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00:01:00 --> 00:01:01 is it Minister Kenny Brown did actually
00:01:01 --> 00:01:03 I didn't know what did you say Minister
00:01:03 --> 00:01:05 Minister Yes Minister Minister Kenny
00:01:05 --> 00:01:08 Brown and um I invited you on I'm G tell
00:01:08 --> 00:01:09 you why I invited you
00:01:09 --> 00:01:12 on I I have now I have some guests that
00:01:12 --> 00:01:13 have asked to come on and I bring them
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00:01:15 --> 00:01:17 their testimony is then there's some
00:01:17 --> 00:01:20 that I choose personally myself and I
00:01:21 --> 00:01:24 chose you personally because um I kind
00:01:24 --> 00:01:26 of I think we kind of you know I watched
00:01:26 --> 00:01:28 you over the years and I think our kids
00:01:29 --> 00:01:31 went to played Sports together I know
00:01:31 --> 00:01:33 was your nephew right your nephew my son
00:01:33 --> 00:01:35 plays Sports you were such a great uncle
00:01:35 --> 00:01:38 always at the games a man of little
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00:01:47 --> 00:01:48 really don't see it with young people
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00:01:54 --> 00:01:55 time we were I was like probably in my
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00:01:59 --> 00:02:03 preaching my sermon years later in my
00:02:03 --> 00:02:06 30s and matter fact I was 37 to be exact
00:02:06 --> 00:02:08 and again we weren't friends I didn't
00:02:08 --> 00:02:11 know you but you saw the flyer online
00:02:11 --> 00:02:13 and you came that was so precious and I
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00:02:16 --> 00:02:18 through your transformation answering
00:02:18 --> 00:02:22 your call and also walking in the uh the
00:02:22 --> 00:02:23 the calling that the Lord had called you
00:02:23 --> 00:02:27 to so just to be able to look out I was
00:02:27 --> 00:02:30 so terrified too let me just say that
00:02:30 --> 00:02:31 had to appreciate the sermon you know
00:02:31 --> 00:02:33 you were still scared but to look out oh
00:02:33 --> 00:02:35 look I missed a little button look out
00:02:35 --> 00:02:37 and to see you there was like like oh
00:02:37 --> 00:02:38 like oh my goodness that was so nice and
00:02:38 --> 00:02:40 you said it you was like you know I saw
00:02:40 --> 00:02:41 flyer online I wanted to come support
00:02:41 --> 00:02:44 you so I never got to say thank you for
00:02:44 --> 00:02:46 that problem no problem no problem thank
00:02:46 --> 00:02:49 you so much thank you so much so I also
00:02:49 --> 00:02:51 watch you go through a transformation
00:02:51 --> 00:02:53 not just in Ministry not just
00:02:53 --> 00:02:55 spiritually but also
00:02:55 --> 00:02:58 physically yes which I think kind of
00:02:58 --> 00:03:01 goes hand in hand um because I remember
00:03:01 --> 00:03:03 when I first got saved and not well I
00:03:03 --> 00:03:04 well saved for real I've been saved
00:03:05 --> 00:03:07 probably forever but saved for real like
00:03:07 --> 00:03:08 you you answer it for real and you
00:03:08 --> 00:03:10 walking with integrity and you walking
00:03:10 --> 00:03:14 you know okay so um I begin to work out
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00:03:16 --> 00:03:19 mind body and soul together we done got
00:03:19 --> 00:03:21 a little heavy I got a little off track
00:03:21 --> 00:03:23 but I want to hear about just give me a
00:03:23 --> 00:03:25 testimon I know I said what we gonna
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00:03:26 --> 00:03:28 want to talk about I just really want to
00:03:28 --> 00:03:30 hear um I I know you do a lot in
00:03:30 --> 00:03:34 ministry as far as you know speaking to
00:03:34 --> 00:03:36 young men and things like that but let's
00:03:36 --> 00:03:38 just hear some of your testimony your
00:03:38 --> 00:03:40 from your birthing experience to being
00:03:40 --> 00:03:42 called into Ministry how we got here
00:03:42 --> 00:03:44 well I always well uh I used to go to
00:03:44 --> 00:03:46 church when I was when I was young let
00:03:46 --> 00:03:47 me stop real quick because you know I
00:03:48 --> 00:03:50 didn't jump the gun introduce
00:03:50 --> 00:03:53 yourself well first of all my name is
00:03:53 --> 00:03:56 Kenny brown or Kenneth Brown uh go by
00:03:56 --> 00:03:59 Minister Brown uh born and raised and
00:04:00 --> 00:04:04 womenon Delaware oh uh 47 years old
00:04:04 --> 00:04:08 about to turn 48 in March I had huh
00:04:08 --> 00:04:12 March March what March the 12 oh okay
00:04:12 --> 00:04:14 okay yeah March the 12th I had five I
00:04:14 --> 00:04:16 had five children I had one outside of
00:04:16 --> 00:04:20 my wife and I had four with my wife
00:04:21 --> 00:04:23 uh yeah and I came from I came from grew
00:04:23 --> 00:04:25 up in the projects in uh Wilmington
00:04:26 --> 00:04:28 Delaware uh Riverside projects and or
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00:04:31 --> 00:04:34 projects up over there uh like I said I
00:04:34 --> 00:04:37 was I used to go to church uh to about
00:04:37 --> 00:04:39 the age of 10 and that's when I heard a
00:04:39 --> 00:04:41 preacher say you know pretty much he
00:04:41 --> 00:04:43 tired of people coming to church two
00:04:43 --> 00:04:47 times a year you know that was on yeah
00:04:47 --> 00:04:49 that was on Easter and that was on
00:04:49 --> 00:04:52 Christmas you know with that I said Mom
00:04:52 --> 00:04:54 you heard what he said I'm the only two
00:04:54 --> 00:04:55 times I go so there's no need for me to
00:04:55 --> 00:04:59 go you know yeah so from that moment on
00:04:59 --> 00:05:01 honestly my mom didn't make me go to
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00:05:03 --> 00:05:07 just pretty much uh streets you know it
00:05:07 --> 00:05:09 it it wasn't uh I wasn't no gangster or
00:05:09 --> 00:05:11 gang banger or nothing like that you
00:05:11 --> 00:05:13 know that was toing guns or anything
00:05:13 --> 00:05:15 selling drugs like that or whatever
00:05:15 --> 00:05:17 however you know I was running the
00:05:17 --> 00:05:19 streets you know sneaking out the house
00:05:19 --> 00:05:22 you know not coming home for days and
00:05:22 --> 00:05:24 days on in you know all that kind of
00:05:24 --> 00:05:25 stuff you know what I mean the normal
00:05:25 --> 00:05:27 stuff the drinks so is that how you know
00:05:27 --> 00:05:28 me do you know from back in the day I
00:05:28 --> 00:05:31 know you from back de yeah yeah yeah
00:05:31 --> 00:05:35 okay well let's go there so how you know
00:05:35 --> 00:05:37 me it was more it was more in passing at
00:05:37 --> 00:05:39 like parties and stuff like that or
00:05:39 --> 00:05:41 whatever but it was more or less we
00:05:41 --> 00:05:43 really got to know each other when uh
00:05:43 --> 00:05:45 Raheem was playing basketball and when
00:05:45 --> 00:05:48 my nephew D was playing basketball and
00:05:48 --> 00:05:49 that's like I know you he was like I
00:05:49 --> 00:05:51 know you so then from there you know
00:05:51 --> 00:05:53 that's when we started getting cool
00:05:53 --> 00:05:56 again and you were going to agapy love
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00:05:59 --> 00:06:00 there I used to be out there pissing out
00:06:00 --> 00:06:03 bread and stuff I was getting it yeah I
00:06:03 --> 00:06:05 was getting it from the bakery out in
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00:06:08 --> 00:06:11 really uh familiar with um Pastor Butler
00:06:11 --> 00:06:13 which in reality I already went to
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00:06:19 --> 00:06:21 invited me in and then I started coming
00:06:21 --> 00:06:22 in and then that's when I saw you in
00:06:22 --> 00:06:25 there and I'm like okay oh said that you
00:06:25 --> 00:06:27 was G preaching your sermon you know I
00:06:27 --> 00:06:29 had to be there I had to pop up on you
00:06:29 --> 00:06:31 and not really tell you I was gonna be
00:06:31 --> 00:06:33 there cause I'm G tell you I when you
00:06:33 --> 00:06:35 said you didn't run the streets like
00:06:35 --> 00:06:37 that but I did you know I was I was
00:06:38 --> 00:06:40 selling drugs and and and fighting and
00:06:40 --> 00:06:41 going to jail so you know I like well
00:06:41 --> 00:06:44 how you really know me but so you said
00:06:44 --> 00:06:46 let's go back CU I I forget because
00:06:46 --> 00:06:49 really when you get to a place I think
00:06:49 --> 00:06:51 really and and I like to call it Amnesia
00:06:51 --> 00:06:53 like save Amnesia I
00:06:53 --> 00:06:56 forget I don't remember that I don't
00:06:56 --> 00:06:57 remember people I don't remember places
00:06:57 --> 00:07:00 I said I'm so saved I can't remember
00:07:00 --> 00:07:01 you know you remember I said I really
00:07:01 --> 00:07:05 really don't remember so let me ask but
00:07:05 --> 00:07:07 yes Pastor Butler I love her I love her
00:07:07 --> 00:07:09 shout out to Dr Butler my mother my
00:07:09 --> 00:07:11 teacher my leader yes she's she's just
00:07:11 --> 00:07:13 she just she a real one yes she will
00:07:13 --> 00:07:15 embrace you and she will bring you in
00:07:15 --> 00:07:17 and we need more of those Pastor because
00:07:17 --> 00:07:19 she don't care if you come two times a
00:07:19 --> 00:07:20 year yeah she gonna love you like you
00:07:20 --> 00:07:22 came every
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00:07:28 --> 00:07:29 outside the church when did you say you
00:07:29 --> 00:07:33 know what Lord I hear you there was
00:07:33 --> 00:07:35 church no it wasn't at the church it was
00:07:36 --> 00:07:39 actually I was in uh uh Riverside and a
00:07:39 --> 00:07:41 church I believe they were from the East
00:07:41 --> 00:07:44 side they came through and they were
00:07:44 --> 00:07:46 talking about prayer you know different
00:07:46 --> 00:07:47 things or whatever so I grabbed one of
00:07:47 --> 00:07:49 the young guys that was with me at the
00:07:49 --> 00:07:52 time he was probably like 13 or 14 I was
00:07:52 --> 00:07:55 about 17 18 and hey you know we we'll
00:07:55 --> 00:07:58 take some prayer you know no problem you
00:07:58 --> 00:07:59 know I mean you can't go wrong with no
00:07:59 --> 00:08:00 prayer
