting older
[00:16:50] so they may need us.
[00:16:52] So we can't be resentful towards them when they need us
[00:16:56] because that's gonna come back on you
[00:16:58] in some form of fashion.
[00:17:00] Yeah, true.
[00:17:01] I think it's just complicated
[00:17:04] and maybe individual to each person
[00:17:06] because, and here's the other thing.
[00:17:09] I've seen both sides.
[00:17:13] I've seen like amazing healing
[00:17:16] where that person or the parent, they can come together
[00:17:19] and they can have a really beautiful relationship.
[00:17:22] But then I've also, and I'm sure you have too,
[00:17:25] seen that flip side where it's like mother's day
[00:17:32] could be very traumatic because you had to block your mom
[00:17:36] or the mom had to block you
[00:17:38] or you had to block your dad
[00:17:39] or you're not talking to your parents
[00:17:41] or something like strenuous
[00:17:43] because I've seen mother-daughter specifically
[00:17:45] where they're both trying so hard
[00:17:48] to have the relationship
[00:17:51] but they need to let go for a minute
[00:17:55] so they can both, oh, I apologize.
[00:17:57] I don't know what this noise is from this computer
[00:18:00] but they need to just kind of like
[00:18:02] let each other go for a minute to come back together.
[00:18:07] And I think people need to know that that's okay too
[00:18:10] even though it's so hard and sad.
[00:18:16] That is okay.
[00:18:18] And another thing that,
[00:18:20] another thing I will say on mother's day
[00:18:22] because I do know someone that's going through this
[00:18:26] like to the moms that don't act like they just,
[00:18:29] they don't want their child to win,
[00:18:32] don't celebrate mother's day, you know what I'm saying?
[00:18:33] Because it's sad and I can hear it
[00:18:36] and someone, I can hear it when I talk to people
[00:18:39] and they tell me that they have a strange relationship
[00:18:41] with their mothers and I hear the shit
[00:18:43] that they put their mothers.
[00:18:44] So I'm like, you really carry this child
[00:18:47] for nine months for this?
[00:18:49] No, you don't get to celebrate mother's day.
[00:18:52] Okay, wait, you're saying if the mom?
[00:18:55] No, because there's some deadbeat mothers out there
[00:18:57] who put their child in fucked up situations.
[00:19:02] Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
[00:19:03] And it's like there's some deadbeat mothers out there
[00:19:06] and they still looking for their roses.
[00:19:07] Like, no, you don't get no damn flowers
[00:19:09] for mother's day
[00:19:10] because you put your child in fucked up situations
[00:19:14] and you done did everything you can
[00:19:15] to disown your child.
[00:19:16] You don't get to celebrate mother's day.
[00:19:18] Oh yeah, it's, and I've had friends where I've seen this
[00:19:25] with them and their moms and I'll just tell them,
[00:19:29] this is unnatural, I hope you know that.
[00:19:32] Like your mom acting this way, this is against nature
[00:19:35] and you see that in nature, like at the zoo,
[00:19:38] like conservation or whatever when, what is it?
[00:19:45] When the baby animal, when the mom rejects it,
[00:19:50] people freak out.
[00:19:51] It's like this big ass thing.
[00:19:53] Oh my God, and the mom doesn't want the baby.
[00:19:55] Oh my God, we need to foster.
[00:19:57] Oh my God, get a big plush animal for the, oh my God.
[00:20:00] Because like the animal could die.
[00:20:03] Right.
[00:20:04] And like for us, depending on the level of neglect
[00:20:10] but if it's an emotional, spiritual, mental thing
[00:20:15] that's mental suicide
[00:20:17] that you're inflicting on your child
[00:20:20] because you don't wanna attach in the
[00:20:23] or not you want to
[00:20:24] maybe you don't have the skills or whatever the fuck
[00:20:25] to attach in the appropriate way.
[00:20:28] And I've had to tell friends of mine,
[00:20:30] very close friends like, okay, this is not your fault.
[00:20:32] This is not natural.
[00:20:33] Your parents not being the way they're supposed to be.
[00:20:36] And I think we're not looking for perfect mothers
[00:20:40] or perfect parents,
[00:20:41] because that's usually the, well, I'm not perfect.
[00:20:43] You went, no, okay, no, we're not asking for that.
[00:20:45] But I think a lot of kids are asking for the truth
[00:20:48] and they're asking for honesty.
[00:20:51] Okay, instead of,
[00:20:54] you know, I think about, I think it was Kirk,
[00:20:56] was it Kirk Franklin story?
[00:20:57] I think it was thinking about,
[00:20:59] okay, the mom didn't know who the dad was.
[00:21:01] Okay, well, instead of being a bitch about it
[00:21:04] and like not talking to me,
[00:21:06] just admit you don't know
[00:21:08] and we can just connect there.
[00:21:10] Yeah, I saw that same story
[00:21:13] and I'm like that damn Kirk Franklin goes how old
[00:21:15] and he just met his dad?
[00:21:16] Like I would have respected the mom more.
[00:21:21] So if you would just said,
[00:21:22] I'm not sure who the dad was,
[00:21:24] but I feel like you were lying to him all these years.
[00:21:27] You were lying to him for what?
[00:21:29] No, I felt like that too.
[00:21:32] It just all didn't like really make any sense,
[00:21:34] but it's just like, we just want you to be honest.
[00:21:37] Just say, baby girl, I am so sorry
[00:21:42] for whatever that man did to you
[00:21:45] but he was doing the same thing to me
[00:21:47] or worse or this or that.
[00:21:49] Like just, you know, like just more honesty
[00:21:55] or like, hey, I did that to you.
[00:21:57] Man, I maybe can't even remember,
[00:22:00] but I'm sorry, I'm not perfect.
[00:22:02] This is what I was going through
[00:22:04] or wow, I validate that that's fucked up that I did.
[00:22:08] Like I think that's all that a lot of kids want.
[00:22:11] It is, it really is.
[00:22:13] And it's like, cause when my mom told me
[00:22:16] about some of the fucking things
[00:22:17] her first husband did to her
[00:22:18] and I'm like, and this motherfucker
[00:22:20] was doing it to me too.
[00:22:21] I'm like, damn, you were in this thing.
[00:22:23] I'm like, I can understand it,
[00:22:26] but I'm like, damn mom,
[00:22:27] is I wish you would have been stronger
[00:22:30] but then when she explained it more,
[00:22:31] I'm like, I see where you're coming from.
[00:22:34] You know what I'm saying?
[00:22:35] Cause you just never know like parents,
[00:22:36] if you just tell your kids what's going on,
[00:22:40] man, we'll understand it.
[00:22:42] Yeah and that's what,
[00:22:43] and I've noticed that even as a teacher,
[00:22:45] like I was really struggling.
[00:22:46] I felt really disconnected with my homeroom.
[00:22:49] I'm like really close with my homeroom
[00:22:51] and I was feeling really disconnected with them.
[00:22:53] And one day I was like, girl, just be honest.
[00:22:58] And one day I was like, okay,
[00:22:59] we're gonna have a little community meeting.
[00:23:00] I was like, real talk?
[00:23:02] Y'all have been getting on my last nerve.
