Hosts Dave and Leonard discuss top stories and local happenings: Stephen A. Smith's unexpected White House dinner with Trump and conversations about HBCU funding; the backlash around A'ja Wilson's MVP speech and critiques of her upbringing; the short-lived White House press secretary and a pardoned activist's bid for the role. They close with lighter banter about weekend life and a 'build a president' segment.
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01:27 --> 01:30 hanging out with my partner Mr. Leonard Young. What's going on, sir?
01:30 --> 01:34 Hey Dave, everything is good. This is Leonard Young, CEO of
01:34 --> 01:37 National Black Guide, delawareblack.com,
01:37 --> 01:40 black media expert, all-around good guy. How goes it,
01:41 --> 01:45 man? I can't call it, uh, you still coming down from your birthday,
01:45 --> 01:48 man, or are you still celebrating? No, I mean,
01:49 --> 01:53 I'm, uh, I'm, I'm, I'm back to earth, you know.
01:53 --> 01:56 Yeah, landed sometime last week.
01:56 --> 01:59 Okay. All right. Okay. Um,
01:59 --> 02:02 well, I don't know, man. This seemed to be a busy month for a lot
02:03 --> 02:06 of people's birthday. Every time I turn around, I see somebody's birthday is going on,
02:06 --> 02:09 man. I know, me too. Same, same. Every time I turn around, it's like,
02:09 --> 02:11 happy birthday. I'm like, damn, like, you too? I was like, you too?
02:12 --> 02:15 I was like, I didn't realize October was that, that popular of a month.
02:16 --> 02:19 For birthdays, but yeah, I guess it is. I mean,
02:19 --> 02:22 you, you know, they say the best, the best sign is this— of
02:23 --> 02:25 the best zodiac sign is Libra, so I guess so.
02:26 --> 02:30 Oh, is that what they say? Yeah, that, that is what they say.
02:30 --> 02:34 Oh, okay. You probably, you probably gonna try to get on me. I'm just,
02:34 --> 02:37 I'm, I'm just the messenger. That's what— okay,
02:37 --> 02:40 I'll take your word for it then, right? Oh,
02:41 --> 02:45 um, But yeah, um, did you do anything exciting
02:45 --> 02:47 over the weekend at all? No, work.
02:49 --> 02:50 Would you say no work?
02:52 --> 02:55 Yeah, definitely work. Nothing exciting.
02:56 --> 03:00 Uh, okay. What about yourself? Um,
03:00 --> 03:04 not really, man. It just, um, the weekend kind of
03:04 --> 03:07 flew by, man. It's, you know The
03:08 --> 03:10 weekends though, you know, does it seem like they, they,
03:11 --> 03:15 they've taken minutes and hours out of
03:15 --> 03:16 the weekend anymore?
03:18 --> 03:22 Yes, it does not seem to be a long, long anymore, you know. No,
03:22 --> 03:25 well, you know, I feel like once you really become an adult and you have
03:25 --> 03:29 responsibilities, you know, especially now, and I guess
03:29 --> 03:32 especially for you, Dave, because a lot of times, you know, you pull extra shifts
03:32 --> 03:34 on the weekend, but You know, when you start having to work on the weekend
03:35 --> 03:38 and do like non-enjoyable things on the regular, you know,
03:39 --> 03:42 those weekend days just shorten right on up. Yeah,
03:42 --> 03:45 that's true. It makes no
03:46 --> 03:49 sense how quickly it goes. I mean, the people that I work with,
03:50 --> 03:54 there's normal— we have a normal group of people who
03:55 --> 03:58 are usually there on Saturdays when I work on Saturdays.
04:00 --> 04:02 And we all say the same thing on Monday when we come in on Monday.
04:02 --> 04:06 It's like, gosh, you know, you know, like,
04:07 --> 04:10 because as soon as we, you know, most of us work till like 3 o'clock
04:10 --> 04:13 on Saturdays. Yeah. And when we get out,
04:14 --> 04:18 you know, basically the weekend, you know, we didn't waste one day of the weekend
04:18 --> 04:22 already, you know. So, and then, um, for those who do
04:23 --> 04:27 certain things on Sunday, you know, um You
04:28 --> 04:32 know, it's, uh, basically, basically, you know,
04:32 --> 04:36 if you don't have the, um, if you're not just chilling or relaxing
04:36 --> 04:39 on Sunday, then, um, you know,
04:39 --> 04:43 you're— if you're busy, you know, then you might well discount that day
04:43 --> 04:46 too, you know what I mean? Yeah, because I mean, they do— do you even
04:47 --> 04:50 look forward to Saturday? Like, when you're at work on Friday and it's like after
04:51 --> 04:54 12 but before 5 or 6, do you say, man, I can't wait till Saturday?
04:55 --> 04:57 Nope, I haven't said that in so long, man.
04:59 --> 05:00 I have not said that in so long.
05:03 --> 05:06 It is so funny to even think about it now because
05:07 --> 05:09 I have not said that. Right. You know,
05:11 --> 05:15 and it was just like on Friday when people,
05:16 --> 05:19 when people said, you know, Friday's finally here, we finally got
05:20 --> 05:22 to Friday. I'd be thinking to myself, that don't mean nothing to me, you know,
05:22 --> 05:25 you know, because I'll be here the next day too.
05:25 --> 05:29 But it's just the thing that the weekend, the weekend is here, I guess,
05:29 --> 05:32 you know. So that's, that's what people get,
05:32 --> 05:35 um, happy about. So I don't know,
05:36 --> 05:39 uh, it's not that big of a deal to me anymore. So,
05:40 --> 05:43 um, you know,
05:43 --> 05:48 and I, you know, especially I guess the people who were
05:49 --> 05:51 in school or whatever, because there's been a lot, you know, there's a lot of
05:51 --> 05:56 homecomings and everything going on, you know. So A
05:56 --> 06:00 friend of mine was telling me that he and some of his college
06:00 --> 06:04 buddies, he said
06:04 --> 06:08 it was about 5 or 10 of them from here that
06:08 --> 06:12 went to their homecoming. And I was like, he went
06:13 --> 06:16 to school at Virginia State.
06:17 --> 06:21 And he said that he met up with some people down there. And he said,
06:21 --> 06:24 surprisingly, he said it was about 30 of them that showed up. And I was
06:24 --> 06:28 like, oh, well, that's a good turnout, you know, 30 people. Yeah, you know,
06:28 --> 06:32 um, because, you know, nowadays it's kind of hard
06:32 --> 06:36 to even imagine that you can get that many people together anymore,
06:36 --> 06:39 you know, especially, especially when you get up in
06:39 --> 06:42 our ages, you know, because, you know, you never know who's
06:43 --> 06:46 still around anymore. So yeah, yeah, your, your age is— yes,
06:46 --> 06:50 your age is— yes, I know. Well, you didn't join the 50— you didn't join
06:50 --> 06:53 the 50 Club, so, uh, you know, you know, what can you say?
06:54 --> 06:57 You're right there, you, you consider old now. So,
06:58 --> 07:01 yeah, crazy. Yeah, I know.
07:02 --> 07:05 But it is, it is what it is.
07:08 --> 07:11 And I heard good news about the
07:12 --> 07:16 Hip Hop Cultural Summit, you know, so I
07:16 --> 07:20 saw a lot of great clips and whatever. Unfortunately, I was working, I couldn't get
07:20 --> 07:24 there. Myself to go see it, but, um, shout out to Grouchy Greg
07:24 --> 07:28 and Iz in reference to, um, looking like they
07:28 --> 07:31 had another— yeah, look packed.
07:32 --> 07:35 Yeah, yeah, it looked like they had a great turnout, so that's good.
07:35 --> 07:38 Yeah, happy to hear that. Um,
07:39 --> 07:42 let's see, trying to see, is there anything
07:43 --> 07:45 else that we need to cover as far as the weekend other than the weather?
07:46 --> 07:49 The weather was kind of interesting over the weekend too. You can
07:50 --> 07:52 tell, you can tell we get ready to go into the change, I guess.
07:53 --> 07:56 Remember we used to have something called Indian summer?
07:57 --> 08:00 Yes, I, I forget what it means, but yeah, sounds familiar.