00:08:00 --> 00:08:01 you know and don't even know what was
00:08:01 --> 00:08:03 prayed you know whatever I always
00:08:03 --> 00:08:04 believe God in my heart because my
00:08:04 --> 00:08:06 grandom always made us pray you know I
00:08:06 --> 00:08:09 mean she until she passed when I was 10
00:08:09 --> 00:08:12 so uh I was always keen and find the
00:08:12 --> 00:08:15 prayer or whatever and then years later
00:08:15 --> 00:08:16 you know I just seen them prayers start
00:08:16 --> 00:08:20 to manifest yeah yeah the prayers of the
00:08:20 --> 00:08:22 righteous develop much I know she is so
00:08:22 --> 00:08:26 proud of you yeah yeah so is your wife
00:08:26 --> 00:08:27 was your wife already going to church
00:08:27 --> 00:08:29 and saved and all of that and I'm asking
00:08:29 --> 00:08:31 you that for a reason because once you
00:08:31 --> 00:08:33 said yes and answer the call to to
00:08:33 --> 00:08:35 Ministry was your wife already in
00:08:35 --> 00:08:38 Ministry no no she wasn't already in
00:08:38 --> 00:08:40 Ministry my wife is she's more of a
00:08:40 --> 00:08:42 laidback individual she like to be in
00:08:42 --> 00:08:44 the Forefront I really don't it's crazy
00:08:44 --> 00:08:45 because I really don't like to be in the
00:08:45 --> 00:08:47 Forefront I know and that's why I asked
00:08:47 --> 00:08:50 you that because most people think that
00:08:50 --> 00:08:53 um uh either vice versa like the man
00:08:53 --> 00:08:55 brings a woman to church or you know or
00:08:55 --> 00:08:58 vice versa you know so one person's
00:08:58 --> 00:08:59 already there doing it then the other
00:08:59 --> 00:09:01 ones like okay you know what I'mma get
00:09:01 --> 00:09:03 involved also in Ministry but you heard
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00:09:04 --> 00:09:08 call okay yep heard the call and uh then
00:09:08 --> 00:09:10 I started going to church over in New
00:09:10 --> 00:09:12 Jersey okay I started going to church in
00:09:12 --> 00:09:14 New Jersey and I would always you know
00:09:14 --> 00:09:17 sit in the back pews uh and you know
00:09:17 --> 00:09:19 wouldn't say much and it was one lady I
00:09:19 --> 00:09:20 don't even remember her name she would
00:09:21 --> 00:09:22 always be there she would always watch
00:09:22 --> 00:09:24 me and always smile at me and she would
00:09:24 --> 00:09:27 say you're going to be a minister she's
00:09:27 --> 00:09:29 like I can tell she said because you got
00:09:29 --> 00:09:32 a whole lot to say you just don't say
00:09:32 --> 00:09:34 anything because I was really trying to
00:09:34 --> 00:09:36 honestly you know we we I went to Jersey
00:09:36 --> 00:09:40 with uh Derek Reed D yeah he actually
00:09:40 --> 00:09:42 mentored me he brought me up you know I
00:09:42 --> 00:09:44 mean took me away from you know what I
00:09:44 --> 00:09:46 was used to you know because he actually
00:09:46 --> 00:09:48 came from there as well so uh he would
00:09:48 --> 00:09:50 take me to church you know we would go
00:09:50 --> 00:09:52 really Derek go ahead Derek yep Derek
00:09:52 --> 00:09:54 Reed yep he really you know I mean I
00:09:54 --> 00:09:56 always give him Kudos always tell him
00:09:56 --> 00:09:57 Derek I thank you you know I mean
00:09:57 --> 00:09:58 because at the time I really couldn't
00:09:58 --> 00:10:01 see my way out and he made that way out
00:10:01 --> 00:10:02 for me was like look man there's
00:10:02 --> 00:10:04 something different about you you know I
00:10:04 --> 00:10:06 always go to the barber shop you know
00:10:06 --> 00:10:09 and just hang around him you know in my
00:10:09 --> 00:10:11 in in like my C nothing days in a sense
00:10:11 --> 00:10:13 you know so he really helped me out he
00:10:13 --> 00:10:16 helped me out a whole lot but uh I'm G
00:10:16 --> 00:10:18 stop you right there just real quick
00:10:18 --> 00:10:20 just a commercial break because I want
00:10:20 --> 00:10:22 to give Derek a shout out because he
00:10:22 --> 00:10:23 said something the other day that he
00:10:23 --> 00:10:24 said I've helped so many people on their
00:10:24 --> 00:10:26 on the way but no one ever stopped to
00:10:26 --> 00:10:28 say thank you or you know come back to
00:10:28 --> 00:10:31 to you know just pay homage and I wanted
00:10:31 --> 00:10:33 to say this publicly I'm doing this
00:10:33 --> 00:10:35 podcast because I reached out to Derek
00:10:35 --> 00:10:37 and I like D I really want to start a
00:10:37 --> 00:10:39 podcast but I need to know you know give
00:10:39 --> 00:10:41 me some tips with what I need and he
00:10:41 --> 00:10:43 stopped his day on his way to the
00:10:43 --> 00:10:46 airport and took my call we all know
00:10:46 --> 00:10:47 dererk is a busy man he got a whole
00:10:47 --> 00:10:50 bunch of stuff going on and he begin
00:10:50 --> 00:10:53 just to pour into me and I'm telling you
00:10:53 --> 00:10:55 it was so much information so I want to
00:10:55 --> 00:10:57 give you a shout out there listen we
00:10:57 --> 00:10:59 listen we out here and we doing it
00:10:59 --> 00:11:02 because you showed up all right y back
00:11:02 --> 00:11:04 to our regular schedule program yeah so
00:11:05 --> 00:11:06 you know so like I said I was you know
00:11:06 --> 00:11:08 over in Jersey and that's when I really
00:11:08 --> 00:11:11 started to uh go to church and that was
00:11:11 --> 00:11:14 around 1996
00:11:15 --> 00:11:17 1997 somewhere somewhere around there I
00:11:17 --> 00:11:19 started going to church you know I got
00:11:19 --> 00:11:22 baptized you know what I mean and and
00:11:22 --> 00:11:23 everything and I just knew that you know
00:11:23 --> 00:11:27 that it was on me but it was it was me
00:11:27 --> 00:11:30 in a sense breaking away from who I was
00:11:30 --> 00:11:34 to become so I still brought that that
00:11:34 --> 00:11:36 kind of Street and uh toughness in a
00:11:37 --> 00:11:40 sense uh to the church so it was
00:11:40 --> 00:11:42 sometimes it was to my own demise
00:11:42 --> 00:11:44 because you know I would see certain
00:11:44 --> 00:11:46 things in scripture and I would bring it
00:11:46 --> 00:11:47 you know I mean to the pastor or
00:11:47 --> 00:11:50 whatever and it it would come across you
00:11:50 --> 00:11:53 know harsh and it wasn't sometimes yeah
00:11:53 --> 00:11:55 sometimes it wasn't in love because it
00:11:55 --> 00:11:56 was like no I see this and you know I
00:11:56 --> 00:11:58 mean you can't tell me it ain't this and
00:11:58 --> 00:12:02 you know that kind of thing and yeah
00:12:02 --> 00:12:04 so yeah it was a lot of friction in you
00:12:04 --> 00:12:06 know different places that I was at in
00:12:06 --> 00:12:08 the beginning you know but I'm saying
00:12:08 --> 00:12:09 really not because of you but really
00:12:09 --> 00:12:11 that you didn't I mean I think that that
00:12:11 --> 00:12:13 would that challenge there I think is
00:12:13 --> 00:12:14 inspiring because you reading the
00:12:14 --> 00:12:16 scripture like oh he reading the
00:12:16 --> 00:12:18 scriptures and he has questions meaning
00:12:18 --> 00:12:20 that it had to prick you for you to have
00:12:20 --> 00:12:23 questions to ask so for somebody
00:12:23 --> 00:12:25 especially somebody from the streets and
00:12:25 --> 00:12:28 for you for you all that aren't from uh
00:12:28 --> 00:12:30 uh where we live from Delaware
00:12:30 --> 00:12:31 um the places he's talking about are
00:12:31 --> 00:12:34 communities here that may have been
00:12:34 --> 00:12:36 inner city communities if you know so
00:12:36 --> 00:12:37 for lack of a better term if you all
00:12:37 --> 00:12:39 want to imagine um where they may not
00:12:39 --> 00:12:41 have been a lot of
00:12:41 --> 00:12:43 resources that a lot of people are may
00:12:43 --> 00:12:44 be you know privileged to so to have a
00:12:45 --> 00:12:46 young kid who is just like listen I
00:12:46 --> 00:12:48 don't know but this don't make sense to
00:12:48 --> 00:12:51 me I mean I think that would be such a
00:12:51 --> 00:12:55 um a pure canvas to pour into in in a
00:12:55 --> 00:12:57 pure Spirit just to begin just to you
00:12:57 --> 00:13:00 know just to pray over and pour into did
00:13:00 --> 00:13:02 he not did you you don't like they just
00:13:02 --> 00:13:04 your leaders embrace you and kind of
00:13:04 --> 00:13:06 pour back into you no not saying they
00:13:06 --> 00:13:09 didn't I was say yes yes they did okay
00:13:09 --> 00:13:11 you know particularly particularly one
00:13:11 --> 00:13:14 that would be Bishop uh Ray Taylor okay
00:13:14 --> 00:13:16 with new New Covenant Christian
00:13:16 --> 00:13:17 Fellowship yeah he definitely he
00:13:18 --> 00:13:19 definitely did he definitely did he
00:13:19 --> 00:13:21 poured into me you know as much as he
00:13:21 --> 00:13:25 could you know and then you know as as I
00:13:25 --> 00:13:26 seen that you know like tension was
00:13:26 --> 00:13:29 getting just to be a little bit too much
00:13:29 --> 00:13:32 you know I stepped away you know what I
00:13:32 --> 00:13:34 mean so you know because I don't want to
00:13:34 --> 00:13:36 kick against the Pricks you know I mean
00:13:36 --> 00:13:38 and then now God is angry at me because
00:13:38 --> 00:13:41 I'm stopping in a sense the way that you
00:13:41 --> 00:13:43 know his house or the house is supposed
00:13:43 --> 00:13:46 to be set up you know so I would rather
00:13:46 --> 00:13:49 remove myself from the situation versus
00:13:49 --> 00:13:50 you know I mean I'm seeing God's Wrath
00:13:50 --> 00:13:52 come upon me right what kind of
00:13:52 --> 00:13:54 questions would you having Kenny no I'm
00:13:54 --> 00:13:56 saying they were biblical questions but
00:13:56 --> 00:13:58 at the same time you know the questions
00:13:58 --> 00:14:00 you know things may be out of order
00:14:00 --> 00:14:03 because now you're not just say uh you
00:14:03 --> 00:14:05 may be bringing things up in a
00:14:05 --> 00:14:07 challenging way so I we bring so your
00:14:08 --> 00:14:10 delivery you think your delivery
00:14:10 --> 00:14:12 definitely wasn't graceful it was
00:14:12 --> 00:14:13 definitely off and I wouldn't you know
00:14:14 --> 00:14:16 just say step away and you know ask
00:14:16 --> 00:14:18 questions offline okay me and him maybe
00:14:19 --> 00:14:21 Bible study you know stuff like that so