[00:23:05] I'm so frustrated with you.
[00:23:07] I've been expecting more from you.
[00:23:11] I wanna buy you donuts and pizza and all this extra shit
[00:23:15] but y'all aren't giving me donut pizza energy.
[00:23:17] So what are we doing?
[00:23:20] Once I laid it out like that
[00:23:22] and they're like, oh, Ms. Blast is like this.
[00:23:25] The next day and from that point forward,
[00:23:30] I've been more honest with them
[00:23:30] and I feel a way better connection with my students.
[00:23:35] Literally like they'll get up, start walking
[00:23:38] and I'll look and I'll be like,
[00:23:39] Ms. I'm going to the bathroom.
[00:23:41] Oh, okay, thank you.
[00:23:43] All right, go to the bathroom.
[00:23:44] Okay, cool, bye.
[00:23:45] See you when you get back.
[00:23:45] I'm just like, oh, okay.
[00:23:46] Or I'm like, oh my God, the schedule.
[00:23:49] Ms. I got the schedule right here, here you go.
[00:23:50] And I'm like, oh, thanks y'all.
[00:23:53] Like it's just like we got a little
[00:23:56] or all I have to do is give them a look now
[00:23:57] and they're like, oh shit.
[00:24:00] And I'm like, yeah, because I was honest
[00:24:02] and they get me.
[00:24:04] Yes.
[00:24:05] For now when I even yell again,
[00:24:07] they know this time like bitch,
[00:24:08] you ain't playing like let's get it together
[00:24:10] because I was honest, even though it was weird.
[00:24:13] I don't want to admit to the kids I'm stressed
[00:24:15] or some days, Ms. you don't know what the schedule.
[00:24:18] Yeah, I'm sorry.
[00:24:19] I'm kind of discombobulating today
[00:24:20] and I don't know what's going on today.
[00:24:22] Sorry, I don't know the schedule.
[00:24:25] Yes.
[00:24:27] Like.
[00:24:28] Yes, do you know what I'm saying?
[00:24:30] Shout out to you for being honest
[00:24:31] because I'm like if I would have had
[00:24:33] a lot more honest teachers,
[00:24:36] man things would have been a whole lot different.
[00:24:38] I'm sorry, I might have been on the honor roll
[00:24:40] all I know, you know.
[00:24:42] Yeah, I think it, I definitely noticed that there
[00:24:45] cause I was trying to,
[00:24:46] this is what I tell teachers all the time.
[00:24:48] Don't do that fourth wall shit.
[00:24:51] Me teacher, you student.
[00:24:53] Don't do that.
[00:24:54] The kids can feel that.
[00:24:55] You're not on a stage when you're in the classroom.
[00:24:59] The kids can see you and feel you like they can touch you.
[00:25:03] Then some teachers, they get,
[00:25:05] okay, I'm a teacher now and what we're gonna,
[00:25:07] no, no, no.
[00:25:09] And that's when you get kids throwing pencils at you
[00:25:12] and they don't respect you
[00:25:14] and you don't know why they don't listen.
[00:25:15] It's the honesty that helps.
[00:25:18] That's what kids need.
[00:25:19] That's what any human needs is that vulnerability,
[00:25:22] honesty, authenticity.
[00:25:24] We thrive on that.
[00:25:26] And so we just expect that from parents.
[00:25:30] And I understand the trauma and the whys,
[00:25:34] but yeah, sometimes I'm just like grow up.
[00:25:40] We all have to grow up at some point.
[00:25:42] You know what I'm saying?
[00:25:43] We just gotta move on from our past.
[00:25:45] You know what I'm saying?
[00:25:46] And move on, just move it on.
[00:25:48] You made it through it.
[00:25:49] What don't kill you make you stronger.
[00:25:51] So in some way your life got stronger
[00:25:54] because you made through that certain situation.
[00:25:57] So we just gotta move on from it.
[00:25:58] Now, what do you say to people that are your age
[00:26:02] who are mothers?
[00:26:03] You know what I'm saying?
[00:26:04] Like I say, shout out to all the mothers
[00:26:06] who are my age, who are holding it down,
[00:26:08] who are doing the damn thing.
[00:26:09] You know what I'm saying?
[00:26:10] Because there are some people that I went through.
[00:26:12] I went to high school and college with.
[00:26:14] I found them mothers, I'm like damn,
[00:26:16] having mothers, they're like, well,
[00:26:17] I had mother's day too, you feel me?
[00:26:19] Yeah, no, I have a few friends that are moms.
[00:26:23] My nieces who are just like a few years older than me
[00:26:27] are mothers and I see what they go through
[00:26:31] and I just think they need to be so much.
[00:26:34] It's easy for me to say this,
[00:26:36] but I think I would like
[00:26:38] for them to be easier on themselves.
[00:26:41] My friends are so hard on themselves.
[00:26:44] Like they don't spank and they're like,
[00:26:49] I think I traumatized her because I told her no.
[00:26:52] And I'm like, you're fine, you're okay.
[00:26:56] Like they're like, I'm like girl, that's-
[00:27:00] You traumatized them because you told her no, man.
[00:27:04] I'm like, you don't even spank her.
[00:27:06] I think you're doing good.
[00:27:07] Like this doesn't sound-
[00:27:09] Man, her babies wouldn't last a day
[00:27:12] as the parents we dealt with, you know what I'm saying?
[00:27:15] If you get traumatized because you got told no, like-
[00:27:18] No, not actually, but she was just saying like,
[00:27:21] oh my God, I talked to her sternly.
[00:27:23] Like, is she okay?
[00:27:23] And I'm like, you're good, she's okay.
[00:27:27] They're so hard on themselves and I just,
[00:27:30] I would-
[00:27:32] They're just doing way better than they think they are.
[00:27:34] A lot of my friends are raising themselves
[00:27:36] as they're raising their kids.
[00:27:38] Like they're in the midst of their own trauma
[00:27:41] with their mom or whoever.
[00:27:43] And then boom, you have a kid
[00:27:45] and now you need to like speed that shit up.
[00:27:48] You don't have extra time to work through
[00:27:51] whatever the fuck you were trying to work through.
[00:27:52] Like now you have a kid.
[00:27:53] And I think that switch is, that's traumatic.
[00:28:01] That's traumatic.
[00:28:02] I've seen it.
[00:28:03] That's so traumatic for them.
[00:28:05] It causes an identity crisis.
[00:28:07] Your mental health, you literally have postpartum already.
[00:28:11] So then you have that on top.
[00:28:12] It's wild.
[00:28:14] I think they need to, they need more credit
[00:28:17] but then they also need to give themselves more credit
[00:28:20] because we live in a world that does not give you credit.
[00:28:25] Even though we do have this mother's day,
[00:28:27] like you just said, it's one day
[00:28:29] that we make this big deal
[00:28:30] when this should be all the time.
[00:28:32] So even though it needs to come from us,
[00:28:36] I also want moms to know that it's okay to be like,
[00:28:38] I'm a damn good mom and I try my best every damn day
[00:28:43] and you're gonna fuck up your kid a little bit.
[00:28:45] You are, you are, but it just, it's the scale.
[00:28:50] Where do you do it?