08:01 --> 08:06 Oh yeah, I forgot you are a little younger. Indian summer used to be like,
08:06 --> 08:10 it would be that last side of summer that would come like
08:10 --> 08:13 in the fall, like the weather would get
08:13 --> 08:17 cool. And then all of a sudden you'll get a blast. Oh yeah,
08:17 --> 08:19 blast of heat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
08:20 --> 08:23 So, but I guess the temperatures look like they're about to change on
08:24 --> 08:27 us now, you know. Matter of fact, uh, daylight saving time
08:28 --> 08:32 is coming in about 2 weeks, so I
08:33 --> 08:36 think this is supposedly supposed to be the last one. I guess we'll see,
08:37 --> 08:41 right? Yeah, I guess we'll see. So All
08:41 --> 08:45 right, well, I guess we got a few stories to talk about today.
08:45 --> 08:49 Um, so I guess we're going to go ahead and get into
08:49 --> 08:53 our stories. Um, I saw
08:53 --> 08:57 our buddy Stephen A. Smith still seems to get himself
08:58 --> 09:01 in trouble on a regular basis with the stuff that— I
09:01 --> 09:05 think I'm starting to think, Leonard, that the stuff he's been doing,
09:05 --> 09:07 he does on— he's been doing on purpose.
09:09 --> 09:12 Yeah, just to, you know, you know,
09:12 --> 09:16 just to keep his name relevant and all of that kind of stuff. Because I
09:16 --> 09:20 can't believe that he truly likes pissing people off the way he does.
09:21 --> 09:24 He's good at it though, Dave. Yeah, he is, he is,
09:24 --> 09:27 he is. So, um, this story,
09:27 --> 09:30 Stephen A. Smith dines with Trump,
09:31 --> 09:34 raises HBCU concerns at the White House.
09:35 --> 09:39 And it says the ESPN commentator
09:39 --> 09:43 joined Bill Maher and Kid Rock for dinner after
09:43 --> 09:47 months of public disagreements with the president. Now, if you're
09:47 --> 09:50 gonna, you know, have all these disagreements, and I've been seeing that he's been having
09:51 --> 09:54 a lot of issues with the president, why would you accept a meal with him?
09:54 --> 09:57 Right. You know, I mean, if you want to talk to him, you don't have
09:58 --> 10:01 to accept the meal with him to talk to him because, you know,
10:01 --> 10:04 he's going to turn it into a photo op and, and use it to his,
10:05 --> 10:08 his, uh, to work for him. So, you know, so,
10:10 --> 10:14 but this says after months of trading public insults
10:14 --> 10:18 with President Donald Trump, ESPN commentator Stephen A. Smith joined
10:18 --> 10:22 him for dinner at the White House alongside Bill Maher and Kid Rock.
10:22 --> 10:25 And I'm surprised Bill Maher would even put himself in that situation too, as much
10:25 --> 10:29 as you ever see how much he talks about him. Yeah, Bill Maher
10:29 --> 10:33 goes in on the president. He, he does. So he
10:34 --> 10:37 said the unexpected gathering reportedly included discussions
10:38 --> 10:41 about Black women's unemployment,
10:41 --> 10:45 funding— excuse me— funding
10:45 --> 10:49 for historically Black colleges and universities, and several
10:50 --> 10:52 contentious political issues.
10:54 --> 10:57 According to The Washington Sun, Trump confirmed the dinner
10:58 --> 11:01 While speaking with reporters Friday, October 16th.
11:02 --> 11:06 The dinner last night with Kid Rock and Stephen A. and Bill Maher was great,
11:06 --> 11:09 Trump said. I think they had a good time.
11:11 --> 11:13 They had a good time, I guess, because they, you know,
11:14 --> 11:16 they were with him, I guess. Right.
11:18 --> 11:21 The White House dinner marked a striking turn in
11:22 --> 11:25 Smith's relationship with Trump. Bringing 2 outspoken critics
11:26 --> 11:29 face to face after months of public, uh,
11:29 --> 11:32 sparring— and sparring, I should say.
11:35 --> 11:37 Um, they said it, it was epic.
11:39 --> 11:43 Um, Stephen A. Smith reportedly raises HBCU concerns.
11:43 --> 11:47 You almost forget that he went to HBCU the way he be acting, you know
11:48 --> 11:51 what I mean? What— I, I know I heard of— I just
11:52 --> 11:55 forget what school he went to. He went to Winston-Salem. Okay, gotcha.
11:55 --> 11:59 Yeah, that's where he went to school. Yeah, um, he was there
11:59 --> 12:03 with, um, no, he came
12:03 --> 12:06 after him, but that's the same school that Blunt went to.
12:06 --> 12:10 Um, oh, Ted Blunt. Ted Blunt went there too.
12:10 --> 12:14 Yeah, and Ted Blunt, um, Earl the Pearl Monroe, the basketball
12:14 --> 12:17 player, also went there too. Gotcha. Yeah,
12:18 --> 12:22 um, during a Friday appearance on Fox News, Kid Rock scribed
12:22 --> 12:26 together in this epic scene. The 4 men discussed subjects
12:26 --> 12:29 ranging from socialism to war, to the war in Iran.
12:30 --> 12:34 The 2 Democrats, 2 Republicans sat down. Ah,
12:35 --> 12:38 2 Democrats, 2 Republicans. So who's the other
12:39 --> 12:42 Republican? Break bread,
12:42 --> 12:46 have laughs, have tough conversations on a
12:46 --> 12:50 lot of issues of
12:50 --> 12:54 particular interest. Smith reported discussions about unemployment among
12:54 --> 12:57 Black women and the financial support for HBCUs.
12:59 --> 13:02 According to Kid Rock— oh, Kid Rock, what am I thinking?
13:02 --> 13:06 He's the other Republican. Okay. According to Kid
13:06 --> 13:10 Rock, Smith expressed concerns that corporations
13:10 --> 13:13 have become reluctant to support historically Black
13:13 --> 13:17 institutions Following
13:17 --> 13:20 the administration's actions against diversity,
13:21 --> 13:24 equity, and inclusion initiatives. Kid Rock said
13:25 --> 13:28 in response— said he responded by emphasizing the
13:28 --> 13:33 importance of continued corporate donations to HBCUs.
13:33 --> 13:37 Those details reflect Kid Rock's account. Smith has not
13:37 --> 13:41 independently confirmed the specifics exchange in
13:42 --> 13:45 the reporting reviewed. From public insults to White House
13:45 --> 13:50 dinner, the meeting marked a notable change in the public's relationship
13:50 --> 13:53 with Smith and Trump. Earlier this year, Trump called
13:54 --> 13:58 the sports commentator an arrogant fool and a
13:58 --> 14:03 low-IQ individual after Smith criticized
14:04 --> 14:08 his planned appearance at the NBA Finals. Smith fired
14:08 --> 14:11 back on Sirius FM Radio, XM Radio,
14:12 --> 14:15 declaring that he would smoke Trump in a debate.
14:16 --> 14:20 The ESPN personality has publicly
14:20 --> 14:24 discussed the possibility of seeking the presidency in 2028.
14:25 --> 14:27 Um, let me see.
14:32 --> 14:36 Says, um, Smith indicated
14:36 --> 14:40 Friday that he planned to discuss the dinner on the Straight Shooter YouTube
14:40 --> 14:43 program. Of course he wants to have it on his account.
14:43 --> 14:47 His account would clarify whether the conversation
14:48 --> 14:52 about HBCU funding and Black women's unemployment involved
14:52 --> 14:54 specific requests or commitments.
14:55 --> 14:59 For now, the dinner illustrates how 2 outspoken public
15:00 --> 15:03 figures who have repeatedly criticized each other can still meet to
15:04 --> 15:06 discuss issues on a national concern.
15:07 --> 15:11 Whether these conversations lead to any concrete actions remain
15:11 --> 15:14 unanswered. So here it is.