00:14:21 --> 00:14:23 you know that looks like it's you know
00:14:23 --> 00:14:25 oh he's challenging you his authority
00:14:25 --> 00:14:26 and then that could be you know I mean
00:14:26 --> 00:14:28 spread amongst the other so now it looks
00:14:28 --> 00:14:30 like it's unleavened bread you know what
00:14:30 --> 00:14:31 I mean well you w getting up in the
00:14:31 --> 00:14:33 middle of service saying I got a
00:14:33 --> 00:14:36 question no no no not like no no no not
00:14:36 --> 00:14:38 like that no no no not like that but it
00:14:38 --> 00:14:40 was it was beginning to you know I mean
00:14:40 --> 00:14:42 create stuff so uh you know so like I
00:14:42 --> 00:14:44 said you know just some rough edges you
00:14:44 --> 00:14:46 know I mean for uh many and many of
00:14:46 --> 00:14:48 years you know what I mean and over the
00:14:48 --> 00:14:51 years I really begin to you know I mean
00:14:51 --> 00:14:54 allow God's grace in his Mercy to really
00:14:54 --> 00:14:56 just you know I mean just just really
00:14:56 --> 00:14:58 you know I mean just embrace it and and
00:14:58 --> 00:15:00 come into you I mean a new being you
00:15:00 --> 00:15:02 know I mean and and really understand
00:15:02 --> 00:15:04 you know I mean wisdom and you know I
00:15:04 --> 00:15:06 mean how to talk when to talk you know I
00:15:06 --> 00:15:08 mean when to not speak when to keep
00:15:08 --> 00:15:09 quiet you know what I mean just
00:15:09 --> 00:15:11 different things like that so I'm at a
00:15:11 --> 00:15:14 totally different places but I like that
00:15:14 --> 00:15:16 though because the Bible tells us come
00:15:16 --> 00:15:18 as you are and people always think that
00:15:18 --> 00:15:19 mean come with your clothes on and half
00:15:19 --> 00:15:21 naked but that's not what it means it
00:15:21 --> 00:15:23 said come the way you are so that the
00:15:23 --> 00:15:25 Lord you can be transformed we are the
00:15:25 --> 00:15:27 Lord you know he said I'm I am the
00:15:27 --> 00:15:29 Potter you are the clay so he molds us
00:15:29 --> 00:15:31 you know the Lord's he's he molds us and
00:15:31 --> 00:15:33 he continues to crush us and to break us
00:15:33 --> 00:15:35 and there is a point where we have to be
00:15:35 --> 00:15:36 questioning because I'm going to tell
00:15:36 --> 00:15:37 you when I got the
00:15:37 --> 00:15:40 chur I think I got put out one time at
00:15:40 --> 00:15:41 church I was in church fighting and
00:15:41 --> 00:15:42 everything yeah I be fighting in the
00:15:42 --> 00:15:45 parking lot yeah I have no cof because
00:15:45 --> 00:15:47 you know I was a gangster and I'm coming
00:15:47 --> 00:15:49 to church and you know that's still my
00:15:49 --> 00:15:51 mentality so if I see any of it like if
00:15:52 --> 00:15:53 you know especially you know because you
00:15:53 --> 00:15:54 got some people who don't always embrace
00:15:54 --> 00:15:55 you don't always want to act right CU
00:15:55 --> 00:15:58 everybody ain't safe you know so I I did
00:15:58 --> 00:15:59 not know how to conduct myself
00:15:59 --> 00:16:01 appropriately I'm a PK but I'm like
00:16:01 --> 00:16:03 listen uhuh you act like you from the
00:16:03 --> 00:16:05 streets go outside and like you can't do
00:16:05 --> 00:16:07 that here baby you know like the same
00:16:07 --> 00:16:09 thing you would do is someone walked in
00:16:09 --> 00:16:12 with you know half skirts on or you know
00:16:12 --> 00:16:16 a two L cut shirt um being taught and
00:16:16 --> 00:16:17 being groomed with
00:16:17 --> 00:16:19 love you know baby we got a little
00:16:19 --> 00:16:21 sweater for you you know we got your a
00:16:21 --> 00:16:23 little outfit today you know come on in
00:16:23 --> 00:16:24 the back SE somebody somebody stop by we
00:16:24 --> 00:16:26 wanted to give you a little present you
00:16:26 --> 00:16:28 know you know when you acting oh you
00:16:28 --> 00:16:29 know I heard what you said but come on
00:16:29 --> 00:16:30 in here bab let me just pray with you
00:16:30 --> 00:16:32 you know God going to do it you know and
00:16:32 --> 00:16:33 continue to do it with love that's
00:16:33 --> 00:16:35 that's why P I was with Pastor Butler
00:16:35 --> 00:16:38 for so she loved me and she and she be
00:16:38 --> 00:16:40 to groom me and mold me with love
00:16:40 --> 00:16:43 because I came raw and I came you know
00:16:43 --> 00:16:46 with no filter and and didn't know what
00:16:46 --> 00:16:47 to say and when to say it and how to say
00:16:47 --> 00:16:50 it but to have someone saying listen I'm
00:16:50 --> 00:16:54 going to allow the Lord to do the work
00:16:54 --> 00:16:56 and I'm G to love you through the
00:16:56 --> 00:16:58 process you know and continue to mold
00:16:58 --> 00:17:00 you and chastise you cuz that's
00:17:00 --> 00:17:02 important too as your leader to be able
00:17:02 --> 00:17:04 to get some you know get some correction
00:17:04 --> 00:17:07 and to be able to pull you aside but I I
00:17:07 --> 00:17:08 think that we have to go back to that
00:17:08 --> 00:17:10 place though you know in church and I
00:17:10 --> 00:17:11 don't know why we got off the topic but
00:17:12 --> 00:17:13 to that place where people can be
00:17:13 --> 00:17:16 embraced if you walk in you know uh when
00:17:16 --> 00:17:19 I grew up in a time where when you had
00:17:19 --> 00:17:21 revivals people came in off the street
00:17:21 --> 00:17:23 corner you know with their cigarettes
00:17:23 --> 00:17:24 and their liquor
00:17:24 --> 00:17:27 bottle and they came to the Altar and we
00:17:27 --> 00:17:29 we laid on the altar went to work you
00:17:29 --> 00:17:31 know we would see the mothers up there
00:17:31 --> 00:17:33 with the with with the white sheets they
00:17:33 --> 00:17:34 up there and they just they they tering
00:17:35 --> 00:17:37 with you I mean the the room smelling
00:17:37 --> 00:17:39 likeo because people don't walked in
00:17:39 --> 00:17:41 homeless you know but they didn't care
00:17:41 --> 00:17:43 they they labored they held you they
00:17:43 --> 00:17:45 they will hold you and embrace you and
00:17:46 --> 00:17:47 you might go back out and do the same
00:17:47 --> 00:17:48 thing but when you came in there it was
00:17:48 --> 00:17:51 a hospital you know and we don't see
00:17:51 --> 00:17:54 that anymore you know we see
00:17:54 --> 00:17:56 security I just wanted to throw that out
00:17:56 --> 00:17:57 there okay so yes I don't want you I
00:17:57 --> 00:17:59 don't want you to feel like you was out
00:17:59 --> 00:18:02 of line cuz you was just you know listen
00:18:02 --> 00:18:04 I don't know I don't know what I'm doing
00:18:04 --> 00:18:07 here I need my go yeah I need my guide
00:18:07 --> 00:18:10 me yeah but look at you now yeah that
00:18:10 --> 00:18:12 yeah awesome awesome awesome awesome
00:18:12 --> 00:18:13 awesome yeah
00:18:13 --> 00:18:17 awesome so when you
00:18:17 --> 00:18:19 um what does hear and the call sound
00:18:19 --> 00:18:22 like look like for you we all have a
00:18:22 --> 00:18:24 different did you always know the Lord
00:18:24 --> 00:18:29 had called you to um to be a minister
00:18:29 --> 00:18:30 you know crazy you know what you're
00:18:30 --> 00:18:32 calling was that she say go ahead I
00:18:32 --> 00:18:34 listen it's crazy right because uh now
00:18:34 --> 00:18:36 we gonna go back to you know as we say
00:18:36 --> 00:18:40 BC days right before Christ right so uh
00:18:40 --> 00:18:42 I could handle liquor you know I could
00:18:42 --> 00:18:46 drink too but smoking weed was really
00:18:46 --> 00:18:49 not my thing so every time I would every
00:18:49 --> 00:18:51 time I would smoke weed I would always
00:18:51 --> 00:18:53 you know people you know you hallucinate
00:18:53 --> 00:18:57 right so my hallucination was always I
00:18:57 --> 00:19:00 could be with you know group of friends
00:19:00 --> 00:19:01 and all of a sudden I'm telling them
00:19:01 --> 00:19:02 about their future life I'm telling
00:19:02 --> 00:19:03 about their
00:19:03 --> 00:19:05 life they be like yo don't get you know
00:19:05 --> 00:19:07 don't smoke weed with KB man because he
00:19:07 --> 00:19:10 gonna start telling
00:19:10 --> 00:19:13 you so it you know I mean it's you know
00:19:13 --> 00:19:14 we always say that we always get like an
00:19:14 --> 00:19:17 inkling of who we're gonna become you
00:19:17 --> 00:19:18 know I mean before we get into you know
00:19:18 --> 00:19:21 I mean get into Christ and I kind of
00:19:21 --> 00:19:23 seen it just through that where it was
00:19:23 --> 00:19:26 like yo I don't need to be high to
00:19:26 --> 00:19:31 already see what I always see yeah so
00:19:31 --> 00:19:32 then that's when it was like once you
00:19:32 --> 00:19:33 know I mean the pieces start to fall
00:19:34 --> 00:19:35 into place started to really you know I
00:19:35 --> 00:19:37 mean like I said go to church with Derek
00:19:37 --> 00:19:38 and stuff like that and it was like yo
00:19:38 --> 00:19:39 and I started cracking open the book and
00:19:39 --> 00:19:44 I'm like whoa so this was always who I
00:19:44 --> 00:19:47 was gonna become that's good right there
00:19:47 --> 00:19:50 in a different way so then that's that's
00:19:50 --> 00:19:52 how I kind of knew because it was like
00:19:52 --> 00:19:53 going back and then once I cracked it
00:19:53 --> 00:19:56 open and trust me I tried I tried
00:19:56 --> 00:20:00 different religions I did
00:20:00 --> 00:20:03 I just didn't know what was what you
00:20:03 --> 00:20:05 know I looked at Islam I looked at je
00:20:05 --> 00:20:07 Witnesses you know looked at Hebrew
00:20:07 --> 00:20:09 Israelites I looked at everything you
00:20:09 --> 00:20:12 know I mean and nothing grabbed me and
00:20:12 --> 00:20:14 really pricked my heart to to the love
00:20:14 --> 00:20:17 that was in there even though you know I
00:20:17 --> 00:20:20 mean be be be before that there was
00:20:20 --> 00:20:22 really not too much love because my
00:20:22 --> 00:20:25 mouth was my mouth was filthy my mouth
00:20:25 --> 00:20:28 was filthy so you know it was one of
00:20:28 --> 00:20:29 those like you know like how could you
00:20:29 --> 00:20:32 be so loving and so caring in a sense
00:20:32 --> 00:20:34 and man you the same one that was just
00:20:34 --> 00:20:35 cussing you know I mean cussing people
00:20:36 --> 00:20:38 out and this and that and you know so