[00:28:51] Okay, did you yell a little bit too much or whatever?
[00:28:55] Okay, like they'll be fine.
[00:28:58] But I think just it's okay for them
[00:29:02] to hype themselves up.
[00:29:04] I think that's what I'm saying.
[00:29:05] Yes.
[00:29:06] You definitely gotta hype yourselves up moms.
[00:29:08] Like if you know you out here on your grounds,
[00:29:12] especially the single moms, you know what I'm saying?
[00:29:14] I know there's a song out that goes,
[00:29:16] now you're a single mom, yada, yada, yada.
[00:29:19] But y'all are doing it.
[00:29:20] Some of y'all are doing the damn thing.
[00:29:22] If you are doing the damn thing,
[00:29:24] you're taking care of your kid,
[00:29:25] fuck and hype yourself up.
[00:29:26] You deserve it, you know what I'm saying?
[00:29:28] Especially on today.
[00:29:29] And don't let today be the only day
[00:29:31] you hype yourself up.
[00:29:32] I need y'all hyping yourselves up every day
[00:29:35] because you are out here doing the damn thing
[00:29:39] with or without your partner, you know what I'm saying?
[00:29:43] Hype yourselves up, give yourselves credit
[00:29:45] because y'all fucking earned it.
[00:29:47] And also shout out to all the single moms
[00:29:50] in my age that I know of that are holding it down,
[00:29:53] are grinding out here doing their thing.
[00:29:56] And also shout out to the single moms
[00:29:58] that allow dads to still be around
[00:30:01] even though y'all are not together
[00:30:02] because I've heard some stories of dads,
[00:30:06] just because y'all not together,
[00:30:08] I've heard some dads, you know what I'm saying?
[00:30:10] Oh, my girl won't let me see the kids
[00:30:12] because we ain't together, you know what I'm saying?
[00:30:14] So that's kind of messed up.
[00:30:17] Yeah, those situations can be...
[00:30:21] I immediately thought of Kanye West, sorry.
[00:30:24] Damn, I thought of Kanye West too,
[00:30:26] sound like damn, damn Kanye, you know what I'm saying?
[00:30:31] That's a whole nother thing.
[00:30:34] But yeah, and I don't know about you,
[00:30:40] but I was in that situation too growing up.
[00:30:42] And it was funny because I didn't know all the shit
[00:30:44] my dad was doing, my dad was doing so much fuck shit.
[00:30:47] And when I grew up and realized what was going on,
[00:30:50] I was like, wow, mom, thank you so much
[00:30:52] for still letting me have a relationship with him.
[00:30:55] Because not that this would have...
[00:31:00] I'm not saying that this would have been okay,
[00:31:02] but I could see where her mind could connect the dots.
[00:31:05] Like, okay, I don't want my daughter with him
[00:31:08] or I don't want my daughter or he needs to just leave
[00:31:10] and let's leave us and then we'll be fine.
[00:31:12] Like I could see that train of thought
[00:31:14] and she didn't go there.
[00:31:15] And I just, I really appreciate that
[00:31:18] because it allowed me to...
[00:31:19] And she also didn't shit talk my dad to me.
[00:31:21] I had no idea what was going on.
[00:31:26] Like no clue.
[00:31:28] And even though when I did find out
[00:31:32] that was a lot to process at once,
[00:31:35] I was kind of grateful that I had that innocence
[00:31:37] growing up of not knowing anything.
[00:31:41] Aside, I mean, I would hear them, their fights,
[00:31:43] but I didn't know what he was running around doing.
[00:31:47] Like I didn't know what was going on.
[00:31:49] Right.
[00:31:50] I feel that too because my mom,
[00:31:52] she really didn't shit talk my dad either.
[00:31:55] But you know what?
[00:31:57] Like I said, I've had to my mom,
[00:31:58] I forgive her for her first husband.
[00:32:02] But I'm like, sometimes I do wonder
[00:32:04] if my dad would have been better than him.
[00:32:06] But you know what?
[00:32:07] At the end of the day, it happened.
[00:32:09] You just gotta keep moving forward.
[00:32:11] You know what I'm saying?
[00:32:12] So it's like, I do forgive my mom for that
[00:32:14] because I got to see what kind of man my dad was.
[00:32:17] And I'm like, an example of that is
[00:32:19] the fact that I met the sister I'm close to.
[00:32:22] I ain't meet her till I was 26.
[00:32:24] So it's like, that should tell you
[00:32:26] what kind of dad I had.
[00:32:27] You know what I'm saying?
[00:32:28] My dad was out here just making babies.
[00:32:31] You know what I'm saying?
[00:32:32] Having women bicker over each other.
[00:32:33] So it's like, I can forgive my mom for like,
[00:32:37] you know, I understand why my dad wasn't around.
[00:32:41] But there is that part of me that does say that,
[00:32:44] hey, you know, maybe my dad had been better
[00:32:46] than what I went through.
[00:32:47] But you know what it is?
[00:32:49] But that's just where I had to overcome it
[00:32:51] and say, you know what?
[00:32:52] It happened.
[00:32:53] You gotta forgive her.
[00:32:54] You're not a jail for murder.
[00:32:55] So you definitely gotta forgive her.
[00:32:58] Yeah, I know totally.
[00:32:59] And it's just when I think,
[00:33:02] I'm sorry, I keep referencing teaching,
[00:33:04] but seeing parents and talking to parents
[00:33:08] in their own way, they've admitted to me
[00:33:11] not that they don't know what they're doing,
[00:33:13] but that it's hard and they struggle.
[00:33:16] And sometimes, yeah, no, I've had parents say,
[00:33:19] yeah, sometimes I don't know what to do.
[00:33:22] And kids expect their parents to be perfect.
[00:33:28] And I'm really glad you gave your mom grace on that
[00:33:31] because yeah, at the same time,
[00:33:35] even if my mom did go, wow,
[00:33:39] like your dad ran off again with that bitch.
[00:33:43] Like can you like, oh my God, da da da.
[00:33:45] I don't think that,
[00:33:47] I'm like, well, yeah, like, you know,
[00:33:50] especially it's just me and my mom.
[00:33:52] It's nobody else around.
[00:33:54] Like, you know, I don't know.
[00:33:57] I could, yeah, just giving parents a lot more grace
[00:34:04] while at the same time, I think people,
[00:34:07] like I said, like mothers,
[00:34:08] we need to practice more validating ourselves
[00:34:14] because I know for me, like what I needed that,
[00:34:19] like, wow, this is really fucked up.
[00:34:21] Da da da da da.
[00:34:22] I needed to tell myself, you're right, Kiana,
[00:34:23] this was fucked up.
[00:34:24] Because I wanted my mom to say it
[00:34:27] or I wanted somebody else to say it.
[00:34:29] And then it's just like, no, that was fucked up.
[00:34:31] I know that was fucked up.
[00:34:32] It was, yes, yes, it was for myself.
[00:34:36] And I encourage a lot of people
[00:34:39] who are struggling with their parents
[00:34:41] and you want your parents to admit something
[00:34:43] or you want that you can admit it to yourself first.
[00:34:46] Cause I think that's a bit,
[00:34:48] that's like a little crutch right there.