15:15 --> 15:18 And I don't know, do you think if you had as
15:18 --> 15:22 much disdain and as much to say about
15:22 --> 15:26 the president the way that Stephen
15:26 --> 15:29 A. has in the past, um,
15:29 --> 15:33 or, or even of Bill Maher, because I,
15:33 --> 15:36 I've heard a lot of the stuff that Bill Maher has had to say as
15:36 --> 15:39 well. Do you think you could sit down and
15:39 --> 15:43 con— um, and, and have a conversation
15:43 --> 15:45 with the president in this type of setting?
15:47 --> 15:51 I, I think so. Um, and I, I'm only
15:51 --> 15:55 thinking that because Well,
15:55 --> 15:59 I think it depends on how he conducted
15:59 --> 16:02 himself in that meeting. You know, is he,
16:04 --> 16:07 you know, like buddy-buddy, friend— friends on opposite sides of the aisle?
16:09 --> 16:11 Or is he really coming at— like, I, I could see if he was really
16:12 --> 16:16 coming at him, but this kind of sounds like buddies
16:16 --> 16:20 who have different political views, you know, and, and kind
16:20 --> 16:21 of take jabs at each other.
16:24 --> 16:25 So I, I,
16:27 --> 16:30 I don't know. Um, just the 4 of them there,
16:31 --> 16:34 to, to me that just sounds a little fishy. Yeah,
16:35 --> 16:37 but okay, I was waiting for you to say that. That's where I was hoping
16:37 --> 16:40 you would go with that. Yeah, it does sound fishy to me.
16:42 --> 16:45 And why, and why those particular 4? I mean,
16:45 --> 16:48 why's Trump got Kid Rock there? Right.
16:50 --> 16:50 Okay.
16:51 --> 16:54 And Bill Maher,
16:54 --> 16:56 Stephen A. Smith together.
16:58 --> 17:01 I mean, I'm— I just think that the grouping
17:02 --> 17:05 is a little suspect to me, you know,
17:05 --> 17:08 because, you know, I guarantee he wouldn't bring Jimmy Kimmel on,
17:08 --> 17:11 you know what I mean? Like, oh, he definitely would bring it.
17:11 --> 17:15 He, he wouldn't bring Gavin Newsom on there. Nope. And he's not
17:16 --> 17:18 bringing, um, Colbert either,
17:19 --> 17:22 Stephen Colbert, because, you know, because, you know,
17:23 --> 17:26 both of them have made it clear how they feel about him. And to get
17:27 --> 17:31 him to sit down with them, he would probably have to promise so much stuff,
17:31 --> 17:35 you know, for them to do that. It would be crazy for him to even
17:35 --> 17:38 consider. I still think there's some,
17:38 --> 17:42 something else at play for for— now
17:42 --> 17:46 Stephen A is an opportunistic person, you know, anything to get in front
17:47 --> 17:49 of a camera and say the stuff that he does, I think he'll do.
17:51 --> 17:54 And it's just like, you know, the little secret code thing
17:54 --> 17:58 that was thrown in, in that article about him saying
17:58 --> 18:02 that he'll discuss everything on his YouTube show. Well,
18:02 --> 18:06 that means, okay, now you gotta tune into YouTube to hear
18:06 --> 18:09 what he had to say. And of course he can spin it the way that
18:09 --> 18:13 he wants to spin it on there, right? Did this really happen? Because,
18:13 --> 18:16 you know, he just recently got caught in a lie, you know, up there talking
18:17 --> 18:20 about, uh, how certain things happen. And he recently,
18:21 --> 18:24 you know, um, with the— you heard how he,
18:24 --> 18:28 he was talking about, um, Iman Shumpert and,
18:29 --> 18:31 um, Teyana Taylor's breakup.
18:32 --> 18:35 And he was up there saying how Teyana
18:36 --> 18:39 Taylor the court gave her everything, took all of his homes.
18:39 --> 18:43 He had 4 houses and left him homeless and
18:43 --> 18:46 all this stuff. And that's not what happened. And he had to go back and
18:47 --> 18:50 retract it, you know, because he, he messed up. Because he said all of
18:51 --> 18:55 that, not because, you know, he considers Iman
18:55 --> 18:58 to be one of his boys, but that's not what happened. And,
18:58 --> 19:02 and a couple people had to correct him on that. That's not what happened.
19:02 --> 19:06 I mean, you know, Teyana made out pretty well, but she didn't leave him homeless
19:06 --> 19:09 and didn't take all his money, you know.
19:09 --> 19:12 So, um, but, you know, I just
19:13 --> 19:16 think that there's probably going to be more to come out of this, and I
19:16 --> 19:19 guess it's going to come from the Stephen A. side. Stephen A. side,
19:20 --> 19:23 um, I'm sure, you know. Um,
19:23 --> 19:27 I would be interested to hear what Bill Maher had to say about the meeting.
19:28 --> 19:31 Um, and I'm sure he has something to say about it. I have to go
19:31 --> 19:34 back and look and see, see what he has to say, because Bill Maher goes
19:35 --> 19:38 in on the, on the president on, on his show. I'm telling you, he does.
19:39 --> 19:42 He does not hold back any words either. So for
19:43 --> 19:45 him to sit down and do— to have that meeting,
19:46 --> 19:49 I'm sure there had to be some pretty interesting parameters
19:49 --> 19:52 around it. So that's,
19:53 --> 19:56 that's my thoughts. When I saw that story, I said, oh, I had to say
19:56 --> 19:59 something about it. So You know, because it just doesn't
20:00 --> 20:02 seem like it was something that would normally happen, you know.
20:02 --> 20:05 Yeah, yeah. So, all right,
20:06 --> 20:09 uh, moving on to our next story.
20:10 --> 20:15 Uh, now I—
20:16 --> 20:20 you know, A'ja Wilson is
20:20 --> 20:23 the best female basketball player in the
20:24 --> 20:27 world right now. And yes, she's better than
20:27 --> 20:30 Caitlin Clark for those Caitlin Clark lovers.
20:31 --> 20:35 Um, this— she just won her 5th,
20:36 --> 20:38 and it should have been 6th, MVP award.
20:39 --> 20:43 She is in rare air with a number of
20:45 --> 20:48 men basketball players because there's no other female
20:48 --> 20:52 basketball player that has won 5. You know,
20:53 --> 20:57 MVP awards. And she's just a class act altogether.
20:57 --> 21:01 You know, I'm a big A'ja Wilson fan,
21:01 --> 21:03 have been since her college days.
21:06 --> 21:10 But I came across this article and
21:10 --> 21:13 I just thought it was very interesting. So,
21:14 --> 21:17 and here's Uh, the article
21:18 --> 21:22 goes something like this. It says Asia Wilson,
21:23 --> 21:27 um, is accused
21:27 --> 21:31 of cosplaying her upbringing in
21:32 --> 21:36 heated critique of MVP
21:36 --> 21:39 speech. Okay, so,
21:40 --> 21:45 uh, it says Outkick Post
21:45 --> 21:49 says 5-time WNBA MVP
21:49 --> 21:53 claims of surviving are a
21:53 --> 21:59 bold-faced lie, pointing to her $260
21:59 --> 22:03 private school education and stable 2-parent
22:04 --> 22:07 home. I think we,
22:07 --> 22:11 I think we know where this is going. Um,
22:11 --> 22:14 Outkick host Craig Carton ignited
22:14 --> 22:18 a firestorm this week after accusing WNBA superstar,
22:20 --> 22:24 um, A'ja Wilson of fabricating her life story during her acceptance
22:24 --> 22:28 speech for her record 5th MVP award,
22:29 --> 22:31 which was covered by EURweb.
22:33 --> 22:38 Carton, speaking on the Craig Carton Show, called Wilson's
22:38 --> 22:41 remarks a bold-faced lie and questioned
22:42 --> 22:45 why the Los Angeles Aces forward is cosplaying
22:46 --> 22:50 a narrative of struggle when her actual
22:50 --> 22:54 upbringing was one of considerable, considerable privilege.
22:55 --> 22:58 Wilson's MVP speech sparks controversy.
23:00 --> 23:04 Said the controversy stems from Wilson's emotional comments
23:04 --> 23:09 upon receiving the 2026 WNBA
23:10 --> 23:13 MVP trophy, where she reflects on her younger
23:13 --> 23:17 self. 15-year-old A'ja wasn't sitting up
23:18 --> 23:20 here dreaming about being a 5-time MVP,
23:21 --> 23:24 Wilson said. She wasn't dreaming about, um,
23:26 --> 23:29 she wasn't dreaming about being a 3-time champion.
