Raven Symone's Wife Blames Keke Palmer's Question On Her Backlash
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00:00:07 --> 00:00:08 Because Kiki Palmer,
00:00:08 --> 00:00:09 Raven-Symoné and the
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00:00:13 --> 00:00:14 your caregiver?
00:00:14 --> 00:00:16 Like, Raven, do you have a
00:00:16 --> 00:00:17 babysitter? Is this
00:00:17 --> 00:00:18 your curator? I
00:00:18 --> 00:00:18 'd rather not say "
00:00:18 --> 00:00:19 curator". Honey, I
00:00:19 --> 00:00:20 'd rather not say "
00:00:20 --> 00:00:21 curator." Why does this
00:00:21 --> 00:00:21 wife go to
00:00:21 --> 00:00:22 every [ __ ]
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00:00:23 --> 00:00:24 This is annoying. But,
00:00:24 --> 00:00:24 in the end, they
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00:00:25 --> 00:00:26 things. We'll move on
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00:00:28 --> 00:00:29 But Raven's wife,
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00:00:31 --> 00:00:33 well, she didn't
00:00:33 --> 00:00:34 blame Kiki
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00:00:39 --> 00:00:41 This is the conversation, guys.
00:00:42 --> 00:00:43 or what really lived
00:00:43 --> 00:00:44 and became bullying—are
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00:00:49 --> 00:00:50 this.
00:00:51 --> 00:00:52 Did you know that
00:00:52 --> 00:00:53 the beginning of, I won't say
00:00:53 --> 00:00:55 all, but a significant
00:00:55 --> 00:00:56 part of the hate
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00:00:57 --> 00:00:58 began on your
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00:01:02 --> 00:01:02 Oh, yes.
00:01:03 --> 00:01:04 And it became like this...Don't
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00:01:05 --> 00:01:06 not a "don't
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00:01:08 --> 00:01:09 But I mean,
00:01:09 --> 00:01:10 that conversation and question
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00:01:17 --> 00:01:18 n't know anything about
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00:01:20 --> 00:01:21 Yes, "Ravenclaw".
00:01:21 --> 00:01:22 Yes, they felt
00:01:22 --> 00:01:23 you knew nothing
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00:01:24 --> 00:01:24 Yes.
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00:01:25 --> 00:01:26 Yeah, because I didn't
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00:01:26 --> 00:01:27 Because I didn't watch it
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00:01:29 --> 00:01:30 didn't watch it as a
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00:01:33 --> 00:01:35 that. But it was something that
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00:01:36 --> 00:01:37 Dude, is this hard for
00:01:37 --> 00:01:38 you? Because here's what I'll
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00:01:40 --> 00:01:42 rich, poor, Raven,
00:01:42 --> 00:01:43 everyone knows Raven.
00:01:44 --> 00:01:44 Yes.
00:01:45 --> 00:01:46 So I think it's
00:01:46 --> 00:01:47 really hard for people to believe:
00:01:47 --> 00:01:49 "So you just
00:01:49 --> 00:01:50 never turned on the Disney Channel in
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00:01:52 --> 00:01:54 turned on the Disney Channel in
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00:02:02 --> 00:02:04 really...and I'm sure it's a
00:02:04 --> 00:02:05 strange thing, right?
00:02:05 --> 00:02:07 Because you know, maybe people
00:02:07 --> 00:02:08 say, "Oh, it's because
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00:02:09 --> 00:02:12 in reality, no. Because
00:02:12 --> 00:02:13 everyone knows Raven-
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00:02:17 --> 00:02:19 saying that I didn't
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00:02:20 --> 00:02:21 This is where people get
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00:02:22 --> 00:02:23 Watching a show is not the
00:02:23 --> 00:02:24 same as knowing that
00:02:24 --> 00:02:25 someone exists. I just
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00:02:54 --> 00:02:55 shows. There's a difference in that too
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00:02:56 --> 00:02:57 lot of us...
00:02:57 --> 00:02:59 I watched older
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00:03:00 --> 00:03:01 Real Sex' on HBO?
00:03:01 --> 00:03:03 It was so cool." "Real
00:03:03 --> 00:03:05 Sex" is a wild thing, Kiki.
00:03:05 --> 00:03:07 I remember that [ __ ].
00:03:07 --> 00:03:08 Back when we
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00:03:14 --> 00:03:16 it was... it was very
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00:03:17 --> 00:03:18 very informative.
00:03:18 --> 00:03:19 I'm glad you were able to
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00:03:29 --> 00:03:30 That's right. And I never meant
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00:03:40 --> 00:03:41 I think it's also
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00:03:44 --> 00:03:45 It's very... it's always
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00:04:03 --> 00:04:04 Okay, yeah, we can
00:04:04 --> 00:04:05 stop here because I
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00:04:06 --> 00:04:07 she's... because Raven is going to
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00:04:15 --> 00:04:16 was too long,
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00:04:31 --> 00:04:32 not that
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00:04:33 --> 00:04:34 know you knew her.