[00:34:51] That's like a cop out.
[00:34:52] That's preventing you from truly feeling
[00:34:54] what the fucked up shit you need to admit is.
[00:34:57] You want your parents to admit it
[00:34:58] cause it'll feel better if they do it.
[00:35:00] But it's like, you need to do it.
[00:35:02] And it'll hurt when you do it,
[00:35:04] but you need to do it first.
[00:35:05] And then if they do it, that's like extra,
[00:35:08] but you have to.
[00:35:09] It definitely is extra.
[00:35:10] And also sometimes we've got to admit to ourselves
[00:35:13] that it was fucked up,
[00:35:14] but you gotta admit to yourself
[00:35:16] cause sometimes our parents might not ever admit
[00:35:19] that it was fucked up
[00:35:20] because you forget the generation that they were raising.
[00:35:25] Those are our grandparents that admit shit.
[00:35:27] You know what I'm saying?
[00:35:28] They ain't gonna ever say,
[00:35:29] I'm sorry for this, I'm sorry for that.
[00:35:32] No, totally.
[00:35:33] I apologize.
[00:35:34] I have to switch locations.
[00:35:36] Go for it, go for it, go for it.
[00:35:37] You think this is a piece of my charger?
[00:35:40] You know when you grab your charger
[00:35:42] but you don't grab the whole thing.
[00:35:43] I just did that.
[00:35:44] Yeah, I totally understand that.
[00:35:47] I definitely understand that.
[00:35:48] Why are you doing that?
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[00:36:40] So now that my guess is settled and stuff.
[00:36:44] Now I know it's about minute 36
[00:36:47] and I should ask you this at first,
[00:36:49] but because you're returning, I guess I didn't ask.
[00:36:51] But you know what?
[00:36:52] I gotta remember,
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[00:37:00] I know we're at minute 37.
[00:37:02] I probably should have asked you this at minute five.
[00:37:05] I do apologize.
[00:37:07] No, you're good.
[00:37:08] Well, my podcast is Dark Sugar Podcast.
[00:37:11] Started in 2018.
[00:37:14] That's so wild six years.
[00:37:15] And it's a mental health podcast
[00:37:19] where we talk about how blackness and mental health
[00:37:25] kinda intertwine with each other and affect each other.
[00:37:28] I also talk about psychology and nuances in psychology
[00:37:33] as well as like pop psychology
[00:37:35] that has been pretty trendy lately.
[00:37:39] But yeah, I'm available on Google, Spotify, Apple.
[00:37:44] I am on, I do have some YouTube,
[00:37:50] I plan on uploading more episodes on there,
[00:37:53] but I think I just have like one or two.
[00:37:55] So that's gonna get started soon.
[00:37:57] But definitely look forward to more collabs, more lives.
[00:38:03] I can't say anything else because I'm in the mix,
[00:38:06] but yeah.
[00:38:08] Yeah, I feel that definitely feel that.
[00:38:11] I know it's been a while.
[00:38:12] Like I said, I do thank you for,
[00:38:15] because you were a part of the Liquor Talk boom
[00:38:19] or the guest boom where I realized
[00:38:21] that I don't need a cohost living in the city.
[00:38:24] So, you know what I'm saying?
[00:38:25] Oh yeah.
[00:38:26] To go ahead and make podcasts happen
[00:38:28] because don't get me wrong,
[00:38:30] I got love for the people that held it down
[00:38:32] with me the first round around.
[00:38:34] But when people don't believe in your vision,
[00:38:37] they don't show up.
[00:38:38] And also I found that people in other places,
[00:38:42] they will show up for you faster
[00:38:44] than people that's like right up the street from you.
[00:38:47] It's sad reality, but it is what it is.
[00:38:51] It's really true.
[00:38:52] I've had that.
[00:38:53] I've seen that too.
[00:38:56] It's like damn,
[00:38:57] like we were right up the street together.
[00:38:58] You know what I'm saying?
[00:38:59] I can literally see you're literally my next door
[00:39:02] neighbor, but you just gotta give people grace
[00:39:06] and just move on with your life.
[00:39:07] You know what I'm saying?
[00:39:08] And also embrace the support where it comes from.
[00:39:12] I feel like that's where a lot of podcasts just fuck up at
[00:39:14] because a lot of people,
[00:39:16] I look back on some people I had around the time
[00:39:19] that they ain't even podcasting no more.
[00:39:21] I'm like damn.
[00:39:22] Oh yeah, no, I've had that too.
[00:39:24] I'm actually kind of cleaning out my
[00:39:30] just followers and everything who I follow
[00:39:32] and who follows me.
[00:39:33] And yeah, I'm saying, I'm like, oh my God,
[00:39:34] they're not even podcasting anymore.
[00:39:38] And I'm just like, yeah, it's hard.
[00:39:41] It takes a lot of consistency.
[00:39:43] That's why I almost,
[00:39:46] yeah, it was hard for me to be consistent for a minute
[00:39:49] just because of life stuff too, but.
[00:39:53] Yeah.
[00:39:53] And I'm glad you didn't let life win
[00:39:56] because sometimes life will try to throw everything
[00:39:59] it can to win.
[00:40:00] You know what I'm saying?
[00:40:00] It's like, I've dealt with some fucked up situations.
[00:40:03] I'm like, you're not stopping this vision life.
[00:40:06] You know what I'm saying?
[00:40:06] It's like, I love what I do.
[00:40:09] So I love getting on the mic
[00:40:10] and talking to people in different states.
[00:40:12] I love making connections in other states that I wait.
[00:40:16] If I ever roll up in that state,
[00:40:17] I'm like, hey, I have a connection here.
[00:40:19] So I'm not just fucking lost.
[00:40:22] No, totally.
[00:40:23] And then I think it just expands the community.
[00:40:27] I don't know why, but at the beginning of podcasting,
[00:40:29] I wasn't anti collab,
[00:40:31] but I just didn't see the point.
[00:40:34] If I'm being really honest,
[00:40:35] I'm like, it's my podcast and I'm just talking.
[00:40:38] And then when I started collabing with people and connecting,
[00:40:42] I was like, oh, this is so much bigger
[00:40:44] than just me talking.
[00:40:47] Yeah, it's about connecting
[00:40:48] and getting to know other people and learning.
[00:40:52] Yeah.
[00:40:53] And also it was through collaborations that I learned
[00:40:56] that people in other states will support you more
[00:40:59] than people in your own city or state.
[00:41:02] You know what I'm saying?
[00:41:03] So it's like, that's the one thing I learned.
[00:41:05] That's why I embraced the collaborations
[00:41:07] because it's always fun to listen to people's stories
[00:41:10] and stuff and let them tell their stories
[00:41:12] about where they came from and stuff.
[00:41:16] No, for sure.
[00:41:18] Yeah.
[00:41:19] Now going back to one of your most recent episodes,
[00:41:22] you talked about what the fuck is intuition.
[00:41:24] And I'm like, this does hit you.
[00:41:27] Now why do you feel like people don't trust
[00:41:30] their intuition at times?
[00:41:32] I feel like because they don't understand it.
[00:41:37] I didn't understand mine.