23:29 --> 23:32 She wasn't dreaming about surviving,
23:33 --> 23:35 uh, she was dreaming about just surviving this world.
23:37 --> 23:40 You went to Heathwood Hall Episcopal School,
23:41 --> 23:44 he said. That's a private school, Clarence.
23:45 --> 23:46 According to Outkick,
23:48 --> 23:52 sending a child through a prestigious South Carolina institution
23:52 --> 23:56 from grade from first grade through high
23:56 --> 23:59 school today would cost nearly $260,
24:00 --> 24:03 a figure Carlton, um, I mean, um,
24:03 --> 24:08 Carlton, um, tried to
24:09 --> 24:13 underscore with what he views as Wilson's
24:14 --> 24:17 tone deafness. Um, um, the reason
24:17 --> 24:21 for The reason for all of this
24:21 --> 24:25 is because— well, first of all, let me, let me just say this. There's a
24:25 --> 24:28 lot— I don't know if you paid as much attention to all the hate that
24:29 --> 24:32 goes towards A'ja Wilson because of Caitlin Clark,
24:33 --> 24:37 um, but you
24:38 --> 24:41 know, they really, they really
24:41 --> 24:44 be hating on A'ja because she
24:45 --> 24:47 is who she is. And of course,
24:48 --> 24:52 with Caitlyn out there, you know, everybody just think that Caitlyn is supposed
24:52 --> 24:56 to get a pass for everything. Why is this guy— because I'm
24:56 --> 25:00 getting mad just reading this article, you know, because why
25:01 --> 25:04 is this guy feels— because he sees her life the way that it
25:04 --> 25:08 is. You can go to a private
25:08 --> 25:12 school and still struggle. You could go to a private
25:12 --> 25:16 school, still survive, be in survival mode. You know, you may
25:16 --> 25:19 be there doing the things that you're doing to,
25:20 --> 25:25 to go to school there, but that doesn't mean that you feel comfortable.
25:25 --> 25:29 That doesn't mean that everything's like, uh, you know,
25:29 --> 25:32 as far as your psyche is concerned, as far as your mental
25:32 --> 25:36 health is concerned, is right. It's just a lot going on. I mean,
25:37 --> 25:41 I mean, you know, you have kids that— you have a kid that's in private
25:41 --> 25:45 school right now. So I've been— and they forget his struggle. I'm worried
25:45 --> 25:49 about my struggle. Well, yeah, well, financially I understand
25:49 --> 25:52 that, but, but even still, I mean,
25:52 --> 25:55 but, you know, it's just like, you know, just,
25:57 --> 26:00 you know, just looking at who he
26:00 --> 26:04 is or any of these other students. I, I spent 6 weeks at a private
26:04 --> 26:08 school Um, Tower Hill. Um, they had a program
26:08 --> 26:12 where they were going to give city students opportunity to go there, and they
26:12 --> 26:15 were going to pay for the tuition and everything. I spent 6 weeks there,
26:15 --> 26:19 man. I said, uh, this is not for me, because I know I
26:19 --> 26:22 wouldn't be able to do it because I hadn't been used to that type of
26:22 --> 26:26 life, you know. But some people are. Now,
26:26 --> 26:29 is it her fault that her parents could afford to send her there?
26:30 --> 26:33 And do we really know all the parameters around that? Because a lot of
26:34 --> 26:38 schools do give scholarships to city students and stuff like that. You never know what
26:38 --> 26:42 the story is around the whole thing, you know. And because
26:42 --> 26:45 she had 2 parents in the home, you know,
26:45 --> 26:49 he made sure to put— to point that out. That meant that she
26:49 --> 26:53 was privileged because most times you
26:53 --> 26:57 hear just about a single-parent home, especially when it comes to a Black family.
26:58 --> 27:01 I just thought that was kind of messed up, you know, um, that he's
27:02 --> 27:05 going to point that out and you're going to take— you're going to take a
27:05 --> 27:08 couple sentences she said in her MVP speech.
27:09 --> 27:14 Keep that in mind. The reason she's standing up there, because she just won the
27:14 --> 27:17 MVP for the 5th time. So this is
27:17 --> 27:21 not about what her upbringing was. This is about what
27:21 --> 27:25 she did on the basketball court. Why not talk about that
27:25 --> 27:29 as opposed to what her privilege might be? What's your thoughts
27:30 --> 27:34 on it? Yeah, you know, I think everyone tries to
27:34 --> 27:36 find an angle to get attention,
27:37 --> 27:39 and I feel like, you know, I feel like back in the day people used
27:40 --> 27:43 to report news on news, but now I feel like people are just trying
27:43 --> 27:46 to find that different angle. Almost like when, um,
27:47 --> 27:50 I forget what it was, but it was like a year or two ago,
27:50 --> 27:52 there was a a commentator,
27:54 --> 27:57 it was either a basketball game or a football game,
27:57 --> 28:01 something, and a player just scored a touchdown.
28:01 --> 28:05 And instead of him talking about the touchdown, he talked about
28:05 --> 28:08 how he had been acquitted of rape or something in college.
28:09 --> 28:12 And it's like, okay, why are you saying this now?
28:12 --> 28:16 He just scored a touchdown for the team. And I know you want to provide
28:17 --> 28:19 information and a backstory, but it's like,
28:19 --> 28:23 You know, why'd you have to say that? Like, where's that coming from?
28:23 --> 28:26 Yeah, I know. And that's what they— was that player Black?
28:27 --> 28:30 Um, as Black as you and me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well,
28:32 --> 28:37 Yeah, I wonder.
28:37 --> 28:40 I can see it, you know. I wonder why they do
28:41 --> 28:44 that. I don't understand. Because even with this whole thing with this Craig Carton,
28:45 --> 28:47 and it's funny, I used to listen to him on the radio all the time.
28:48 --> 28:51 He used to be on WIP, um, up in Philly.
28:52 --> 28:55 Um, but, um, he goes
28:55 --> 28:58 on to talk about Sophie Cunningham. You know who Sophie Cunningham is?
29:00 --> 29:03 Basketball player, the white girl. Yep. Yeah. And she plays on the same team
29:04 --> 29:08 with Caitlin. Okay, she's on Caitlin's team. She said— he goes
29:08 --> 29:11 into Sophie Cunningham didn't grow up in privilege.
29:12 --> 29:16 He said while your parents were together thriving,
29:16 --> 29:20 which is a great story. Sophie Cunningham and her parents
29:21 --> 29:24 were being evicted from their home during the
29:24 --> 29:28 2008 financial crisis. Does anyone tell
29:28 --> 29:32 that story? So is this helping this cause or is this showing
29:32 --> 29:36 who he is? You want to bring
29:36 --> 29:39 up Sophie Cunningham, right? Who, who— the only
29:40 --> 29:43 reason that people know who Sophie Cunningham is because, I mean,
29:43 --> 29:46 she does post a lot. She has a lot of followers. You know,
29:47 --> 29:50 she's a blonde hair, you know, blue-eyed girl
29:51 --> 29:54 who has a lot of personality and everybody just loves.
29:55 --> 29:58 And plus she plays on the same team as,
29:58 --> 30:02 you know, Caitlin Clark, but she's not
30:02 --> 30:06 Asian in any kind of way. So why does she get a pass and Asia
30:06 --> 30:10 doesn't? Because her family was evicted. You know
30:10 --> 30:14 how many Black families have faced that over the years. Why, why are
30:15 --> 30:18 you going to pick on Asia because she was able to come up
30:18 --> 30:21 the way she did and you don't even know her whole story?
30:22 --> 30:26 You know, so, you know, so, you know,
30:26 --> 30:30 it's, you know, you talk about cosplaying and,
30:30 --> 30:33 you know, what did you just do? You know,
30:33 --> 30:38 you're gonna, you're gonna, um, be a little That
30:38 --> 30:42 was a low-key bait and switch right there. You know,
30:42 --> 30:45 we know what you— you just proved your point by going
30:45 --> 30:49 to Sophie Cunningham, a nondescript player versus
30:49 --> 30:52 an MVP. Why are you bringing up Sophie Cunningham, right?