00:20:38 --> 00:20:40 like I said it really it really pricked
00:20:40 --> 00:20:42 me and that's what really draw me was
00:20:42 --> 00:20:47 the love that and in in my essence of
00:20:47 --> 00:20:51 who I am is straight love you know so
00:20:51 --> 00:20:52 that's what you know I mean so that's
00:20:52 --> 00:20:55 what draw me but that's how I knew that
00:20:55 --> 00:20:56 I knew I was called to a particular
00:20:56 --> 00:20:59 place but then when I came came into the
00:20:59 --> 00:21:03 church World uhuh that's when the real
00:21:03 --> 00:21:06 battle started yeah like I said I would
00:21:06 --> 00:21:09 see stuff I would question stuff I knew
00:21:09 --> 00:21:13 I knew what was but at the same time it
00:21:13 --> 00:21:16 was the enemy that I didn't know about
00:21:16 --> 00:21:18 like that spiritually that was really
00:21:18 --> 00:21:21 beating me down with with kind of push
00:21:21 --> 00:21:23 me away from the church and you know I
00:21:23 --> 00:21:26 mean really not embrace the calling
00:21:26 --> 00:21:27 because you know it's pretty much like
00:21:27 --> 00:21:29 man you're too rough or you know I mean
00:21:29 --> 00:21:31 you're this or you're that or you know I
00:21:31 --> 00:21:33 mean he's not pretty much like he not
00:21:33 --> 00:21:34 dressing apart and he not this and he
00:21:34 --> 00:21:37 not that you know so that stuff kept me
00:21:37 --> 00:21:40 away for a many many years a many of
00:21:40 --> 00:21:43 years you know but now it's just like
00:21:43 --> 00:21:45 man listen it's all or nothing because
00:21:45 --> 00:21:46 you know it's really not about the
00:21:46 --> 00:21:48 building you know at the same time
00:21:48 --> 00:21:50 because God can call you to an
00:21:50 --> 00:21:51 Evangelistic Ministry you know I mean
00:21:51 --> 00:21:53 something sort of going on the podcast
00:21:53 --> 00:21:56 right now so the streets you know I mean
00:21:56 --> 00:21:57 a lot of times the churches don't want
00:21:57 --> 00:21:59 to go to the street because they're
00:21:59 --> 00:22:01 afraid they're afraid of the people
00:22:01 --> 00:22:03 being real you know we said that we're
00:22:03 --> 00:22:04 not supposed to have any fear because
00:22:04 --> 00:22:06 fear has torment you know what I mean
00:22:06 --> 00:22:08 and we can't operate in toal love if we
00:22:08 --> 00:22:11 operate in fear right y so you know I
00:22:11 --> 00:22:13 mean so that was my thing going to the
00:22:13 --> 00:22:15 streets you know out there handing out
00:22:15 --> 00:22:18 tracks witnessing you know I mean doing
00:22:18 --> 00:22:20 things of that nature why because I mean
00:22:20 --> 00:22:23 the Harvest is plentiful you know I mean
00:22:23 --> 00:22:25 labor are few that are few you know I
00:22:25 --> 00:22:29 mean that that became my call of going
00:22:29 --> 00:22:32 out to those that you know I mean people
00:22:32 --> 00:22:34 were pushing to the side oh no they're
00:22:34 --> 00:22:35 Castaways we don't want to deal with
00:22:35 --> 00:22:38 them you know you know that became my
00:22:38 --> 00:22:39 thing where it was like outside of the
00:22:39 --> 00:22:42 church walls I can do that all day long
00:22:42 --> 00:22:44 because in here it seems like I'm being
00:22:44 --> 00:22:46 ostracized anyway you know I mean the
00:22:46 --> 00:22:48 things that I speak out of my mouth you
00:22:48 --> 00:22:50 know I mean the way I may perceive the
00:22:50 --> 00:22:51 Bible you know and it's not nothing
00:22:52 --> 00:22:53 that's in a heretic way you know what I
00:22:53 --> 00:22:55 mean it's just that your thought
00:22:55 --> 00:22:58 processes and how you break it down is
00:22:58 --> 00:23:01 not a religious mindset it's in a way
00:23:01 --> 00:23:02 that you know I mean is trying to
00:23:02 --> 00:23:05 embrace all but still keep the Integrity
00:23:05 --> 00:23:08 of the Bible you know yeah
00:23:08 --> 00:23:11 yeah understanding who you are is so
00:23:11 --> 00:23:14 important so important um because if you
00:23:14 --> 00:23:16 don't know who you are they try to put
00:23:16 --> 00:23:19 you in a box and tell you who you are
00:23:19 --> 00:23:23 and I'm saying they as people you know
00:23:23 --> 00:23:26 um and I'm we're g to have a talk
00:23:26 --> 00:23:29 offline about that but um
00:23:29 --> 00:23:31 it's so important to know who you are
00:23:31 --> 00:23:33 and it's hard because the gift you have
00:23:33 --> 00:23:35 is very unique I'm gonna talk about that
00:23:35 --> 00:23:36 too because I know that you don't know
00:23:36 --> 00:23:39 what it is yet and most people don't
00:23:39 --> 00:23:41 understand it so when they see it
00:23:41 --> 00:23:42 they're confused by
00:23:43 --> 00:23:46 it the prophetic is different it's just
00:23:46 --> 00:23:50 different and you can't um the Lord
00:23:50 --> 00:23:52 teaches the prophet
00:23:52 --> 00:23:54 himself you know you can go to school
00:23:54 --> 00:23:56 the prophet you can being around Prophet
00:23:56 --> 00:23:58 strengthens you but the Lord teaches the
00:23:58 --> 00:23:59 prophet himself and people see the
00:23:59 --> 00:24:02 prophetic anointing it comes to
00:24:02 --> 00:24:05 disrupt it comes to shake up it comes to
00:24:05 --> 00:24:08 question it comes to set
00:24:08 --> 00:24:11 order and that is
00:24:11 --> 00:24:13 intimidating to most
00:24:13 --> 00:24:15 people you know what I'm saying and the
00:24:15 --> 00:24:17 reason I know that that's what you're
00:24:17 --> 00:24:19 calling is because whenever you took
00:24:19 --> 00:24:20 another
00:24:20 --> 00:24:24 Spirit it begin to rise whenever I drink
00:24:24 --> 00:24:25 I don't drink anymore and I I drink my
00:24:25 --> 00:24:27 girlfriend always send me to the bar why
00:24:27 --> 00:24:28 don't you go get us some drinks can
00:24:28 --> 00:24:30 prophesy to everybody but it wasn't the
00:24:30 --> 00:24:34 Holy Spirit but it was a spirit spirit
00:24:34 --> 00:24:36 amen yes it was a spirit but it was in
00:24:36 --> 00:24:38 the Lord you know because gifts come out
00:24:38 --> 00:24:42 repentance yep yeah so um so so what a
00:24:42 --> 00:24:44 what a blessing though and the prayers
00:24:44 --> 00:24:47 of Grandma Honey the prayers listen and
00:24:47 --> 00:24:50 I'm so glad that prayers don't run out
00:24:50 --> 00:24:52 they don't run out I saw you preaching
00:24:52 --> 00:24:54 um uh you were on a platform I don't
00:24:54 --> 00:24:56 know was a men's day or what you were
00:24:56 --> 00:24:58 doing and I saw the men that before you
00:24:58 --> 00:25:00 and I saw you come up and preach and it
00:25:00 --> 00:25:02 is a different sound because when you
00:25:02 --> 00:25:04 have uh uh first of all the prophetic is
00:25:04 --> 00:25:05 is different anyway the sounds different
00:25:05 --> 00:25:07 it moves different it feels different it
00:25:07 --> 00:25:09 dresses different this is different
00:25:09 --> 00:25:11 right so this is this a different feel
00:25:11 --> 00:25:14 um and it's an office that um is very
00:25:14 --> 00:25:17 unique you know the Lord is is just okay
00:25:17 --> 00:25:20 um but you were teaching and it was so
00:25:20 --> 00:25:22 profound and it was raw and I can tell
00:25:22 --> 00:25:24 that they were so engaged I said oh this
00:25:24 --> 00:25:26 is for this is for them you know it was
00:25:26 --> 00:25:28 at a place where everyone could receive
00:25:28 --> 00:25:30 receive it not just receive it but
00:25:30 --> 00:25:31 believe it and know that okay this is
00:25:31 --> 00:25:34 authentic and he really means it and I I
00:25:34 --> 00:25:38 really um I really admire that in you
00:25:38 --> 00:25:40 that Ministry of just saying listen I'm
00:25:40 --> 00:25:42 gonna be myself because that's what I
00:25:42 --> 00:25:44 see so hearing this I'm like oh really
00:25:44 --> 00:25:45 I'm trying to chat you because I just
00:25:46 --> 00:25:48 see you being yourself you're not the
00:25:48 --> 00:25:50 same person that I remember then but I
00:25:50 --> 00:25:52 still see you being yourself and being
00:25:52 --> 00:25:55 authentic to who you are and saying
00:25:55 --> 00:25:57 listen I love the Lord and this is who I
00:25:57 --> 00:25:58 am you know
00:25:58 --> 00:26:00 um in and the words that you always give
00:26:00 --> 00:26:01 is always very profound and very
00:26:01 --> 00:26:03 heartfelt I thought you were GNA sing
00:26:03 --> 00:26:05 one day I said okay they can sing no I
00:26:05 --> 00:26:07 ain't got that in me I listen I can
00:26:07 --> 00:26:10 listen I pump
00:26:10 --> 00:26:14 fake sing I know what
00:26:14 --> 00:26:16 you yeah but that's good that's good so
00:26:16 --> 00:26:17 you say and your children do your
00:26:17 --> 00:26:19 children go to so as as the head of your
00:26:20 --> 00:26:21 house the men of your house so on
00:26:21 --> 00:26:24 Sundays everybody going to church as of
00:26:24 --> 00:26:26 as of right now I don't have a physical
00:26:26 --> 00:26:28 church ministry that I go to said that
00:26:28 --> 00:26:31 okay however I do I do sit up under
00:26:31 --> 00:26:34 Apostle TB Walker and he does he does a
00:26:34 --> 00:26:38 Facebook Ministry his ministry is Faith
00:26:38 --> 00:26:40 okay okay okay all right of Faith so he
00:26:40 --> 00:26:43 is my he right he's my go-to guy you
00:26:43 --> 00:26:44 know I Tex him you know I mean if
00:26:45 --> 00:26:46 there's a funeral service that somebody
00:26:46 --> 00:26:48 might ask me to perform or there's a
00:26:48 --> 00:26:51 preaching engagement you know I mean
00:26:51 --> 00:26:55 anything huh you doing funerals yes I
00:26:55 --> 00:26:58 have not yet done a funeral yes I
00:26:58 --> 00:27:01 because it's to me it's still it's still
00:27:01 --> 00:27:03 for me it's not I don't do it in a
00:27:04 --> 00:27:08 traditional manner okay know yeah C I
00:27:08 --> 00:27:10 don't know it's it's yeah it's just
00:27:10 --> 00:27:12 different I just love it because it's
00:27:12 --> 00:27:13 more or less you're still you're still
00:27:13 --> 00:27:16 talking to the family but then you're
00:27:16 --> 00:27:19 still also presenting Christ in in in in
00:27:19 --> 00:27:22 a way that it can be intertwined with
00:27:22 --> 00:27:24 you know I mean the deceased family
00:27:24 --> 00:27:27 member at the time yes yes you know so I