[00:41:42] And also intuition is personal.
[00:41:45] And so it's a journey.
[00:41:51] I think for one, I didn't understand mine.
[00:41:53] I thought that intuition is just this like,
[00:41:57] yes, it's universal,
[00:41:58] but I thought the framework was universal.
[00:42:00] So mine's gonna look like somebody else's
[00:42:02] or my mind is gonna feel like somebody else's
[00:42:05] and that's not true.
[00:42:06] I'm watching all these videos about intuition,
[00:42:09] people explaining it, why people explaining it.
[00:42:12] And I'm just like,
[00:42:15] it was just so confusing.
[00:42:18] So I feel like when people understand
[00:42:20] what their intuition is for,
[00:42:23] how it feels to you
[00:42:25] and how it applies situationally,
[00:42:29] that's when you have a better connection to it.
[00:42:33] That's real.
[00:42:34] So now I hate to play devil's advocate here,
[00:42:37] but what do you say if you trust your intuition
[00:42:40] and it's still, you're still finding out,
[00:42:43] you come to find out your intuition was wrong.
[00:42:46] I realize it's not about being right or wrong,
[00:42:50] which blew my mind.
[00:42:52] Like it's so weird,
[00:42:54] but it's like not about being right or wrong.
[00:42:57] Sometimes it's about like,
[00:43:04] okay, so for instance,
[00:43:06] I've had feelings not to go to parties.
[00:43:10] Now I've had feelings not to go places
[00:43:13] and things happened.
[00:43:15] And I've also had feelings not to go,
[00:43:18] but nothing happened.
[00:43:23] But when you really think about the universe
[00:43:27] and the framework and time and how time works,
[00:43:30] if you would have gone,
[00:43:33] something probably would have happened.
[00:43:36] The fact that you did not go is what made nothing happen.
[00:43:41] So sometimes it's not always about being right or wrong.
[00:43:44] Sometimes it doesn't work the way we think it does.
[00:43:47] Or we think,
[00:43:49] oh, so and so is cheating my intuitions telling me
[00:43:53] and you break up and it's like,
[00:43:54] man, he wasn't even cheating girl, la la la la la.
[00:43:57] No, maybe he wasn't,
[00:43:58] but in a month or two, maybe he would have.
[00:44:02] And you just caught it.
[00:44:02] So you never know how it works,
[00:44:05] but it doesn't matter, I realize.
[00:44:07] What matters is you working that muscle
[00:44:10] of listening to yourself.
[00:44:13] Yes, you definitely gotta work that muscle into yourself.
[00:44:16] And it's like,
[00:44:17] if your intuition is telling you to make a move,
[00:44:20] you gotta trust your intuition
[00:44:21] because I had a teacher back in the day,
[00:44:24] like back when I was in school and stuff,
[00:44:26] I was taking a test
[00:44:28] and the teacher remarked on a couple of my answers.
[00:44:31] He was like, you had the right answer.
[00:44:34] You should always trust your first intuition.
[00:44:37] And I was like, wow.
[00:44:38] So that told me right there,
[00:44:40] you gotta trust your intuition
[00:44:41] because sometimes your intuition might be telling you
[00:44:43] something that might be right
[00:44:45] and you don't even realize it.
[00:44:48] Okay, so let me tell you a small intuition thing
[00:44:51] that blew my mind, right?
[00:44:53] So I'm at work, the kids have a computer cart
[00:44:55] where their laptops go in
[00:44:56] and it's like a big like singular charger
[00:45:00] that charges the whole cart of the computers.
[00:45:03] And so there have been a few times throughout the year
[00:45:06] where we thought the cart was charging
[00:45:10] either over the weekend or a night.
[00:45:13] And then when we come back in the morning,
[00:45:14] it wasn't plugged in or something was wrong.
[00:45:16] So tell me why I get to my room
[00:45:21] and the carts next to the bookshelf
[00:45:23] and I'm like doing something at the bookshelf
[00:45:25] and something's telling me their laptops did not charge.
[00:45:29] Like something's just telling me they didn't charge.
[00:45:31] And I'm like, what?
[00:45:32] Yes they did.
[00:45:34] The kids come in,
[00:45:35] Miss, Miss, oh damn, Miss,
[00:45:38] the laptop's didn't charge.
[00:45:39] And I was like,
[00:45:42] I literally could have plugged,
[00:45:44] I should have looked and plugged it in.
[00:45:45] It would have been charged by the time they came in
[00:45:47] but I just ignored it because I was like,
[00:45:50] no, when it wouldn't have hurt me to just look
[00:45:53] and see that it was not plugged in.
[00:45:57] It was just like little things like that.
[00:46:00] It wouldn't have hurt me.
[00:46:01] But I think intuition is so profound to me
[00:46:06] that sometimes when I hear it,
[00:46:07] I'm like, I didn't just hear that shit.
[00:46:09] I'm in denial.
[00:46:10] I'm like, because it's literally for me
[00:46:12] a voice and this distinct knowing.
[00:46:16] And I'm just like, ain't no way.
[00:46:19] And I'm like, why do I do that?
[00:46:21] And I'm trying to challenge that.
[00:46:22] I'm trying to work on that
[00:46:23] because I'm like bitch, I told you.
[00:46:25] I told you.
[00:46:27] Why didn't you just do it?
[00:46:28] And so, yeah, I think everybody
[00:46:31] has their own different reasons.
[00:46:32] Do you follow your intuition?
[00:46:34] Are you good with that?
[00:46:35] Yeah, not at times I do,
[00:46:38] but then sometimes I'm like,
[00:46:41] I'm like sometimes it'd be the one-off
[00:46:43] that they'll get you, you know what I'm saying?
[00:46:45] Like if it's a job or if it's a situation
[00:46:49] or you're like, I don't know about this situation,
[00:46:54] you know what I'm saying?
[00:46:55] But you know.
[00:46:56] Yeah, but yeah, no,
[00:46:57] I agree that it's usually correct.
[00:47:02] Like usually, but yeah, sometimes it just,
[00:47:10] it doesn't work out.
[00:47:11] It's kind of like a God thing
[00:47:12] how people are like, it's God's timing.
[00:47:14] It's you can't always trust with your human eyes.
[00:47:17] It's kind of the same with intuition.
[00:47:19] Like, yo, this could be any sort of way
[00:47:26] and like not the way you always think.
[00:47:30] But I think my biggest lesson with intuition
[00:47:34] is not to let anybody hijack mine or make me doubt mine.
[00:47:38] Like if I'm gonna doubt mine,
[00:47:40] it's because I'm doubting mine,
[00:47:41] not because someone's manipulating me
[00:47:44] or talking me out of it.
[00:47:48] Because speaking of unnatural things,
[00:47:52] it is unnatural to talk someone out of their intuition.
[00:47:56] Your intuition is divine.
[00:48:00] So for someone to talk you out of that,
[00:48:04] I think it's demonic personally.
[00:48:06] So when I feel someone doing that to me
[00:48:09] or when I see someone doing that,
[00:48:10] I'm just like, ooh, that is very unnatural
[00:48:13] because if somebody came to me and was like, yo girl,
[00:48:18] you know that party Friday night?