30:53 --> 30:57 Yeah, so I don't know. Um, you know,
30:57 --> 31:01 when it comes— you know, and I'm sure when you have kids to go
31:01 --> 31:04 to— when you, when you are, or when you have kids that go to a
31:05 --> 31:08 private school, or when you're a kid, I mean, have you ever asked your son,
31:08 --> 31:13 how do you feel at that school? Or how would
31:13 --> 31:16 you rather go to a different school? Or, or anything
31:17 --> 31:19 like that? Have you ever had that conversation with him? Or is he— yeah,
31:19 --> 31:22 yeah, because, you know, he would have gone to a different public school, of course.
31:22 --> 31:25 And I was like, well, you know, would you rather gone here? Or what if
31:25 --> 31:28 you stayed here? But I mean, I, I can say he really likes it
31:29 --> 31:33 where he is, so, you know, that Okay. Yeah. All right.
31:33 --> 31:37 Okay. Well, I just think that it was, you know,
31:37 --> 31:41 that was the really cheap shot that he put out there. And it really
31:41 --> 31:45 shows the state of the world that we're in today because everybody always
31:45 --> 31:49 tries to play things in a way that race
31:50 --> 31:53 always seems to come up. And even though he didn't say anything about race,
31:54 --> 31:57 he implied it. Yeah. You know. And the
31:58 --> 32:01 fact that her parents were able to do what they were able to do,
32:01 --> 32:06 regardless of whether they paid $260 for her
32:06 --> 32:09 education prior to college— she didn't go to
32:10 --> 32:13 a private college. She went to, you know, the state,
32:13 --> 32:16 uh, she went to the University of South Carolina,
32:17 --> 32:20 not a private college. She didn't go to, you know, so, um,
32:20 --> 32:22 I don't understand. I mean,
32:24 --> 32:27 and I don't know why he tried to make a big deal out of it
32:27 --> 32:31 anyway, because like I said, the story was she
32:31 --> 32:35 won her 5th MVP, unprecedented 5th
32:35 --> 32:39 MVP. Why couldn't that be the story? Why have
32:39 --> 32:43 to be something else? We gotta wake up, people. We gotta
32:44 --> 32:45 pay attention, okay?
32:47 --> 32:51 Stories like this gets under my skin. So what can I say?
32:52 --> 32:55 You gotta scratch that itch. Yeah. Okay.
32:55 --> 32:59 All right, we're gonna move on to our next
32:59 --> 33:03 story. What you got for us? Yep. So this story is about, um,
33:03 --> 33:07 White House Press Secretary Katie
33:07 --> 33:10 Zacharias' record of being in that position,
33:10 --> 33:14 Dave, for not 7, not 6, but for 5
33:15 --> 33:18 days. Yeah,
33:19 --> 33:21 they— have you ever been to a job where you showed up on Monday and
33:22 --> 33:25 got fired on Friday? Uh, no,
33:25 --> 33:29 thankfully. Yeah, so,
33:29 --> 33:33 um, so just to kind of backtrack,
33:33 --> 33:37 um, Carolyn Lovett, or Levitt,
33:38 --> 33:40 um, left,
33:42 --> 33:45 um, as White House press secretary. And I forget why.
33:45 --> 33:48 She was pregnant, right? I feel like she was pregnant with a baby or something.
33:49 --> 33:52 Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so on October
33:53 --> 33:57 9th— and let me just see what date that was real quick since we're—
33:57 --> 34:01 this is a, a blink and you miss it. Okay, so the prior
34:02 --> 34:05 Friday, so not last week but the week before
34:05 --> 34:09 Friday, October 9th, Donald Trump selected Zachariah
34:10 --> 34:13 to replace Carolyn Levitt as White House press secretary.
34:15 --> 34:19 They said that Zachariah had worked in communications for the Department of Homeland Security
34:20 --> 34:23 and Trump Media and had become a frequent
34:23 --> 34:26 conservative media commentator. Okay,
34:28 --> 34:31 now on October 12th and the 13th, which was
34:32 --> 34:35 Monday, Tuesday of last week, she takes the job
34:35 --> 34:39 and gives her first briefing. And, um,
34:39 --> 34:42 Dave, I think we talked briefly about maybe off the record, but Her
34:43 --> 34:45 first briefing only lasted 15 minutes.
34:46 --> 34:50 She took a few questions and she received
34:50 --> 34:55 so much criticism over her preparedness and
34:55 --> 34:59 her delivery. So a lot of people thought she was reading. A lot of people
34:59 --> 35:02 thought that she didn't write her own speech because, you know, it just has those
35:02 --> 35:07 big words that Trump uses— the best, the biggest, you know,
35:07 --> 35:10 you know, all those adjectives that he likes to use.
35:11 --> 35:14 And, you know, Dave, after those first 2 days, I don't know if you saw
35:14 --> 35:17 it, but the internet was mocking her. You know, like, there are so
35:18 --> 35:21 many memes out there. Oh yeah, yeah, that, uh, you know,
35:21 --> 35:25 Saturday Night Live got a real good— Saturday Night Live got her real
35:26 --> 35:29 good last week. Yeah, so, yeah, so, um, you know, everybody was mocking
35:29 --> 35:33 her. And then, you know, the media
35:33 --> 35:36 and the internet's going to do what the internet does. They started
35:36 --> 35:39 researching her background. So, of course,
35:39 --> 35:42 she claimed to be a lawyer,
35:43 --> 35:47 and people were trying to figure out where she had
35:47 --> 35:50 her degree from. I guess she had mentioned she
35:51 --> 35:52 had a law degree from Pepperdine,
35:55 --> 35:59 but she repeatedly described herself as a lawyer,
36:00 --> 36:03 and Trump had introduced her as an attorney.
36:04 --> 36:08 But reporters could find no evidence that she was licensed to practice law in
36:08 --> 36:11 any jurisdiction. And Dave, this was the funniest part. I think
36:12 --> 36:16 I saw this before I saw anything else. So she was standing with Trump
36:16 --> 36:19 at some type of press conference last week, and there
36:19 --> 36:23 was a reporter that said, hey, you know, Katie,
36:23 --> 36:27 where'd you pass the bar at? Dave, her response
36:27 --> 36:29 was, when I moved to China.
36:32 --> 36:34 I don't think there's a bigger putting your foot in your mouth,
36:35 --> 36:38 you know. Yeah, you know what that reminds
36:38 --> 36:42 me of? It reminds me of when you were a kid and your mama
36:42 --> 36:46 says something to you, you're about to get in trouble, and she's like, David,
36:46 --> 36:50 where are those cookies at? And you say something like,
36:52 --> 36:54 the bed ate them, right? You know,
36:55 --> 36:58 just, just something to kind of make her madder and You
36:59 --> 37:03 know, so she said when she moved to China— so
37:04 --> 37:06 Dave, if you thought they were on her ass then,
37:08 --> 37:11 they were really on her butt now. So now
37:11 --> 37:15 of course everyone's, you know, doing their deep, deep digging,
37:17 --> 37:20 and now it's coming up that, um, she had
37:20 --> 37:23 been investigated by 2 authorities in California.
37:24 --> 37:29 For representing herself as a, as a legal when
37:29 --> 37:33 she was not licensed to do the work. And then on
37:34 --> 37:37 October 15th, which was towards the end of last
37:38 --> 37:41 week, she said she came clean.
37:41 --> 37:46 She said that she had never passed the bar. She said that she took the
37:46 --> 37:50 California bar after law school but did not pass
37:50 --> 37:54 it and never retook it. She argued that
37:55 --> 37:58 having a JD, a Juris Doctor, which I believe you
37:58 --> 38:02 get when you pass, when you graduate from law school, even though you haven't taken
38:02 --> 38:05 the actual bar, she said that that allowed
38:05 --> 38:09 her to do international legal work and to describe
38:09 --> 38:13 herself as a lawyer while distinguishing herself
38:13 --> 38:17 from being a licensed attorney. I mean, sorry, an attorney. So basically,
38:17 --> 38:20 like nowadays, she's playing, playing on words with us.