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00:04:47 --> 00:04:48 Right Raven," but I
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00:05:09 --> 00:05:10 not Simone. Olivia.
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00:05:37 --> 00:05:38 "Oh, I
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00:05:43 --> 00:05:44 everything is in this spirit.
00:05:44 --> 00:05:45 Dude, you're an athlete yourself.
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00:06:01 --> 00:06:02 fans because yeah, it
00:06:02 --> 00:06:03 could get a little
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00:06:04 --> 00:06:06 very strange. And this is 100
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00:06:14 --> 00:06:15 You watched several
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00:06:19 --> 00:06:20 Raven." Listen,
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00:06:29 --> 00:06:30 was, "Oh, okay. Well, you
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00:06:48 --> 00:06:49 her being a white
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00:06:50 --> 00:06:51 problem is, why are
00:06:51 --> 00:06:52 you in every
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00:06:54 --> 00:06:55 every damn
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00:06:59 --> 00:07:00 This is actually my
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00:07:01 --> 00:07:03 , I really didn't
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00:07:05 --> 00:07:06 never watched it,
00:07:10 --> 00:07:11 actually, but if you
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00:07:13 --> 00:07:14 she does an
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00:07:14 --> 00:07:15 looks like "
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00:07:20 --> 00:07:21 Like, and I don't
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00:07:24 --> 00:07:25 n't know. It just
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00:07:27 --> 00:07:28 very similar to a guardian
00:07:28 --> 00:07:30 . And I'm almost sure there's an
00:07:32 --> 00:07:33 age difference between them. Like, Raven is
00:07:33 --> 00:07:34 definitely older, so I
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00:07:35 --> 00:07:37 but it's weird. This is very
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00:07:47 --> 00:07:48 very strange union,
00:07:48 --> 00:07:51 sorry. This is very me.
00:07:53 --> 00:07:54 You know what I am like,
00:07:54 --> 00:07:56 baby. It's just not
00:07:56 --> 00:08:02 that. Another thing
00:08:02 --> 00:08:03 they talked about in the
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00:08:04 --> 00:08:06 was the cultural influence of
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00:08:07 --> 00:08:13 The Cheetah Girls. Now,
00:08:13 --> 00:08:14 now, I'm going to give
00:08:14 --> 00:08:15 you a hard time here, Raven, but
00:08:15 --> 00:08:17 let me hear this.
00:08:17 --> 00:08:18 greater cultural
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00:08:21 --> 00:08:23 Well, my question is: who is
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00:08:26 --> 00:08:27 Don't say that just
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00:08:31 --> 00:08:32 you know, people remember
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00:08:33 --> 00:08:34 not the point."
00:08:34 --> 00:08:35 We're talking about what
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00:08:38 --> 00:08:39 I always felt a
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00:08:40 --> 00:08:41 like Kelly Rowland.
00:08:41 --> 00:08:43 Although I love them, I
00:08:43 --> 00:08:43 wasn't that
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00:08:49 --> 00:08:50 I even went on the
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00:08:56 --> 00:08:57 I was like, "No, no, I
00:08:57 --> 00:08:58 love, I love Disney
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00:09:00 --> 00:09:02 ." Wait. In the office,
00:09:02 --> 00:09:04 on the 21st floor. My
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00:09:10 --> 00:09:11 They had a greater
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00:09:13 --> 00:09:14 I think the level of
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00:09:20 --> 00:09:21 nothing more to
00:09:21 --> 00:09:25 say. The very fact that
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00:09:31 --> 00:09:32 Compared to what the
00:09:32 --> 00:09:34 hell? Cultural
00:09:35 --> 00:09:36 influence? Who had a
00:09:36 --> 00:09:37 greater cultural
00:09:37 --> 00:09:38 influence? What are we
00:09:38 --> 00:09:39 even talking about? You're
00:09:39 --> 00:09:40 not even a real
00:09:41 --> 00:09:42 band. You were the band
00:09:42 --> 00:09:43 that starred in the damn
00:09:43 --> 00:09:45 movie. I mean
00:09:45 --> 00:09:46 , the only thing you could
00:09:46 --> 00:09:48 compare yourself to is 3LW or
00:09:48 --> 00:09:49 some [ __ ] like that, or a
00:09:49 --> 00:09:50 girl group from your
00:09:50 --> 00:09:52 time.
00:09:52 --> 00:09:54 Wasn't Raven in 3LW too? I don't know.
00:09:54 --> 00:09:55 This is with Kylie and all that,
00:09:55 --> 00:09:56 Kylie...Kylie, oh. We
00:09:56 --> 00:09:57 don't even know your names
00:09:57 --> 00:09:58 . First of all, we
00:09:58 --> 00:09:59 don't even know...I
00:09:59 --> 00:10:00 know Kylie because Kylie
00:10:00 --> 00:10:01 was on "The Talk" and
00:10:01 --> 00:10:02 I know Raven-Symoné.