[00:48:19] Like I just have a bad feeling I'm gonna stay home.
[00:48:22] I really don't feel good.
[00:48:24] Like my guts telling me,
[00:48:25] if they said it like that and I go,
[00:48:28] girl, you better come on.
[00:48:30] What?
[00:48:31] They literally just say, it's not,
[00:48:33] well, I'm scared and I'm nervous.
[00:48:34] No, they said something's up, I'm gonna stay home.
[00:48:39] To talk them out of that I think is very strange.
[00:48:41] Even if you don't mean it in like a bad way,
[00:48:44] you have to respect.
[00:48:46] To me that shows that you don't respect
[00:48:47] your own intuition if you can talk somebody
[00:48:49] out of theirs.
[00:48:51] And so, and you know, relationships too.
[00:48:56] Well, I'm like, yeah, I feel like something's up.
[00:48:58] And he's like, no.
[00:49:02] What?
[00:49:03] Like you don't, that's not natural.
[00:49:07] Yeah, listen, you gotta,
[00:49:10] now you touched on a few points here.
[00:49:11] I'm about to, I agree with all of them.
[00:49:14] It's like now if it's with the relationships and stuff,
[00:49:17] you always got to trust your gut,
[00:49:18] you know what I'm saying?
[00:49:19] Cause something going on.
[00:49:20] And if that person don't listen to you,
[00:49:22] I feel like that person ain't for you.
[00:49:24] Know what I'm saying?
[00:49:25] Now, if someone tries to talk you out of your vision,
[00:49:28] then if they do, that's not really your vision.
[00:49:31] Because I had someone talk me out of my visions
[00:49:35] of going to law school.
[00:49:36] And I'm like, and I thought about it.
[00:49:37] I'm like, you know what?
[00:49:39] I ain't feeling law school now that I think about it.
[00:49:42] You know what I'm saying?
[00:49:43] Now that I think I'm like,
[00:49:44] you know, if I become a lawyer and I get people off,
[00:49:47] I'm like, yeah.
[00:49:49] And people may have did that.
[00:49:51] You know what I'm saying?
[00:49:52] Now it's like, but what I'm saying is
[00:49:55] if someone can talk you out of your intuition,
[00:49:59] the intuition wasn't clear enough,
[00:50:00] or it wasn't real enough, you know?
[00:50:03] But if you can't trust someone's intuition,
[00:50:05] then you ain't a really good friend or lover at that.
[00:50:10] Yeah.
[00:50:11] I don't know.
[00:50:12] I kinda hear you, but personally,
[00:50:14] I've been in situations where I was dead set on something
[00:50:19] and was manipulated out of it
[00:50:21] when I really did think that.
[00:50:24] But because I was so like,
[00:50:27] and it speaks more to me
[00:50:29] than that person being manipulated,
[00:50:30] but because I wasn't sure in my own sense of self
[00:50:33] and what I believed, I could just like sway like that.
[00:50:37] Right.
[00:50:38] And they knew that.
[00:50:41] Exactly.
[00:50:42] Now I've had intuition where my intuition did fail me,
[00:50:45] but I was young as hell and I didn't know no better.
[00:50:48] You know what I'm saying?
[00:50:48] So- Yeah, it's a practice.
[00:50:52] Yeah.
[00:50:53] It is a situation where everybody was right
[00:50:56] about a situation where like,
[00:50:58] they all said the same thing, but my mind was like,
[00:51:03] I'm gonna prove y'all wrong.
[00:51:04] But in reality, they were right.
[00:51:08] Yep.
[00:51:09] Yeah.
[00:51:12] And see, I went through this thing with my friends,
[00:51:15] right, about being wrong or right.
[00:51:18] And it's about relationships because several times,
[00:51:22] I've had friends in relationships, and I'm honest.
[00:51:24] Like if I don't like your partner,
[00:51:26] if I feel like a weird vibe, I will tell you.
[00:51:28] And it's not, it's for, I care about you.
[00:51:32] I'm not trying to be messy.
[00:51:33] It's just like, hey, especially if the friend
[00:51:35] is like bringing the concern, I'll go,
[00:51:38] yeah, I'm also concerned this is why, you know?
[00:51:42] And, but for some reason, the other way around,
[00:51:45] I've had friends not tell me anything until after.
[00:51:50] Right.
[00:51:51] And I'm like looking at them and they're like,
[00:51:53] oh yeah, girl, this and this and yeah,
[00:51:56] I knew this and I saw this and I'm like,
[00:51:59] okay, this is what I'm saying.
[00:52:01] I guess maybe they didn't feel like you were gonna say
[00:52:03] you were going to trust them.
[00:52:05] That's probably why they didn't say nothing,
[00:52:07] which is- Correct.
[00:52:10] But yes, that's fucked up because when I told you,
[00:52:13] I don't give a shit if I'm right or wrong.
[00:52:16] I actually hope I'm wrong, but I'm telling you
[00:52:20] for your wellbeing, because I care about you.
[00:52:24] Fuck if you listen to what I say, I care about you.
[00:52:28] That's like, to me, it's the equivalent of watching me
[00:52:31] cross the street and you see a bus,
[00:52:34] but you're not sure if I'm going to listen to you or not.
[00:52:37] So you don't say anything and then I'm in the hospital
[00:52:40] and you're like, girl, I saw that fucking bus.
[00:52:43] Why are you saying that? And I'm like,
[00:52:45] well, not only that, but why are you saying it now?
[00:52:50] I actually care less about the fact
[00:52:53] that they didn't say anything,
[00:52:54] because I actually get that.
[00:52:56] That you didn't feel like it was your place.
[00:52:59] Maybe I had an attitude and you didn't want to bring-
[00:53:02] Totally get that, but it's not helping now.
[00:53:06] So to me, I told them, I feel you guys,
[00:53:09] but pick one, because actually you were right.
[00:53:12] Because you could see, you're farther away.
[00:53:15] You can see this.
[00:53:16] Like after a certain point and your friends are solid
[00:53:20] in the relationship, no, don't comment anymore.
[00:53:22] But I don't see anything wrong with one time going,
[00:53:28] hey girl, I'm seeing this thing I'm concerned about.
[00:53:31] How do you feel about it?
[00:53:32] I'm just noticing something.
[00:53:33] Do you notice that?
[00:53:35] That's what I did.
[00:53:37] But I just felt like I didn't get it back.
[00:53:40] When I talk to them about it is cool,
[00:53:43] but I was just kind of like, I want the same.
[00:53:48] You know, but I think it goes into
[00:53:52] misinterpreting your intuition.
[00:53:54] And I'm not trying to call anybody out or anything,
[00:53:57] but it was kind of like worried about being right or wrong.
[00:54:01] Fuck that, right or wrong.
[00:54:03] Well, what if I'm wrong?
[00:54:05] What if her boyfriend is actually a good guy?
[00:54:08] What if he's not a weirdo?
[00:54:10] What if he's not?
[00:54:10] Then that's great if you're wrong.
[00:54:13] Great.
[00:54:14] But maybe this intuition hunch is just for you
[00:54:18] to get fucking closer to your friends.
[00:54:22] Maybe that's why you're being pushed to tell her,
[00:54:26] fuck the guy.