38:21 --> 38:24 Because, you know, Dave, when I hear a lawyer, I think of attorney. When I
38:24 --> 38:28 think of attorney, I think a lawyer. But she's saying her lawyer didn't
38:28 --> 38:32 mean licensed attorney. So anyway, long story
38:32 --> 38:35 short, you know, I think we all have, have it, um,
38:36 --> 38:38 you know, we can all guess. They dug even deeper,
38:39 --> 38:42 and, you know, there's just a whole bunch of other things that came out.
38:43 --> 38:47 Long story short, last Friday, Donald Trump
38:47 --> 38:50 He, uh, treated her like the, uh, Catholic priest,
38:52 --> 38:55 you know. He treated him like those, uh, child molesting teachers.
38:56 --> 39:00 And so she has been reassigned to another department
39:01 --> 39:03 and she's going to work in a non-public role.
39:04 --> 39:08 So I guess we'll see who's next up on his list
39:08 --> 39:11 for, you know, White House press secretary.
39:18 --> 39:22 He is so embarrassing.
39:23 --> 39:27 He really is. But yet not one
39:29 --> 39:33 qualified Black is qualified to be in that position.
39:37 --> 39:41 Um, I listened to her talk. It almost sounds like she, she already
39:41 --> 39:44 knew when she had her first briefing with the press,
39:45 --> 39:48 that she knew she was in over her head just by the way she,
39:49 --> 39:52 she was talking and the way she was answering the questions that she asked.
39:53 --> 39:56 Um, she stumbled along her little speech there.
39:57 --> 40:00 Then she kept referring to the president as her— my
40:01 --> 40:04 president. Did you see that? Yeah. And she kept trying
40:04 --> 40:07 to correct it every time she said it. Um,
40:08 --> 40:10 It was, it was, you know,
40:11 --> 40:16 I just don't get how we can continue to
40:16 --> 40:22 allow for the mediocrity and
40:22 --> 40:25 also the blatant in our face
40:28 --> 40:31 laughing that the White House
40:32 --> 40:35 and the president and his office,
40:36 --> 40:40 um, cabinet, all of that is allowed to
40:41 --> 40:45 do when it comes to how this country is being ran at this time.
40:46 --> 40:50 He keeps bringing these candidates up for all of these positions,
40:50 --> 40:54 and they all look like they're from the X-Men.
40:55 --> 40:58 They all look like they got something unique about
40:58 --> 41:02 them. You know, you got the, you got the,
41:03 --> 41:05 the head of the, um,
41:07 --> 41:09 uh, um, the FBI,
41:10 --> 41:14 um, Ash Patel, who, who,
41:14 --> 41:19 who looks— yeah, whose eyes are all messed
41:19 --> 41:22 up. He looks like he's always caught in the act.
41:24 --> 41:27 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. Uh,
41:28 --> 41:31 he looks not focused all the time, you know.
41:31 --> 41:35 So then you got this young lady, you got
41:35 --> 41:39 our, our, our health guy, um, Kennedy, who,
41:39 --> 41:43 who's red all the time. And,
41:43 --> 41:46 and they remember he, he was sniffing cocaine off of toilet bowls
41:47 --> 41:49 at one point. Yeah, his words. I know.
41:50 --> 41:54 Yeah. And, and, and, and you can hardly understand
41:54 --> 41:57 him because His voice is so raspy,
41:58 --> 42:01 you know, and I mean, you can't write this stuff,
42:01 --> 42:04 man, right? But there's not one Black person
42:04 --> 42:06 that he could put in any of these positions.
42:08 --> 42:11 We're not good enough to put in any of these positions.
42:12 --> 42:16 So he just playing in our face. That's what
42:17 --> 42:20 he's doing at this point. Um, but You know,
42:21 --> 42:25 at least I'm, I'm happy that they got her
42:25 --> 42:29 out. Well, she stepped down because everybody was pressing
42:29 --> 42:32 her, I'm sure, right? But, you know, but the
42:33 --> 42:37 fact that she even was put in that position to be— that's
42:37 --> 42:41 like, there was a similar situation that happened on Tyler Perry's
42:41 --> 42:44 show The Oval where they put somebody in the press
42:45 --> 42:49 secretary Um, position that had no business being in that position because
42:49 --> 42:52 they didn't have that kind of experience, and the person failed.
42:52 --> 42:56 You know, it was like he was watching that show and he put her in
42:56 --> 43:00 that place because of watching that show. You know,
43:01 --> 43:05 this is a total, total mess that we have
43:05 --> 43:08 in, in DC. Really, it really is.
43:09 --> 43:12 And I know I always worry because we've done so
43:13 --> 43:17 was talking about this administration over the years. I keep
43:17 --> 43:21 saying, I keep waiting, getting a cease and desist
43:22 --> 43:25 thing from them, you know, because— but, you know, you could
43:26 --> 43:29 write, you could talk about this guy every day with the stuff that they do,
43:30 --> 43:31 every moment of the day.
43:33 --> 43:35 So it's really a shame.
43:38 --> 43:40 Uh, did she deserve to be fired? She never should have got the job.
43:41 --> 43:45 Yeah, you're right. And it's like, Dave, you can tell Trump has a type
43:46 --> 43:49 because, you know, that like him hiring
43:49 --> 43:53 these blonde hair women, you know. Yeah,
43:53 --> 43:56 they look like, they look like, uh, what's it, um,
43:57 --> 43:59 uh, Marla Maples. Yeah, remember Marla Maples?
44:00 --> 44:03 Yeah, you know, he always liked blonde hair women anyway.
44:03 --> 44:07 I'm surprised he married the one that he did. Well, she's a darker blonde,
44:07 --> 44:10 but I guess, you know Um,
44:10 --> 44:14 yeah, but unbelievable. But one thing I will
44:14 --> 44:18 say about her though, she stays out of harm's way. She is not supporting
44:18 --> 44:21 any of this mess, you know. She just said, uh,
44:21 --> 44:23 his wife,
44:25 --> 44:28 oh, you know, she, she, she just says, oh no.
44:28 --> 44:31 Melania says, oh no, he's out there by himself, I'm going to stay in the
44:32 --> 44:35 background. I don't even think Melania is Half
44:36 --> 44:37 the time he thinks she's in that building,
44:39 --> 44:43 thinks she's somewhere else. She don't want to be there. Yeah, she might be.
44:46 --> 44:49 Yeah, but anyway, that's, that's a mess right
44:50 --> 44:53 there. Um, that really is. And this just says a lot about
44:53 --> 44:56 the state of our country too, that that's allowed to happen.
44:58 --> 45:02 So, well, were you finished with that?
45:03 --> 45:06 Because this kind of leads into the next story that we're going to talk
45:07 --> 45:10 about. Um, you know, kind of piggybacking off
45:10 --> 45:14 of that story, this, this last story that
45:14 --> 45:18 we're going to talk about here: Trump pardoned her, now Angela Stanton
45:18 --> 45:21 King wants a spot behind the White House podium.
45:22 --> 45:25 Um, um, so the conservative
45:26 --> 45:29 activist is pitching herself for press secretary.
45:30 --> 45:34 Job after the before-mentioned,
45:34 --> 45:38 um, Zakarias' 5-day tenure ended,
45:40 --> 45:43 joining a growing scramble among Trump
45:43 --> 45:45 allies for the high-profile job.
45:47 --> 45:50 So, um, it says here that
46:04 --> 46:08 You still with us, Dave? I think Dave may be having
46:08 --> 46:11 some technical difficulties.
46:15 --> 46:18 Give him a couple seconds, see if he comes back on,
46:20 --> 46:23 or if I need to just wrap up the show for him. One or the
46:23 --> 46:27 other. Okay, it looks like he dropped off, so I
46:27 --> 46:29 know he will be coming back on,
46:33 --> 46:35 so we'll just give it one second for him.
46:50 --> 46:53 All right, I see him coming back on, trying to get back on.
46:54 --> 46:57 Dave, are you with us? Okay,
46:57 --> 46:59 can you hear me? Yeah, we, we can.
47:03 --> 47:06 Okay, all right, okay. I'm not sure what happened just then.