00:10:02 --> 00:10:03 I don't know any other
00:10:03 --> 00:10:04 girls. I don't know
00:10:04 --> 00:10:05 Kylie that
00:10:05 --> 00:10:07 well. None of you have
00:10:07 --> 00:10:07 had any
00:10:07 --> 00:10:09 cultural influence,
00:10:09 --> 00:10:10 except for Raven-Symoné. Do
00:10:10 --> 00:10:12 you understand what I mean
00:10:12 --> 00:10:13 ? Raven, you were the
00:10:13 --> 00:10:15 band. And you were the Cheetah
00:10:15 --> 00:10:17 Girls, and that's it. But you
00:10:17 --> 00:10:18 had some...First of all,
00:10:18 --> 00:10:19 and Kiki, I think Kiki is
00:10:20 --> 00:10:23 really...She's a good
00:10:23 --> 00:10:24 presenter when it
00:10:24 --> 00:10:25 matters. But she will
00:10:25 --> 00:10:26 never hold
00:10:26 --> 00:10:27 her guests
00:10:27 --> 00:10:28 accountable.
00:10:30 --> 00:10:31 Never, and I think it's
00:10:31 --> 00:10:32 just because she
00:10:32 --> 00:10:34 wants to keep seeing
00:10:34 --> 00:10:35 her celebrity friends on
00:10:35 --> 00:10:36 her show, and when
00:10:36 --> 00:10:37 celebrities give
00:10:37 --> 00:10:38 interviews or come
00:10:38 --> 00:10:39 on podcasts, they
00:10:40 --> 00:10:41 give their colleagues a
00:10:41 --> 00:10:42 certain freedom,
00:10:42 --> 00:10:45 you know? But Kiki,
00:10:46 --> 00:10:47 you know perfectly well that the
00:10:47 --> 00:10:48 Cheetah Girls had
00:10:48 --> 00:10:49 no cultural
00:10:49 --> 00:10:51 impact, let alone
00:10:51 --> 00:10:52 more than the damn
00:10:52 --> 00:10:54 Destiny's Child. And we do
00:10:54 --> 00:10:55 n't even need to talk
00:10:55 --> 00:10:57 about numbers. Destiny's Child—
00:10:57 --> 00:10:58 well, I'll say they
00:10:58 --> 00:11:00 weren't, I'm not going to say
00:11:00 --> 00:11:01 they were the
00:11:01 --> 00:11:02 biggest girl
00:11:02 --> 00:11:03 group, but they're
00:11:03 --> 00:11:04 definitely in the
00:11:04 --> 00:11:05 top five, and they're
00:11:05 --> 00:11:08 not even fifth. They're
00:11:08 --> 00:11:09 not even in fifth
00:11:09 --> 00:11:11 place. They're in the top 5, and
00:11:11 --> 00:11:12 they're not even fifth.
00:11:12 --> 00:11:13 Where you want to put them is
00:11:14 --> 00:11:15 up to you. You
00:11:15 --> 00:11:17 decide. But
00:11:17 --> 00:11:18 they're in the top 5, and the Cheetah Girls are
00:11:18 --> 00:11:20 n't even close.
00:11:23 --> 00:11:25 You are not a real band.
00:11:26 --> 00:11:26 You were just a
00:11:27 --> 00:11:28 movie. Honey, you, you,
00:11:28 --> 00:11:29 man, you better go
00:11:29 --> 00:11:30 compete with the damn "
00:11:30 --> 00:11:31 High School Musical"
00:11:31 --> 00:11:32 or some other piece of crap.
00:11:32 --> 00:11:34 "Choir". Let's
00:11:34 --> 00:11:35 talk about the
00:11:35 --> 00:11:36 cultural impact of these
00:11:36 --> 00:11:37 movies and shows that
00:11:37 --> 00:11:39 were centered around
00:11:39 --> 00:11:40 girl groups or something
00:11:40 --> 00:11:41 like that. You don't
00:11:41 --> 00:11:42 have to sit around and
00:11:42 --> 00:11:43 remember the real ones,
00:11:43 --> 00:11:43 it's just...it's
00:11:43 --> 00:11:45 ignorance. It's like...
00:11:46 --> 00:11:48 It's ignorance. It's like
00:11:48 --> 00:11:49 taking Xscape
00:11:49 --> 00:11:50 and debating who
00:11:50 --> 00:11:51 had a bigger
00:11:51 --> 00:11:52 cultural impact: Xscape
00:11:52 --> 00:11:55 or TLC? Now I know
00:11:55 --> 00:11:56 if someone in
00:11:56 --> 00:11:57 the comments gives the
00:11:57 --> 00:11:57 wrong
00:11:57 --> 00:11:58 answer, baby,
00:11:58 --> 00:11:59 you know you're
00:11:59 --> 00:12:00 lying. You know
00:12:00 --> 00:12:02 you're delusional. If
00:12:02 --> 00:12:02 you name anyone
00:12:02 --> 00:12:03 besides the damn TLC, I'm telling
00:12:03 --> 00:12:04 you right now,
00:12:04 --> 00:12:06 baby.