[00:54:27] Maybe it's for y'all to get a little deeper
[00:54:29] or maybe what you say is gonna connect
[00:54:31] to some other shit that's gonna help her figure it out.
[00:54:35] Yeah, now I've seen that happen,
[00:54:37] but I've also seen that where you might say something
[00:54:40] out of your intuition, but then the friend flip on you.
[00:54:44] Why are you saying this and stuff
[00:54:45] and try to make you the public enemy?
[00:54:47] And I'm like, you know what?
[00:54:48] Honestly, I don't want a friend like that.
[00:54:51] I don't want friends.
[00:54:52] I don't want family like that.
[00:54:53] If you flip out on me, if I tell you something
[00:54:57] from a man's point of view,
[00:54:59] for my best interest,
[00:55:00] for your best interest just looking out for you,
[00:55:02] I'm like, and you flip out on me,
[00:55:03] I'm like, you know what?
[00:55:05] Okay, I'm just gonna sit back and watch.
[00:55:08] I'll let you vent and stuff.
[00:55:10] I'll still be that sound abort or whatever,
[00:55:12] but I'll just let you vent.
[00:55:14] I'm just not gonna say no.
[00:55:15] I'm not gonna offer no advice or nothing.
[00:55:17] Well, see, I...
[00:55:22] Sometimes I think like what's the point in me
[00:55:27] offering you advice and being real with you
[00:55:28] if you just don't flip out on me?
[00:55:31] No, totally, but then at that point,
[00:55:33] don't fucking tell me about your toxic-ass situation
[00:55:38] if I can't say shit.
[00:55:40] Ooh, yeah.
[00:55:43] No, because can I tell you?
[00:55:44] I had to check myself on that.
[00:55:46] I was in a really toxic situation
[00:55:49] and I was noticing that I wanted to tell my friends
[00:55:53] about it, but I was getting defensive
[00:55:55] when they were telling me the truth.
[00:55:56] So I had to tell myself,
[00:55:58] Kiana, you need to not talk to them
[00:56:00] about this for a minute.
[00:56:01] You need to get a handle on it
[00:56:04] because there's a part of you that's in denial
[00:56:09] and you know you're in denial
[00:56:11] and you're wanting your friends to validate
[00:56:12] this whack-ass situation and they're not gonna do it.
[00:56:15] And I could feel that if I kept going,
[00:56:20] it would have affected my relationship with them
[00:56:24] because one of my friends, I was getting defensive
[00:56:26] and I was like, oh, sorry girl, I'm getting defensive.
[00:56:28] And she's like, oh, it's okay,
[00:56:30] I'm just talking to you.
[00:56:31] And I was like, okay, but then I was kinda like,
[00:56:32] woo, maybe you need to not tell her next time
[00:56:35] if you're gonna react like that.
[00:56:38] What else is she supposed to say
[00:56:41] when you're telling her that you're going through
[00:56:43] all this crazy shit that she doesn't wanna see
[00:56:46] you go through?
[00:56:46] You know?
[00:56:47] Yeah, and sometimes we gotta learn that.
[00:56:50] You know what I'm saying?
[00:56:51] Because sometimes people will tell you things
[00:56:53] for your best interest because they genuinely love
[00:56:56] and respect you and they don't wanna see you get hurt.
[00:56:58] And you know what I'm saying?
[00:56:59] And sometimes people don't realize that
[00:57:01] until they get hurt.
[00:57:04] Yeah, and it's all about lessons.
[00:57:07] And my friends have let me do that.
[00:57:10] They've just, I've seen it where I can hear it
[00:57:14] in their voice when they're like,
[00:57:15] I'm just gonna let her rock this one out.
[00:57:18] And we have to, that's us respecting each other.
[00:57:23] Like it hurts sometimes, you don't wanna see your friend
[00:57:27] in situations like that, but also you have to
[00:57:29] just respect their choice,
[00:57:30] respect that they're their own person
[00:57:32] and that they'll be okay.
[00:57:35] I try to put that in the universe too.
[00:57:37] Like I trust that you'll be okay.
[00:57:40] Yeah, yeah, you definitely gotta trust
[00:57:42] that they'll be okay and stuff, you know what I'm saying?
[00:57:44] But sometimes you just gotta learn your tough lessons
[00:57:47] on your own that lessons don't mean anything
[00:57:50] or stuff so.
[00:57:53] And now what's some, now how do people misinterpret
[00:57:58] their intuition?
[00:58:00] Well, you can misinterpret it.
[00:58:03] Okay, so here's how I've misinterpreted it.
[00:58:05] I think when you have heightened intuition, especially,
[00:58:15] like I said, it's really important to remember
[00:58:18] that this is a spiritual thing that you're experiencing
[00:58:21] in a very human body.
[00:58:24] And once I realized that it really helped
[00:58:27] because I think what was going on
[00:58:29] is I was feeling these intense bouts of intuition
[00:58:34] that would be a theme.
[00:58:36] So let's say I'm in a relationship
[00:58:39] and I'm getting this intense theme coming
[00:58:43] from this person of dishonesty,
[00:58:45] not quite sure where it's coming from
[00:58:48] but it's so strong,
[00:58:50] it's affecting my relationship with this person.
[00:58:52] I know they're being dishonest,
[00:58:54] but I can't, I don't know about what.
[00:58:58] So then my anxiety kicks in
[00:59:01] and my brain is like,
[00:59:02] let's imagine every single situation it could be.
[00:59:07] And then that's what I do.
[00:59:08] And now I'm a psycho bitch blowing him up
[00:59:12] going, where is she?
[00:59:13] And he's like, huh?
[00:59:15] And I'm like, I know she's there.
[00:59:16] I'm like, I'm psycho at this point
[00:59:18] and now I'm toxic because instead of accepting
[00:59:23] that, whoa, I just felt this crazy wave
[00:59:28] of dishonesty from this person.
[00:59:31] And it feels really destabilizing
[00:59:34] and authenticity is one of my values.
[00:59:37] And because I'm not feeling that from this person,
[00:59:40] I need to evaluate whether I actually need
[00:59:43] to be with them or not
[00:59:45] because it doesn't quite matter what it's about.
[00:59:50] It's that it's this very strong feeling
[00:59:54] that you know, wow, I'm being manipulated.
[00:59:56] I'm being conned somewhere.
[00:59:58] I'm feeling like they're being dishonest
[01:00:00] on a major level somewhere.
[01:00:02] That was how I, and instead of just accepting the feeling
[01:00:06] that was coming through, my brain was like,
[01:00:08] let's try to figure it out.
[01:00:10] Do you know how long you can stay in a relationship
[01:00:13] trying to figure out what the fuck the person is doing?
[01:00:16] Exactly, exactly.
[01:00:19] And I think that's where people messed up
[01:00:21] because when they break up, they're like, yeah,
[01:00:24] they'll tell, they'll say, they always fucking say,
[01:00:26] yeah, I had a little feeling that something was wrong.
[01:00:30] Yeah, I had this gut feeling.
[01:00:33] And I'm like, that was it.
[01:00:36] You just told them yourself basically,
[01:00:38] you know what I'm saying?