47:07 --> 47:10 I'm so sorry, folks. Okay, um,
47:10 --> 47:14 hold on for a minute. Okay,
47:15 --> 47:18 you can hear me? Yes. Yep, good to go, Leonard.
47:18 --> 47:22 Yes. All right, sorry about that. Okay, I guess the story was— it
47:22 --> 47:26 was, you know, anyway, um, hey, that might be
47:26 --> 47:29 him messing with me right now because of what I said, you know. So,
47:31 --> 47:34 um, but anyway, what I was saying was that, um,
47:34 --> 47:37 is that at the end of the day, what the White House needs is a
47:37 --> 47:41 press secretary who's not afraid Um, to stand on truth,
47:41 --> 47:45 speak the truth, has common sense, a sharp tongue,
47:45 --> 47:49 and zero tolerance, she said. No script,
47:49 --> 47:52 no sugarcoating, no backing down, she continued,
47:52 --> 47:54 before addressing Trump directly.
47:55 --> 47:59 President Trump— now, oh, what I was getting ready to say, this is
47:59 --> 48:01 a Black woman, by the way, for those who don't know.
48:02 --> 48:08 Um, President Trump, appoint me. I promise I'll
48:08 --> 48:13 get the job done, Stanton King wrote, predicting that her appointment would make headlines and
48:13 --> 48:16 that the group chats would be in shambles.
48:18 --> 48:22 Her post came after the previous press
48:22 --> 48:26 secretary left her position on October 16th, just 5 days
48:26 --> 48:30 after beginning the job. The departure followed criticism
48:30 --> 48:34 of Psaki's Um, first White House press
48:35 --> 48:38 briefing and questions about her professional credentials,
48:39 --> 48:44 including her claim to practice law despite not having passed
48:44 --> 48:47 the California bar. Um,
48:49 --> 48:53 so they said that Trump publicly suggested that Sekaria
48:54 --> 48:56 reconsider the position before her departure was confirmed.
48:57 --> 49:01 The president said he has had encouraged her to think about
49:02 --> 49:05 whether the demanding job was right for her. Now,
49:06 --> 49:09 why would you do this after you put her
49:09 --> 49:11 in that position? Does that make sense,
49:12 --> 49:14 Dave? He's trying to what, CYA?
49:17 --> 49:20 Yeah, and you know, he's trying to put it on somebody else. It sounds like
49:21 --> 49:24 to me, right? Because he's not
49:24 --> 49:28 sounding like he's taking credit for it. Um, let's see.
49:30 --> 49:33 Huh? I said never that, you know. Did you say never?
49:33 --> 49:37 Yeah, it says
49:38 --> 49:41 Stan King's pitch also raises questions about the role Black women
49:41 --> 49:46 have played in Trump's inner circle. Um, Marosa Manigault
49:46 --> 49:50 Newman, a Black woman who served as a senior White House aide during
49:50 --> 49:54 Trump's first administration, left the White House in 2017
49:54 --> 49:58 and later became one of the most outspoken— one of his
49:59 --> 50:02 most outspoken critics. In 2018,
50:02 --> 50:06 Trump attacked her publicly on social media amid their
50:06 --> 50:10 escalated feud. Stanton King's public appeal for
50:11 --> 50:14 a role in his administration comes after
50:15 --> 50:18 that backdrop, although there's
50:18 --> 50:21 no indication Trump is considering her for the position.
50:23 --> 50:26 Now let me ask you, I'm gonna stop there. What— let me ask you,
50:26 --> 50:30 would you think as Trump,
50:30 --> 50:34 would this be somebody you would put in position, in that
50:34 --> 50:34 position,
50:37 --> 50:41 because of where we are with the election
50:41 --> 50:44 and everything? Would you put a Black woman in that position knowing you need the
50:44 --> 50:47 votes that you need? To, to control the House
50:48 --> 50:51 and the Senate. So I think the question is,
50:52 --> 50:56 which Black woman would this be? Because I mean, I— whether
50:56 --> 51:00 it's a Republican or Democrat or, you know, who's president, that White
51:00 --> 51:02 House press secretary is a tough role to be in.
51:05 --> 51:09 Yeah, well, this person is saying,
51:09 --> 51:12 I'm, I'm here for it. I think I could do it, you know. I don't
51:13 --> 51:16 know how— I don't know. I don't know if she knows what she's getting herself
51:16 --> 51:20 into. Yeah, I, I don't know. But I mean, you know, Dave,
51:20 --> 51:23 at this point, I think she gotta last longer than 5
51:23 --> 51:27 days, you know what I mean? Like, yeah,
51:27 --> 51:30 well, you know, but of course, but of course, you know,
51:30 --> 51:33 they would, they were, um, uh, um,
51:35 --> 51:39 they would, um, look at her credentials. I mean See,
51:39 --> 51:43 so apparently this, they said her connection
51:43 --> 51:47 to Trump dates back to several years. Um,
51:47 --> 51:51 it says back on February 18th, Trump granted her full presidential
51:52 --> 51:56 pardon for a federal conviction stemming from her role
51:56 --> 51:59 in a car theft ring. Okay.
52:01 --> 52:05 Hey, hey, uh, she has felons and criminals,
52:05 --> 52:07 Dave. Felons and criminals. Yeah, I know. That's, that's why she wants to hang out
52:08 --> 52:12 with him, I guess. I don't know. She had served
52:12 --> 52:16 prison time after being convicted in 2004 on federal
52:16 --> 52:20 conspiracy charges, on federal conspiracy charges, according to
52:20 --> 52:23 Atlanta General Constitution and the Justice
52:24 --> 52:26 Department's published clemency records.
52:28 --> 52:32 Okay, this girl got, you know, now saying, not saying that she hasn't cleaned
52:32 --> 52:36 herself up, but, you know, after receiving the pardons,
52:36 --> 52:40 King entered electoral politics. She ran as
52:40 --> 52:43 a Republican in Georgia's 5th Congressional District in 2020,
52:44 --> 52:48 initially challenging the late civil rights leader John Lewis
52:49 --> 52:52 before Democrat Nikema Williams became the party's
52:53 --> 52:56 nominee following Lewis' death. Williams won the
52:57 --> 53:02 general election. King has since— Stanton
53:02 --> 53:05 King has since continued to work as an author,
53:06 --> 53:09 criminal justice advocate, and conservative
53:09 --> 53:13 political commentator. Her official
53:13 --> 53:17 biography identifies her as the founder
53:17 --> 53:20 of American King Foundation,
53:21 --> 53:25 where she focuses on family reunification
53:26 --> 53:30 and pathways to justice and economic stability.
53:30 --> 53:34 She also appeared on conservative media platforms.
53:34 --> 53:37 Now, does this sound like somebody that we could trust as press secretary?
53:41 --> 53:45 Definitely not. I'm, I'm still, I'm still
53:46 --> 53:46 on this carjacking ring.
53:51 --> 53:53 They must have been high-end cars too, I'm sure, you know.
53:54 --> 54:02 So, but yeah, I mean Uh,
54:02 --> 54:06 I don't know. Well, I don't see Trump— if Trump did put
54:06 --> 54:09 her in that position, it would solely be to make headlines.
54:10 --> 54:13 And but I don't know. I don't, I don't know if
54:14 --> 54:18 I could— I don't know. Maybe she is conformed,
54:19 --> 54:22 you know. But that's that. Like you said, it's a
54:23 --> 54:26 very high-profile job and everybody is going
54:26 --> 54:29 to be at your neck if you do something wrong. Right.
54:30 --> 54:34 So, and of course you would be— he would be so
54:34 --> 54:37 quick to throw her under the bus if he put her in that position,
54:37 --> 54:41 right? So I don't know what
54:42 --> 54:45 people think. Uh, do you guys think this would be a good move to put
54:45 --> 54:50 her in that position, or do you think, um, that he
54:50 --> 54:54 just needs to stay out of it altogether and let somebody else choose the
54:54 --> 54:59 next person? Yeah, hopefully you guys have—
54:59 --> 55:03 you guys, because I think he needs to stay out of it altogether and
55:03 --> 55:07 he's— and put somebody who is definitely qualified in the
55:07 --> 55:11 position. Don't just stick somebody in there because they look a certain
55:11 --> 55:15 way, because obviously he was a— well,
55:15 --> 55:19 you know, you know what, you know what we think, so, you know,
55:19 --> 55:23 we already know, so Um, all right,
55:23 --> 55:26 enough about our president
55:26 --> 55:30 at this moment. All right, well, that brings us to Leonard's favorite part
55:30 --> 55:33 of the show, um, which is, uh,
55:33 --> 55:34 Dave's Corner.