00:27:27 --> 00:27:28 I just you know I just allow the Lord to
00:27:28 --> 00:27:30 just lead me give me the word you know I
00:27:30 --> 00:27:33 mean to speak and and just go and just
00:27:33 --> 00:27:36 and just go as he leads me right yeah
00:27:36 --> 00:27:38 but I but I love it because it's to me
00:27:38 --> 00:27:40 it's still Outreach you know it's
00:27:41 --> 00:27:43 different it's different than talking to
00:27:43 --> 00:27:45 the a church body because you're not
00:27:45 --> 00:27:47 gonna get you know I mean an
00:27:47 --> 00:27:49 amen and this is a crowd of people that
00:27:49 --> 00:27:51 may never come to church so this is a
00:27:51 --> 00:27:52 word that you're G that's going to save
00:27:53 --> 00:27:55 lives people gonna get saved this might
00:27:55 --> 00:27:57 be the only word they hear all year long
00:27:57 --> 00:27:59 because of the C say situation
00:27:59 --> 00:28:01 absolutely and then you get a lot of
00:28:01 --> 00:28:03 blank stairs you know they
00:28:03 --> 00:28:05 just like this like you know it's pretty
00:28:05 --> 00:28:07 much like the hands folded like okay all
00:28:07 --> 00:28:09 right what you got what you got to say
00:28:09 --> 00:28:11 you know this and that you know I mean I
00:28:11 --> 00:28:12 been to funerals where you going and
00:28:12 --> 00:28:14 talk about Jesus and how we need to come
00:28:14 --> 00:28:15 to Christ and then you're gonna come up
00:28:15 --> 00:28:17 here and you're gonna say hey okay
00:28:17 --> 00:28:19 everybody come on up here and see this
00:28:19 --> 00:28:20 is what Johnny
00:28:20 --> 00:28:23 did I'm I'm you know I mean I'm I'mma
00:28:23 --> 00:28:25 lead as God leads and you know I mean if
00:28:25 --> 00:28:28 you know he knows what's in the building
00:28:29 --> 00:28:31 yes he knows what's in the building I
00:28:31 --> 00:28:33 don't have to try to manufacture what it
00:28:33 --> 00:28:35 was already done I'm gonna be made like
00:28:35 --> 00:28:37 you said I'm Different I've always been
00:28:37 --> 00:28:39 different you know what I mean since
00:28:39 --> 00:28:40 when I was coming up as a kid I would
00:28:40 --> 00:28:43 walk around before they had Yeezys with
00:28:43 --> 00:28:44 no shoe strings I was already walking
00:28:44 --> 00:28:47 around with shoes with no Sho strings
00:28:47 --> 00:28:49 I'm going to school with shoes with no
00:28:49 --> 00:28:51 Sho strings I'm putting on two different
00:28:51 --> 00:28:53 color sneakers to go to school different
00:28:53 --> 00:28:55 things like that so I always knew that I
00:28:55 --> 00:28:57 was different and that's what God still
00:28:57 --> 00:28:58 he still
00:28:58 --> 00:29:01 uh gets that out of me which is that
00:29:01 --> 00:29:03 being peculiar being different you know
00:29:03 --> 00:29:04 what I mean not looking like everybody
00:29:04 --> 00:29:06 else and as you said early I really
00:29:06 --> 00:29:09 believe that that's the challenging part
00:29:09 --> 00:29:11 to a lot of people is because yo he's
00:29:11 --> 00:29:13 not traditional he's not traditional
00:29:13 --> 00:29:15 he's coming to different way because in
00:29:15 --> 00:29:17 reality you know when we really look at
00:29:17 --> 00:29:20 it God is setting us up in in a
00:29:20 --> 00:29:22 different era in a different time frame
00:29:22 --> 00:29:24 right so the people that he wants to
00:29:24 --> 00:29:26 speak to now they don't want to hear
00:29:26 --> 00:29:28 traditional Church these young kids now
00:29:28 --> 00:29:29 the next five years they still they
00:29:29 --> 00:29:32 brewing and sissing right now so they
00:29:32 --> 00:29:34 don't even see the respect level of
00:29:34 --> 00:29:36 Elders or anything so a lot of times we
00:29:36 --> 00:29:39 gota we still look like them we still
00:29:39 --> 00:29:41 talk like them but at the same time we
00:29:41 --> 00:29:43 still got a standard that we're still
00:29:43 --> 00:29:46 giving them right so we gotta come a
00:29:46 --> 00:29:47 different way and not saying that we
00:29:47 --> 00:29:50 allow them to take over you know I mean
00:29:50 --> 00:29:52 once they get saved and come into the
00:29:52 --> 00:29:54 church that's not that's not the goal
00:29:54 --> 00:29:57 you know what I mean however we still
00:29:57 --> 00:29:59 reach them where they're at but we still
00:29:59 --> 00:30:02 got that standard of Holiness of what we
00:30:02 --> 00:30:04 believe in right so you know that that
00:30:04 --> 00:30:06 that's that difference that you know I
00:30:06 --> 00:30:08 mean I see God is raising me up for you
00:30:08 --> 00:30:10 know I mean for possibly for why I say
00:30:10 --> 00:30:13 possibly for this particular time and I
00:30:13 --> 00:30:14 think that's important what you say it
00:30:14 --> 00:30:16 because somebody has to fish we are
00:30:16 --> 00:30:19 fishes of men you know and and the Lord
00:30:19 --> 00:30:21 teaches us how to go and catch his fish
00:30:21 --> 00:30:23 it's a Remnant assigned to you to do
00:30:23 --> 00:30:26 just what you do like I I am I'm I'm a
00:30:26 --> 00:30:29 prophet I I'm an intercessor but I teach
00:30:29 --> 00:30:31 and I love to teach the Bible the Bible
00:30:31 --> 00:30:33 is I mean I love to teach it's my it's
00:30:33 --> 00:30:35 it's my gift it's where I'm at um and
00:30:35 --> 00:30:36 when I I want to teach the whole thing
00:30:36 --> 00:30:37 right but the Lord said now I want you
00:30:37 --> 00:30:39 to teach on this because that's the
00:30:39 --> 00:30:43 remnant that's assigned to me you know I
00:30:43 --> 00:30:45 have two Ministries that I Shepherd over
00:30:45 --> 00:30:47 and um the battlefield of intercessors
00:30:47 --> 00:30:48 and then the uh round table which is a
00:30:49 --> 00:30:52 global Ministry um but it is it is very
00:30:52 --> 00:30:55 specific you know what I mean because
00:30:55 --> 00:30:57 there is a Remnant that's assigned to
00:30:57 --> 00:31:00 you you know so who you are is because
00:31:00 --> 00:31:02 of the remnant that's assigned to you
00:31:02 --> 00:31:05 for you to go out and to bring back into
00:31:05 --> 00:31:07 um the Lord and the way that you do it
00:31:07 --> 00:31:09 is the way that you were supposed to do
00:31:09 --> 00:31:11 it ordained to do it called and
00:31:11 --> 00:31:13 qualified to do it so that God's people
00:31:13 --> 00:31:15 can come and they can be saved and I
00:31:15 --> 00:31:17 heal and deliver and I always look at
00:31:17 --> 00:31:19 like you were saying about being pretty
00:31:19 --> 00:31:20 much being intentional I look at you
00:31:20 --> 00:31:23 know I look at Paul you know Paul went
00:31:23 --> 00:31:26 to you know he went to the
00:31:26 --> 00:31:28 Gentiles you know and he was like look
00:31:28 --> 00:31:30 Peter you go over and you know go and do
00:31:30 --> 00:31:31 your thing you know what I mean but
00:31:31 --> 00:31:33 listen I'm going to I'm going to those
00:31:33 --> 00:31:35 you know those Castaways because that's
00:31:35 --> 00:31:38 my calling and I always I always see
00:31:38 --> 00:31:40 myself as like a Paul you know I mean
00:31:40 --> 00:31:42 when I started reading the Bible I
00:31:42 --> 00:31:45 always read Paul all his letters like yo
00:31:45 --> 00:31:47 this guy is like really like fascinating
00:31:47 --> 00:31:49 to me you know I wouldn't dig into a
00:31:49 --> 00:31:51 whole lot everything but I would dig
00:31:51 --> 00:31:55 into his I was a David girl yeah go
00:31:55 --> 00:31:58 ahead you dig you dig into Paul yeah so
00:31:58 --> 00:32:00 you know so so that's like my passion
00:32:00 --> 00:32:02 when it when it when it comes down to it
00:32:02 --> 00:32:04 and and I see myself in that kind of
00:32:04 --> 00:32:07 mold of going out and always reaching
00:32:07 --> 00:32:10 the loss you know what I mean and having
00:32:10 --> 00:32:12 that kind of heart so you know I mean
00:32:12 --> 00:32:15 being able to speak to those situations
00:32:15 --> 00:32:18 right so you know Paul you know I mean
00:32:18 --> 00:32:20 Paul said I became all things to all men
00:32:20 --> 00:32:23 right come on so you know a lot of times
00:32:23 --> 00:32:25 you know I used to sit back and I like
00:32:25 --> 00:32:29 God why me you know and then why not you
00:32:29 --> 00:32:31 why because a lot of things that you
00:32:31 --> 00:32:34 have to experience is only for the
00:32:34 --> 00:32:36 people in the level that you got to go
00:32:36 --> 00:32:38 and get so you know because people have
00:32:38 --> 00:32:40 this mindset if you ain't been through
00:32:40 --> 00:32:43 nothing you can't tell me nothing right
00:32:43 --> 00:32:46 and I don't believe it right so you know
00:32:46 --> 00:32:48 I mean but God allows you know I mean
00:32:48 --> 00:32:50 and he Graces us to go through certain
00:32:50 --> 00:32:53 things right whether it be you know I
00:32:53 --> 00:32:54 mean tormenting in the mind different
00:32:54 --> 00:32:56 things of that nature why because of the
00:32:56 --> 00:32:58 people in the reach that you got to go
00:32:58 --> 00:33:00 get so it's like we got to go through
00:33:00 --> 00:33:02 the fire first in order to bring those
00:33:02 --> 00:33:05 people out say listen I've been there
00:33:05 --> 00:33:06 because this is a generation that want
00:33:06 --> 00:33:08 to say hey show me the nails it's in
00:33:08 --> 00:33:11 your hands you know show me them Nails
00:33:11 --> 00:33:13 show me your scars you know what I mean
00:33:13 --> 00:33:15 so it's like yo I've been there you know
00:33:15 --> 00:33:16 I mean if you want to talk about giving
00:33:16 --> 00:33:18 up man I've been there man you want to
00:33:18 --> 00:33:20 talk about suicide man I've been there
00:33:20 --> 00:33:21 you know I mean if you want to talk
00:33:21 --> 00:33:22 about all that I've been there you want
00:33:22 --> 00:33:24 to talk about being shot at man I've
00:33:24 --> 00:33:26 been there you know so it's like okay
00:33:26 --> 00:33:29 all right so you know well what changed
00:33:29 --> 00:33:32 you man it was this book right here this
00:33:32 --> 00:33:34 book changed me so that's why you know I
00:33:34 --> 00:33:36 mean I I really believe you know I mean
00:33:36 --> 00:33:38 that you know I mean that uh that the
00:33:38 --> 00:33:40 things that we go through is really for