[01:00:39] Because if you don't trust your intuition,
[01:00:42] you're gonna be fucked.
[01:00:43] But that's the thing.
[01:00:45] It's not, it's trusting but then also understanding
[01:00:50] that your intuition is not gonna tell you
[01:00:52] every damn little thing all the time,
[01:00:54] just like your feelings don't.
[01:00:56] They're guides.
[01:00:58] And you have to just accept it and know that your brain,
[01:01:06] we just have to get to know,
[01:01:07] we just have to know our bodies more
[01:01:08] because when I didn't know my body,
[01:01:10] I knew I had anxiety.
[01:01:12] I see it on my diagnosis list.
[01:01:14] And I know that I get just agitated
[01:01:19] and I overthink a lot,
[01:01:20] but I didn't fully know what it felt like
[01:01:25] in my body separate from my intuition
[01:01:28] and separate from when I'm calm.
[01:01:30] I didn't have that distinction.
[01:01:34] So now I know, okay, the feeling always comes first.
[01:01:38] It could be milliseconds,
[01:01:40] but the intuition feeling always comes first.
[01:01:44] And if we could learn how to slow that time down
[01:01:47] more and more or recognize it
[01:01:50] and then separate it from when your anxiety kicks in
[01:01:53] because it's kind of like that feeling that moms get
[01:01:56] about their child, something's wrong with my kid.
[01:01:58] Something's wrong.
[01:01:59] Yeah, and sometimes moms will always call.
[01:02:04] Huh?
[01:02:05] And I said, sometimes if they feel like that,
[01:02:07] they will always call.
[01:02:09] Oh yeah, but imagine a mom not calling,
[01:02:15] sitting on the couch trying to figure out what it is
[01:02:19] because she doesn't wanna bother her child
[01:02:21] in case actually nothing's wrong.
[01:02:24] Right.
[01:02:26] Trying to figure out,
[01:02:27] why am I getting this feeling to call Jimmy?
[01:02:30] Well, maybe it's because...
[01:02:33] What?
[01:02:34] Like your kid could be,
[01:02:38] like something could be really wrong
[01:02:41] or maybe nothing's wrong,
[01:02:44] but that child picking up the phone to talk to you
[01:02:48] just slowed them down one second their whole life
[01:02:52] that just maybe prevented a car accident
[01:02:55] a year from that point.
[01:02:56] You just calling them that time and they're fine.
[01:03:03] So it's just like,
[01:03:05] yeah, it doesn't matter what the fuck it is.
[01:03:07] It doesn't matter if they're fine.
[01:03:08] It doesn't matter, just do it.
[01:03:09] Just do it.
[01:03:10] And we start doing that by small things.
[01:03:14] Like if you get,
[01:03:15] if you're walking and something tells you
[01:03:16] to turn somewhere, just turn, just do it.
[01:03:21] If you, and it might obviously separate that
[01:03:24] from impulsive intrusive things.
[01:03:26] Don't just go around punching people
[01:03:28] because you just got a feeling.
[01:03:29] But like,
[01:03:31] but like, you know, slowly these little whispers,
[01:03:36] you know, that's another thing.
[01:03:37] Your anxiety and you'll see these posts all the time,
[01:03:40] but they're right.
[01:03:41] Your intuition is not loud.
[01:03:45] Anxiety is loud.
[01:03:48] Right.
[01:03:49] Your intuition is so quiet and nothing follows after.
[01:03:54] It's just like, and that's it.
[01:03:58] It's not, oh my God, not go because it's somebody's gonna
[01:04:01] get the place is gonna get shoot up
[01:04:03] or maybe I'm gonna see somebody I know
[01:04:04] or am I gonna get a car accident?
[01:04:06] That's not it.
[01:04:07] It doesn't do that.
[01:04:09] And so just feeling your intuition
[01:04:12] how it is within your body,
[01:04:14] I think is the major thing of interpreting it correctly.
[01:04:19] Wow. That's amazing.
[01:04:21] It's definitely true.
[01:04:22] Cause sometimes it's like you will,
[01:04:24] your intuition will tell you something and you listen
[01:04:28] and it comes out all right,
[01:04:29] but then you don't listen and well, they're messed up.
[01:04:34] Yeah. Always, always.
[01:04:36] And I've been in some really crazy situations
[01:04:39] where I didn't listen or I told a friend something
[01:04:41] and they didn't listen and something really crazy happened.
[01:04:45] And I was just like, oh my God,
[01:04:48] because yeah, my intuition has been really specific
[01:04:52] sometimes to the point where I'm scared.
[01:04:59] I know that might get scared,
[01:05:00] but somebody's got to live life.
[01:05:02] You know what I'm saying?
[01:05:02] And because sometimes you want your intuition
[01:05:07] be right 100% of the time,
[01:05:08] but sometimes it is wrong,
[01:05:09] but I would say you just gotta live life
[01:05:12] and get through whatever it is.
[01:05:13] No, totally.
[01:05:15] I think the scary part is when your intuition
[01:05:21] tells you something that you wish was wrong.
[01:05:24] Yeah, that's definitely a scary part.
[01:05:28] You don't want to ever trust your intuition
[01:05:30] when it's something wrong,
[01:05:31] but then it turns out it's right.
[01:05:33] That's definitely a scary part.
[01:05:38] But on that note, I definitely appreciate you
[01:05:42] for coming on.
[01:05:43] Blessing the liquor talk with your presence again.
[01:05:47] What kind of people find you?
[01:05:49] They can find me on all listening platforms,
[01:05:52] Spotify, Google, Apple.
[01:05:55] I am on Instagram and Twitter or X as Dark Sugar Podcast
[01:06:01] and YouTube at Dark Sugar Podcast.
[01:06:05] That's real.
[01:06:06] Well, Kianna, I want to thank you for blessing
[01:06:08] the liquor talk with your presence.
[01:06:10] It won't be 100 episodes or 200 or more episodes
[01:06:14] before I bring you back on.
[01:06:16] Like I said, whenever you're looking to clap
[01:06:17] for your podcast.
[01:06:19] Remember, I'm in Florida, but I'm just a DM away.
[01:06:21] So I would hope that you bring me on.
[01:06:23] You know what I'm saying?
[01:06:24] We can definitely chop it up and stuff.
[01:06:26] So it won't be no 200 episodes
[01:06:29] before I will bring you on again.
[01:06:30] So I definitely will.
[01:06:32] Cool, thank you so much.
[01:06:35] And I want to thank you, the listeners,
[01:06:36] for listening to liquor talk,
[01:06:37] for rocking with liquor talk
[01:06:39] and also to the moms out there.
[01:06:41] Happy Mother's Day if we haven't told you already.
[01:06:44] Go celebrate moms today on this episode of Liquor Talk.
[01:06:48] Hope you all enjoy it.
[01:06:49] Thank you all for checking out season six,
[01:06:51] whether you subscribe on Apple Podcasts,
[01:06:53] Spotify, I Heart Ready,
[01:06:55] until the next episode.
[01:06:57] We are out this thing, ladies and gentlemen.
[01:06:59] Remember, keep pouring it up with us
[01:07:01] and keep rocking with us while we're staying peace.