55:36 --> 55:39 And speaking of president,
55:40 --> 55:42 I thought this would be perfect segue into this.
55:44 --> 55:47 Leonard, if you could build the perfect perfect president,
55:47 --> 55:49 like a Build-A-Bear type situation,
55:50 --> 55:53 using characteristics from 4 other presidents.
55:54 --> 55:58 What presidents would you use and what characteristics— what
55:58 --> 56:02 characteristics would you use from them? So what
56:02 --> 56:05 4 presidents would you use to build the
56:06 --> 56:09 perfect president and give a characteristic from each one that
56:10 --> 56:13 you would use to build that person? Oh my goodness. Okay,
56:13 --> 56:16 so I do Obama with his swag.
56:17 --> 56:21 Okay. I would say Bill Clinton with just kind of like his likability,
56:22 --> 56:25 like a— like, and I mean, Obama had it too, but Bill Clinton,
56:25 --> 56:29 his likability. Yeah. Um.
56:39 --> 56:43 You doubt young Leonard is because he only goes back a couple presidents.
56:43 --> 56:47 Maybe, maybe you gotta go history too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe a
56:47 --> 56:51 little bit of humor from Donald Trump because, I mean, Donald Trump is an entertainer
56:51 --> 56:53 and, you know. Okay,
56:54 --> 56:57 um, that was my partner. That wasn't me, by the way. That was my partner.
56:57 --> 57:09 Okay, all right, let you know. Um, and then Who
57:09 --> 57:13 else? Maybe I'll go back with,
57:13 --> 57:16 um, John F. Kennedy, like the likability factor, you know. A lot
57:17 --> 57:20 of people liked him as well, and, you know, he was, he was classy,
57:21 --> 57:24 and, you know, so those would probably be my
57:26 --> 57:30 4. Okay. All right. Um,
57:30 --> 57:33 now for your turn, you can't use any of the ones I said.
57:34 --> 57:37 Well, first of all, all right,
57:38 --> 57:41 because remember, you go back.
57:42 --> 57:45 I, I, I, I don't go back.
57:45 --> 57:48 All right, okay, you know what, I'll be— I, I will do that.
57:48 --> 57:52 I won't use any of the ones you did, even though you use easy ones.
57:52 --> 57:56 You use easy ones though, I ain't gonna lie, you did. But I'm gonna be
57:57 --> 58:00 easy though. Yeah, I'm gonna go with Abraham
58:00 --> 58:04 Lincoln. Okay, fourscore— Mr. Fourscore and Seven Years Ago.
58:05 --> 58:08 Yeah, yeah. The fact— and I'm gonna say
58:09 --> 58:12 because he was concerned about everyone, uh,
58:13 --> 58:16 not just his own people, but he was looking out
58:17 --> 58:20 for everyone during that time. So I think he had an overall,
58:21 --> 58:24 overall concernedness about him. And his
58:25 --> 58:28 stature definitely made him imposing. Okay,
58:30 --> 58:34 uh, let me see. I'm gonna go with— I'm
58:34 --> 58:38 gonna say Ronald Reagan. I'm gonna say for
58:38 --> 58:41 one reason and one reason alone: Reagan didn't play.
58:41 --> 58:44 If he said he was going to do something, you know, you know,
58:45 --> 58:49 especially when it came to the war and,
58:49 --> 58:52 you know, getting into war with other countries
58:53 --> 58:56 or whatever. If Reagan said he was going to bomb you, he was going to
58:57 --> 58:59 bomb you, you know what I mean? Or he wasn't going to allow you to
58:59 --> 59:01 play, to mess with this country.
59:04 --> 59:04 Uh,
59:08 --> 59:11 uh, I would go with Teddy Roosevelt as well.
59:12 --> 59:19 Um, I thought he was a strong leader. I thought he Uh,
59:20 --> 59:23 I thought he was definitely somebody not to mess with too. So I
59:23 --> 59:27 think he— and I thought he was a smart president
59:27 --> 59:31 as well. I mean, you know, not so much book smart, but he just was
59:31 --> 59:35 very calculating in how to do things.
59:37 --> 59:42 My last one would be Jimmy
59:42 --> 59:45 Carter. Uh, Jimmy Carter,
59:46 --> 59:49 uh, he wasn't as well-liked as
59:49 --> 59:52 some of the more recent presidents,
59:53 --> 59:57 but he was respected with what he did,
59:58 --> 01:00:02 um, because he was also somebody that didn't
01:00:02 --> 01:00:06 play and he had a concern for his people.
01:00:07 --> 01:00:11 And he did— not everybody liked the way he went about his business,
01:00:12 --> 01:00:16 but the fact that handled his business.
01:00:16 --> 01:00:19 So that would be my other one. Okay.
01:00:20 --> 01:00:23 Okay. So that's my build president group right there.
01:00:24 --> 01:00:27 I think, I think that would make for a good president as well. Gotcha.
01:00:27 --> 01:00:31 So, all right, you guys,
01:00:32 --> 01:00:35 if you can build your own president, Who would you choose?
01:00:36 --> 01:00:39 Um, Leonard tried to make it hard for me, but I came up with some
01:00:40 --> 01:00:42 other names other than the ones— of course I knew he was going to use
01:00:43 --> 01:00:45 Obama, so, you know, so shouldn't we all?
01:00:46 --> 01:00:51 Yeah, I know we all should, definitely. Even though, you know, when you read online,
01:00:51 --> 01:00:54 you know, some of the comments when they post things about him, are you surprised
01:00:55 --> 01:00:58 by some of the negative comments you see though? Yeah, I'm,
01:00:58 --> 01:01:01 you know, I'm surprised at some of the negative comments considering he has not
01:01:01 --> 01:01:05 been in office over 10 years. And, and they're still blaming him for, uh,
01:01:05 --> 01:01:09 they still blaming him for all kinds of stuff, man. Yet this
01:01:09 --> 01:01:10 guy gets a complete pass.
01:01:13 --> 01:01:17 It's unbelievable. Well, no, they, you know, well, I, I disagree. I think
01:01:17 --> 01:01:19 they're gonna be talking about Trump for a long time too,
01:01:20 --> 01:01:24 because he is— I mean, and I mean, I believe the polls,
01:01:24 --> 01:01:28 a lot of, you know, he may have been the president with one of the
01:01:29 --> 01:01:32 lowest likability ratings in our lifetime,
01:01:33 --> 01:01:37 and, and things haven't got better yet. But he's still in office.
01:01:37 --> 01:01:40 Do you think Obama would be in office if that happened to him?
01:01:41 --> 01:01:44 I don't know. No, I think you know, Leonard.
01:01:45 --> 01:01:48 I think you know. I think there was no way they would let him still
01:01:49 --> 01:01:52 be in office with a, uh, uh, uh, a 37
01:01:53 --> 01:01:57 or 30 rating approval rating. No way.
01:01:58 --> 01:02:02 No way. 60— over 60% saying that
01:02:02 --> 01:02:06 they, they disagree with him or they don't like him or whatever the
01:02:06 --> 01:02:09 case may be. Come on now. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy.
01:02:11 --> 01:02:14 Yeah, that's crazy. So, but anyway, well,
01:02:14 --> 01:02:18 there you have it, folks. Um, that's our show for
01:02:19 --> 01:02:22 the day. Um, we want to thank you for taking the time
01:02:23 --> 01:02:26 to listen As usual, and we really appreciate you.
01:02:27 --> 01:02:31 And, uh, we look forward to talking to you again next
01:02:35 --> 01:02:36 Say good night, Leonard.
01:02:42 --> 01:02:45 Say good night, Leonard. Tune in next week, ladies and gentlemen,
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01:02:49 --> 01:02:50 and Lynn.