00:33:40 --> 00:33:41 you know I mean for other people like
00:33:41 --> 00:33:43 you're you know you're interceding you
00:33:43 --> 00:33:44 know I mean and different things that
00:33:44 --> 00:33:46 may come at you is only for the reach
00:33:47 --> 00:33:48 that you got to go get you know like you
00:33:48 --> 00:33:51 said you got an International Ministry
00:33:51 --> 00:33:53 you didn't get that by happen St you
00:33:53 --> 00:33:55 know but I'm G tell you I I was in
00:33:55 --> 00:33:57 church one day I'm g go back to what you
00:33:57 --> 00:33:59 just said said I was in church one day
00:33:59 --> 00:34:01 and um Pastor
00:34:01 --> 00:34:04 lelle she passed away now Pastor lelle
00:34:04 --> 00:34:07 she said I see I see a the Lord has such
00:34:07 --> 00:34:09 a huge Ministry on you but you won't be
00:34:09 --> 00:34:11 in the church I was almost heartbroken
00:34:11 --> 00:34:14 I'm like God don't want me in a church I
00:34:14 --> 00:34:15 because the people already didn't want
00:34:15 --> 00:34:18 to receive me anyway right and like I
00:34:18 --> 00:34:20 was like really she was like she won't
00:34:20 --> 00:34:22 she I just don't see it in the church
00:34:22 --> 00:34:24 yeah and even though I you know I may
00:34:24 --> 00:34:25 travel do conferences and things like
00:34:25 --> 00:34:29 that but my Ministry is outside of the
00:34:29 --> 00:34:31 church and like you said we we went
00:34:31 --> 00:34:33 through so much and I I used to always
00:34:33 --> 00:34:35 hate this and I'm going to say it
00:34:35 --> 00:34:36 because it's it's like a cliche but it
00:34:36 --> 00:34:38 really is real you know what we go
00:34:38 --> 00:34:39 through wasn't for us it was to help
00:34:39 --> 00:34:40 somebody else right don't you always
00:34:40 --> 00:34:41 hate that like what you going through
00:34:41 --> 00:34:43 isday for is for you goonna bless
00:34:43 --> 00:34:44 somebody else but I don't want to go
00:34:44 --> 00:34:46 through it why can't somebody else bless
00:34:46 --> 00:34:50 them you know but all the Toro all we
00:34:50 --> 00:34:53 the process and I was just on another
00:34:53 --> 00:34:55 another podcast the process is so
00:34:55 --> 00:34:57 important if I knew I was going through
00:34:57 --> 00:34:59 the proc process I would have quit you
00:34:59 --> 00:35:01 know like I didn't want to do this I
00:35:01 --> 00:35:02 didn't even know it was I had no option
00:35:02 --> 00:35:05 I had no choice it was do or die you
00:35:05 --> 00:35:07 know when when I answer when I heard the
00:35:07 --> 00:35:09 Lord call me I mean I I literally heard
00:35:09 --> 00:35:11 him clear like listen this is your
00:35:11 --> 00:35:12 season and it's not just your season but
00:35:12 --> 00:35:16 it's your time you gotta come now I was
00:35:16 --> 00:35:18 like or else what like you know I didn't
00:35:18 --> 00:35:19 get it or else what but I'm like come
00:35:20 --> 00:35:23 now and but immediately everything that
00:35:23 --> 00:35:25 I desire I no longer
00:35:25 --> 00:35:28 desire so it wasn't that I would have I
00:35:28 --> 00:35:29 was having a good time in the world yeah
00:35:30 --> 00:35:31 yeah nobody want to never say that I was
00:35:31 --> 00:35:35 having a good time yeah yeah I was I was
00:35:35 --> 00:35:37 I was popular that was important I was
00:35:37 --> 00:35:39 having a I was having fun you know I was
00:35:39 --> 00:35:41 having a good time um I Had No Lack
00:35:41 --> 00:35:43 because the enemy a give her too just no
00:35:43 --> 00:35:45 peace comes with it no peace come with
00:35:45 --> 00:35:46 it you know he gonna give you you'll get
00:35:46 --> 00:35:49 it but you won't get any
00:35:49 --> 00:35:53 peace and there's no reward you know so
00:35:53 --> 00:35:55 I I was like well I don't know what
00:35:55 --> 00:35:56 y'all doing differently cuz I don't see
00:35:56 --> 00:35:58 nobody living right you know
00:35:58 --> 00:36:00 but when the Lord begin to say listen
00:36:00 --> 00:36:01 and then I I said okay Lord I'mma answer
00:36:01 --> 00:36:04 your call you know I'mma answer but I I
00:36:04 --> 00:36:06 don't really you know everybody El still
00:36:06 --> 00:36:07 doing what they want to do he said but
00:36:07 --> 00:36:09 you can't you got to walk in Integrity
00:36:09 --> 00:36:11 but because we went through we had to go
00:36:11 --> 00:36:13 through it wasn't hard for us to we
00:36:13 --> 00:36:15 already understood loyalty we already
00:36:15 --> 00:36:17 understood Integrity we already
00:36:17 --> 00:36:20 understood suffering you know and we
00:36:20 --> 00:36:22 already understood after you suffer for
00:36:22 --> 00:36:25 a while yeah that the Lord will come and
00:36:25 --> 00:36:27 establish you you knew you waited on him
00:36:27 --> 00:36:28 you renew strength by the time I got to
00:36:28 --> 00:36:30 the Finish Line I was already strong I
00:36:30 --> 00:36:32 forgot I was even waiting for this
00:36:32 --> 00:36:33 because I had to do it without it for so
00:36:34 --> 00:36:35 long that now I got it I'm strong and
00:36:35 --> 00:36:37 I'm like oh look I look what I finally
00:36:37 --> 00:36:38 got but I already went through the fire
00:36:38 --> 00:36:41 for it you know so we already knew that
00:36:41 --> 00:36:44 before we said yes so once we said yes
00:36:44 --> 00:36:45 we didn't know that we was like David in
00:36:45 --> 00:36:47 the field you know fighting the lions
00:36:47 --> 00:36:49 and tigers and bears because one day we
00:36:49 --> 00:36:50 had
00:36:50 --> 00:36:52 Goliath you know we didn't realize that
00:36:52 --> 00:36:54 we was already crowned King but we
00:36:54 --> 00:36:56 running now for our lives because we
00:36:56 --> 00:36:59 being chased down cuz our destiny right
00:36:59 --> 00:37:02 now was at hand we didn't know you know
00:37:02 --> 00:37:05 so you want to change me you know here I
00:37:05 --> 00:37:08 am I showed up and your main goal is to
00:37:08 --> 00:37:12 change me just receive me yeah yeah
00:37:12 --> 00:37:14 because right now I need love I need a
00:37:14 --> 00:37:16 hug I I just came out of the storm I
00:37:16 --> 00:37:19 just came from the battlefield for real
00:37:19 --> 00:37:21 you know for real so I think that that
00:37:21 --> 00:37:26 is um amazing testimony um in in in my
00:37:26 --> 00:37:28 favorite script
00:37:28 --> 00:37:30 uh was Paul's the letters to Paul's the
00:37:30 --> 00:37:32 love letters I call them that he would
00:37:32 --> 00:37:34 write to the church but I could see why
00:37:34 --> 00:37:35 they resonated with
00:37:35 --> 00:37:38 you like knowing your testimony now and
00:37:38 --> 00:37:39 your
00:37:39 --> 00:37:43 story yes so when you um you got
00:37:43 --> 00:37:45 ordained right at your church yes went
00:37:45 --> 00:37:48 okay okay um so when you made the
00:37:48 --> 00:37:50 announcement to your uh your family
00:37:50 --> 00:37:51 because your wife been married for a
00:37:51 --> 00:37:53 long time you've been married for a
00:37:53 --> 00:37:54 while right yes I've been married since
00:37:54 --> 00:37:55 uh
00:37:55 --> 00:37:58 2003 how many years is Jack give my math
00:37:58 --> 00:38:01 you do math on on will be 22 years this
00:38:01 --> 00:38:04 year 22 years
00:38:04 --> 00:38:07 yeah that is blessed so you already
00:38:07 --> 00:38:10 understood commitment yeah yeah I ain't
00:38:10 --> 00:38:11 never been faithful to nothing but my
00:38:11 --> 00:38:13 prayer line and then the Lord said after
00:38:13 --> 00:38:14 you've been faithful to a few things I
00:38:14 --> 00:38:16 make you ruer over many because I
00:38:16 --> 00:38:17 promise you was the first thing I was
00:38:17 --> 00:38:20 faithful to 22 years that's beautiful
00:38:20 --> 00:38:22 was she your high school sweetheart no
00:38:22 --> 00:38:24 my wife is actually from Philly is she
00:38:24 --> 00:38:27 yeah she from Philly oh that is so
00:38:27 --> 00:38:29 precious and so sweet y all so cute
00:38:29 --> 00:38:31 together so I know we don't have much
00:38:32 --> 00:38:34 time left but I want you just to um what
00:38:34 --> 00:38:35 do you got what do you have going on now
00:38:35 --> 00:38:37 I think I've seen you mentoring some
00:38:37 --> 00:38:39 young men do you do prison ministry I
00:38:39 --> 00:38:42 don't I I did prison ministry before I
00:38:42 --> 00:38:43 used to go to uh one of my friends one
00:38:43 --> 00:38:44 of my good Brothers down in uh
00:38:44 --> 00:38:47 Chestertown Maryland we used to do uh
00:38:47 --> 00:38:49 prison ministry down there we go down
00:38:49 --> 00:38:51 there what was it like once uh it's like
00:38:51 --> 00:38:52 on a
00:38:52 --> 00:38:55 Wednesday uh every week so we did that
00:38:55 --> 00:38:57 for like a year and some Chang until
00:38:57 --> 00:38:59 they shut it it down but um as of right
00:38:59 --> 00:39:01 now I do the Sunday breakfast
00:39:01 --> 00:39:04 mission and I acquired that from Apostle
00:39:04 --> 00:39:07 TB Walker so I've been doing that for a
00:39:07 --> 00:39:09 two and a half almost three years now I
00:39:09 --> 00:39:11 go on the first Saturday of every month
00:39:11 --> 00:39:13 and really I love it yes I love oh my
00:39:13 --> 00:39:15 goodness we used to go there on holidays
00:39:15 --> 00:39:18 to feed I took my son there I tell you
00:39:18 --> 00:39:20 that story we canceled Christmas and we
00:39:20 --> 00:39:22 would go there on holidays when he was
00:39:22 --> 00:39:24 little okay so you do that do you preach
00:39:25 --> 00:39:26 or do do you do you do Bible study or
00:39:26 --> 00:39:29 you just go just to minister and just to
00:39:29 --> 00:39:31 Fellowship it's preaching so I I preach
00:39:31 --> 00:39:33 down there or I might get you know I
00:39:33 --> 00:39:35 mean somebody my friends with somebody
00:39:35 --> 00:39:39 uh to go ahead and preach uh yeah and
00:39:39 --> 00:39:41 and and and I love it because it's like
00:39:41 --> 00:39:43 I said it's not traditional you know
00:39:43 --> 00:39:45 these are you know guys that are
00:39:45 --> 00:39:47 supposed to be Castaways you know I mean
00:39:47 --> 00:39:49 in society so it's you know I mean it's
00:39:49 --> 00:39:51 like you're resuscitating the
00:39:51 --> 00:39:55 life and I that that's me I I I love
00:39:55 --> 00:39:57 that you know what I mean to bring those
00:39:57 --> 00:40:00 you know so yeah I love have you ever
00:40:00 --> 00:40:02 need some help you call me most that
00:40:03 --> 00:40:03 well
00:40:03 --> 00:40:07 you yeah I got I got cars outside the
00:40:07 --> 00:40:10 Lord bless the Lord blesses yes I work
00:40:10 --> 00:40:12 from home I do everything from home so
00:40:12 --> 00:40:13 me leaving out the house you know ain't
00:40:13 --> 00:40:16 nothing but um a phone call and throw my
00:40:16 --> 00:40:18 wig
00:40:18 --> 00:40:21 on be right there right there and I know
00:40:21 --> 00:40:22 that you were really involved with the
00:40:22 --> 00:40:24 children with sports and things like
00:40:24 --> 00:40:26 that do you also do any Ministry with
00:40:26 --> 00:40:27 you with youth
00:40:27 --> 00:40:30 I don't do too much youth ministry as of
00:40:30 --> 00:40:34 right now yeah but I do have uh a good a
00:40:34 --> 00:40:36 good uh football coach he runs the
00:40:36 --> 00:40:39 organization the No Limit hurricanes so
00:40:39 --> 00:40:42 oh yeah yeah coach Carrie coach Carrie
00:40:42 --> 00:40:45 we love coach my love coach Gary yes
00:40:45 --> 00:40:47 yeah coach Gary yeah so you know I would
00:40:47 --> 00:40:49 I I was coaching up there with Coach car
00:40:49 --> 00:40:51 for a little bit and you know still
00:40:51 --> 00:40:54 coaching huh he's still coaching he's
00:40:54 --> 00:40:55 still coaching that's that's his that's
00:40:55 --> 00:40:57 his baby he not letting his go that's
00:40:57 --> 00:41:00 his baby but he's coaching that I forget
00:41:00 --> 00:41:02 what school Dell Castle I believe he
00:41:02 --> 00:41:04 that Dell Castle right now okay okay
00:41:04 --> 00:41:07 okay yeah my son used to play coach Cary
00:41:07 --> 00:41:11 years ago we love coach Cary yeah and
00:41:11 --> 00:41:13 that's so blessed that's so blessed I
00:41:13 --> 00:41:14 thank you for coming on today I was
00:41:14 --> 00:41:18 really um you were my first male on the
00:41:18 --> 00:41:20 birthing room oh okay and I thought it
00:41:21 --> 00:41:23 was really important to invite somebody
00:41:23 --> 00:41:25 um cuz me men give birth too you know
00:41:25 --> 00:41:28 men give birth too and to watch your
00:41:28 --> 00:41:30 journey and what I mean my journey so as
00:41:30 --> 00:41:34 you begin to to to travel on this
00:41:34 --> 00:41:37 journey um Everything Changes in life
00:41:37 --> 00:41:39 right not just Ministry not just family
00:41:39 --> 00:41:42 what have you what H what change has has
00:41:42 --> 00:41:45 you okay let me get it out what is the
00:41:45 --> 00:41:47 most significant change that you've seen
00:41:47 --> 00:41:49 in your life um since
00:41:49 --> 00:41:51 you have started this journey because I
00:41:51 --> 00:41:53 think we started about the same time
00:41:53 --> 00:41:56 yeah a long way I would have to say my I
00:41:56 --> 00:41:59 have to say my men mentality okay and uh
00:41:59 --> 00:42:03 mentality and knowledge you know for a
00:42:03 --> 00:42:05 lot of times it was you know I was just
00:42:05 --> 00:42:07 you know my way or the highway and you
00:42:07 --> 00:42:09 know I'm not I'm not bending I'm not
00:42:09 --> 00:42:12 doing nothing different and God is like
00:42:12 --> 00:42:13 no that's you know I mean you got to be
00:42:13 --> 00:42:16 able to move with times and you know I
00:42:16 --> 00:42:18 mean understand times and you know I
00:42:18 --> 00:42:20 mean be more understanding you know I
00:42:20 --> 00:42:22 mean for me to
00:42:22 --> 00:42:25 increase and your perspective you know
00:42:25 --> 00:42:26 what I mean so you can see things and
00:42:26 --> 00:42:29 not just you know just in a sense narrow
00:42:29 --> 00:42:31 minded you know so I would say that that
00:42:31 --> 00:42:33 would have to be like the the biggest
00:42:33 --> 00:42:36 thing for me is you know I mean is that
00:42:36 --> 00:42:38 growth and grow what was your what was
00:42:38 --> 00:42:40 your wife say the biggest thing was she
00:42:40 --> 00:42:41 probably would say growth too she
00:42:41 --> 00:42:43 probably would say growth as well yes
00:42:43 --> 00:42:46 just you know I mean just growing in God
00:42:46 --> 00:42:47 you know what I mean growing in God
00:42:47 --> 00:42:49 that's like you know the biggest thing
00:42:49 --> 00:42:51 and allowing it sh the
00:42:51 --> 00:42:54 atmosphere yeah you know when when the
00:42:54 --> 00:42:56 head of the house is lined up with the
00:42:56 --> 00:42:57 father
00:42:57 --> 00:43:00 it just aligns the whole home you know
00:43:00 --> 00:43:02 everything just begins to shift the the
00:43:02 --> 00:43:04 the the marriage the children you know
00:43:04 --> 00:43:07 the dogs I mean everything shifts when
00:43:07 --> 00:43:08 when the head is in place and I think
00:43:08 --> 00:43:09 that's really important I'm gonna be
00:43:09 --> 00:43:11 really intentional this year to bring
00:43:11 --> 00:43:14 more men on I think once we put the men
00:43:14 --> 00:43:16 back in position and what I mean by put
00:43:16 --> 00:43:17 them back in position a lot of us took
00:43:17 --> 00:43:19 them out that's true too you know a lot
00:43:19 --> 00:43:21 of us took them out we just like we can
00:43:21 --> 00:43:22 do it ourselves so we we're not
00:43:22 --> 00:43:25 listening to you you know so my pastor
00:43:25 --> 00:43:27 said you know instead of saying listen
00:43:27 --> 00:43:28 listen I'm going to follow you baby as
00:43:28 --> 00:43:30 long as you following the Lord I'm going
00:43:30 --> 00:43:32 to follow you and allowing the men to
00:43:32 --> 00:43:35 leave their homes do you find as you
00:43:35 --> 00:43:37 live and walk with God and you read your
00:43:37 --> 00:43:40 word that leading your home is different
00:43:40 --> 00:43:43 yes it's way different versus I was
00:43:44 --> 00:43:46 wishy-washy for some years you know real
00:43:46 --> 00:43:49 and honest you know yeah you know my
00:43:49 --> 00:43:51 wife will be reading and I'll be like
00:43:51 --> 00:43:52 man I'm not I ain't for that right now
00:43:52 --> 00:43:54 you know I'm not you know I'm in a
00:43:54 --> 00:43:57 different space you know it's like soon
00:43:57 --> 00:43:59 as you get an alignment you know I mean
00:43:59 --> 00:44:01 she can go ahead and let her hair down
00:44:01 --> 00:44:05 and have that woa moment like you know I
00:44:05 --> 00:44:06 mean I don't have to hunch my shoulders
00:44:07 --> 00:44:10 up and try to be you know so I walk on
00:44:10 --> 00:44:12 on thin ice yeah I can definitely see
00:44:12 --> 00:44:14 the difference you know what I mean yeah
00:44:14 --> 00:44:16 see the difference that was important to
00:44:16 --> 00:44:18 me to marry a saved
00:44:18 --> 00:44:20 man he didn't have to be a pastor he
00:44:20 --> 00:44:22 have to be Minister he just had to love
00:44:22 --> 00:44:24 the Lord and not just love the Lord but
00:44:24 --> 00:44:26 being a doorer of the word of God and
00:44:26 --> 00:44:28 follow the principles and follow the
00:44:28 --> 00:44:31 lord and listen to the the voice of God
00:44:31 --> 00:44:33 and know the heart of God I that sounds
00:44:33 --> 00:44:34 a lot but that was just it I need need
00:44:34 --> 00:44:36 him to be in time and in tune I don't
00:44:36 --> 00:44:38 you singing dancing you go even know how
00:44:38 --> 00:44:40 to shout as long as you understand that
00:44:40 --> 00:44:42 our help comes from the Lord and you are
00:44:42 --> 00:44:44 listening to God as you leading me
00:44:44 --> 00:44:45 because I'm important and you got to
00:44:45 --> 00:44:47 don't be leading me down no no dead Road
00:44:47 --> 00:44:49 don't be lead me down no dark dungeons
00:44:49 --> 00:44:51 don't be lead me nowhere to Brokenness I
00:44:51 --> 00:44:52 don't want be broke don't be le me
00:44:52 --> 00:44:56 nowhere where I've been there you know
00:44:56 --> 00:44:58 so that was really important so I know
00:44:58 --> 00:45:00 your wife is like you know what Lord
00:45:00 --> 00:45:01 whatever you doing keep on doing it she
00:45:02 --> 00:45:04 probably in her closet praying too so
00:45:04 --> 00:45:07 yes that that was um that's that's
00:45:07 --> 00:45:10 really important for me this season to
00:45:10 --> 00:45:12 because we we don't see it enough and I
00:45:12 --> 00:45:13 think we don't embrace it enough I think
00:45:13 --> 00:45:15 be like oh you want bring women to the
00:45:15 --> 00:45:17 birthing room no men giv birth too men
00:45:17 --> 00:45:19 bir in ministries men bir in life too
00:45:19 --> 00:45:22 men bir in businesses men are birthing
00:45:22 --> 00:45:24 businesses let's talk about your workout
00:45:24 --> 00:45:26 business is it a business you just help
00:45:26 --> 00:45:27 people get fabulous
00:45:27 --> 00:45:29 it's a business I just don't have a I
00:45:29 --> 00:45:31 just don't have a LLC uh for it right
00:45:31 --> 00:45:34 now yeah yeah I'm a license tell us
00:45:34 --> 00:45:37 about it well actually I got into I got
00:45:37 --> 00:45:41 into fitness a few years ago uh in 2014
00:45:41 --> 00:45:44 uh I was diagnosed with diabetes and uh
00:45:44 --> 00:45:47 high blood pressure and uh for some
00:45:47 --> 00:45:50 years I struggled with it you know uh my
00:45:50 --> 00:45:54 weight had ballooned to about 260 265
00:45:54 --> 00:45:57 somewhere around that range and uh my
00:45:57 --> 00:45:58 doctor just told me straight up she said
00:45:59 --> 00:46:00 listen you either gonna make some
00:46:00 --> 00:46:03 changes or you gonna die period just
00:46:03 --> 00:46:05 like that you know my A1C numbers was
00:46:05 --> 00:46:08 about 13 and if you know about I mean
00:46:08 --> 00:46:11 diabetes A1C numbers you know five and
00:46:11 --> 00:46:14 under is where you should be at but my
00:46:14 --> 00:46:16 numbers was the 13 so she said you gonna
00:46:16 --> 00:46:18 make some change you're gonna die you
00:46:18 --> 00:46:19 know and then from there that's when I
00:46:19 --> 00:46:22 you know I got my life together in about
00:46:22 --> 00:46:25 2017 is when I started going to the gym
00:46:25 --> 00:46:27 uh started transforming my body uh
00:46:27 --> 00:46:29 started eating a little bit better you
00:46:29 --> 00:46:32 know it wasn't until like 20 2023 that I
00:46:32 --> 00:46:34 really started getting the whole
00:46:34 --> 00:46:38 nutritional side down or whatever but uh
00:46:38 --> 00:46:40 yeah so you know and that's the journey
00:46:40 --> 00:46:41 I've been on you know I'm current and
00:46:41 --> 00:46:43 I've been watching yeah I've been
00:46:43 --> 00:46:45 watching it and I'm impress because I
00:46:45 --> 00:46:46 don't think I ever thought you were a
00:46:46 --> 00:46:49 big guy but now if I look back now on
00:46:49 --> 00:46:51 other pictures I'm I could see I can see
00:46:51 --> 00:46:53 the transformation but after just that
00:46:53 --> 00:46:57 it just becomes a whole different trans
00:46:57 --> 00:46:58 I'm inspired by I was like he back in
00:46:58 --> 00:47:00 that gym and I saw you helping some
00:47:00 --> 00:47:01 people and people were working out and
00:47:01 --> 00:47:03 you was pushing them I said oh listen he
00:47:03 --> 00:47:05 didn't turn into a whole business um
00:47:05 --> 00:47:08 Kesha another girl I follow she does
00:47:08 --> 00:47:10 that and she's really has a huge
00:47:10 --> 00:47:12 following so I'm excited to see where
00:47:12 --> 00:47:14 this takes uh takes you at throughout
00:47:14 --> 00:47:17 the years because you really I mean it
00:47:17 --> 00:47:18 it's really been inspiring that you
00:47:18 --> 00:47:20 shared that Journey with us because most
00:47:20 --> 00:47:22 men don't share those Journeys you know
00:47:22 --> 00:47:24 you see women do it no you know it's
00:47:24 --> 00:47:26 come out like yeah I've been like this
00:47:26 --> 00:47:29 you know so that was really amazing and
00:47:29 --> 00:47:31 now every now your health and and
00:47:31 --> 00:47:33 because you took those you made those
00:47:33 --> 00:47:35 changes spiritually and physically all
00:47:35 --> 00:47:38 of that has been reversed every the
00:47:38 --> 00:47:41 diabetes is it's a it's a hereditary
00:47:41 --> 00:47:43 thing however I still you know I still
00:47:44 --> 00:47:45 go to the gym work out you know I mean
00:47:45 --> 00:47:47 eat the best that I can you know I mean
00:47:47 --> 00:47:50 to reverse that now the D the um the
00:47:50 --> 00:47:53 high blood pressure completely going you
00:47:53 --> 00:47:54 that's completely going so there's no
00:47:54 --> 00:47:56 high blood pressure but the diabetes is
00:47:56 --> 00:47:58 always is a constant fight is always a
00:47:58 --> 00:48:01 constant fight we GNA pray for total
00:48:01 --> 00:48:02 healing in
00:48:02 --> 00:48:05 2025 because it may be in the bloodline
00:48:05 --> 00:48:08 but we have been washed and Redeemed by
00:48:08 --> 00:48:10 the blood and we have a blood
00:48:10 --> 00:48:13 transfusion by the holy spirit amen so
00:48:13 --> 00:48:15 we're GNA pray this season that uh when
00:48:15 --> 00:48:16 you come back because we're gonna bring
00:48:16 --> 00:48:18 you back next year that uh that report
00:48:18 --> 00:48:20 is different it's gonna be it's already
00:48:20 --> 00:48:22 done it's already done that's it it's
00:48:22 --> 00:48:25 already done so if you had to leave us
00:48:25 --> 00:48:27 with something
00:48:27 --> 00:48:29 that you would have told your younger
00:48:29 --> 00:48:31 self the one that said I'm not going
00:48:31 --> 00:48:32 back to church because I only going
00:48:32 --> 00:48:34 Easter and Christmas what would you have
00:48:34 --> 00:48:36 said to yourself
00:48:36 --> 00:48:39 today uh I
00:48:39 --> 00:48:41 want that was a good one wasn't it yeah
00:48:41 --> 00:48:43 that was a good yeah that was a good one
00:48:43 --> 00:48:46 that was a good one uh I would probably
00:48:46 --> 00:48:48 tell myself to just
00:48:48 --> 00:48:51 Embrace embrace all your challenges
00:48:51 --> 00:48:54 because uh they they they're going to
00:48:54 --> 00:48:58 birth something they something you know
00:48:58 --> 00:49:00 what I mean you know because you know we
00:49:00 --> 00:49:03 we we we go through things and you know
00:49:03 --> 00:49:06 what I mean it it's to it's to make us
00:49:06 --> 00:49:08 it's to you know it's to prove us so
00:49:08 --> 00:49:11 always always say that you know if I had
00:49:11 --> 00:49:13 an opportunity to change you know I mean
00:49:13 --> 00:49:14 one thing about my life or go back and
00:49:14 --> 00:49:16 do something differently I wouldn't
00:49:16 --> 00:49:18 change anything I was do everything
00:49:19 --> 00:49:20 exactly the same and still end up in the
00:49:20 --> 00:49:23 same exact place right now you know
00:49:23 --> 00:49:27 because you know like everything is you
00:49:27 --> 00:49:28 you changing the whole Paradigm you know
00:49:28 --> 00:49:30 I mean changing the whole Paradigm
00:49:30 --> 00:49:32 everything you know what I mean I may
00:49:32 --> 00:49:33 not have met you if I change one thing
00:49:33 --> 00:49:35 if I go to college mean different things
00:49:35 --> 00:49:37 of that nature now I might not be able
00:49:37 --> 00:49:38 to get to my nephews games and you know
00:49:38 --> 00:49:41 what I mean and reunite so you know I
00:49:41 --> 00:49:42 don't want to change anything but yeah
00:49:42 --> 00:49:44 that would be the one thing I just
00:49:44 --> 00:49:45 embrace you know I mean all the
00:49:45 --> 00:49:48 negativity embrace all the good because
00:49:48 --> 00:49:49 it's GNA lead you to somewhere that's
00:49:49 --> 00:49:51 going to be positive once you you know I
00:49:51 --> 00:49:54 mean really Embrace who you are in God
00:49:54 --> 00:49:56 that's good right there that is good
00:49:56 --> 00:49:59 right there so I always ask my guests to
00:49:59 --> 00:50:01 close us out in prayer do you you are
00:50:01 --> 00:50:03 you comfortable closing out in prayer I
00:50:03 --> 00:50:04 know you can pray but people don't pray
00:50:04 --> 00:50:05 pray out loud are you okay all right
00:50:05 --> 00:50:07 close
00:50:07 --> 00:50:09 up father we just come before you right
00:50:09 --> 00:50:10 now oh god father God we're just
00:50:10 --> 00:50:12 thanking you oh God we're just thanking
00:50:12 --> 00:50:14 you father God for the opportunity
00:50:14 --> 00:50:16 father God to just be on this podcast on
00:50:16 --> 00:50:18 today oh god father God we're thanking
00:50:18 --> 00:50:20 you father God for the questions father
00:50:20 --> 00:50:21 God that were ask father God we thank
00:50:21 --> 00:50:24 you for the form just in general god
00:50:24 --> 00:50:25 father God we're asking you oh god
00:50:26 --> 00:50:27 father God that you would take this to
00:50:27 --> 00:50:29 the highways and the byways father God
00:50:29 --> 00:50:31 to the nation father God that people
00:50:31 --> 00:50:32 that will hear father God would be
00:50:32 --> 00:50:34 excited father God about their own lives
00:50:34 --> 00:50:36 oh god father God that they would change
00:50:36 --> 00:50:39 somebody in the direction father God in
00:50:39 --> 00:50:42 the trajectory of their life father God
00:50:42 --> 00:50:44 as they hear it as they see it father
00:50:44 --> 00:50:46 God father God we're asking father God
00:50:46 --> 00:50:48 that the wisdom that you are oh God that
00:50:48 --> 00:50:50 you would pass that wisdom father God
00:50:50 --> 00:50:51 through the words that we have spoken on
00:50:51 --> 00:50:53 tonight oh god father God that you will
00:50:53 --> 00:50:55 add father God Souls unto the kingdom
00:50:55 --> 00:50:57 father God that somebody May Cry Out
00:50:57 --> 00:51:00 father God what must I do to be saved oh
00:51:00 --> 00:51:03 God for Father God that is the journey
00:51:03 --> 00:51:05 father God that is the goal father God
00:51:05 --> 00:51:07 of this platform that is the goal father
00:51:07 --> 00:51:09 God that we are uh seeking to achieve
00:51:09 --> 00:51:11 father God it is about your kingdom
00:51:13 --> 00:51:15 being uplifted on in this earth realm oh
00:51:15 --> 00:51:17 God and we thank you and we praise you
00:51:17 --> 00:51:18 for all that you have done for all that
00:51:18 --> 00:51:20 you will do father God in the mighty
00:51:20 --> 00:51:24 name of Jesus we pray amen amen amen
00:51:24 --> 00:51:27 amen I want to say thank thank you as I
00:51:27 --> 00:51:29 always say to everybody we always end in
00:51:29 --> 00:51:31 prayer because we only got here because
00:51:31 --> 00:51:34 of prayer and even as Minister Kenny
00:51:34 --> 00:51:37 begin to talk about his journey the one
00:51:37 --> 00:51:38 thing if you don't take nothing else
00:51:38 --> 00:51:40 know that his grandmother prayed for him
00:51:40 --> 00:51:41 yes she did and I don't care what the
00:51:41 --> 00:51:43 enemy has said I don't care what the
00:51:43 --> 00:51:45 world has said I don't care what you
00:51:45 --> 00:51:48 have done nothing can stop what God has
00:51:48 --> 00:51:51 for you you have not aborted the mission
00:51:51 --> 00:51:53 you will not miss your destiny the
00:51:53 --> 00:51:55 prayers of the righteous will still
00:51:55 --> 00:51:57 Avail of much God said know the plans I
00:51:57 --> 00:51:59 have toward you the plans to give you a
00:51:59 --> 00:52:00 hope and to give you a future he has not
00:52:00 --> 00:52:03 forgotten about you I want you to cry
00:52:03 --> 00:52:06 out to God and as you begin to cry out
00:52:06 --> 00:52:09 to him the Lord will hear your cry and
00:52:09 --> 00:52:11 he will come and see about you because
00:52:11 --> 00:52:12 he's concerned was concerned about you
00:52:12 --> 00:52:15 if you need prayer if you don't know the
00:52:15 --> 00:52:16 Lord as your personal Lord and Savior
00:52:16 --> 00:52:18 just invite him in if you need prayer
00:52:18 --> 00:52:21 call us call me inbox me I will make
00:52:21 --> 00:52:23 sure I tag uh Minister Kenny with all of
00:52:23 --> 00:52:26 his information in our chat and our box
00:52:26 --> 00:52:28 if you want to reach out to him if you
00:52:28 --> 00:52:29 have questions if you want him for
00:52:29 --> 00:52:31 speaking engagements so that way you can
00:52:32 --> 00:52:33 stay connected and you can stay in touch
00:52:34 --> 00:52:35 I want you all to come back to the
00:52:35 --> 00:52:37 birthing room so we can experience
00:52:37 --> 00:52:40 another birthing experience or a midwife
00:52:40 --> 00:52:41 you just never know what's going to be
00:52:41 --> 00:52:43 next everyone have a blessed day and
00:52:43 --> 00:52:47 I'll see you on the next episode
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